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ogra_hah00:00
davmor2but sometimes even :)00:00
ogra_cjwatson, apps start fine for me on 28800:00
davmor2ogra_: I like the new indicators I like how it swipes down very swish00:00
ogra_why doest my mako on 288 have new indicators ?00:01
ogra_that still hase the old headers here00:01
cjwatsonogra_: thanks for the confirmation00:01
ogra_oooh00:02
ogra_that horrible dots from the launcher are gone00:02
ogra_wow, this is the first time utopic fells like it is behind00:02
davmor2ogra_: why do you think I was hugging Saviq earlier00:02
ogra_haha00:02
ogra_that was a well deserved hug00:02
davmor2ogra_: indeed no ugly dots00:03
ogra_and the icons fold again00:03
ogra_hmm00:03
* rsalveti back from dinner00:04
sil2100cjwatson, ogra_: so we should be safe with the new custom tarball and rootfs then, right?00:04
sil2100On krillin that is00:04
ogra_sil2100, well, no idea ... i know we are safe on utopic 28800:04
* sil2100 notes down that we need to sync up utopic later00:04
sil2100ogra_: if it works on utopic, I would say it should be the same on 14.0900:05
ogra_yeah, but proof is better at this point in time i guess :)00:05
rsalvetigreat, new image is out00:05
ogra_heh, scrolling through my music still gives the thumbnailer some grief00:07
cjwatsonsil2100: I believe so00:08
davmor2cwayne: oi mr what the hell00:12
cwayne_davmor2, ?00:13
* cyphermox back from dinner, if I can help with anything00:13
sil2100davmor2: ?00:15
sil2100cyphermox: o/00:15
davmor2sil2100: there is a tiny bit more than expected in the new tarball ;)00:17
sil2100davmor2: in a good way or bad way?00:18
cwayne_I totally told you guys there were some new scopes!00:18
davmor2cwayne: some I'm gonna hurt you yet ;)00:18
cwayne_davmor2, :P if it helps, just test the dashboard aggregator, that's where all the new ones are aggregated00:19
cwayne_we just added scopes that go into dashboard and dashboard itself, so if dashboard works, then they all work00:19
ogra_bah00:29
ogra_i thought the dash restarting was fixed00:29
ogra_why do i still see it here ?00:29
sil2100It should have been long ago00:29
ogra_well, when starting 20 apps here it still gets respawned00:30
ogra_i actually thought that was in Saviq's big silo00:30
ogra_(was that 23 ?)00:30
ogra_boing ... again00:31
rsalvetiI think that only landed in utopic00:34
rsalvetinot sure yet if that piece went to rtm00:34
sil2100Wasn't that in the big silo 6 for ubuntu-rtm?00:35
sil2100davmor2: any ETA on the custom tarball? :)00:36
* cwayne just verified ringtones work00:37
ChickenCutlasscwayne: what is that ringtone.  Yani00:40
cwayneha, stuff from the customer :)00:41
bregmais it possiblt to sync my desktop-only landings to utopic still?  Ubuntu final freeze is tomorrow and I have a couple critical fixes waiting to be published (silos 28 and 29)00:41
sil2100bregma: hey! What do you mean by sync?00:41
bregmaI mean publish, that was a mind slip00:41
sil2100bregma: sure, basically desktop-only sounds a good thing for publishing00:42
sil2100The big stop of landings is mostly for touch00:42
bregmaI understand, these are definitely touch-free landings00:42
sil2100bregma: so, are those nux and unity from silos 28 and 29?00:44
bregmasil2100, yes00:44
davmor2oh cwayne come here so I can hit you ;)  bug number one with the new code.  Add a task, schedule it for today, tick it so it is completed, is it removed from the dashboard, is it boat ;)00:45
sil2100bregma: ok, just to make sure - since I remember we're using some small parts of unity7 in our touch images00:46
sil2100I think that was the -schemas package?00:46
cjwatsonsil2100: OK, I'm off to bed because dear God look at the time.  slangasek should be back in a bit should there be any snags with livecd-rootfs00:47
sil2100cjwatson: ok :)00:47
sil2100cjwatson: I'll wait for slangasek here just in case - goodnight and thanks again for everything!00:47
slangasekhi00:48
sil2100Yaay, he's back!00:48
slangasekjust sat down at the keyboard a minute ago; getting through scrollback now00:48
sil2100bregma: so... just want to make sure the shared package with touch didn't get changed00:48
cjwatsonslangasek: summarised briefly for you in /msg00:48
slangasekok00:48
bregmasil2100, the unity -schemas package would have to be manually synched, but there aren't any schema changes so no need00:48
ogra_sil2100, hmm, so i thought the dash one was a promotion blocker00:49
sil2100bregma: ok, sounds good00:49
davmor2sil2100: cwayne: okay so I have run through everything I don't like the new ringtones but they might grow on me,  then there is  that minor niggle with the tasks other than that the tarball looks good00:49
ogra_sil2100, it clearly didnt land in rtm yet00:49
* ogra_ just dug through the qtmir changes00:49
cwaynedavmor2: hm, when I refresh the scope it's gone00:49
cwayneand if it's done it should be gone00:50
sil2100ogra_: hmmm, you checked that? I was almost sure we had a landing for that00:50
sil2100But maybe that was utopic only indeed?00:50
davmor2cwayne: it's gone in the app but not in the scope00:50
ogra_sil2100, it was fixed in qtmir 0.4.400:50
ogra_sil2100, which is not in rtm yet00:50
sil2100Crap00:50
davmor2cwayne: let me refresh the scope again00:50
cwaynedavmor2: even after a pull-to-refresh?00:50
ogra_we landed 0.4.3 today00:50
cwayneit's gone in mine00:50
slangasekand I see 288 has been tested already, good; also installing it here atm00:50
sil2100ogra_: anyway, too lat for that now - let's see if QA find it as a blocker too ;/00:50
sil2100Anyway, it seems there's a +1 on the tarball00:51
ogra_sil2100, well, it makes using more than ten apps a pretty awful experience00:51
davmor2cwayne: ah and now it has gone, maybe the backend scope only checks every so often00:51
ogra_the dash restarts every few mins and steals the focus (which means a black screen saying "scopes")00:51
cwaynedavmor2: :) yeah, I don't know how often it updates itself, i'm a big fan of pull-to-refresh though :P00:52
davmor2cwayne: that was about the 3rd time I had00:52
cwaynesil2100: davmor2: so I'm good to press the magic button?00:52
sil2100ogra_: hm, you think we should do a quick sync of that?00:52
ogra_sil2100, i have no idea what a quick sync means in terms of stability and other bugs ... in any case that thing is on our promotion blocker list since a while00:53
ogra_sil2100, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/qtmir/0.4.4+14.10.20141013-0ubuntu1 ...00:54
ogra_that has more than just the one fix00:54
sil2100Yeah, so what we could do is cherry-picking this fix, preparing a landing for qtmir-14.09, getting it tested and trying pushing it into this image...00:54
slangasekogra_, sil2100: ok - someone explain to me why I should not expedite things by kicking off the next ubuntu-rtm build immediately00:54
sil2100slangasek: we're still discussing one issue that doesn't seem to have been fixed yet ;/00:55
sil2100https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/qtmir/dash-killed-less-likely/+merge/23791500:55
slangaseksil2100: there will always be more issues.  It takes < 2h to rebuild; do you expect investigation of this new issue to have any real chance of taking < 2h?00:55
ogra_slangasek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1379296 ... is longstanding on our blocker list and very user visible (as soon as you have some memory pressure the dash gets into the app lifecycle mgmt)00:55
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,Fix released]00:55
slangasekright, my concern here isn't that we have all the bugs fixed00:56
slangasekmy concern is that we're serializing things that ought not be serialized under time pressure00:56
sil2100ogra_: so the change seems fairly simple, but I don't feel confident we have enough upstream people for that to get properly tested00:56
sil2100ogra_: so let's leave it for an OTA update00:56
cjwatsonqtmir takes 22 minutes to build00:56
cjwatsonon armhf00:56
cjwatsonthat's a fair bit of time in an already very tight schedule00:56
ogra_sil2100, well, your call00:56
sil2100cwayne: I guess you can publish your custom tarball, and I think slangasek can build a new image00:57
slangasekah, the custom tarball isn't published yet?00:57
cwayne\o/00:57
ogra_slangasek, so if sil doesnt want to block on it (and QA is fine with that too (it was their call to not promote with that bug)) then just go and build00:57
slangasekI thought that was to be published at the same time as the apparmor landing, but ok00:57
slangasekogra_: I'm not talking about promotions here at all00:57
sil2100slangasek: no, we just tested it00:58
ogra_slangasek, turn off the import images cronjob00:58
slangasekI'm talking about keeping our build pipe full00:58
slangasekok00:58
ogra_slangasek, then you can have one image for rootfs and tarball00:58
ogra_and dont need to wait for an import run00:58
slangasekok00:58
ogra_cwayne, needs to publish while the rootfs is buuilding indeed00:58
cwayneuh, i jsut did it00:59
ogra_well, then it doesnt matter i guess00:59
ogra_slangasek, but the plan was to have this image promoteable :)01:00
cjwatsonlooks like import-images was commented in time :)01:01
ogra_cool01:01
cjwatsonso we shouldn't get a spurious extra image01:01
slangasekogra_: that is not a reason to leave the build pipeline empty if the actual promotable image is > 1.5h out01:01
ogra_true indeed01:01
slangasekcwayne: so that means you've published your new tarball to the "gated" url, correct?01:01
cwayneslangasek: yes01:01
slangasekok01:01
slangasekkicking off a build01:01
cjwatsonoh, possibly we just did01:01
cjwatsonI see image 108 in there01:01
davmor2Guys I'm off see you at the sprint,  ogra_ sil2100 slangasek if you can ping ToyKeeper and elopio when the final image is up that would be awesom I'm off to bed night01:02
slangasekok01:02
slangasekdavmor2: thanks01:02
cjwatsonso probably no point people spending time testing 108 FWIW01:02
sil2100davmor2: thanks for all your work today!01:02
sil2100See you next week!01:02
ogra_yeah, that was an awesome effort davmor201:02
cjwatsonthat's just 107 plus the new custom tarball01:02
slangasekoh? so the import ran already?01:02
cjwatsonyeah you were slightly too slow01:03
cjwatsonbut no worries01:03
slangasekok01:03
cjwatsonslangasek: note that (aiui) iso.qa doesn't work for starting 14.09 builds01:03
ogra_its just numbers :)01:03
slangasekcjwatson: no problem, I'm old skool anyway ;-)01:03
cjwatsonok :)01:03
cjwatsonah, I see it running now01:03
* cwayne needs to take a bit of a break, will be around in a little bit if anyone needs me01:03
=== cwayne is now known as cwayne-afk
cjwatsonright, really off to bed01:04
cjwatsonnight01:04
sil2100cjwatson: goodnight :)01:07
slangasekogra_, sil2100, cwayne, ToyKeeper, elopio: so 108 on krillin -proposed is not expected to matter for testing.  109 should be upcoming and will be the version with the updated custom tarball split; it will be available in ~1.5h but is not considered promotable due to known bug #137929601:07
ubot5bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137929601:07
sil2100slangasek: yes :)01:07
slangasekcjwatson: night, and thanks01:07
slangasekok01:08
slangaseknow what's the plan for getting bug #1379296 taken care of?01:08
sil2100slangasek: we know, at least that was our original vision, since 107 was the one without custom, 108 with custom and 109 with custom + the rootfs01:08
ogra_slangasek, see the bot ;)01:08
slangaseksil2100: I'm repeating it to make sure everyone involved is on the same page01:08
slangasekok01:08
ogra_silo 012 has the fix01:08
slangaseksil2100: are you driving this silo?  the train claims you+Saviq, but I don't see Saviq_ speaking up in scrollback :)01:09
sil2100Yep, just filled that in01:09
ogra_slangasek, prob is that all upstreams are asleep now ...01:09
sil2100slangasek: it's his change so I'll ping him to help out01:09
imgbot=== trainguards: RTM IMAGE 109 building (started: 20141016 01:10) ===01:09
ogra_yay01:09
sil2100As I'm only the cherry-picking guy, would like him to double check all is ok before we publish01:10
slangaseksil2100: yeah, but unlike wherever you are, it's the middle of night for Saviq_ so he might not respond ;-)01:10
sil2100pffff01:10
ogra_unlike01:10
ogra_haha01:10
sil2100We're in the same TZ so he should be here!01:10
slangasekheh01:10
ogra_yeah, slacker01:10
slangasekso, what's actually realistic here?01:10
slangasekI don't think you're going to get Saviq_ back at 3am01:10
sil2100Well, I think silo 12 might only be ready for tomorrow, so it won't be in the promoted image anyway, but we might get it in the next one01:11
slangasekor 4am01:11
ogra_we can prepare the silo up to the point where QA signs off01:11
ogra_3am is right01:11
sil2100I wouldn't push it forcefully now, but I can get it built and pre-tested so that it's ready for morning01:11
slangasekis it ok to promote this image with bug #1379296 present?  Who should make that call, olli_?01:11
ogra_and have Saviq nod it off tomorrow morning01:11
ubot5bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137929601:11
sil2100slangasek: I usually leave it up to QA to decide, since they will do promotion testing01:11
ogra_slangasek, promotion is perhaps fine but i dont thinnk we want to gic it to manufacturer in that state01:12
slangasekand if we're saying silo 12 won't land until morning, and the promotion needs to happen before then, we should surely let QA know to test image 10901:12
sil2100It's a serious issue, but for instance Selene missed it out when doing the pre-promotion testing on 10501:12
ogra_*give01:12
slangaseksil2100: I think this is a product manager call, not a QA call01:12
sil2100slangasek: well, that's the plan - QA will test 10901:12
ToyKeeperslangasek: So...  109 won't be promote-able?  Are we going to wait for 110, or send 109 anyway?01:12
ogra_slangasek, they should test image 109 for sure ...01:12
sil2100ToyKeeper: I would say we test 109 for promotion01:13
ogra_and test the silo on top as well01:13
sil2100But yeah, would be best to have olli_'s decision01:13
slangasekToyKeeper: well, this is what I asserted earlier, but now I understand that 110 won't kick off until the morning UTC01:13
slangasekso there's a call to be made about whether to release to the OEM with this bug outstanding01:13
sil2100slangasek: from what olli_ mentioned, we're already REALLY tight in our deadline, so waiting for 110 might be a bit impossiblish01:13
ogra_will the manufacturer get the same OTAs ?01:14
ogra_or wont they01:14
slangasekogra_: olli_ clarified that this is an image we're giving to the OEM now, but it's not the final image going to factory01:14
ogra_if we can puch a direct OTA (promote a new one right after with only this fix) that could be doable too01:14
ogra_slangasek, i know that :)01:15
slangasekok, so I didn't understand the question ;)01:15
ogra_slangasek, the question is if they test as is or allow OTAs to happen01:15
slangasekif they're getting this image, of course they get the same OTA as everyone else ;)01:15
slangasekright, well, I don't think we control that01:15
sil2100Let's not get carried away here on this channel guys ;)01:16
ogra_heh01:16
ogra_yeah01:16
ToyKeeperNot really my call, I'll just test 109 and send the results.  Someone else can decide if it's promote-able even with known bugs.01:16
sil2100ToyKeeper: could you ask elopio for help? It might take less time then01:17
slangasekToyKeeper: ok.  In that case, eta for 109 availability remains ~1.5h :-)01:17
slangasekthanks01:17
sil2100From what I know jfunk mentioned elopio can help out as well01:17
slangasekafk for dinner now for a bit; reachable by phone/text if you need me01:17
sil2100slangasek: ACK :)01:17
ogra_slangasek, i might go to bed as well then01:17
