[00:00] <Guest32814> Thought so! :)
[00:00] <stormzen> I'm having an issue with wireless networking on 14.04. I think I have the Centrino Advanced-N 6205 network controller ( uses the iwlwifi driver ). I'm not sure how to replicate the issue here at home, but at two different wireless spots where the connection was working for my phone, it lost access to the wireless network and wasn't able to get it again before rebooting.  I do notice, though that sudo service networking stop results in : stop: Job failed whi
[00:00] <stormzen> le stopping , and a message in dmesg: init: networking post-stop process .. terminated with status 100
[00:01] <stormzen> !log
[00:01] <Guest32814> hall72: Remember to disable all scripts.
[00:02] <hall72> Guest32814: Of course.
[00:03] <Guest32814> Why would people want IRC logs?
[00:04] <stormzen> Heh.  I was curious about what you were talking about.  :p
[00:05] <Guest32814> k:)
[00:08] <chui> rufus
[00:08] <chui> pretty good usb bootable creator
[00:09] <stormzen> ah, now I understand the tor over VPN via HongKong servers bit.
[00:10] <stormzen> ( it seemed like it might be excessive )
[00:12] <stormzen> Is there a quick way to determine if there is a known issue with iwlwifi + centrino advanced 6205-N ?
[00:14] <m{a}zel> no love on the linux on Surface yet...
[00:14] <m{a}zel> lol
[00:14] <reisio> if I had an extra $1000 I might get a surface pro
[00:14] <reisio> but I wouldn't get a tablet that had no confirmation you can replace the OS on it
[00:14] <reisio> not ever
[00:15] <reisio> not unless it came with the distro I use :p
[00:15] <reisio> and maybe not even then
[00:27] <stormzen> On Ubuntu 14, is can the network service be stopped with sudo service networking stop?  It fails for me.
[00:27] <stormzen> I'm trying to establish if that's expected behavior.
[00:28] <stormzen> ( or if it's likely unrelated to wireless not working on networks that aren't my home network. )
[00:42] <chui> installing lubuntu at least wireless works
[00:42] <AR45> Hello.
[00:42] <AR45> !unopaste
[00:43] <stormzen> !unopaste
[00:45] <bubbasaures> chui, ubuntu being lightweight is more .config rather than gui orientated is all, not hard to figure out though.
[00:46] <chui> hmmm @bubbasaures
[00:46] <chui> i had thought of manjaro
[00:46] <bubbasaures> chui, This is tweaking it, full desktop otherwise.
[00:47] <chui> ahhhh
[00:47] <chui> will check it out
[00:47] <gshmu> hello my system update ing  but download the flashplugin-installer very slow, I download it,
[00:48] <chui> win 7 was laggy ugh
[00:49] <bubbasaures> gshmu, You can when update finished the repo speeds in software and updates first tab
[00:50] <bubbasaures> get the fastest speed that is
[00:50] <gshmu> the plugin download very slow in China, I'm download it by proxy
[00:51] <chui> doesnt proxy slowdown
[00:51] <gshmu> bubbasaures:  I can't wait it finished, I head some body wait one more hour
[00:53] <crocket> Is it better to upgrade ubuntu online or install a new version of ubuntu on an existing ubuntu partition?
[00:53] <stormzen> On Ubuntu 14.04.1, can the network service be stopped with sudo service networking stop?  It fails for me.  I'm trying to figure out if that's expected behavior.
[00:53] <bubbasaures> gshmu, Not sure I understand your issue.
[00:54] <bubbasaures> crocket, No best here, depends on your needs and skills.
[00:55] <gshmu> update I using one nearby internet source, so i don't using the proxy for update, but when update start need download flashplugin-installer from archive.canonical.com, not from my nearby source
[00:55] <crocket> gshmu, Your english is confusing.
[00:55] <gshmu> bubbasaures: I'm Chinese, so poor english...
[00:55] <bubbasaures> !cn |gshmu
[00:56] <crocket> What is tw? taiwan?
[00:56] <ObrienDave> yes
[00:56] <bubbasaures> two channels
[00:56] <gshmu> I can know some english
[00:56] <crocket> I wonder how chinese memorize a lot of chinese letters.
[00:56] <chui> why is wireless finicky on ubuntu flavours
[00:56] <gshmu> crocket: yes tw is taiwan
[00:56] <bubbasaures> gshmu, We are not communicating.
[00:56] <AR45> COOL
[00:57] <ObrienDave> crocket, those aew not letters, they are words
[00:57] <ObrienDave> *are
[00:57] <gshmu> bubbasaures: I'm type english,....
[00:57] <stormzen> chui, what network card do you have?
[00:57] <crocket> I heard chinese still make new letters.
[00:57] <bubbasaures> gshmu, You might try your native language channel, I can't really understand you,sorry.
[00:58] <gshmu> bubbasaures: hehe
[00:58]  * ObrienDave give up
[00:58] <EriC^^> gshmu: what nearby source are you talking about?
[00:58] <ObrienDave> *gives
[00:58] <gshmu> look pic at https://clbin.com/MFitws.png
[00:59] <EriC^^> heh in this case a pic will be worth a couple million words
[00:59] <EriC^^> ( had to )
[00:59] <EriC^^> :D checking..
[01:00] <gshmu> the pic may be the nice way
[01:00] <EriC^^> gshmu: ok, after you press close, did you open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update ?
[01:00] <crocket> I feel so weird, yo.
[01:01] <crocket> gshmu, Your english will get better after years.
[01:01] <gshmu> EriC^^: update by daily_update
[01:01] <AR45> Hi
[01:01] <gshmu> crocket: yeah, after years
[01:02] <crocket> gshmu, That being said, IRC is not a good way to learn english.
[01:02] <EriC^^> gshmu: open a terminal, ( ctrl+alt+T ) , type sudo apt-get update
[01:03] <gshmu> EriC^^: thanks,
[01:03] <EriC^^> no problem
[01:04] <AR45> Hello.
[01:04] <wlxmhls> hi, i setup windows system in virtualbox. then i played video in windows, but the audio does not synchronize with image. audio is about 5 seconds ahead image. why? how to fix it? thanks.
[01:04] <AR45> wlxmhls: Enable 3D Acceleration in VBOX.
[01:05] <wlxmhls> AR45: thanks, any other possible solution?
[01:05] <chui> sucess
[01:05] <chui> installing virtual keyboard
[01:07] <gshmu> EriC^^: https://clbin.com/oGopUd.png
[01:07] <gshmu> I download from http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.411.orig.tar.gz
[01:07] <crocket> Woorah
[01:08] <EriC^^> !find flash
[01:09] <EriC^^> gshmu: type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[01:09] <gshmu> EriC^^: download the package by apt-get, and dpkg install
[01:10] <_guest_> can i install gnome classic desktop on xubuntu 14.04?
[01:10] <EriC^^> _guest_: you mean mate?
[01:10] <gshmu> EriC^^: the adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.411.orig.tar.gz download will be slow, I downloaded it.  How to using i downloaded file
[01:10] <ObrienDave> _guest_, yes, you can
[01:11] <_guest_> ObrienDave , haven t found anything on google
[01:11] <EriC^^> gshmu: i think you need a .dsc file and a .diff.gz
[01:11] <EriC^^> can someone confirm?
[01:12] <ObrienDave> _guest_, didn't say i knew how ;P
[01:12] <EriC^^> gshmu: they are very tiny files
[01:12] <wjtaylor> kinda OT, but hoping someone can help. I have an older machine running ubuntu. I just bought a sata dvd drive for it, but cannot boot the install dvd from it. It doesn't see any bootable media.
[01:12] <wjtaylor> Should this be seen in the bios?
[01:12] <wjtaylor> I only see my old pata drive
[01:12] <gshmu> EriC^^: Thanks, I setting all proxy, and then apt-get install. thanks again
[01:12] <ObrienDave> wjtaylor, that depends on the BIOS
[01:13] <wjtaylor> I see no settings for sata
[01:13] <wjtaylor> it has sata ports though
[01:14] <EriC^^> gshmu: no problem
[01:14] <wjtaylor> on boot it shows ASUS on "serial channel" which is promising... but I can't figure out how to get it to boot
[01:20] <raarissa> Hi! What is THE recommended way of getting Ubuntu on a USB drive these days?
[01:20] <raarissa> I mean, to install from.
[01:21] <xangua> !usb
[01:22] <raarissa> xangua: That's A LOT of information.
[01:22] <raarissa> o_o
[01:22] <wfsaf> test message
[01:25] <acerspyro> wfsaf: failed
[01:36] <Finetundra> i'm trying to resize a partition to a larger one. however the space i can free up by shrinking the other partition does not seem to be useable for the partition i'm trying to increase. does anyone know how to do this?
[01:36] <yusuf> anyone know how to replace sudo -u username -H ( if i already as root?)
[01:44] <unerpolsu> Hi people i need an vpn maxime segurity alternative azor in ubuntu
[01:45] <unerpolsu> that is dead
[01:45] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, http://imgur.com/ei6IXRK
[01:46] <TheNexT> Anybody here using preload with Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS?
[01:46] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, ok, what are you trying to do?
[01:46] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, increase the size of the smaller partition on the left
[01:47] <TheNexT> !preload
[01:47] <TheNexT> !array_slice
[01:47] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, only way to do that is decrease sda2 first then expand sda1
[01:47] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, have i not done that?
[01:47] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, not yet :)
[01:48] <ObrienDave> see sda2? it's an extended partition. sda5 and 6 exist within sda2
[01:48] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, ok
[01:49] <TheNexT> :/
[01:49] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, so, resize sda2 by moving the START of the partition to the right however much you want
[01:50] <ObrienDave> then expand sda1 by moving the END to the right to meet sda2
[01:50] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, working on it
[01:50] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: swap on sda5 must also be turn off .
[01:51] <ObrienDave> yes and you can turn it on again when done
[01:52] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, also prepare for the resizing operations to take quite a while
[01:52] <duckgoose> oh freenode
[01:52] <duckgoose> why must you fail
[01:53] <ObrienDave> freenode fails when askers don't listen
[01:54] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, ok, it's going
[01:55] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, cool, relax and enjoy the show LOL please wait for it to do everything
[01:55] <ObrienDave> this could take HOURS
[01:56] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, Hours? oh dear
[01:56] <ObrienDave> yes, you basically have to move 800GB of stuff
[01:56] <ObrienDave> and not bork the drive
[01:57] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, bork?
[01:57] <Sancho> I just purchased an Arduino Uno from RadioShack.
[01:57] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, you're scaring me
[01:57] <Sancho> How do I get Ubuntu on this?
[01:57] <ObrienDave> eat? screw up? make into doo-doo?
[01:57] <Sancho> Is there a way to boot it from USB and install Ubuntu to it?
[01:57] <Sancho> Hello? Help?
[01:57] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, :(
[01:58] <Sancho> Has anyone ever installed Ubuntu to an Arduino before?
[01:58] <AceLan> Sancho: no, I don't think Ubuntu can run on an Arduino borad
[01:58] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, just let it do it's thing. it will be fine
[01:58] <Sancho> AceLan, do I need to download RAM?
[01:58] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, good thing it's not all 800, just 400 or so
[01:58] <AceLan> Sancho: no, there is no way that Ubuntu can run on it, it's not a computer, it's just a logic board
[01:59] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, did we or gparted not warn Finetundra about possible data loss?
[01:59] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, it did
[01:59] <Finetundra> but you guys didn't
[01:59] <fortynine> hello!
[02:00] <ObrienDave> ok, PLEASE let it finish doing it's thing
[02:00] <Sancho> AceLan: Can I jailbreak an Arduino?
[02:00] <Sancho> Like a Raspberry Pi?
[02:00] <AceLan> Sancho: no need, it's open hardware
[02:00] <Sancho> AceLan: I think I can download more RAM.
[02:00] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, gotcha, don't worry
[02:00] <bubbasaures> Sancho, I see ubuntu attached to that hardware on the web, http://playground.arduino.cc/Linux/Ubuntu  look for your release ans actual use.
[02:01] <Sancho> Okay guys, thanks!
[02:01] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: IT is is big letters in GParted .. for a fact ... IT could happen ( but moving / to the right is less likely, that is a good thing )
[02:01] <Sancho> I'll see if I can run a Java VM on my Arduino Uno and get Windows 10 on it
[02:01] <langit> how to install libre office offline?
[02:01] <Sancho> if not I'll return it
[02:02] <Sancho> I just want to play Minecraft on my Arduino that's all
[02:02] <Sancho> nothing else really lol
[02:02] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, agrees :)
[02:02] <AceLan> bubbasaures: Sancho: no, that page doesn't describe that, it just say how to operate your adruino from ubuntu
[02:02] <Sancho> Hehe, I'm just messing around guys
[02:02] <Sancho> I'm bored, sorry
[02:02] <fortynine> YEAHAHAHAH
[02:02] <Sancho> Thanks for the help though
[02:02] <bubbasaures> AceLan, And your point is?
[02:02] <fortynine> i just downloaded a file
[02:03] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Finetundra :: as advised, all ya can do now is grap a cuppa, watch the show ... ( you do have backups, yes ?) .
[02:04] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, i'm confident moving start of sda2 to the right and NOT moving sda6 is also safe and expedient
[02:05] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, most of the important stuff is backed up, no need to worry
[02:05] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Finetundra :: The power of positive thinking ! But nothig takes the place of them there 5 Ps .
[02:06] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, you lost me there
[02:07] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: 5 Ps Prior Prudent Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance .
[02:08] <Finetundra> Bashing-om,would it be fine to leave it unattended through the night, that's 7 Ps by the way
[02:09] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, yup, not to worry
[02:09] <ObrienDave> and i had to count the Ps ;P
[02:09] <Finetundra> thanks
[02:11] <uniquedepiction> I am trying to set numlock on startup
[02:11] <uniquedepiction> I installed numlockx
[02:11] <uniquedepiction> I used this command "sudo sed -i 's|^exit 0.*$|# Numlock enable\n[ -x /usr/bin/numlockx ] \&\& numlockx on\n\nexit 0|' /etc/rc.local" and now my computer mutes on startup
[02:12] <jcstarken> been searching for an hour on syncing ipad mini ios8.0.2 with 14.04 and not getting any where any help here?
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: ObrienDave :: just checking yall had my back .
[02:13] <ObrienDave> jcstarken, use a service like dropbox
[02:13] <jcstarken> OMG: I'M DUMB, that is great thank you
[02:13] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, not to worry, you're one of the few i have not angered today ;P
[02:14] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, i've got your back
[02:25] <agent_white> Evenin'
[02:26] <khss1> haiiiiiiiii
[02:26] <khss1> hai ha ha
[02:27] <khss2> bai
[02:27] <khss1> kkk
[02:27] <khss1> sudhina are you mad
[02:27] <khss2> hai
[02:28] <khss1> hai
[02:28] <Finetundra> hey, um, since i'm on a laptop should i plug into AC and remove the battery?
[02:28] <ObrienDave> at least plug AC in
[02:29] <khss1> ethokeyunde
[02:29] <khss2> enthi na nee jeevichirikkunnathe
[02:29] <Yrie> !dropbox
[02:29] <Finetundra> i know, but should i pull the battery so i don't burn it up?
[02:29] <ObrienDave> you don't EVER want to do partition resizing on battery power. no no not ever
[02:30] <khss1> ne poyi chatyhukude
[02:30] <Pici> khss1: Do you have an Ubuntu question?
[02:30] <ObrienDave> you can but it wont kill the battery overnight
[02:30] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, ^^^
[02:30] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, so i should be fine?
[02:30] <ObrienDave> i would think so
[02:31] <Finetundra> ok
[02:32] <khss1> neyoke ee boomiku thanne wast
[02:32] <khss2> every sucssussful person has a painfulm story
[02:32] <khss1> poiokhdusykuwgfjrewhug
[02:32] <khss1> hukjknj.kjkl
[02:32] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, my Vaio has a windows utility to limit battery charge to 50 or 80%. mine is set at 50%
[02:33] <wplmuq> hello my game in wine 1.6 always dejavu like its replay back 5 second , the game name is shatter galaxy
[02:34] <ObrienDave> wplmuq, ask in #winehq
[02:34] <wplmuq> ok thks
[02:34] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, is there such a thing in ubuntu?
[02:34] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, not that i know of
[02:34] <Finetundra> :(
[02:35] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, one of the few reasons i still keep windows ;P
[02:37] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, at least i still have my product key
[02:38] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, that works 3 times for reinstalling iirc
[02:40] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, i don't recall having reinstalled before so that gives me about 3 reinstalls
[02:40] <Finetundra> plus however many reinstalls are left for a scrapped laptop in my possession
[02:41] <ObrienDave> it's good to keep old product keys :)
[02:44] <Finetundra> plus a key for win vista on a different scrapped laptop
[02:44] <Finetundra> i have too many spare product keys
[02:47] <khss10> cdfjjjkuk
[02:48] <khss10> goodevening
[02:50] <crocket2> I'm a little surprised that ubuntu 14.04 still uses ext2 by default.
[02:51] <crocket> hi ubuntu gays
[02:51] <handlehard> hello
[02:51] <crocket> ubuntu server 14.04 uses ext2 by default.
[02:51] <crocket> Why?
[02:51] <crocket> It's gay.
[02:55] <shplat> can anyone point me to the doc that explains the proper way to create and install deb files from archives of new software? specifically i want to upgrade bluez, install ds4drv, and update blender "the right way"
[02:56] <Finetundra> um, gnome shell just crashed and the progress meter for gparted is nowhere to be found
[02:57] <sacarlson> shplat: did you try look in the ppa for newer releases?
[02:57] <sacarlson> shplat: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[02:58] <shplat> sacar: no. will check out htat link now. ty
[02:59] <khss10> ggggggggggg
[03:01] <shplat> sacarlson: that looks like debs that individuals have made. i'd feel more comfortable downloading the original files from github or other official site and create it myself. i'm beginning to think it is not trivial though
[03:02] <sacarlson> shplat: it depends on the complexity of the app in github,  I normally trust ppa as most have many people looking at it.  github is just made by individuals as well
[03:03] <shplat> thats true
[03:03] <sacarlson> shplat: I would think blender might be complex but with all the dependencies it might not be too hard
[03:05] <sivik> anyone in here run steam?
[03:05] <user> all dayum day
[03:07] <sivik> user was that a response for me?
[03:07] <shplat> sacarlson: going to give it a shot based on this link. thx for your input. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html
[03:07] <Malsasa> Hello. I am building MathGL2.3 with CMake 2.8.9 in Ubuntu 12.04. In the last lines of make step, I got /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmgl-qt4; collect2: ld returned 1 exit status; make[2]: *** [udav/udav] Error 1;. My cmake  option was only  -D enable-qt=ON (source: http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/doc_en/Installation.html#Installation). Any help? Thanks.
[03:08] <chui> anyone have a fix for sound lubuntu  on HP slate 500
[03:08] <sacarlson> shplat: cool you can do it,  also ppa isn't always on the edge or the newist stuf, so if you make it direct from the developers you will be sure to have the new stuf
[03:10] <sacarlson> Malsasa: sounds like it's missing a dependancy
[03:11] <Malsasa> sacarlson: sort of. But I have not clue what is missing and how to resolve.
[03:15] <ObrienDave> shplat, .deb NOT needed for blender. no dependencies either. all files needed are in the .tar.bs2
[03:15] <sacarlson> Malsasa: at the link you provided I don't see them list the dependancies needed so I think you will need to look at the make file to find what they try to link to and install all the xxxx-dev of those libs used
[03:16] <Malsasa> sacarlson: I will follow your clues first.
[03:17] <shplat> 0brienDave: but the blender folder is just sitting there in my ~/Downloads directory. I want to put it *somewhere*, but be able to remove/upgrade when the new version comes out. what's best practice for blender?
[03:17] <ObrienDave> shplat, http://www.blender.org/download/ for other operating systems you can simply unpack the compressed file to the location of your choice. Provided the Blender binary is in the original extracted directory, Blender will run straight out of the box. No system libraries or system preferences are altered.
[03:18] <ObrienDave> shplat, open in archive manager, extract to ANYWHERE keeping file structure intact, run blender file in 1st level of directory
[03:18] <shplat> 0brienDave: cool, i'll do that for blender. thx.
[03:19] <chui> anyone know how to get sound on lubuntu
[03:19] <ObrienDave> chui, turn the volume up ;P
[03:19] <sacarlson> shplat: I imagine the tar.gz file is a comiled binary you can just run it from your local directory ./filename  you can make a shortcut to run it on your desktop to make it easy to start
[03:19] <droseacc> Hey so my laptop doesn't support booting off an SD card, if I install ubuntu to the SD card and grub to the HDD will it detect my install?
[03:20] <chui> haha installed lubuntu on a HP slate 500..wifi works,touch as well but no sound
[03:20] <sacarlson> droseacc: you should be able to manualy make a grub entry to run your sd version
[03:20] <ObrienDave> shplat, there is a binary file in the 1st level of the TAR, make link to that file on desktop
[03:21] <crocket> Has ubuntu moved to wayland yet?
[03:21] <sacarlson> droseacc: oh in fact maybe update-grub might detect it and put it in grub start for you
[03:22] <reisio> crocket: no one has
[03:22] <droseacc> Cool, I'll give that a try
[03:22] <rww> crocket: no
[03:22] <reisio> when it's time, everyone will
[03:22] <crocket> I see libwayland
[03:22] <crocket> Mir
[03:22] <crocket> It was Mir.
[03:22] <ObrienDave> shplat, set your projects to save elsewhere and when you need to upgrade blender, delete old directory, expand new directory and remake desktop link. really easy
[03:23] <ObrienDave> *old blender directory
[03:23] <droseacc> Nvidia just announced their plans to support Mir/Wayland so when that happens I guess
[03:24] <revofire> hi...
[03:24] <crocket> When will ubuntu migrate to Mir?
[03:24] <reisio> revofire: heyo
[03:24] <crocket> I'm waiting.
[03:24] <revofire> can someone help me?
[03:24] <shplat> 0brienDave: cool. thats what i'll do for blender. bluez5.1 looks like i'll make a deb for that one
[03:24] <reisio> crocket: never if they know what's good for them
[03:25] <rww> crocket: when it's ready, i expect. i think the current plan is <= 16.04
[03:25] <crocket> Oh
[03:25] <revofire> anyone else know how to fix the grub error after upgrading to 14.04 from 12.10? I can't boot and I'm on my live disk and don't kknow what to do.
[03:25] <crocket> several years.
[03:25] <crocket> When will any linux OS move to wayland?
[03:25] <reisio> revofire: _the_ grub error?
[03:25] <reisio> crocket: when it's ready
[03:25] <ObrienDave> when they're ready to
[03:25] <revofire> yes THE error haha
[03:25] <reisio> when _it_ is ready
[03:25] <rww> i'm seeing a trend here
[03:25] <reisio> wayland is made by the X guys, at a certain point they will 100% give up maintaining X
[03:26] <reisio> and at that point, so will every distro
[03:26] <AR45> Help me
[03:26] <reisio> (okay more like 90% :p)
[03:26] <reisio> AR45: oh please
[03:26] <docente__> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL
[03:26] <revofire> error: file not found is what shows up and it goes to rescue grub
[03:26] <rww> !es | docente__
[03:27] <docente__> ALGUIEN ES DEL PERU
[03:27] <reisio> docente__: donde esta la capslock
[03:27] <sacarlson> revofire: before anything else you might want to backup at least your home directory onto a flash drive
[03:27] <revofire> oh this is a fresh install :)
[03:28] <reisio> revofire: you can fix it from a live OS
[03:28] <reisio> sacarlson: no particular reason to do that (though obviously backups in general are wise)
[03:28] <revofire> Can you walk me through it? I've used Linux a few times before but was always a newbie.
[03:28] <revofire> I'm on live cd 12.10
[03:29] <sacarlson> revofire: fresh install nothing to loose?  then a complete reinstall would be the easiest,  what method did you use to install it this time?
[03:29] <reisio> revofire: mmm, does that have the same version fo grub as the version (14?) you've installed?
[03:29] <reisio> no, a complete reinstall is not the easiest way to make grub find what it's looking for...
[03:30] <revofire> Well I can install 14.04 sure... but what if the error pops up later?
[03:30] <revofire> how can I find the version?
[03:30] <sacarlson> reisio: ya maybe the mbr will still mess up the fresh install?   I would think it would fix itself if you selected to erase the disk at install time
[03:31] <reisio> revofire: grub-install -v
[03:31] <reisio> sacarlson: I would think a script to update made by the same people who made the script to install from scratch would be of similar use
[03:31] <reisio> but that's irrelevant
[03:31] <reisio> you don't fix grub not finding what it's looking for by nuking from orbit, that's just silly :D
[03:32] <revofire> also I might have to add that I have no other partitions but this computer is in RAID 1 via Intel Rapid Storage and  it's been giving plenty problems to install linux then i reverted to installing 12.10 after opening the live cd and installing from there instead straight off. I didnt try with the 14.04 that method because well... It was a spur of t
[03:32] <revofire> he moment thing. I still can.
[03:32] <revofire> cd .
[03:32] <docente__> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL
[03:32] <AR45> !op docente__
[03:33] <revofire> it says: 1.99-21ubuntu3.16
[03:33] <crocket> Woorah
[03:33] <reisio> revofire: probably be okay then
[03:34] <revofire> whatcha mean?
[03:34] <docente_> HELP ME
[03:34] <docente_> AYUDENME
[03:35] <docente_> COMO ENCUENTRO LATINOS
[03:35] <revofire> by the way I got an error when updating for GRUB
[03:35] <reisio> docente_: capslock, no
[03:35] <AR45> docente_: ubuntu_esp
[03:35] <revofire> something about it failing to install or something?
[03:37] <revofire> reisio: so what do you suggest I do? Hard install 14.04 from the live cd (or try to) or try and fix it here and now?
[03:39] <sacarlson> revofire: so you never attempted to install direct from 14.04 live cd yet?
[03:40] <reisio> revofire: I was suggesting fixing it
[03:40] <sacarlson> reisio: yes and that attempt was tried
[03:40] <reisio> revofire: you can easily tell from the live OS whether the OS is installed or not; if GRUB is having a little problem, just fix it
[03:40] <reisio> sacarlson: mmm, was it? :p
[03:40] <revofire> oh no I mean I have no idea how to fix anything lol
[03:41] <revofire> I have not tried the 14.04 install from desktop live cd yet
[03:41] <reisio> revofire: :)
[03:41] <revofire> you will not believe the amount of errors I get installing ubuntu :=:(
[03:41] <revofire> I blame it on the RAID 1 but I need it
[03:41] <revofire> I'll try the live cd first to avoid giving you guys trouble. Let's see if we can't figure this out :)
[03:41] <reisio> revofire: pastebin your /etc/fstab, the output of lsblk -f, and your grub.cfg (find /boot -iname 'grub.cfg')
[03:41] <revofire> oh well okay :)
[03:42] <sacarlson> revofire: yes that must be the added complication the raid,  I do recall having similar problems on old versions of ubuntu with it not installing the mbr correctly on raids
[03:42] <revofire> I want to use this as a webserver so you can probably imagine how badly I need it :)
[03:42] <revofire> How do I pastebin the etc/fstab?
[03:43] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | revofire
[03:43] <reisio> revofire: not very badly?
[03:43] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:44] <ObrienDave> !pastebinit | revofire
[03:44] <reisio> revofire: use lsblk -f to find your / partition, mount it, then pastebinit
[03:44] <HewloThere> What's the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt=get update?
[03:44] <revofire> ahh
[03:44] <ObrienDave> apt=get will not work
[03:44] <HewloThere> apt-get ***
[03:44] <reisio> HewloThere: unfortunately, there is a difference :)
[03:44] <HewloThere> I see...
[03:45] <reisio> even know in English tne names are practically synonymous
[03:45] <reisio> even though, eben :p
[03:45] <ObrienDave> apt-get update updates repo information
[03:45] <HewloThere> Ahh...
[03:45] <reisio> s/names/word/, holy
[03:45] <sacarlson> HewloThere: I think apt-get update only updates the repository contents where as apt-get upgrade upgrades all the packages
[03:45] <ObrienDave> apt-get upgrade upgrades packages
[03:45] <HewloThere> Oh...
[03:45] <courtrm> huh
[03:45] <courtrm> what is this
[03:46] <courtrm> is this help for your computer
[03:46] <reisio> courtrm: kinda
[03:46] <ObrienDave> this is Ubuntu support
[03:46] <courtrm> wtf is this
[03:46] <HewloThere> How could one set up a mail server on Ubuntu without a FQDN?
