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afmgah... that was a fail.. back to google01:07
afmRepository not found on phablet.ubuntu.com01:16
afmThis may likely be an unsupported build target01:16
afmDefault revision phablet-trusty not found in android_device_oneplus_bacon. Bailing.01:16
afmobviously! :|01:16
afms'why I'm trying to build it!01:16
pngo_what is a password for phablet?01:32
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afmThe images have a pre-configured user account called phablet, with the account password also set to phablet01:35
afmreally... 2 second google....01:35
popeynot any more01:35
popeythe password for phablet is whatever you set the pin/passphrase to01:36
pngo_popey: thank you I just realized that.01:36
afmmore awesome documentation01:36
popeyafm: which device you hacking on?01:37
afmone plus one01:37
popeyoh nice!01:37
popeyI have a friend who won one of those in a competition at XDA DevCon a few weeks back01:38
popeywas trying to convince him to attempt a port ☻01:38
afmi'd love to make it work.. i'm a sysadmin.. but the docs are terrible01:39
afmi can get invites if anyone's looking01:40
popeyafm: yeah, docs need love01:42
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afmhappy to update if i can get it working....01:43
popeythat would be awesome01:43
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pngo_popey: I'n trying to ssh from my computer to the phone, but no luck. It works fine from phone to computer. What am I missing?01:49
popeyssh not running on phone by default01:49
afmiptables?01:50
popeyI use "phablet-shell" to connect to my device01:50
afmnetstat -an | grep 22 on the fone?01:50
pngo_well, I started ssh sudo service ssh start. looks like it works.01:50
popeyi dont think we have iptables enabled01:50
pngo_oh. ok.01:50
afmssh troubleshooting....01:57
afmis it running and listening?01:57
afmroot@myth:~# service ssh status01:57
afmssh start/running, process 83901:57
afmroot@myth:~# netstat -an | grep 22 | grep \*01:57
afmtcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN01:57
afmany firewall/iptables blocking?01:57
afmiptables -L01:57
afmare you on the same subnet as the fone?02:00
pngo_yes02:01
pngo_like I said it works fine from phone to computer.02:02
afmunfamiliar with phablet-*.. if it's running/listening try -vvv02:03
afmdoes the phablet-* use keys?  have you transferred yer pub key?02:04
afmphone to computer has zero to do with the daemon on the phone02:07
pngo_phablet-shell command is not recognized here.02:07
pngo_but i'm using debian not ubuntu02:08
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afmis phablet-shell actual ssh or adb?02:09
pngo_i do not know02:12
pngo_i think is same as adb shell.02:13
afmssh -vvv user@$phone_addy02:13
afmadb != ssh02:13
afmssh to the thing! no need to use phablet tools....02:15
afmcould use some porting help... anyone familiar?02:26
afm100% opensource phone02:27
popeyafm: bit late for most02:30
afmi'm EST.... where ya'll from?02:33
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popeyafm: all over, its most active here in EU/US working day, but everyone is a bit madly busy at the moment02:39
afmunderstood.. i'ma member of the group... hopeful release for bug fixes tomorrow i think i saw02:40
justCarakaso/ good morning evening whatever it is at your place all06:21
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dholbachgood morning06:53
mardytvoss: hi! Does the platform API provide some kind of event loop?07:17
tvossmardy, nope07:17
mardytvoss: OK. I eventually want to (actually, I've been asked to :-) ) make a C++ version (no Qt!) of the Online Accounts APIs, which have many asynchronous methods and rely on an event loop07:18
mardytvoss: if the platform API provided an event loop, I could use the QAbstractAventDispatcher class to hook into that, and just wrap the Qt APIs07:19
tvossmardy, sure, but I don't think we want to expose an event loop from the platform api. It's a very opinionated choice to force an event loop and the papi is too low-level to take such a decision, due to its effect on so many parts of the stack07:20
mardytvoss: that's true07:21
larsutvoss: sorry, but saying an event loop is opinionated is pretty far out there. It's about the most main-stream thing you can do07:28
larsu(not saying you should supply one in papi)07:29
tvosslarsu, I'm not questioning that it is mainstream, I'm just saying there is a place for it in the stack, and that papi is not the right place to introduce one07:31
pittiWellark: system identifier> that's whoopsie, not apport; I think it computes something based on MAC address or maybe IMEI; better ask ev or bdmurray07:35
larsutvoss: I understood the "opinionated" part as questioning it. Again, I'm not saying you should supply one, that statement just bothered me :P07:36
anpok_hm for everything that needs an event loop you can always just expose and fd.. and let the end user pick the event loop07:39
larsuanpok_: what about libraries?07:41
anpok_larsu: i meant the library interface could be: here is my fd - let me process things when necessary..07:42
