[00:37] <stormzen> On Ubuntu 14, is can the network service be stopped with sudo service networking stop?  It fails for me.  I'm trying to establish if this is normal behavior.
[00:37] <stormzen> -is
[00:46] <knome> stormzen, first, this is not the ubuntu support channel (this is for xubuntu), and second, there is no version "14", though i guess you are referring to 14.04
[00:50] <stormzen> knome, Yes, 14.04.1 ... I thought xubuntu was a form of ubuntu?  No one at ubuntu has answered my question.   ... I waited a bit before seeing if I could find the answer elsewhere.  It seems like it should be an easy answer to determine.  I've never had networking fail to stop or restart on me before.
[00:52] <knome> sure, xubuntu shares the same core, but that kind of general questions are best asked on the main channel - especially if you are running ubuntu, because people here might not know all of the things that might have an effect on the issue at hand
[00:56] <stormzen> Fair enough.
[00:59] <nomic> nfs?
[01:09] <LinusTorvaldsII> hi is knome here?
[01:12] <pleia2> LinusTorvaldsII: please direct your support questions to the whole channel :) many folks here can help, not just knome
[01:14] <LinusTorvaldsII> thank you
[01:17] <knome> LinusTorvaldsII, humm?
[01:17] <LinusTorvaldsII> hello knome
[01:17] <knome> ...yes?
[01:17] <LinusTorvaldsII> i am in offtopic may i speak too u there
[01:48] <anrold> i need some help with low/critical/action battery notifications
[01:49] <anrold> i've changed the settings in org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power but they are completely ignored
[01:58] <LinusTorvaldsII> http://askubuntu.com/questions/92794/how-to-change-critically-low-battery-value
[01:59] <anrold> i've done that but it doesn't work
[01:59] <langit> how to install libre office offline?
[02:34] <holstein> langit: you can use the package manager of your choice.. "sudo apt-get install libreoffice" for example
[02:34] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice
[02:35] <langit> ok, im go to wiki'
[04:01] <langit> hallo
[04:01] <langit> help please
[04:04] <ObrienDave> yes?
[04:18] <langit> how to install libre offline
[04:18] <langit> i have libre.tar.gz
[04:20] <xangua> extract it and install the deb file, if you have libreoffice or openoffice already installed remove them first
[04:21] <langit> oke, im try
[04:21] <ObrienDave> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice
[04:22] <ObrienDave> easier to follow the instructions here ^^
[04:22] <ObrienDave> and safer
[04:23] <langit> yes
[04:23] <langit> im do
[05:04] <Whatakernel> Mornin!
[05:50] <zruty> Maybe someone can point me in the right direction: I had a data disk crash. The disk was mounted on my Downloads folder and doubles as my backup disk. I replaced the disk, but now it is constantly telling me it is read only.  What settings can I check? I already made it chown and chmod to accept everything but it is still telling me thet I need 'permission' to do whatever I am trying to do.
[05:51] <ObrienDave> zruty, did you set permissions in sudo mode?
[05:51] <zruty> Yep
[05:51] <zruty> Actually I never use sudo, I just su - root
[05:51] <zruty> and then do it
[05:52] <ObrienDave> we try to not discuss that mode here ;P
[05:54] <zruty> What mode?
[05:54] <ObrienDave> root mode
[05:54] <zruty> Why not?
[05:54] <zruty> Security, I bet...
[05:54] <ObrienDave> dangerous for newbies
[05:55] <ObrienDave> and security
[05:55] <zruty> Right.... welllllll...
[05:55] <ObrienDave> not a problem
[05:56] <ObrienDave> anyway, i don't know how to help you with this, sorry
[05:56] <ObrienDave> ask in #ubuntu
[05:57] <zruty> 's okay... I am just curious. What I did worked previously but seems not to, anymore...
[05:58] <ObrienDave> i've done it. i can't remember how LOL
[05:59] <zruty> ... I know what that is like!
[05:59] <ObrienDave> i'm getting old and slow. wife would ask, getting? ;P
[06:00] <zruty> ... my wife doesn't even ask anymore...