[03:47] <ObrienDave> courtrm, no place for swearing, obfuscated or not
[03:47] <reisio> by not setting an fqdn
[03:47] <m{a}zel> fqdn?
[03:48] <HewloThere> Fully Qualified Domain Name
[03:48] <m{a}zel> ahh ok, thanks
[03:48] <m{a}zel> I was hoping at some point to be able to do DNS on here
[03:48] <m{a}zel> or at least at my home
[03:48] <m{a}zel> but that's a lot of work for a newbie
[03:48] <courtrm> i did not swear i said wtf get over it
[03:49] <m{a}zel> courtrm, only an idiot wouldn't know what you meant essentially
[03:50] <m{a}zel> thats like saying OMG..... now did I say... oh my god, or oh my goodness..
[03:50] <courtrm> right
[03:50] <xangua> please stop
[03:50] <m{a}zel> the point is they still know what you meant..
[03:50] <ObrienDave> m{a}zel, NOT quite the same analogy
[03:50] <ObrienDave> but thanks :)
[03:51] <courtrm> the fact that yall are being this annoying about it though..
[03:51] <ObrienDave> !guidelines | courtrm
[03:51] <courtrm> i am not about to click on that shit
[03:51] <rww> courtrm: "you should avoid any language which may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such language" ~ IRC Guidelines | "Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService" ~ channel join message
[03:51] <reisio> heh
[03:51] <ObrienDave> either follow them or go away
[03:51] <courtrm> i do what i want.
[03:52]  * rww sighs
[03:52] <rww> anyways, yes, this is a channel for Ubuntu technical support
[03:52] <HewloThere> What would I set this to http://i.imgur.com/3G4cr3m.png have my mail server on mydomain.com rather than subdomain.mydomain.com ?
[03:52] <courtrm> this is tech support?
[03:52] <courtrm> who helps here
[03:52] <HewloThere> courtrm, please leave.
[03:53] <rww> courtrm: volunteers
[03:53] <ObrienDave> most people do if they can
[03:53] <docente_> UN CANAL EN ESPAÑOL
[03:53] <rww> HewloThere: you'd set it to whatever your email addresses have aver @ by default
[03:53] <courtrm> with any computer problems
[03:53] <rww> !es | docente_
[03:53] <rww> courtrm: no, Ubuntu problems, as I said.
[03:53] <HewloThere> rww, I don't really understand...
[03:54] <courtrm> so only problems with this chat..
[03:54] <m{a}zel> ok, gone away again..
[03:54] <rww> HewloThere: You are setting up a mail server. This server will handle mail for one or more people. Put in that box the hostname part of these peoples' email addresses
[03:54] <rww> so if your mailserver handles mail for joe@example.com, james@example.com, and tony@example.com, put example.com
[03:54] <HewloThere> Oh... Right.
[03:55] <courtrm> if this is just for chatting to a bunch of fucking weirdos i am out of here. goodbye yall
[03:55] <ObrienDave> this is Official Ubuntu support. do you have an Ubuntu support issue?
[03:55] <ObrienDave> wow
[03:55]  * rww shrugs
[03:55] <ForTheWin> lubuntu, lxle, and xubuntu all failed to boot after installation, so i gave up and installed mint. I kept getting can't find UUID. Anyone know why?
[03:56] <revofire> reisio: I got pastebinit but I don't know how to work any of the commands. The last one with grub.cfg looked to be the easiest but when I did it it doesnt work
[03:56] <AR45> Hello.
[03:57] <sacarlson> ForTheWin: uuid I think that's the harddisk partition identificication.  how is the harddrive you installed it on conected to your computer?
[03:57] <ObrienDave> revofire, cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[03:57] <ObrienDave> paste the URl HERE
[03:57] <ObrienDave> URL here
[03:57] <rww> (pretty sure you don't need to use cat there and that pastebinit can take arguments)
[03:57] <crocket> Is it ok to allocate 1GB RAM to an ubuntu desktop VM?
[03:58] <crocket> I want to install ubuntu desktop 14.04.
[03:58] <ObrienDave> it still works ;P
[03:58] <revofire> ohhh
[03:58] <HewloThere> What does this mean? http://i.imgur.com/aLCRiE1.png
[03:58] <revofire> I was missing the | sign, I thought that was just for examples :)
[03:58] <daftykins> crocket: that'll be a struggle.
[03:58] <rww> HewloThere: it's the introduction text sent to clients when they connect to your server. it's not important.
[03:59] <HewloThere> Oh, okay.
[03:59] <revofire> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8562682/
[03:59] <ObrienDave> revofire, | is a pipe, it transfers output to the next command
[03:59] <sacarlson> crocket: yes I"ve gotten by with just 1G mem but if you can spare more 2G would be better
[04:00] <revofire> I see.
[04:00] <sacarlson> crocket: otherwise maybe your virtualbox install should be Lubuntu  that takes less resorces
[04:00] <revofire> lsblk -f says that there is no blk directory
[04:00] <HewloThere> : rww : If my mail server is hosted on a VPS, and I have a domain, what would I set this to? http://i.imgur.com/1t8foTh.png
[04:01] <ForTheWin> sacarlson: its internal hard drive
[04:01] <revofire> grub.cfg is also an empty document :(
[04:01] <rww> HewloThere: is your end goal to connect to this server, give it mail, and have it send that mail to the internet?
[04:01] <revofire> pastebin your /etc/fstab, the output of lsblk -f, and your grub.cfg (find /boot -iname 'grub.cfg') <<<< those are the things I have to pastebin but so far all I got was the first one.
[04:01] <MarkusDBX> Looking for the best videoeditor application, like to edit/convert some video going into html5 video tags.
[04:01] <sacarlson> ForTheWin: then I'm not sure why it wouldn't find it unless you manualy set the uuid
[04:01] <HewloThere> Umm... I think? I just want it to send and recieve mail.
[04:01] <rww> HewloThere: leave it blank
[04:02] <HewloThere> Alright.
[04:02] <ForTheWin> sacarlson: i did not manually set uuid. i dont know why
[04:02] <ObrienDave> revofire, fstab should look something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/8562696/
[04:03] <revofire> I didn't mount my filesystem
[04:03] <revofire> is that why?
[04:03] <revofire> how can I mount it.
[04:03] <HewloThere> : rww : Should I have # masquerade_domains = mail.example.com www.example.com !sub.dyndomain.com
[04:03] <HewloThere> # masquerade_exceptions = root ?
[04:03] <revofire> I don't know which drive to use. (and sorry for pressing enter so many times, I'm used to skype and not IRC as this is considered spamming)
[04:03] <rww> !postfix
[04:04] <rww> HewloThere: just use that ^
[04:04] <rww> half of these are options that work fine by default, so whatever guide you're using is going into way too much detail
[04:04] <sacarlson> ForTheWin: you should be able to see what disks are present with the command sudo blkid from a live cd boot or working system
[04:04] <HewloThere> It  is this http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#config-simple-mta
[04:04] <HewloThere> I set inet_interfaces to ipv4 and I don't have some of the things it says on it.
[04:06] <ForTheWin> sacarlson: i can see my sda7 partition with sudo blkid but when i boot it says cannot find uuid that belongs to sda7
[04:06] <sacarlson> ForTheWin: very strange
[04:08] <sacarlson> ForTheWin: I have no theory how that is posible,  can you mount sda7 on a working system?
[04:11] <ForTheWin> sacarlson: well i have already installed mint instead of ubuntu and its working now.  sorry i cant go back. thank you for helping. Just hoping to get some insight on why it happened
[04:11] <sacarlson> sudo mkdir /tmp/here; sudo mount - /dev/sda7 /tmp/here;  oh ok I love mint
[04:12] <HewloThere> Setting up a mail server is scary...
[04:13] <sacarlson> HewloThere: don't worry your not doing brain surgery,  no one will die
[04:13] <HewloThere> Yea, but it's scary. Sooo much configging to do.
[04:13] <HewloThere> I might just buy a managed service...
[04:14] <sacarlson> HewloThere: that's why I like mail.google.com to do it for me.  in fact I think at one point I redirected to google to setup the ssl stuf ended up being too much for me to bother with
[04:17] <snpresent> hello
[04:19] <snpresent> how is unity shell going?
[04:20] <sacarlson> snpresent: I prefer mate
 it need some acceleration
[04:21] <sacarlson> snpresent: mate has no acceleration?
[04:22] <sacarlson> snpresent: I thought that was a compiz thing
 maybe
[04:25] <BasicOSX> Just today several of my precise systems have thrown errors, “W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]” Anything going on with us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[04:25] <snpresent> anyway ,i believe Unity's design used my idea,but it dosen't matter, i love Unity
[04:26] <sacarlson> BasicOSX: I hate when that happens,  I assume there are mirrors you could use
[04:26] <BasicOSX> sacarlson: uk.archive.ubuntu.com works as expected
[04:27] <sacarlson> BasicOSX: cool, I wish it would auto use a mirror on failure
[04:27] <BasicOSX> guess I’m just want to confirm that the server the CDN handed me (91.189.91.15) is the problem and not my system
[04:28] <sacarlson> BasicOSX: I have had times that others in different location could reach an ip that I could not, but that is rare
[04:28] <BasicOSX> sacarlson: thanks for the help, appreciate it
[04:29] <squinty> BasicOSX:  test the link with your web browser.  seems to work ok here when I try it
[04:29] <BasicOSX> squinty: yar, that’s why I’m confused
[04:29] <sacarlson> BasicOSX: also for your info I also get error 404 at that link
[04:30] <squinty> try again without the Packages.
[04:30] <squinty> sacarlson: ^^
[04:30] <BasicOSX> seems certain servers in the 91.189.91.x block sporadically return 404
[04:30] <BasicOSX> 91.189.91.13 is doing it down but 91.189.91.15 is ok
[04:31] <BasicOSX> 91.189.91.13 is doing it now but 91.189.91.15 is ok
[04:31] <sacarlson> squinty: BasicOSX: yes I can reach http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/multiverse/binary-amd64/  ok
[04:35] <snpresent> and i test win10 work fine
[04:36] <cfhowlett> snpresent, this is *ubuntu* support.  please discuss other matters in #ubuntu-offtopic
 sure
[04:44] <AR45> Does anyone know how to add sublime text commands to the terminal on ubuntu?
[04:45] <ObrienDave> "sublime text commands"???
[04:48] <prime2_> @seach unbored larsen
[04:48] <prime2_> oops sorry
[04:57] <blackyboy1> Hi everyone, if iam writing a file in /var/www/ i want to write from sysadmin user but same time it want to be in the group of www-data which command we need to use, before long back i have used that now i forgot will any one guide me here.
[04:57] <blackyboy1> my files want to be like sysadmin:www-data
[05:04] <narbeh> someone gave me snmp string config. is that v2 or v3 ?
[05:06] <The_Woodsman> Anyone know why a shell script called, for instance 'runall' would give me the error 'command not found' even when i'm in the same directory?
[05:06] <ObrienDave> is it set to be executable?
[05:06] <The_Woodsman> should be, let me check real quick
[05:07] <The_Woodsman> yes
[05:07] <daftykins> you know you need to type "./blah" ?
[05:07] <daftykins> if /path/to/blah isn't in your PATH variable
[05:08] <The_Woodsman> i did that, i was given the error "/bin/csh: bad interpreter: no such file or directory"
[05:08] <daftykins> The_Woodsman: is csh the designated shell the script calls to run?
[05:09] <The_Woodsman> daftykins: i'm actually not sure - i haven't changed any of the settings that ubuntu 14.04 uses by default, does it usually use bash?
[05:09] <daftykins> yes
[05:10] <daftykins> what shebang does the script have?
[05:10] <The_Woodsman> daftykins: okay so i'm in the wrong type of shell, then, right?
[05:10] <The_Woodsman> daftykins, #!/bin/csh
[05:10] <The_Woodsman> daftykins, so i guess that answers it
[05:10] <daftykins> it might be that csh isn't installed
[05:10] <daftykins> !info csh
[05:10] <daftykins> optional ^
[05:10] <daftykins> The_Woodsman: apt-get install csh - then it should run :)
[05:11] <The_Woodsman> daftykins, cool, thanks a bunch
[05:11] <daftykins> np
[05:22] <swift110110> Hey
[05:22] <ObrienDave> swift110110, Greetings & Welcome
[05:22] <swift110110> Hey thanks
[05:29] <pam> Hey folks...
[05:30] <pam> I'm trying to set it up so I can right click on a .wav file and convert it to an mp3.  I know I've done this before...just can't remember how
[05:32] <sacarlson> pam: I'm guessing a nuatilus adition
[05:32] <loa> pam, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/nautilus-actions/
[05:32] <rieit> hello
[05:32] <rieit> asll
[05:32] <naveenvalecha> #drupal
[05:36] <AR45> How do I enable the testing repository in ubuntu?
[05:37] <ObrienDave> software & sources, check box for "proposed"
[05:38] <ObrienDave> software & updates
[05:38] <AR45> I don't have any GUI called software & updates
[05:38]  * ObrienDave uses Xubuntu. yours might be named differently
[05:40] <AR45> Do you have them enabled ObrienDave?
[05:40] <AR45> If so go into sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list and pastebin that to me please?
[05:40] <AR45> deb http://ubuntu.mirror.constant.com/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:40] <AR45> Is that it?
[05:42] <ObrienDave> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-proposed universe multiverse main restricted
[05:43] <AR45> ObrienDave: This is basically the testing repo of debian correct?
[05:43] <ObrienDave> no, of ubuntu
[05:43] <AR45> ObrienDave: Will it break? o_o
[05:44] <ObrienDave> break debian?
[05:45] <sickblobs> why is xrandr missing on my PC?
[05:45] <ObrienDave> it's not recommended for stability reasons
[05:45] <sickblobs> How to install it ?
[05:45] <AR45> sudo apt-get install xrandr sickblobs?
[05:45] <sickblobs> AR45, it is not there in the repos
[05:46] <ObrienDave> !info xrandr
[05:46] <sickblobs> ObrienDave, heh
[05:46] <ObrienDave> !info arandr
[05:46] <sickblobs> BUSTED!
[05:46] <sickblobs> ObrienDave, oh
[05:46] <rgenito> if i am running 64-bit ubuntu, and i need "lib gcc" ... do i apt-get install lib32gcc1 ?
[05:46] <AR45> sickblobs: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libxrandr-dev
[05:47] <rgenito> ...or is that just a bad idea?
[05:47] <rgenito> after all, the amd drivers tell me to install lib32gcc1 @.@
[05:47] <sickblobs> AR45, http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Optimus/
[05:47] <sickblobs> what I want to do this
[05:47] <sickblobs> but it is not possible I think
[05:48] <AR45> sickblobs: ofc it is :D
[05:49] <sickblobs> AR45, but xrandr is not installed :[
[05:49] <ObrienDave> install arandr
[05:49] <ObrienDave> !info randr
[05:54] <bobbby> ubuntu 14 software updater does not ask for password when installing updates. How can i change that ?
[05:57] <ubuntu-kylin_> bobbby, if you only have a single user, then that user is the root user.  best practice is to make a low privilege account for everyday use and use the root user only for system maintenance.
[05:58] <geirha1> bobbby: If you've recently (like 10-15 minutes ago) entered the password to do another administrative task, it remembers that and doesn't ask you again
[05:59] <ubuntu-kylin_> bobbby, this too ^^^
[06:04] <bobbby> thank you
[06:14] <Sunstream> anyone getting Self2Wan imcp type b attacks from 64.94.179 x(various like .4 .12 .48 .48 etc?
[06:22] <pam> I'm trying to add a script to my context menu to convert wav's to mp3s from this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1431668
[06:22] <pam> For some reason its not working...terminal is asking me to restart nautilus..I do it, and nothing happens
[06:27] <nevermoreraven> I have an issue with login and decrypting the home folder
[06:27] <nevermoreraven> how do I write a bug report that is very detailed for this issue?
[06:27] <somsip> !bug | nevermoreraven
[06:28] <nevermoreraven> how do I know what package it is?
[06:28] <somsip> nevermoreraven: what is the real problem?
[06:29] <nevermoreraven> when I login first time my home folder is not decrypted
[06:29] <nevermoreraven> then I sign out and login again and it solves the problem
[06:31] <somsip> !find ecrypts-setup-private
[06:32] <somsip> !find cryptsetup
[06:32] <somsip> !info cryptsetup
[06:32] <somsip> nevermoreraven: I'd suggest its that last one
[06:34] <pam> I'm trying to add a script to my context menu to convert wav's to mp3s from this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1431668
[06:34] <pam> For some reason its not working...terminal is asking me to restart nautilus..I do it, and nothing happens
[06:37] <nevermoreraven> pam there is winff
[06:40] <sickblobs> guys is Offloading 3D in nouveau driver (Prime) done automatically ?
[06:42] <pam> nevermoreraven: what is winff?
[06:42] <pam> nevermoreraven: I want something that converts audio files that I can access by right clicking a wav file and converting it from the menu
[06:43] <crocket> How can I obtain mod_proxy_wstunnel on ubuntu 12.04?
[06:43] <pofderm> mmmmh I'm pretty sure this is feasible with Python
[06:43] <pofderm> not the proxy thing, the format one
[06:46] <nevermoreraven> winff is a program that converts many formats pam
[06:47] <rusty_> Hello, I'm rusty and would like to know if I could obtain a registration code?
[06:53] <pofderm> registration code? why?
[06:54] <pam>  I'm trying to add a script to my context menu to convert wav's to mp3s from this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143166    For some reason its not working...terminal is asking me to restart nautilus..I do it, and nothing happens
[06:55] <pofderm> restarted session?
[06:55] <pofderm> what is your desktop manager?
[06:56] <pam> unity I think
[06:56] <pofderm> the one with icons on your left? yes, this is Unity
[06:57] <pam> yep
[06:57] <pam> apparently its a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audio-convert/+bug/130055
[07:00] <pofderm> package is nautilus-script-audio-convert ?
[07:00] <vahid> hi all
[07:00] <pofderm> hi
[07:00] <vahid> how login debian int ty1
[07:01] <pofderm> just type your username and your password
[07:01] <vahid> how login debian intty1
[07:01] <pofderm> login: johndoe
[07:01] <pofderm> password: pass123
[07:01] <pofderm> like that
[07:01] <pam> pofderm: yep
[07:01] <vahid> but error is low......
[07:01] <pofderm> what do you mean by "low"?
[07:02] <vahid> i dont now
[07:02] <pofderm> have you numeric characters in your password that you are trying to type with numerical keyboard?
[07:04] <rgenito> so eh
[07:04] <rgenito> anyone here ever have a similar issue to this...?
[07:04] <rgenito> when i rotate my 2nd monitor counter clockwise... the first monitor goes... retarded
[07:05] <pam> pofderm: any idea what I can do?  This is starting to get very frustrating
[07:05] <pofderm> pam no, it doesn't work for me either
[07:06] <vahid> back box bether or debian?
[07:07] <vahid> pof??
[07:07] <pofderm> weren't you trying to log onto tty1 with Debian?
[07:07] <vahid> no is debian install virtual box not finishid
[07:08] <pofderm> What are you trying to achieve?
[07:08] <Mathisen> vahid what is your native language?
[07:08] <vahid> my lan persian
[07:08] <pam> argh!  this is so damn annoying
[07:09] <cfhowlett> !farsi
[07:09] <vahid> see it bot not workid
[07:09] <cfhowlett> vahid, debian = #debian channel.  no help here.  vritualbox = #vbox
[07:10] <vahid> virtuall install grub boot loader wait
[07:10] <Mathisen> hehe i cant understand mutch of that... :)
[07:10] <cfhowlett> vahid, we cannot help you with debian.  ask in #debian
[07:10] <vahid> not chanel for back box
[07:10] <pofderm> or connect to irc.autistici.org (backbox IRC)
[07:10] <pofderm> they have an IRC server
[07:11] <pofderm> channel is #backbox
[07:11] <cfhowlett> vahid, this is ubuntu.   not back box.   not debian.
[07:11] <vahid> is not server for back box
[07:11] <cfhowlett> vahid, open a terminal?
[07:11] <pofderm> ??
[07:11] <pofderm> " Welcome to the BackBox Linux official IRC channel (#backbox on irc.autistici.org) - http://www.backbox.org"
[07:12] <vahid> back box is ubuntu or deb?????????
[07:12] <pofderm> neither
[07:12] <cfhowlett> pofderm, backbox is NOT ubuntu.  can't help you.
[07:13] <vahid> ubnutu cant help me debian cant help me?????????????/
[07:13] <pofderm> dude, connect to Back Box IRC
[07:13] <cfhowlett> vahid, what does this say in your terminal?          cat /etc/issue
[07:14] <vahid> debian install in virtual how loging it?
[07:14] <cfhowlett> vahid, answer the question.  open a terminal.
[07:14] <cfhowlett> vahid, type in       cat /etc/issue               and show us the result.
[07:14] <vahid> wait
[07:15] <pam> argh!!!!!!!
[07:15] <vahid> debian gnu/linux7 debian tty1
[07:15] <vahid> debian login: -
[07:15] <vahid> and
[07:15] <cfhowlett> vahid OK>  you are in the wrong channel.  this is ubuntu.  we do NOT do debian here.  go to #debian
[07:16] <vahid> com on
[07:16] <cfhowlett> vahid, it is channel policy.  debian does debian.  ubuntu does not.
[07:16] <vahid> imgo debian chanel?
[07:17] <cfhowlett> vahid, #debian       is the channel for you.
[07:17] <pam> I'm wondering if anyone can help me to get a script in nautilus to show up..driving me bonkers!
[07:17] <nevermoreraven> what is the difference between system freeze and system crash?
[07:20] <MeRodent> been too long since I used xchat - can anyone tell me where the option to hide join/quits is?
[07:20] <cfhowlett> MeRodent, depends on your irc client
[07:20] <bubbasaures> MeRodent, right click settings-preferences
[07:20] <MeRodent> xchat - ubuntu
[07:20] <Mathisen> MeRodent http://askubuntu.com/questions/356054/xchat-how-to-hide-join-leave-messages
[07:21] <vahid> im back how login debian in tty1
[07:21] <cfhowlett> MeRodent, right click on the channel > settings
[07:21] <vahid> hhaallloooo
[07:21] <cfhowlett> vahid, we *will* *not* support debian here.  sorry.
[07:21] <cfhowlett> !topic > vahid
[07:21] <vahid> debian chanel not nobady
[07:22] <MeRodent> thanks guys
[07:22] <pofderm> I guess system freeze is by far more frustrating than system crash as you don't know what happened
[07:22] <boaz_> Linux beginner question here: I've installed Eclipse with the Android ADT for the purpose of developing android apps. I haven't used apt-get etc, but downloaded a zip directly from the Android develop site. What do I need to do in order to see it in Gnome desktop env (e.g. when pressing the super button)? I'm on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS.
[07:23] <pofderm> I think this has to do with some menu entries
[07:23] <vahid> how login debian intty1
[07:23] <boaz_> (I'm able to boot Eclipse directly from the terminal)
[07:23] <cfhowlett> boaz_, you have ubuntu or gnome - ubuntu
[07:23] <vahid> hhhhhhhhheeeeeeeellllllllppppppppp
[07:23] <cfhowlett> vahid, same question, same answer.  ask #debian
[07:23] <FilthyMacNasty> vahid what did you break tonight?
[07:24] <vahid> debian not human
[07:24] <boaz_> Not sure I understand the question. How do I check?
[07:25] <cfhowlett> boaz_, sorry, best I let someone else try your query.  I'm on xubuntu, so I don't get the dash type stuff.
[07:25] <vahid> in masage cannot send to channel
[07:26] <vahid> how login debian in tty1
[07:26] <cfhowlett> vahid, you ARE sending to ubuntu channel.  please send to debian channel.
[07:26] <pam> chhowlett: can you let me know if you can get this to work?
[07:26] <vahid> debian login
[07:26] <boaz_> Thanks. I don't have the Dash stuff as well. I'm using the Gnome desktop environment, not Unity (at least I think I am).
[07:26] <cfhowlett> pam missed your question?  get what to work.
[07:27] <cfhowlett> boaz_, might be better asked in the ubuntugnome channel ???
[07:27] <Mathisen> vahid stop spamming, and please what language do you speak
[07:27] <boaz_> I will try there, thanks.
[07:28] <Mathisen> France ?
[07:28] <vahid> login debian and in masage permitted by applicable law
[07:28] <Han_> Hallooo everybody
[07:29] <FilthyMacNasty> the #debian people are evil mean spirited fanbois if you mention ubuntu
[07:29] <Han_> apakah adakah user dari indonesia??
[07:29] <cfhowlett> !indonesian | Han_,
[07:37] <pam> cfhowlett: I'm trying to add a nautilus script that will allow me to convert wav files to mp3s with a right click...its not installing...
[07:38] <pam> apparently there is a known bug..and I want to figure out how to get this damn thing working!
[07:38] <cfhowlett> pam, hmm.  I understand the concept but I've never done same.  sorry.  interesting idea though  :)
[07:39] <geirha> pam: what do you mean, not installing?
[07:43] <Garp> Hi.
[07:43] <Fornax96> Hello
[07:45] <Garp> Question: Just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and stepped upon that problem : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/1328689 any workaround? Thanks.
[07:48] <Garp> (... ? )
[07:49] <pam> geirha: its simply not installing the script..asking me to restart nautilus.  Did that numerous times.  Didn't do anything
[07:50] <Saw> hi, is there a way to disable the search button at all at ubuntu 14.04 LTS (desktop) ?
[07:53] <drlimbo> good morning
[07:54] <drlimbo> whats the best way to connect to ubuntu desktop from osx with a GUI
[07:54] <drlimbo> VNC is reeealy slow =(
[07:54] <drlimbo> is there a faster way
[07:56] <GrayShade> I have a SMB share that I'm accessing over a PPTP VPN. This worked fine until I changed the VPN server software. Right now, I can mount my share with mount -t cifs .., but when I try to access it from Nautilus, I get a "Connection timed out" message. Any hints? (Ubuntu 14.04)
[07:57] <jargon> how do i fix this: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 90BD7EACED8E640A Launchpad PPA for Doug McMahon
[07:57] <jargon> ?
[07:57] <Garp> drlimbo: what is the connection speed? VNC has a lot of quality rendering and protocols to adapt to different bitrates
[07:58] <drlimbo> Garp: is running over VPN what isnt that fast
[07:58] <drlimbo> but it transfers a loot of data - after maybe 3 minutes it transfered around 50mb traffic
[07:59] <Garp> drlimbo: so, about 2Mb/s ?
[08:00] <drlimbo> could be possible Garp
[08:00] <drlimbo> i can try to make a speedtest
[08:02] <Garp> drlimbo: "According to the makers of VNC, a 33 kilobits-per-second (kbps) connection is adequate for accessing computers with very simple graphics at a reduced frame rate and resolution. Increasing the bandwidth to 128 kbps increases the frame rate, but you should have at least 1 megabit-per-second (mbit) connection for complex graphics at reduced quality or simple images in full color.
[08:02] <Garp> A very fast 100mbit connection provides a seamless user experience. You can access another computer just as if you were sitting in front of it."
[08:02] <Garp> http://www.ehow.com/list_7408003_vnc-bandwidth-requirements.html
[08:03] <drlimbo> mh, i think the transfer-rate isn't the problem - connection to osx over the same connection (VPN) works very well and fast
[08:03] <drlimbo> it looks for the compression / quality-settings arent working on ubuntu and it transfers the "full quality screen"
[08:04] <Garp> So 2Mb/s should be enough to work on simple tasks, but likely not enough for games or even graphic editing (gimp and such)
[08:05] <drlimbo> nono, i just want to put some files around and change some settings - no video, no games, nothing complex
[08:05] <Garp> drlimbo: I had problems with vnc client wrongly assuming fast local transfer because conecting to localhost (but in fact ssh tunnel redirection)
[08:05] <msdws> Hey
[08:06] <drlimbo> ah, thats maybe possible
[08:06] <drlimbo> but im connection over Hamachi VPN
[08:06] <msdws> I've got a question
[08:06] <Garp> drlimbo: usually you can configure the client with options to specify teh quality you want
[08:06] <msdws> Why doeant 14.4 accept vnc??