ogra_slangasek, in case you need to promote01:18
sil2100I might be dropping off soon as well01:18
slangasekogra_: probably a good idea :)01:18
slangasekogra_, sil2100: thanks to both of you01:18
ogra_slangasek, rtm-promo.log in my home in nusakan has the promotion commands i used for former images01:18
slangasekogra_: yep, got it01:18
ogra_should be easy to deduct from that01:18
ogra_(as cdimage indeed)01:18
ToyKeepersil2100: Yes, elopio is planning to help...  but since we have a while before the image is ready he's doing something else for a while.01:19
ogra_ToyKeeper, getting silo 012 signed off on top of 109 would be good as well01:20
ogra_so that we can potentially land it as hotfix in case time permits01:20
sil2100Not sure if there will be time for that now though01:21
ogra_indeed01:21
ogra_anyway, i'm off as well01:22
ogra_see you tomorrow01:22
ogra_sil2100, i assume we have a normal meeting ?01:22
sil2100ogra_: I guess, if I wake up on time ;)01:24
ogra_heh01:24
sil2100Anyway, I'll see how much strength I have, I'll try to test te silo once it builds01:24
sil2100But anyway I'll send out an e-mail to Saviq_ to pick it up from the morning01:24
sil2100(since it'll be built already)01:24
sil2100For now I go clean up some silos01:24
sil2100ogra_, slangasek: I sent an e-mail to Saviq_, so he should be able to pick it up from the very morning01:35
sil2100I think 3:30 am is the perfect time for sleep01:35
sil2100Goodnight everyone!01:35
sil2100o/01:36
robruGood god y'all01:48
jhodapprobru, what's going on with my build? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-016-1-build/36/console01:56
robruHm01:58
pmcgowanjhodapp, just a guess but 2014-10-16 01:55:32,398 WARNING A version (0.7.1+14.10.20141015.1~rtm-0ubuntu1) is available at the destination archive for that component but is not in the destination branch which is still at 0.7.1+14.10.20140926-0ubuntu1. You need to ensure that your version contains the fix in the destination or you can force rebuild to bypass the check.alues (0 6)01:58
jhodapppmcgowan, yeah rsalveti is trying that last route01:59
jhodapppmcgowan, thanks!01:59
rsalvetimaybe some repo was not merged properly01:59
rsalvetilet me check the repos01:59
rsalvetiwe just had one landing for qtubuntu-media a few hours ago02:00
rsalvetiyeah, latest qtubuntu-media in bzr is not the same one that is available in rtm02:01
rsalvetilet me sync that02:01
robruThat exception is really bizarre. Hopefully rsalveti can fix it02:05
jhodapprsalveti, hmm, I merged with trunk before pushing02:05
rsalvetiyeah, I think I know what is wrong02:05
rsalvetijhodapp: trunk is not reflecting latest02:05
jhodappoh no02:05
rsalvetifor some reason the branch tvoss created wasn't merged automatically with the landing02:05
robrursalveti: oh is there a silo that was published but not merged?02:05
rsalvetirobru: silo is gone already02:05
robruAh02:05
jhodappcrap02:06
jhodappso what's the process to remedy this?02:06
rsalvetijhodapp: manually mergint it02:07
rsalvetijhodapp: done for qtubuntu-media02:07
jhodappah right02:07
rsalvetialright, rebuilding02:08
jhodapprsalveti, awesome02:08
jhodappthanks02:08
rsalvetithat was me aborting the previous build02:08
jhodapprsalveti, ok :)02:09
jhodappwas just going to ask02:09
imgbot=== trainguards: IMAGE 289 building (started: 20141016 02:10) ===02:09
robruI should probably change that message to say "build aborted" or something...02:10
rsalvetiargh02:11
rsalvetijhodapp: ^02:12
rsalvetijhodapp: might need another merge with trunk02:12
jhodappok02:13
jhodapprsalveti, try again02:17
rsalvetialright, now we wait02:18
jhodapp:)02:18
jhodapprsalveti, eating lunch and dinner...only had breakfast today02:18
rsalvetihaha, know the feeling02:18
jhodapp:)02:18
jhodapprsalveti, the thumbnails of the self-recorded videos are still incorrect...it doesn't utilize qtubuntu-media or qtvideo-node as it goes straight to gstreamer02:22
rsalvetijhodapp: right, how to fix that?02:22
jhodapprsalveti, the thumbnailer needs to listen for the same GstTag that media-hub does and do the still image rotation, height/width swap02:22
rsalvetiwrong window02:22
rsalvetijhodapp: oh, right02:23
jhodapprsalveti, it'd be very similar to what I just did02:24
jhodapprsalveti, I'll have to bring Satoris/jamesh up on it02:24
rsalvetiright02:24
imgbot=== trainguards: RTM IMAGE 109 DONE (finished: 20141016 02:25) ===02:24
imgbot=== changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/109.changes ===02:24
rsalvetiguess this one is with latest device tarball02:25
jhodappnice02:25
rsalvetijhodapp: ok, packages are finally building now02:27
jhodappexcellent!02:27
jhodapptime to watch some TV while it builds02:27
jhodappoh no02:28
jhodapprsalveti, same thing with qtvideo-node02:29
rsalvetithe fuck02:30
jhodapprsalveti, lol02:30
jhodappthat definitely should be in sync with trunk02:30
rsalvetijob is still running02:30
rsalvetihttps://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-016-1-build/40/console02:30
jhodappweird02:30
* elopio flashes 109 to start testing.02:30
rsalvetistill building at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-01602:30
jhodappgood02:30
rsalvetiaborted the latest run so I can rebuild qtvideo-node02:39
rsalvetibut the packages are still building on the ppa02:39
olli_ToyKeeper, is 109 the candidate?02:48
olli_jfunk, did someone notify AlexK02:49
* olli_ waves at elopio too02:49
olli_elopio, ToyKeeper I have some baby bedtime duty but will then stick around02:49
elopiohello olli_.02:50
ToyKeeperolli_: We're testing 109, anyway...  even though it doesn't have a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/137929602:51
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,Fix released]02:51
ToyKeeperolli_: Whether it gets promoted is someone else's call.  I'll just report results minus that bug.02:51
olli_ToyKeeper, yeah02:51
jfunkolli_: I am talking to Alex at this very moment02:52
jfunkolli_: he knows already02:52
olli_jfunk, awesome, sending my mail update too02:52
jfunkolli_: I am about to send a test status update myself :)02:52
jfunkthen ToyKeeper will send one after leo and her are finished02:52
jfunkolli_: saw some talk earlier in the channel about important stuff and maybe 110 is the candidate02:56
jfunkcan you comment on that?02:56
olli_I think sil killed that before he left02:59
jfunkack, Alex K confirms03:00
olli_jfunk, if I am not misreading the backlog, then it was about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/137929603:00
jfunkthx03:00
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,Fix released]03:00
jfunkyes03:00
* olli_ doublechecks03:01
olli_not on the PM list03:01
jfunkok03:01
olli_slangasek, ^ btw03:02
olli_missed you q earlier03:03
olli_your03:03
imgbot=== trainguards: RTM IMAGE 110 building (started: 20141016 03:10) ===03:09
slangasekolli_: "not on the PM list" - well, it was also marked as fixed already, and no one tracked that it wasn't fixed on ubuntu-rtm, fwiw - not that I'm encouraging us to further block the promotion...03:12
jfunkolli_: about to EOD03:18
jfunkolli_: anything else you need?03:18
jfunkelopio: and ToyKeeper will carry the torch for the next hour or two03:18
jhodapprsalveti, can you try out silo 16 to see if it rotates for you cleanly?03:18
olli_jfunk, I think we are good03:18
jfunkack nite then03:19
Mirvmorning03:19
jfunkthanks03:19
olli_nn03:19
* Mirv catches up03:22
MirvToyKeeper: hey torchkeeper :) assumably nothing goes in atm. are we waiting for anything in particular? 110 just started building, does it have that unity8 lifecycle fix mentioned above?03:26
olli_slangasek, so, I was reading the backlog again03:27
olli_not sure why https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379296 is a worry, it seems like it wasn't on the list to start with03:28
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,Fix released]03:28
ToyKeeperMirv: I don't know if it has the fix or not...  I'm busy with 109.  ;P03:28
MirvToyKeeper: ok!03:29
ToyKeeperThis test plan is really quite long though...  will take a while to finish, even with two of us splitting the work.03:29
MirvToyKeeper: keep up the good work, I'll dig up what I need from publish logs etc03:31
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elopioubuntu-qa, or anybody: where do I report a bug for the facebook app?03:39
ToyKeeperHmm...  remind me not to make embarrassing photos/videos when I might need a screenshot for a bug report.  ;P03:42
elopioI'm guessing webapps-core. There it goes...03:42
ollielopio, got an ID?03:48
Mirvolli: the bug was on promotion blocker list earlier, but apparently it somehow missed rtm and landed only in utopic. it's now cherry-picked in silo 12.03:49
elopioolli: ID for what?03:49
ollielopio, webapps-core bug03:49
olliMirv, ah, promo blocker list03:51
elopioolli: bug #138185703:52
ubot5bug 1381857 in The Webapps-core project "facebook web app is closed when the phone is locked" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138185703:52
ollielopio, escalated03:53
elopioolli: do you want us to report here all the bugs we are finding, or do you prefer just to get the summary email?03:54
ollielopio, ToyKeeper if you don't mind right here, then I can just escalate accordingly03:55
olliI'll be around for another 2h03:56
elopioolli:  bug #137793903:56
ubot5bug 1377939 in Ubuntu UX "Scope using location cause a dialog "An unconfined application wants to access your current location"" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137793903:56
elopioolli: and two minor details:03:57
elopiobug #138185703:57
elopiobug #138184903:57
ubot5bug 1381857 in The Webapps-core project "facebook web app is closed when the phone is locked" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138185703:57
ubot5bug 1381849 in libqtelegram "Country list shows □ " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138184903:57
elopiosorry, I repeated the first.03:59
elopioIt's bug #138186003:59
ubot5bug 1381860 in The Webapps-core project "Facebook web app always has a cancel button that closes the app" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138186003:59
rsalvetijhodapp: working for some use cases04:00
rsalvetijhodapp: not every rotation though04:00
rsalvetilet me record again to make sure04:00
jhodapprsalveti, are the times that it doesn't work always reproducible?04:01
rsalvetijhodapp: just test 90, 180 and 27004:02
jhodapprsalveti, what do you mean?04:02
rsalvetijhodapp: rotating the device at 90, 180 and 270 degrees while recording04:03
jhodapprsalveti, ah makes sense...I only support 1 way right now04:04
jhodapprsalveti, the real limitation is we really need to get the transformation matrix from the mp4 container all the way to qtvideo-node04:05
jhodapprsalveti, but I should be able to convert those other 3 matrices and hard code them for now04:06
rsalvetijhodapp: right, we kind of only need to handle 4 use cases04:07
jhodapprsalveti, yeah, the 4 orientations04:07
jhodapprsalveti, that's all that the qtdemux supports anyway04:07
rsalvetijhodapp: right04:07
jhodapprsalveti, but, it will most likely require 3 other new checks in qtdemux and a rebuild of gst-plugins-good04:08
rsalvetijhodapp: right, just because this feels to be a partial fix04:08
rsalvetiwe can land this way still, but the others are also critical04:08
jhodapprsalveti, good find though, I must have always recorded things in the same orientation and so didn't notice04:08
rsalveti0' is fine04:09
jhodapprsalveti, well let's evaluate in the morning...I should be able to quickly add the others pretty easily04:09
jhodappI'm brain dead for tonight04:09
rsalveti270 as well04:09
rsalveti90' and 180' are both wrong04:09
jhodappyeah, so a 90' recorded video needs 180 degrees playback rotation04:10
jhodappand 180' needs 270'04:10
rsalvetirecording up-side-down (180) makes it really weird :-)04:10
jhodappI bet :)04:10
rsalvetijhodapp: yeah, nothing to be fixed today still04:10
rsalveti:-)04:10
jhodappthe horizontal flip matrix that I apply would be weird on the 180 case04:11
rsalvetiyeah04:11
jhodappit was a re-crash course on Linear Algebra04:11
rsalvetinice :-)04:12
ToyKeeperolli: Oh, telling you about the bugs here? ...  could be a long list.04:12
jhodappit's only been 10 years04:12
rsalvetiyeah, same for me04:12
jhodapphehe04:12
ToyKeeperolli: I've been mostly trying to finish tests, queueing up bugs to file later.04:12
olliToyKeeper, wfm04:13
ToyKeeperolli: Anyway...  I got a muted-volume popup in the welcome wizard: http://toykeeper.net/tmp/phablet/2014-10-15/volume-mute-in-wizard.png04:13
jhodapprsalveti, alright, I'm going to head to bed so I'm fresh in the morning...I updated ricmm in private message with where I'm at04:13
olliToyKeeper, no rush, just go with your flow and share when ready04:13
ToyKeeperolli: Ringtones are still lagging ~4s behind the screen update for calls, ~6s behind for incoming SMS.04:13
ToyKeeperolli: It still says 'unconfined' instead of anything useful for permission requests: https://launchpad.net/bugs/137793904:13
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1377939 in Ubuntu UX "Scope using location cause a dialog "An unconfined application wants to access your current location"" [Undecided,Triaged]04:13
elopioToyKeeper: do you know if to receive a push notification an u1 account is needed?04:14
ToyKeeperolli: Missing unicode chars in country list: https://launchpad.net/bugs/138184904:14
jhodapprsalveti, have a good one!04:14
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381849 in libqtelegram "Country list shows □ " [Undecided,New]04:14
jhodapprsalveti, thanks for the testing help04:14
ToyKeeperelopio: Not sure, but I think so.04:14
rsalvetijhodapp: you too, have a good night04:14
ToyKeeperolli: The music app's "recent" view can still show old info, like deleted playlists.  It doesn't auto-refresh quite right.04:14
elopioToyKeeper: no, I got them from twitter. It's just not immediate.04:14
ToyKeeperolli: The volume notifier widget hides the volume indicator's control: http://toykeeper.net/tmp/phablet/2014-10-15/volume-hides-volume.png04:15
rsalvetiindeed04:16
ToyKeeperolli: Videos from the camera show up in the gallery with a date from the future: http://toykeeper.net/tmp/phablet/2014-10-15/videos-from-the-future.png04:16
rsalvetibesides the annoying volume notification on the wizard04:16
ToyKeeper(but file timestamps are correct)04:16
ToyKeeperolli: New camera photos show up in the photoroll with a date 8 hours in the future (and I'm in UTC-6, WTF): http://toykeeper.net/tmp/phablet/2014-10-15/photos-from-the-future.png04:16
ToyKeeperolli: Same shot as above, full-res main camera pics get a black thumbnail in the photoroll preview (but correct thumbnail in the carousel).04:17
ToyKeeperolli: New photos and videos from the camera aren't shown in scopes until after a new search is made, or a reboot.  (no auto-update based on a new file appearing)04:17
ToyKeeperolli: The facebook app bug elopio reported: https://launchpad.net/bugs/138185704:17
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381857 in The Webapps-core project "facebook web app is closed when the phone is locked" [Critical,New]04:17
olliToyKeeper, wow04:18
ToyKeeperolli: ... on initial login, it can take 5+ seconds to load app icons.04:18
ToyKeeperolli: The Gallery 'Album' view header covers part of the top image: http://toykeeper.net/tmp/phablet/2014-10-15/album-header-covers-top-photo.png04:18
ToyKeeperolli:  ... and that's everything so far.  Need to pick a new section of the test plan to start on now.04:18
ToyKeeper(started with multimedia by request)04:19
ToyKeeperRight, Scopes are next.04:20
elopioToyKeeper: bug #137861804:20
ubot5bug 1378618 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "volume notification looks bad when an indicator is open" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137861804:20