[06:00] <zruty> Anyway - I will be a bit off (more than usual) now...
[06:00] <zruty> Thanks though!
[06:00] <ObrienDave> ask in #ubuntu, someone there can help you
[07:29] <xubuntu25w> hi
[07:29] <xubuntu25w> i need help
[07:33] <gabkdlly> What do you need help with ?
[07:33] <xubuntu25w> place the taskbar at the bottom
[07:33] <gabkdlly> That is easy !
[07:34] <gabkdlly> Do you want  the whole panel at the bottom or just the task bar ?
[07:35] <xubuntu25w> whole panel
[07:40] <gabkdlly> So, in settings, go to the panel item.  In the Display tab, there is a checkbox for "Lock panel".  Uncheck that, and then you will be able to drag the panel to the bottom.
[07:41] <gabkdlly> Note that when you unlock the panel, an area is reserved to the left of the launcher for you to click on to drag the panel.
[07:41] <gabkdlly> Once you have moved your panel, you can lock it again if you want, if you want that button to drag your panel to be gone again.
[07:42] <gabkdlly> Does this solve your problem ?
[08:05] <xubuntu57w> hi
[08:06] <xubuntu57w> ı want to make taskbar some bigger
[08:06] <xubuntu57w> how can ı do that
[08:11] <koegs> xubuntu57w: right click on taskbar and choose settings
[08:11] <xubuntu57w> and
[08:12] <koegs> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/preferences
[08:13] <xubuntu57w> thx
[08:42] <gambitmen> ye;yf gjvjom
[08:42] <gambitmen> нужна помощь
[09:03] <deshipu> !ru | gambitmen
[11:50] <Hund> Test
[11:51] <knome> Fail
[14:23] <dypsilon_> Hi everyone, I like how ubuntu is grouping the system tray with window menu and close/minimize buttons is it possible to achieve something like that on xubuntu?
[14:29] <Hedgework> dypsilon_: Sorry, I don't know (I don't use the default UI), but if you hang around a bit I'm sure someone who does use it can answer.
[14:29] <Hedgework> dypsilon_: IRC is sometimes asynchronous. ;)
[14:30] <dypsilon_> Hedgework, yeah, thanks anyway
[14:33] <dypsilon_> Hedgework, what ui do you use?
[14:34] <Hedgework> dypsilon_: I use a tiling window manager called i3wm (or sometimes just "i3" for short)
[14:35] <Hedgework> I like to have as little chrome and such in my display as possible, so I can use all the screen real estate for working on things.  Also, I find it easier to type the program I want to launch than to click through a bunch of menus.
[14:35] <Hedgework> I mouse so often that if I forget to put my mouse back after borrowing it for another machine, it usually takes me an hour or two to notice. :)
[14:37] <dypsilon_> yeah, tiling wms are great, I thought about using one of those today, but I'm stuck with windows on my big machine. The Xubuntu installation is for my netbook but a tiling wm is probably not a good fit for a small screen.
[14:43] <Hedgework> See, I think it's best for small screens, because you can easily ditch all the title bars and such that waste precious screen space.
[14:43] <Hedgework> My windows have a 1px border all around -- just enough to change color so I know which window is selected -- and that's it.
[14:44]  * Hedgework shrugs
[14:44] <Hedgework> It's a matter of preference, but I've found it to be nice.
[14:44] <xubuntu880> Let me get this straight: I can ask for help while I'm installing my OS?
[14:44] <Hedgework> Yep.
[14:45] <xubuntu880> Sweet!
[14:45] <Hedgework> Isn't that one of the top-50 times you're most likely to need help?
[14:45]  * Hedgework thinks this is only logical.
[14:45] <xubuntu880> ...which is why M$ doesn't do it.  :grin:
[14:46] <dypsilon_> Hedgework, hm, that's a good point, I'll try i3 in a vm, let's see how it feels.
[14:46] <Hedgework> :)
[14:47] <xubuntu880> I *do* have a simple question: how do I set up a hard drive with Xubuntu that is hardware agnostic?  Way back when I had Mandrake on a HD that a friend loaned me, and I could drop it into any machine knowing that it would just... work.