[08:06] <Garp> !sh
[08:07] <drlimbo> yes i know Garp - but some things are much easier with a GUI
[08:09] <Garp> drlimbo: I usually use: vncviewer -depth 16 -compresslevel 9 -quality 5 -encoding Tight localhost:5901
[08:10] <avelldiroll> drlimbo: you could try freeNX/Nomachine (i don't know if there is a port to macosx though), or try forks like x2go (which has a port to macosx)
[08:11] <avelldiroll> drlimbo: i don't know any vnc client gui that handle well all the quality options of VNC, and it is quite easy to write your own command line with minimal visual options
[08:18] <GrayShade> fwiw, enabling "broadcast support" on the pptp server did the trick
[08:20] <helmut_> hi
[08:21] <msdws> Hey
[08:26] <pam> damnit!
[08:28] <sacarlson> pam: can you see the script at the location ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts ?
[08:28] <sacarlson> pam: oh that's probly the wrong directory
[08:28] <Han_> what's channel for kali linux?
[08:29] <pam> Yes I can see it there...its just not loading up in the menu when I right click the mouse
[08:29] <sacarlson> pam: so you explored there with nautilus?
[08:30] <pam> what do you mean?
[08:31] <sacarlson> pam: you've looked at the  dir ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts with nautilus so it has seen the dir
[08:32] <sacarlson> pam: also is the script set with permision to exicute?   ls -l  ;
[08:33] <pam> sacarlson: not sure
[08:38] <pam> sacarlson: how do I do that?
[08:39] <pam> sacarlson: There is a known bug with this...Need to find out how to get this working https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audio-convert/+bug/130055
[08:39] <sacarlson> you can right click the file in nautilus and see file properties or cd /path/of/file;  ls -l
[08:40] <Garp> Question (same): I just installed 14.04 and got the problem described there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/1328689 . In a few words: ecryptfs-migrate-home (or adduser --encrypt-home) doesnt works and fail with "ERROR: Could not mount". It seems that the needed keys are not added to the kernel keyring. Any known workaround? Thanks.
[08:41] <sacarlson> pam:  oh ok did you try that then?  nautilus-script-manager enable ConvertAudioFile
[08:44] <pam> sacarlson: yes...a few times...
[08:44] <sacarlson> Garp: I personally use the program package cryptkeeper that uses the same ecrypt-fs
[08:45] <Garp> sacarlson: but that's for a directory, right, not for the whole home ?
[08:45] <sacarlson> pam: are there any added scripts in nautilus now that do work?
[08:45] <pam> no...
[08:46] <pam> Its the only one I've installed
[08:46] <pam> Have you read this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audio-convert/+bug/130055
[08:46] <sacarlson> Garp:  yes I just enrypt directories I need
[08:47] <Garp> sacarlson: That might be a workaround until a better solution, thanks.
[08:47] <sacarlson> pam: I wouldn't think it required but maybe sudo nautilus-script-manager enable ConvertAudioFile
[08:48] <pam> nope
[08:49] <pam> I've tried that...have you read about the bug?
[08:49] <sacarlson> pam: only the top part
[08:49] <nevermoreraven> pam winff is a media converter that supports nearly every format
[08:50] <pam> nevermoreraven: can I use it by right clicking the file and converting it directly from the context menu?
[08:50] <sacarlson> pam: oh that bug is dated like 2007
[08:51] <nevermoreraven> don't think so pam
[08:51] <pam> sacrlson: apparently its still a problem.  Someone else in here tried to install it and had the same problem
[08:54] <worksaft2> Hej, I'm having problems with SSH. A few days ago, I was able to connect from X to Y without any problems. I'm connecting from Win7 and Putty or Filezilla to a Ubuntu 14.04 machine. The behaviour is rather odd. Sometimes it tells me right away that the connection was refused. Other times I succeed in connecting and am able to use it without limitations, and then I get kicked out of the session at a random time. I have changed nothi
[08:58] <avelldiroll> worksaft2: si your connection reliable, i.e., do you get packet losses when you try to ping the server for extensive times ?
[08:59] <sacarlson> pam: also assume you tried logout and login to your ubuntu account
[09:02] <worksaft2> avelldiroll: Okay, I've been so hung up on the software side that I haven't actually thought of how reliable the link is.
[09:03] <worksaft2> avelldiroll: And of course, now it doesn't fail as quickly as I want it to while I'm pinging the machine. Sigh. I'll give it some more time.
[09:05] <avelldiroll> worksaft2: yeah, having a reproducible failing test is often the hardest thing to gather before being able to think for a solution, good luck
[09:05] <aLeSD> hi all
[09:05] <aLeSD> I am trying to install the guest addiction for vmware in myh ubuntu
[09:06] <aLeSD> I installed open-vm-tools ... but There's no vmhgfs in ...
[09:06] <aLeSD> where I can find it ?
[09:07] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:07] <dawidd6> Hi
[09:07] <aLeSD> hi
[09:18] <Garp> Question: What represent the "virtual" memory of a process on a "top" output? Does it have any clear meaning? Because i sometimes have quite huge values...
[09:18] <Garp> Thanks.
[09:20] <Garp> I can read some informations about that. But a pricess that claim 300GB of VIRT, what can be the reason ?
[09:20] <Garp> (my RAM is significantly lower than that)
[09:21] <linuu> hi i try to login into xchat in ubuntu pc but i could not able to login, i got the below log while trying to login in freenode channel  "Looking up irc.freenode.net * Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?  Cycling to next server in FreeNode... * Disconnected ()." can you tell what is the issues
[09:22] <Garp> linuu: are other servers working?
[09:23] <Garp> Garp : first guess would be that you have a network problem on that machine.
[09:23] <linuu> Garp no other also the same issues.
[09:23] <andrewvos> Any ideas how I can temporarily stop EC2 instances in the same security group from access other instances in the same group?
[09:24] <andrewvos> I mean blocking internal ip addresses
[09:24] <Garp> linuu : is the network otherwise fine ? Eg can you browse the web from that PC ?
[09:24] <somsip> andrewvos: use iptables to drop connections from those IPs. though if you have a lot to do, it might be a bit messy
[09:25] <linuu> Garp yes i could use internet in my pc and i could browse.
[09:25] <sickblobs> how to enable/disable a daemon from starting up during boot ?
[09:26] <sickblobs> what is command ?
[09:26] <sickblobs> It is systemctl disable DAEMON in arch
[09:27] <Garp> linuu : what does "host irc.freenode.net" answers (in a console)
[09:27] <aLeSD> is it possible to install a previous kernel version ?
[09:29] <lolmaus> When i use my laptop at work, DNS resolution fails constantly: it just won't resolve, immediately reporting a failed attempt. Sometimes i have to refresh the page several times in a row in order to get it loaded. This doesn't happen to my colleagues. We use WiFi with DHCP. I added Google DNS servers in the network manager but it didn't help. I'll appreciate any suggestions on investigating this issue.
[09:29] <linuu> it shows "irc.freenode.net mail is handled by 10 vnarelay02.xxxxcorp.ad.yyyyyy.com."  ( xxxx and yyyyyy is our corporation names)
[09:30] <andrewvos> somsip: Thanks, know any good docs for iptables? I've never really learned it
[09:31] <sacarlson> sickblobs: I think one possible method would be this http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[09:31] <linuu> Garp, it shows "irc.freenode.net mail is handled by 10 vnarelay02.xxxxcorp.ad.yyyyyy.com."  ( xxxx and yyyyyy is our corporation names)
[09:31] <somsip> andrewvos: I use this iptables -A INPUT  -s 1.2.3.4 -j DROP from here http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-iptables-drop/
[09:32] <sacarlson> sickblobs: but I think it might also depend on if the service is setup with /etc/init  or /etc/init.d
[09:33] <cutera> hi
[09:33] <sickblobs> sacarlson, no I got it
[09:33] <sickblobs> update-rc.d <service> enable|disable
[09:33] <sickblobs> from root
[09:33] <cutera> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:34] <andrewvos> somsip: Thanks!
[09:34] <somsip> andrewvos: np
[09:34] <Dreaman> http://s27.postimg.org/bbsb0bkk3/Screenshot_from_2014_10_15_12_32_10.png
[09:39] <m-skorupski_> hi
[09:50] <val2> but im using fedora
[09:50] <w3rd_> when i attempt apt-get update/upgrade
[09:51] <w3rd_> fetch fails as a result of EOL
[09:52] <w3rd_> so i need to update the repo list, or can i ?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> val2, this is ubuntu.  ask #fedora for fedora support.
[09:52] <val2> #fedora no body
[09:52] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, as I understand it, your new source list must match the version you are attempting to upgrade to.  expect breakage as you move from 8.04 to 14.04
[09:52] <w3rd_> right
[09:52] <val2> i want 2 share my program ,but i dont konw how 2 make a install pack
[09:52] <w3rd_> is there anyway just to update to get to 8.10
[09:52] <cfhowlett> val2, this channel doesn't support fedora.  sorry.
[09:52] <w3rd_> then from 8.10 to 10.04
[09:52] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, yes you can directly (end of life) upgrade the LTS versions.
[09:52] <val2> my program can runing on ubuntu 2
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !packaging | val2,
[09:52] <w3rd_> right, but what source do i need to add to sources.list in order to access these new files
[09:53] <w3rd_> im constantly getting fetch errors
[09:53] <val2> ok
[09:53] <val2> thanks 2 u
[09:53] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, of course.  those repos are long since retired.
[09:53] <sacarlson> w3rd_: maybe version 8 is no longer supported?
[09:54] <w3rd_> ya its not
[09:54] <w3rd_> its EOL
[09:54] <val2> where r u from?
[09:54] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:54] <cfhowlett> Please make sure you have the following sources.list, change CODENAME to your release, e.g. breezy.
[09:54] <cfhowlett> val2, we're all from ubuntu.
[09:54] <w3rd_> cfhowlett: what im asking is
[09:54] <w3rd_> what repo do i add?
[09:54] <sacarlson> w3rd_: ya End Of Life
[09:55] <val2> r u hate Chinese?
[09:55] <sacarlson> w3rd_: I would do a reinstall on a different partition.  just backup the files you need and move them to the new version
[09:55] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, repo to add?  according to the wiki, you update your sources to the target version and then do the install.
[09:55] <w3rd_> ahh
[09:55] <w3rd_> alright
[09:55] <val2> alright ?
[09:56] <val2> do u know im a Chinese!
[09:56] <sacarlson> w3rd_: it will just break the install, when you upgrade normaly you upgrade one version at a time
[09:56] <w3rd_> val2: not meant for you
[09:56] <cfhowlett> !cn | val2,
[09:56] <w3rd_> right
[09:56] <w3rd_> im going to go to 10 first and see how it goes
[09:56] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, 10.04         LTS
[09:56] <w3rd_> yep
[09:56] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, good luck with that /no sarcasm/
[09:57] <w3rd_> thx
[09:57] <val2> ok see u
[09:57] <w3rd_> appreciate the guidance
[09:57] <sacarlson> w3rd_: what do you now run on this version 8 system?
[09:57] <w3rd_> nothing
[09:57] <val2> w3rd_: see u
[09:57] <w3rd_> its just a desktp
[09:57] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, consider upgrading slighty more often next time   :)
[09:58] <w3rd_> not my system
[09:58] <w3rd_> just was given to me
[09:58] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, free puter?  NICE!
[09:58] <sacarlson> w3rd_: then it will take much more time to upgrade than just install anew,  like 15 minutes or less to install fresh.  otherwise each step will take just as long or longer
[09:58] <w3rd_> cfhowlett: yeppers
[09:58] <w3rd_> sacarison: again, i dont have a working cdrom
[09:58] <w3rd_> so this is the only option
[09:59] <cfhowlett> w3rd_, no usb boot support?
[09:59] <w3rd_> nope
[09:59] <w3rd_> older lptp
[09:59] <w3rd_> bios doesnt support
[09:59] <sacarlson> w3rd_: oh but you must have a usb flash drive that's 4G that you can boot from?
[09:59] <w3rd_> i do
[09:59] <w3rd_> but if the bios doesnt support
[09:59] <w3rd_> then you arent booting from it
[10:00] <sacarlson> w3rd_: other option for that is plop program that can boot from cd or many other to boot usb
[10:01] <sacarlson> w3rd_: I guess that old a system grub can't install iso files
[10:01] <w3rd_> its possible
[10:01] <w3rd_> there is that new app that allows you to partition the drive
[10:01] <w3rd_> but i would need to blow away a disk
[10:01] <w3rd_> currently dont have any blank disks
[10:01] <w3rd_> so im screwed on that front as well
[10:02] <w3rd_> anyway.. thanks for all the logic
[10:08] <OOPMan> Hey guys, does anyone have any experience using Compass Style on ubuntu?
[10:16] <sgs> gunner
[10:17] <Guest40136> Hello World
[10:20] <welovfree> mkdir essai/dirB/dir1 can this command create embed directories?
[10:21] <sgs_> hi
[10:21] <welovfree> HELLO
[10:26] <MasterOfDisaster> welovfree: 'man mkdir' says it's 'mkdir -p /foo/bar/baz'
[10:35] <Blaster> My mouse won't click, what should I do?
[10:36] <cfhowlett_> Mac question: can Mac's run a live ubuntu session?  I've only seen installation instructions ...
[10:38] <WilliamDotAT> cfhowlett_, likely
[10:38] <cfhowlett_> WilliamDotAT, I was rather hoping for a more definitive response ... :)   thank you, though.
[10:39] <WilliamDotAT> well
[10:39] <WilliamDotAT> what Mac?
[10:39] <WilliamDotAT> Mac pro 1,1? no.
[10:39] <WilliamDotAT> Any macbook pro? very likely
[10:39] <cfhowlett_> WilliamDotAT, mac air?
[10:39] <WilliamDotAT> im not sure if it can boot live from USB
[10:39] <WilliamDotAT> as it is EFI
[10:39] <WilliamDotAT> but i know it can boot live or install from an external CD drive
[10:39] <cfhowlett_> WilliamDotAT, ahhhh reallly?!
[10:40] <WilliamDotAT> i cant tell you however how well live works without additional drivers
[10:40] <WilliamDotAT> considering Apple is mainly Intel stock hardware
[10:40] <WilliamDotAT> chances are good it works at least ok
[10:40] <WilliamDotAT> no idea about Thunderbolt though
[10:41] <cfhowlett_> WilliamDotAT, dern.  my 2009 Dell is showing its age, and I've been considering my options:  mac air, lenovo x1 carbon or dell m3800.  I tested the x1 at the local lenovo store and everything worked.
[10:42] <WilliamDotAT> the MBA is essentially fully Intel
[10:42] <WilliamDotAT> Chipset, CPU, GPU
[10:42] <WilliamDotAT> the MBPs have AMD cards sometimes which can be annoying
[10:42] <WilliamDotAT> it should work fine
[10:42] <freezer> MBP also have nvidia
[10:42] <WilliamDotAT> yea
[10:42] <cfhowlett_> WilliamDotAT, I saw.  sadly, it seems a few components, e.g. isight, are not linux friendly.
[10:42] <WilliamDotAT> depends on series
[10:43] <WilliamDotAT> yea
[10:43] <WilliamDotAT> i dont think the function keys work either
[10:43] <freezer> mine has nVIDIA and DP/HDMI soldered to it
[10:43] <WilliamDotAT> and the mouse needs a PS2 driver
[10:43] <freezer> so external displays don't work @ Linux
[10:43] <WilliamDotAT> it switches to the Intel i think
[10:43] <cfhowlett_> ah yes, hard solder makes it more difficult to upgrade
[10:43] <WilliamDotAT> if you run linux
[10:43] <freezer> unless there's NVIDIA selected
[10:43] <WilliamDotAT> at least my MBP does
[10:43] <WilliamDotAT> 2012, first with TB
[10:43] <freezer> you can set in MacOS which GPU to use for other OS
[10:44] <freezer> but looks like you can't use both
[10:44] <freezer> this is MBP late 2013
[10:44] <WilliamDotAT> for linux i would not buy AMD anyway
[10:44] <sacarlson> pam: I'm not sure you would be interested but I accedently got your audio-convert to work using caja filemanager that seems to auto pickup the installed nautilus scripts
[10:44] <cfhowlett_> WilliamDotAT, exactly!
[10:45] <WilliamDotAT> i only have AMD GPUs though
[10:45] <WilliamDotAT> so im forced to use windows mainly
[10:45] <cfhowlett_> pam, sacarlson has sorted your query!
[10:45] <sacarlson> cfhowlett_: cool
[10:54] <nisha> hiiiiiiiii rani
[10:55] <Skutov> So could anyone give me a hand setting up my laptop to act as a router? I've been following a couple of guides but haven't had much luck getting it to allow internet access to the devices behind it.
[10:56] <bazhang> !ics | Skutov
[10:59] <sacarlson> Skutov: or if you want to share your internet and get paid for it you can experiment with this https://github.com/sacarlson/mini-isp.debpackage
[11:01] <Skutov> bazhang, Thanks for the link but I've alerady gone through steps in various guides like that and am still not able to get the connection working.
[11:02] <Skutov> sacarlson, While it's not what I'm trying to do at the moment that does look interesting and I think I will need to have a look at that in the future.
[11:02] <sacarlson> Skutov: so what two interfaces are you wanting to share from and too?
[11:03] <Skutov> internet connection with public IP on eth0 to 192.168.0/24 subnet on eth1
[11:04] <sacarlson> Skutov: ok so you want to make it permanent or just share at intermitent times?
[11:04] <Skutov> Ideally I would like it to be attached to the public IP so it's active whenever my laptop is connected to that networe
[11:04] <Skutov> network.*
[11:04] <Skutov> But something I can toggle with a script would also work.
[11:06] <sacarlson> Skutov: I guess I would just write a small script that shutdown network-manager and setup your network with static ip.  at boot time your network manager would again take over
[11:06] <MasterOfDisaster> Skutov: Usual suspects: ip_forward is enabled? SNAT/MASQUERADE enabled? MSS clamping (ADSL,Cable)?
[11:07] <Skutov> MasterOfDisaster, afaik ip_forward is enabled, SNAT set up through webmin, it's a commercial connection through my office so I doubt that there's any clamping or restriction on it.
[11:07] <MasterOfDisaster> Skutov: use tcpdump to find out where the packets go/stop.
[11:07] <pam> sacarlson: how do I do that?
[11:08] <sacarlson> Skutov: oh ya and I guess isc-dhcp-server would also have to be installed with my method and that would still auto start at boot so another added complicaton with my method
[11:08] <MasterOfDisaster> Skutov: a little diagram of what you are trying to do would help. But as it's not that Ubuntu specific, you might want to take it to ##networking.
[11:09] <Skutov> sacarlson, I already have DHCP server set up and working bound to eth1 (which is a USB network adapter which stays in the office.
[11:09] <Skutov> MasterOfDisaster, That sounds like a good idea, I'll do a quick diagram and have an ask in there.
[11:10] <sacarlson> Skutov: but that is on the network that you plan to share?
[11:10] <Skutov> sacarlson, That's on the network I plan to share to
[11:11] <sacarlson> Skutov: well you need another dhcp on the other network oh unless maybe you just bridge the two networks, but that I have never tried
[11:11] <pam> brb...gotta ask you how to fix my issue with the caja filemanager
[11:12] <sacarlson> pam: it just started to work when I installed the python-caja package
[11:12] <pam> Where is that package?
[11:12] <sacarlson> pam: I didn't know caja and nautalius share plugins like that
[11:13] <sacarlson> pam:  in the standard distrubution
[11:14] <vineetdaniel> hi
[11:14] <pam> is it the mate-icon-theme in synaptic?
[11:14] <vineetdaniel> recently one of my SDD on server faced 100% utilisation...and caused server freeze
[11:14] <vineetdaniel> has anybody faced same issue anytim
[11:15] <pam> can't seem to find the package
[11:15] <sacarlson> pam: I run mate and I would assume yes synaptic has it
[11:15] <sacarlson> pam: you can't find the package caja?
[11:16] <claytonzaugg> QUESTION: I reinstalled the os root directory, but still have my old /home and files saved, but it's showing as a separate drive.  How can I make my newly installed home be replaced with my previous /home that I see as a separate partition?
[11:16] <cfhowlett_> !home | claytonzaugg
[11:16] <Guest87103> hello, I am trying to install ubuntu,   with this update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javac javac
[11:16] <Guest87103> /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_32/bin/javac 1
[11:17] <claytonzaugg> ty
[11:17] <Guest87103> and I have this error, update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javac javac
[11:17] <Guest87103> /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_32/bin/javac 1
[11:17] <Guest87103> can you please assist?
[11:17] <sacarlson> claytonzaugg: you could move the now present /home/you  to /home/you.org and create a symbolic link from present location to where it is now
[11:17] <pam> hmm
[11:17] <cfhowlett_> ??? /home/you.org              ???
[11:17] <pam> sacarlson: nope...caja isn't showing up...
[11:17] <pam> brb
[11:18] <sacarlson> pam: oh well I presently am running mint that has it
[11:18] <Guest87103> what do I need to do here?
[11:18] <pam> hmm
[11:18] <claytonzaugg> sacarlson, will that treat my folder system, the gui version, to be treated as my old home that I sLink to?
[11:18] <Skutov> sacarlson, MasterOfDisaster here's a quick picture of what I want to set up: http://imgur.com/xGcYuN7
[11:20] <sacarlson> claytonzaugg: I've moved home directories that way before,  you do have to use sudo and it best to do it from another user when you are doing the opertation
[11:21] <claytonzaugg> ubottu, that link you sent me shows me how to set up a new partition, or is there a certain part in there I need to read about transferring my old /home to my new /home?
[11:22] <claytonzaugg> Whoa!
[11:22] <sacarlson> Skutov: ok but this device in the midle is a laptop so not setup permanent?
[11:22] <claytonzaugg> dang that's cool!  A freaking bot, lol rad!  sacarlson, the link the bot gave me (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving) where in there do I transfer my old /home to my new /home?
[11:23] <Skutov> sacarlson, Correct.
[11:23] <cfhowlett_> claytonzaugg, from this point forwad ... <Preparing fstab for the switch> as appropriate
[11:24] <sacarlson> Skutov: and you already have isc-dhcp-server running on eth1 so small script I guess I can give you should work
[11:24] <claytonzaugg> ty cfhowlett_
[11:24] <Skutov> sacarlson, Ok, if you could that would be great. Hopefully it'll help me figure out what's not working with my set up at the moment.
[11:25] <vineetdaniel> recently one of my SDD on server faced 100% utilisation...and caused server freeze
[11:25] <vineetdaniel> has anybody faced same issue anytim
[11:26] <youkie> Hello. I want my perl script run on the boot of my ubuntu, so I add "/usr/bin/perl /root/hello/pl &" to /etc/rc.local. But when I reboot my ubuntu, the perl script is not started. Please help me.
[11:26] <sacarlson> Skutov: I would have to look at this to see what needs to be changed https://github.com/sacarlson/mini-isp.debpackage/blob/master/mini-isp-1.0-1.debpackage/usr/share/mini-isp/foropen_new.sh
[11:27] <sacarlson> Skutov: but that should open up sharing with no restrictions
[11:28] <sacarlson> Skutov: this is the restricted script that might contain some settings that are needed like shuting down network-manager https://github.com/sacarlson/mini-isp.debpackage/blob/master/mini-isp-1.0-1.debpackage/usr/share/mini-isp/masq.sh
[11:28] <afidegnum> please I am having this issue while installing the binary version of java update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javac javac        /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_32/bin/javac 1          and I am faced with this error  update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javac javac   /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_32/bin/javac 1
[11:31] <sacarlson> youkie: there are serveral ways to start a app at boot, one method is using cron with @reboot http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-execute-cron-job-after-system-reboot/
[11:31] <claytonzaugg> sacarlson, are you aware of what I need to tweak here (http://pastebin.com/pncfszLm) with regards to following the instructions from here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Preparing_fstab_for_the_switch) starting at Preparing fstab for the switch?
[11:32] <Skutov> sacarlson, As far as I can see the bits that I need to change to get it working at a bare minimum I have changed. I'm more concerned about getting it working that security at the moment.
[11:32] <sacarlson> claytonzaugg: fstab?  your original home disk already mounts at boot now doesn't it?
[11:32] <sacarlson> claytonzaugg: I'm sure that it could be done that way also
[11:33] <claytonzaugg> sacarlson, it boots but only as a separate partition
[11:33] <sacarlson> claytonzaugg: yes but the partition mounts at boot or not?   does it mount at /media/...
[11:33] <claytonzaugg> sacarlson, I reinstalled the OS, formatted the / directory, but kept my /home directory alone
[11:34] <claytonzaugg> ...that I don't know, I mean I see it in my folder gui, but... I don't think it mounts, no
[11:35] <sacarlson> claytonzaugg: ok then fstab manipulation will be needed
[11:35] <claytonzaugg> okay, sacarlson is that something you can help me with?  I was a little / lot confused while reading that link the bot sent me.
[11:35] <sacarlson> claytonzaugg: might want to create another user with another name than the one you are attempting to recover and give that user sudo privliges
[11:35] <claytonzaugg> sacarlson: should I start from the beginning of that link or...
[11:36] <claytonzaugg> okay
[11:37] <ZieLonKa> Hi, given the following setup: nic1 (eth0 192.168.0.1/255.255.252.0), nic2 (eth1 192.168.1.1/255.255.252.0). Now I want to use isc-dhcp-server to assign ip-adresses from 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.200 on eth0, same way on eth1 with 192.168.1.x. Are two (almost same) subnet definitions in /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf required, one for each range?
[11:38] <ZieLonKa> any kind help appreciated :>
[11:39] <bazhang> try ##networking ZieLonKa
[11:39] <sacarlson> claytonzaugg: that link looks like it should work but my idea of creating a new user won't work since that will be put in the /home directory you are moving.  maybe just activate root
[11:40] <ZieLonKa> kk thx
[11:40] <sacarlson> claytonzaugg: the home for root is at /root so that user won't be effected by you moving /home.  if you do something wrong in this case it could be difficult to fix with no sudo user that can login
[11:40] <claytonzaugg> ok
[11:41] <claytonzaugg> sacarlson: okay, thank you!
[11:43] <sacarlson> ZieLonKa: you sure you need to have dhcp running on both sides on nic1 and nic2?
[11:43] <sacarlson> ZieLonKa: isn't there a router on one side that can be used as the dhcp on one side?
[11:46] <sacarlson> ZieLonKa: otherwise I guess the answer would be yes but I've never attempted to setup dhcp-server on two nics at the same time before
[11:52] <think__> is there something comparable to yaourt on ubuntu, or am i able to install that on ubuntu like on arch
[11:53] <ZieLonKa> sacarlson: ok, thx
[11:53] <ropeus> wich program must be used to install team speack 3 (not 2) under ubuntu distro
[11:53] <ropeus> thanks for support
[11:54] <sacarlson> think__: so you want to compile and package or just install something?
[11:54] <think__> just install something really in terminal while being vague
[11:55] <sacarlson> think__: then we use apt-get install appname   or a gui like synaptic
[11:56] <think__> gotcha, I figured as much but just like how yaourt pulls results. Thank you!
[11:56] <AlexPortable> [somecodehere] BUG: soft lockup, CPU#0 stuck for 24s! [xorg: 1270]
[11:56] <bazhang> AlexPortable, what is that
[11:57] <AlexPortable> an error I get on my screen
[11:57] <AlexPortable> screen is black, only 1 white line of code that says that ^
[11:57] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: nothing I've ever seen before
[11:58] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: fresh install?
[11:58] <AlexPortable> Yes, but old profile
[11:59] <JoshStrobl> ropeus, http://teamspeak.com/?page=downloads&type=ts3_linux_client_latest
[12:01] <JoshStrobl> ropeus, download the .run file it gives you, open up the terminal and go to your Downloads directly. Do chmod +x TeamSpeak*.run, then after doing that type ./TeamSpeak*.run
[12:01] <JoshStrobl> *Downloads directory
[12:02] <AlexPortable> So anyone?
[12:03] <AlexPortable> I need to get my work done
[12:04] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: all I see is xorg so I assume it's a graphic driver problem
[12:05] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: what's that magic keystroke that pops you into terminal mode where you can maybe do ps -A and see what's running
[12:05] <rtb> what is the preferred way of overcoming the annoyances of older versions of packages? [i use archlinux but am using ubuntu on ec2] do u guys simply compile from source or do you use the package manager to get the latest?
[12:05] <AlexPortable> ctrl alt f1 you mean?
[12:05] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: ya I think that's it
[12:06] <JoshStrobl> rtb, if the latest isn't in the repo, check PPAs, else compile.
