[02:08] <sahil> hi, i am having problem in connecting to this IRC through quassel IRC.
[02:08] <sahil> Help me please
[04:47] <apachelogger> apoi: export QT_SELECT=5
[04:47] <apachelogger> ah wrong one, sorry ^^
[06:40] <apachelogger> oh, one week to final it is already
[06:40] <apachelogger> such magic
[06:44] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:46] <valorie> I thought Riddell said earlier that there would be no RC?
[06:48] <valorie> also apachelogger, I got a neato quote from the sunday paper for you, from Terry Pratchett: Opera happens when a large number of things amazingly fail to go wrong
[06:49] <apachelogger> indeed
[06:50] <apachelogger> as for RC, dunno, maybe it got canceled ^^
[06:50] <apachelogger> would be peculiar though
[06:50] <valorie> Seattle Opera has a new director
[06:59] <Tm_T> release without RC sounds, err, risky?
[06:59] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[07:00] <valorie> the release after an LTS is always a bit chancy, right?
[07:02] <apachelogger> yeah
[07:06] <Tm_T> don't forget that our release would ofcourse be perfect anyway (:
[07:12] <lordievader> That's a given, indeed ;)
[07:19] <apachelogger> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/systemsettings-data_4%3a5.0.2+git20140920.1008.0_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[07:19] <apachelogger>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/systemsettings/systemsettings.kcfg', which is also in package systemsettings 4:5.1.0.1+git20141015.0514-0ubuntu0
[07:19] <apachelogger> I am going to throw myself of a cliff
[07:20] <apachelogger> why is that stuck at 5.0.2 anyway
[07:20]  * apachelogger squints
[07:21] <apachelogger> ah, I ripped it out
[07:22]  * valorie straps wings onto apachelogger
[07:23]  * bshah imagines apachelogger with his magic hat and wings..
[07:24] <apachelogger> fairy wizard™
[07:25] <valorie> and the hat
[07:25] <valorie> gotta have the wizard hat
[08:02] <apachelogger> oh btw
[08:02] <apachelogger> am I the only one with klipper problems?
[08:02] <apachelogger> doesn't work half th etime
[08:03] <valorie> I had problems too, but I couldn't pin it down enough to file a bug
[08:12] <Tm_T> apachelogger: haven't had any issues
[10:48] <sgclark> morning
[12:08] <Riddell> hi sgclark 
[12:08] <sgclark> hiyas
[12:29] <tazz> tried upgrading a fresh install from kubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso to 14.10, failed with the following errors ==> http://pastebin.com/Etggx6Pi
[12:36] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[12:36] <sgclark> hiyas
[12:37] <BluesKaj_> what's up today, sgclark ?
[12:39] <sgclark> not much here
[12:43] <BluesKaj_> ok, think there might be a bug in cups with a network printer connected to a router via usb. The printer seems to be recognized, but is always "in use" when trying to print.
[12:45] <apachelogger> ubuntu-bug cups
[12:48] <BluesKaj_> ok apachelogger , collecting info now, thanks
[13:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apachelogger kdeconnect upstream author wants a new kdeconnect version in 
[13:25] <shadeslayer> but it has new features and stuff
[13:25] <shadeslayer> reckon we can put it in backports?
[13:25] <shadeslayer> or just upload to utopic
[13:31] <soee> shadeslayer: does it work woth Plasma5 systray ?
[13:31] <soee> *with
[13:33] <shadeslayer> not that I know of
[13:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: FFe it?
[14:03]  * Sick_Rimmit_Test ooo testing testing testing tum tee tum tum ...
[14:27] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit_Test: what ye testing?
[14:27] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Riddell: Oooo secret apt repo... stuff
[14:28] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Riddell: Working really well so far, 2 days using in anger as my desktop at work, looks good. I've had no problems sofar
[14:29] <Riddell> great
[14:31] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Riddell: I'll keep runing it tomorrow, but to be fair I think the build is good. Where you planning to release in 14.10
[14:32] <Riddell> no too late for 4.14.2, it'll just be in kubuntu-ppa updates and then we'll SRU it
[14:32] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Riddell: OK, that's fine
[14:33] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> While I think of it fine folks in kubuntu-devel
[14:34] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> I put a tech podcast together atrandom.org.uk
[14:34] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> I would like to get a Kubutnu developer on as a guest to talk about becoming a kubuntu developer
[14:34] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> ping me if you would be up for doing this
[14:35]  * Riddell nudges sgclark in the direction of Sick_Rimmit_Test 
[14:44] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> sgclark: Hi Scarlet, would you be interesting in doing a Google Hangout wit me
[14:47] <sgclark> umm I am not a developer yet
[14:47] <Riddell> yes you are!
[14:47] <Riddell> we can do it together if you like
[14:48] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> take a look at atrandom.org.uk
[14:48] <sgclark> when is this? I am going out of town this weekend
[14:48] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> I do this with John, and Jackson.. both nice guys
[14:48] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> plus I can also pick your brains to help me get my skills in place too
[14:48] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Oh we can arrange it to suit.
