| brousch | mrgoodcat : Where you at? | 00:22 |
|---|---|---|
| mrgoodcat | i'm the kid that said good job | 00:25 |
| mrgoodcat | by the livestream camera | 00:25 |
| mrgoodcat | pink collared shirt | 00:25 |
| brousch | cmaloney: Stinker. Blocking Facebook. | 00:28 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: ssh -D 8080 user@host | 00:30 |
| mrgoodcat | SOCKS proxy | 00:30 |
| mrgoodcat | be happy | 00:30 |
| mrgoodcat | :) | 00:30 |
| brousch | I'm being oppressed! | 00:31 |
| cmaloney | brousch: THat's me, the Facebook blocker. :) | 03:30 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: but really, why is facebook blocked at mug meetings? | 03:31 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: It's because I keep forgetting to remove an old rule that I had on my old router | 03:34 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 03:36 |
| tony-smlr | cmaloney: I figured out the civicrm plugin. | 03:44 |
| cmaloney | tony-smlr: Awesome. :) | 03:45 |
| tony-smlr | I updated the meeting with the youtube link and the github for the presentation | 03:45 |
| cmaloney | tony-smlr: Thank you. | 03:45 |
| tony-smlr | Your welcome | 03:45 |
| brousch | My phone screwed me last night. Took me up M-5 to 75 to 69 instead of right to I-96 | 12:16 |
| brousch | Added 20mins to my drive | 12:16 |
| cmaloney | brousch: Ugh | 12:45 |
| cmaloney | Glad you got home safely though | 12:45 |
| brousch | Yeah, roads were empty | 12:46 |
| cmaloney | We're really thrilled you were able to make it out to MUG last night | 12:46 |
| brousch | I had fun | 12:46 |
| cmaloney | Thank you for making the trek and for doing an weseome presentation | 12:46 |
| brousch | Let me know if you have or hear any criticism. I'll probably give this talk 2-3 more times | 12:47 |
| cmaloney | So far I haven't heard anything | 12:49 |
| cmaloney | but positive | 12:49 |
| brousch | I know I need to sort the video stuff out better | 12:56 |
| brousch | Maybe upgrade to a B+ so everything runs faster | 12:56 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I'm not sure if the B+ has the faster CPu or not | 12:57 |
| brousch | Hm, guess not | 12:58 |
| brousch | http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/model-b-plus/ | 12:58 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/qPvNaA - Model B+ | Raspberry Pi | 12:58 |
| cmaloney | http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/22394/whats-the-difference-between-the-model-b-and-b | 12:58 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/4PAx6i - hardware - What's the difference between the Model B and B+? - Raspberry Pi Stack Exchange | 12:58 |
| brousch | Sounds like the power might be more consistent | 13:00 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't it see mentioned on that page but the audio now has a dedicated low-noise PSU so you don't have to worry about getting electrical noise in the audio like you did before. Makes it much better for HTPC setups | 13:05 |
| cmaloney | I think it's briefly mentioned in the PSU upgrade. | 13:24 |
| brousch | From my drive to tha D yesterday https://www.dropbox.com/s/l220mwbfrtna2px/2014-10-14%2017.18.30.jpg?dl=0 | 13:24 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/ExCfoQ - Dropbox - 2014-10-14 17.18.30.jpg | 13:24 |
| mrgoodcat | hard to see in the picture but it looks pretty full | 13:25 |
| brousch | Yeah, I couldn't get a good pic due to driving | 13:25 |
| brousch | Double rainbow several times | 13:25 |
| cmaloney | Nice! | 13:25 |
| cmaloney | See, they were showing you the way to bliss. ;) | 13:26 |
| brousch | They stopped before Lansing | 13:27 |
| mrgoodcat | the pinboard guy got all angry https://blog.pinboard.in/2014/10/holy_war_on_sites_that_demand_pinboard_passwords/ | 13:31 |
| mrgoodcat | wtf bookiebot where are you | 13:31 |
| mrgoodcat | lxml crashed on that site for some reason... | 13:32 |
| jrwren_ | brousch: nice thing about i69 is you can go 80-90mph and won't see a cop. on i96, trucks make that impossible. | 14:00 |
| brousch | But if I go 80 I drop to 42MPG | 14:09 |
| brousch | Barbaric | 14:09 |
| mrgoodcat | if i go 80 i drop to 12MPG | 14:09 |
| mrgoodcat | from like 16 at 70 | 14:10 |
| akelling | Somebody has a big old truck | 14:10 |
| mrgoodcat | 2004 suburban | 14:13 |