[12:06] <rtb> JoshStrobl, thanks
[12:06] <sacarlson> rtb: yes ppa is cool if you wan't almost edge software
[12:06] <rtb> got it sacarlson :)
[12:07] <JoshStrobl> rtb, if you aren't sure what the package name is you can probably just search packages.ubuntu.com
[12:07] <AlexPortable> sacarlson: can't. whole system is unresponsive
[12:07] <JoshStrobl> but you use arch, so I'll assume you know how already :P
[12:07] <rtb> :)
[12:07] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: then reboot in safe mode
[12:07] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: single user mode
[12:07] <AlexPortable> Well after reboot it works fine
[12:08] <matias> Hello
[12:08] <AlexPortable> but then randomly locks up sometimes
[12:08] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: oh it's intermitent?
[12:08] <AlexPortable> intermitent = ?
[12:08] <JoshStrobl> AlexPortable, are you running a newer kernel version than what was provided? changed to a proprietary driver?
[12:08] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: try the propriatary grafic drivers
[12:08] <AlexPortable> Which drivers should I install?
[12:08] <AlexPortable> nvidia 6100 from the top of my head
[12:09] <JoshStrobl> sacarlson, most of the time it is the proprietary drivers that give issues, not stuff like fglrx
[12:09] <JoshStrobl> AlexPortable, did you install a newer kernel or a different graphics driver after you installed your system?
[12:09] <sacarlson> JoshStrobl: ya that's true, I've had problems with some proprietary drivers
[12:09] <AlexPortable> I updated, which gave me a new kernel
[12:10] <AlexPortable> I saw it installing linux something.something
[12:10] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: oh ya new kernel means you have to reinstall the propriatary drivers also
[12:10] <JoshStrobl> sacarlson, not necessarily
[12:10] <AlexPortable> where can I get them?
[12:10] <AlexPortable> repo's, manufacturers website?
[12:10] <sacarlson> JoshStrobl: seems my nvidia had to compile some stuf when I put in a new kernal
[12:11] <JoshStrobl> sacarlson, that is typically automatic, dkms runs on boot
[12:11] <sacarlson> JoshStrobl: or was that something else like virtualbox?
[12:11] <JoshStrobl> sacarlson, no, that updates as well
[12:12] <JoshStrobl> AlexPortable, when you log back into your machine, check if you are using the open source driver or proprietary. Type in the dash something like "Additional" or "Driver".
[12:12] <AlexPortable> standard
[12:12] <AlexPortable> i think
[12:12] <AlexPortable> no nvidia control panel
[12:12] <AlexPortable> how can i install it?
[12:13] <JoshStrobl> so are you running standard or not?
[12:13] <JoshStrobl> sacarlson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS
[12:13] <AlexPortable> yes standard
[12:13] <AlexPortable> didn't install another driver
[12:13] <JoshStrobl> hmm
[12:13] <JoshStrobl> what options does it give you?
[12:14] <mchelen> how can i figure out what ubuntu package includes the python "video" module?
[12:14] <JoshStrobl> mchelen, sec
[12:15] <JoshStrobl> mchelen, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&section=all&arch=any&keywords=python&searchon=names
[12:15] <mchelen> kk
[12:15] <mchelen> JoshStrobl: that means reading through pages of package names :(
[12:15] <JoshStrobl> mchelen, check the packages on there, use the search up at the top to narrow down it more. I'm not a python dev, so not much I can do to help ya there :/
[12:15] <JoshStrobl> mchelen, or just doing CTRL+F and typing "video"
[12:16] <mchelen> JoshStrobl: yeah, i tried searching there & with synaptic
[12:16] <JoshStrobl> ah yea
[12:16] <mchelen> JoshStrobl: there is nothing obvious like python-video
[12:16] <JoshStrobl> damn, multiple pages
[12:16] <JoshStrobl> sec
[12:16] <JoshStrobl> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&section=all&arch=any&keywords=python+video&searchon=names
[12:16] <mchelen> JoshStrobl: maybe this is just a python question
[12:17] <JoshStrobl> mchelen, might be worth asking in #python
[12:17] <mchelen> JoshStrobl: yup thats what im going to do, thanks anyway
[12:22] <mchelen> JoshStrobl: found the problem, for some reason the opencv-doc package leaves a bunch of .py.gz files in /usr/share/doc/opencv-doc/ that need to be gunzipped
[12:22] <AlexPortable> where can I get graphics drivers? repo's, manufacturers website?
[12:23] <JoshStrobl> AlexPortable, from the Additional Drivers section in Ubuntu. Just type it in the Dash.
[12:23] <think> AlexPortable: Nvidia.com has linux drivers and you can use additional drivers section in software and updates
[12:23] <AlexPortable> Don't have the dash anymore
[12:23] <AlexPortable> it froze my system
[12:23] <JoshStrobl> hmm
[12:23] <AlexPortable> so additional drivers or nvidia.com?
[12:23] <JoshStrobl> can you still fire up a terminal with CTRL+ALT+T?
[12:24] <AlexPortable> yes
[12:24] <AlexPortable> i have openbox
[12:24] <JoshStrobl> I'll see what the actual command is to directly open up the additional drivers window
[12:25] <ferbv> AlexPortable: try jockey-gtk
[12:25] <think> software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4 for additional drivers
[12:25] <JoshStrobl> yep
[12:29] <manolos> Hello. I would like to ask something. In ubuntu 14.04 clean install i install LXDE+lxdm. The problem is that when i click logout from menu i get nothing. lxdesession-logout doesnt do anything. Any help?
[12:30] <carver__> hi manolos, i can't really guess why lxdesession-logout would do that, but, may i suggest you install lubuntu? it already comes with lxde
[12:31] <manolos> Well, if i dont fix that anoying thing with lxde menu maybe i will use lubuntu after all
[12:33] <carver__> may be best, if you can backup some of your personal data and simply re-install with lubuntu. i know it must be frrustrating :[
[12:36] <ashley01> Hello
[12:36] <EriC^^> hi
[12:37] <ashley01> I am on Ubuntu but want to put a different linux distro on my USB to try it out. I've tried dd but it made no changes to my USB stick.
[12:39] <geirha> ashley01: uh oh, then the next question is, what did it make changes to instead?
[12:39] <ashley01> i checked my other USB stick and SSD, no changes on them
[12:39] <EriC^^> ashley01: what was the command you ran?
[12:39] <ashley01> dd if=location-of-ISO-here bs=4M of=/dev/sdb
[12:40] <LordDeath> what it the best way to restart KDM when the login screen hangs?
[12:40] <EriC^^> LordDeath: sudo service kdm restart ?
[12:40] <ashley01> i did that sbd is my USB stick with lsblk
[12:41] <ashley01> i did check*
[12:41] <LordDeath> doing /etc/init.d/kdm restart seems to restart it in the currenty tty
[12:41] <carver__> ruhroh, ><
[12:41] <EriC^^> ashley01: try unetbootin, sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[12:41] <LordDeath> but I want to leave it running in tty7
[12:42] <EriC^^> LordDeath: so you have tty8 and want it to restart there ?
[12:42] <LordDeath> EriC^^: it hangs and it switch over to tty1 by pressing ctrl+alt+F1
[12:42] <ashley01> oh guys
[12:42] <ashley01> it did work with dd
[12:42] <LordDeath> there I log in and restart kdm
[12:42] <ashley01> Ubuntu did not refresh my USB stick
[12:43] <LordDeath> but when I to back to tty1 and log out, KDM seems to be killed, too.
[12:43] <ashley01> to show me that the bootloader, partition tables, etc were put on
[12:43] <ashley01> i had to take it out and put it back in again!
[12:43] <JoshStrobl> yea unmounting and remounting would've worked too
[12:43] <ashley01> in, out, shake it all about!
[12:44] <JoshStrobl> I don't think Files handles dynamic drive partition changing, just directory and file changes.
[12:45] <EriC^^> LordDeath: odd
[12:45] <ashley01> it feels so good when something works
[12:47] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:03] <blackthor> mmm can somebody give me a hint:  ubuntu 14.04.1 lts ; fresh install.  there are no rules applied to iptables. i suspected some traffic being dropped and i added a "LOGGING" rule, and it seems to drop traffic.
[13:04] <blackthor> http://pastebin.com/zBfydSVD  what am i missing ?
[13:04] <Morpheusxnl> hello
[13:05] <sacarlson> blackthor: I know of no added rules by default but did you look at sudo iptable -t nat -L
[13:05] <sacarlson> blackthor: maybe iptable -t mangle -L
[13:06] <blackthor> no rules were added
[13:06] <blackthor> just checked those commands
[13:07] <sacarlson> blackthor: you should also see sudo iptables -v -L and see where packets are ending up
[13:07] <blackthor> wtf. i just added     -A INPUT -p tcp -j ACCEPT        and now all issues are gone.
[13:08] <sacarlson> blackthor: oh sounds like fw is running
[13:09] <blackthor> fw?
[13:09] <blackthor> yes i see some kind of crap ufw  but it isn't running
[13:10] <sacarlson> blackthor: maybe sudo ufw disable ?
[13:10] <iptable> sacarlson, iptables. not iptable. iptables
[13:10] <sacarlson> iptable: ya that one
[13:10] <iptable> sacarlson, subtle difference. iptable=dude, iptables=frontend to netfilter
[13:10] <iptable> I don't do rules
[13:10] <ObrienDave> ROFL
[13:11] <iptable> best way to see all the rules you got is by running: iptables-save btw
[13:11] <iptable> it will print all rules to the screen
[13:11] <iptable> blackthor, ^
[13:12] <iptable> blackthor, if there weren't any rules but it was still rejecting, possibly INPUT chain is set to DENY by default?
[13:12] <sacarlson> iptable: but it seems blackthor is also seeing changes of what he has already done
[13:12] <iptable> changes can only happen if you have a "firewall frontend", like the shitty ufw
[13:13] <iptable> disable all frontends and scripts you got which manipulate those rules and try again
[13:13] <blackthor> well; i didn't chose to install ufw, don't know why they do that by default
[13:13] <blackthor> well, i explicitly had to add to allow tcp traffic and now everything seems fine
[13:13] <blackthor> very annoying,  (own ssh access not allowed)
[13:14] <iptable> blackthor, everything seems fine? how about udp for dns so that it doesn't have to failback to tcp?
[13:14] <iptable> ping?
[13:14] <sloof> I've got /etc/network/interfaces configured correctly and my second NIC gets the IP it should if run /etc/init.d/networking restart.  However the 2nd NIC loses it's config 30 seconds later.  What might cause this?  This a 12.04 desktop that I'm configuring via SSH.  Is NetworkManager playing games?
[13:14] <blackthor> yeah... the rest seems working...  (ping, dns, ...)
[13:14] <iptable> blackthor, now, real troubleshooting. check iptables-save. post on pastebin if you can. I will tell you what happened and where the rules are.
[13:14] <iptable> there must be a blocking rule
[13:15] <sacarlson> sloof: try pastbin your /etc/network/interfaces file
[13:16] <iptable> but with iptables, the order is (for internally ending packets): broute brouting, raw prerouting, mangle prerouting, nat prerouting, mangle input, filter input.
[13:16] <sacarlson> sloof: I thought if interfaces takes it network-manager is overriden
[13:16] <blackthor> http://pastebin.com/FjjsDD2d
[13:16] <iptable> sloof, if you have networkmanager, then most likely yes. it's network manager
[13:17] <blackthor> aargh, did a drop all by accident ;)
[13:17] <iptable> sloof, network manager *should* figure out if your interfaces are in interfaces file and not touch them. that's not always the case
[13:17] <sacarlson> sloof: but I've had so many problems with network-manager changing things that I have custom static that i disable it
[13:17] <sloof> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8564794/
[13:17] <iptable> blackthor, well, with that list, it will work out of the box ;)
[13:18] <iptable> sloof, if you have network manager, you should use that to configure your interfaces!
[13:18] <iptable> sloof, or if not using a GUI, uninstall nm, and use interfaces file
[13:18] <iptable> sloof, your interfaces file is correct
[13:19] <sacarlson> sloof: I think you have to have auto on one line auto eth0 eth1
[13:21] <sacarlson> sloof: auto lo eth1 etho
[13:21] <sacarlson> sloof: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76065/how-do-i-configure-two-network-adapters-in-ubuntu-server
[13:22] <iptable> sacarlson, no, no need for auto on one line
[13:22] <iptable> I have over 30 interfaces on my linux router and they are all on different lines. together with the "auto".
[13:22] <iptable> sloof, ^
[13:22] <sacarlson> iptable: it's worth a try but that's the only diff I see
[13:22] <iptable> well, for a fact it does work.
[13:23] <sloof> I disabled NM for now
[13:23] <iptable> sloof, cool, that should resolve your issue. does it?
[13:23] <iptable> oh damn, that's some good tea :)
[13:24] <sloof> I'll tell you in 60 seconds
[13:24] <iptable> haha, cool :D
[13:27] <sloof> IP still there.  NM must have been the problem
[13:27] <Anuska> Hi iptable :*
[13:28] <iptable> well hello love
[13:28] <iptable> sloof, awesome :) don't need it, don't use it ;)
[13:29] <blackthor> iptable: i just reset the whole crap and it seems to be working. thanks for the help though.
[13:32] <thrope> im upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 but the process appears to have stalled on “unpacking samba-common-bin”… there is a “trusty” process using abotu 3% CPU but nothing else seems to be happening.
[13:32] <thrope> what is the best way to proceeed?
[13:32] <osama> I’m upgrading from Fedora 20 to 14.04 Gnome edition ;)
[13:33] <cfhowlett> osama, you cannot upgrade fedora to ubuntu.
[13:34] <osama> cfhowlett: I do it all the time, downgraded to Fedora from 13.10…
[13:34] <sacarlson> thrope: I thought the rule was to only upgrade one step at a time 12.04 12.10...  did they automate that now?
[13:34] <thrope> its lts releases
[13:34] <thrope> so the upgrade manager just prompted me
[13:35] <osama> cfhowlett: upgrade to me is rewriting /
[13:35] <cfhowlett> osama, they are different OS.  you can install a different but you cannot upgrade from OS to a different OS
[13:35] <cfhowlett> osama, so your question is .... ?
[13:35] <ObrienDave> osama, the rest of the world does not share your definition of upgrade/rewriting
[13:36] <cfhowlett> thrope, LTS to LST upgrade = 4 releases
[13:36] <thrope> cfhowlett: I don’t understand your point
[13:37] <cfhowlett> thrope, ah, sacarlson that is.  sorry.
[13:37] <thrope> cfhowlett: I understand the ubuntu release cycle… I am using only LTS releases. I have been on 12.04. Now the 14.04 lts is out I was prompted to upadate
[13:37] <thrope> ah ok
[13:38] <thrope> anyway i killed dpkg and now it seems to be continuing
[13:39] <sacarlson> thrope: I personaly prefer install fresh in a spare partition so if it fails I fall back to what I had.  I've had failures on upgrades before that cost me
[13:41] <ObrienDave> sacarlson, good idea
[13:42] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, lts + clean install FTW
[13:43] <thrope> thanks I’ll think about it for next time
[13:44] <sveinse> Does anyone know of a CA which can issue free SSL certificates for FOSS usages?
[13:45] <sacarlson> sveinse: I know I've used free ssl before but I forget where I got them from
[13:45] <sacarlson> sveinse: maybe it had some restriction good for only 3 months or something
[13:45] <jnxd> sveinse, want done crippling bug discovered in ssl suggesting a replacement
[13:46] <jnxd> *wasn't some
[13:46] <sveinse> jnxd, you talking about heartbleed? That is about the ssl servers, not encryption and signing.
[13:47] <jnxd> no I'm talking of some more recent POODLE
[13:47] <sacarlson>  jnxd sveinse ya I thought they had a fix released within hours
[13:49] <jnxd> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/10/ssl-broken-again-in-poodle-attack/
[13:49] <sveinse> whoah! I didn't know about POODLE. Scary
[13:49] <reisio> I like dogs
[13:50] <reisio> but we already knew openssl was broken
[13:51] <jnxd> that's as much as I can say. I'm not nearly knowledgeable enough about it fit anything more than spreading the word
[13:51] <sveinse> OK, I might as well revert back to self-signed CA certificates....
[13:52] <sloof> sveinse: CAcert is probably the closest but still isn't that much better than self signed
[13:52] <Aman_> developer
[13:52] <reisio> doesn't seem that scary to me, it says right there that discerning folk use TLS already
[13:53] <sveinse> The only reason for having a central signed cert is because modern browsers loudly complain if you connect to a self-signed server. More so now than before
[13:53] <Aman_> hello
[13:53] <reisio> 'lo aman
[13:54] <Aman_> okay
[13:55] <Aman_> say something
[13:55] <Aman_> i m new here...what is it for
[13:55] <Aman_> ?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !topic | Aman_,
[13:57] <sacarlson> sveinse: I think I tried this one for free https://www.startssl.com/  but it seemed I still got warnings on some browsers
[13:57] <sacarlson> sveinse: free class1 for one year
[13:58] <sveinse> sacarlson: Yes, but for protecting an apache server you need at least class 2 AFAIK
[13:58] <sveinse> which is not free
[13:58] <cool_boy> how do I grep a keyword in all files of filesystem?
[13:59] <sveinse> grep -r keyword *
[13:59] <Pici> cool_boy: grep -R "foo" /
[14:00] <cool_boy> Pici: thanks for what purpose / is used at last?
[14:00] <cool_boy> sveinse: thanks
[14:01] <Pici> cool_boy: It says to search recursively from the root of the filesystem, while sveinse's command says to search recursively starting from the current folder.
[14:02] <sveinse> It is generally not efficient to grep through / because it will traverse the dynamic file systems, such as /sys and /proc, which does not really make any sense
[14:02] <cool_boy> Pici: great, thanks
[14:03] <Pici> sveinse: Agreed, I wouldn't do it myself, but thats what they asked for ;)
[14:04] <Ky1e> Anyone good with figuring out bluetooth issues?
[14:06] <Ky1e> Can someone please help me with my bluetooth dongle issue
[14:06] <cool_boy> thank you both Pici & sveinse , I learnt more than I asked for
[14:06] <cool_boy> ;)
[14:06] <organicanarchy> anyone else enjoying the netflix for linux?
[14:07] <mrkirran> tits
[14:07] <reisio> mrkirran: :)
[14:07] <reisio> organicanarchy: #polls
[14:08] <hashdah> sudo apt-get remove --purge wine does not remove wine
[14:08] <hashdah> any idea why?
[14:08] <organicanarchy> everywhere im reading saying it works in Ubuntu, but its workign just fine in pretty much any distro
[14:08] <reisio> organicanarchy: yup, that's the case with anything
[14:08] <reisio> works on one distro, works on another
[14:09] <reisio> a lot of people know about Ubuntu but not other distros :p
[14:09] <cfhowlett> hashdah, it DOES remove wine.  it doesn't remove wine menu entries.
[14:09] <hashdah> I had to remove wine1.6 explicitly
[14:10] <organicanarchy> reisio, its probablywhy, im running manjaro and it runs just fine on here
[14:11] <Ky1e> Guess no one here knows about bluetooth
[14:11] <cfhowlett> !patience | Ky1e
[14:11] <vitimiti> Ky1e, and advice, make smart questions, give all the information you can so somebody will want/be able to help you and be patient
[14:13] <Ky1e> Ok well I am using 14.04 and my syslog gives me this error Bluetooth: hci0 command 0x1004 tx timeout
[14:13] <Quatroking> can i run python scripts on ubuntu by default or do I have to install some stuff first?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> !python | quake_guy
[14:14] <cfhowlett> Quatroking, sory quake_guy ^^^
[14:14] <Quatroking> >included in ubuntu
[14:14] <Quatroking> great, thanks
[14:14] <quake_guy> no problem :)
[14:15] <Quatroking> as for running the scripts, do I just throw the .py filename in my terminal and hit enter?
[14:15] <reisio> Quatroking: 'python foo.py'
[14:15] <reisio> Quatroking: or chmod +x foo.py; ./path/to/foo.py
[14:15] <Quatroking> thanks
[14:16] <Quatroking> heheh, foopy
[14:16] <reisio> or put it into /usr/local/bin/, with chmod +x
[14:16] <reisio> or any number of other ways :)
[14:16] <reisio> python foo is the simplest way
[14:16] <barath> Hi guys I really need some help with plex media server?
[14:16] <reisio> it says run this, run it as python, do it
[14:17] <Quatroking> sounds easy enough, I need it to run a script someone wrote that allows me to generate index.html files for my public dropbox folders
[14:18] <reisio> Quatroking: :p
[14:18] <reisio> Quatroking: what's it do, exactly?
[14:18] <Quatroking> with dropbox you can link people to files in your public folder but not to the folder itself so you'd need an html file with a directory listing
[14:19] <Quatroking> I'd write this up quickly with C# on my windows rig but I'm lazy so I just googled up someone else's solution
[14:20] <rinozo33> hello, quick q: regarding updates how do you do the "ticking of the box" operation (for security/updates/proposed/backports) from terminal?
[14:20] <reisio> I'm guessing I'd do it with a shell script
[14:20] <reisio> Quatroking: you can use C# on Unix, too :)
[14:20] <Quatroking> with mono, right?
[14:20] <reisio> yeah
[14:20] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[14:20] <Quatroking> Never tried out mono before, I've been using VS for years
[14:21] <stormzen> On Ubuntu 14.04.1, can the network service be stopped with sudo service networking stop?  It fails for me.  I'm trying to figure out if that's expected behavior.
[14:21] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: hithank, no that's not what i am asking
[14:21] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: you know in the update manager settings the boxes you can tick...
[14:22] <swift110-phone> Hey
[14:22] <iptable> stormzen, do you have network manager installed and do you use it?
[14:22] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: to choose which updates
[14:22] <reisio> swift110-phone: hey
[14:22] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, ah, that.  you can edit your sources.list but I've not done it in quite a while.
[14:22] <iptable> stormzen, if you do, then this is why netowrking stop doesn't work for you. also, it's best to ifdown the interfaces instead.
[14:22] <swift110-phone> How r u reisio
[14:22] <stormzen> iptable, I do, and sometimes.  But I'm not necessarily attached to it.
[14:22] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: there are 4 tickable boxes: security/updates/proposed/backports
[14:22] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:23] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: is it just a true/false kind of thing?
[14:23] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, binary, yes.  it's on or it's off.
[14:24] <iptable> this is a very weird conversation
[14:24] <Quatroking> apparently you can produce HTML output with Tree, anybody know about this?
[14:24] <iptable> Oak?
[14:24] <Quatroking> No, Mahogany
[14:24] <stormzen> iptable, That's reasonable.  What led me to ask the question was that I'm having issues with connecting to non-home networks.  The signal gets dropped, if it connects at all, from being suspended from home, and it won't connect to networks afterward.  I have centrino advanced 6205 N that uses iwlwifi.
[14:24] <Quatroking> :P
[14:25] <amr> besides linking me to the SO and askubuntu pages, has anyone here got citrix receiver working on a 64bit install?
[14:27] <LordDeath> sftp over filezilla does not work if I have a "your LDAP password will expire soon" message ^^
[14:27] <WereCatf> How do I disable something called powerdevil? I'm getting totally insane memoryleak in kded4 (~10GB RAM usage all by itself!) and a Google-search appears to say it's due to powerdevil
[14:27] <LordDeath> strange bug...
[14:27] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: do you mind pastebinning your sources.list for me? i want to see how it looks by default (if yours is default)
[14:28] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, pretty close to default.  wait 1
[14:29] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, http://ur1.ca/idl4f
[14:29] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: thank you
[14:29] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, happy2help
[14:29] <LJSeinfeld> Having trouble with scripting openvpn connections… I have a script that runs as a (root) cron job that checks to see if my vpn connection is OK, if it isn’t it kills openvpn and calls a script to connect the vpn.  The killing works.. the re-connecting doesn’t.  But if I call the reconnect script from the terminal it works… weird
[14:30] <rinozo33> how do you turn them on/off (i dont see true/false)
[14:30] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: how do you turn them on/off (i dont see true/false)
[14:30] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, "uncomment the following lines ..."  remove the ##
[14:30] <Quatroking> here's a quick question: how do i go one directory up with terminal
[14:30] <Quatroking> in windows this is cd.., what is it in linux?
[14:30] <LJSeinfeld> cd ..
[14:30] <Quatroking> oh, a space
[14:31] <Quatroking> thanks
[14:31] <stormzen> hah, I thought that was  a trick question, of some sort.  :p
[14:31] <stormzen> does it really work without the space in windows?
[14:31] <carver__> yes
[14:32] <Quatroking> yep
[14:32] <stormzen> intriguing.
[14:32] <Quatroking> makes it quick to type as well
[14:32] <Quatroking> not sure when they added that though, either in xp or in vista
[14:32] <LJSeinfeld> lol.. yeah that spacebar is tough to get to reliably :D
[14:33] <stormzen> lol
[14:33] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: ok i am good. thankyou again bye
[14:33] <Quatroking> LJSeinfeld, hey man, it's still ONE ENTIRE KEYSTROKE!
[14:33] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, bookmark this tool:  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[14:33] <Quatroking> don't want to risk getting RSI now do we
[14:34] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: ok, what is it for?
[14:34] <LJSeinfeld> technically its 25% of the work… but if it’s a huge deal you could alias a command … like “up” or something… more savings :)
[14:34] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, rebuilding sources
[14:34] <Quatroking> is it possible to create an alias of some sorts so I can use cd.. as a shortcut for cd ..?
[14:34] <Quatroking> ha
[14:34] <Quatroking> well, LJSeinfeld, how does aliasing work
[14:34] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: for experts or beginners?
[14:34] <LJSeinfeld> look at ~./bashrc
[14:35] <LJSeinfeld> err ~/.bashrc
[14:35] <cfhowlett> rinozo33, play with it it.  it's pretty much point & shoot.
[14:35] <pbx> Quatroking: alias cd..='cd ..'
[14:35] <Quatroking> thanks!
[14:35] <Quatroking> awesome, this is working great
[14:36] <WereCatf> No one has any idea about kded4 leaking memory or about disabling powerdevil?
[14:36] <LJSeinfeld> now tell me how to get a script fired by (root’s) cron to bring my VPN connection back up :D
[14:36] <LJSeinfeld> lol
[14:36] <rinozo33> cfhowlett: yes cuz i am a beginner (as you can see :) ok, bye, thanks
[14:37] <LJSeinfeld> you’d think it would just work… but it doesn’t.  I’m not really sure how to (which log, etc) troubleshoot it.
[14:37] <stormzen> LJSeinfeld, I think it's in the main log, /var/log/message ?
[14:38] <stormzen> LJSeinfeld, what is the issue that you're having?
[14:39] <stormzen> LJSeinfeld, the trickiest thing about crontab with root to me, has something to do with root's locale, or lack thereof.
[14:40] <stormzen> LJSeinfeld, are you modifying /etc/crontab directly?
[14:44] <stormzen> LJSeinfeld, sorry, /var/log/syslog, according to this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/56683/where-is-the-cron-crontab-log  ... Perhaps its been too long for me since I've played with this to be of any help.
[14:45]  * stormzen wanders off
[14:46] <cafe> @@@
[14:47] <LJSeinfeld> sudo crontab -e is what I’m doing
[14:48] <LJSeinfeld> to run the vpn check script every 5 minutes
[14:49] <LJSeinfeld> if the vpn check doesn’t like what it sees, it kills openvpn (that works) and sends me a prowl message.  It should then also run my “firevpn.sh” script… but that part never seems to work
[14:49] <LJSeinfeld> if i call firevpn.sh (as sudo), it works just fine
[14:52] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: How does it kill openvpn exactly?
[14:52] <LJSeinfeld> script runs killall openvpn
[14:53] <LJSeinfeld> just to make sure it’s not lingering on a non-responsive connection
[14:53] <geirha> ok, and the script is named firevpn, so that won't accidentally match that at least
[14:53] <LJSeinfeld> right
[14:53] <LJSeinfeld> althought i’ve never thought about that :D….
[14:53] <LJSeinfeld> happy accident
[14:54] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: I generally recommend not to use killall, pgrep and pkill in scripts, but that's beside the point since it's not the problem here. Perhaps the next command is not in PATH
[14:54] <WereCatf> Is anyone familiar with kded4 leaking memory like a sieve?
[14:55] <OerHeks> WereCatf, you might better ask in #Kubuntu.