olliToyKeeper, ok, I'll go through the list and where/when you have bugs i can help prioritize04:21
elopioToyKeeper: bug #137861804:21
ToyKeeperelopio: Thanks!  I noticed that bug too: http://toykeeper.net/tmp/phablet/2014-10-15/volume-hides-volume.png04:22
elopiosorry, it got sent twice. ToyKeeper: from that bug, the bubble shouldn't appear when the indicator is open.04:22
elopiobut at least now they made it a different color. It used to look worse04:23
elopioToyKeeper: for the slow icons on the dash, Saviq pointed to this bug #137938104:26
ubot5bug 1379381 in Ubuntu UX "[Dash] shows splash screen with "Scopes" when starting up the phone" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137938104:26
elopiobut I think it's a little different.04:26
elopioif you report it, please add a comment on that bug so Saviq knows there's a new one related.04:26
rsalvetiToyKeeper: did you open the one that shows the volume indicator on the wizard?04:31
ToyKeeperrsalveti: To get test results faster, I'm queueing up bugs to file after I send the report...  not filing them as I find them.04:31
rsalvetiToyKeeper: alright, but is this one in your list?04:31
rsalvetiif so will just let you open it04:31
ToyKeeperrsalveti: Yes, it's on my list.  I don't mind if you get to it first though...  just remember to send me the link.  ):04:32
ToyKeeper:) even04:32
rsalvetisure04:32
elopioI can't find where to add a reminder in the reminders app.04:33
elopioAm I blind?04:33
olliwasn't the new tarball supposed to add the new dashboard scope04:34
ollicwayne^04:34
ToyKeeperAh, that's what the "big change" was about?04:34
olliduno04:35
rsalvetiI got it here04:35
rsalvetiswipe to the left04:35
ollifound it, didn't --wipe so I guess it's not first one by default04:35
rsalveticould be04:35
rsalvetiflashed with bootstrap here04:35
rsalvetiToyKeeper: please confirm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/138187104:41
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381871 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[wizard] volume notification showing up during wizard (with volume as 0)" [Undecided,New]04:41
ToyKeeperrsalveti: Done.04:43
rsalvetiToyKeeper: thanks04:44
ToyKeeperolli: The default 'Ring' ringtone isn't selectable, so after changing it to something else the user can't go back to default.  (then again, the default is terrible anyway)04:52
olli:)04:52
ToyKeeperolli: After setting a new ringtone, it doesn't take effect until the next boot.  :(05:00
olliToyKeeper, :/05:00
ToyKeeperolli: I also somehow managed to break the proximity sensor during one boot, but haven't been able to reproduce the issue.05:01
ollisorry, seem like I am replying in emoticons05:01
elopioToyKeeper: olli: two more small issues05:03
elopiobug #138187205:03
elopiobug #138187405:03
ubot5bug 1381872 in Online Accounts setup for Ubuntu Touch "On the flickr account, the name of the scope is so long it's not useful to decide if access should be allowed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138187205:03
ubot5bug 1381874 in Online Accounts setup for Ubuntu Touch "The scope requesting access to the flickr account shows no image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138187405:03
elopiothe last one should be probably for the flickr scope, but I can't find the project.05:04
ollielopio, will check05:04
ollielopio, I squashed as invalid https://bugs.launchpad.net/webapps-core/+bug/138186005:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381860 in The Webapps-core project "some web app always have a cancel button that closes the app" [Undecided,Invalid]05:04
elopioolli: I made posts on facebook with the cancel account on the bottom.05:05
elopios/account/button05:05
ToyKeeperolli, elopio: Two boots in a row, the proximity sensor stopped working after a few calls.  :(05:05
olliinteresting05:06
elopioon twitter you are right, the button disappears.05:06
elopioI'll retry on facebook05:06
olliToyKeeper, seems to be gone here too05:07
ToyKeeperDead prox sensor is probably a priority.  :(05:08
slangasekolli: oh; you're right, it wasn't, I misread the tags on the bug before05:08
elopioolli: bug #1381860 back to new with a screenshot.05:09
ubot5bug 1381860 in The Webapps-core project "facebook web app always has a cancel button that closes the app" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138186005:09
olliToyKeeper, cancel that, did 6 calls in a row with working proximity sensor05:09
ollielopio, hah05:09
* olli shakes fist05:09
olliI was so proud...05:10
olli;)05:10
elopiomess with the best, die like the rest... ;)05:11
elopioolli: ToyKeeper: should I test maps, even if I won't get the accurate fix ?05:15
elopioor are we planning to retry the location service landing before delivering the image?05:15
ollielopio, my understanding according to tvoss is that you get a fix within 10sec05:17
ollijust a bit slower05:17
ollibut I might be wrong05:17
ollielopio, tvoss should come on not before too long, maybe push back and test something else meanwhile05:18
Mirvmy understanding was that without 004 the GPS is not wired correctly to be a location provider, so it doesn't work05:18
elopioolli: I'll try.05:18
ollielopio, I'd suggest to confirm with tvoss before spending time05:18
elopioMirv: that's what I thought too, but I didn't try outside without the silo.05:18
Mirvone gets a "fix" ie approximate location, but it doesn't follow except for those cell id based hops05:18
elopioolli: ok. Many other things to test anyway. tvoss: please ping when you get back.05:19
ToyKeeperIt really sounds like the number of "not landed yet" functions means this image can't get promoted.05:20
ToyKeeper110 perhaps?05:20
MirvToyKeeper: #110 is already building without changes. I think there's nothing in the landing queue that has absolutely been decided is going to land, though, but there are candidates...05:21
Mirvif #109 has no new blockers, then it may be promoted for real05:22
Mirveven with the known things that are lacking05:22
ollihttps://launchpad.net/bugs/138185705:23
ollihttps://launchpad.net/bugs/138187105:23
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381857 in The Webapps-core project "facebook web app is closed when the phone is locked" [Critical,New]05:23
ToyKeeperWell, the test plan for it is certainly thorough.  Big change from the older manual test plan we used last time I was doing that regularly.05:23
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381871 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[wizard] volume notification showing up during wizard (with volume as 0)" [Critical,Confirmed]05:23
ollithese 2 are the ones I am worried about05:23
Mirvelopio: how did you test the rtm-004 btw? are there instructions somewhere on how to upgrade lxc-android-config (which fails to unpack when using apt to upgrade to it)?05:28
elopioMirv: yes, on the location-service test plan there's a link05:28
elopiohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing/lxc-android-config05:29
Mirvelopio: thanks!!05:29
elopioolli: ToyKeeper: bug #138187605:31
ubot5bug 1381876 in webbrowser-app "Crashed after opening a bookmark" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138187605:31
elopiounable to reproduce it, though.05:31
* olli tries05:34
ollican't reproduce05:37
ollielopio, ToyKeeper, how far in are you in your testing? just so I get a feel of what's still ahead and whether or not to get the coffee maker going05:41
ToyKeeperWell, that's going to take a while to recover from...  my notebook just spontaneously shut itself off.  (I normally only reboot once per Ubuntu release, and usually have like 200 windows open... so this is pretty disruptive)05:43
olliurgs05:45
elopioolli: according to the report, there are 22% of the tests not executed.05:48
olliok05:49
elopioolli: some of the executed ones are from #106. I don't know how to get a number about how many.05:49
olliso ~1/4 left05:49
elopioolli: well, if we want to run all on 109, more like 1/205:49
ollielopio, /me is really just trying to figure out whether to go to bed ;)05:49
ollielopio, that is a decision I won't impact, your call, have not been involved in that discussion so I don't think I can help05:50
elopioolli: tbh, I'm not sure why you are awake :) why don't you go to sleep for a while and get back when the report is ready?05:50
ToyKeeperolli: Some of the tests were executed on 106 though, not 109.  So, the percent not run yet is higher.05:50
ollielopio, I am triaging as you file05:50
ollihoping that victorp or so can take over once awake05:50
ollibut mostly also to provide you mental support ;)05:51
elopioolli: I know. But we don't find that many bugs. If you do it all at once, it won't take 30 minutes, I think.05:51
ToyKeeperThis test plan is huge...  three people working on it and it's still only about half done.05:51
* elopio dances to The Smiths while testing, for mental support :D05:52
olli:)05:53
ollimental/moral05:53
ollitrying to declare your bugs and hard work as invalid... and failing to do so...05:54
olliyou know, that whole motivational thing we mgrs do ;)05:54
ToyKeeperI still think it's weird that we call it a feature instead of a bug that the user can reply to text messages while the phone is locked.05:58
elopioolli: It's appreciated. I'm just saying that if you want to sleep, we won't mind and it won't affect the process too much.05:59
olli;)05:59
ToyKeeperelopio: Did you run into any difficulties adding online accounts?  I'm getting an immediate abort while trying to add a google account.06:05
ToyKeeperelopio: ... just like the facebook account add sometimes does.06:06
ToyKeeper(and is also currently doing, d'oh)06:06
elopioToyKeeper: I'm having problems adding the google one because the confirmation message can take 15 minutes and if the phone locks, the app is closed and I have to restart.06:06
elopiobut I could add the facebook, twitter, u1, flickr and reminders.06:06
ToyKeeperI've seen this a lot in the past few images...  like last night.  Couldn't add a facebook account without rebooting first (and sometimes it takes more than one boot).06:07
elopioToyKeeper: I haven't seen it. But if your window closes, you should get a crash or something on the log, right?06:08
ToyKeeperelopio: I'm not seeing anything in /var/crash which looks related.06:09
ToyKeeperSome boots it works, others it doesn't.  I haven't found a way to make it work after failing, aside from a reboot.06:09
ToyKeeperWhen it doesn't work, it spins for a few seconds to load the browser and then it immediately aborts and goes back to whatever invoked the add-account action.06:10
ollielopio, ToyKeeper, alright, I just send a status with what i have gathered from you06:13
tvossgood morning06:13
olliwill lay down for a few hours, hope to be back in ~5-6h06:13
elopioToyKeeper: what should I do if the phone just freezes? media-hub is consuming all the cpu after I opened the camera.06:14
elopioolli: bye. See you tomorrow.06:14
ToyKeeperelopio: Is apport doing anything?  Did unity8 crash?06:14
ollithanks for your late night shift ToyKeeper & elopio!06:14
ToyKeeperelopio: Definitely a bug, but...  the details from there depend on what you can find out.06:15
elopiotvoss: hey. I was wondering if I should run the maps tests on image #109 even if the location services didn't land. Or are we planning to get a new image, so I better wait.06:15
ToyKeeperelopio: Er, is the facebook app installed by default for you?  I didn't get it with the base image.06:15
elopioToyKeeper: I don't see any recent crashes.06:15
tvosselopio, you can test location without silo 406:15
elopioToyKeeper: yes, I have it.06:15
tvosselopio, have to prepare breakfast, with you in a few06:15
ToyKeeperOkay, so when I flashed 109 I didn't get the facebook app, didn't get the dashboard scope, may have had other stuff missing too.  That worries me.06:16
elopioToyKeeper: it finally opened the camera. But media hub is still 97% of the CPU.06:17
ToyKeeperD'oh, I can't check the scrollback for my flash process because it died when my notebook shut itself off.06:19
elopioToyKeeper: maybe you missed the --wipe.06:19
ToyKeeperNope, --wipe is always included.06:20
ToyKeeperHmm, my UI locked while going back to the main app scope after installing an app.  Got stuck like this until I turned the screen off/on: http://toykeeper.net/tmp/phablet/2014-10-15/back-from-store.png06:21
elopioToyKeeper: I got something similar while opening the camera. But I couldn't turn the screen off.06:24
elopioToyKeeper: I reported bug #1381893, but I don't think it was the cause. Now I can open the camera and media hub is still on fire.06:25
ubot5bug 1381893 in Media Hub "media-hub is consuming all the CPU with nothing running" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138189306:25
ToyKeeperHmm, File Manager is missing too.06:26
elopioToyKeeper: I don't have filemanager.06:26
ToyKeeperelopio: I haven't seen media-hub freak out on 109 yet, even while opening the camera.06:27
elopioit's in the store though. Maybe the moved it.06:27
ToyKeeperFile Manager should probably be included by default though...  and it's a default source for pretty much any mime-type.06:27
* ToyKeeper reflashes to check if the missing apps are reproducible06:27
elopioI agree.06:27
elopioChipaca: are you online? are we supposed to get notifications when the gmail account receives a message?06:37
elopioI'm going to have dinner. bbs.06:39
seb128on rtm 109, I played a video once and now it doesn't work anymore, is that a known issue?06:40
ToyKeeperseb128: Weird, I played a bunch of videos and it was fine...06:41
ToyKeeperseb128: Not a known issue.06:41
seb128k06:41
seb128I played it from the gallery, so maybe it's due to that or maybe an unlucky try06:41
ToyKeeperOh, could be...  I only tried one in the gallery.06:41
seb128the video comes from the camera app06:41
ToyKeeperelopio: So...  after reflashing, I have 7 apps which weren't there the first time I flashed 109.  I wonder if I did the first flash before it had finished uploading parts of the image.06:45
ToyKeeperelopio: The 7 apps were: Amazon, eBay, Facebook, Gmail, Reminders, Tasks, Twitter.  (notice a pattern?)06:46
ToyKeeperFile Manager is still notably missing.06:46
elopioI have all of them, except file manager.06:47
ToyKeeperOh, the reflash also added the dashboard scope.06:48
elopioI also had that since the first flash.06:48
tvossgood morning07:24
tvossseb128, known issue, fix for mediaplayer app is in rtm silo 607:25
seb128tvoss, hey, thanks07:27
tvossseb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediaplayer-app/+bug/137646707:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1376467 in mediaplayer-app "can't playback a second video" [Critical,Confirmed]07:27
slangasekelopio, ToyKeeper: so does 109 check out?  sounds like you've run into some problems, but did these resolve themselves on reflash?07:28
slangasekfor the record, File Manager is missing because it's not on the list of click apps that are supposed to be included; if there's functionality that depends on it being present, this may need re-evaluated07:29
ToyKeeperslangasek: This test plan is quite long...  am in the middle of handing it off to .eu timezone folks to finish.07:29
slangasekok07:29
slangasekthen I'll likewise hand back off to .eu for handling the promotion :)07:30
slangasekogra_, sil2100: ^^ morning - promotion not yet done, tests in progress, tag you're it07:30
Mirv;)07:30
ToyKeeper:w07:30
ToyKeeper... wrong window.07:30
seb128slangasek, is that list somewhere public?07:32
slangasekseb128: no07:33
seb128k :/07:34