larsuanpok_: oh right. That's a pretty clumsy api though, especially when you need to pass through fds from other libraries you're using07:50
seb128mpt, hey, not sure but you might want to assign the ubuntu-ux part of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1378333 to yourself07:50
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1378333 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Preinstalled apps removed on image upgrade without notice" [Wishlist,Incomplete]07:50
larsuanpok_: didn't want to start a discussion though, sorry :)07:50
mptseb128, wow, that bug summary can be read in two different ways, and both of them are valid bugs07:52
mpt(1) Preinstalled apps are removed without notice when you upgrade07:52
mpt(2) If you uninstall a preinstalled app it’s still upgraded when you upgrade the system07:52
anpok_larsu: np07:53
seb128mpt, there are several bugs open about the handling of preinstalled apps, like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/126525007:53
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1265250 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Storage shows same app multiple times (pre-installed and update from click store)" [Low,Confirmed]07:53
seb128mpt, or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/131438207:54
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1314382 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Updates shown for pre-installed apps which have been uninstalled" [Low,Confirmed]07:54
seb128mpt, that second one is sort of your (2)07:54
mptThat looks like it, yes07:54
mptI was just impressed by the grammar for a moment :-)07:55
seb128hehe07:56
mptcharles, did you report a bug about the battery icon being clipped? <http://i.imgur.com/9vK1P6p.jpg>08:01
mptcharles, nm, reported it as bug 138138708:06
ubot5bug 1381387 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Battery icon is clipped in low-battery notification" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138138708:06
larsumpt: this is probably a bug for MacSlow. Notifications are sent from the system to unity8, which renders them08:25
MacSlowmpt, I know about that clipping issue... but I've not been able to sort that out yet... first gusses point towards a SVG-renderer-bug in Qt...08:27
MacSlowmpt, but the volume-warning/sync.-notification keep me busy still so I don't yet know when I can really address this.08:28
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Information Overload Day! :-D08:49
ogra_thats too much information !08:49
evWellark, pitti: yes, there's a dbus service under the whoopsie umbrella that provides a system identifier. It creates a sha512 hash of the IMEI, system UUID, or MAC address. The aim is to have something stable across reinstalls.08:52
oSoMoNrpadovani, hey, I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/1351167/+merge/23815508:55
rpadovanioSoMoN, thanks! No, bumping is not required, I did it without thinking because I do the same thing in the core apps. I revert to 2.0 asap. And thanks for the suggestion about debian/webbrowser-app.install - I know nothing about packaging08:57
oSoMoNrpadovani, cool, let me know when it’s ready to test again (and if you need help with packaging changes)08:59
vitimitiHi09:07
rpadovanioSoMoN, tbh, new components use QtQuick 2.3 - I dunno if I can downgrade it, I need to do some tests, I'll update you this night09:11
oSoMoNrpadovani, ok, if the new components use 2.3 for a good reason that’s absolutely fine, but then let’s keep this confined to the upstreamcomponents/ directory for now09:15
rpadovanioSoMoN, ok, thanks :-)09:15
rpadovanioSoMoN, sorry to bother you again, you said the line to add in debian/webbrowser-app.install is usr/share/webbrowser-app/upstreamcomponents/. Should't be usr/share/webbrowser-app/webbrowser/upstreamcomponents ?09:32
oSoMoNrpadovani, you’re right, but in fact I think the problem is not in debian/webbrowser-app.install09:34
oSoMoNrpadovani, but rather in the cmake install rules09:34
oSoMoNlet me check09:34
oSoMoNrpadovani, yes, you will need to add a "install(DIRECTORY upstreamcomponents …" directive to src/app/webbrowser/CMakeLists.txt, around line 5009:35
oSoMoNrpadovani, and with that you shouldn’t have to change anything in the packagingn09:36
oSoMoN-n09:36
rpadovanioSoMoN, ok, gotcha. Do I have to create a CMakeLists.txt also in the upstreacomponents directory?09:36
rpadovanioSoMoN, also, I downgraded QtQuick also in upstream components. They work well, so also trusty users can use them :-)09:37
oSoMoNrpadovani, no, no need for an extra CMakeLists.txt there09:40
oSoMoNcool09:40
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dpmpitti, so we should have a touch full langpack export in about 30 mins. I'll send an e-mail to confirm once the export has finished10:21
pittidpm: thanks; mail is better today indeed10:31
Wellarktvoss: I will review the MP but I need to branch it properly to verify couple of things10:32
Wellarkwould be _so_ nice if LP offered full file diffs10:33
tvossWellark, sorry, what?10:33
tvossah okay10:33
