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stormzenOn Ubuntu 14, is can the network service be stopped with sudo service networking stop?  It fails for me.  I'm trying to establish if this is normal behavior.00:37
stormzen-is00:37
knomestormzen, first, this is not the ubuntu support channel (this is for xubuntu), and second, there is no version "14", though i guess you are referring to 14.0400:46
stormzenknome, Yes, 14.04.1 ... I thought xubuntu was a form of ubuntu?  No one at ubuntu has answered my question.   ... I waited a bit before seeing if I could find the answer elsewhere.  It seems like it should be an easy answer to determine.  I've never had networking fail to stop or restart on me before.00:50
knomesure, xubuntu shares the same core, but that kind of general questions are best asked on the main channel - especially if you are running ubuntu, because people here might not know all of the things that might have an effect on the issue at hand00:52
stormzenFair enough.00:56
nomicnfs?00:59
LinusTorvaldsIIhi is knome here?01:09
pleia2LinusTorvaldsII: please direct your support questions to the whole channel :) many folks here can help, not just knome01:12
LinusTorvaldsIIthank you01:14
knomeLinusTorvaldsII, humm?01:17
LinusTorvaldsIIhello knome01:17
knome...yes?01:17
LinusTorvaldsIIi am in offtopic may i speak too u there01:17
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anroldi need some help with low/critical/action battery notifications01:48
anroldi've changed the settings in org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power but they are completely ignored01:49
LinusTorvaldsIIhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/92794/how-to-change-critically-low-battery-value01:58
anroldi've done that but it doesn't work01:59
langithow to install libre office offline?01:59
holsteinlangit: you can use the package manager of your choice.. "sudo apt-get install libreoffice" for example02:34
holsteinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice02:34
langitok, im go to wiki'02:35
langithallo04:01
langithelp please04:01
ObrienDaveyes?04:04
langithow to install libre offline04:18
langiti have libre.tar.gz04:18
xanguaextract it and install the deb file, if you have libreoffice or openoffice already installed remove them first04:20
langitoke, im try04:21
ObrienDavehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice04:21
ObrienDaveeasier to follow the instructions here ^^04:22
ObrienDaveand safer04:22
langityes04:23
langitim do04:23
WhatakernelMornin!05:04
zrutyMaybe someone can point me in the right direction: I had a data disk crash. The disk was mounted on my Downloads folder and doubles as my backup disk. I replaced the disk, but now it is constantly telling me it is read only.  What settings can I check? I already made it chown and chmod to accept everything but it is still telling me thet I need 'permission' to do whatever I am trying to do.05:50
ObrienDavezruty, did you set permissions in sudo mode?05:51
zrutyYep05:51
zrutyActually I never use sudo, I just su - root05:51
zrutyand then do it05:51
ObrienDavewe try to not discuss that mode here ;P05:52
zrutyWhat mode?05:54
ObrienDaveroot mode05:54
zrutyWhy not?05:54
zrutySecurity, I bet...05:54
ObrienDavedangerous for newbies05:54
ObrienDaveand security05:55
zrutyRight.... welllllll...05:55
ObrienDavenot a problem05:55
ObrienDaveanyway, i don't know how to help you with this, sorry05:56
ObrienDaveask in #ubuntu05:56
zruty's okay... I am just curious. What I did worked previously but seems not to, anymore...05:57
ObrienDavei've done it. i can't remember how LOL05:58
zruty... I know what that is like!05:59
ObrienDavei'm getting old and slow. wife would ask, getting? ;P05:59
zruty... my wife doesn't even ask anymore...06:00
zrutyAnyway - I will be a bit off (more than usual) now...06:00
zrutyThanks though!06:00
ObrienDaveask in #ubuntu, someone there can help you06:00
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xubuntu25whi07:29
xubuntu25wi need help07:29
gabkdllyWhat do you need help with ?07:33
xubuntu25wplace the taskbar at the bottom07:33
gabkdllyThat is easy !07:33
gabkdllyDo you want  the whole panel at the bottom or just the task bar ?07:34
xubuntu25wwhole panel07:35
gabkdllySo, in settings, go to the panel item.  In the Display tab, there is a checkbox for "Lock panel".  Uncheck that, and then you will be able to drag the panel to the bottom.07:40
gabkdllyNote that when you unlock the panel, an area is reserved to the left of the launcher for you to click on to drag the panel.07:41
gabkdllyOnce you have moved your panel, you can lock it again if you want, if you want that button to drag your panel to be gone again.07:41
gabkdllyDoes this solve your problem ?07:42
xubuntu57whi08:05
xubuntu57wı want to make taskbar some bigger08:06
xubuntu57whow can ı do that08:06
koegsxubuntu57w: right click on taskbar and choose settings08:11