ToyKeeperNot sure why, but results have only been going to a list of Cc'd recipients so far.  In case there's a good reason, I didn't Cc any mailing lists with my summary.07:35
slangasekToyKeeper: well, either you get questions from random managers because you did cc: us, or you get questions from random managers because you didn't... pick your poison ;-)07:35
ToyKeeperGah!  Well, the good news is I figured out why my notebook spontaneously shut itself off...  the bad news is that something inside seems to short whenever I move it.  :(07:40
ogra_*yawn*07:43
ogra_slangasek, did anyone think about asking the lab guys to remove the tests for the non-shipped apps on krillin ?07:45
ogra_hmm, seeing the test results that obviously not the case07:47
sil2100o/07:49
ogra_moin07:49
sil2100Any good news?07:49
ogra_not yet i thinnk07:49
ogra_sil2100, we also forgot to ask paul to remove the tests for all the removed click apps from smoketesting07:49
sil2100Ah, right... but when I poked him later that night he wasn't responsive anyway07:50
ogra_ok07:50
ogra_well, we should hand them a list ...07:50
ogra_sil2100, i assume you are on ToyKeeper's CC list (i am not) and should know more about the status than me btw :)07:52
* ogra_ re-installs filemanager and terminal 07:53
Mirvsil2100: so the testing has been handed over to our timezone QA people07:59
ogra_which is only brendand today07:59
ogra_seb128, iirc there is a bug open (and silo available) for mediaplayer only playing a video once08:00
MirvI don't think there was a clear decision on landing 012 if we'd build a new image. tvoss is probably looking at the 004 issues anyway. 005 and 006 are possible landing candidates for known issues.08:01
ogra_something about the url not being rewrittem08:01
seb128ogra_, yeah, cf tvoss' reply a bit earlier08:01
tvossMirv, yup, looking at 408:01
brendandogra_, well jibel is also there08:01
ogra_seb128, oop, 5h sleep dont serve me well :P08:01
ogra_brendand, oh, right08:01
seb128ogra_, too much sleep right?08:01
ogra_definitely :P08:02
jibelgood morning :)08:03
sil2100Morning!08:05
sil2100All in all, I guess we first need to address the big 2 blockers on the list from QA08:05
sil2100Saviq: hey!08:05
sil2100brendand, jibel: did you guys already pick up the testing? How much more time do you need to finish up?08:06
sil2100Mirv: anyway, I would concentrate on pushing on the blockers, trying not to land anything besides those08:09
sil2100Well, strange that QA didn't find the qtmir unity8-dash restarting bug as a blocker btw.08:09
ogra_sil2100, you only hit it if you open many ram-hungry apps08:13
sil2100elopio: are you still around?08:13
sil2100We would need someone addressing mardy's comments on bug LP: #138185708:14
ubot5Launchpad bug 1381857 in The Webapps-core project "facebook web app is closed when the phone is locked" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138185708:14
ogra_not sure if we have a test that would make you reach the condition where lifecycle mgmt kicks in08:14
sil2100ogra_: true...08:15
ogra_(that requires quite a few apps to be open or to have them long running)08:15
jibelsil2100, which bug # is it?08:16
ogra_jibel, http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/issues/08:17
ogra_the second one08:17
jibelah ok, thanks08:17
sil2100Anyway, looking a the list I would only consider the facebook one as a real potential blocker08:18
sil2100The volume-up issue looks to me more like an annoyance08:18
sil2100seb128: who's the main person responsible for the wizard in system settings?08:18
ogra_mterry08:19
sil2100So no one from our TZ?08:19
ogra_sil2100, whats the "volume up issue" ?08:19
* ogra_ has the feeling you have a buglist 08:19
sil2100ogra_: let me forward you that08:19
ogra_thx :)08:20
* sil2100 wonders why olli sent the list to single people and not any ML08:20
sil2100...even though it's part of my thread which was sent out to phablet and ue-leads08:20
ogra_ue-leads ... argh08:20
sil2100Well, this one wasn't sent out there though08:21
sil2100Just single people were CCd08:21
ogra_obviously not answered via phablet then08:21
Mirvsil2100: those new blockers AFAIK only considered new findings during the image testing08:21
ogra_(which would really have been helpful since many people watch and wait )08:21
seb128sil2100, mterry and Cimi08:21
sil2100seb128: thanks!08:22
seb128sil2100, I can probably help having a look if needed, it's in settings in some way08:22
Mirvsil2100: I'm not sure still if the 012 (qtmir/unity out-of-mem) was properly considered or not. 005 and 006 probably missed the deadline more simply, and 004 would need another management decision if it would be first fixed and then verified (after all GPS would be nice to have of course)08:22
Mirvsil2100: but I think the biggest question mark is if 012 should be included08:23
Mirvand then the new blockers08:23
sil2100Mirv: yeah, well, normally if QA doesn't find an issue with this during promotion testing, it shouldn08:23
sil2100't08:23
sil2100Since basically IMO we should only consider fixing new blockers, as slipping in anything else is regression potential08:23
sil2100And if we decide we don't promote this image (109), then it means we loose another 8 hours08:24
sil2100+ time needed to fix the issues pointed out08:24
sil2100And that's *bad*08:24
Mirvsil2100: I agree. I just would have liked to have it clearly pointed out that 012 is _not_ wanted :)08:24
sil2100Since if the new image has *new* regressions, the we're basically, saying it bluntly, fucked ;)08:24
Mirvnot that I've any e-mail / list either so I don't actually know08:24
ogra_yeah, that should really have gone to phablet08:25
sil2100Mirv: oh, right, you didn't get this as well08:25
* sil2100 wonders if he should forward it to phablet@08:25
sil2100I think I should08:25
ogra_sil2100, cant you just forward it to phablet ?08:25
sil2100Let me do it08:25
ogra_hah08:25
MirvI did see on IRC that 1381857 and 1381871 were considered worrying08:25
ogra_*snap*08:25
ogra_:)08:25
Mirvand then of course the testing is not fully finished08:26
popeybug 138185708:26
ubot5bug 1381857 in The Webapps-core project "facebook web app is closed when the phone is locked" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138185708:26
popeybug 138187108:27
ubot5bug 1381871 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[wizard] volume notification showing up during wizard (with volume as 0)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138187108:27
ogra_funny that nobody thinks that the volume thingie is having no top margin is a UX bug08:27
sil2100Mirv: yeah08:28
sil2100Mirv, popey, ogra_: ok, so I forwarded the e-mail to phablet08:28
ogra_thanks !08:28
seb128sil2100, popey, ogra_, is that a new issue?08:28
ogra_seb128, well, the volume UI wasnt in anything yet08:28
ogra_i think it only entered rtm yesterday08:28
sil2100seb128: so, olli marked bug 1381871 as a potential blocker - not sure about that, but maybe we could have someone looking at that before we get the final assessment08:29
ubot5bug 1381871 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[wizard] volume notification showing up during wizard (with volume as 0)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138187108:29
cjwatsonwhat's all this stuff about filemanager et al not being installed on upgrade?08:29
ogra_cjwatson, thats on purpose, no ?08:29
cjwatsonat least some of the apps mentioned were meant to be in the new custom tarball08:30
ogra_filemanager and terminal are not in the krillin custom tarball08:30
cjwatsonok not filemanager08:30
cjwatsonbut Selene mentioned amazon, ebay, ...?08:30
sil2100hm08:30
ogra_(and possibly more, these were the two i noticed)08:30
popeywhere was the discussion about which apps are in the tarball?08:30
cjwatson07:45 <ToyKeeper> elopio: So...  after reflashing, I have 7 apps which weren't there the first time I flashed 109.  I wonder if I did the first flash before it had finished uploading parts of the image.08:30
sil2100cjwatson: from the e-mail I have from ToyKeeper, she said that filemanager is missing only08:30
cjwatson07:46 <ToyKeeper> elopio: The 7 apps were: Amazon, eBay, Facebook, Gmail, Reminders, Tasks, Twitter.  (notice a pattern?)08:30
popeyI saw a mail from steve this morning08:30
cjwatsonsil2100: ah, ok08:30
sil2100hmmm08:31
popeybut not where it was discussed.08:31
ogra_sil2100, then she missed the terminal missing ;)08:31
cjwatsonpopey: not so much discussed as instructed.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/136733208:31
ubot5Error: ubuntu bug 1367332 not found08:31
cjwatsonafaik it was the product team08:31
sil2100cjwatson: she sent out the e-mail at 9:00, so I guess the e-mail should be more up-to-date ;p08:31
cjwatsonok cool08:31
* sil2100 hopes so at least08:31
popeyok08:31
sil2100ogra_: but you did an OTA as well right?08:32
ogra_yep08:32
john-mcaleelythere is a testplan in Barajas about what should be in the krillin tarball08:32
john-mcaleelythat's not (yet) a public document08:32
sil2100Oh, meeting!08:32
ogra_yup :)08:32
Mirv:)08:33
Chipacaelopio: i am online now08:37
Chipacaelopio: you are supposed to, but you need to set it up (last time i checked the gmail webapp wasn't using online accounts, so you needed to create an online account for the notifications)08:38
brendandChipaca, elopio went offline, if it's about a bug you can follow up with me or jibel08:44
Chipacabrendand: all i have is a question from him08:45
brendandChipaca, what was it?08:45
Chipacaelopio> 08:38:09> Chipaca: are you online? are we supposed to get notifications when the gmail account receives a message?08:45
brendandChipaca, right - and the answer is 'yes' if you enabled it08:46
Chipacabrendand: only if the UOA-enabled gmail webapp didn't land08:47
popeyogra_: just OTA'ed my n7 and n4 and they're both sat at the Google logo08:47
Chipacabrendand: if it did, then you needn't enable it any more08:47
tvosssil2100, do you have rtm 23 under consideration still?08:48
brendandChipaca, well you need to allow the app to access the account08:48
Chipacabrendand: yes08:49
brendandChipaca, i tested that landing so i know how it works - i wonder what issue he was having with that08:49
Chipacai guess we'll never know :)08:49
Saviqsil2100, I'm on it08:49
SaviqFWIW that bug was not marked for landing 10/16... that's the only reason it didn't land in rtm...08:50
popeyogra_: I can't adb shell in... it doesn't show up in adb devices...08:51
Chipacabrendand: maybe we should all go visit elopio after washington.08:52
ogra_john-mcaleely, i only use about 5 apps constantly ... but if one is dekko and the other is the browser you get it quite a lot08:52
ogra_popey, works here, is developer mode enabled ?08:52
popeyogra_: dunno, but I can't tell now can I, stuck at the google logo08:53
popeymight be apparmoring08:53
popeybut it's been a while08:53
ogra_popey, well, then you cant get into adb08:53
popeymore than 30 mins08:53
popeyno, i mean it _might_ be enabled, but I can't tell08:53
ogra_popey, in the next iteration adb is supposed to check the screen state before letting you in ... thats why it is required to wait til the session has started08:53
Saviqtrainguards, reconfigure rtm silo 12 please08:53
Saviqadded the qtmir-gles sync MP08:54
MirvSaviq: ok08:54
john-mcaleelyogra_, yeah. telegram is my main 'app', and that's still not huge usage yet08:54
john-mcaleely(time-wise on the phone)08:54
ogra_yeah, definitely08:55
MirvSaviq: done08:55
ogra_popey, in case you want to debug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8538169/08:56
sil2100Saviq: thanks! :)09:02
sil2100You're the man! Saviq we still don't know if this is a blocker or not, but if we prepare it we'll at least be ready for this eventuality09:03
tvosssil2100, nagging ping for rtm 23?09:04
Saviqsil2100, truth be told I should've included it in the landing yesterday, just got  too clingy to the 10/16 list probably...09:04
ogra_if it wouldnt be so visible when you actually use the phone i would say lets whitelist it and quickly push for an OTA image with the fix09:04
popeyogra_: /sbin/sh: can't create /cache/system/etc/init/android-tools-adbd.override: nonexistent directory09:04
ogra_popey, err, did you mount it ?09:04
sil2100Saviq: yeah, I guess it was also our mistake we forgot about to tell about it to Victor and Olli09:04
popeyogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8572954/09:04
sil2100Saviq: since then it would get bumped to critical rtm14 for sure09:05
Saviqsil2100, not sure if that's known: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1381871/comments/309:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381871 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[wizard] volume notification showing up during wizard (with volume as 0)" [Critical,Confirmed]09:05
sil2100tvoss: hey! We're still on hold sadly, waiting for all testers to finish09:05
ogra_popey, well, it doesnt appear to be mounted ... weird, i tested these instructions09:05
sil2100Saviq: yes, it's one of the possible blockers as per the list olli sent09:05
Saviqsil2100, yeah I just added a finding, it seems it's indeed the wizard triggering volume changes09:06
ogra_Saviq, you mean you can fill your screen with the bubbles ?09:06
Saviqogra_, no, there's only ever one09:06
sil2100seb128: ^09:06
Saviqogra_, but triggered multiple times09:06
ogra_ah09:07
ogra_sounded like you add one with every back/forth09:07
popey/dev/block/loop0 on /cache/system type ext2 (rw,relatime,errors=continue)09:07
popeyalready mounted?09:07
ogra_popey, well, then you shoudl see any content in there09:07
popeysurely I can't be the only one like this?09:08
ogra_unless your rootfs image is completely empty09:08
popey(I have two devices that did this)09:08
ogra_df -h09:08
ogra_?09:08
popey/dev/block/loop0          1.9G      4.0K      1.8G   0% /cache/system09:08
ogra_bah09:08
ogra_that looks broken indeed09:08
popey☹ it was cleanly flashed / wiped only 2 days ago09:08
ogra_was that rtm or utopic ?09:09
jibelogra_, which scopes did you enable and which apps are running when you get bug 1379296 ?09:09
ogra_(its a mako, right ? )09:09
ubot5bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu RTM) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137929609:09
popeyogra_: rtm09:09
ogra_jibel, well, typically i have the browser, two or three webapps, dekko and G+ open ... open a graphics intense page in the breowser or a news webapp with videos on it that you play and it starts09:10
ogra_from then on it will happen regulary09:10
ogra_jibel, you see when the app lifecycle management kicks in if the app previews in the right swipe look a bit blurry09:11
jibelogra_, okay. I hit it very frequently on earlier builds with only a few apps open but the situation is much better now. I'll try with more apps and more resource consuming webpages09:12
ogra_jibel, just starting many apps and switching between them should trigger it too ... you just need to get the memory pressure high enough (which happens by duration or by mass)09:12
jibelogra_, yeah, I know the symptoms09:12
seb128sil2100, yes?09:14
ogra_jibel, i guess adding a bunch of scopes will also triger it ... and i can imagine that presenting scopes is one major part here09:14
ogra_(for this image i mean)09:14
jibelogra_, right I could reproduce with the photo scope and 50 photos in it. But cannot anymore09:14
ogra_inetersting ...09:15
ogra_i only have dekko G+ and a news app open (well, since 2h ) and switching between apps triggers it easily for me09:15
jibelogra_, also just opening Euronews was enough to kill the device09:15
ogra_wow09:15
sil2100Sounds like a blocker to me09:17
ogra_sil2100, i think jibel meant "before"09:18
sil2100Ah09:18
sil2100hm09:18
* sil2100 needs some coffee for his lack of sleep09:18
ogra_haha09:18
ogra_yeah, good idea09:18