rpadovanioSoMoN, I pushed modifications we talked about, hope they are ok!10:35
oSoMoNrpadovani, thanks, I’ll take a look at them shortl10:36
oSoMoNshortly10:36
tvosspopey, ping with https://bugs.launchpad.net/osmtouch/+bug/138146310:48
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381463 in OSMTouch "PositionSource.update() cannot be used synchronously" [Undecided,New]10:48
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oSoMoNrpadovani, I commented again on https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/1351167/+merge/23815511:57
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Wellarktvoss: should I top-approve, or what's the process with qtubuntu-media? https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/qtubuntu-media/fix-races-for-access-to-destroyed-controls/+merge/23840412:03
tvossWellark, did you test it?12:04
tvossWellark, please give your vote12:04
Wellarktvoss: just code review12:04
tvossWellark, ta can be done later12:04
tvossWellark, ack12:04
Wellarktvoss: we will get the silo soon enough12:07
Wellarkso if we don't see those unity8 crashes on boot then it's fixed :)12:07
tvossWellark, the silo is ready12:09
tvossWellark, silo 1012:09
WellarkSaviq: ok, tell me how it went :)12:09
Wellarktvoss: oh, it's not part of the unity8 silo?12:10
Wellarkok, I saw the crash happening a lot on rtm-proposed on krillin12:10
WellarkI can flash that and try out the silo12:10
Wellarktvoss: anything else to test?12:10
WellarkI saw you attached another bug to that MP as well12:11
mterrytedg, is greeter profile switching for rtm or ota?12:11
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Chipacaseb128: could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/fix-notification-hub-blacklist-description/+merge/238417 when you get a chance? it's related to bug 138066212:15
ubot5bug 1380662 in ubuntu-push (Ubuntu) "legacy apps re-set their notification status on reboot" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138066212:15
seb128Chipaca, hey, ok12:16
Chipacaseb128: thanks12:16
seb128yw!12:16
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Saviqmterry, ota12:40
mterrySaviq, ok12:40
mterrymzanetti, are you busy today?  I'd appreciate a review of the dbus-race-fix branch today, because I'm off the next couple days and it'd be hard to fix it up in response12:40
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mzanettimterry: ok, will do that today12:42
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rpadovanithanks oSoMoN, I totally agree with you, I'll fix them12:53
seb128Chipaca, that description seems still slightly wrong13:13
seb128Chipaca, the appid seems to be the basename and not the filename from the bug exampls13:14
seb128Chipaca, like it's "ciborium", not "ciborium.desktop"13:14
Chipacaseb128: yeah, i think i've had that conversation13:14
dpmElleo, thanks a lot for the keyboard MP review!13:14
Chipacabasename isn't the word you're thinking about either13:14
Chipacabasename is without the path13:14
Chipacamaybe i should just say "without the .desktop extension"13:15
Chipaca?13:15
Chipacayeah, i'll do that13:15
Chipacaseb128: coming up13:15
seb128Chipaca, that works too, but you don't have the path in the key, so I think basename would work13:16
seb128Chipaca, thanks13:16
Chipacaseb128: done13:17
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seb128Chipaca, approved13:18
Chipacahuzzah13:18
seb128Chipaca, does that need to land now you think, or fine to queue?13:18
Chipacaseb128: fine to queue13:18
seb128what I think as well13:18
seb128thanks13:19
Chipacaseb128: was planning on putting it into a silo together with the push branch next weekish13:19
Elleodpm: no problem, thanks for working on another layout :)13:19
seb128Chipaca, k, feel free to do that13:19
dpmit turned out to be easier than I thought13:22
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jgdxmterry, ping14:52
mterryjgdx, hello14:52
jgdxmterry, hey, I'm trying to reuse your HERE stuff from the wizard (System.hereEnabled)14:53
jgdxmterry, it seems that sometimes it's impossible to set System.hereEnabled to true. You know what happens?14:53
mterryjgdx, no I haven't happened to notice that14:54
ralsina_dpm: I am happy to answer any questions about how thee client side of push works, just email/ask here :-)14:54
jgdxmterry, just curious, why aren't you using the accountservice interface?14:55
dpmralsina_, excellent, thanks! That was a really productive meeting, btw14:57
mterryjgdx, um I probably could have wrapped around it instead yes...  That interface is sync, while I try to do async where possible.  But that's not a huge deal15:00
mterryjgdx, but I'm surprised that setting doesn't work well -- in system.cpp, we simply proxy that to dbus15:02
mterryjgdx, setHereEnabled that is15:02
jgdxmterry, me too. It might be my usage, (though it's System.enableHere = false/true) but it could also be the binding?15:04
mterryjgdx, have you debugged what happens when it fails?  Is the dbus call made but fails?15:04
jgdxmterry, I have not.15:08
jgdxmterry, maybe you could take a look at it?15:17