[14:55] <LJSeinfeld> I’m sure some of my ideas are kinda kludgy… but I’m learning as I go.. solutions to get more elegant as I get better :D
[14:56] <LJSeinfeld> vpncheck.sh :  http://ecklund.us/paste/?947b29d23ff1140c#rQYtRnSYavAx/477qka/mq7xn7oGpsSTMm/o9+wJd0c=
[14:56] <Alan_bugZ> Hello
[14:57] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: Ok, so VPN-down.sh, what does that do?
[14:58] <LJSeinfeld> firevpn.sh  http://ecklund.us/paste/?c1d81b74835a601c#JnuqTNHeUZEcqaQjnnSuI2h9nqmIDrJZePkwhc/B8ww=
[14:58] <LJSeinfeld> VPN-down coming…
[14:59] <Morpheusxnl> i use virtualmin on ubuntu and i am wondering how the virtualservers and their users get created in the background. any ideas how i can find or see this
[14:59] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: I'm guessing you'll find that it runs some command from /sbin or /usr/sbin  which are not in cron's PATH by default. In which case, set PATH at the top of the script. http://askubuntu.com/a/23438/9016
[15:00] <LJSeinfeld> http://ecklund.us/paste/?de6a908ffb9a6c87#905y6O0GNCiccyPdklIJ2es/mzUGnLNaUTY7+E0WQy4=
[15:00] <LJSeinfeld> VPN-down.sh
[15:00] <Joel> can someone recomend a terminal that has tabs, and supports using ctrl+tab to switch between them?
[15:01] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: ah yes, openvpn is located in /usr/sbin/ I believe, run ''type -P openvpn'' to confirm
[15:01] <WereCatf> Joel: I thought you could just change the shortcut in kterminal for that?
[15:01] <geirha> In which case put    PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin  at the start of the script
[15:01] <Joel> WereCatf, I'll try kterminal, thanks.
[15:01] <WereCatf> I mean, konsole
[15:02] <Joel> ugh, 181mb of deps for that
[15:02] <LJSeinfeld> it’s in /usr/sbin/openvpn
[15:02] <WereCatf> I'm not sure, though, I'm new to KDE myself, too. And it seems like I won't be using it for long if I can't get the memory-leak fixed.
[15:02] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: same with the  service  and  stop  cl
[15:02] <geirha> *commands
[15:03] <LJSeinfeld> so mabye the script fails at service stop?
[15:03] <geirha> So both firevpn and VPN-down need PATH adjusted
[15:03] <LJSeinfeld> lemme give that a try
[15:03] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: yes, service is a script that will eventually run the stop command in this case, and the stop command is in /sbin
[15:04] <OerHeks>   /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --ssl-version-min=tls1
[15:05] <LJSeinfeld> killed openvpn.. lets see if it restarts
[15:05] <LJSeinfeld> just got my prowl message that the vpn is down
[15:06] <Hortense23>  Free Porn for Life!. Click Here! http://bit.do/my_videos69
[15:08] <LJSeinfeld> sweet, I was hoping for free porn for life..
[15:09] <LJSeinfeld> vpn check script should run and do something any minute now.. :::crosses fingers:::
[15:09] <ObrienDave> ah, the simple pleasures of life LOL
[15:10] <LJSeinfeld> whoohoo —
[15:10] <LJSeinfeld> vpn just came back up automagically :D
[15:11] <LJSeinfeld> thanks geirha :)
[15:11] <edward__> hello
[15:11] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: yay :)
[15:12] <edward__> China
[15:12] <edward__> you?
[15:12] <LJSeinfeld> one step closer to automatic media control :)
[15:12] <LJSeinfeld> thanks again
[15:12] <edward__> ?
[15:12] <edward__> ???
[15:12] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: there are further improvements that can be made to those scripts though, such as error handling, and there are some bugs that will likely eventually trigger
[15:12] <Pici> edward__: This is the official Ubuntu support channel, did you have a question?
[15:13] <edward__> oh,i find it's hard to install the CodeBlocks
[15:14] <LJSeinfeld> error handling is something that I’m not even close to being proficient enough to handle
[15:14] <LJSeinfeld> yet
[15:14] <LJSeinfeld> coming to bash from the level of “almost good enough to be dangerous” in applescript, lol
[15:15] <ObrienDave> scary thought ;P
[15:15] <LJSeinfeld> with the occasional “do shell script” command that got me going on bash stuff
[15:17] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: Well, if you want to become a bash "pro", the links in   /topic #bash   will be a good start.
[15:19] <LJSeinfeld> cool— I’ll check them out.  Currently I’m using google…
[15:19] <LJSeinfeld> lol
[15:20] <LJSeinfeld> but have read / done some tutorials, and lurked around stackechange a lot
[15:21] <geirha> LJSeinfeld: In #bash we have a !google factoid that recommends not using google :P and stackexchange is generally a bad source for bash scripting too
[15:21] <LJSeinfeld> that figures ….
[15:22] <LJSeinfeld> "If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind." - Kurt Vonnegut
[15:22] <LJSeinfeld> that’s pretty much where I’m at currently…
[15:23] <Joel> Accidentally removed "Applications Places" from the top bar in gnome, how do I add that back? :\
[15:23] <Joel> whoop, got it, bnm
[15:23] <ObrienDave> we love self helpers LOL
[15:24] <Joel> :)
[15:24] <Joel> Another odd one, how do I copy a shortcut in the menu to another spot in the menu?
[15:25] <verodeb> hi ppl
[15:25] <ObrienDave> use menu editor to create a new launcher and paste the info from the one you want to copy
[15:25] <verodeb> i need to know what the command smem throws in the PSS Column is in bytes or what?
[15:26] <Joel> ObrienDave, icky, there's no easy way to get the same icon doing that :(
[15:27] <lindw0rm> Hi, I have a question. I am in search of a service that can act like cron, but with one difference. Starting a script oevery 1710th of a Second. Does anybody have an idea?
[15:27] <OerHeks> verodeb, kb
[15:28] <ObrienDave> Joel, click the icon and select the one you want. fairly easy
[15:28] <verodeb> ty OerHeks
[15:28] <Guest42577> hi everyone
[15:28] <lindw0rm> * 1/10th of a second
[15:28] <verodeb> is this smem more accurate to measure memory used by a process in real time?
[15:28] <Joel> ObrienDave, it gives me a directory listing when I do that, not a choice of icons.
[15:28] <ObrienDave> lindw0rm, ok, i'm curious, why every 1710th of a second, particularly?
[15:29] <lindw0rm> 1/10th, sry
[15:29] <ObrienDave> Joel, hmm, sec
[15:30] <lindw0rm> ObrienDave i argued that as well. they have build a queue script taht they want to have fired at that rate.
[15:30] <ObrienDave> Joel, strange, MenuLibre gives me the option to choose an Icon from a directory
[15:31] <ObrienDave> Joel, i'm using Xubuntu
[15:31] <Joel> ObrienDave, I have no idea where the path to the icon would be :\
[15:31] <Guest42577> i have a problem I can not seem to extract a zip file
[15:32] <Guest42577> on ubuntu 14.04
[15:32] <ObrienDave> Joel, sorry, i wouldn't know where it is either
[15:32] <Joel> ObrienDave, no worries, just a reminder of why linux as a desktop is so painful
[15:33] <ObrienDave> Joel, beats Windows ;P
[15:34] <manlin> lindw0rm: script it with infinite while loop and sleep command. i think sleep command will accept floating point arguments. sleep 0.1 is 1/10th of a second which is 100 milliseconds
[15:34] <Joel> ObrienDave, not really :P
[15:35] <pbx> oh goody, platform war talk in #ubuntu
[15:35] <ObrienDave> Joel, most here would disagree with you :)
[15:35] <Joel> pbx <3
[15:35] <ObrienDave> anyway, that's getting OT
[15:35] <Joel> pbx want to argue which pbx is the best next? ;)
[15:38] <pavlos> Guest42577, from a command line you can test the integrity ... unzip -t <zipfile>
[15:39] <OerHeks> Tayl fix your connection please
[15:41]  * genii feeds k1l more cookies
[15:42] <Guest41965> ls
[15:42] <Quatroking> quick question, not sure if this is the right place but I don't know where else to ask: how does a dir-info file look like?
[15:42] <Quatroking> I've googled it but can't find any examples
[15:43] <Quatroking> also, I'm understanding it right that they provide metadata for directories, correct?
[15:44] <OerHeks> never heard of such dir info file
[15:45] <Quatroking> a python script I use to generate html directory listings for my public dropbox folder mentions it, I assumed it was used in more cases than just this
[15:46] <EriC^^> Quatroking: stat <dir> shows some info
[15:47] <sacarlson> Quatroking: just ls -l  provides some added info
[15:47] <afidegnum> hello, using apache ant, I am trying to build an installation and I am faced with Buildfile build.xml does not exist, build failed. how do i fix that ?
[15:47] <Quatroking> sacarlson, not sure if that's the same thing though
[15:48] <EriC^^> Quatroking: seems a bit odd, directories are file themselves, why would there be another file that has info on them anyways
[15:48] <Quatroking> "If a directory contains a file with dir-info in it's name (dir-name, dir-name.txt, dir-name.html, - all these names are valid) the contents of the file will be used in the index.html as and additional information about directory content."
[15:48] <sacarlson> afidegnum: is it some customized apache?  why isn't apt-get install apache ;  good enuf?
[15:49] <Quatroking> EriC^^, I could see people using metadata files for their folders indicating folder usage and stuff
[15:49] <afidegnum> well, I am trying to install openmeetings and I am required to install apache ant
[15:49] <EriC^^> Quatroking: i think this pertains to the program or service rather than linux itself
[15:50] <Quatroking> alright, I thought it was a linux thing seeing how a LOT of linux programs use readme/setup/etc. files without extensions
[15:50] <Quatroking> figured DIR-INFO could be one of those files as well
[15:50] <EriC^^> Quatroking: maybe, who knows, no idea about it though
[15:51] <sacarlson> Quatroking: maybe you mean the file header that sometimes provides added info of the file type
[15:51] <Quatroking> nah, don't think so
[15:52] <sacarlson> Quatroking: as I can play a music file with a double click it doesn't seem to mater what the last 3 leter *.xxx are
[15:53] <Quatroking> yeah but that's in the file itself, something a directory can't have as they're not files
[15:53] <Quatroking> I can't find anything on google about this either, ugghhhh
[16:00] <sacarlson> Quatroking: looks like the most complete info I can find is the stat command
[16:01] <sacarlson> Quatroking: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/display-file-or-file-system-status.html
[16:06] <pixel_> hello
[16:06] <EriC^^> hi
[16:06] <think> hi!
[16:12] <lindw0rm> #who
[16:17] <ybon_burundi> Hi all, I'm in an humanitarian mission in Burundi, with little Internet and electricity, and I'm stuck with a server that won't boot, not sure why, I've tried boot repair, and here is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/8565575/ Any hint by chance?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> ybon_burundi: what happens when you try to boot?
[16:17] <ybon_burundi> (Sorry if I'm disconnected, it may occur at any time due to no electricity :s )
[16:18] <ybon_burundi> ActionParsnip: I've the boot chooser, and when I choose Ubuntu, I'm back to "Lenovo" screen and again to the boot chooser
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> ybon_burundi: have you tested your RAM using Memtest?
[16:19] <ybon_burundi> it occured :/
[16:19] <ybon_burundi> ActionParsnip: I've been out of electricity/internet for one minute, so if you answered something, I've missed it :(
[16:24] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: from what I see in your pastebin it must have booted from your cd drive
[16:25] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: ah, interesting, I think I remember that CD is the first option in the boot order
[16:25] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: but I've also tried to switch that without success
[16:25] <ybon_burundi> btw the cd drive is empty
[16:26] <ybon_burundi> (I'm right now using an USB stick to run ubuntu and access internet)
[16:26] <afidegnum> hello, pls using ubuntu 14, how do i install java JRE?
[16:26] <OerHeks> !java
[16:26] <afidegnum> I am having this error sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javac javac /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_38/bin/javac 1
[16:27] <afidegnum> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javac javac /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_38/bin/javac 1
[16:27] <afidegnum> no wait
[16:27] <afidegnum> update-alternatives: error: alternative path /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_38/bin/javac doesn't exist
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> ybon_burundi: have you tested your RAM using Memtest?
[16:28] <ybon_burundi> ActionParsnip: only the quick test
[16:28] <ybon_burundi> which ran without issues
[16:28] <ybon_burundi> ah
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> afidegnum: webupd8 has a handy ppa to install oracle java
[16:29] <ybon_burundi> I've used the one from the F12 menu I meant
[16:29] <OerHeks> afidegnum, just use 'sudo update-alternatives --config java" and select the java from menu
[16:29] <OerHeks> see the url from ubottu
[16:30] <afidegnum> can you give me a directive to taht please?
[16:30] <afidegnum> I am installing SDK 6
[16:30] <beginner> hello
[16:30] <afidegnum> java SDK 6
[16:31] <beginner> some one help me ?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> afidegnum: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=webupd8+java+ppa    top link.....
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> beginner: ask and see
[16:31] <beginner> good night or day
[16:32] <OerHeks> afidegnum, java6 is dead ?
[16:32] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I guess it's booting from a usb flash disk on /dev/sdb1  that is booting like a cdrom
[16:32] <afidegnum> no, I am trying to install openmeetings and I am referred to java 6
[16:32] <geirha> best use update-java-alternatives instead
[16:32] <beginner> i install mongo db a desktop machine and use as server. my server can accept all sql loads ?
[16:33] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is mounted on /cdrom when I try to mount /dev/sdb1
[16:33] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, can you please help me
[16:33] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: which seems to be what you are suggesting, right?
[16:33] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: ok so can you mount sda1 and see the contents?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Basketball: without knowing what your issue is, how can I say..
[16:34] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, i have rtcwake on a cronjob except it wont work
[16:34] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: as that looks to be what is normaly to boot ubuntu 14.x
[16:34] <afidegnum> geirha, that's what is giving me proble
[16:34] <afidegnum> problem
[16:34] <beginner> { "system" : { "currentTime" : { "$date" : "Wed Oct 15 19:33:27 2014" },     "hostname" : "server-desktop",     "cpuAddrSize" : 64,     "memSizeMB" : 7870,     "numCores" : 6,     "cpuArch" : "x86_64",     "numaEnabled" : false },   "os" : { "type" : "Linux",     "name" : "Ubuntu",     "version" : "14.04" },   "extra" : { "versionString" : "Linux version 3.13.0-37-generic (buildd@kapok) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) )
[16:34] <afidegnum> I am using ubuntu 14.04
[16:34] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8565782/
[16:35] <beginner> all is ok ?
[16:35] <geirha> afidegnum: update-java-alternatives as opposed to update-alternatives ...
[16:35] <afidegnum> ok
[16:35] <jar0fbeans> i have accidentally removed the internet connections icon from the panel bar on xubuntu. how do i add it again?
[16:35] <beginner> "versionSignature" : "Ubuntu 3.13.0-37.64-generic 3.13.11.7",     "kernelVersion" : "3.13.0-37-generic",     "cpuFrequencyMHz" : "1400.000",     "cpuFeatures" : "fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes xsa
[16:35] <geirha> afidegnum: update-java-alternatives --list  to see the possible choices
[16:36] <geirha> afidegnum: then sudo update-java-alternatives --set "thechoice"
[16:36] <anu7495> gsoc
[16:36] <afidegnum> The program 'update-java-alternatives' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[16:36] <afidegnum> sudo apt-get install java-common
[16:37]  * pinky unlunches
[16:37] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: it seems to have most of what I would expect but has a few strange files that were created today like ??U@@???@8
[16:37] <geirha> afidegnum: so you haven't installed java via apt?
[16:37] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: can this be a side effect of running boot-repair?
[16:38] <ybon_burundi> strange files names, "??", "n?" also
[16:38] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I'm not sure maybe it did some fsk disk fix or something and left some strange files from a partly corupted disk?
[16:38] <ybon_burundi> should I remove them? I don't think they are a problem per se, are they?
[16:38] <FilthyMacNasty> well, if they were put there by a baddie
[16:38] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: disk should be ok, at least I've run the disk test from F12 menu without issue
[16:39] <afidegnum> no,
[16:39] <geirha> ybon_burundi: I'd boot a live cd and fsck on your main filesystem there. odd filename like that may be indicative of a corrupt filesystem
[16:39] <jar0fbeans> i have accidentally removed the internet connections icon from the panel bar on xubuntu. how do i add it again?
[16:39] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I don't think the files would harm anything but it might also indicate that some files maybe missing
[16:39] <afidegnum> geirha, I wanted to install java6 from oracl
[16:39] <ybon_burundi> geirha, sacarlson: ok, thanks
[16:40] <ybon_burundi> should I just run fsck when I'm in /mnt, then?
[16:40] <OerHeks> !java | afidegnum
[16:40] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I think fsck is run when the disk is NOT mounted
[16:40] <geirha> afidegnum: Oh, in what form is that? deb file? tgz file? Isn't there a PPA with oracle java somewhere?
[16:41] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: ah, right, thanks, let me man that :)
[16:41] <geirha> ybon_burundi: the filesystem should NOT be mounted when you check it
[16:41] <beginner> thnx for no help
[16:41] <afidegnum> so with apt-get install, what type of java should I install?
[16:41] <beginner> have nice day
[16:44] <bitzs> hi
[16:45] <sohail-ahmed> I have to show you people my desktop screen shot. Where should I post that screen shot; what's the standard?
[16:45] <ybon_burundi> geirha, sacarlson /dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[16:45] <k1l> !paste | sohail-ahmed
[16:45] <ybon_burundi> so you were right
[16:46] <sohail-ahmed> k1l: thanks
[16:46] <ybon_burundi> geirha, sacarlson: Inode 1977499, i_blocks is 16, should be 8.  Fix<y>?  :)
[16:46] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: cool looks like you found your problem maybe fsck will fix it
[16:47] <v0lksman> where can I look to debug bluetooth headphones?  They connect but half the time no sound, after a bunch of disconnect/reconnect cycles it will finally work...
[16:47] <bitzs> hi
[16:48] <sacarlson> v0lksman: I've had some crapy bluetooth devices that don't work much past 2 feet
[16:48] <sohail-ahmed> At present two of my programs are displaying strange characters at their GUI. The rest of my system is working perfectly alright. For example calibre, I have also reinstalled it in vain. http://imgur.com/jEmiSI6
[16:48] <v0lksman> sacarlson: distance doesn't seem to be an issue at all...just the initial connection
[16:48] <v0lksman> in fact the distance is pretty sweet on this pair
[16:49] <sacarlson> v0lksman: so does it work good on other systems like windows?
[16:49] <v0lksman> yep..no problems with iphone or macbook...just the linux box with an ASUS USB dongle
[16:50] <sacarlson> v0lksman: I'm not sure your the same one but others today were going to try newer versions of bluez
[16:50] <v0lksman> hrm...not me...I just got fed up and decided to ask... :)
[16:50] <kevindf> Hello I've setup a TS3 Music Bot on my Ubuntu 13.04 home server but the music is crackling when playing
[16:51] <kevindf> i've got no RAM problems either, i checked that
[16:51] <CarlFK> what's the difference between node and nodejs-legacy?
[16:52] <reisio> legacy means it isn't supported anymore
[16:52] <reisio> it also means upstream changes their minds a lot and can't be relied upon :)
[16:52] <sacarlson> v0lksman: I'm not sure any of these would be any better https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=bluez
[16:52] <reisio> either that or the devs maintaining that package
[16:52] <ybon_burundi> many many errors :s
[16:52] <john_doe_jr> is it possible to have rest api commands from the terminal?
[16:53] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: oh ya you said your power was unreliable so your disk must be corupted from one of the power crashes
[16:53] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: ah, good suggestion, yeah
[16:54] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: I'm hitting "y" to every problem, is that something I should be warned about?
[16:54] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I think there is a way to say Y to all questions when you run fsck so you don't have to keep answer each of them
[16:55] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: yes, seen in the manual, but now I'm not sure it's a good idea to stop the process in the middle
[16:55] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I don't think you have a choice you will have to try to fix it otherwise you'll just have to reformat and reinstall
[16:55] <ybon_burundi> ok, thanks
[16:55] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I think you can ctrlC out and restart it no problem
[16:55] <sohail-ahmed> At present two of my programs are displaying strange characters at their GUI. The rest of my system is working perfectly alright. For example calibre, I have also reinstalled it in vain. http://imgur.com/jEmiSI6 . Any help???
[16:56] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: ok, thanks again :)
[16:56] <swift110-phone> Hey
[16:57] <bitzs> hi guys
[16:58] <ybon_burundi> oops /dev/sda1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
[16:58] <sacarlson> sohail-ahmed: looks like maybe a language setting
[16:59] <sacarlson> sohail-ahmed: I'm not sure where that is set and I would think all gui would be changed not just 1 or 2
[16:59] <sacarlson> sohail-ahmed: oh a font setting
[17:00] <sacarlson> sohail-ahmed: so why do those 2 gui use a different font?
[17:00] <sohail-ahmed> sacarlson: thanks for responding. No the problem is only in these two. How can I fix that. I never changed their Font seting
[17:00] <sohail-ahmed> no. they both show the same chracters.
[17:00] <bitzs> hi
[17:00] <sohail-ahmed> or you may say the same language
[17:02] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: in panel you seem to use arabic font. maybe that is the issue for the program
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> k1l:  its urdu my native language
[17:03] <bitzs> hi guys hello
[17:03] <bitzs> any one there?
[17:03] <bitzs> guys!
[17:03] <k1l> bitzs: some users are here
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> its not an issue, since initially calibre was working fine
[17:03] <bitzs> ok i am doing testing with clearos
[17:03] <bitzs> :)
[17:04] <k1l> bitzs: please use #test for tests, thanks
[17:05] <genii> !test
[17:12] <King_Arthur> What version of Ubuntu should I use to make it easy to switch between Chrome OS and Ubuntu  leaning towards Lubuntu
[17:12] <hardcore_vazquez> Buenas tardes!
[17:12] <reisio> King_Arthur: shouldn't matter
[17:12] <hardcore_vazquez> estoy buscando asistencia para el chat
[17:13] <k1l> !es | hardcore_vazquez
[17:15] <King_Arthur> reisio can I switch the close buttons in to the other side of the window?
[17:15] <kungfoojoo> hello
[17:15] <reisio> King_Arthur: yup
[17:15] <kungfoojoo> if i wanted to install a package meant for debian, on my ubuntu system: 1, will it work?  2, could it break my computer?  3, will my system become ineligible for support from the official ubuntu community?  4, is there anything else i might need to know?
[17:15] <reisio> King_Arthur: with gnome-tweak-tool, easily, IIRC
[17:15] <reisio> kungfoojoo: 1) maybe 2) it might confuse your package manager / OS 3) only if it does 4) there's always more
[17:16] <bzil> Hi, somebody could help me to do working a video projector picopix 2055 ? With libam soft ?
[17:16] <kungfoojoo> thanks, reisio
[17:16] <reisio> bzil: ...what about it
[17:16] <reisio> kungfoojoo: if you can be more specific than 'a package', you might get more useful info
[17:17] <King_Arthur> thanks reisio!
[17:17] <kungfoojoo> i wish to install iceweasel on my ubuntu 14.04 compputer
[17:17] <bzil> I had install libam 1.5 but he can't work when i luch am7xxx-play -f x11grab -i :0.0
[17:17] <bzil> he say scan_devices: am7xxx device found, index: 0, name: Philips/Sagemcom PicoPix 2055
 <Guest20927> cannot find input format
 <Guest20927> cannot initialize input
 <Guest20927> am7xxx_play faile
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:18] <kungfoojoo> i will just do it via the ppa...  i was wondering if it owuld have been safe to get the .deb from debian's packages
[17:20] <computer1> does anyone happen to know how to speed up transfer to a flash drive in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:20] <hj> helo
[17:21] <Quatroking> sacarlson, hahahahaha, nevermind dude
[17:22] <Quatroking> turns out it just takes the content of any file containing "dir-info" in the filename and puts it in the generated html
[17:25] <kungfoojoo> is it safe to completely remove firefox from Ubuntu?
[17:25] <sacarlson> kungfoojoo: sure
[17:25] <kungfoojoo> thanks
[17:26] <hb9bjq> hello
[17:28] <kungfoojoo> i noticed that some sources recommend using "sudo apt-get --purge auroremove" to completely remove a program, rather than just, "sudo apt-get purge".  In the case of Thunderbird, "--purge autoremove" will remove 235 MB of space, as opposed to "apt-get purge".  Is "--purge autoremove" safe?  Or will i wind up removing something i need?
[17:29] <balrog-k1n> hi, I've upgraded a bunch of packages to their 14.04 versions and graphical login now fails, and this shows up in the lightdm logs: Seat: Failed to find session configuration ubuntu
[17:29] <balrog-k1n> where is the list of sessions available?
[17:29] <k1l> kungfoojoo: autoremove will remove other packages that are not needed anymore, too. only purge will just remove the stuff from that specific package
[17:29] <balrog-k1n> I guess I can just change it in the lightdm config to something else
[17:29] <soonny> hello
[17:30] <balrog-k1n> lightdm.conf says user-session=ubutnu
[17:30] <sacarlson> kungfoojoo: it shouldn't remove anything you need in ether case
[17:32] <computer1> does anyone happen to know how to speed up transfer to a flash drive in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:32] <sacarlson> computer1: compress the data first?
[17:32] <swift110-phone> Hmmm
[17:34] <sacarlson> computer1: I'm better at making it slower by using the slower driver.  it defaults to the fastest driver that the hardware supports.  you may have a faster port on your computer
[17:34] <sacarlson> some computers like mine have both usb 2 and usb 3 ports
[17:34] <computer1> ok ill try
[17:35] <sacarlson> computer1: most flash disks are only usb2 but some fancy new ones might be usb 3
[17:37] <sacarlson> computer1: oh and make sure not to use a usb hub as some are only rated at usb 1
[17:41] <snake> Occupé
[17:45] <userf> spectrwm is very outdated in ubuntu 14.04
[17:47] <userf> best lightwm should by newest version
[17:47] <OerHeks> userf, file a bugreport, never heard of sectrwm before you mentioned it
[17:47] <Pici> userf: Have you filed a bug?
[17:48] <OerHeks> 1.0 > 2.5 is a huge step
[17:48] <userf> Pici: yes, its about usability and new features
[17:49] <Pici> userf: I don't see any new bugs for spectrwm in launchpad.
[17:49] <userf> Pici: becouse it is not bug, just newer package
[17:50] <multihunter> Hello, ipv6 suddenly stopped working on my vps. ping6 returns network unreachable
[17:50] <multihunter> anyone can help?
[17:50] <k1l> userf: file a bug/request on launchpad. then see if the maintainer needs help or if there is any active maintainer at all.
[17:50] <k1l> userf: tl;dr: you want it? help it!
[17:50] <userf> k1l: ok
[17:51] <Pici> userf: Looks like it was only updated to 2.6 in Debian on Sept 9th.
[17:51] <sacarlson> multihunter: my ISP doesn't even support ipv6,  I guess only 10% of trafic uses it and most everything is still reachable
[17:52] <multihunter> sacarlson, it used to work till today!
[17:52] <sacarlson> multihunter: but if you really need it you can setup a gogo account to tunnel into it
[17:52] <multihunter> sacarlson, I have ipv6 for my box. Something's wrong with the server I guess
[17:53] <multihunter> its OVH
[17:53] <darcik> d
[17:55] <darcik> urabura
[17:56] <k1l> !pl | darcik
[17:56] <Corvette> So I created two partitions on my SSD. One for Windows, one for Ubuntu. One is NTFS, the other EXT4. I installed Windows on the NTFS partition first. For some reason it looks like it installed its bootloader on my HDD instead, without asking. I installed Ubuntu on the EXT4 partition, and selected the Ubuntu partition as the GRUB location as well. When I try to boot from ssd, nothing happens, it only boots Windows from the HDD. What do I do
[17:56] <jhutchins> multihunter: How do you know it's not working?
[17:56] <jhutchins> multihunter: Ah, no ping returns.  Can you ping6 localhost?
[17:56] <multihunter> jhutchins, because ping6 ipv6.google.com says network unreachable
[17:57] <multihunter> I figured that it doesnt have any ipv6 loopback set. Can it be the reason?
[17:57] <MMukherjee> !hn
[17:57] <sacarlson> Corvette: maybe you can change the boot order in bios
[17:57] <MMukherjee> !fr
[17:57] <Corvette> scarlson when I try to boot from the SSD nothing happens
[17:57] <MMukherjee> #bn
[17:57] <MMukherjee> !bn*
[17:57] <MMukherjee> !bn
[17:58] <multihunter> jhutchins, I can ping6 localhost
[17:58] <sacarlson> multihunter: ya it's possible it's set not to respond to pings
[17:58] <jhutchins> multihunter: Interesting, it should set up an ipv6 address for loopback automatically.