xubuntu57wand08:11
koegshttp://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/preferences08:12
xubuntu57wthx08:13
gambitmenye;yf gjvjom08:42
gambitmenнужна помощь08:42
deshipu!ru | gambitmen09:03
ubottugambitmen: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.09:03
HundTest11:50
knomeFail11:51
dypsilon_Hi everyone, I like how ubuntu is grouping the system tray with window menu and close/minimize buttons is it possible to achieve something like that on xubuntu?14:23
Hedgeworkdypsilon_: Sorry, I don't know (I don't use the default UI), but if you hang around a bit I'm sure someone who does use it can answer.14:29
Hedgeworkdypsilon_: IRC is sometimes asynchronous. ;)14:29
dypsilon_Hedgework, yeah, thanks anyway14:30
dypsilon_Hedgework, what ui do you use?14:33
Hedgeworkdypsilon_: I use a tiling window manager called i3wm (or sometimes just "i3" for short)14:34
HedgeworkI like to have as little chrome and such in my display as possible, so I can use all the screen real estate for working on things.  Also, I find it easier to type the program I want to launch than to click through a bunch of menus.14:35
HedgeworkI mouse so often that if I forget to put my mouse back after borrowing it for another machine, it usually takes me an hour or two to notice. :)14:35
dypsilon_yeah, tiling wms are great, I thought about using one of those today, but I'm stuck with windows on my big machine. The Xubuntu installation is for my netbook but a tiling wm is probably not a good fit for a small screen.14:37
HedgeworkSee, I think it's best for small screens, because you can easily ditch all the title bars and such that waste precious screen space.14:43
HedgeworkMy windows have a 1px border all around -- just enough to change color so I know which window is selected -- and that's it.14:43
* Hedgework shrugs14:44
HedgeworkIt's a matter of preference, but I've found it to be nice.14:44
xubuntu880Let me get this straight: I can ask for help while I'm installing my OS?14:44
HedgeworkYep.14:44
xubuntu880Sweet!14:45
HedgeworkIsn't that one of the top-50 times you're most likely to need help?14:45
* Hedgework thinks this is only logical.14:45
xubuntu880...which is why M$ doesn't do it.  :grin:14:45
dypsilon_Hedgework, hm, that's a good point, I'll try i3 in a vm, let's see how it feels.14:46
Hedgework:)14:46
xubuntu880I *do* have a simple question: how do I set up a hard drive with Xubuntu that is hardware agnostic?  Way back when I had Mandrake on a HD that a friend loaned me, and I could drop it into any machine knowing that it would just... work.14:47
dypsilon_Hedgework, so I would just install i3 on top of the default xubuntu 14.04 then?14:47
Hedgeworkdypsilon_: I'm not sure whether they are included by default, but you'll probably also want: i3bar, i3status, dmenu, and a notification daemon of your choosing (the default xubuntu one is a bit kludgy-looking in i3)14:48
Hedgeworkdypsilon_: yep, you can select which environment to work in (xfce4, i3, etc) at login14:49
dypsilon_Hedgework, ah, thanks14:50
Hedgeworkxubuntu880: Xubuntu is *mostly* hardware-agnostic in the default install...that is, they compile every freaking thing under the sun into the kernel.  Where you might run into trouble is video drivers and whatnot, or systems where the X autodetection stuff isn't adequate...come to think of it, is there a reason you aren't doing a portable USB install?  I ask only because there are prebuilt images for it and14:50
Hedgeworkit might save you time/effort.14:51
Hedgeworkdypsilon_: np14:51
dypsilon_amazing how much faster xubuntu works compared to ubuntu15:16
ObrienDavewe like it :)15:16
sohail-ahmedI have a little problem. Two of my apps are displaying strange characters while other programs are runinign fine. Here is the screen shot:16:41
sohail-ahmedI have having a little problem and have to show you a screen shot. What's the standard are for posting screenshots?16:42
GridCube!imagebin16:45
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here.16:45
sohail-ahmedGridCube: Thanks16:50
sohail-ahmedHere is the problem: At present two of my programs are displaying strange characters at their GUI. The rest of my system is working perfectly alright. For example calibre, I have also reinstalled it in vain. http://imgur.com/jEmiSI6 . Any help???16:51
mewla4newbie help was installing version 14 alongside xp pro. got to stage 4 install now, and have left it running it now appears to be frozen, mouse doesnt work and the cursor is not showing the revolving dots16:58
mewla4is it safe to just powerdown or is there a recognised reset procedure16:59
GridCubesohail-ahmed, seems like you qt configuration files are calling for a different locale17:00
GridCubesohail-ahmed, install qt4-qtconfig and use it to change the setting17:02
sohail-ahmedGridCube: Thanks for responding. How can I solve this. Moreover let me repeat all other GUIs are working correct17:02
