| dkessel | hey there quality | 12:00 |
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| === _salem is now known as salem_ | ||
| elfy | hi dkessel | 12:10 |
| balloons | good morning all | 13:30 |
| elfy | hi balloons | 13:31 |
| balloons | I beginning to wonder if it's just me that has issues with hard drives. My new drive containing /home failed yesterday | 13:32 |
| elfy | :| | 13:32 |
| balloons | I'm beginning to wonder if I need to replace cables again or something | 13:32 |
| pitti | balloons: if it's any consolation, I also got tons of scary "ata1:" error messages with following oopses/freezes/fs corruption yesterday :/ | 13:46 |
| pitti | I wonder if that's actually a hw problem or a kernel bug | 13:46 |
| balloons | pitti, hmm, that's kind of coincidental | 13:49 |
| * balloons replaced the cables | 13:49 | |
| * dkessel wonders "should i really use utopic on my real hardware at home at this point"? | 14:01 | |
| dkessel | i should really do that backup i am postponing every week... | 14:01 |
| charles | alesage, elopio, now that I've seen the new indicator navigation in action, you do have a point about the visibility question: | 14:04 |
| charles | alesage, elopio, the definition of "visibility" has changed, so we're talking about two separate things here | 14:04 |
| charles | alesage, elopio, the idea is for the transfer, location, message, bluetooth indicators to not be shown in the top icon bar when they don't have anything in them | 14:05 |
| charles | alesage, elopio, but they should *always* be visible in the new indicator navigation regardless of their visibility in the top icon bar | 14:05 |
| charles | alesage, elopio, so the new navigation (which IMO is very cool!) has a bug there, it should ignore the indicators' visibility flags and use them unconditionally | 14:06 |
| charles | I'm not seeing an existing bug report on this yet | 14:07 |
| alesage | charles when this came up yesterday I think we were just wanting to make sure that the test plan reflects the design FWIW | 14:48 |
| === mhall119 is now known as mhall119|vacatio | ||
| elfy | balloons: do you know what's going on with the tracker - Final's keep disappearing | 15:51 |
| balloons | elfy, what's disappearing? | 16:00 |
| elfy | http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker | 16:02 |
| elfy | no Final | 16:03 |
| wxl | wonder if this will get fixed before final :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1380774 | 16:30 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1380774 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "debian-installer does not find kernel" [High,Confirmed] | 16:30 |
| balloons | elfy, no final will exist there unless posted | 16:33 |
| wxl | so rc is ready to go or not? | 16:33 |
| balloons | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ certainly has it. For packages, we haven't done intermeadiate milestones | 16:33 |
| elfy | balloons: ok - so please point to me where I can send people to report either the RC or the Final | 16:34 |
| balloons | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds | 16:34 |
| elfy | and now it's got builds on it | 16:34 |
| balloons | the milestone is called final. It's the last milestone.. it's been called RC in the past but hasn't been done so for a bit | 16:34 |
| elfy | I'm telling you that keeps disappearing | 16:35 |
| wxl | ok so it's official | 16:35 |
| balloons | elfy, lol.. I don't NOT believe you, but I've not seen any disappearance | 16:35 |
| elfy | and it WAS on the front page before you got up | 16:35 |
| elfy | I'm getting really fedup with the tracker :| | 16:36 |
| elfy | oh | 16:39 |
| elfy | balloons: I apologise - I kept grabbing the packages one - I'm an idiot | 16:40 |
| elfy | no wonder I thought it kept disappearing :( | 16:40 |
| balloons | elfy, no worries. It's easy to get confused | 16:41 |