[17:58] <jhutchins> WHat's the IP6?
[17:58] <multihunter> many :D
[17:59] <multihunter> jhutchins, they're added via a script and too many I cant even see all of them
[17:59] <jhutchins> multihunter: That sounds like a potential problem.
[18:00] <xXBackDoorXX> when start ubuntu 14.10?
[18:00] <streulma> hello we have a Canon network/usb printer/scanner. But scangear in Ubuntu is not good (to gray). Is it good to download a Windows XP Virtual Machine from modern.ie and use this for USB scanning?
[18:00] <sacarlson> multihunter: can you ping6 2404:6800:4001:805::1002   that's google.com
[18:00] <jhutchins> multihunter: Why?  IP based vhosts?
[18:00] <multihunter> sacarlson, no
[18:00] <multihunter> jhutchins, yes
[18:00] <sacarlson> multihunter: then you may not have ipv6 on your ISP today
[18:00] <xXBackDoorXX> when go ubuntu 14.10?
[18:01] <jhutchins> streulma: What you see from a VM is not a reliable indication of USB hardware.
[18:01] <multihunter> sacarlson, anyway to check it?
[18:01] <k1l> xXBackDoorXX: 23.10.2014
[18:01] <MMukherjee> !hindi
[18:01] <Pici> !in
[18:01] <jhutchins> streulma: does sudo lsusb show it?
[18:01] <MMukherjee> !in
[18:02] <MMukherjee> Ah
[18:02] <streulma> jhutchins it works also with Sane, but to grey, in XP is ok
[18:02] <rypervenche> multihunter: Did you get your IPv6 issue resolved?
[18:02] <rypervenche> multihunter: I have IPv6 on my network and can ping your server if you can give me an IP.
[18:02] <sacarlson> multihunter: http://test-ipv6.com/
[18:02] <jhutchins> streulma: I don't know what "to grey" means.
[18:02] <rypervenche> multihunter: I also have an OVH server set up with IPv6 if the problem is server-side.
[18:03] <multihunter> rypervenche, ipv6 is wortking on your server?
[18:03] <daos> Anyone have idea when to expect OpenSSL 1.0.1j for 12.04
[18:03] <daos> ?
[18:03] <rypervenche> multihunter: Yep.
[18:03] <rypervenche> multihunter: Have you ever had IPv6 working on the server or was it working before and not anymore?
[18:04] <carefreehawk> hi guys can i ask something
[18:04] <reisio> carefreehawk: remains to be seen
[18:04] <jhutchins> daos: Should be out already.  OpenSSL's versions don't exactly match the Ubuntu package version.
[18:04] <multihunter> rypervenche, it was working till today
[18:04] <jhutchins> multihunter: What changed?
[18:04] <multihunter> jhutchins, nothing
[18:04] <userf> doge:  Have you filed a bug?
[18:05] <MMukherjee> !hi
[18:06] <sacarlson> multihunter: also see if your dns lookup for ipv6 works   dig AAAA  google.com
[18:06] <ice799> Hi, what is the proper channel to really specific deb packaging questions? I have packaged a program for my Ubuntu system but apt appears to be behaving strangely and I'm not sure where to ask.
[18:06] <Pici> daos: I don't know if we'll get the j version, but it might be patched right into the version we already have.
[18:06] <daos> jhutchins: I just updated my system and the package was apparently built on Jun 20 2014
[18:06] <jhutchins> daos: Were you talking about the hartbleed vulnerability or the newly announced poodle problem?
[18:06] <daos> Pici: ah--would that be announced in the security notices?
[18:06] <daos> not seeing anything there yet
[18:06] <daos> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[18:07] <streulma> jhutchins gray?
[18:07] <multihunter> sacarlson, dns works fine
[18:07] <Pici> daos: It should be.
[18:07] <rypervenche> So multihunter doesn't have IPv6 on his home network.
[18:07] <streulma> I have many ipv6 on hosting :D
[18:07] <tafa2> ipv6 confuses the hell out of me
[18:08] <tafa2> but the guys on #ipv6 are really helpful
[18:08] <Pici> jhutchins: the new problem probably, new upstream packages just landed today.
[18:08] <daos> Pici: jhutchins: so the fact that I'm not seeing anything realted to OpenSSL in the security notices yet indicates that they haven't incorporated that patch. Is that a correct assumption?
[18:08] <sacarlson> ice799: I've created deb packages but can't use apt to install it I use sudo gdebi packagename.deb
[18:08] <multihunter> rypervenche, I have some bots on my server that are connected to irc with ipv6 (to have custom vhosts). Today they ping timed out and when I checked the server I reallized something's wrong with its ipv6.
[18:08] <Pici> daos: That is correct.
[18:08] <jhutchins> Pici: Are you refering to CVE-2014-3566?
[18:08] <rypervenche> multihunter: Ok, so they're going from your server to an IRC server, that is different.
[18:08] <daos> Pici: OK cool, thanks. I'll keep my eyes on USN for now. Thank you very much for your help :)
[18:08] <daos> Have a good day!
[18:09] <multihunter> yes rypervenche
[18:09] <Pici> jhutchins: yes. 3513, 3566, and 3567.
[18:09] <rypervenche> multihunter: Can you paste the output of "ip a" and of your interfaces file to a pastebin please?
[18:13] <jhutchins> Pici: No patch available, it's a configuration issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/537196/how-do-i-patch-workaround-sslv3-poodle-vulnerability-cve-2014-3566
[18:13] <multihunter> rypervenche, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8566318/
[18:14] <codylmoore> hi
[18:14] <codylmoore> hi
[18:15] <multihunter> btw I can't ping the gateway
[18:15] <rypervenche> multihunter: In that case, restart networking.
[18:15] <codylmoore> what?
[18:15] <codylmoore> http://www.facebook.com
[18:15] <codylmoore> v
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <unopaste> codylmoore you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:15] <SchrodingersScat> I don't think apache2 in ubuntu has ssl by default anyway
[18:16] <sacarlson> SchrodingersScat: I think the modules are there but no certs
[18:17] <codylmoore> hey im sorry for spammin.g it wont happen again
[18:18] <aethersis> hi
[18:18] <SchrodingersScat> hello
[18:18] <codylmoore> hwo do you request to kick people off a chat server?
[18:19] <codylmoore> hwo do you request to kick people off a chat server?
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> codylmoore: what protocol chat?
[18:19] <codylmoore> liek if someone is spamming hwo do you requestr to kick them off
[18:19] <codylmoore> *like
[18:19] <codylmoore> *request\
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> ask an op of the channel
[18:20] <pedahzur> So, I was here yesterday with this question: https://askubuntu.com/questions/537166/usb-audio-device-not-fully-working-after-hotplug  A friend found what appears to be a related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/841433  So, I guess my question now is: how do I slow down the initialization (udev rule? pulseaudio config?) so the usb device is fully initialized when pulseaudio goes to look at it?
[18:20] <codylmoore> ok
[18:22] <jhutchins> multihunter: I agree with the idea of restarting networking, but that often causes problems with multiple-alias interfaces, and if the problem is that something in your networking config is broken you might loose connectivity to the server.  It's a windows solution, but I think a reboot might actually be safer.
[18:23] <jhutchins> multihunter: Who set up the multi-ip configuration in the first place?
[18:23] <multihunter> jhutchins, myself :)
[18:23] <jhutchins> multihunter: If you can give me one of the ipv6 addresses I can try to ping it.
[18:25] <multihunter> jhutchins, I did that myself. Its not pinging
[18:25] <sarnex> hi, i want to use the canonical x staging PPA to install xserver 1.16 on ubuntu 14.04, how can i do this without it breaking aton of packages and uninstalling many core compenents?
[18:26] <multihunter> jhutchins, if I restart networking my other services currently connected to irc (ipv4) will be disconnected, right?
[18:27] <pedahzur> multihunter: Not necessarily...I've restarted networking on an SSH connected host, and it just retries until networking is up, then I get a burst of text from the restart command.
[18:27] <sacarlson> sarnex: maybe try it in a virtualbox system and see what the results are there before you try it on your system that you presently use
[18:27] <sarnex> sacarlson: ok i will try it
[18:27] <sarnex> i wish there was a simple way to do it though
[18:28] <sacarlson> sarnex: I'm sure there is if someone knew the answer
[18:28] <sarnex> yeah hopefully someone knows
[18:33] <Pici> jhutchins:fyi, there is a small patch for 2014-3566 being worked on right now. The release will also include changes for 3513, 3567 and 3568.
[18:35] <jhutchins> multihunter: Some services can ignore a restart of the connection, but some might drop.
[18:36] <multihunter> well I just lost connection to it :D
[18:36] <jhutchins> multihunter: What pedahzur said.
[18:36] <multihunter> rebooting now from console
[18:36] <jhutchins> Pici: According to what I've read, you have to update the client too, so might as well just disable SSLv3.
[18:36] <pedahzur> multihunter: Hmm...do you have a server-keepalive packet set to a really short interval?  It's always kept up ssh connections...but I suppose other types could vary.
[18:37] <multihunter> pedahzur, dont know.
[18:37] <multihunter> BTW reboot didnt solve the ping6 problem
[18:41] <sacarlson> multihunter: I'm not sure this would help but apt-get install gogoc  if that works then would the prove that the problem is the ISP?
[18:43] <gravy_> How do I uninstall a package installed from source?
[18:43] <gravy_> Or tarball?
[18:43] <pedahzur> gravy_: Did you do make/make install?
[18:43] <gravy_> I may have.
[18:43] <multihunter> sacarlson, I'll send them a ticket. Thats better
[18:43] <gravy_> I did mess with that.
[18:43] <sacarlson> gravy_: you sure that's the only option  did you check ppa?
[18:43] <gravy_> I did apt-get remove.
[18:44] <gravy_> So I must have installed from source or an installer tarball
[18:44] <pedahzur> gravy_: If you did, and still have the source, you might be able to go into that source directory and do 'make uninstall'  Some maintainers include an 'uninstall' target in their Makefiles.
[18:44] <gravy_> .THe directory is not there anymore.
[18:45] <gravy_> Oh, I found it with synaptic.
[18:46] <Corvette> How do you make USB 3.0 ports work in Ubuntu? Do you have to turn off xHCI
[18:47] <Jordan_U> Corvette: They should work out of the box, if they're not for you then that is a bug and how to fix it will depend on the details of the bug.
[18:47] <gravy_> It worked.
[18:48] <gravy_> Can someone help me set up Lazarus?
[18:48] <Corvette> Jordan_U I see. Suppose I'll have to live without them
[18:48] <gravy_> So that I can make GUI apps in it.
[18:48] <Jordan_U> Corvette: I wouldn't give up so easily :) What version of Ubuntu are you using? Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[18:48] <sacarlson> Corvette: I would guess if a usb 2.0 device is on the usb3.0 port that it would be forced to run as usb 2.0
[18:49] <sacarlson> Corvette: for all devices on that port
[18:50] <Corvette> Hm well before I tackle that... i switched my boot mode to UEFI only and now my CD drives don't work.
[18:53] <pedahzur> gravy_: Never used it, sorry.  Do you have a particular attachment to Object Pascal? :)
[18:54] <gravy_> No, I need it for school.
[18:55] <gravy_> Lazarus worked perfectly fine in Arch linux.
[18:55] <pedahzur> gravy_: Wow...they are still teaching Pascal?
[18:55] <gravy_> Pascal is a beginner's language created to teach the concepts of programming.
[18:55] <pedahzur> gravy_: There is a lazarus-ide-1.0.10 package in Ubuntu.
[18:55] <gravy_> I use C++.
[18:55] <gravy_> It is broken. I cannot make GUI applications in it.
[18:55] <gravy_> ANd there are errors on startup.
[18:56] <pedahzur> gravy_: Might this help: http://mapopa.blogspot.com/2012/08/lazarus-10-release-candidate-2.html
[18:57] <gravy_> Lazarus is missing packages when it installs.
[18:59] <pedahzur> Even when following those instructions?
[18:59] <sacarlson> gravy_: looks like I see it in ppa https://launchpad.net/~paul-climbing/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:59] <gravy_> sacarlson, you're saying I should install it from that repo?
[18:59] <gravy_> pedahzur, that looks like voodoo.
[19:00] <sacarlson> gravy_: if it's not in the standard repo then that's always my secound choice it's it's in ppa, if not there then you can try there deb package they also have
[19:00] <pedahzur> sacarlson: That's a really old version. Even old than what is in Ubuntu Universe right now.
[19:00] <pedahzur> *older
[19:00] <gravy_> I tried downloading the .deb package as well.
[19:01] <sjmikem> I'm getting some odd text  flickering in TT in Pidgin and Gedit, like it thinks the windowsize is constantly changing.  I'm using NVidia Geforce 620 w/ 340.46 drivers installed from Nvidia website.  ANy suggestions?
[19:01] <michael_j_p> My Google Chrome quit working after upgrading to 14.x   -   any suggestions?
[19:02] <sjmikem> Also, using dual monitors if it matters
[19:02] <jamesheston> I've got a USB to SATA cord, and I'm trying to pull some coding files off the hard drive of my Mac that just died so I can pick up where I left off. The drive shows up, but after a certain point, I'm lost permissions to navigate through the drive's files. I'm assuming this is because it using a different journaling than my Linux machine. I'm wondering if there's any danger of messing up the drive if I mount it in -rw
[19:02] <jamesheston> format. Anyone have any experience with this?
[19:03] <Jordan_U> jamesheston: You can't write safely to a journaled hfsplus filesystem from within linux, but you really shouldn't need to write to the fs to access the files on it.
[19:03] <sacarlson> gravy_: ya your lazarus looks to be in the stable repo already ,  just try that
[19:04] <nomic> mount drive from live cd
[19:04] <gravy_> sacarlson, hwo do I remove it afterwards if it does not work?
[19:04] <pedahzur> jamesheston: I'd mount it ro, as root.  If you are getting permission errors at that point, there might be some corruption.
[19:04] <pedahzur> gravy_: apt-get remove
[19:04] <sacarlson> gravy_: sudo apt-get remove lazarus
[19:04] <gravy_> oh
[19:04] <gravy_> ohhk
[19:05] <gravy_> Can I do a one-time only ppa install?
[19:05] <jamesheston> so, sudo mount -ro /dev/sdb1 /media/usb/
[19:05] <jamesheston> something like that?
[19:05] <Jordan_U> jamesheston: That should work, yes. Then you may need to use sudo to copy some of the files.
[19:05] <jamesheston> God it would suck if it was corrupted.
[19:06] <jamesheston> I've been really slack about backing things up last few months. Would be like 3 months of development down the drain.
[19:06] <jamesheston> Oh well, at least my recent large projects are repod I guess.
[19:07] <jamesheston> So, if I'm getting permissions errors when navigating around the drive it's most likely because of data corruption?
[19:07] <antoniodmora> mornig everyone
[19:07] <antoniodmora> do you know what happened to ubuntu reconstructor??
[19:08] <Trinityfan>  /join #discorsi-sull-informatica-in-generale
[19:09] <LucidGuy> Ok whats up with java via firefox on Ubuntu .. follwed instruction to install icedtea-plugin, yet website still claim I don't have a new enough version installed.
[19:09] <jhutchins> !java
[19:09] <OerHeks> antoniodmora, "LAST UPDATED ON:December 19th, 2011"  dead project
[19:10] <Quatroking> does python happen to cache scripts?
[19:10] <Trinityfan>  /join #discorsi-sull-informatica-in-generale
[19:10] <YokoBR> hi guys,
[19:10] <OerHeks> Trinityfan, please don't spam, thanks
[19:11] <OerHeks> hi YokoBR
[19:11] <YokoBR> i can't use any torrent behind a proxy. Seems that the system wide proxy settings is not working.
[19:12] <antoniodmora> OerHeks: yes, I saw... any other alternative to reconstructor??
[19:12] <OerHeks> !uck
[19:12] <antoniodmora> thanks ubottu
[19:14] <antoniodmora> and what if I want to install the customized ubuntu??
[19:14] <OerHeks> antoniodmora, burn the iso on dvd, or make an usb, and enjoy ?
[19:15] <joshcrawling> Hi!
[19:15] <sacarlson> antoniodmora: they should install just like the normal ubuntu with usb or cdrom iso
[19:15] <irssi_> Hi, I would like to install a package delivered by a ppa. But do not provide this package for my older version (13.04) How to download anyway? (I think the package will run on my version)
[19:15] <joshcrawling> Someone can tell me how I change a key on vim? Like when I put - change to _
[19:15] <antoniodmora> ok, let me try
[19:15] <sjmikem> any help for my video flickering issues?
[19:15] <antoniodmora> thanks a lot OerHeks and sacarlson
[19:16] <sacarlson> irssi_: maybe provide us with the name of the package would be useful
[19:16] <Jordan_U> !remaster | antoniodmora
[19:17] <irssi_> sacarlson: 0ad
[19:17] <k1l> irssi_: 13.04 is heavy security issue. you should upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04
[19:19] <irssi_> k1l: I know, but I do not have time to do the update now. And how to bypass the version check with apt-get me interested
[19:19] <Jordan_U> irssi_: You know all of those major vulnerabilities that have been found recently? Ubuntu 13.04 doesn't have fixes for any of them (and is also missing fixes for less publicised vulnerabilities). Seriously, you need to upgrade.
[19:19] <sjmikem> is there other information I can provide that might give you enough info to help?
[19:19] <k1l> irssi_: you got time to play a game but not to update to a secure OS? o_O
[19:19] <OerHeks> irssi_, i am not sure the eolupgrade trick solves ppa issues too
[19:19] <sacarlson> irssi_: some kind of graphic game,  you could try install the deb file and see what dependancies it needs that might not be present
[19:20] <k1l> irssi_: usually PPAs provide their packages only for specific ubuntu releases. in most times its that releases that are still supported
[19:20] <Aut0Exec> h
[19:21] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: hahahaha
[19:21] <Aut0Exec> :)
[19:21] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: you really went over here?
[19:21] <Aut0Exec> oh yeah
[19:21] <Aut0Exec> i love ubuntu man
[19:21] <Aut0Exec> always have... always will
[19:22] <Aut0Exec> its my first love... even when I cheat on her, I always come back
[19:22] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: I like it too, although the bleeding edge is hard to resist
[19:22] <Aut0Exec> you can make ubuntu "bleeding edge"
[19:22] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: and where is the AUR
[19:22] <Aut0Exec> just uncheck the dreaded repos
[19:23] <irssi_> k1l: Yes, fully reconfigure a machine takes time, but the upgrade is on my todo weekend k1l :)
[19:23] <Aut0Exec> rsrsl: also... sometimes "bleeding edge" is not that great
[19:23] <balance> hi, I'm running Ubuntu console and wondering if I can start a new window? Like you can have several desktops
[19:23] <Aut0Exec> I'm after stability
[19:24] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: hahahaha true! I locked myself out of X today; a fucked up conf merge XD
[19:24] <Aut0Exec> exactly
[19:24] <Aut0Exec> thats what I hate about arch
[19:24] <Aut0Exec> come back to ubuntu brother....we miss you
[19:24] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: but you can't beat systemd
[19:24] <Jordan_U> rsrsl: Aut0Exec: Please keep on topic for this channel (ubuntu support questions and answers), and please watch your language.
[19:25] <Aut0Exec> Jordan_U: sorry
[19:25] <Aut0Exec> rsrsl: pm
[19:25] <rsrsl> Jordan_U: sorry
[19:25] <metallic> Jordan_U = moderator?
[19:25] <Aut0Exec> metallic: apparently
[19:26] <zetheroo> Ubuntu 14.04 - I changed the host IP and now want to restart networking so I don't have to restart the system
[19:26] <zetheroo> service networking restart doesn't seem to work
[19:26] <Jordan_U> metallic: Yes, though you don't need to be an operator to ask people to follow the channel guidelines :)
[19:27] <zetheroo> also tried with reload
[19:27] <zetheroo> no joy
[19:27] <Fishscene> sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[19:27] <zetheroo> ok will try that
[19:27] <Fishscene> zetheroo: There's a couple of other options, possibly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/441619/how-to-successfully-restart-a-network-without-reboot-over-ssh
[19:33] <Will2Kill> HI all
[19:34] <bprompt_> allo
[19:36] <Jordan_U> jamesheston: No, definitely not. It's because the user ID of the user that owns the files is different from your Ubuntu user's user ID. That's why I said that you might need to use sudo to copy some of the files. Are you trying to backup all of the data on the drive, or specific already known directories, or do you need to be able to browse around to determine what you want to copy?
[19:37] <Will2Kill> I'm hoping someone with a lot of Grub knowledge could help. Simple description. I have Asus x200 netbook (Secure boot/CSM option in bios), trying to end up with Win 8.1 / Ubuntu dual boot(have done it many times in past).Seem to have problems now.
[19:38] <Will2Kill> I have Win8.1 installed and Ubuntu on two partitions.(tried reinstalling Ubuntu 3x to fix this problem)
[19:39] <jost> Is there some way to find out who last changed the permissions of a directory or file
[19:39] <jost> ?
[19:39] <Will2Kill> For some reason Grub is not installing on the windows partition
[19:39] <Jordan_U> jost: Not directly, though by the permissions you can rule out some users, as they would not have been able to. What is your end goal?
[19:40] <sacarlson> jost: only 3 posible the owner ,  the group if permisions set to allow and root
[19:40] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Grub should never be installed on the Windows partition. What symptoms are you actually seeing that indicate a problem? What happens when you try to boot?
[19:40] <jost> Jordan_U: sacarlson: then its root... shit.
[19:40] <Jordan_U> jost: Please watch your language.
[19:41] <jost> Jordan_U: will do, sorry
[19:41] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: I am not getting a Grub menu
[19:41] <jost> Attacker changes mode of / to 0777 every few minutes, and I want to know how
[19:42] <Will2Kill> I think part of the problem is where the partitions are at on the HD.
[19:42] <Will2Kill> Whats the best way to post them?
[19:42] <Will2Kill> I have installed ubuntu 3x without it booting with a grub menu
[19:42] <loa> hello.
[19:43] <loa> how i can move apparmor log from syslog to different file?
[19:44] <loa> i tried this file /etc/apparmor/logprof.conf
[19:44] <sacarlson> Will2Kill: maybe you choose the partion to instead of the drive to install the mbr or is that even posible?
[19:45] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Is this a BIOS based or UEFI based machine? Do you have more than one hard drive?
[19:45] <sacarlson> Will2Kill: oh did you get that error code thing at boot?
[19:47] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Just one harddrive. It's a Netbook. Not sure about the question. I see EFI options in the bios
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Then it uses UEFI. Are you currently booted from an Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[19:48] <Will2Kill> I can boot up to Ubuntu using a Grub2 rescue DVD I made
[19:48] <Will2Kill> I can boot up with a live session
[19:48] <Will2Kill> supergrub2
[19:49] <Will2Kill> dvd
[19:50] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Please boot into your installed Ubuntu system using supergrub then, then run "sudo efibootmgr" and pastebin the output.
[19:51] <NCS_One> hi
[19:52] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: will do, thank you so much
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: You're welcome.
[19:53] <dylan7> thanks
[19:54] <dikim33> I have one machine with gcc-4.6.4 installed but some other ubuntu machines with gcc-4.6.3. They are all ubuntu-12.04 LTS and I believe that they use the same apt-get source and I updated the repo cache with “apt-get update” all.
[19:54] <dikim33> Do you know why this kind of thing happens and how to upgrade 4.6.3 to 4.6.4?
[19:54] <demarco> Hi all, I have two machines of the same release. ``apt-get update'' fails on one but not the other; certain Packages files are 404'ing. But when I ``wget'' the 404'ing URL on that machine, I can download the Packages.gz just fine. Where do I look to see what's going on with apt-get?
[19:55] <guntbert> demarco: 1st step: sudo apt-get update   to refresh the database
[19:55] <guntbert> demarco: sory, I misread
[19:55] <demarco> So ``W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.rackspace.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found''; yet ``wget'' on that URL returns successfully.
[19:56] <NCS_One> anyone using MX518 successfully get the DPI buttons working has normal buttons?
[19:56]  * demarco grins at guntbert
[19:56] <demarco> There's nothing in /var/log/apt/*.log
[19:57] <snoop> when I was updating ubuntu, the computer froze and I had to do a hard reboot. After that, my computer has been running extremely slow and i cannot use alot of applications. The font changes to a different font and then back to the original font again on my desktop. there are also error messages tha tpop up saying 'system program problem detected".  I also cannot access any external usb drives after this happened so I am unable to backup
[19:58] <Jordan_U> snoop: It sounds like you may have a hardware problem, possibly a power supply going bad. Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[19:58] <demarco> Anybody have any ideas about why apt-get update would fail with 404 despite wget fetching the Packages.gz just fine?
[19:58] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: my guess would be an incomplete update.
[19:59] <snoop> if the power supply is bad why can i turn the computer on and off
[20:01] <Jordan_U> snoop: Power supplies often don't die outright, they will first fail to give their full wattage of output, causing some components to not get enough power (the external USB drives not working is what makes me suspect this is happening). And of course it could be an entirely different problem, either way "dmesg" will hopefully be enlightening. Please also pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install".
[20:02] <chridal> Hello, I could really use some help with a DHCP server running in production. 1,318 users depend on it, so I can't mess up
[20:02] <Naphatul> do i have to restart network manager for dns server changes to take effect?
[20:02] <chridal> I am getting: inux-image-generic-pae : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic-pae but it is not installed
[20:03] <Jordan_U> chridal: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to ask.
[20:03] <chridal> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[20:03] <Jordan_U> chrissg: You're welcome :)
[20:04] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Wasn't able to boot into Ubuntu(It said it couldn't mount) but I was able to get the output of "efibootmgr"
[20:04] <Will2Kill> it's in a terminal not online
[20:04] <Naphatul> apparently yes it needs to be restared
[20:05] <rubick> Is it recommended to use mariadb vs mysql for 14.04 server?
[20:05] <OerHeks> rubick,  that is up to you
[20:05] <Kratos> Ciao a tutti
[20:05] <Kratos> !list
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Please paste the output into http://pastebin.ubuntu.com then post a link to the output here.
[20:06] <bprompt> ciao Kratos
[20:06] <Naphatul> does networkmanager really have to be restarted every time i change dns or is there a workaround?
[20:06] <Kratos> !list
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Naphatul: How are you changing your DNS configuration?
[20:07] <Naphatul> Jordan_U, through the UI
[20:10] <Jordan_U> Naphatul: I thought that updated as you changed settings, if not I would expect just disconnecting and reconnecting to that network would cause the new settings to come into affect.
[20:12] <Corvette> Is it bad to have your /home partition on a different drive
[20:12] <Jordan_U> Corvette: No.
[20:12] <jhutchins> Corvette: No known issues.
[20:13] <k1l> Corvette: no. just make sure the drive is plugged in when booting :)
[20:14] <Vachaun22> ubuntu 14.04 LTS with nVidia drivers, anyone have an issue with their display not staying in low power mode when idle?
[20:14] <jhutchins> Corvette: The main reason for having so many different partitions stems from using drives that were too small to hold all the needed partitions.
[20:14] <Corvette> Okay. In doing my ubuntu install, I installed / to sda1, swap to sda2, (windows is my sda3). The location for the bootloader I selected as sda. Is this right
[20:14] <jhutchins> Corvette: That's "small" in the sense of capacity, the actual drives were the size of washing machines.
[20:15] <jhutchins> Corvette: Yes, that's correct.
[20:15] <Corvette> Does there need to be free space on the drive for installing the bootloader to work
[20:15] <Corvette> Or will it find space
[20:15] <jhutchins> Corvette: It goes in the MBR which is reserved anyway.
[20:15] <Corvette> jhutchins so is that where the windows bootloader is as well
[20:16] <jhutchins> Corvette: Yes, that's why it gets overwritten, or why grub does if you reinstall Windows.
[20:16] <Corvette> So having done that, windows bootloader should be gone
[20:16] <Vachaun22> and also, what's the point of the bar on the right hand side of the screen?  i can't run any of the applications that are on it by clicking their icons on that bar
[20:16] <jhutchins> Corvette: The initial stage, yes.
[20:17] <Corvette> jhutchins so provided that is the case, the machine should boot into ubuntu, and then I can do sudo grub repair and it will find the windows loader, right?
