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sahilhi, i am having problem in connecting to this IRC through quassel IRC.02:08
sahilHelp me please02:08
apacheloggerapoi: export QT_SELECT=504:47
apacheloggerah wrong one, sorry ^^04:47
apacheloggeroh, one week to final it is already06:40
apacheloggersuch magic06:40
lordievaderGood morning.06:44
valorieI thought Riddell said earlier that there would be no RC?06:46
valoriealso apachelogger, I got a neato quote from the sunday paper for you, from Terry Pratchett: Opera happens when a large number of things amazingly fail to go wrong06:48
apacheloggerindeed06:49
apacheloggeras for RC, dunno, maybe it got canceled ^^06:50
apacheloggerwould be peculiar though06:50
valorieSeattle Opera has a new director06:50
Tm_Trelease without RC sounds, err, risky?06:59
apachelogger*shrug*06:59
valoriethe release after an LTS is always a bit chancy, right?07:00
apacheloggeryeah07:02
Tm_Tdon't forget that our release would ofcourse be perfect anyway (:07:06
lordievaderThat's a given, indeed ;)07:12
apacheloggerdpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/systemsettings-data_4%3a5.0.2+git20140920.1008.0_amd64.deb (--unpack):07:19
apachelogger trying to overwrite '/usr/share/systemsettings/systemsettings.kcfg', which is also in package systemsettings 4:5.1.0.1+git20141015.0514-0ubuntu007:19
apacheloggerI am going to throw myself of a cliff07:19
apacheloggerwhy is that stuck at 5.0.2 anyway07:20
* apachelogger squints07:20
apacheloggerah, I ripped it out07:21
* valorie straps wings onto apachelogger07:22
* bshah imagines apachelogger with his magic hat and wings..07:23
apacheloggerfairy wizard™07:24
valorieand the hat07:25
valoriegotta have the wizard hat07:25
apacheloggeroh btw08:02
apacheloggeram I the only one with klipper problems?08:02
apacheloggerdoesn't work half th etime08:02
valorieI had problems too, but I couldn't pin it down enough to file a bug08:03
Tm_Tapachelogger: haven't had any issues08:12
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sgclarkmorning10:48
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Riddellhi sgclark 12:08
sgclarkhiyas12:08
tazztried upgrading a fresh install from kubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso to 14.10, failed with the following errors ==> http://pastebin.com/Etggx6Pi12:29
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BluesKaj_Hiyas all12:36
sgclarkhiyas12:36
BluesKaj_what's up today, sgclark ?12:37
sgclarknot much here12:39
BluesKaj_ok, think there might be a bug in cups with a network printer connected to a router via usb. The printer seems to be recognized, but is always "in use" when trying to print.12:43
apacheloggerubuntu-bug cups12:45
BluesKaj_ok apachelogger , collecting info now, thanks12:48
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shadeslayerRiddell: apachelogger kdeconnect upstream author wants a new kdeconnect version in 13:25
shadeslayerbut it has new features and stuff13:25
shadeslayerreckon we can put it in backports?13:25
shadeslayeror just upload to utopic13:25
soeeshadeslayer: does it work woth Plasma5 systray ?13:31
soee*with13:31
shadeslayernot that I know of13:33
Riddellshadeslayer: FFe it?13:34
* Sick_Rimmit_Test ooo testing testing testing tum tee tum tum ...14:03
RiddellSick_Rimmit_Test: what ye testing?14:27
Sick_Rimmit_TestRiddell: Oooo secret apt repo... stuff14:27
Sick_Rimmit_TestRiddell: Working really well so far, 2 days using in anger as my desktop at work, looks good. I've had no problems sofar14:28
Riddellgreat14:29
Sick_Rimmit_TestRiddell: I'll keep runing it tomorrow, but to be fair I think the build is good. Where you planning to release in 14.1014:31
Riddellno too late for 4.14.2, it'll just be in kubuntu-ppa updates and then we'll SRU it14:32
Sick_Rimmit_TestRiddell: OK, that's fine14:32
Sick_Rimmit_TestWhile I think of it fine folks in kubuntu-devel14:33
Sick_Rimmit_TestI put a tech podcast together atrandom.org.uk14:34
Sick_Rimmit_TestI would like to get a Kubutnu developer on as a guest to talk about becoming a kubuntu developer14:34
Sick_Rimmit_Testping me if you would be up for doing this14:34
* Riddell nudges sgclark in the direction of Sick_Rimmit_Test 14:35
Sick_Rimmit_Testsgclark: Hi Scarlet, would you be interesting in doing a Google Hangout wit me14:44
sgclarkumm I am not a developer yet14:47
Riddellyes you are!14:47
Riddellwe can do it together if you like14:47
Sick_Rimmit_Testtake a look at atrandom.org.uk14:48
sgclarkwhen is this? I am going out of town this weekend14:48
Sick_Rimmit_TestI do this with John, and Jackson.. both nice guys14:48