jibelbrendand, did you get memory issues recently?09:18
jibelbrendand, well, no you, but you device09:19
jibelnot09:19
jibel+r09:19
ogra_jibel, its not a memory issue, it is wanted behavior ;)09:19
ogra_(just not for the dash)09:19
popeyogra_: so basically i need to flash clean?09:19
brendandjibel, i haven't been doing such intensive use09:19
ogra_popey, i fear so ...09:20
popeyok09:20
popeyta09:20
ogra_popey, but i guess you should be fine just flashing without wiping09:20
popeyjibel: i had very few apps open yesterday and had scopes restart multiple times09:20
popeysure..09:20
ogra_yeah, the usage duration definitely counts too here09:20
popeyi used my phone as my main device all day yesterday as I was away from my pc at a conf09:21
ogra_i rarely get it during the first hour after a reboot if i only have two/three apps open09:21
popeyfound it pretty painful at times.09:21
ogra_but once it starts it stays around very contantly09:21
Chipacapopey: you get to have all the fun09:21
popeyit also got to a state where I couldn't start new apps09:22
jibelpopey, ogra_ how many tabs open in your browseR?09:22
popeyhad to reboot a few times09:22
popeyjibel: none09:22
popeyi had a few webapps apps open09:22
ogra_my browser carries 3 around that i was to lazy to bookmark yet09:22
jibelogra_, popey okay, just got it09:25
jibelOct 16 11:24:37 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 3409.726955]select 'unity8-dash' (2647), adj 802, size 50064, to kill09:25
jibelOct 16 11:24:37 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 3409.727019]Killing 'unity8-dash' (2647), adj 802,09:25
jibelsil2100, ^09:25
jibelrelatively easy with a somewhat normal usage of the webbrowser09:26
popey_109:26
popey+1 even09:26
sil2100uh09:27
jibelit takes more time than before because there is more free memory after boot but the problem is still there09:27
ogra_yeah09:27
ogra_the question is if we need to consider it a blocker ... what do we expect to be done with this image09:27
ogra_if it is only used to short presentations and freshly booted all the time i wouldnt consider it a blocker and just acre to quickly get a fix out via OTA09:28
ogra_*care09:28
ogra_if someone will actually use the device i would block09:29
ogra_(i mean constanly as main device)09:29
sil2100ogra_: I sent out a direct question to Victor regarding this and the other blockers09:32
ogra_thanks !09:32
sil2100But I somehow feel we won't block on any of those - just a feeling09:32
ogra_sil2100, btw, do we have an actual dealine ?09:32
ogra_*deadline09:33
ogra_i.e. did anyone mention an hour09:33
sil2100ogra_: I did not hear anything about that09:33
jibelogra_, sil2100 the problem is that the dash is systematically killed when there are memory conditions and not the backgrounded apps, which completely defeat the purpose of the app lifecycle09:43
ogra_jibel, yep09:44
popeyindeed... my day yesterday.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8573082/09:47
ogra_yeah09:48
jibelpopey, you see, it always starts by the dash because it is the top consumer and has the same oom_score than other apps then kills the webbrowser if it is not enough09:49
popeyyeah09:50
sil2100Ok everyone, I need to jump out for ~1h, need to prepare insurance and everything for the sprint09:52
sil2100If anything, muup09:52
sil2100muuup09:52
sil2100mup mup09:52
sil2100But I guess Mirv is here so everything should be good (tm)09:53
ogra_as long as his cats are here too at least :)09:54
Wellarkany problems found with i-network ?09:59
ogra_yeah, it always shows the wifi icon when i'm on wifi !09:59
ogra_crazy thing that09:59
john-mcaleelyogra_, I wonder if my perception is 'various things are broken', rather than 'memory shortage causes various problems'09:59
ogra_john-mcaleely, well, if you dont know the technology the former is surely true ...10:00
john-mcaleely(just had an online account fail to login in as it transitioned to the web browser). Reboot and it works10:01
ogra_(and i doubt they actually care about the technology)10:01
Wellarkogra_: oh, damn.. OK. let me file a Critical Ubuntu UX bug. I've noticed the same and I'm not happy with it!10:01
john-mcaleelyI'm trying to maintain a users view ;-)10:01
Wellarkogra_: <310:01
popeyok, just fresh flashed my n4 and n7 and now the dash is completely empty of icons10:01
ogra_Wellark, i havent heard about any issues yet :)10:01
ogra_john-mcaleely, right, thats why i raised the issue ... it is so user visible10:02
Wellarkogra_: ok. good. I actually had like  6h sleep (how crazy is that!) and was worried everything broke in me mean time10:02
Mirvo/10:02
Mirvlunching but here10:02
popeyhttp://imgur.com/xMsFRMx,jriuX6G10:03
popeynobody else seeing that?10:03
john-mcaleelyogra_, sure. I agree its a serious problem, even if I'm not aware I'm seeing it :-)10:03
Wellarkpopey: sometimes10:04
Wellarkpopey: could that be the "dash needs to be removed from app lifecycle" ?10:04
popeyits a clean boot10:05
popeyi literally just flashed it and booted, no apps running10:05
WellarkSaviq: ^10:05
cwayne-afkmorning guys10:05
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Saviqpopey, I believe seb128 did, talking with pstolowski about crashing scopes10:06
Saviqpopey, what if you pull to refresh?10:06
popeySaviq: icons appear10:06
Saviqpopey, yeah, sounds like what seb128 saw10:07
popeydo we need a bug for this?10:07
Saviqseb128, pstolowski, do we have a bug for empty apps yet?10:07
popeyogra_: just OTA'ed my bq and that too is sat at the BQ screen for ages now, with no adb10:15
popeyit shows as "offline" in adb...10:16
jibelpopey, disconnect/Reconnect usb cable?10:17
popeysame10:18
popeyits stuck at the bq screen.10:18
pstolowskiSaviq, yeah, 1 sec10:18
popey... time passes and now it boots..10:19
pstolowskipopey, Saviq https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scopes-api/+bug/138197010:19
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381970 in unity-scopes-api (Ubuntu) "unity8-dash segfaults when using click store" [Undecided,New]10:19
popeyooh, new indicators10:20
ogra_popey, as i said, adb only after session is up10:21
ogra_jibel, in the photos scope, if you disable the online sources in the config, does that take effect for you without having to restart the scope ?10:29
ogra_(from the preview i mean ... it uses the changed settings the next time i open it)10:29
jibelogra_, yes, you need to pull down to refresh10:29
jibelogra_, same when you re-enable remote content you must refresh the scope manually10:30
ogra_jibel, that still keeps the facebook and flicker categories around even though i disabled them10:30
ogra_they only go away if i go back to the preview page and open the scope again10:30
jibelbrendand, search remote contents on the photos scope works for you?10:32
cwayneogra_: there's an open bug that changing settings should refresh a scope10:32
ogra_cwayne, ah, good10:33
Saviqsil2100, qtmir ACK10:34
brendandjibel, i'll check10:34
brendandsil2100, landing gates are still closed right?10:34
ogra_brendand, yes10:34
ogra_until we promoted10:34
ogra_(or at least until we know we'll promote)10:35
Mirvor until we know what's decided to be landed10:36
Mirvfun. 4G connection is twice as fast as what I get over wifi with my poor wifi chipset.10:37
Mirv4G-over-USB-tethering, that is10:38
Saviqbrendand, actually bug #1377809 looks like a dupe of bug #1380736, at least from the trace, incomplete as it is10:38
ubot5bug 1377809 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Wizard sometimes crashes after entering wireless passphrase" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137780910:38
ubot5bug 1380736 in qtubuntu-media (Ubuntu) "showing notification right after boot causes unity8 crash" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138073610:38
ogra_dpm, so you didnt push the new reminders out which means it didnt make it onto the image :(10:53
ogra_Mirv, oh, cool, i havent tested tethering for quite a while ... good to know it still works (i still dont know why it doesnt on mako thoigh)10:55
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=== tvoss|test is now known as tvoss
ogra_damn11:16
ogra_my device hags hard11:16
ogra_*hangs11:16
brendandsil2100, can you add jibel to the attendees for the landing meeting?11:17
ogra_i did a right swipe, swiped away an app and it hangs ... no response at all11:17
ogra_ah, now it recovered11:17
ogra_that was definitely not apport ... looks like mir hung for a moment11:18
ogra_(it is normally responsive now)11:18
ogra_oh11:23
ogra_seems slangasek disabled the system-image side of the image builds, but not the rootfs build11:23
* ogra_ notes that we have a rootfs for 110 but it was never imported11:23
ogra_sil2100, ^^ FYI11:24
ollielopio, still around?11:32
ogra_olli, testing was handed over to jibel nad brendand a few hours ago11:35
ogra_*and11:35
brendandolli, got questions?11:35
ollibrendand, got bugs? :)11:35
brendandolli, probably as many as you have questions :)11:35
olliso 1?11:35
olli;)11:35
tvossolli, :)11:36
brendandolli, well it depends how important you want them to be11:36
* Mirv afk for doctor, back in 1h11:38
ollibrendand, jibel, do you have an eta or some indication how far you are?11:39
brendandolli, we are done with all the formal testing at least11:40
brendandolli, actually that's wrong - almost done11:40
olligreat, all bugs filed and such? what's left11:40
olli:)11:40
jibelolli, what's left: dashboard scope, HERE, tasks11:41
jibelthese are untested11:41
sil2100brendand: sure11:42
sil2100brendand: to both, or just the morning one?11:42
ogra_sil2100, oh, btw, what happened to the evening one ? i got canellation mails for today and tomorrow from kgunn11:43
sil2100ogra_: I think it was just kgunn cancelling his attendence11:43
ogra_ok11:44
ogra_i assumed it was by accident but it looked like the whole event was cancelled11:44
ogra_probably just gcal being weird though11:44
ogra_oh look !11:46
ogra_we have a full test run of 10911:46
ogra_http://dashboard.ubuntu-ci:8080/smokeng/utopic/touch_stable/krillin/109:20141016:20141014-acf0142/583/11:47
ogra_psivaa, awesome !11:47
ogra_wow, UITK looks really bad in that11:47
ogra_(as does calculator)11:47
psivaaogra_: lots of apparmor denials in the uitk ones11:49
ogra_oh11:49
ogra_bzoltan, are you aware of that ?11:49
ogra_hmm, these denials seems to be scopes related though11:51
ogra_oh, i see a lot of denials in my own syslog too ... though different ones (appy trying to access the QML cache)11:54
jdstrandwhat are the denials11:54
ogra_jdstrand, my own webapps trying to access ~/.cache/QML/11:54
jdstrandI imagine they are the known bugs for scopes. there are MPs but I don't think they've landed in rtm11:55
jdstrandah11:55
jdstrandthat is harmless11:55
ogra_Oct 16 13:06:04 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 3911.060389]type=1400 audit(1413457564.510:177): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="com.ubuntu.developer.ogra.golem-de_golem-de_0.3" name="/home/phablet/.cache/QML/Apps/" pid=27015 comm="webapp-containe" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=3201111:55
jdstrandbug #138162011:55
ubot5bug 1381620 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "apparmor read denial on ~/.cache/QML/Apps/" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138162011:55
sil2100brendand_, jibel: hey, so... regarding bug #1379296 again11:55
ubot5bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu RTM) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137929611:55
sil2100brendand_, jibel: how you would personally assess this? Is it a definite blocker in your opinion? How hard is it to reproduce?11:56
ogra_jdstrand, ah, thanks i thought i'm missing some new framework definition :)11:56
ogra_the apps need updating anyway11:56
* jdstrand nods11:56
brendand_sil2100, did you add jibel to the meeting?11:56
sil2100Saviq: re the fix for the bug above ^ I saw the code and it seems uninvasive - do you think it can be regression-prone?11:57
jdstrandric mm said that it is just a noisy harmless denial with the way that qtdeclarative-opensource-src is looking around for stuff. it handles the failure and moves on without problem11:57
Saviqsil2100, no, it's safe11:57
sil2100ogra_: btw. someone indeed cancelled todays meeting, hmmm11:58
sil2100brendand_: added to all evening ones11:58
jibelsil2100, I asked rhuddie to find test cases and the conditions to reproduce this issue and have data to decide if it's a blocker or not.11:58
ogra_sil2100, ah, so gcal wasnt lying11:58
sil2100jibel: ok, great, since if this is a blocking issue then as per what Victor said we might release silo 12, kick 110 and then only test the delta for this image11:59
brendand_sil2100, cancelled?11:59
ogra_sil2100, did you notice above ... we have a rootfs for 110 (but no system image) ... if we'd do a rebuild we'd need to let 110 out too11:59
sil2100brendand_: not sure who, it's not on my calendar for today11:59
sil2100ogra_: hm... what does that rootfs for 110 have btw.?11:59
ogra_let me check11:59
ogra_shouldnt have anything11:59
sil2100Ghost images12:00
ogra_http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/20141016.1.changes12:00
ogra_same as 109 :)12:00
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* Mirv back12:28
sil2100Mirv: o/12:28
sil2100brendand_, jibel: could you guys check bug LP: #1381857 and see if you agree with the rationale in the comments there?12:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1381857 in The Webapps-core project "facebook web app is closed when the phone is locked" [Critical,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138185712:34
brendand_sil2100, ah so this ties in with a similar issue i found12:35
brendand_sil2100, which is that if you have no account and no connection then the apps close after a bit if you try to open them12:36
brendand_sil2100, which is dumb12:36
brendand_sil2100, no feedback to the user or anything12:36
dpmogra_, sorry for the delay. On Reminders: so what happened is that last Friday the version containing the account plugin changes was already pushed to the store by mistake. Which means that unfortunately for a few days it was broken (but only for newly created accounts, which is probably why no one noticed it), but it also means that we didn't need to push a version to the store yesterday, so we decided not to do it12:44
dpmogra_, in summary, it should be all good now12:44
ogra_ah, awesome12:45
* ogra_ doesnt care about the past :) 12:45
ogra_i only noticed that there was no click update in any image we had12:45
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sil2100Saviq: so bug #1381871 is not triggered from the system-settings?13:08
ubot5bug 1381871 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "[wizard] volume notification showing up during wizard (with volume as 0)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138187113:09
Saviqsil2100, see ubuntu-unity, there's a fix comin'13:09
cjwatsonPassing on from another channel: how terrible would it be if there were ppa.launchpad.net downtime this weekend?  Or next?13:17
cjwatsonIt's weeks away from running out of disk space13:17
ogra_assuming we'll all travel ...13:17
ogra_or most of us at least13:17
sil2100I think this weekend or the next seem ok, since as ogra_ mentioned most of us will be in travel, so at least from our side we should be safe13:20
sil2100Just we don't want to be left without PPA's during the sprint ;)13:20
ogra_better this than next ... seems easier to  communicate issues we may find afterwards when we're face to face13:20
cjwatsonI don't think that will be an issue either way really, it's just a disk expansion13:21
cjwatsonAnd yeah, it definitely won't be during the working week13:21