| rick_h_ | ccccccbgjgvcbevdjdjvnlbjchkkutkbcdiilbrtfkuc | 14:18 |
| mrgoodcat | this is not your yubikey field | 14:19 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_ | 14:19 |
| mrgoodcat | crap. ignore that dumb tab complete | 14:19 |
| akelling | lol | 14:20 |
| akelling | Those Suburban's are great. Best body style they ever had IMO. | 14:21 |
| mrgoodcat | akelling: yea the new one looks like a hearse | 14:21 |
| mrgoodcat | i love mine | 14:21 |
| akelling | Want to haul a trailer those things will do it with ease. | 14:22 |
| mrgoodcat | not as well as our f150 but yea it gets the job done for sure | 14:22 |
| akelling | Most likly get the same MPG too lol | 14:22 |
| mrgoodcat | mine has airbags too for ride leveling | 14:22 |
| akelling | Take it you have the newer F150? | 14:22 |
| mrgoodcat | yea 2012 lariat | 14:22 |
| akelling | Nice! | 14:23 |
| mrgoodcat | best vehicle we've ever owned | 14:23 |
| mrgoodcat | hands down | 14:23 |
| akelling | Everyone that I know that owns a newer F150 says that too. They ride so nice. | 14:23 |
| mrgoodcat | it also rounds out the major pickup manufacturers. now we've owned a RAM, a Silverado, and an F150 | 14:23 |
| mrgoodcat | nicest interior, nicest ride, best towing, best fuel economy | 14:24 |
| brousch | YOU'RE KILLING THE PLANET! | 14:24 |
| mrgoodcat | i really can't think of a single category that any truck beats it in | 14:24 |
| akelling | Next one going to be a Toyota Tundra? | 14:24 |
| mrgoodcat | if you need more towing than is available in the F150 you should really be going up to the super duty size anyways | 14:24 |
| mrgoodcat | lol foreign car, who do you think i am? | 14:25 |
| akelling | I heard they are killing off the F250. | 14:25 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm pissed enough at chrysler for being an italian company | 14:25 |
| mrgoodcat | akelling: not killing off, just renaming to Super Duty | 14:25 |
| cmaloney | Soooper Dooooodie | 14:25 |
| mrgoodcat | killing off the 250 moniker though | 14:25 |
| cmaloney | Which means they'll decontent it | 14:26 |
| mrgoodcat | what do you mean by that? | 14:26 |
| cmaloney | Means they'll put something out to replace it but it won't be the same vehicle | 14:26 |
| cmaloney | less towing, less chutzpah | 14:26 |
| mrgoodcat | nah. i doubt it. it's exactly the same truch just with a different name, and they aren't marketing it to consumers | 14:27 |
| mrgoodcat | its supposed to be a work truck | 14:27 |
| mrgoodcat | no reason to undercut the F150 and the Super Duty with an inbetweener | 14:28 |
| akelling | F350 = Super Duty? | 14:28 |
| mrgoodcat | no F250 = Super Duty | 14:29 |
| mrgoodcat | well, anything > 150 is in the super duty line | 14:29 |
| akelling | oic | 14:29 |
| cmaloney | So the F350 will be the Ultra-Duty? | 14:29 |
| akelling | Most people dont need more then the F150. | 14:29 |
| mrgoodcat | there are almost no people that need more than the F150. lots of companies though | 14:30 |
| akelling | Farmers is what came to my mind | 14:30 |
| mrgoodcat | if you count independent workers like farmers as businesses, there is pretty much nobody outside of businesses that need the super duty sizes | 14:30 |
| akelling | Exactly | 14:31 |
| akelling | Wish they had a light duty truck still. I loved the Rangers | 14:31 |
| mrgoodcat | really? i always thought they filled a somewhat useless niche | 14:32 |
| mrgoodcat | people_who_want_to_own_trucks_but_don't_need_them | 14:32 |
| mrgoodcat | ranger can do almost nothing an SUV can't do | 14:32 |
| akelling | I always liked the open bed. Lot of things I dont want in the car with me. | 14:33 |
| mrgoodcat | i guess... it still seems like too small a market segment to worry about | 14:34 |
| mrgoodcat | combined with the fact that the rangers had terrible build quality | 14:34 |
| akelling | They seemed to sell well look how many of them are still rolling around. | 14:34 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: :P | 14:35 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: I'm so tired and worn out all I can speak is yubikey | 14:35 |
| mrgoodcat | only 19k rangers in 2012 | 14:35 |
| mrgoodcat | http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/ford-ranger-sales-figures.html | 14:36 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/dDTNUw - Ford Ranger Sales Figures - GOOD CAR BAD CAR | 14:36 |