Sick_Rimmit_Testplus I can also pick your brains to help me get my skills in place too14:48
Sick_Rimmit_TestOh we can arrange it to suit.14:48
Sick_Rimmit_TestCan be in November if you like14:48
sgclarkOk I am game if Riddell is14:49
Riddellawooga14:49
sgclarkanytime but this Saturday -  Monday14:50
Sick_Rimmit_TestAwesome14:50
sgclarkI otherwise have no life really haha14:50
Sick_Rimmit_TestDo you guys have G+ accounts ?14:50
Riddellyes14:50
sgclarkyeah14:51
Riddellhow about friday after the release?14:51
Riddella week tomorrow14:51
sgclarkwhat time is the most important, so I can not be in my jammies haha14:51
Sick_Rimmit_TestOo.. How about a week today, at which is our next show14:51
Sick_Rimmit_TestIt's at 9.30pm UK Time14:52
Riddellthat should be ok, release should be done by then14:52
sgclarkahh yeah that is afternoon for me, I am safe14:53
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Sick_Rimmit_TestOK Grrrrrreat!!14:53
RiddellMamarok: what is "gateway/shell/kde"?14:53
Sick_Rimmit_TestAre Riddell and sgclark on Google+, if so can you ping me your G+ names.14:56
Riddelljonathan riddell14:56
Sick_Rimmit_TestOK Cool so I am Rick Timmis will add you to my circles14:58
sgclarkSick_Rimmit_Test: https://plus.google.com/+ScarlettClark15:02
Sick_Rimmit_TestSuperb, will add you both and then send you invites to the show15:03
sgclarkok15:03
sgclarksuppose I outta update my profile someday15:03
seaLnesome thing i noticed when trying plasma 5 was that after installing it and rebooting lightdm was trying to use last session which just left you with just the 4.14 or lightdm background after logging in which resulted in it appearing to me that 5 didn't work at all which was disapointing and may have put others off. rather than when i changed manually to a plasma session from the login i got lots of15:06
seaLnenice shiny plasma 5 working. not sure if there is any way to fix that. sorry if this has already been seen before15:06
seaLnei guess its a failure on lightdm's part15:07
seaLne"well i did what you told me to and run stuff that isn't installed anymore"15:08
RiddellseaLne: mm that's interesting, I havn't thought about that but it probably is a problem15:11
RiddellseaLne: reported bug 138209615:12
ubottubug 1382096 in Kubuntu PPA "on upgrade old plasma xsession file still default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138209615:12
seaLnethanks, i wasn't too sure what too blaim :-)15:15
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seaLneif lightdm had complained that it couldn't run plasma 4 or some related error that would have been a lot more obvious what the problem was15:18
seaLnebut i guess this is all down to legacy X workings15:20
Riddellhmm shouldn't be, it should check if the binary is there15:23
RiddellI'm about to test a plasma 4 -> 5 upgrade, will look out for it15:23
seaLnethat was on a few weeks old fresh install of utopic15:27
seaLnewith clean  ~15:28
RiddellseaLne: just did a new install of plasma4 image then installed plasma5 and it all worked great15:33
Riddellmaybe I should have logged out of plasma 4 before installing plasma5, I didn't see it saving the xsession anywhere15:34
Riddellyeah I had no ~/.dmrc so maybe it didn't have that issue15:34
Riddelland sddm not working at all15:38
Riddellcome back d_ed, sddm needs your love!15:39
RiddellseaLne: how did you reboot/log out after installing plasma 5?15:39
d_edwhat's up with SDDM?15:40
Riddelld_ed: meh doesn't work if you have a plasma 4 kubuntu install and install plasma 5, and sddm.log still not wanting to show much15:41
d_edexpand on "doesn't work"15:41
d_edif you change the theme in the config to "Maui" does it work?15:41
Riddellit's running according to ps -ef but nothing is on screen15:41
d_edwhat's running15:45
d_edsddm or sddm-greeter?15:45
seaLneRiddell: after installing 5 shutdown/logout wouldn't work so did sudo reboot15:47
Riddelld_ed: sddm, X and sddm_helper15:47
RiddellseaLne: yeah, that'll be another bug we'll want to fix before 15.0415:47
Riddellor I guess the normal release upgrade tool will offer a reboot for us there15:48
seaLneshould it have switched to sddm? i thought i had seen that being installed but never got any select a login manager choice and i still have lightdm15:51
Riddelld_ed: setting sddm.conf makes no difference, still blank screen15:52
Riddell[General]15:52
RiddellCurrentTheme=maui15:52
RiddellseaLne: yes that was puzzling me too why it was missing but since sddm is broken on installing plasma5 I guess it's for the best for now15:52
seaLneoh well :)15:54
d_edso this is the standard ISO then enabling the PPA to plasma 5 stuff?15:54
Riddelld_ed: yep15:54