[14:48] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Can be in November if you like
[14:49] <sgclark> Ok I am game if Riddell is
[14:49] <Riddell> awooga
[14:50] <sgclark> anytime but this Saturday -  Monday
[14:50] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Awesome
[14:50] <sgclark> I otherwise have no life really haha
[14:50] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Do you guys have G+ accounts ?
[14:50] <Riddell> yes
[14:51] <sgclark> yeah
[14:51] <Riddell> how about friday after the release?
[14:51] <Riddell> a week tomorrow
[14:51] <sgclark> what time is the most important, so I can not be in my jammies haha
[14:51] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Oo.. How about a week today, at which is our next show
[14:52] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> It's at 9.30pm UK Time
[14:52] <Riddell> that should be ok, release should be done by then
[14:53] <sgclark> ahh yeah that is afternoon for me, I am safe
[14:53] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> OK Grrrrrreat!!
[14:53] <Riddell> Mamarok: what is "gateway/shell/kde"?
[14:56] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Are Riddell and sgclark on Google+, if so can you ping me your G+ names.
[14:56] <Riddell> jonathan riddell
[14:58] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> OK Cool so I am Rick Timmis will add you to my circles
[15:02] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit_Test: https://plus.google.com/+ScarlettClark
[15:03] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Superb, will add you both and then send you invites to the show
[15:03] <sgclark> ok
[15:03] <sgclark> suppose I outta update my profile someday
[15:06] <seaLne> some thing i noticed when trying plasma 5 was that after installing it and rebooting lightdm was trying to use last session which just left you with just the 4.14 or lightdm background after logging in which resulted in it appearing to me that 5 didn't work at all which was disapointing and may have put others off. rather than when i changed manually to a plasma session from the login i got lots of
[15:06] <seaLne> nice shiny plasma 5 working. not sure if there is any way to fix that. sorry if this has already been seen before
[15:07] <seaLne> i guess its a failure on lightdm's part
[15:08] <seaLne> "well i did what you told me to and run stuff that isn't installed anymore"
[15:11] <Riddell> seaLne: mm that's interesting, I havn't thought about that but it probably is a problem
[15:12] <Riddell> seaLne: reported bug 1382096
[15:15] <seaLne> thanks, i wasn't too sure what too blaim :-)
[15:18] <seaLne> if lightdm had complained that it couldn't run plasma 4 or some related error that would have been a lot more obvious what the problem was
[15:20] <seaLne> but i guess this is all down to legacy X workings
[15:23] <Riddell> hmm shouldn't be, it should check if the binary is there
[15:23] <Riddell> I'm about to test a plasma 4 -> 5 upgrade, will look out for it
[15:27] <seaLne> that was on a few weeks old fresh install of utopic
[15:28] <seaLne> with clean  ~
[15:33] <Riddell> seaLne: just did a new install of plasma4 image then installed plasma5 and it all worked great
[15:34] <Riddell> maybe I should have logged out of plasma 4 before installing plasma5, I didn't see it saving the xsession anywhere
[15:34] <Riddell> yeah I had no ~/.dmrc so maybe it didn't have that issue
[15:38] <Riddell> and sddm not working at all
[15:39] <Riddell> come back d_ed, sddm needs your love!
[15:39] <Riddell> seaLne: how did you reboot/log out after installing plasma 5?
[15:40] <d_ed> what's up with SDDM?
[15:41] <Riddell> d_ed: meh doesn't work if you have a plasma 4 kubuntu install and install plasma 5, and sddm.log still not wanting to show much
[15:41] <d_ed> expand on "doesn't work"
[15:41] <d_ed> if you change the theme in the config to "Maui" does it work?
[15:41] <Riddell> it's running according to ps -ef but nothing is on screen
[15:45] <d_ed> what's running
[15:45] <d_ed> sddm or sddm-greeter?
[15:47] <seaLne> Riddell: after installing 5 shutdown/logout wouldn't work so did sudo reboot
[15:47] <Riddell> d_ed: sddm, X and sddm_helper
[15:47] <Riddell> seaLne: yeah, that'll be another bug we'll want to fix before 15.04
[15:48] <Riddell> or I guess the normal release upgrade tool will offer a reboot for us there
[15:51] <seaLne> should it have switched to sddm? i thought i had seen that being installed but never got any select a login manager choice and i still have lightdm
[15:52] <Riddell> d_ed: setting sddm.conf makes no difference, still blank screen
[15:52] <Riddell> [General]
[15:52] <Riddell> CurrentTheme=maui
[15:52] <Riddell> seaLne: yes that was puzzling me too why it was missing but since sddm is broken on installing plasma5 I guess it's for the best for now
[15:54] <seaLne> oh well :)
[15:54] <d_ed> so this is the standard ISO then enabling the PPA to plasma 5 stuff?
[15:54] <Riddell> d_ed: yep
[15:55] <Riddell> d_ed: using plasma5 iso and sddm works fine, at least it did last week maybe I should verify that
[15:55] <Riddell> nothing unusual in sddm.log http://paste.kde.org/pgrhrz1qc
[15:56] <Riddell> qt4 and 5 correctly set to breeze theme, gtk 2 and 3 both set to oxygen
[15:56] <Riddell> which is better than being set to nothing which is what happens if you install plasma5 directly
[15:58] <d_ed> there's no crazy path changing scripts in the plasma 5 iso?