| akelling | really wow | 14:36 |
| mrgoodcat | scroll to the 3rd table | 14:36 |
| mrgoodcat | shows a clear down trend | 14:36 |
| mrgoodcat | down 90% in 10 years | 14:36 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: when I get my airstream and my F250 super duty I'll disagree :P | 14:36 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: how much does that airstream weigh? | 14:37 |
| mrgoodcat | also, get the diesel. we owned one and it was glorious | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | the one I want? loaded with stuff for a week+ journey around 12k | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I'm all deisel from now on | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | I'll never go back | 14:37 |
| mrgoodcat | aww yea | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | my TDI rules | 14:37 |
| mrgoodcat | wish i could get a diesel fusion | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | I was a deisel q3 here that seemed cool | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | small little cross over thing in tdi | 14:38 |
| akelling | Ah thats why. Priced them selfs out. For just a little more you get an F150 | 14:38 |
| mrgoodcat | yea, and the f150 became so much easier to drive and nicer interiors | 14:38 |
| akelling | Very true. | 14:39 |
| mrgoodcat | F series sold 60K in september of this year alone | 14:40 |
| akelling | So many memorys beating the crap of Rangers though. The V6 models where unkillable | 14:40 |
| jrwren_ | brousch: ah, so you go 55 to hypermile? | 14:40 |
| mrgoodcat | he probably tailgates semis for the drafting too | 14:41 |
| mrgoodcat | while eating kale and avocados | 14:41 |
| mrgoodcat | :P | 14:41 |
| jrwren_ | I don't understand small truck low sales. They are the most useful pickups around. I want a S10 with a 2.2L 4cyl long bed. Perfect for garden work. | 14:41 |
| jrwren_ | mmm... kale and avocados | 14:41 |
| jrwren_ | nah, if he was that hardcore hippie, he'd go to the farmers market in a gazelle cabby. http://www.gazellebikes.com/collection-bikes/cabby?type=ladies | 14:43 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/Is5X67 - Cabby | 14:43 |
| brousch | jrwren_: I aim for 50MPG. I can get that at 70MPH if the wind and rain aren't too bad | 14:46 |
| akelling | That is my usecase for a light duty truck. Small Gardening work. Big enough bed to put a 4wheeler in it or a deer. | 14:47 |
| brousch | Actually I have taken a liking to baked kale chips | 14:47 |
| jrwren_ | brousch: those are GOOD | 14:47 |
| jrwren_ | akelling: so what is there? just tacoma and frontier? the GM offerings are too big & shit. Ranger is dead? | 14:47 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: the colorado? | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: that's the small end truck on the GM end right? | 14:48 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h_: yeah, that is GM. | 14:48 |
| jrwren_ | oh... Ranger might be coming back. http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/ford-considering-ranger-sized-compact-pickup/ | 14:48 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/9k1RVf - Ford considering Ranger-sized compact pickup | Digital Trends | 14:48 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h_: Colorado is not a small pickup. its midsize. :( I miss the S10 | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | gotcha | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | what about that subaru elcamino thing :P | 14:49 |
| rick_h_ | I think they stopped making it though | 14:49 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h_: those are sweet! or an old Brat. | 14:49 |
| brousch | Small pickup http://www.tfltruck.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/subaru.baja-profile.jpg | 14:49 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/7eKPKn - image/jpeg | 14:49 |
| jrwren_ | craigslist->subara brat | 14:49 |
| jrwren_ | no results | 14:49 |
| akelling | Colorado is huge compaired to the S10 | 14:50 |
| brousch | subaru baja | 14:50 |
| akelling | UGH those 1/4 bed trucks | 14:50 |
| brousch | marketed to surfers, I assume | 14:50 |
| akelling | marketed to women mostly. | 14:51 |
| jrwren_ | akelling: exactly. S10 was a small pickup. Colorado is midsized. | 14:52 |