[14:47] <dypsilon_> Hedgework, so I would just install i3 on top of the default xubuntu 14.04 then?
[14:48] <Hedgework> dypsilon_: I'm not sure whether they are included by default, but you'll probably also want: i3bar, i3status, dmenu, and a notification daemon of your choosing (the default xubuntu one is a bit kludgy-looking in i3)
[14:49] <Hedgework> dypsilon_: yep, you can select which environment to work in (xfce4, i3, etc) at login
[14:50] <dypsilon_> Hedgework, ah, thanks
[14:50] <Hedgework> xubuntu880: Xubuntu is *mostly* hardware-agnostic in the default install...that is, they compile every freaking thing under the sun into the kernel.  Where you might run into trouble is video drivers and whatnot, or systems where the X autodetection stuff isn't adequate...come to think of it, is there a reason you aren't doing a portable USB install?  I ask only because there are prebuilt images for it and
[14:51] <Hedgework> it might save you time/effort.
[14:51] <Hedgework> dypsilon_: np
[15:16] <dypsilon_> amazing how much faster xubuntu works compared to ubuntu
[15:16] <ObrienDave> we like it :)
[16:41] <sohail-ahmed> I have a little problem. Two of my apps are displaying strange characters while other programs are runinign fine. Here is the screen shot:
[16:42] <sohail-ahmed> I have having a little problem and have to show you a screen shot. What's the standard are for posting screenshots?
[16:45] <GridCube> !imagebin
[16:50] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube: Thanks
[16:51] <sohail-ahmed> Here is the problem: At present two of my programs are displaying strange characters at their GUI. The rest of my system is working perfectly alright. For example calibre, I have also reinstalled it in vain. http://imgur.com/jEmiSI6 . Any help???
[16:58] <mewla4> newbie help was installing version 14 alongside xp pro. got to stage 4 install now, and have left it running it now appears to be frozen, mouse doesnt work and the cursor is not showing the revolving dots
[16:59] <mewla4> is it safe to just powerdown or is there a recognised reset procedure
[17:00] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, seems like you qt configuration files are calling for a different locale
[17:02] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, install qt4-qtconfig and use it to change the setting
[17:02] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube: Thanks for responding. How can I solve this. Moreover let me repeat all other GUIs are working correct
[17:02] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, yes, all the other applications are using the gtk engine, not the qt one
[17:02] <GridCube> calibre uses qt to render its interface
[17:03] <GridCube> !qt
[17:03] <GridCube> !gtk | different from
[17:04] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube: so I should do sudo apt-get install qt4-qtconfig
[17:04] <sohail-ahmed> corrct?
[17:04] <GridCube> yes
[17:06] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube: I have installed the suggested package but this has not solved the problem.
[17:06] <GridCube> now, you go to the settings manager from the start menu, and at the bottom you will find the settings manager
[17:06] <sohail-ahmed> ok, then?
[17:07] <GridCube> open it, it will probably show you broken fonts as well, as its rendering in qt
[17:07] <sohail-ahmed> you mean qt4-settings?
[17:07] <GridCube> yes
[17:07] <sohail-ahmed> yes its showing me that font again.
[17:08] <GridCube> mmhm, yes
[17:08] <GridCube> second tab has the fonts settings
[17:08] <sohail-ahmed> its again the same langyuage
[17:08] <GridCube> yes
[17:08] <sohail-ahmed> so what to do now?
[17:09] <GridCube> try changing the fonts from there sohail-ahmed , even if you don't know what font you choose, you can't get worst
[17:09] <sohail-ahmed> which of the drop down is of fonts, since there are many.