Riddelld_ed: using plasma5 iso and sddm works fine, at least it did last week maybe I should verify that15:55
Riddellnothing unusual in sddm.log http://paste.kde.org/pgrhrz1qc15:55
Riddellqt4 and 5 correctly set to breeze theme, gtk 2 and 3 both set to oxygen15:56
Riddellwhich is better than being set to nothing which is what happens if you install plasma5 directly15:56
d_edthere's no crazy path changing scripts in the plasma 5 iso?15:58
Riddelld_ed: path of what?15:58
d_edanythign.15:59
d_edit's weird that code works in once place, but not another.15:59
d_edyou're using the same version of SDDM in both ISOs?15:59
Riddellonly plasma5 iso has sddm on it15:59
Riddellnormal plasma4 iso has lightdm then sddm gets installed if you install plasma5 from ppa16:00
shadeslayerRiddell: might want to update sddm from debian git btw16:00
shadeslayerit has a few PAM fixes16:00
d_edand SDDM is in this plasma5 PPA?16:00
Riddelld_ed: yes16:00
Riddellshadeslayer: ack16:01
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d_edshadeslayer: yes please16:04
shadeslayerd_ed: huh?16:06
shadeslayerd_ed: and fix your bouncer :p16:07
bshahyeah.. kde bouncer is crazy today...16:08
sgclarkoh I thought it was me heh16:09
Riddellwhat is "gateway/shell/kde" ?16:11
bshahRiddell: kde bouncer...16:11
bshahRiddell: https://community.kde.org/Sysadmin/BNC16:12
Riddellthanks16:12
Sick_Rimmit_TestRiddell: Hi is this you https://plus.google.com/u/0/101611126337846769384/about16:15
Riddellum, no16:16
Riddellhow strange16:16
RiddellSick_Rimmit_Test: https://plus.google.com/+JonathanRiddell/posts is me16:16
Sick_Rimmit_TestGreat.. glad I checked16:17
d_edshadeslayer: what's wrong with my bouncer?16:26
shadeslayertimeouts16:26
shadeslayertimeouts everywhere16:27
d_edmy plane is delayed by an hour :(16:27
bshah:D16:27
d_edbshah: you are not meant to be happy at my misfortune.16:27
* d_ed adds bshah to his hit list.16:27
* sgclark giggles16:28
d_edyou too16:28
d_eddepending on who you were giggling at16:28
sgclarklol16:28
* yofel passes d_ed a cup of coffee16:29
d_edthanks. I got myself a "Caramel Mochiatto" 16:29
d_edI don't think it's even a word16:29
d_edit doesn't sound like one.16:29
sgclarkmmm16:29
yofelfirst time I hear of a mochiatto..16:30
d_edand it was one of those coffee places where you can't just say medium like a normal person, you have to say "grande"16:30
d_edwhich as soon as you open your mouth makes you fear that you come accross as a completely pretentious prick even though that's what it says on the sign16:30
sgclarklol16:30
d_edso you panic, and try and say "medium" at the same time16:30
d_edthen just collapse on the counter in a pool of sweat.16:30
sgclarktruth16:30
yofel:D16:31
Riddellthis is why I don't buy coffee16:35
Riddellsddm working good on plasma5 image16:36
* genii makes another pot of utility coffee16:36
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RiddellSick_Rimmit: is the podcast available live to watch or something later? video or audio?19:44
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Sure, all and both..19:44
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Audio from website, or rss. Video on our YouTube Channel19:44
* sgclark crumbles under pressure19:44
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: relax we've only got 4 followers :-)19:45
Sick_RimmitOh and I am really nice, it's not going to Paxman, it will be really fun19:45
sgclark:)19:46
Sick_RimmitWe even have show guest beer19:46
Sick_Rimmitit's bring your own, and tell us about it19:46
sgclarknice :) will be to early to drink here, but will have one in spirit19:47
Sick_RimmitWe're just going chat about the release, about getting involved in Kubuntu, and wrap it up with telling others how they can find us, join in and get involved19:48
Sick_RimmitJohn, and Jackson are both cool guys.. 19:48
Sick_RimmitHere you go 19:50
Sick_Rimmithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKzknavDD9M19:50
sgclarkcool, I am a bit umm shy, but I have met Riddell at akademy so I won't feel so scared lol19:50
Sick_RimmitJump in say 20 minutes, and watch a couple of minutes you'll see its all good19:50
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: it's all good :-)19:51
RiddellSick_Rimmit: I think having some questions sent to us in advance would be good19:51
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Yes, we have some notes and I will ensure that you get a share of them19:52
sgclarkyes! please :)19:52
sgclarksheesh alot of bugs coming in, did I miss testing that is being done today?19:54
soeehiho20:06
sgclarkhiyas20:06
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