[20:17] <jhutchins> Corvette: It's actually possible (or was ca NT4) to chainload grub from the Windows MBR, but it's a real pain to set up and grub is just easier to deal with.
[20:17] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Will2Kill
[20:18] <Jordan_U> Corvette: There will be an entry for Windows in the grub menu from the beginning, barring any problems.
[20:19] <underground> hey I am wondering if linux has something like spotify
[20:20] <k1l> the question should be if spotify got some client for linux.
[20:20] <Vachaun22> what's the new bar on the right side of the unity desktop?
[20:21] <Will2Kill> .
[20:21] <k1l> Vachaun22: which bar?
[20:21] <Vachaun22> it looks like some kind of launcher....translucent
[20:21]  * OerHeks only has a bar on the left side
[20:21] <Vachaun22> has icons for firefox, terminal, and about 6 others....
[20:22] <Vachaun22> i only had on the left until i upgraded last night
[20:22] <k1l> Vachaun22: are you sure about the "right"handside?
[20:22] <Kaedenn> Can I have apt-cache search <package> denote which packages I have installed in the listing, so I don't apt-get install something I already installed?
[20:22] <Kaedenn> Without writing a script that does a dpkg-query on each line.
[20:22] <Guest46803> hello world
[20:22] <OerHeks> Vachaun22, can you show us a screenshot please?
[20:22] <k1l> Vachaun22: can you make a screenshot?
[20:22] <Vachaun22> where can i post a screenshot to?
[20:23] <OerHeks> imgur.com
[20:23] <EriC^^> imgur.com
[20:23] <Vachaun22> ok
[20:25] <squinty> Kaedenn: fwiw, i still use aptitude >  aptitude search <program> | grep "i "
[20:25] <Kaedenn> squinty: The folks over at #debian said the same exact thing. Thank you.
[20:26] <squinty> Kaedenn:  yw.  :)
[20:27] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Ok , paste bin 8567018
[20:28] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Ok , paste bin pastebin.ubuntu.com/8567018
[20:29] <Vachaun22> imgur.com/IVPFuaj
[20:29] <snoop> when I was updating ubuntu, the computer froze and I had to do a hard reboot. After that, my computer has been running extremely slow and i cannot use alot of applications. The font changes to a different font and then back to the original font again on my desktop. there are also error messages tha tpop up saying 'system program problem detected".  I also cannot access any external usb drives after this happened so I am unable to backup
[20:29] <k1l> Vachaun22: did you install a launcher? that is not the standard unity launcher. that is on the lefthand side
[20:30] <Vachaun22> k1l: no, it appeared after i upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 last night
[20:30] <Jordan_U> snoop: Are you having trouble pastebining the output of "dmesg" and "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[20:30] <k1l> Vachaun22: can you pastebin please "ps ax" ?
[20:31] <OerHeks> Vachaun22, that would be docky >> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/docky
[20:31] <snoop> yes because my comp is so slow
[20:33] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: OK, it looks from that like the Ubuntu entry just isn't first in the boot order but the fact that you said in PM that you deleted the partition containing /boot/efi/ worries me. Why did you do this? What EFI System Partition is Windows using? You need to have an EFI system partition mounted to /boot/efi/, and configured to do so automatically in your /etc/fstab.
[20:34] <Vachaun22> k1l: and OerHeks: it was wbar, must be a remnant of a much older time... i will have to figure out how to edit start up apps in ubunut (i don't normally run ubuntu, so everything is in a different place for me)
[20:34] <Jordan_U> Vachaun22: My guess is that you installed the laucher a long time ago and forgot about it (maybe it didn't work due to a bug), and the upgrade is just actually showing it (maybe the bug that prevented it from showing before was fixed).
[20:34] <Vachaun22> now if i can just figure out how to get my monitor to not to flicker on and off when it goes to sleep
[20:35] <Will2Kill> Jordan_I: I used a Windows Rescue CD I made and it restored the bootmanager. EFI or something.
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Vachaun22: You should be able to just "sudo apt-get remove wbar".
[20:35] <Will2Kill> At first I wasn't able to boot Windows or Ubuntu
[20:35] <Will2Kill> after using repair on Rescue DVD I made with that windows, it restored something. Able to boot windows now
[20:36] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: OK. Please run boot info script: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[20:36] <Vachaun22> Jordan_U: yeah, i just disabled it from starting for right now
[20:37] <Vachaun22> ok, time to exercise.  i will muck with the screen not staying asleep later
[20:39] <cinvoke> trying to get ssh to use my local config file.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: That will tell me what ESP Windows is using, then we can configure your /etc/fstab to mount that same partition to /boot/efi/, then (and no earlier) we can run "sudo grub-install" to re-install grub.
[20:40] <Kaedenn> My ubuntu 13.10 box is still vulnerable to shellshock and there are no updates listed. Has it been EOL'd?
[20:40] <k1l> Kaedenn: yes
[20:40] <Jordan_U> !eol | Kaedenn
[20:40] <Kaedenn> Can I get an update for this security issue without doing a dist-upgrade?
[20:41] <k1l> Kaedenn: upgrade to 14.04 and use LTS (like 14.04) in future if you dont want to upgrade that often
[20:41] <k1l> Kaedenn: no.
[20:41] <OerHeks> Kaedenn, upgrade please
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Kaedenn: There are many other unfixed vulnerabilities in 13.10. You need to upgrade.
[20:41] <k1l> Kaedenn: it doesnt make sence at all to just close 1 security issue since 2 months and let the other 1000 security issues untouched.
[20:41] <Kaedenn> Every single dist-upgrade I've ever done has resulted in the system being unstable. >_<
[20:42] <Jordan_U> Kaedenn: Have you followe the upgrade notes when upgrading?
[20:42] <Kaedenn> I just used the UI.
[20:42] <k1l> Kaedenn: if you got that special setups (the standard upgrade gets automated testing and works) stay on LTS in first place.
[20:42] <Kaedenn> I bought this laptop from System76 and it was preinstalled with 13.10 >_<
[20:44] <OerHeks> Kaedenn, that makes no sense, you haven't done any upgrade yet, and complain about beiing unstable?
[20:44] <Kaedenn> I've upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 in the past, 9.10 to 10.04 on my previous laptop, then that to 11.04.
[20:45] <Jordan_U> Kaedenn: I predict that this upgrade will go better than your others. Still, I would recommend making an Ubuntu 14.04 liveUSB to boot from in case something goes wrong, and you can always use it to re-install (which you can do while preserving the contents of /home/, even if it's not on a separate partition).
[20:46] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Ok, pastebin.ubuntu.com/8567093
[20:46] <Pici> Kaedenn: I'm sort of not following, but you keep using the term 'dist-upgrade' when you mean release upgrade.  'dist-upgrades' are not for upgrading to a new release of Ubuntu.
[20:47] <Kaedenn> Pici: I thought dist-upgrade was the command to run.
[20:47] <Kaedenn> Guess not.
[20:47] <Pici> Kaedenn: dist-upgrade just brings in new packages for your current release.  do-release-upgrade upgrades to a new release.
[20:47] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[20:48] <Kaedenn> ...that would explain some of the problems I had.
[20:48] <Pici> Kaedenn: You said you were using the UI though...
[20:48] <k1l> Kaedenn: dont use the old debian way to upgrade a ubuntu. run the gui upgrader or the do-release-upgrade in cli
[20:49] <Kaedenn> 8.10 to 9.04 was with the ui. 10.10 to 11.04 was via the command line.
[20:51] <Kaedenn> Odd, `do-release-upgrade -c` says "No new release found", even when I add -d or -p.
[20:51] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: You have a bizzzare configuration, I have no idea how Windows is booting successfully in this setup (it's not supported by Windows).
[20:52] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Just so it makes sense when looking at the log file.  My current set up is , I have Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu on two different partitions
[20:52] <k1l> Kaedenn: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[20:52] <Kaedenn> Ubuntu 13.10
[20:52] <Will2Kill> I booted into Ubuntu partition using Grub2 dvd,
[20:53] <Will2Kill> In the asus x200 bios, it only had Windows as the boot partition. I think efi part is missing
[20:54] <k1l> Kaedenn: what does the release prompt link to?
[20:54] <Kaedenn> Release prompt? What do you mean?
[20:54] <k1l> Kaedenn: "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" gives you? (last line)
[20:55] <Kaedenn> Prompt=lts
[20:55] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: You currently have no EFI System Partition, yet you have Windows installed on a GPT drive. This configuration is not supported by Windows (though it is by Ubuntu). For Windows you should either have a GPT label with an EFI System Partition, which is fat32, and your machine will boot via UEFI or you should have an msdos label with a "System" partition that is ntfs, and your machine will boot via BIOS.
[20:55] <k1l> Kaedenn: sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades          and then change the last line to normal
[20:55] <Kaedenn> Done.
[20:55] <k1l> ctrl-o, ctrl-x
[20:55] <Kaedenn> (although I prefer vim)
[20:56] <k1l> then re run "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Please test booting Windows again. I want to be sure that this configuration actually is working with Windows.
[20:56] <Kaedenn> There we go, 14.04.1.
[20:56] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Yes, it boots into Windows 8.1
[20:56] <stormzen> I just realized that I have no network interface listed for wlan3 in interfaces, yet that's what I see in ifconfig.  ... Is this because the network manager is handling everything now?
[20:57] <Kaedenn> k1l: I'll upgrade once I have time. I don't at the moment.
[20:57] <Kaedenn> k1l: Thank you.
[20:57] <k1l> Kaedenn: ok. but dont push that too far away :)
[20:57] <s4my> guys where can i find help with making custom icons and themes for ubuntu 14.04+
[20:57] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Couldn't I use Gparted and create the needed partition?
[20:58] <acerspyro> s4my: It's a GNOME icon theme, I think.
[20:58] <ALI_> HELLO Ubuntu team
[20:58] <Finetundra> how do i change to resolution for grub?
[20:58] <acerspyro> ALI_: We are not a team, just ask
[20:58] <ALI_> please , i want driver for Skystar 2 express hd
[20:58] <s4my> acerspyro: well it's unity
[20:58] <acerspyro> s4my: Ooh, then I don't know :3
[20:58] <ALI_> this is card info Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7160 (rev 03)
[20:59] <s4my> acerspyro: are you kidding
[20:59] <s4my> a
[20:59] <s4my> acerspyro: ?
[20:59] <acerspyro> s4my: Didn't mess with Unity, I spent maybe a week with Ubuntu, I come from Arch.
[20:59] <ALI_> and im using Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 LTS  64-bit
[20:59] <tomasm-> I have 14.04 and X seems slow in some regards, ie windows for shutdown prompt, screenshot, etc... I'm guessing it's the wrong display driver. i have a Radeon HD 8210, which is the Kabini chipset, anyone know how I can get the right driver for that? kernel is 3.13.0-35
[21:00] <s4my> acerspyro:  so if we are talking about GNOME where can i find help
[21:00] <acerspyro> ALI_: If there is no driver that suits this card EXACTLY, try to find a driver that supports your card.
[21:00] <acerspyro> s4my: #gnome, I guess.
[21:00] <s4my> acerspyro:  k
[21:00] <s4my> acerspyro:  i'll try that
[21:00] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Yes, but that might break your fragile Windows boot. Right now, unless you have another drive that is connected when you boot Windows but isn't connected now, your computer is booting via BIOS, and Windows is configured to boot via BIOS (even though your original installation of Windows was configured to boot via UEFI). Since you no longer have a UEFI bootloader for Windows, if you add an EFI System Partition your b
[21:00] <s4my> acerspyro:  thanks anyway
[21:01] <acerspyro> ALI_: Otherwise, if nothing supports it, there isn't much we can do other than 1. Ask the manufacturer 2. Wait for a team of highly-trained monkeys to reverse-engineer the chip and make a driver for it
[21:01] <acerspyro> s4my: np
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: To be clear, this is a result of you deleting your EFI System Partition in the first place (which you should not have done) and then following the wrong steps to fix Windows' boot after doing so.
[21:02] <Will2Kill> Ok
[21:02] <ALI_> i'm tired form search if you can login my pc and try to see what you can do
[21:02] <s4my> acerspyro:  sorry to bother but i joined the #gnome channel but no body is there
[21:03] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: I can think of two ways to get Ubuntu booting again, one by setting it up for UEFI, the other by setting it up for BIOS based boot, but there is reason to expect that either of those methods would break Windows booting as it stands now.
[21:03] <acerspyro> s4my: A lot of people in there.
[21:03] <acerspyro> They are AFK.
[21:04] <acerspyro> imo, I'm not suprised, KDE is also often AFK, you need to pick a better time of the day.
[21:04] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: You said that you have another SSD, is that SSD connected when you boot Windows?
[21:04] <ghinzu> probably offtopic, but can anyone explain why license plate that reads BAD2THBN is considered cool? (english is not my native language). What does it stand for?
[21:04] <s4my> acerspyro: is it on freenode ?
[21:04] <acerspyro> Just ask in there and wait for maybe an hour or two
[21:04] <acerspyro> s4my: ?
[21:04] <cinvoke> anyone know why ssh would ignore my local profile's config file?
[21:04] <Will2Kill> No , it's on a netbook.
[21:04] <s4my> acerspyro: what server?
[21:04] <Will2Kill> the whole topic is on a netbook.
[21:04] <acerspyro> s4my: For what?
[21:04] <Will2Kill> Internal SSD now
[21:04] <OerHeks> ALI_, if you can read this, maybe this german page is any help >> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/TechniSat_SkyStar_2_eXpress_HD
[21:05] <acerspyro> It's all on Freenode
[21:05] <s4my> acerspyro: for #gnome
[21:05] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | ghinzu
[21:05] <stormzen> acerspyro, Did you figure out what your issue was with wireless?
[21:05] <ALI_>  <OerHeks> thanks i'll try and feedback to you
[21:06] <acerspyro> stormzen: It's not wireless
[21:06] <acerspyro> It's everything ntwork
[21:06] <acerspyro> I use wired, and it stops working when my computer goes to sleep
[21:06] <acerspyro> Classic. :(
[21:06] <stormzen> Oh, you're using wired?  I didn't make that connection.
[21:07] <acerspyro> > wired >didn't make that connection
[21:07] <acerspyro> I see what you did there
[21:07] <Giwrgaras> anyone using sublime text? do you know how to auto collapse and expand items?
[21:07] <stormzen> :)  not on purpose
[21:07] <acerspyro> lol
[21:07] <acerspyro> stormzen: So yeah, basically, when I try to reconnect from the applet, dmesg spits out some stuff.
[21:08] <stormzen> acerspyro, I'm confused with the role of network manager now.  I was told that as long as it's running, sudo service networking stop would fail.
[21:08] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Im at the point where I will try what ever you think is best. I have image of my Windows 8.1
[21:08] <stormzen> That let me to look into /etc/network/interfaces, only to find that only lo was defined...
[21:08] <acerspyro> stormzen: I tried sudo service network-manager restart
[21:09] <stormzen> ... So now I'm confused what commands work without the interfaces being defined in the interfaces file.
[21:09] <acerspyro> >auto lo >iface lo inet loopback
[21:09] <acerspyro> What is this?
[21:09] <acerspyro> (from /etc/network/interfaces
[21:09] <stormzen> It's the loopback interface.
[21:10] <stormzen> Don't mess with that file.  If you make a change that it doesn't understand, it won't boot anymore.
[21:10] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: The most straighforward solution would be to re-install Windows, and make sure that when you do so it's configured for UEFI booting. Then fixing Ubuntu is relatively easy, you just have to edit /etc/fstab and re-run grub-install.
[21:10] <stormzen> It used to be where all the network interfaces were defined, such as lan0 and wlan3.
[21:11] <fstarr> I'm having this bizarre problem with my portable hard drives, and there's a lot of results on Google for the error, but there are no solutions that seem to work for me. I'm trying to transfer files onto a newly formatted external drive, but whenever I'm dragging files on, it just gives me an error saying the destination is read-only.
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: You could of course re-install Ubuntu also, if the Windows install wipes the entire drive. Of course you should have good backups of all of your important data.
[21:11] <Jordan_U> fstarr: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[21:11] <loa> fstarr, it will sound strange, but try restart system.
[21:11] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: I tried reinstall ubuntu 3x(without a prob it seemed) but never got a grub menu
[21:12] <loa> i have recently exectly same thing, and only restart helped me.
[21:12] <acerspyro> (How many systems have I trashed because of bugs?)
[21:12] <acerspyro> *bug bug bug bug bug bug* Ok, screw it, next!
[21:13] <bubbasaures> fstarr, What is the file type on the portable?
[21:14] <fstarr> bubbasaures: i formatted it with GPT partitioning, and as an NTFS drive
[21:14] <JohnTheBeloved> Giwrgaras: Which version of sublime?
[21:15] <fstarr> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567229/
[21:15] <Giwrgaras> 3
[21:15] <bubbasaures> fstarr, Ah,do the dmesg and pastebin it, ntfs need chkdsk's run on occasion as well.
[21:15] <alephant> Hi all... what's the most reliable way to determine if package "foo" is installed? I've ``apt-get purge''ed it, but ``dpkg -l foo'' still reports it as "Unknown" (and returns 0). How do I either fully-remove it so that dpkg returns 1, or better test for whether it's installed?
[21:15] <fstarr> bubbasaures: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567229/
[21:15] <barnex> hello, my computer seems slow to me and I can't pin it down, could someone help me to pin down the cause?
[21:15] <Giwrgaras> JohnTheBeloved,  3
[21:15] <EriC^^> alephant: apt-cache policy <package>
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: That's likely because of the very odd state of Windows at the moment, if you want I can explain what I think is happening. I expect that once Windows is installed properly Ubuntu will install correctly as well.
[21:16] <bubbasaures> Jordan_U, better read by you than me.. <fstarr> bubbasaures: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567229/
[21:17] <s4my> anybody here now shit about unity
[21:17] <alephant> EriC^^: awesome, thanks! Works like a charm!
[21:17] <s4my> am looking to make a costum icon pack
[21:17] <barnex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567237/ here's iotop, free and uptime
[21:17] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: ok, thank you for your help. I just thought there was maybe a tool I could run in Linux to get it working.
[21:17] <barnex> seems fine to me
[21:17] <Will2Kill> since both partitions are there and they both boot
[21:17] <Jordan_U> fstarr: Is the drive in question currently mounted? If so, please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts.
[21:18] <fstarr> Jordan_U: permission denied
[21:18] <acerspyro> s4my: Looked online?
[21:18] <fstarr> Jordan_U: my bad. got it. one mo
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: There is, but again I think it would break Windows boot. We can try it if you'd like, since the worst that can happen is you'll need to re-install Windows.
[21:18] <loa> hello, how i can move audit logs of apparmor from syslog?
[21:19] <fstarr> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567251/
[21:19] <s4my> acerspyro, yeah i even posted a stackoverflow question no one seems to wanna help
[21:19] <acerspyro> :/
[21:19] <acerspyro> ubuntu forums?
[21:20] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Ok, I even have Boot Repair installed on (HD)Ubuntu
[21:23] <s4my> hello mother fucker
[21:23] <s4my> :!
[21:24] <Ctwx> Hello. Is there any way to change the installation target of grub afterwards? I installed it to /dev/sda but I need it to be installed on /dev/sda3.
[21:24] <barnex> just run grub-install or whatever is it called now
[21:24] <barnex> yeah, grub-install
[21:25] <barnex> you give the device as the argument I believe
[21:25] <barnex> Ctwx: or do you mean you want to change the path from which grub loads the OS?
[21:26] <fstarr> Jordan_U: did you see the /proc/mounts log?
[21:26] <Ctwx> barnex: No, the installation path. I have a Debian/Ubuntu dual boot system, but Ubuntu overwrites my Debian grub... :/
[21:27] <barnex> Uhm, not an expert, but you should be able to use one grub to load both systems. Have you tried that/don't want that for some reason?
[21:27] <fstarr> Jordan_U: just realised i posted an incorrect one. here's the correct one.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567289/
[21:28] <aethersis> hi acerspyro
[21:28] <acerspyro> aethersis: oh hi
[21:28] <aethersis> you wont believe from what device im typing lol
[21:28] <acerspyro> aethersis: Nintendo DS
[21:29] <acerspyro> Wii?
[21:29] <aethersis> no
[21:29] <acerspyro> oh
[21:29] <acerspyro> Uh
[21:29] <aethersis> eink tablet hahah
[21:29] <acerspyro> phone
[21:29] <acerspyro> androIRC
[21:29] <acerspyro> lol
[21:29] <fstarr> does anybody have any solutions to the 'destination is read-only' error? I'm trying to copy files to a freshly formatted external drive
[21:29] <k1l> !ot | acerspyro aethersis
[21:29] <NGC3982> You guys need to change your nick names.
[21:29] <ALI_> hello , when i try to install driver from hrere http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/TechniSat_SkyStar_2_eXpress_HD , i got error in last step ,,, when i run lsdvb , ERROR: Opening /sys/class/dvb directory
[21:29] <aethersis> it is ereader with eink display and android its crazy
[21:30] <acerspyro> oh shut it up, don't scrap another one's day.
[21:31] <aethersis> I broke my galaxy tab 3 but thisthing is perfect, what better can u get than ereader with 10 inch screen and android :D
[21:32] <aethersis> well, 10 inch eink and ubuntu :D and there is actually one with linux too
[21:32] <acerspyro> #rekt
[21:32] <aethersis> I need another irc client this one has toosmall fonts
[21:33] <k1l> aethersis: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. its unfair to the users waiting for help. got to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[21:34] <android42863> Hi all
[21:34] <android42863> am I visible in #Ubuntu chat?
[21:35] <android42863> Trying out this new app
[21:35] <k1l> android42863: yes
[21:35] <android42863> K, thank you
[21:35] <k1l> android42863: for test please use #test
[21:35] <android42863> There's probably no one in there;)
[21:36] <vitimiti> Hi
[21:36] <android42863> Hi there;)
[21:37] <android42863> What was the cmd to stop showing channel info?
[21:37] <android42863> As in who quit etc.
[21:37] <guest560> test
[21:37] <android42863> Can't find the option in this GUI I'm using
[21:38] <k1l> android42863: ask the android support in #android
[21:38] <barnex> again, I'm having troubles with performance, can't quite pin down the issue (seems like load is OK, there are 2 GBs of free ram and nothing is hogging IO)
[21:38] <barnex> Any ideas?
[21:38] <barnex> Because all I can get from google is 'reinstall your OS, or install debian' :P
[21:38] <android42863> Barnex what's your swapping?
[21:39] <android42863> Swappiness?
[21:39] <kaddi> hi guys, since the last few days my wifi has gotten very slow and unreliable. Regularly no data is transfered even though it claims to be connected.  I'm using 14.04 and this seems to be happening since the last update I did (but I wasn't paying close attention to what was being updated unfortunately)
[21:39] <kaddi> it only happens in kubuntu, when I use windows (dualboot) on the same machine things are fine and noone else on my wifi seems affected
[21:39] <OerHeks> barnex really?
[21:39] <barnex> android42863: 1.2 GB at the moment
[21:39] <k1l> barnex: what does that mean? what pc hardware is it?
[21:39] <android42863> Barnex are you on Ubuntu right now?
[21:39] <barnex> i5, 8GB ramu.
[21:39] <aethersis> test
[21:39] <barnex> android42863: yes
[21:39] <android42863> Check your swappiness
[21:39] <barnex> k1l: i5, 8GB ram, raid 5, luks
[21:40] <android42863> Wait, no.
[21:40] <k1l> barnex: what does "problem with performance" mean?
[21:40] <android42863> Swappiness shouldn't be a problem
[21:40] <android42863> Barnex describe the problem further
[21:40] <barnex> firefox switching tabs super long, zsh taking seconds to load, other command line programs sometimes taking seconds
[21:40] <barnex> games seem to run fine
[21:40] <barnex> so I suspect IO maybe?
[21:41] <android42863> open system monitor, check ram,  check cpu
[21:41] <OerHeks> raid with luks, i suspect impatience.
[21:41] <android42863> Barnex ^
[21:41] <android42863> And let us know if all looks fine
[21:41] <android42863> As in low usage
[21:41] <barnex> OerHeks: ram is steady 50%, cpu mostly 10%, nothing more than 20%
[21:42] <barnex> looks fine to me
[21:42] <Ben64> barnex: try iotop
[21:42] <android42863> Barnex ram on Ubuntu is 4gb? How come?
[21:42] <boz> anyone have experience with ubuntu server email?
[21:42] <android42863> That's quite a lot
[21:42] <tarek> hi
[21:42] <barnex> android42863: 4GB? I have 8GB actually
[21:42] <android42863> Barnex, is your problem happening on Ubuntu only?
[21:42] <barnex> ah
[21:42] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Ran Boot repair in Ubuntu - and rebooting now cross fingers. check pastebin 8567349
[21:42] <barnex> how is 4GB used
[21:42] <Will2Kill> thanks
[21:43] <barnex> android42863: can't tell, haven't had any other OS in a while
[21:43] <andras> Fresh install of Ubuntu. 40 GB system partition (SSD), 20 GB swap (SSD), 250 GB home partition (HDD). Entire OS is running slowly. Any ideas?
[21:43] <barnex> certainly not on this PC
[21:43] <android42863> Barnex, maybe your HDD is the problem?
[21:43] <OerHeks> Will2Kill, http://pastebin.com/8567349 is removed
[21:44] <barnex> android42863: vm running, probably using 1 or 2 Gigs of ram
[21:44] <android42863> Barnex k
[21:44] <Ben64> andras: why did you put swap on ssd!?
[21:44] <android42863> Andras ram?
[21:44] <barnex> android42863: hm, are you think about smart diagnostic, or is there some simple benchmark I could try?
[21:45] <android42863> Barnex I don't know, sorry
[21:45] <boz> does ubuntu server email play with nice with the android email app?
[21:45] <android42863> Barnex run love usb
[21:45] <android42863> Lol
[21:45] <android42863> Live usb
[21:46] <android42863> Sorry, Android auto correct
[21:46] <barnex> <3 usb :D
[21:46] <Finetundra> how do i change to resolution for grub?
[21:46] <Finetundra> *the
[21:47] <android42863> Andras how much ram do you have?
[21:47] <OerHeks> !info grub-customizer
[21:48] <Finetundra> OerHeks, i'm running without a gui other than terminal.
[21:48] <OerHeks> Finetundra, maybe this page is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays#Changing_Menu_Resolutions
[21:49] <barnex> hmm, and if we suppose that it isn't a hardware problem do you guys have any ideas? I'll run from live eventually and try to recreate the slowness, but I'm afraid it'll take a lot of time
[21:49] <OerHeks> else there is grub-customizer in a PPA >> https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer
[21:49] <barnex> because it's hard to prove that something (slowness) doesn't occur
[21:49] <barnex> ofc if it was obviously slow from the start it would be obvious
[21:50] <barnex> and if it's fast it still proves nothing, because live doesn't use IO which is probably the one at fault.
[21:50] <Finetundra> OerHeks, the article isn't of much use as i can't see grub because it's a a weird resolution
[21:50] <barnex> I mean disk IO
[21:51] <barnex> So there might still be a hardware problem
[21:52] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, how did the repartition go?
[21:53] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, GNOME crashed in the middle of it. which is not good. although the only effect was that the partition i was adjusting just can't access 398gb
[21:54] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, please imgur a screen shot of gparted when you get a chance
[21:55] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, i'll have it in a sec
[21:56] <ObrienDave> thanks
[21:56] <andras> android42863 I have 8 GB of ram
[21:56] <Archer70> Anyone else have their compositor break after updating today?
[21:57] <donbirdy> greetings my fellow ubuntonians
[21:57] <kaddi> i have horrible wifi latencies
[21:57] <donbirdy> I am sorry to hear that kaddi
[21:59] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, here ya go : http://imgur.com/nxXesbp   i've gotta go for a sec
[21:59] <ObrienDave> np
[22:13] <motaka2> hello where to find sudoers in ubuntu12.04
[22:13] <sivik> visudo file
[22:13] <sivik> Run the command visudo as root
[22:13] <sivik> motaka2, its actually in /etc/sudoers but visudo is the shortcut way to get there
[22:14] <motaka2> sivik: so I first have to su and then visudo ?
[22:14] <sivik> Yes
[22:14] <EriC^^> not a shortcut, it's the editor, you shouldn't edit it manually
[22:14] <EriC^^> motaka2: type sudo visudo
[22:14] <Jordan_U> motaka2: Why are you asking? Most of the time you do *not* want to be editing the sudoers file.