[17:10] <sohail-ahmed> 4 of them
[17:10] <GridCube> yes, sorry, its the first one, but before you do anything, read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140957
[17:11] <GridCube> last comment seems to have the solution you need
[17:25] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube: I am sorry to engage you for that long. But I could not correct the problem. Here is what I have done. I edited my locale file at the mentioned location with sudo, this is my file : http://pastebin.com/Bmcx2bKd . Then I did $ sudo locale-gen as isntructed. Here is the output: http://pastebin.com/W751UzgU. As you can see I am still getting ur_PK. and thus the calibre is still giving me that strange font
[17:27] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, you should probably add LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" to /etc/default/locale
[17:29] <GridCube> !locale
[17:29] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, ^ you could read that as well
[17:30] <sohail-ahmed> Thanks for the links. I am starting to read them but mean while let me update. adding the suggested LC_ALL has produced the same output
[17:30] <GridCube> well, sorry, i don't know what else to do
[17:31] <GridCube> :D at least you now know what the problem is
[17:31] <sohail-ahmed> you dont need to be sorry. you were very helpful
[17:31] <GridCube> once you get your locales fixed the problem will go away
[17:32] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, i highly recommend you backup and save all files before editing anything from them
[17:32] <GridCube> also revert them to default if changing something doesnt help
[17:33] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, also, it's very probable that locale changes don't apply until you relog
[17:34] <sohail-ahmed> ok let me relog
[17:35] <Synchunk> Hello, is there a way of replacing the default xfce login shell with a custom bash script?
[17:36] <holstein> Synchunk: there really isnt a default xfce login shell.. are you talking about the xubuntu greeter?
[17:37] <Synchunk> uh, yes
[17:37] <Synchunk> The thing that asks for your password. Sorry, kinda new to this stuff
[17:37] <holstein> Synchunk: so, you are talking about the graphical login? what are you trying to change?
[17:37] <Synchunk> I'd like to completely remove it and run a bash script instead (and then automatically log in)
[17:38] <holstein> !nogui
[17:38] <holstein> !text
[17:38] <Synchunk> Thanks, I'll take a look at that!
[17:38] <holstein> thats probably what you are looking for ^.. login into text mode, start what you like manually
[17:39] <Synchunk> thank you :)
[17:39] <holstein> or, you can "autostart" some script, which would be related to xfce
[17:42] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube: Mean while I am reading the wiki's, here is an update. After logging in. $ locale shows the actually locale file unlike previously. http://pastebin.com/JgCuZuJ7 but the problem is still their.
[17:42] <GridCube> *there
[17:43] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, notice how all the other locales in the list you pasted have "", and the ones you edited do not
[17:45] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube: I am sorry but I have not got your point.
[17:46] <GridCube> nothing, i just find it odd, the only ones that don't have the "" are those, maybe thats the problem? i don't know
[17:49] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, mind to try this? execute on a terminal: LC_ALL=en_US calibre
[17:52] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube: LC_All = en_US is not possible, since en_U
[17:52] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, no spaces
[17:53] <GridCube> anyway, it will probably fail
[17:53] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube: since en_US is not available on my computer as locale -a showsn. Instead LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 calibre lanuched calibre without any changes
[17:54] <GridCube> :/
[20:08] <milad1512> there is a them i want to install, spidervoid , how do i do it ?
[20:08] <milad1512> theme
[20:11] <knosys> hey guys, would mode 0755 be secure for public /var/www web directory?
[20:11] <knosys> maybe im offtopic, sorry then
[20:13] <Hedgework> No.
[20:13] <Hedgework> knosys: That says that every file in the directory should be treated as executable.
[20:13] <knosys> Oh, then notç
[20:13] <Hedgework> knosys: 755 on directories and 644 on files should be fine (assuming none of the files should be executable)
[20:14] <knosys> and then 755 on the index for example?
[20:14] <Hedgework> Also assuming that the apache (or other httpd) runs-as user is not the owner.
[20:14] <knosys> on the index file
[20:14] <Hedgework> if it's html it should be 644, if php you want executed for example then 755
[20:14] <knosys> php it is
[20:15] <knosys> okay, not only read but execute, got it
[20:15] <knosys> included file must have same permission also?
[20:16] <knosys> i think not, sorry if its a rookie question :)
[20:16] <xubuntu90w> during bootprocess the system answers three times: FILE NOT FOUND. What should I do?