sil2100tvoss, lool: hey guys, wanted to poke about the status of silo 004 - were you able to get that fixed?13:22
tvosssil2100, nope, not reliably13:23
tvosssil2100, would be great to keep the silo, though13:23
ogra_sil2100, we might think about 23 though13:23
ogra_(interesting that this didnt come up in testing either)13:25
ogra_hey13:26
ogra_there we go13:26
ogra_https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/indicator-sound/lp1381871/+merge/23855513:26
ogra_thats what i call quick :)13:26
sil2100Yep :)13:26
sil2100We saw that coming in -unity13:27
ogra_ah13:27
ogra_yeah, i got to many channels already :)13:27
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popeybzoltan: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=landing-013 - the qtorganizer5-eds fix for bug 1311165 - any idea when it will land?13:33
ubot5bug 1311165 in qtorganizer5-eds (Ubuntu) "timezone incorrectly modified when editing/creating google calendar event" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131116513:33
ogra_after the milestone :)13:34
bzoltanpopey:  that is next in the queue i assume.13:34
bzoltanogra_: popey: after the amnesty13:34
popeyso tomorrow?13:34
ogra_perhaps13:35
popeyok, thanks13:35
ogra_perhaps even later this evening ... really depends how long the milestone still takes13:35
bzoltanpopey: I just updated the laning branch, it builds now. i will start the testing process in few hours and if we are lucky it will be ready in 12 hours.13:35
* popey would really love to see it land13:35
popeyyou know, calendars are pesky things! silly timezones13:35
popeyeveryone should just move to UTC13:35
bzoltanpopey: you are not the only one13:35
cjwatsonit seems that we forgot to turn import-images back on last night13:36
cjwatsonany reason we shouldn't do so?13:36
ogra_cjwatson, we have some rootfs that wasnt published yet13:36
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ogra_cjwatson, we possibly have to build another image soon so i didnnt bother to turn it back on yet13:36
ogra_(i'm aware it is off but doesnt do harm either)13:36
bzoltanpopey:  look at the changelog of that UITK release candidate -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8573976/ 13 bug fixes... most of them critical and rtm1413:37
popey\o/13:37
popeythanks bzoltan13:37
bzoltanpopey:  no probs ... fingers crossed :)13:38
cjwatsonogra_: yes it does, it's blocking ubuntu-core images13:39
cjwatsonyou guys aren't the only user :)13:39
ogra_right, just saw the other channel13:39
ogra_yeah, forgot about that13:39
ogra_turn it back on then13:39
ogra_sil2100, ignore 110 :)13:39
cjwatsonreenabled, thanks13:39
ogra_(teh bot will soon annouonce it)13:39
brendand_sil2100, so are we having the landing meeting?13:40
sil2100brendand_: yeah, just need to re-add that somehow, but now in meetings13:40
ogra_brendand_, kgunn was a bit optimistic and removed it for all of us :)13:41
ogra_brendand_, is anyone QAing silo 012 already ?13:45
ogra_might be good to have ready what we can13:45
sil2100ogra_: I think brendand_ is still doing promotion testing13:48
ogra_oh13:48
sil2100brendand_, jibel: how far are you in promotion testing?13:48
jibelogra_, we are finishing a test case to reproduce it and rhuddie will start testing silo1213:48
ogra_cool13:48
sil2100\o/13:48
jibeljust in case13:48
* ogra_ taps foot watching silo 15 ... 13:48
* sil2100 goes fix the calendar13:48
ogra_how can such a small indicator build so long !13:49
sil2100;)13:49
sil2100ogra_, brendand_: ok, added it to the calendar back13:52
cyphermoxjibel: can you tell me more about the issue with wifi not coming back up after flight mode?13:52
ogra_sil2100, great !13:52
ogra_sil2100, so whats the final plan ? we land the two silos and re-spin ... ? i assume iif we do that we dont wait for a full test run then ?13:52
brendand_ogra_, we want to land 15?13:53
ogra_brendand_, thats what i understood13:54
brendand_ogra_, ah that's the wizard issue right?13:54
ogra_yeah13:54
ogra_three line change13:54
jibelcyphermox, turn flightmode on, wait until you've no signal on cellular and wifi, turn it back off. Sometimes Wifi doesn't come back (list of AP is empty)13:55
brendand_ogra_, ok whenever it's ready13:55
kgunnogra_: sorry13:55
cyphermoxjibel: how long have you waited to reproduce the bug for things to maybe show up?13:55
ogra_kgunn, np :)13:56
kgunnogra_: i'll get msm to add it back13:56
ogra_kgunn, sil2100 did already13:56
kgunnah...13:56
cyphermoxjibel: I'll do some more testing, I believe you, I just want to make really sure it's not "normal" delays for scanning time13:56
jibelcyphermox, precisely I don't know, maybe 1 minute13:56
cyphermoxjibel: alright13:58
cyphermoxthanks!13:58
jibelcyphermox, 2 min and the list is still empty13:59
cyphermoxgreat13:59
* ogra_ sneds some wifi waves fance-wards13:59
ogra_*france13:59
cyphermoxjibel, if you currently have it reproduced, could you login with adb and run 'nmcli dev wifi list' ?13:59
cyphermoxjibel: could it be because you haven't set your phone to french as we all should?14:00
cyphermox:D14:00
ogra_azerty14:01
ogra_...14:01
jibelcyphermox, nmcli shows the list of AP14:01
cyphermoxwonderful :)14:01
cyphermoxjibel: did you file a bug already about this?14:01
jibelcyphermox, but the list is still empty on the indicator14:01
jibelcyphermox, not yet14:01
cyphermoxok14:01
john-mcaleelyincoming email from olli14:03
john-mcaleelyI see that I now need to make sure device tarball for silo5 lands14:03
ogra_john-mcaleely, err ?14:05
ogra_i thought we were limited to the two fixes14:05
ogra_device tarball souand like a lot more re-testing work14:05
ogra_*sounds14:05
john-mcaleelyogra_, that's not my reading of the mail. Happy to be corrected :-)14:05
john-mcaleely(I agree it's lots more testing)14:05
ogra_well, i dotn have that mail because our management likes to bkeep everything secret :P14:06
ogra_(or my mail is broken :p )14:06
ogra_this constant lack of information is really annoying14:07
sil2100ogra_: soooo14:07
sil2100ogra_: the plan is, we add the 2 silos for sure14:07
ogra_ok14:08
ogra_sil2100, 005 sounds scary though14:08
sil2100Then, as I have been asked about that, we'll try to squeeze in a few other silos that management thinks are important but didn't make it14:08
ogra_who decides the importance ?14:08
sil2100And if we able to achieve that, we kick a new image and then hand over to QA14:08
ogra_also that means we'll have to stay frozen for another night14:09
sil2100ogra_: basically pmcgowan, victorp and olli - but the silos they proposed seem sane14:09
john-mcaleelyogra_, phablet@14:09
ogra_sil2100, well, i know that my team is eager to get their already tested silos landed (005 is in that list too)14:09
olliogra_, do you want me to call you and read it ;)14:09
sil2100Yeah, the recommendation is to stay frozen till we get an assesment from QA on the new image ;/14:09
sil2100ogra_: sure, that's on the list ;)14:09
ollior are you no on @Phablet14:10
ogra_olli, no, sorry14:10
ogra_my mail seems to be slow14:10
* olli hasn't heard any comments about communication then14:10
olli;)14:10
ogra_and sorry for being so grumpy ... lack of sleep and all :)14:10
john-mcaleelysil2100, one twist on landing silo 5. I'm in the air tomorrow.14:10
john-mcaleelysil2100, back online, in the US timezone 5pm.14:11
john-mcaleelysil2100, so I think silo5 is today or not at all14:11
sil2100john-mcaleely: ah, right, since it requires a device tarball, right?14:11
john-mcaleelysil2100, it does. You do already have the tarball, tested on #106 if I remember14:11
pmcgowansil2100, john-mcaleely  if silo 5 is too risky then lets drop it14:11
ogra_ChickenCutlass, ^^^^ so if you want stuff landed (since we will likely still stay frozen til tommorrow) you need to get approval from pat, olli or victor14:12
ogra_i know you have high interest to get more in14:12
ChickenCutlassogra_: yeah I spoke with pmcgowan14:12
ogra_ah, perfect14:12
john-mcaleelypmcgowan, not so much risky, as needing qa time & care in landing14:12
ogra_:)14:12
sil2100ogra_: check the e-mail for the silos that we proposed14:12
ogra_sil2100, if it only would hit my inbox, damned14:12
john-mcaleely(needs dual rootfs & device tarball at the same time, otherwise, regressions)14:12
sil2100Well, anyway first priority have the two blockerz14:12
john-mcaleely(the code isn't risky, I guess the landing might be)14:13
ogra_yeah14:13
john-mcaleelysil2100, I'm here all night, as they say :-)14:13
john-mcaleelyagree, blockerz first14:13
ogra_ha, got it14:13
jibelcyphermox, bug 138207114:13
ubot5bug 1382071 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "List of access points is empty after turning flightmode on and back off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138207114:13
cyphermoxjibel: thanks!14:15
rsalvetiogra_: ChickenCutlass: did we evaluate landing rtm 6?14:19
rsalvetithe fix is minimal, and fix an important issue14:19
rsalvetirtm 5 is not risky, but yeah, needs coordination14:20
rsalvetisil2100: guess question for you as well ^14:21
sil2100So I would first land the two blocker fixes, then try the ones that are less risky - so 5 and I also got informed that 8, even though touching a lot of components, in the end is safe14:22
ChickenCutlassrsalveti: yes 6 is on the list14:22
rsalvetigreat14:23
ChickenCutlassrsalveti: so 6, 5 and 16 on the list14:23
rsalvetiI know 5 and 6 are both safe14:23
rsalveti16 not so safe, but desired as well14:23
rsalvetijust because of the amount of components that 16 got14:24
cwaynedoes 5 still need to coordinate with a device tarball landing?14:24
rsalveticwayne: yes14:24
sil2100Ok, so 5 is safish - could you overview again how we need this coordinated? We need a device tarball AFTER publishing the silo?14:24
rsalvetisil2100: yes14:26
ogra_rsalveti, 5 might not be risky but device tarball QAing takes extra time14:29
ogra_sil2100, we can drive the image builder in a way that we land device at the same time14:29
sil2100ogra_: ah, right - the thing you wanted to do last night righ?14:30
ogra_yeah14:30
ogra_well, for now i'm waiting for 110 to pop out of the importer :P14:30
sil2100That takes a while!14:31
ogra_well it is 30min in ...14:31
ogra_should be 15min more in max ... (though it does ubuntu-core too currently)14:31
plarssil2100: ogra_: not going to be able to make the landing call today, have a doctor appointment. If you need anything though let me know and I'll be back about an hour after14:33
sil2100plars: hey! So, did anyone poke you about removing the terminal and filemanager tests from krillin ubuntu-rtm smoktesting?14:33
ogra_good luck then14:33
slangasekogra_: hmm, no one had mentioned to me that rootfs builds should be turned off14:34
ogra_slangasek, well, importer was off ... i would always turn off both ... no issue though14:34
plarssil2100: psivaa mentioned they were coming out of the image, but I don't know when14:35
plarssil2100: just rtm or utopic also?14:35
ogra_plars, they are gon since 10914:35
ogra_plars, only on krillin rtm14:35
plarsoh, that might be trickier to remove it just on rtm and just on krillin... I'll have to take a look in a bit14:36
ogra_:)14:36
ogra_plars, they are just failing gracefully atm ... (and taint the statistics a bit ... )  no hurry i guess ... it isnt like they block anything14:37
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sil2100Grrr, stupid spreadsheet14:45
sil2100brendand_, jibel: is the QA promotion testing over?14:49
sil2100i.e. can we poke you about silo 12 and silo 15?14:49
jibelsil2100, yes, we moved to silo testing14:50
sil2100jibel: excellent - I just re-tested silo 15 as well so it's also ready for QA14:50
sil2100Thanks guys :)14:50
brendand_sil2100, i'm ready for 15 now14:51
sil2100ogra_: what do you think about us building a new image after just landing silo 15 and 12, then trying to land some of the additional silos and kicking the final one?14:51
sil2100ogra_: as asac also mentioned, this way we'll be super safe, with as safe fail-back14:51
ogra_sil2100, sounds perfect14:51
sil2100And I don't think we'll loose that much time as silo testing anyway takes time14:51
sil2100So we don't leave system image idle ;p14:52
pmcgowansil2100, +114:53
ogra_sil2100, that will make slangasek happy :D14:53
rhuddiesil2100, jibel, on silo 12, I am still seeing unity8-dash being killed in /var/log/syslog: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8574310/14:54
slangasekyesyesyes14:54
ogra_rhuddie, thats not killing, it says "selected to kill" but at the same second it also selected other bits with an 802 score14:55
ogra_rhuddie, do you see it being killed *on the screen* ?14:56
rhuddieogra_, ah ok, I've not seen it on the screen, no14:56
ogra_then we are fine14:56
rhuddieogra_ I'll carry on with testing :)14:57
ogra_it should kill the dash eventually ... if there is really no other chance ... thats what the 500 score achieves (still leaves the system alone even if you overrun the memory havily)14:57
ogra_in 99.9% of cases there will be other stuff with 800 score to kill first though14:58
ogra_ricmm, is there something we could do about the message so people dont think things that are selected are really killed ?14:58
ricmmogra_: I dont think users will be looking at the syslog all the time15:00
ricmmand those who will should know that the message is iterting over the candidates to select15:00
ogra_ricmm, right15:00
ogra_k15:00
ricmmI mean if its just an issue with the QA team, its not worth hiding15:00
ricmmbecause we might need it when its a real issue :)15:01
sil2100rhuddie: thanks :)15:04
bregmatrainguards, I could use a priority silo assignment for line 87 so I can meet Ubuntu final freeze with some last-minute bugfixes in desktop Unity, if you please....15:04
sil2100bregma: ACK!15:05
sil2100Let me take a look at that quickly15:05
sil2100bregma: ok, assigning a silo15:06
sil2100bregma: silo 001 for you it seems!15:07
ogra_so i just got a notification for 11015:07
* bregma parties like he's silo #115:07
ogra_oh, the bot is gone !15:07
ogra_http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/110.changes15:10
ogra_(empty anyway)15:10
* sil2100 chokes the bot15:11
sil2100bregma: in case we miss it getting set to ready to release, feel free to pinging me directly and I'll publish15:11
ogra_yeah, it thought it was online so sent the announcement to ether ...15:11
sil2100Since I guess it's important :)15:11
bregmasil2100, do you plan to sleep at all in the next 72 hours?15:13
sil2100Sleep? What's that?15:13
sil2100The only sleep I know is sleep(number);15:13
ogra_bregma, landing team members dont do that sleep thing15:14
ogra_sleep is evil ... we use upstart !15:15
sil2100brendand_, rhuddie: thanks for picking up the important silos guys :)15:15
ogra_++15:15
sil2100ogra_: ;p15:16
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brendand_sil2100, 15 signed off15:39
sil2100\o/15:40
sil2100!!15:40
sil2100brendand_: thanks15:40
sil2100Ok, first one off the list15:40
sil2100brendand_: can you pick up now one of the safe silos from the list? Maybe silo 6, as I heard it's safe15:44
sil2100(and touches only one component)15:44
sil2100brendand_: even it it gets signed off, I won't publish it until we get an image built with the blocker fixes only15:45
brendand_sil2100, right maybe start with that15:45
sil2100brendand_: but no haste, maybe relax a bit before that, get some tea/coffee/food15:45
bregmabah, my amd64 build failed with a bad-block error trying to write from all threads, any chance someone with magic powers could restart it? https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-001/+build/646631115:46
brendand_sil2100, i'll get one more under my belt then i kind of need to EOD15:46
sil2100bregma: doing!15:46
brendand_after the landing meeting15:46
sil2100brendand_: ACK!15:46
