[06:23] <elfy> good morning jibel :)
[12:18] <elfy> so RC is built today balloons
[12:18] <elfy> oh good lord
[12:18] <elfy> was 5 minutes ago
[12:19] <elfy> now Final is ready for testing ...
[12:20] <elfy> blaming stgraber and Riddell for confusing me with that :D
[13:34] <balloons> woot, builds are going to be on time
[13:59] <senan> balloons, hi .. finally it worked :)
[14:06] <balloons> senan, I had trouble running it without that package, the konsole-plugin
[14:07] <senan> balloons, After adding the ppa, installed everything you mentioned..all is well :)
[14:07] <balloons> senan, hehe, great
[14:07] <senan> balloons, so whats next ?
[14:08] <senan> balloons, how do I enter commands in that >
[14:08] <senan> ?
[14:09] <balloons> senan, so the next step is to update the tests to support the UI change. Let me find the MP
[14:10] <senan> balloons, I'll be back after dinner :)
[14:10] <balloons> senan, https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-terminal-app/uri-and-tabs/+merge/237353
[14:11] <balloons> senan, so in trunk the tests work and pass of course, but that MP changes the UI layout. The developer could use some help in changing the tests as well
[15:57] <elfy> balloons: I got completely confused by it all - I now assume your post to mean "Once the pre-testing RC/Final phase is over - the end of the week/weekend will see it released"
[15:57] <balloons> elfy, now I'm confused :)
[15:57] <elfy> We're just about a week away from the first RC images for utopic hitting the image tracker.
[15:57] <elfy> you said that
[15:58] <elfy> no we're not - we're not even getting one - the first final image was there today :)
[15:58] <elfy> anyway - not important
[18:18] <dkessel> balloons, elfy: do you guys want to set some "importances" for the iso tracker bugs? about 50% of the bugs have no importance set...
[18:19] <wxl> dkessel: waiting for my application to bugcontrol to be approved and then i'd be happy to help :)
[18:19] <elfy> 99% of them would be non-Xubuntu I would guess and nothing to do with me
[18:21] <wxl> oh so xubuntu is only 1% flawed, huh? ;)
[18:21] <elfy> no - not at all - only about 5 people have reported via tracker :(
[18:21] <wxl> yeah well i know that feeling :(
[18:21] <elfy> so - 98% aren't X/L/ubuntu :p
[18:22] <wxl> heheheh
[18:22] <wxl> althugh kylin appears to produce about 90% of them, 80% of which aren't in any sort of western language at all :)
[18:22] <elfy> lol
[18:23] <elfy> dkessel: other than vbox issues - afaik only one Xubuntu iso bug - and that's appearances only
[18:24] <elfy> though I am sure that on the 24th loads of people will find loads of bugs - too late by months
[18:24] <wxl> dkessel: you might want to send something out to the bugsquad if you really want something to happen generally
[18:25] <balloons> dkessel, bugs for the tool or bugs from testing?
[18:26] <dkessel> balloons: bugs for the tool. I forgot the link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bugs?orderby=importance
[18:28] <balloons> dkessel, in that case yes indeed there is importance. knome elfy , can you link the the pad you made?
[18:28]  * balloons looks for it
[18:32]  * elfy lost that
[18:33] <elfy> but frankly they should all be high imo
[18:33] <wxl> anything that negatively impacts our ability to do testing should be high
[18:34] <wxl> however, better reporting tools, for the sake of being honest, i'd call medium
[18:35] <elfy> balloons: found it :) http://pad.ubuntu.com/trackers
[18:35] <balloons> dkessel, there you are ^^
[18:37] <elfy> wxl: the thing is I would have guessed (and guess it is) that fixing one will make the rest a bit simpler
[18:41] <elfy> dkessel: and I can't set importance by the way - not important enough for that :)
[18:41] <dkessel> oh ok
[18:42] <elfy> bugsquad I guess - not getting involved in that
[18:44] <wxl> bugcontrol
[18:44] <wxl> bugsquad can't set importance
[18:44] <dkessel> If I were to start on working on any of this in my "qa tracker hacking week", then I would order bugs by importance and then... add a favicon to the page? ;)
[18:44] <wxl> it's the little subteam of bugsquad that can
[18:44] <wxl> ooh qa tracker hacking week
[18:44] <wxl> i likes the sound of that!!!
