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[06:53] <dholbach> good morning
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[10:02] <sunweaver> stgraber: xnox: hi!
[10:02] <sunweaver> I would love to become a MOTU to support the Ubuntu MATE Remix people with possible uploads.
[10:02] <sunweaver> I am the original maintainer of the MATE desktop in Debian (and a DD).
[10:04]  * sunweaver has read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted, so I getting started with all the technical stuff that is non-Debian.
[10:11] <mitya57> sunweaver: If you are a DD, you can use a simplified procedure to get upload rights for a set of packages
[10:11] <mitya57> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess#Debian_Developers_applying_for_Per-Package_upload_rights
[10:14] <sunweaver> mitya57: ah, right!
[10:14] <sunweaver> will check that out...
[10:15]  * sunweaver is finding out what "PPU" stands for...
[10:16] <geser> Per-Package Upload (rights)
[10:18] <geser> sunweaver: it's similar to the DM status in Debian (who can upload a certain set of packages)
[10:19] <sunweaver> geser: thanks!
[10:19] <Laney> This process only applies after you've been approved by the DMB at an IRC meeting once, mind you
[10:19] <Laney> The simplified DD thing
[10:26] <sunweaver> Laney: is there a regular schedule for such meetings?
[10:27] <sunweaver> I guess I need to mail to devel-permissions@lists.ubuntu.com to get that started, right?
[10:29] <Laney> sunweaver: Scroll up on the ApplicationProcess page, the procedure is there
[10:31] <Laney> Noskcaj: FYI, I edited the DMB agenda to put you on 2014-11-03 as that's 1900
[10:34] <sunweaver> Laney: found it.
[10:34] <sunweaver> Working through the task list...
[10:35] <Laney> Create wiki page, (gather sponsors), mail devel-permissions, edit Agenda, turn up to meeting
[12:12] <sunweaver> mitya57: about the endorsements...
[12:12] <sunweaver> here this wiki page now... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MikeGabriel/DeveloperApplication
[12:13] <sunweaver> but, I am not sure if I know that many Ubuntu developers...
[12:13] <sunweaver> I know Debian developers that know my work in Debian, but in Ubuntu... well...
[12:13] <sunweaver> is it ok, to ask for endorsment via ubuntu-motu ML?
[12:13] <sunweaver> (and here?)
[12:48] <geser> have any Ubuntu devs sponsored some uploads for you yet?
[12:51] <sunweaver> geser: no. I am a DD and maintain over 100 packages.
[12:52] <sunweaver> the Ubuntu MATE team uses "my" packages for providing MATE to Ubuntu.
[12:52] <sunweaver> with siretart I have worked on creating the X2Go packages on http://launchpad.net/~x2go
[12:53] <sunweaver> so, there is packaging experience (quite a good bit, I guess), but no concrete Ubuntu upload.
[12:54] <sunweaver> I package CDBS and DH alike, work with several teams in Debian (pkg-javascript, Debian Edu, pkg-mate-team, pkg-perl, DPMT, PAPT, etc.)
[12:54] <geser> I'd suggest to ask your sponsors about endorsements but without sponsors it could get a little bit difficult
[12:55] <sunweaver> hehehe...
[12:55] <sunweaver> tricky, ain't it... ;-)
[12:56] <sunweaver> I pinged several people on other IRC channels and via mail, so let's see... But nobody sponsored uploads, so far.
[12:56] <sunweaver> I use Debian unstable to work for Ubuntu...
[12:57] <geser> the DMB probably will ask you about the Ubuntu specifics like timeframes (like till when it's possible to upload new upstream release or when not upload during freezes (and how you can find out if your packages are affected), etc)
[12:58] <sunweaver> yeah, right.
[12:58] <sunweaver> I have to check those documents, still.
[12:59] <sunweaver> But that is release policy related, not related to the packages themselves.
[13:00] <geser> no, the DMB usually looks for both: release policy knowledge (the basics) and packaging skills (being a DD helps skip this)
[13:00] <sunweaver> is there a document that tackles just that? Debian Developer -> Ubuntu Developer? Umbloated without the "beginners" stuff.
[13:00] <sunweaver> geser: understood.
[13:01] <sunweaver> The basics I guess I know from using and working with Ubuntu and Launchpad, but I will better check the details before someone asking such questions.
[13:02] <geser> perhaps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/ForDebianDevelopers has also some helpful info for you
[13:03] <sunweaver> hey, that one looks good.
[13:03] <sunweaver> taking it with me for the coffee break!
[13:04] <sunweaver> bbl...
[13:18] <rbasak> sunweaver: it might be worth following each link in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[13:19] <rbasak> sunweaver: as well as the Ubuntu release schedule, there's also the general policy covering what we do and don't want to put into the Ubuntu delta, pushing changes back to Debian and/or upstream, what to do when syncing and merging packages, etc.
[13:19] <rbasak> I don't think the documentation is very good unfortunately.
[13:41] <sunweaver> rbasak: awesome. Thanks!
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