| akelling | Ford had an Escape version that was nice but eveyone that owned one that I knew was a women. Put the grocerys in the bed and don. | 14:52 |
| jrwren_ | An Escape with an open bed? | 14:52 |
| akelling | Ford Escape sport trac | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | ugh the sport trac | 14:54 |
| jrwren_ | i worry about buying any american low volume vehicle. | 14:55 |
| akelling | I worry about buying any American vehicle.... | 14:56 |
| jrwren_ | They make 100 of them a year. The line never really figures out the product and optimizes, and so you get lots of bugs. | 14:56 |
| akelling | This Ford I have right now is really nice though for what it is. | 14:56 |
| jrwren_ | I don't worry about the good american vehicles. My 13yr old chevy is rocking. | 14:56 |
| akelling | Yeah I dont think I would buy a GM anytime soon. | 14:57 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't worry about newer fords, although they had some bad years semi-recently | 14:57 |
| mrgoodcat | the new GMs are pretty meh | 14:57 |
| akelling | Dodge I am coming around to. | 14:57 |
| mrgoodcat | chrysler is italian | 14:57 |
| akelling | So many Transmission issues in there 90's era cars and trucks. | 14:58 |
| jrwren_ | depends on the GM model. | 15:00 |
| jrwren_ | and, in general, GM is expensive for what you get. | 15:00 |
| mrgoodcat | my 2004 suburban (Chevy/GM) had a crap transmission in it out of the factory. I've talked to a proving grounds worker who said they're pretty much all crap if you don't get the Z71 trans | 15:00 |
| jrwren_ | akelling: s/there/their/ | 15:00 |
| mrgoodcat | oh snap. he sed you | 15:01 |
| mrgoodcat | that was better inside my head | 15:01 |
| akelling | I was speaking more on the Dodge side for Tranny issues. | 15:06 |
| mrgoodcat | have only had a couple dodges. The 2000 Ram 2500 had a shit transmission (and shit everything else really) but the 2012 Durango hasn't caused any issues and the 2006 Durango didn't cause us issues either | 15:07 |
| akelling | Sounds about right. | 15:08 |
| akelling | About the only thing Dodge that has had me interested has to have SRT in the name in the past. | 15:09 |
| mrgoodcat | (neon srt)++ | 15:09 |
| mrgoodcat | they made a couple badass srt versions of various cars | 15:10 |
| akelling | shit box that flew | 15:10 |
| akelling | Past few years of SRT's are great. | 15:10 |
| jrwren_ | GLH > SRT | 15:12 |
| akelling | I was a JP car guy for a long time but they are not what they used to be. American cars have really stepped up there game the past few years. Why I ended up in Ford. | 15:13 |
| akelling | LMAO | 15:13 |
| akelling | GLHS != Dodge. | 15:13 |
| mrgoodcat | Shelby right? | 15:13 |
| akelling | Its a shelby | 15:13 |
| akelling | Cool car back in the 80's | 15:14 |
| mrgoodcat | there were no cool cars in the 80's | 15:16 |
| akelling | DMC's? | 15:16 |
| akelling | I loved my Celica Supra. Car was older then me. | 15:16 |
| akelling | CRX's | 15:17 |
| akelling | Thats about it on my list of cool cars from the 80's | 15:18 |
| mrgoodcat | anybody use thunderbird for email? http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2373-1/ | 15:40 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/bJB79v - USN-2373-1: Thunderbird vulnerabilities | Ubuntu | 15:40 |
| cmaloney | I use it | 15:49 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.starrealms.starrealmsapp | 15:50 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/Nb08Nw - Star Realms - Android Apps on Google Play | 15:50 |
| cmaloney | $5 for online play | 15:50 |
| cmaloney | which I've gotten more than my $5 worth IMHO | 15:50 |
| cmaloney | https://www.google.com/nexus/6/ | 16:11 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/7ZxFFb - Nexus 6 â Google | 16:11 |
| mrgoodcat | (thai food)++ | 16:56 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: i cant believe you are going to win this battle | 18:13 |
| brousch | mrgoodcat: You're making me think way too hard in this game. | 18:13 |
| mrgoodcat | i've felt less out of my depth this game. but i'll probably still lose lol | 18:17 |
| mrgoodcat | i should have killed that group when i had the chance | 18:18 |
| brousch | You never know. Killing a group costs moves, which I could use to pester other parts of the board | 18:19 |