[18:45] <gQuigs> heh.. I just made it into bug-control..  most of the undecided look like medium or low to me..    are their any that you know are high?
[18:45] <elfy> wxl: that then - just replace control and squad - sentiment will remain the same
[18:45] <wxl> elfy: :)
[18:46] <elfy> gQuigs: the bugs we're talking about on the tracker? they might look medium to low to you - try wanting to get information out daily and you'll soon see they're all high ;)
[18:48] <dkessel> elfy: so you would want bug 1126449 to have high importance? maybe that helps gQuigs
[18:49] <elfy> oh good lord - that's so much higher than high it's untrue ...
[18:49] <elfy> it's got so bad now I get a script is unresponsive warning with it
[18:50] <dkessel> lol
[18:50] <elfy> I'd laugh - but I use that function :(
[18:51] <gQuigs> elfy: mention that in the bug!  :)
[18:52] <gQuigs> elfy: I'm not 100% sure what report this is referring to....
[18:52] <elfy> gQuigs: go here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/315/builds
[18:53] <elfy> just above the products in the main part of the page - not the side
[18:53] <elfy> look for See removed and superseded builds - hit that - then I'll see you in a while ;)
[18:54] <elfy> and frankly these issues aren't new - everyone involved in here with it knows what's wrong and needs sorting
[18:56] <gQuigs> elfy: oh, ok..  I'll let you too it then.. just noticed that the bug isn't actionable from someone who doesn't know that already...
[18:57] <gQuigs> heh.. pretty bad.. but did load in 1 minute for me
[18:57]  * gQuigs wish he was used to webapps being faster than that generally
[18:57] <elfy> gQuigs: I don't mean to sound despondent about these things - it's just that I am ;)
[18:59] <balloons> dkessel, you are a captive audience, and I would agree with elfy. The historical results is a big one, probably the biggest. The next has to do with the UI layout. knome actually worked on a really nice mockup with me and other a bit ago. It would be nice to have it implemented as a longer term thing
[19:01] <balloons> dkessel,
[19:01] <elfy> I'd have thought that the UI layout would be good if we could get bugs listed instead of icons at the same time
[19:02] <balloons> check it out: http://imgur.com/PT7horN
[19:02] <balloons> elfy, did you ever see this ^^?
[19:03] <dkessel> balloons: excellent - this looks much more usable then the current UI
[19:05] <elfy> balloons: no - but I rather like that :)
[19:06] <balloons> dkessel, if you pm me your email I'll send you along a thread with some more info
[19:06] <elfy> make the bugs draggable to the fail/pass dialogues and I'd be a lot happier than I am atm :)
[19:07] <balloons> elfy, I don't know why it's broken.. it works on my 'test' site
[19:07] <elfy> balloons: and I suppose that making the trackers usable for those reporting probably trumps reporting for the few
[19:08] <elfy> so - exospehere for UI importance, thermosphere for reporting - then merely high for the remainder :p
[19:09] <balloons> elfy, I would say historical reporting is a big one.. but yes, changing the UI layout is big. Those two I suspect are the big ones to get right first
[19:09] <elfy> yea - I would think the remainder would then logically suggest importance after those 2
[19:10] <elfy> I would stand on wxl's side of the fence on gathering information as easily as possible for QA teams/leads etc
[19:16] <alesage> charles, elopio asking if the transfer indicator should be visible if there's no transfer in progress
[19:16] <charles> alesage, the answer is no
[19:16] <charles> alesage, this was a recent change in design & code
[19:16] <charles> for a long time it was visible regardless of transfer status
[19:17] <alesage> charles super, similar to desktop in that way
[19:17] <charles> alesage, https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-transfer/+bug/1377275
[19:17] <alesage> charles thanks; elopio ^^
[19:17] <elopio> thanks
[20:41] <knome> balloons, dkessel: oi
[20:41] <elfy> evening knome
[20:42] <knome> hey elfy :)
[20:59] <balloons> knome, howdy
[21:00] <knome> got your email, and sure