[15:58] <Riddell> d_ed: path of what?
[15:59] <d_ed> anythign.
[15:59] <d_ed> it's weird that code works in once place, but not another.
[15:59] <d_ed> you're using the same version of SDDM in both ISOs?
[15:59] <Riddell> only plasma5 iso has sddm on it
[16:00] <Riddell> normal plasma4 iso has lightdm then sddm gets installed if you install plasma5 from ppa
[16:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: might want to update sddm from debian git btw
[16:00] <shadeslayer> it has a few PAM fixes
[16:00] <d_ed> and SDDM is in this plasma5 PPA?
[16:00] <Riddell> d_ed: yes
[16:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ack
[16:04] <d_ed> shadeslayer: yes please
[16:06] <shadeslayer> d_ed: huh?
[16:07] <shadeslayer> d_ed: and fix your bouncer :p
[16:08] <bshah> yeah.. kde bouncer is crazy today...
[16:09] <sgclark> oh I thought it was me heh
[16:11] <Riddell> what is "gateway/shell/kde" ?
[16:11] <bshah> Riddell: kde bouncer...
[16:12] <bshah> Riddell: https://community.kde.org/Sysadmin/BNC
[16:12] <Riddell> thanks
[16:15] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Riddell: Hi is this you https://plus.google.com/u/0/101611126337846769384/about
[16:16] <Riddell> um, no
[16:16] <Riddell> how strange
[16:16] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit_Test: https://plus.google.com/+JonathanRiddell/posts is me
[16:17] <Sick_Rimmit_Test> Great.. glad I checked
[16:26] <d_ed> shadeslayer: what's wrong with my bouncer?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> timeouts
[16:27] <shadeslayer> timeouts everywhere
[16:27] <d_ed> my plane is delayed by an hour :(
[16:27] <bshah> :D
[16:27] <d_ed> bshah: you are not meant to be happy at my misfortune.
[16:27]  * d_ed adds bshah to his hit list.
[16:28]  * sgclark giggles
[16:28] <d_ed> you too
[16:28] <d_ed> depending on who you were giggling at
[16:28] <sgclark> lol
[16:29]  * yofel passes d_ed a cup of coffee
[16:29] <d_ed> thanks. I got myself a "Caramel Mochiatto" 
[16:29] <d_ed> I don't think it's even a word
[16:29] <d_ed> it doesn't sound like one.
[16:29] <sgclark> mmm
[16:30] <yofel> first time I hear of a mochiatto..
[16:30] <d_ed> and it was one of those coffee places where you can't just say medium like a normal person, you have to say "grande"
[16:30] <d_ed> which as soon as you open your mouth makes you fear that you come accross as a completely pretentious prick even though that's what it says on the sign
[16:30] <sgclark> lol
[16:30] <d_ed> so you panic, and try and say "medium" at the same time
[16:30] <d_ed> then just collapse on the counter in a pool of sweat.
[16:30] <sgclark> truth
[16:31] <yofel> :D
[16:35] <Riddell> this is why I don't buy coffee
[16:36] <Riddell> sddm working good on plasma5 image
[16:36]  * genii makes another pot of utility coffee
[19:44] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: is the podcast available live to watch or something later? video or audio?
[19:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Sure, all and both..
[19:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Audio from website, or rss. Video on our YouTube Channel
[19:44]  * sgclark crumbles under pressure
[19:45] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: relax we've only got 4 followers :-)
[19:45] <Sick_Rimmit> Oh and I am really nice, it's not going to Paxman, it will be really fun
[19:46] <sgclark> :)
[19:46] <Sick_Rimmit> We even have show guest beer
[19:46] <Sick_Rimmit> it's bring your own, and tell us about it
[19:47] <sgclark> nice :) will be to early to drink here, but will have one in spirit
[19:48] <Sick_Rimmit> We're just going chat about the release, about getting involved in Kubuntu, and wrap it up with telling others how they can find us, join in and get involved
[19:48] <Sick_Rimmit> John, and Jackson are both cool guys.. 
[19:50] <Sick_Rimmit> Here you go 
[19:50] <Sick_Rimmit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKzknavDD9M
[19:50] <sgclark> cool, I am a bit umm shy, but I have met Riddell at akademy so I won't feel so scared lol
[19:50] <Sick_Rimmit> Jump in say 20 minutes, and watch a couple of minutes you'll see its all good
[19:51] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: it's all good :-)
[19:51] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: I think having some questions sent to us in advance would be good
[19:52] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Yes, we have some notes and I will ensure that you get a share of them
[19:52] <sgclark> yes! please :)
[19:54] <sgclark> sheesh alot of bugs coming in, did I miss testing that is being done today?
[20:06] <soee> hiho
[20:06] <sgclark> hiyas
[20:41]  * Sick_Rimmit returns from collecting Rhiannon from 
[20:41]  * Sick_Rimmit guides