[22:15] <sivik> There is really nothing wrong with modifying the sudoers if you know what you are doing
[22:15] <motaka2> Jordan_U: just learning
[22:15] <motaka2> I dont want to edit just wanting to look up
[22:15] <EriC^^> sivik: not true
[22:15] <motaka2> so when I sudo with my own password I have all previliages of root ?
[22:16] <sivik> EriC^^, whats the other option on modifying sudoers without editing the file?  I do it on servers all the time
[22:16] <EriC^^> sivik: sometimes without a syntax error you still get an error using visudo
[22:16] <ObrienDave> motaka2, yes, that's what sudo is for
[22:16] <EriC^^> sivik: what do you mean?
[22:16] <stormzen> i need help coming up with a work around for wireless networks.
[22:16] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: sivik: Of course there is nothing wrong with changing the sudoers file if you know what you're doing, but if you don't know where the file is then you are not in that catagory of people :)
[22:16] <zykotick9> !root | motaka2
[22:17] <Timoty>  Hello all, In C, is "printf" a reentrant function?
[22:17] <sivik> Jordan_U, true.  But if one is trying to learn, the best way to learn is to break it (in my opinion) especially if its a test or virtual machine
[22:17] <EriC^^> sivik: visudo is for editing the sudoers file, sometimes an extra tab or space or whatever causes a fault in it
[22:17] <EriC^^> visudo checks everything before saving
[22:17] <Jordan_U> Timoty: Try asking in ##C.
[22:17] <motaka2> I dont know why western people make things to orbit around before move to the goal
[22:17] <sivik> motaka2, we are just giving you different options
[22:17] <motaka2> sivik: EriC^^ zykotick9 thank you all
[22:18] <sivik> You can either run visudo as root or sudo visudo or edit the /etc/sudoers file
[22:18] <sivik> but editing the sudoers file is something only you should do if you really know what you are doing
[22:18]  * zykotick9 thinks, "if you know what you're doing" you wouldn't be editing sudoers by hand... 
[22:18] <EriC^^> motaka2: if you just want to look up, then sudo -l , will tell you what privileges you have
[22:19] <motaka2> sivik: when did my normal user was added to sudoers, I dont remmeber i did this and in sudoers.tmp I dont see my username
[22:19] <sivik> motaka2, check via visudo
[22:19] <EriC^^> ( if you're not curious about the file itself that is )
[22:19] <zykotick9> motaka2: the 1st user created on ubuntu systems is automatically added to sudo group
[22:19] <sivik> http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/man/1.7.10/visudo.man.html
[22:19] <sivik> But not any new users
[22:19] <loa> how i can restart rsyslogd after chaning it configuration?
[22:20] <motaka2> sivik: so why my user name is not in sudoers list ?
[22:20] <sivik> Was it the first user added to the machine motaka2
[22:20] <sivik> loa restart the service
[22:20] <zykotick9> motaka2: but the "sudo" group is sudoers and your user is in that group
[22:21] <sivik> Its either service rsyslog(d) restart or /etc/init.d/rsyslog(d) restart
[22:21] <motaka2> sivik: Yes, and also when I sudo i can what I want. so where is my username listed?
[22:21] <loa> sivik, it is not working.
[22:21] <sivik> What isn't working about it load
[22:21] <sivik> motaka2, check your group file in /etc
[22:21] <loa> but sudo killall rsyslogd work
[22:21] <sivik> You are probably in the sudo group
[22:21] <Jordan_U> motaka2: It's not, the "admin" or "sudo" group, one of which you are a member of, is though.
[22:21] <zykotick9> s/probably//
[22:22] <loa> i will not ask if i will not try all options.
[22:22] <EriC^^> motaka2: getent group sudo , it's the list of users in the sudo group, in the /etc/sudoers file they have access to privileged commands
[22:22] <loa> only killall rsyslogd helped
[22:22] <sivik> So what is the issue loa?
[22:22] <NCS_One> hi
[22:22] <sivik> hi NCS_One
[22:22] <loa> as i said "how i can restart resyslogd?"
[22:23] <sivik> do you get an error if you try service rsyslog restart or /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart?
[22:23] <stormzen> Can anyone tell me why NetworkManager freaks out ( and never recovers ) when I issue this command?  sudo sh -c 'modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1'
[22:23] <Jordan_U> loa: sudo service rsyslog restart
[22:23] <NCS_One> is it possible, with xbindkeys, to map a mouse key to a keyboard key?
[22:24] <motaka2> EriC^^: thx
[22:24] <reisio> NCS_One: among other ways, yup
[22:24] <loa> sivik, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A23%3A57.png
[22:24] <EriC^^> motaka2: np
[22:24] <loa> Jordan_U, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A24%3A28.png
[22:24] <sivik> did you run the restart as root and not just your user?
[22:24] <NCS_One> reisio: can you give an example of both?
[22:24] <sivik> aka via su - or sudo <command>
[22:25] <reisio> NCS_One: you using Unity/GNOME? It has its own keyboard shortcut system, IIRC
[22:25] <sivik> oh wait, you are in as root
[22:25] <zykotick9> sivik: don't suggest "su -" in ubuntu...
[22:25] <motaka2> does anyone knows a good manual about user nad group management as well as file permissions and ownership in linux speciall in ubuntu ?
[22:25] <Jordan_U> loa: I didn't say /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart, I said "sudo service rsyslog restart". Have you tried that?
[22:25] <sivik> zykotick9, why not?
[22:25] <NCS_One> reisio: xfce
[22:25] <sivik> Jordan_U, looks like hes already logged in as root
[22:25] <zykotick9> !noroot | sivik
[22:26] <loa> Jordan_U, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A25%3A56.png
[22:26] <sivik> I said nothing about setting the root password.
[22:26] <zykotick9> sivik: "su -" would require it...
[22:26] <sivik> oh yea, it does in ubuntu.
[22:26] <Jordan_U> loa: You shouldn't use the scripts in /etc/init.d/ directly, because then things may not be properly managed by upstart.
[22:26] <sivik> Been a while since I used ubuntu
[22:27] <Jordan_U> loa: Please run exactly the command I gave, nothing else.
[22:27] <loa> Jordan_U, i just want get how i can restart rsyslogd after changing his configuration
[22:27] <loa> Jordan_U, i did it https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A25%3A56.png
[22:28] <loa> maybe i am sleepy and have problems.
[22:28] <loa> i will copy paste now.
[22:28] <cristian_c> Hi
[22:28] <loa> ok, i have problems, thx.
[22:28] <Jordan_U> loa: You're welcome.
[22:29] <cristian_c> I can't mound my micro-sd card in the internal card reader via sd adapter
[22:29] <cristian_c> I get:
[22:29] <cristian_c> mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[22:29] <cristian_c> sdhci-pci 0000:01:04.1: Will use DMA mode even though HW doesn't fully claim to support it.
[22:29] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[22:29] <xxrepresentxx> Hey
[22:30] <ObrienDave> cristian_c, bad card or bad adapter
[22:31] <cristian_c> ObrienDave, I can use the card reader with other cards
[22:31] <cristian_c> ObrienDave, and I can use this card with other card readers
[22:34] <reisio> stormzen: probably 'cause it was using that module
[22:34] <reisio> whoops, stuck in buffer
[22:34] <xxrepresentxx> I have a question. When i install Ubuntu on my laptop there is no sound. but in windows i have some. Why are these problems.(Sry for my bad english, Im from germany)
[22:36] <zykotick9> !de | xxrepresentxx just fyi, if you'd like german.
[22:37] <loa> how i need read logs under ubuntu? that file /var/log/syslog for example?
[22:38] <loa> there must be some tool like dmesg but for that file?
[22:38] <loa> know i use tail /var/log/syslog
[22:38] <loa> there no any other method?
[22:38] <zykotick9> loa: logs are just text files, you can use any program you wish to view them (so long as you have proper permission)
[22:39] <loa> zykotick9, in understand that, but there must be some kind of special tool
[22:39]  * zykotick9 likes cat/less/vi but YMMV
[22:39] <zykotick9> loa: nope...
[22:39] <loa> ok
[22:42] <loa> is there any way to protect my files from different files? for example i don't like skype, i don't want even possibility that he can change or read something under my home folder
[22:42] <loa> different programs *
[22:42] <loa> i tried apparmor already but found that it is very complicated thing.
[22:43] <cristian_c> ObrienDave, any other ideas?
[22:44] <ObrienDave> nope
[22:44] <dragon_> boa noite
[22:45] <dragon_> alguem sabe como posso instalar os efeitos de desktop no zorin os 9 lite
[22:46] <stormzen> Can anyone tell me why NetworkManager freaks out ( and never recovers ) when I issue this command?  sudo sh -c 'modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1'
[22:46] <reisio> stormzen: probably 'cause it was using that module
[22:47] <stormzen> So, how do I make it recover when I do that?  I'm doing it because something has gone horribly wrong with the wireless connection at a remote location.
[22:47] <loa> stormzen, i if you trying to do some kind of powersave there are more polite methods.
[22:47] <zykotick9> !Portuguese | dragon_
[22:48] <stormzen> loa, powersave?  No.  Trying to fix a wireless issue that I only see when I'm away from my home network.
[22:48] <stormzen> .. but I'm guessing that the issue.  .. trying to find a work-around.
[22:50] <loa> stormzen, check out iwconfig
[22:50] <loa> stormzen, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A50%3A04.png
[22:51]  * vitimiti Bye
[22:52] <stormzen> loa, so you're saying that I can use iwconfig to configure the wireless network interface not to use the 'N' ?
[22:52] <loa> i think so.
[22:52] <stormzen> ok, that gives me something to try.  Thanks!
[22:55] <zykotick9> stormzen: something else to "try".  stop N-M, run your modprobe stuff, start N-M.
[22:55] <acerspyro> Why is Compiz using 10% of my memory?
[22:56] <walooo> hello
[22:56] <chulmin> hallo
[22:56] <zykotick9> acerspyro: and how much cpu?  ;)  compiz isn't "light" by any means.  good luck.
[22:56] <stormzen> zykotick9, That approach didn't work.
[22:56] <acerspyro> 0 right now lol
[22:56] <acerspyro> zykotick9: Still, it could be optimized.
[22:56] <zykotick9> stormzen: ahhh, sorry.  good luck then.
[22:57] <stormzen> zykotick9, ( at least not after I had already put it into the state where it was searching for the network )
[22:57] <stormzen> loa, it says:  SET failed on device wlan3 ; Operation not supported
[22:58] <zykotick9> acerspyro: i "believe" even ubuntu is finally moving unity onto something other then compiz... soon.
[22:58] <loa> stormzen, but that option to module helps?
[22:58] <acerspyro> Nice
[22:58] <acerspyro> Altho...
[22:58] <stormzen> loa, I think it would, if it worked...
[22:58] <acerspyro> I don't understand. Why don't the Compiz devs fix it?
[22:59] <loa> stormzen, you can try to use modprobe.d
[22:59] <loa> if you need that option on permanent basis
[22:59] <stormzen> loa, I think that's what I'm looking to set manually, given that the 'n' is what I'm trying to avoid, and it looks like 802.11n is some sort of protocol meant to switch from a to g ... ( I think )
[22:59] <walooo> hello there
[22:59] <Daryl> at Ubuntu Mainline can Kernel 3.17.1 run in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[22:59] <stormzen> loa, I was trying to determine if the 'n' was even causing the problem.  I'm not sure that it is.
[23:00] <stormzen> but maybe I should just make a permanent change and see if I can go the places I haven't been able to go.
[23:00] <loa> stormzen, try to use /etc/modprobe.d/ folder
[23:03] <sage__> Is the 14.10 release candidate ready for download yet?
[23:03] <reisio> I'm sure you can figure that out on your own
[23:03] <stormzen> loa, am I looking at iwlwifi.conf ?
[23:03] <Yrie> still beta!
[23:03] <zykotick9> sage__: ask in #ubuntu+1 channel
[23:05] <loa> stormzen, if there is such file yes, if no just feel free to create your one.
[23:06] <kaddi> hi my wifi keeps dropping to 0B/s transmitted every since I did the last update 3-4 days ago.. is there a fix for that? (14.04, 64bits using iwlwifi driver).
[23:06] <NCS_One> hi
[23:06] <stormzen> loa, there is one, but all I see in it look like commands to unload iwlwifi.  I think I have the instructions somewhere to make it permanent.
[23:06] <loa> stormzen, what instructions?
[23:07] <stormzen> A website where I got the instructions to try to manually modprobe -r iwlwifi
[23:07] <NCS_One> soo I was able to map a mouse key to a keyboard key using xbindkeys, the problem now is that on the game the same key is recognized ahs a diferent key, what can I do to fix it?
[23:07] <loa> stormzen, what in file i mean.
[23:08] <loa> NCS_One, what game?
[23:08] <stormzen> /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf .. .says to add options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 to the end.
[23:08] <NCS_One> loa: Day of Defeat on Steam
[23:08] <loa> NCS_One, game very often have their own mechanic of handling keys and ugly hacks for this.
[23:08] <loa> games *
[23:09] <loa> stormzen, so add it?
[23:09] <stormzen> hah, yes, I'm adding it as fast as I can.  :p
[23:10] <kaddi> loa are you having wifi issues?
[23:10] <stormzen> Ok, will sudo service restart network-manager  cause iwlwifi to reload?
[23:10] <loa> stormzen, i don't think so.
[23:10] <NCS_One> loa: soo no way to fix it?
[23:11] <loa> NCS_One, i don't think so... maybe ingame configuration methids.
[23:11] <loa> NCS_One, it have configuration files or something?
[23:11] <andras> Yeah, my machine is definitely running slowly. It takes a good 3 seconds to save a libre office document 2 pages long. What could be the issue? 8 GB ram, 20 GB of swap
[23:11] <NCS_One> loa: yes
[23:12] <loa> NCS_One, why you use then xbindkeys?
[23:12] <NCS_One> loa: the problem is that in game if I try to map the key to a action when I click the key it says it is MOUSE1
[23:12] <loa> kaddi, i have iwlwifi only my notebook. i can check it if you want.
[23:13] <jonne_> I'm having trouble booting my ssd after moving it to a new computer, anyone know what could be wrong? This is the output of boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567666/
[23:13] <loa> NCS_One, you have gaming mouse with many buttons?
[23:13] <zykotick9> andras: 20GB of swap is A LOT!
[23:13] <NCS_One> loa: yes, MX518
[23:13] <ObrienDave> andras, probably too much swap
[23:13] <andras> Too much swap?
[23:13] <kaddi> i thought you might be having the same issue as me since you were mentioning hte drivier.. but maybe not :p
[23:13] <jonne_> the ssd used to be in a mac, and i needed to use rEFInd to boot it
[23:13] <loa> NCS_One, you have this problems in other games?
[23:14] <stormzen> ok, trying to reboot now.
[23:14] <andras> You can have too much of a good thing?
[23:14] <NCS_One> loa: really haven't tryed any other game on linux
[23:14] <loa> NCS_One, it is good point to start it lol.
[23:14] <ObrienDave> andras, 20GB swap with 8GB RAM is overkill
[23:14] <loa> dota 2, team fortress are free.
[23:14] <zykotick9> andras: i don't think the 20GB would be slowing things down at all, but it's a lot of disk space for something i doubt gets used very much...
[23:15] <andras> ObrienDave do you think having too much space for swap reduces performance?
[23:15] <NCS_One> loa: thanks, I'll try it tomorrow
[23:15] <ObrienDave> andras, no, just yanking your chain on that ;P
[23:15] <loa> NCS_One, if it is source based game i pritty sure you can setup it configs.
[23:16] <andras> ObrienDave could it be because my /home partition is on a different drive?
[23:16] <JagSirius> I installed Ubuntu on Hyper-V last night, and it's using up to 4.6 GB of RAM. Most of that (all but ~200 MB) is being used in cache - should that be happening?
[23:16] <ObrienDave> andras, but you're wasting at least 10GB with swap that large
[23:16] <loa> JagSirius, yes it is normal.
[23:16] <NCS_One> loa: ok and thanks again
[23:17] <BlackGlasses> ? Hyper-V
[23:17] <andras> ObrienDave it's not really needed elsewhere. Besides I might upgrade to 16 GB ram soon and you're supposed to have more swap than ram
[23:18] <ObrienDave> andras, this is true
[23:18] <BlackGlasses> JagSirius, whatis Hyper-V?
[23:18] <andras> ObrienDave I've never experienced such slowness in Ubuntu on this machine before. It isn't the first time I've installed Ubuntu on this machine or with this hardware
[23:18] <stormzen> Sorry to ask a dumb question, but now that I've disabed 802.11n, how can I tell if it's using a,b, or g?
[23:19] <stormzen> *which it's using, out of a,b,g
[23:19] <ObrienDave> BlackGlasses, microsoft Virtualizer
[23:19] <JagSirius> Hyper-V is Microsoft's virtualization software.
[23:19] <BlackGlasses> ObrienDave, thxs!
[23:19] <loa> stormzen, i think you can find this information in router admin panel
[23:19] <JagSirius> Sorry, I'm not sure how to tag people...
[23:20] <andras> ObrienDave The only thing I did differently this time around is install /home to HDD instead of SSD
[23:20] <ObrienDave> JagSirius, use TAB to auto complete nicks
[23:20] <stormzen> No, what the client is using.  I won't have access to the router admin panel at a remote hotspot.
[23:20] <ObrienDave> andras, that's probably it
[23:21] <OerHeks> JagSirius, run this in terminal: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  # and you will notice why hyperV is not optimal
[23:21] <ObrienDave> andras, SSDs will spoil you on performance ;P
[23:21] <squinty> JagSirius:  or if using hexchat, double click the person's nick and then paste it
[23:21] <loa> stormzen, run iwconfig
[23:21] <andras> ObrienDave where does application data stored in Ubuntu? system partition? or home?
[23:22] <stormzen> loa, are you looking at this?  IEEE 802.11abg .. .or something else?
[23:22] <JagSirius> ObrienDave: Like this?
[23:22] <rathitlike> Hey dude
[23:22] <loa> stormzen, yes.
[23:23] <ObrienDave> rathitlike, your problem with me is?
[23:23] <stormzen> loa, I wiki'd IEE 802.11, but there were many listings for 'a' ...
[23:23] <OerHeks> !pm | rathitlike
[23:23] <stormzen> 'abg' tells me that it's no longer trying to use 'n', but not what it is using.  I guess I could figure that out by looking at the frequency?
[23:24] <rathitlike> I do
[23:24] <stormzen> Sorry, I'm in a hurry, I'm not seeing as much as I should be seeing.
[23:24] <ObrienDave> rathitlike, why are you PMing me with your garbage?
[23:25] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, try looking at the system log
[23:25] <squinty> rathitlike:  and me... not cool!!!
[23:25] <OerHeks> !ops | rathitlike
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] (~rathitlik@2601:b:b480:840:f176:48f2:ad91:6460): rathitlike
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] #ubuntu
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] wilhelm.freenode.net :NL
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] idle 00:01:23, signon: Wed Oct 15 16:17:15
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] End of WHOIS list.
[23:26] <stormzen> iwlist modu gives: wlan3     unknown modulation information.
[23:26] <stormzen> BlackGlasses, so, grep wlan3 /var/log/syslog ?
[23:27] <rathitlike> I can't get xrandr to turn off overscan with out screen corruption
[23:28] <loa> stormzen, my opinion that modulation can change dynamicly or so.
[23:28] <OerHeks> stormzen, maybe your router can confirm the protocol
[23:28] <stormzen> loa, hmm.  Ok.
[23:28] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, if you have it...
[23:29] <stormzen> BlackGlasses, Didn't see anything about modulation in syslog.  I thought I might be grepping for the wrong string, or in the wrong log.
[23:29] <loa> stormzen, but my knowledge are very low in this topic.
[23:29] <stormzen> OerHeks, I plan to do this at a hotspot to figure out why my wireless has been breaking there.  Won't have access to the router.
[23:29] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, iwconfig wont tell you modulation?
[23:29] <loa> stormzen, so it is gust possibilities of my ap https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-03%3A29%3A31.png
[23:29] <loa> just *
[23:30] <stormzen> BlackGlasses, iwconfig appears to tell me what is 'allowed'?  IEEE 802.11abg
[23:31] <neldogz> Are there any special libraries users should install when trying to game using Ubuntu 14.04.1 64-bit? For example, I am using Steam should I be installing any 32 bit libraries for the various games I play and if so which libraries?
[23:32] <JagSirius> OerHeks: re Hyper-V, is it because it uses software rendering?
[23:33] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, have you tried man iwconfig | grep modulation ?
[23:33] <peppecruz> qual è il channel italiano?
[23:33] <loa> stormzen, maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1441823
[23:33] <ObrienDave> !it | peppecruz
[23:34] <kaddi> switching back to 3.13.0-36-generic seems to fix the issue
[23:34] <Quatroking> hi
[23:34] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, I'm just trying to be helpfull but I'm not a good source for wifi solutions...
[23:34] <Quatroking> I just tried out making two aliases in a .bash_aliases file, but none of them work
[23:34] <OerHeks> JagSirius, i experienced: Not software rendered: no Unity 3D supported: no
[23:35] <peppecruz> ObrienDave: thanks
[23:35] <Quatroking> do I have to do anything special before my terminal recognizes them?
[23:35] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, pastebin your file here
[23:35] <kaddi> seriously.. ubuntu and wifi. it's just not meant to be, eh? :p
[23:35] <rathitlike> kaddi: says u
[23:36] <Yrie> kaddi: it's more of wifi manufacturer and anything open source
[23:36] <Quatroking> ObrienDave, http://pastebin.com/gubkYzDU
[23:36] <BlackGlasses> kaddi, my wifi works fine (sometimes it disconnects with no reason, but 99.9% of time is ok)
[23:36] <kaddi> Yrie: ya i know.. just annoyed.. it's been all of 3 months since I last had to circumvent a wifi bug
[23:36] <Quatroking> when i type agi or dropbox-chan in the terminal, it says that it doesn't recognize it
[23:36] <Quatroking> command not found error
[23:36] <Yrie> kaddi: you need to help them figure out how to provide stuff for free and earn a huge amount of profit at the same time
[23:37] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, relog
[23:37] <stormzen> BlackGlasses, as I suspected, it doesn't support manual modulation changes.
[23:37] <Quatroking> alright, hold on
[23:38] <stormzen> loa, thanks for that link.
[23:38] <Quatroking> oh hey, now it works, ObrienDave
[23:38] <kaddi> Yrie: i prolly just need to get away from intel :p
[23:38] <Quatroking> thanks
[23:38] <stormzen> Ok.  That's all the time I have.  Thanks again.
[23:38] <Quatroking> the tutorial I followed didn't mention that
[23:38] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, welcome
[23:39] <Quatroking> by the way, I aliased cd .. to cd.. earlier today using the terminal itself, where does it save that?
[23:39] <pbx> Quatroking, it doesn't. it lasts for the duration of that shell session
[23:39] <Quatroking> oh
[23:39] <pzkpfw> ^
[23:39] <Quatroking> ha, you're right
[23:39] <pzkpfw> close the window and start over. I do that more often than I should.
[23:39] <Quatroking> guess I'll add that to the list then
[23:39] <ObrienDave> .bash_history
[23:39] <pbx> Quatroking, if you want it to persist, you need to put it in a dotfile e.g. .bash_profile
[23:40] <pzkpfw> lol
[23:40] <Quatroking> pbx, yeah I made a .bash_aliases file
[23:40] <pzkpfw> time paradox
[23:40] <NoXzema> If you were to try and open an old .deb package for a library that's currently in the repository, what would happen?
[23:41] <Quatroking> oh look at that, just restarting the terminal also refreshes the aliases
[23:42] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, forgot that works also ;P
[23:42] <Quatroking> got a question about two ntfs partitions I got
[23:43] <jose__> haosifkhaosdf
[23:43] <jose__> HOLA
[23:43] <Quatroking> "The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[23:43] <Quatroking> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[23:43] <Quatroking> read-only with the 'ro' mount option." - pretty sure I shut down entirely the last couple times. Should I run chkdsk?
[23:43] <Quatroking> gah, sorry, didn't know it had breaklines in there
[23:45] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, get a backup first
[23:45] <SchrodingersScat> I've not found a huge pattern with windows, normally booting in once cleared that out for me, luckily I learned my lesson and got rid of windows
[23:45] <Quatroking> ObrienDave, been there done that
[23:46] <ObrienDave> then boot into safe mode
[23:46] <hulio> in xchat for ubuntu, how do you press to clear the screen , i use to do CTRL+L
[23:46] <Quatroking> eh, nevermind, ObrienDave
[23:46] <ObrienDave> okay ;P
[23:46] <Quatroking> just realized I hadn't used the windows partition in over a month
[23:47] <Quatroking> might as well just get rid of it and throw the second hdd in a different machine
[23:48] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, did you have a look at that picture?
[23:48] <Quatroking> do I have to boot off livecd in order to extend the size of my ubuntu partition?
[23:48] <hulio> do you
[23:49] <Finetundra> i don't believe so, i didn't
[23:49] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, yup. kind of a precarious situation
[23:50] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, it's safer to do it that way
[23:50] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, so what does it all mean
[23:50] <pbx> hulio, Window > Clear Text
[23:50] <hulio> phx i want combination dude
[23:50] <Freen0deAdmin> hello everyone
[23:50] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, and what needs to be done
[23:50] <pbx> hulio, you'll have to add one. it has none by default
[23:50] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, not sure but i think your partition table needs some help
[23:51] <pbx> hulio, or use the HUD, e.g. tap alt and then c-l-e <return>
[23:51] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, great. what do i do?
[23:51] <lotuspsychje> how can i tail -f wifi issues only from logs?
[23:53] <tortib> What is that URL that tests your bash for shell shock and the other exploits that are patched?
[23:53] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, well, we can try shrinking sda6 and moving it to the right then resizing sda2
[23:53] <tortib> Not shellshocker.net
[23:53] <lotuspsychje> !shellshock | tortib
[23:53] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, great. going for it
[23:53] <tortib> ubottu: not what I asked.
[23:54] <tortib> lol
[23:54] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, but i would STRONGLY suggest doing it from Gparted Live
[23:54] <tortib> lotuspsychje: not what I asked ;)
[23:54] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, WAIT
[23:54] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, how musch do i need to shrink it. ok switching to live
[23:54] <mvensky> has anyone used clonezilla live to clone between 2 machines?
[23:54] <lotuspsychje> tortib: if you update, you know your safe right?
[23:54] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, tell me now then i'll swithc over
[23:55] <tortib> lotuspsychje: yes but I want to test my OS X machine and I want the script to see if it's patched.
[23:55] <lotuspsychje> tortib: not sure howto, think its all about the bash version really
[23:55] <lotuspsychje> !info bash | tortib
[23:55] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, shrink sda6 FROM THE RIGHT to slightly less than the white area (about halfway)
[23:56] <lotuspsychje> tortib: maybe ask in mac channel for the shellshock
[23:56] <tortib> lotuspsychje: what's the channel?
[23:56] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, so grab it on the right then move it till a little after what's in white. do i have that right?
[23:56] <slowmc> mvensky : did it once. It works most of the time, but it is not foolproof
[23:56] <tortib> #shellshock?
[23:57] <lotuspsychje> !alis | tortib
[23:57] <mvensky> slowmc: any documentation/how-to's ?
[23:57] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, sounds good then move sda6 ALL the way to the right
[23:58] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, ok. i'm going to switch to the live and be back in a bit
[23:58] <slowmc> mvensky : humm... not that I can remember. There are 2 possible complications :
[23:58] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, k, i'll be here
[23:58] <loa> is there way to make archive with ability of quick extraction of single file?
[23:58] <Quatroking> oh crap, my ubuntu is installed on my second hdd
[23:58] <slowmc> mvensky : 1) the second disk to clone to need to be as big or bigger than the original image
[23:58] <Quatroking> how can I savely move it to my first?
[23:58] <loa> i have plenty of txt files, and want sometimes compare them from archives.
[23:58] <Quatroking> safely even
[23:58] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, the idea is do get rid of the gray area on the right first
[23:58] <ObrienDave> *is to
[23:58] <slowmc> mvensky : 2) you better have similar computers
[23:59] <mvensky> slowmc: yes I have both
[23:59] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: i think you will be fastest reinstalling :p
[23:59] <Quatroking> gaaah
[23:59] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: 30min of your life :p
[23:59] <mvensky> source computer is stuck at " waiting for the target machine to connect"
[23:59] <Quatroking> can't I just copypaste the partitions, adjust grub and be done with it