ogra_wohooo15:46
ogra_yay15:52
ogra_hmm, did i drop ?16:04
bzoltanogra_:  out of curiosity :) have you changed anything in the image what could break my testing script?16:13
ogra_bzoltan, nope16:13
ogra_bzoltan, but i noticed that we had 67 failures in UITK tzesting today on rtm16:13
bzoltanogra_:  OK, in that case it is just a normal failure... I try again16:13
bzoltanogra_: all false16:14
ogra_:)16:14
bzoltanogra_: http://people.canonical.com/~bzoltan/ap-2014_10_15-RTM-SILO15-KRILLIN/MAIN-ap-2014_10_15-SILO15-KRILLIN16:14
bzoltanogra_:  but true, that the AP tests become super unreliable since last Friday16:22
sil2100\o/16:23
ogra_bzoltan, well, changelogs are at http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/16:23
* sil2100 m&c in the meantime16:23
bzoltanogra_:  elopio: actually it was last Thursday when the least healthy autolanding happened on our staging .. since then the AP tests went crazy16:23
ogra_bzoltan, friday should be ~8016:23
elopiojibel or brendand_: can you please sort the trello cards in order of importance ?16:23
sil2100Mirv: you go to sleep now, save your strength for tomorrow16:23
ogra_++16:23
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elopiobzoltan: I haven't been able to look at the videos to see what might be going on.16:24
brendand_elopio, done16:24
elopiothanks16:24
Mirvsil2100: sure, I just wanted to know how are things :)16:24
brendand_elopio, we might do 5 before 8 though16:24
bzoltanelopio:  nothing with the UITK, that is for sure16:24
sil2100Mirv: thanks :)16:24
elopiobrendand_: I was about to take 5.16:25
brendand_elopio, i think we should do 8 first actually16:25
brendand_jibel, what do you think?16:25
sil2100Yeah, I would say first 6 and 8, since 6 has been done let's move on to 8 first16:25
sil2100Let me bring it up with the product team16:26
elopiotaking #8 then16:27
sil2100elopio: thank you :)16:28
bzoltanogra_: elopio: but for long time I do not use the CI dash as validation reference... because I am tasting against the latest image and that never has ready tests. So I first run the test plan on stock image and compare to it the silo results.16:28
imgbot=== trainguards: RTM IMAGE 111 building (started: 20141016 16:30) ===16:29
ogra_there16:29
ogra_:)16:30
jibelelopio, 8 then 516:45
elopiojibel: ack.16:49
elopiowho works on media hub? Is that jhodapp ?16:49
jhodappelopio, yes16:49
elopioI would like somebody to lock at this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/138189316:49
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1381893 in Media Hub "media-hub is consuming all the CPU with nothing running" [Undecided,New]16:49
jhodappelopio, yeah that's probably my next thing to look at16:50
elopiojhodapp: I'm not sure how to reproduce it or where to keep an eye during testing. Maybe you have some clues.16:50
jhodappelopio, can you reproduce it with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/138084816:50
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1380848 in Media Hub "Media-hub-service uses large amount of CPU after unity8 resets" [Undecided,New]16:50
elopiojhodapp: will try after finishing my current silo.16:52
jhodappelopio, cool thanks16:53
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ogra_sil2100, FYI 111 rootfs is done (in case you want to release any silos, it is safe now)17:13
sil2100ogra_: thanks!17:14
sil2100Let me move the machinery then17:14
* ogra_ makes a note to add a notification for that to the bot some day 17:14
sil2100Could be a feature, although not critical as I guess we require this rarely :)17:17
ogra_well, looking how noisy other bots in this channel are i feel like my bot lacks a bit :)17:18
sil2100ogra_, elopio, ToyKeeper: so, I would recommend that after the silo 8 gets finished testing, let's simply move on to silo 5 and the device tarball17:19
sil2100And basically (sadly) skip silo 1617:19
sil2100It's an important silo but it's not ready yet, so I would be less confident in landing that for such an important image17:20
sil2100ogra_: hah ;)17:20
ogra_:)17:20
ogra_yeah, sounds sane17:20
bzoltanogra_:  but actually the problem with the UITK tests came very recently http://people.canonical.com/~bzoltan/ap-2014_10_15-RTM-SILO15-KRILLIN/ap-2014_10_14-20_47_54-ubuntuuitoolkit-2-archive.tests17:28
bzoltanogra_:  so about 48 hours ago on the latest available stock image by then I got consistent clear UITK tests17:29
bzoltanelopio: ^17:29
ogra_bzoltan, well, then it mist be a change between 104 and 11117:30
ogra_http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/17:31
ogra_*must17:31
bzoltanogra_:  yes17:31
bzoltanogra_:  I will do the UITK tests on those images17:31
ogra_++17:31
ogra_105 had new mir17:32
slangasekbarry: ping17:33
barryslangasek: pong17:34
imgbot=== trainguards: RTM IMAGE 111 DONE (finished: 20141016 17:35) ===17:34
slangasekbarry: hi, so we noticed yesterday that bdmurray has some changes on lxc-android-config in utopic that should be included in 14.0917:34
imgbot=== changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/111.changes ===17:34
slangasekbarry: the package can't be a sync, there are other changes on there that are tied up with an lxc update17:35
ogra_sweeet !!17:35
ogra_sil2100, ^^17:35
ogra_111 DONE !17:35
* ogra_ loves changelogs like this 17:35
sil2100Yay :)17:35
slangasekbarry: bdmurray is not a lander currently - could you help him with the landing process?  He'll need to prep a source package and get it in as a line in the spreadsheet targeted to rtm17:36
barryslangasek, bdmurray for sure.  i'm going to take a short break for lunch, but bdmurray just ping me when you have a merge proposal ready17:36
slangasekbarry: (since lxc-android-config doesn't do branch landings; I guess it usually is direct archive uploads, but that doesn't work here because rtm is still in landing freeze)17:36
ogra_wow, the delta from 110 to 111 is actually 3MB17:37
slangasekbarry: not an MP, a source package17:37
slangasek3MB in which direction?17:37
ogra_download shown on my phone17:37
barryslangasek: hmm, okay.  i'm not totally up on that procedure, but i'll try to help figure it out17:37
slangasekogra_: oh :)17:37
ogra_:)17:37
ogra_well, that matches the three packages in the changelog17:37
slangasekbarry: column F left blank, fill in column G, upload directly to the silo once assigned17:37
sergiusensslangasek: barry it would also need a version 'branching'17:38
ogra_sergiusens, not really17:39
ogra_we cant use lxc-android-config from utopic anymore anyway17:39
sergiusensogra_: won't it conflict with utopic in the long run as they are not par on par17:39
ogra_important is oonly that the source package gets pulled from rtm when changing it17:39
slangasekit does need a unique version number17:39
ogra_sergiusens, we wont be able to sync them17:39
sergiusensogra_: exactly; PES practices are to "version" branch when differing from what's in the archive to make it easy to spot in the future17:40
ogra_slangasek, why ? its a distinct archive and completely differnt distro17:40
slangasekbdmurray, barry: oh, please note that there's already a version of lxc-android-config pending landing, with lool's change; so the next version should be stacked on this: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=lxc17:40
slangasekogra_: because it's *not* a completely different distro, it's a derived distro, and just like we use ubuntu suffixes to be able to talk about Debian vs. Ubuntu packages without confusion, we should use rtm suffixes to avoid ubuntu vs. ubuntu-rtm confusion17:41
ogra_except for human readability (and the ability to distinguish between the packages) there shouldnt be any need to match or non match the versions17:41
slangasekyes, and human readability is *very important* :)17:41
ogra_ok17:41
ogra_that i understand :)17:41
loolbdmurray, barry, slangasek: note that you can't land hte change from silo 4 without the other changes, so if you can land before silo 4, you want to ping us and we would have to merge your change in our silo17:41
* ogra_ thought there was a technical reason 17:41
loolcurrent status is that some fixes are ready and another large change should help with stability some more and hopefully fix remaining issues17:42
* ogra_ hugs image 111 ... non crashing dash :) 17:42
slangaseklool: ok, so your silo 004 isn't ready to land yet?17:42
ogra_slangasek, yep17:42
slangaseklool: I don't think there's any hurry on this particular lxc-android-config change ... it may be simpler if we wait17:42
loolslangasek: it's not17:42
bdmurrayslangasek: my lxc-android-config change is only necessary for the new version of whoopsie which isn't in ubuntu-rtm yet17:43
slangasekbdmurray: right17:43
ogra_welll17:43
slangasekbdmurray: which, well, also means that we probably want to land whoopsie+lxc-android-config together17:43
ogra_you could probably prepare a silo with both then :)17:43
barryslangasek, bdmurray why not try to fold your changes into lool's branch and reconfigure silo 417:43
barry?17:43
slangasekbecause they're unrelated and folding unrelated changes into a single silo causes a geometric increase in the time it takes to land? :)17:44
loolbarry: well, if it's needed in rtm, then you dont want to block on another fix/feature (silo 4); otherwise silo 4 will become the black hole of all changes, absorbing each proposed upload  ;-)17:44
ogra_lool, well, you have to fix your stuff at some point too i guess :)17:45
slangaseklool: it's a soft requirement to have this in rtm... it's not product milestone driven17:45
ogra_so that it will land17:45
barryok, you guys know best17:45
sil2100Well, I would leave silo 4 for now17:46
ogra_sil2100, right ... the question was if we want to stack new lxc-android-config on top or just land the fix and lool has to re-merge lxc-android-config17:47
rsalvetisil2100: trying to create a silo for line 83 but it failed17:50
sil2100rsalveti: hm, let me look17:51
rsalvetiI tried first without specifying any distro, which of course failed17:51
rsalvetibut now it seems I can't request it anymore17:51
sil2100rsalveti: you need to remove the UID17:52
sil2100(column number M)17:52
rsalvetisil2100: just delete?17:52
sil2100rsalveti: yeah, and try re-assigning - it normally gets cleaned up automatically in around 5 minutes, but you can just remove and reassign17:52
loologra_: right now silo 4 is still a bunch of hours away from landing, so if you need a lxc-android-config update, it's probably best to land it separately and I'd rebase silo 417:52
loolthe changes are fairly easy to move around17:53
sil2100Otherwise it thinks the silo is assigned17:53
sil2100(at least the assignment script)17:53
rsalvetisil2100: makes sense, lemme try17:53
* Ursinha is glad the hideous request_id thing is going away soon :)17:54
sergiusensUrsinha: how soon?17:57
Ursinhasergiusens: as soon as the spreadsheet replacement is in place, I'd guess 1 to 4 weeks from now18:05
bregmasil2100, my silo #1 has passed its tests, ready to publish, hopefully under the final freeze wire18:06
ogra_Ursinha, spreasheet replacement ? crazy talk ... how would the world work without spreadsheets !!!18:10
sil2100bregma: \o/18:11
sil2100Ursinha: :D \o/18:11
Ursinhaogra_: lol18:11
Ursinhaogra_: citrain can do without that at least :P18:11
* ogra_ hugs Ursinha 18:12
elopiosil2100: ogra_, rsalveti: silo 5 + the tarball tested.18:40
elopiotaking #818:41
ogra_whee !18:41
ogra_bah, sigh18:52
* ogra_ better waits for sil2100 to return then ... 18:52
sil2100!18:53
sil2100\o/18:53
elopiobfiller: sergiusens: so, unzip will now come preinstalled?18:53
ogra_sil2100, well, it waits for packaging ack ... and it struck me that we need john for th device tarball18:54
sil2100ogra_: so, if you lock everything in place, we can sms john-mcaleely's cell to get the device tarball out18:54
ogra_right18:54
sil2100ogra_: well, anyway, I guess we can publish 5 anyway now, right?18:55
bzoltanogra_:  the #104 has only three failures on the first run... I did not wait for the second run when it is usually gets zero.18:55
ogra_sil2100, yeah ... the packaging is fie brw18:56
sil2100ogra_: it's publishing :)18:56
ogra_yay18:56
rsalvetiso we need to publish it together with the device tarball18:57
rsalvetiogra_: are you taking care of that?18:57
rsalvetior do we need help from john-mcaleely18:57
ogra_rsalveti, we do, but he left his phone number for SMS18:57
sil2100ogra_, rsalveti: let's call him once we get 8 released18:57
ogra_right18:57
rsalvetigreat18:57
elopiosil2100: ogra_: can you give me a quick summary of why #8 is so important today?19:01
elopiofrom the spreadsheet, I see I should only try a compressed download, but I might be missing the important part.19:01
ogra_it was on the critical rtm14 list and tagged for 16th i understood19:01
sil2100elopio: it was said to be 'low risk', and it fixes a critical issue from our list19:02
elopiook, I guess.19:02
elopioogra_: sil2100: do you know how unzip will get installed?19:03
sil2100elopio: is it risky? I guess sergiusens can provide additional context if needed19:03
ogra_elopio, i would expect via a dependency19:03
ogra_right. sergiusens prepared that landing ... though it is a mandel  change i think19:04
elopiosil2100: doesn't seem risky.19:04
elopiommm, I see. If I try to download a zip file it will say that no app can open it.19:08
sergiusenselopio: what's up19:08
john-mcaleelyrsalveti, ogra_ not sure. do you need help?19:08
sergiusenselopio: only 7digital works19:08
sergiusenselopio: look at the webbrowser testplan19:08
john-mcaleely:-)19:08
ogra_john-mcaleely, we're waiting for silo 8 ... then we wanted to build an image19:09
ogra_how long did you plan to be around ?19:09
john-mcaleelyogra_, cool. I can come back on demand19:09
sergiusenselopio: unzip will get installed as udm depends on it, the citrain tool will not work correctly as it disables all repos19:09
john-mcaleelyI'm about to eat, so will be awol for a bit.19:09
john-mcaleelyis there an eta for silo8?19:10
elopiosergiusens: do you have a test account with purchased music?19:10
sergiusenselopio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/webbrowser-app  ("7 digital album downloads (if you don't have any albums you'll need to purchase one first")19:10
ogra_john-mcaleely, well, push away, i disabled the importer19:10
sergiusenselopio: no I don't have a test account19:10
john-mcaleelyogra_, ack19:10
john-mcaleelyogra_, firing up ssh now :-)19:10
ogra_:)19:10
elopioI will make one and update the test plan.19:11
sergiusenselopio: well, the reason there is no test account is because you need to make a purchase19:11
sergiusenselopio: so it needs credit/paypal or something19:12
john-mcaleelyogra_, sil2100 pushed/published/revealed/etc19:12
sergiusenselopio: I think charles has an account19:12
ogra_wheee19:12
john-mcaleelyok, I'll be along later to see it all landed safely. ping me if you need me (sms)19:15
sil2100\o/19:15
sil2100So now just 8 and we can kick the final image (tm)19:15
john-mcaleelyheh19:16
ogra_++19:17
elopiosergiusens: the download on the transfer indicator ssays "Unknown Download"19:25
sergiusenselopio: that's fine19:26
sergiusenselopio: can you talk to bfiller... I'm packing19:26
elopiosergiusens: I can. Have a good trip.19:27
sil2100elopio: is that some visual problem?19:29
elopiosil2100: well, it should display the name of the zip being downloaded.19:29
elopiobut it's probably not introduced by this silo. I'm flashing my mako to see what happens there.19:29
sil2100elopio: ok19:30
elopiothis successfully opens the music player, and plays the songs. Which is awesome.19:30
ToyKeeperOkay, one silo in progress, start building a "final" image, and then ... restart the massive test-everything plan?19:38
sil2100ToyKeeper: yes... but olli recommended to only try and test the delta, if possible19:38