| mrgoodcat | i think this might have been a defining battle in this game | 18:24 |
| brousch | Definitely, though I'm sure all is lost for you | 18:35 |
| brousch | I'm not sure | 18:35 |
| mrgoodcat | not all maybe, certainly a lot | 18:38 |
| brousch | mrgoodcat: Make sure you take good look at the middle left of the board | 18:44 |
| brousch | It looks secure at a glance, but you technically have 0 eyes there | 18:45 |
| mrgoodcat | yea i know. i was just trying to figure out how to save that part | 18:58 |
| brousch | It's like 2 moves from being a big 1 eye with a lot of room to add on the second | 19:01 |
| brousch | That was the essential move. Well done | 19:03 |
| brousch | Now I could take it in 6 moves if you don't establish the 2nd eye | 19:04 |
| brousch | But before the last it was vulnerable in 2 moves | 19:05 |
| mrgoodcat | I was so sure of myself in that battle early on | 19:08 |
| mrgoodcat | made overconfidence mistakes | 19:09 |
| brousch | Happens to me all the time. You almost got that left corner because I didn't reinforce it | 19:16 |
| akelling | What are you guys playing? | 19:17 |
| mrgoodcat | Go | 19:17 |
| mrgoodcat | http://www.dragongoserver.net/game.php?gid=935149 | 19:17 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/lmuceB - DGS - Game #935149,85 | 19:17 |
| akelling | Ah | 19:18 |
| akelling | Always wanted to learn how to play that. | 19:18 |
| mrgoodcat | then learn | 19:19 |
| mrgoodcat | make an account on DGS | 19:19 |
| mrgoodcat | i just started last week | 19:19 |
| mrgoodcat | i'll play with you | 19:19 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm sure brousch and cmaloney will too | 19:19 |
| brousch | mrgoodcat: Your thoughts on g8? | 19:44 |
| mrgoodcat | i need g8 and g10 to protect f10-13 | 19:45 |
| mrgoodcat | I also need a second eye | 19:45 |
| brousch | Can g8 become an eye? | 19:45 |
| mrgoodcat | you own 3 of the corners so no | 19:46 |
| mrgoodcat | i would need h7 and h9 | 19:46 |
| mrgoodcat | f9 is out of the question | 19:47 |
| mrgoodcat | unless i'm missing something | 19:47 |
| brousch | That is correct. Obviously h9 is vulnerable. What about h7? | 19:48 |
| mrgoodcat | it's actually not invulnerable yet | 19:48 |
| mrgoodcat | but it would be devlishly hard to get | 19:48 |
| brousch | Correct. So what is the right thing to do with g8? | 19:48 |
| mrgoodcat | i've already claimed g10, i'm going to fill g8 obviously | 19:49 |
| mrgoodcat | which has the side-effect of connecting my structures and making them harder to capture | 19:49 |
| mrgoodcat | giving me more opportunity to make a second eye | 19:49 |
| brousch | good | 19:49 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm still mad i pissed that corner away | 19:50 |
| mrgoodcat | it was mine and i let it go | 19:50 |
| brousch | You see a lot more than I think sometimes ;) | 19:50 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: i'm a quick learner especially for abstract things | 19:50 |
| mrgoodcat | I think if I would have killed your group in the bottom left I would have stood a good chance at winning this one | 19:51 |
| mrgoodcat | I played like 10 games on my phone with the computer last night and won all but 2 games. a couple by a significant margin :) | 19:52 |
| brousch | Yes | 19:52 |
| brousch | Although winning the corner has made me arrogant so I could slip up due to that | 19:53 |
| mrgoodcat | there's so much more to this than chess | 19:53 |
| mrgoodcat | I'm used to wrecking people in chess. its nice to play a game i'm bad at again. i like the learning process | 19:54 |
| brousch | I am horrible at chess | 19:54 |
| mrgoodcat | I used to think i was bad a chess | 19:55 |
| mrgoodcat | because i oonly ever played with my dad | 19:55 |
| mrgoodcat | i mean don't get me wrong, i'm not good either. just better than my friends at WMU | 19:57 |
| brousch | OK, time for the boy's fencing class. CYA | 19:58 |
| mrgoodcat | have a great time | 19:58 |
| mrgoodcat | fencing is badass btw | 19:58 |
| mrgoodcat | your kid is awesome | 19:58 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: any idea who's going to be at CHC tonight? | 20:16 |
| cmaloney | I'm planning on being there | 20:55 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: ^ | 20:55 |
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