[20:18] <knosys> xubuntu90w: maybe you could try enabling boot logging
[20:18] <knosys> and reboot to see those log later
[20:18] <xubuntu90w> the fault appears after upgrading to 14.04
[20:20] <knosys> xubuntu90w: in this file you could see if boot log is enabled i think: /etc/default/bootlogd
[20:20] <knosys> anyway if someone more experienced can help, better >.<
[20:20] <knosys> there you should find the line: BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=
[20:21] <xubuntu90w> thanks
[20:21] <knosys> np
[20:21] <knosys> at least maybe there you could see which file's are missing
[20:24] <knosys> thanks hedgework :)
[20:24] <Hedgework> knosys: np
[20:37] <knosys> Hedgework: can i ask related to that? you said that apache service wont be the owner of the files?
[20:37] <knosys> i mean, the user that runs apache, shouldnt be the owner of those directories?
[20:37] <Hedgework> knosys: Apache should NEVER have write access to anything executable, EVER.
[20:37] <Hedgework> knosys: otherwise you end up in security hell
[20:38] <knosys> Yeah im scared about that. I just installed apache package, made few virtual hosts and enabled php... i wont forward ports until i got this cleared out
[20:38] <knosys> i dont even know what user is running apache service yet hehe
[20:40] <Hedgework> it's www-data by default on ubuntu
[20:40] <knosys> but im guessing its the same user i login with, the one that installed server
[20:41] <knosys> Is that a username? :_D
[20:41] <knosys> wait i think i need to search basic stuff on google. thanks again
[20:44] <Hedgework> good luck!
[20:46] <milad1512> anyone knows how to install themes ?
[20:46] <knome> milad1512, have you checked the documentation shipped with your system?
[20:47] <milad1512> what documentation ?
[20:48] <milad1512> knome , what do you mean ?
[20:48] <knome> milad1512, "help" in the applications menu describes how to install themes
[20:49] <knosys> hey hello there knome!
[22:04] <Naphatul> what do i need to do so my android device is available for mounting?
[22:06] <ObrienDave> mtp-tools
[22:06] <deshipu> I think thunar has mtp working out of the box in recent versions
[22:06] <ObrienDave> !info mtp-tools
[22:07] <deshipu> So you just have to connect it with an usb cable while the screen is unlocked
[22:08] <ObrienDave> that's how my S5 mounts, yes
[22:08] <Naphatul> deshipu, well it isn't mounting it
[22:08] <Naphatul> not even showing
[22:09] <Naphatul> dmesg: http://kopy.io/DNOy9#pIhAS6
[22:12] <deshipu> Naphatul: what version of android?
[22:12] <Naphatul> deshipu, 4.2.2
[22:12] <xangua> What ubuntu release?
[22:12] <Naphatul> 14.04
[22:13] <deshipu> Naphatul: on your device, go to settings, storage
[22:13] <deshipu> then press the menu button in the top right corner and select USB
[22:13] <Naphatul> it's set to mtp
[22:14] <deshipu> make sure it's set to MTP and not PTP
[22:14] <deshipu> oh, ok
[22:14] <Naphatul> ptp doesn't work either though
[22:14] <Naphatul> for what it's worth
[22:14] <deshipu> well, it would, but not in the file manager, only in the gthumb
[22:14] <deshipu> anyways
[22:15] <deshipu> maybe try those mtp tools...
[22:15] <deshipu> it should work though
[22:15] <deshipu> make sure the screen is unlocked when you are connecting -- I had a problem with that
[22:16] <deshipu> it should appear in the file manager in the side pane under "Devices"
[22:19] <Naphatul> mtp-tools says it's an unknown device, guess i'll submit it tommorow
[22:24] <Naphatul> guess ftp it is
[23:13] <nrgyzerbenny> The file  /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume isn't there.
[23:13] <nrgyzerbenny> This is a problem becaus emy swap partition isn't working.
[23:14] <nrgyzerbenny> *my
[23:14] <nrgyzerbenny> *because