ToyKeeperI'm going to need to find a lot more info about what changed since 109.19:39
ollioh, I think I said, it's QA's call19:39
ToyKeeperIt seems a lot happened while I was asleep.19:39
ollibut if it was me...19:39
sil2100Well, I would also prefer testing only the delta, but in this case the delta will be big anyways19:39
ToyKeeper"Just delta" is good though...  it seems that test plan takes like 12 to 16 hours otherwise.19:40
sil2100Since if something lands that is a low-level component, I think we need testing the components that are using it19:40
sil2100Oh my19:40
sil2100ToyKeeper: so, normally when davmor2 does promotion testing he does it in 4-6h, does he only do a subset every time?19:40
ToyKeeperI'm not sure now, but it must either be a subset or a different plan.19:41
sil2100I think he has a spreadsheet according to which he performs the testing19:41
elopiosil2100: we changed to this huge spreadsheet that jibel and rhuddie prepared.19:41
elopiowe don't need to run all the tests everytime. Well, we can't anyway.19:42
elopiowe will just update the results of the more important parts for each release. It will show how much we have tested and on which versions, so somebody can make a good decision about what to do with the latest release.19:42
elopioas this release is important, I guess ToyKeeper and myself will be testing everything we can until we hit the deadline.19:43
elopioolli: does it sound right?19:43
sil2100elopio: let's wait for olli to comment :)19:45
sil2100elopio: but anyway, and doubts regading silo 8?19:45
ollielopio, are you saying, incremental tests?19:48
ollijfunk, I think that should be your call19:48
* sil2100 would be happy enough if we get our candidate image today19:49
olliyeah19:49
ogra_define today :)19:49
jfunkolli: that's what I told them to do :)19:49
olliin any case, I think incremental testing on an image tha was tightly controlled / managed is feasible19:49
ogra_today.eu ... today.us ?19:49
jfunkust test the delta19:49
ogra_:)19:49
ollielopio, sil2100 ^19:50
ollijfunk and I are in agreement19:50
sil2100\o/19:50
ogra_so we just need silo 8 now :)19:50
sil2100Righto, so excited19:50
ToyKeeperI see bugs for silos 6, 12, and 15...  Bug #1379296, Bug #1381871, Bug #1376467.  What are the others?19:51
ubot5bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu RTM) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137929619:51
ubot5bug 1381871 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "[wizard] volume notification showing up during wizard (with volume as 0)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138187119:51
ubot5bug 1376467 in mediaplayer-app "can't playback a second video" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137646719:51
elopiosil2100: I was trying to download a big photo to see what happens.19:51
elopioit seems the unknown download is not specific to it. And the blinking on the bar happens only for the zip files.19:51
elopioso it has bugs, but probably nothing that should delay us even more.19:51
sil2100elopio: so it's not introduced by the silo then?19:51
elopiosil2100: the blinking it's introduced by the silo, as without the silo it's not possible to download the zip19:54
sil2100Anyway, just waiting for the final verdict19:54
sil2100Ah, the blinking - yes, but not the 'unknown download', right?19:54
elopiosil2100: no, that seems a different old issue, because I see it also with photos and without the silo.19:55
* sil2100 just checked the unzip dependency seems to be added to u-d-m19:55
sil2100Good to know19:55
elopioI will report both. And will approve the silo.19:55
sil2100Oh! :)19:56
sil2100Does it mean I can press publish?19:56
ogra_soo impatient :)19:57
sil2100Would love the build to start, and besides - my girlfriend needs to snatch me for some hours19:58
sil2100elopio: \o/19:58
sil2100elopio: really big thanks for the testing-under-pressure19:58
ogra_yay19:59
ogra_yeah, QA rocks !19:59
sil2100kenvandine: can you approve https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/content-hub/download-zip-integration/+merge/237764 ?19:59
sil2100kenvandine: top-approve that is19:59
sil2100As I see it's reviewed19:59
* sil2100 reviews the packaging diff20:02
kenvandinesil2100, sure!20:02
sil2100ogra_: if you want to double check, it's here: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-008-2-publish/34/artifact/packaging_changes_ubuntu-download-manager_0.9+14.10.20141014.1-0ubuntu1.diff20:02
ogra_looks fine20:02
sil2100ogra_: the only worrying thing are the removed silos, but I think those are some bs symbols anyway20:02
sil2100Like, redundant20:03
ogra_yep20:03
sil2100kenvandine: thanks!20:03
ogra_sil2100, removed silos ?20:03
sil2100...symbols20:03
ogra_you mean symbols, right ? :)20:03
sil2100...20:03
sil2100;)20:03
* sil2100 waits for top-approval20:03
kenvandinesil2100, done20:04
sergiusensah, I knew we would miss one20:05
sergiusenscheers20:05
kenvandinewoot20:05
ogra_yay20:05
sil2100\o/20:06
sil2100ogra_, olli, slangasek: ok, I go AFK for ~2h now, but I'll be back afterwards to check what's up20:07
ollisil2100, thx20:07
ollisil2100, I wasn't following 1 line status summary20:07
sil2100ogra_: if you could check rmadison and kicketh teh image once that happens, would be excellent20:07
ogra_sil2100, ok, i'll watch rmadison, kick a rootfs and later unleash system-image20:07
ogra_*snap* :)20:07
sil2100olli: I sent out a quick summary of the situation20:08
sil2100olli: and now I AFK for some time20:08
ogra_olli, its all waiting now ...20:08
sil2100All in all, we look good it seems, good for QA20:08
ogra_(and two commands from me at the right time)20:08
sil2100(once the image finishes)20:08
pmcgowansil2100, ogra_ how much landed?20:10
* pmcgowan checks email20:10
ogra_nearly everything that was planned for 101620:10
pmcgowanwow awesome20:10
ollisil2100, everybody: well done!20:11
olliogra_, this is a service announcement... ... "An important message will be sent to @phablet in a few minutes, please sharpen your email clients"20:12
olliscnr, thought this was funny20:12
ogra_LOL20:12
* ogra_ hugs olli 20:12
elopioolli: bug #1382216 and bug #138221820:21
ubot5bug 1382216 in ubuntu-download-manager "While downloading a zip file, the item on the transfer indicator blinks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138221620:21
ubot5bug 1382218 in Transfer Indicator "The label of some downloads is Unknown Download" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138221820:21
ollipmcgowan, ^20:22
pmcgowanwhile I am looking sergiusens  ^^^20:24
sergiusenspmcgowan: read, but need to go... I'll do a -> charles ^^20:25
sergiusensas it's indicator20:25
ogra_thats becoming a flowchart !20:25
elopioI'll go have lunch before it completes the circle :)20:26
ogra_heh20:26
brendandogra_, when's the new image out?20:27
ogra_brendand, 008 needs to completely land ...20:28
brendandogra_, so not for a few more hours?20:28
ogra_then i'll trigger a build (and will have to kick th system-image manually so it lands with the device tarballs20:28
ogra_yeah20:28
ogra_2h at least i'd say20:28
ogra_build started :)20:34
imgbot=== trainguards: RTM IMAGE 112 building (started: 20141016 20:40) ===20:39
charlessergiusens, :-)20:58
Elleocharles: with respect to the "Unknown Download" label one we're now setting the filename as the title on the download's metadata in the webbrowser (as of the 7digital stuff landing), so that might help there21:08
charlesElleo, Cool. I should be able to do a patch tonight... I'm flying out tomorrow morning and need to run a couple of errands during business hours21:19
Elleocharles: sure, no rush from my side, just thought I'd let you know about it :)21:21
charlesElleo, *nod*21:21
Elleocharles: I think at the moment we might only do it in the webbrowser if we explicitly get given a filename, so I might need to improve that a bit for cases where we need to parse the URL for a filename instead; but that shouldn't impact you (other than it not working absolutely everywhere)21:22
ollisil2100, ogra_, brendand, elopio, ToyKeeper, eod'ing call my cell if you need something21:30
ogra_olli, enjoy ...21:31
ToyKeeperolli: Have a good evening.  :)21:31
imgbot=== trainguards: RTM IMAGE 112 DONE (finished: 20141016 21:55) ===21:54
imgbot=== changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/112.changes ===21:54
ogra_\o/21:54
ogra_and on that note ... i'm off to bed21:55
rsalvetinice22:01
rsalvetienjoy :-)22:01
ToyKeeperWait, what?  That was a fast build...22:09
ToyKeeperOh, I guess not.  Time doesn't usually fly when I'm waiting for a pot to boil.22:09
sil2100\o/22:36
sil2100Thanks everyone, I guess it's all in ToyKeeper's and elopio's hands now!22:43
ToyKeepersil2100: Bad news.  Another first-minute feature is broken.22:51
ToyKeeperThe edge tutorial fails when pulling down the top edge.  :(22:51
ToyKeeperBug #138226723:07
ubot5bug 1382267 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "edges intro fails on rtm krillin 112" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138226723:07
sil2100ToyKeeper: ouch, was that working on 109?23:14
ToyKeeperYes, worked fine in 109.23:14
sil2100Crap23:15
sil2100I wonder which landing broke it, hmm23:15
sil2100ToyKeeper: is it reproducible?23:15
ToyKeepersil2100: Yes, it is.23:15
sil2100After a reboot I assume? Damn, maybe kgunn can find someone to take a quick look23:16
kgunnsil2100: ToyKeeper what landed in the meantime ?23:17
kgunnthat's a unity thing....and a _lot_ of folks are traveling23:17
kgunnalready23:17
ToyKeeperI'm not sure if it failed on 111...  but it worked in 109.23:17
sil2100kgunn: so its this:23:17
sil2100http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-rtm/111.commitlog23:17
sil2100and23:18
sil2100http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-rtm/112.commitlog23:18
ToyKeeperYow, huge change set in 112.23:18
sil2100Damn, commitlogs broken again23:18
sil2100ToyKeeper: it was just 3 landings, but one of them was big23:18
sil2100ToyKeeper: hm, could you give me the steps to reproduce?23:19
sil2100I'll flash 111 and check if it's b0rken there23:19
ToyKeepersil2100: I'm already flashing 111.23:19
sil2100Ah, ACK :)23:20
ToyKeepersil2100: The steps are really simple though...  just do what the edge tutorial says to do, and it fails after the step about pulling down from the top.23:20
kgunnToyKeeper: sil2100 ....if i'm just guessing, i'd finger 111, it only landed qtmir...i'll be interested to hear your findings ToyKeeper23:20
ToyKeepersil2100: Could you perhaps check 110?23:20
sil2100ToyKeeper: 110 has no changes in it23:21
ToyKeeperOh, hmm.23:21
sil2100ToyKeeper: it was a build triggered automatically by accident ;)23:21
sil2100Due to not all system-image bits being disabled23:21
sil2100kgunn: yeah, 111 is only qtmir and indicator-sound23:22
kgunnracarr: hey you on?23:24
kgunnso we're highly suspicious of qtmir landing in image 111....seems to break the "Edge demo" tutorial in thebeginning23:25
kgunni see only 4 commits to qtmir for 10/1323:25
kgunni'm guessing that's what landed here23:25
kgunnsil2100: ^ would that be correct....prolly landed on utopic 10/13 then took that long to land in rtm23:25
popeyubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed #94 - unity8 crash on start23:26
popeyon mako23:26
* kgunn remembers now camako said Saviq forked qtmir briefly...23:26
popeywheee, 3 apports on my mako23:26
sil2100kgunn: damn... if that'll be true, then we have no choice but to fix that23:26
popeyunity8 media-hub and maliit23:26
sil2100A revert would mean we bring back a blocker23:27
sil2100popey: ouch...23:27
ToyKeeperOkay, broken in 111 too.23:27
* sil2100 sighs23:29
sil2100Saviq: ^23:29
sil2100kgunn: Saviq is in travel now?23:29
Saviqsil2100, not yet23:29
kgunnyes23:29
kgunnoh..maybe not23:29
sil2100uh, heeey23:29
sil2100I didn't WANT you to answer ;p23:29
popeysame on my nexus 723:29
kgunnSaviq: i'm thinking it's racarr's commit that prolly needs revert23:29
sil2100Just wanted to know if you're around tomorrow23:29
Saviqsil2100, kgunn, I'm thinking the edge demo did not get updated for the new indicators23:29
* Saviq tries23:30
ToyKeeperSaviq: It worked in 109, and 109 had the new-style indicators.23:30
kgunndude it's seriously late23:30
Saviqoh23:30
Saviqkgunn, it's *early*23:30
kgunnlol23:30
kgunnone way to look at it23:30
sil2100Saviq: really, no use in you working so late23:30
popeywell, my crash was uploaded apparently23:30
sil2100We appreciate, but we don't want a half-asleep Saviq in the morning23:31
sil2100popey: hm, was that like the latest ubuntu-rtm for mako/flo ?23:31
Saviqsil2100, I'll be half-asleep no problem, flying in 4h23:31
ToyKeeperRegardless, I'm going to check for anything else we might care about.23:32
ToyKeeper... as soon as the reflash is done.23:32
Saviqsil2100, kgunn, there's only two qtmir commits that went in... I don't see how they can be related23:32
ToyKeeperIf we can make a 113 with the tutorial fixed, awesome.23:33
sil2100The indicator-sound upload shouldn't matter23:33
sil2100Saviq: oh, so early?23:33
Saviqsil2100, yeah23:33
ToyKeeperI don't leave for another 48 hours or so...  but then, I'm also showing up last-minute.23:34
sil2100I'm flying on Sunday23:34
ToyKeepers/48 hours/72 hours/  ... I can count, really.23:35
Saviqsil2100, I'm trying to cram up some sightseeing on the weekend23:36
Saviqsil2100, the weekend after I'm in BOS so that's the only chance23:36
sil2100Ah, ok, makes sense :)23:37
sil2100ToyKeeper: so, please continue for now, let's just report all findings to olli and all the others in the end23:38
sil2100kgunn, Saviq: thanks for the fast reaction23:38
Saviqsil2100, just flashed 109 to check23:38
sil2100But I think I need to go to sleep now, staying late twice in a row is bad23:39
sil2100And my girl will certainly kill me23:39
popeysil2100: it worked previously23:39
popeysil2100: just updated to latest (94) and it broke.23:39
popeysil2100: i can flash back to #93 to prove that if you want23:39
SaviqToyKeeper, just flashed 109, after pulling indicators down I don't get the next step23:39
Saviqthe only explanation is the new indicators, really23:40
sil2100popey: if you could double-confirm then it would be great, we'll have to sort this out once we get through with krillin for this week23:40
popeysure thing23:40
popeydoing now23:40
ToyKeeperGreat.  Then I wonder how long it has been failing, or if there's a race condition.23:40
sil2100Saviq: oh23:40
sil2100Ok, since I thought it was working fine on 10923:40
sil2100Anyway, I suppose it might not be considered as a total blocker... but let's leave it up to the product managers to decide23:41
sil2100Good night everyone!23:41
popeynn23:41
SaviqToyKeeper, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8576500/23:50
Saviqkgunn, ↓23:50
Saviq↑↑ even23:50
kgunnhehe23:50
kgunnSaviq: should i just mp it on qtmir rtm23:51
ToyKeeperSaviq: That's surprisingly short.23:51
kgunnor sorry unity8 rtm23:52
Saviqkgunn, it's a very naive fix, but seems to work23:52
SaviqToyKeeper, yeah, the whole problem was that you just couldn't see the step, because it tried to anchor to a non-existing (any more) object23:52
racarrkgunn: Hey!23:55
racarrkgunn: Sorry wasnt watching this channel23:55
kgunnracarr: np, you're cool....23:55
Saviqkgunn, from a 2am look at the thing, it should Just Work, so MP it against lp:unity8/rtm-14.09 and it'll get tested, whether same silo, your call23:55
kgunnended up being a small chagne in edge demo code23:55
* Saviq needs to finish up packing and get some sleep23:55
racarrkgunn: Ok great :)23:56
kgunnSaviq: ack...will do the needful23:56
Saviqsee you all there! o/23:56
kgunno/23:56
racarrCya!23:56

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