GridCubesohail-ahmed, yes, all the other applications are using the gtk engine, not the qt one17:02
GridCubecalibre uses qt to render its interface17:02
GridCube!qt17:03
ubottuthe Qt toolkit (pronounced "cute"), which forms the base of !KDE, is a cross-platform C++ application framework for !CLI and !GUI applications. Install libqt4-dev and see !build to compile Qt4 applications, join #qt for development support17:03
GridCube!gtk | different from17:03
ubottudifferent from: GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI17:03
sohail-ahmedGridCube: so I should do sudo apt-get install qt4-qtconfig17:04
sohail-ahmedcorrct?17:04
GridCubeyes17:04
sohail-ahmedGridCube: I have installed the suggested package but this has not solved the problem.17:06
GridCubenow, you go to the settings manager from the start menu, and at the bottom you will find the settings manager17:06
sohail-ahmedok, then?17:06
GridCubeopen it, it will probably show you broken fonts as well, as its rendering in qt17:07
sohail-ahmedyou mean qt4-settings?17:07
GridCubeyes17:07
sohail-ahmedyes its showing me that font again.17:07
GridCubemmhm, yes17:08
GridCubesecond tab has the fonts settings17:08
sohail-ahmedits again the same langyuage17:08
GridCubeyes17:08
sohail-ahmedso what to do now?17:08
GridCubetry changing the fonts from there sohail-ahmed , even if you don't know what font you choose, you can't get worst17:09
sohail-ahmedwhich of the drop down is of fonts, since there are many.17:09
sohail-ahmed4 of them17:10
GridCubeyes, sorry, its the first one, but before you do anything, read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214095717:10
GridCubelast comment seems to have the solution you need17:11
sohail-ahmedGridCube: I am sorry to engage you for that long. But I could not correct the problem. Here is what I have done. I edited my locale file at the mentioned location with sudo, this is my file : http://pastebin.com/Bmcx2bKd . Then I did $ sudo locale-gen as isntructed. Here is the output: http://pastebin.com/W751UzgU. As you can see I am still getting ur_PK. and thus the calibre is still giving me that strange font17:25
GridCubesohail-ahmed, you should probably add LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" to /etc/default/locale17:27
GridCube!locale17:29
ubottuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale/17:29
GridCubesohail-ahmed, ^ you could read that as well17:29
sohail-ahmedThanks for the links. I am starting to read them but mean while let me update. adding the suggested LC_ALL has produced the same output17:30
GridCubewell, sorry, i don't know what else to do17:30
GridCube:D at least you now know what the problem is17:31
sohail-ahmedyou dont need to be sorry. you were very helpful17:31
GridCubeonce you get your locales fixed the problem will go away17:31
GridCubesohail-ahmed, i highly recommend you backup and save all files before editing anything from them17:32
GridCubealso revert them to default if changing something doesnt help17:32
GridCubesohail-ahmed, also, it's very probable that locale changes don't apply until you relog17:33
sohail-ahmedok let me relog17:34
SynchunkHello, is there a way of replacing the default xfce login shell with a custom bash script?17:35
holsteinSynchunk: there really isnt a default xfce login shell.. are you talking about the xubuntu greeter?17:36
Synchunkuh, yes17:37
SynchunkThe thing that asks for your password. Sorry, kinda new to this stuff17:37
holsteinSynchunk: so, you are talking about the graphical login? what are you trying to change?17:37
SynchunkI'd like to completely remove it and run a bash script instead (and then automatically log in)17:37
holstein!nogui17:38
holstein!text17:38
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode17:38
SynchunkThanks, I'll take a look at that!17:38
holsteinthats probably what you are looking for ^.. login into text mode, start what you like manually17:38
Synchunkthank you :)17:39
holsteinor, you can "autostart" some script, which would be related to xfce17:39
sohail-ahmedGridCube: Mean while I am reading the wiki's, here is an update. After logging in. $ locale shows the actually locale file unlike previously. http://pastebin.com/JgCuZuJ7 but the problem is still their.17:42
GridCube*there17:42
GridCubesohail-ahmed, notice how all the other locales in the list you pasted have "", and the ones you edited do not17:43
sohail-ahmedGridCube: I am sorry but I have not got your point.17:45
GridCubenothing, i just find it odd, the only ones that don't have the "" are those, maybe thats the problem? i don't know17:46
GridCubesohail-ahmed, mind to try this? execute on a terminal: LC_ALL=en_US calibre17:49
sohail-ahmedGridCube: LC_All = en_US is not possible, since en_U17:52
GridCubesohail-ahmed, no spaces17:52
GridCubeanyway, it will probably fail17:53
sohail-ahmedGridCube: since en_US is not available on my computer as locale -a showsn. Instead LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 calibre lanuched calibre without any changes17:53