jgdxmterry, https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/security-allow-acceptance-of-here-terms-fixes-1375322/+merge/23841915:17
mterryjgdx, sure I can play with it and try to reproduce today15:17
mterryjgdx, I'm off tomorrow and Friday though so will have to brain dump any findings15:18
jgdxmterry, awesome. Thanks.15:18
mterryjgdx, I'll look after lunch15:20
jgdxseb128, could you take a look as well? https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/security-allow-acceptance-of-here-terms-fixes-1375322/+merge/23841915:21
seb128jgdx, k, adding to my list15:22
jgdxseb128, can you put that one and the flight mode bug in a silo?15:24
seb128jgdx, not sure what are the rules atm, they only want rtm blocker in this week15:24
seb128I don't even understand what bugs are on that list15:24
seb128but sure, I can put things in a silo15:24
seb128not sure we can land the silo though15:24
jgdxseb128, not sure, but both branches are trying to fix bug 1375322 and bug 137695715:26
ubot5bug 1375322 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[Security & Privacy/Wizard] Should be possible to accept HERE T&Cs after running through the wizard " [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137532215:26
ubot5bug 1376957 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Cellular Data Prefs not preserved if FlightMode enabled, then disabled" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137695715:26
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seb128tedg, is the silo 013 something you are looking at landing today? it contains u-s-s so it blocks other landing (if I don't override the conflict and decide to outdate yours, which I can do if you don't plane to get that moving/landed since we have important fixes queued)16:04
seb128jgdx, just as a fyi ^16:05
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LaneySomething borked with utopic-proposed? Stuck at google logo after flashing16:31
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jgdxseb128, thansk17:51
jgdxmterry, got a look at it?17:52
mterryjgdx, about to start17:53
jgdxmterry, awesome. Thanks. I'll be biab17:53
tedgseb128, No, it doesn't have super critical bugs, so blocked :-(18:17
gcolluraogra_, ping18:35
ogra_hey18:35
gcolluraogra_, could you please take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~gcollura/phablet-tools/click-buddy/+merge/23695018:36
gcollurathanks :)18:36
gcollura(next time I'll rewrite click-buddy in python)18:36
ogra_heh18:36
ogra_gcollura, not today or tomorrow though ... we're all super busy getting an rtm milestone ready18:37
gcolluraogra_, don't worry :)18:38
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mterryjgdx, I can't reproduce the problem19:02
mterryjgdx, how often does it not work for you?19:02
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nhainesI was pleased to find that the Desktop-Next ISO ran on my laptop today.  So that's a change from the past few weeks.  :)  Wasn't terribly useful and Unity froze, but wasn't unpleasant.  I suspect with a touch screen it would have been bearable.20:23
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nhainesBut it's nice to see that it's working, because that gives a solid platform for desktop development.  :)20:23
ogra_oh, seeing you say that ....20:24
ogra_cyphermox, i had some issue on my laptop today with desktop-next installed ... urfkill was rather unhappy20:24
dobeynhaines: i suspect it'll need a lot more than just a touchscreen to make it usable20:33
dobeylike actual windows :)20:34
nhainesdobey: considering almost no work has been done to make it usable, I think it's looking pretty good.  :)20:38
cyphermoxogra_: explain?20:40
ogra_cyphermox, urfkill gets installed on laptop/desktop alongside with ubuntu-desktop-next (touch)20:40
cyphermoxyeah, but how do you mean unhappy?20:40
cyphermoxdid you file a bug?20:41
ogra_cyphermox, 100% CPU usage20:42
ogra_cyphermox, not yet ... the above reminded me of it :)20:42
derelinguoHi, porting question. Is there a clean way to exclude modules that have duplicate definitions? Also do you keep the vendor one or the AOSP version?21:34
taieboti keep getting my Sim locked i am on rtm/14.09 r.89 i do not really understand why  i manage to call one person but now it says it is blocked.21:35
vitimitiHi21:36
taiebotthere must be a bug there because after a reboot it s back to normal.21:42
jgdxmterry, that's great21:53
jgdxI haven't tried the newest debs.21:54
mterryjgdx, well sorta great  :)22:09
mterryjgdx, I always feel dread when I can't reproduce22:09
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cm-tHi, does this bug is already landing in rtm or will it be on the maybe tonight image ?  bug #136200822:35
ubot5bug 1362008 in ofono (Ubuntu RTM) "Cannot send MMS from "Free Mobile" as no context is provisioned" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136200822:35
cm-tDamnit, I was making showcase for month saying only thing missing to be fully a smartphone is the support of mms, and then I learn it was woring, only my APN not well set.22:36
* vitimiti Bye22:51
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