GridCube:/17:54
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milad1512there is a them i want to install, spidervoid , how do i do it ?20:08
milad1512theme20:08
knosyshey guys, would mode 0755 be secure for public /var/www web directory?20:11
knosysmaybe im offtopic, sorry then20:11
HedgeworkNo.20:13
Hedgeworkknosys: That says that every file in the directory should be treated as executable.20:13
knosysOh, then notç20:13
Hedgeworkknosys: 755 on directories and 644 on files should be fine (assuming none of the files should be executable)20:13
knosysand then 755 on the index for example?20:14
HedgeworkAlso assuming that the apache (or other httpd) runs-as user is not the owner.20:14
knosyson the index file20:14
Hedgeworkif it's html it should be 644, if php you want executed for example then 75520:14
knosysphp it is20:14
knosysokay, not only read but execute, got it20:15
knosysincluded file must have same permission also?20:15
knosysi think not, sorry if its a rookie question :)20:16
xubuntu90wduring bootprocess the system answers three times: FILE NOT FOUND. What should I do?20:16
knosysxubuntu90w: maybe you could try enabling boot logging20:18
knosysand reboot to see those log later20:18
xubuntu90wthe fault appears after upgrading to 14.0420:18
knosysxubuntu90w: in this file you could see if boot log is enabled i think: /etc/default/bootlogd20:20
knosysanyway if someone more experienced can help, better >.<20:20
knosysthere you should find the line: BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=20:20
xubuntu90wthanks20:21
knosysnp20:21
knosysat least maybe there you could see which file's are missing20:21
knosysthanks hedgework :)20:24
Hedgeworkknosys: np20:24
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knosysHedgework: can i ask related to that? you said that apache service wont be the owner of the files?20:37
knosysi mean, the user that runs apache, shouldnt be the owner of those directories?20:37
Hedgeworkknosys: Apache should NEVER have write access to anything executable, EVER.20:37
Hedgeworkknosys: otherwise you end up in security hell20:37
knosysYeah im scared about that. I just installed apache package, made few virtual hosts and enabled php... i wont forward ports until i got this cleared out20:38
knosysi dont even know what user is running apache service yet hehe20:38
Hedgeworkit's www-data by default on ubuntu20:40
knosysbut im guessing its the same user i login with, the one that installed server20:40
knosysIs that a username? :_D20:41
knosyswait i think i need to search basic stuff on google. thanks again20:41
Hedgeworkgood luck!20:44
milad1512anyone knows how to install themes ?20:46
knomemilad1512, have you checked the documentation shipped with your system?20:46
milad1512what documentation ?20:47
milad1512knome , what do you mean ?20:48
knomemilad1512, "help" in the applications menu describes how to install themes20:48
knosyshey hello there knome!20:49
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Naphatulwhat do i need to do so my android device is available for mounting?22:04
ObrienDavemtp-tools22:06
deshipuI think thunar has mtp working out of the box in recent versions22:06
ObrienDave!info mtp-tools22:06
ubottumtp-tools (source: libmtp): Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-20-g1b9f164-1ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 40 kB, installed size 225 kB22:06
deshipuSo you just have to connect it with an usb cable while the screen is unlocked22:07
ObrienDavethat's how my S5 mounts, yes22:08
Naphatuldeshipu, well it isn't mounting it22:08
Naphatulnot even showing22:08
Naphatuldmesg: http://kopy.io/DNOy9#pIhAS622:09
deshipuNaphatul: what version of android?22:12
Naphatuldeshipu, 4.2.222:12
xanguaWhat ubuntu release?22:12
Naphatul14.0422:12
deshipuNaphatul: on your device, go to settings, storage22:13
deshiputhen press the menu button in the top right corner and select USB22:13
Naphatulit's set to mtp22:13
deshipumake sure it's set to MTP and not PTP22:14
deshipuoh, ok22:14
Naphatulptp doesn't work either though22:14
Naphatulfor what it's worth22:14
deshipuwell, it would, but not in the file manager, only in the gthumb22:14
deshipuanyways22:14
deshipumaybe try those mtp tools...22:15
deshipuit should work though22:15
deshipumake sure the screen is unlocked when you are connecting -- I had a problem with that22:15
deshipuit should appear in the file manager in the side pane under "Devices"22:16
Naphatulmtp-tools says it's an unknown device, guess i'll submit it tommorow22:19
Naphatulguess ftp it is22:24
nrgyzerbennyThe file  /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume isn't there.23:13
nrgyzerbennyThis is a problem becaus emy swap partition isn't working.23:13
nrgyzerbenny*my23:14
nrgyzerbenny*because23:14

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