| * elfy casts about for something to blame and settles on the new firefox tab page - packages is where images was lol | 16:42 | |
| balloons | elfy, so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1378423 still exists for me | 16:55 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1378423 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Virtualbox boots to black screen with daily" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:55 |
| wxl | balloons: with ubuntu or xubuntu or what? no issues with me on lubuntu oddly | 16:55 |
| balloons | ubuntu | 16:55 |
| wxl | interesting that | 16:56 |
| wxl | we all use lightdm no? | 16:56 |
| elfy | balloons: confirmed | 16:57 |
| balloons | elopio, can you +1 this before I merge? https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/reminders-app/fix-1381828/+merge/238519 | 17:04 |
| wxl | maybe it's a GPU issue | 17:04 |
| balloons | elfy, does it affect xubuntu? | 17:04 |
| elfy | yes - I did say :) | 17:04 |
| elfy | I'll drag down the lubuntu image and see if I see it | 17:04 |
| wxl | i'm grabbing xubuntu now to confirm the problem | 17:04 |
| balloons | right.. so that rules out gpu issue for me; if it doesn't affect lubuntu | 17:05 |
| wxl | gmta ;) | 17:05 |
| wxl | well it CAN'T be a lightdm issue. that makes no sense. | 17:05 |
| elfy | it might be that it's host issue - I assume balloons like me is hosting on 14.10 not 13.04 | 17:05 |
| wxl | if it IS an xorg issue it would seem it would have to be some sort of driver issue | 17:05 |
| wxl | i'm on 14.04 fwiw | 17:05 |
| balloons | indeed very much so. Could be a vbox thing too | 17:05 |
| elfy | balloons: previous issues with vbox didn't appear on other vm tools afaik | 17:06 |
| * balloons notices new update for vbox from source | 17:06 | |
| wxl | yep | 17:06 |
| wxl | grabbing 4.4.18-96516 while i'm at it | 17:06 |
| wxl | 4.3! | 17:07 |
| balloons | what version do you run now wxl ? | 17:08 |
| wxl | i had 4.3.16-95972 balloons | 17:08 |
| * wxl is so happy to have more ram in his work computer so he can run multiple vms at a time and still do regular work ;) | 17:09 | |
| elfy | balloons: with lubuntu I get menu at the start asking to choose try or install - not the try/install dialogue that xubuntu and ubuntu get later in the livesession boot | 17:13 |
| wxl | i assume this fails on live boot or do i need to install first? | 17:13 |
| wxl | elfy: that's normal | 17:13 |
| wxl | it's a feature :) | 17:13 |
| elfy | wxl: it's before you get to the desktop - you get just a black screen - vt1 and then vt7 and you should get the try/install dialogue | 17:14 |
| elfy | wxl: yea - perhaps that's why you don't get the same issue | 17:14 |
| wxl | ic | 17:14 |
| wxl | well let me confirm xubuntu first elfy | 17:14 |
| wxl | i booted to the try/install. does the bug come earlier? | 17:15 |
| === roadmr is now known as roadmr_afk | ||
| wxl | oic you get the try/install only after flipping vts | 17:16 |
| wxl | i didn't have to do that | 17:16 |
| elfy | yea | 17:16 |
| wxl | booted right to it | 17:16 |
| wxl | so it MAY be a gpu issue of some kind after all | 17:16 |
| wxl | and/or driver | 17:16 |
| elfy | biab | 17:16 |
| wxl | i am using 386 too | 17:17 |
| wxl | so i wonder if it's just amd64? | 17:17 |
| elopio | balloons: +1'ed | 17:18 |
| elfy | balloons: ok - so Xubuntu and Ubuntu in vbox - vt1 then 7 and it works - Kubuntu - nada, nothing, zilch :( | 17:25 |
| elfy | fail | 17:25 |
| elfy | Kubuntu is the same here as Xubuntu and Ubuntu | 17:26 |
| wxl | any of you have i386 machines? | 17:27 |
| elfy | nope | 17:27 |
| wxl | i have a real suspicion that's the problem | 17:27 |
| elfy | well ... not working ones anyway - they're in the attic lol | 17:27 |
| wxl | that amd64 is the issue | 17:27 |
| wxl | heheheh | 17:27 |
| wxl | send it over :) | 17:28 |
| wxl | oops wrong channel :/ | 17:28 |
| elfy | :) | 17:37 |
| elfy | balloons: at least hardware works ok - this could be worse :D | 17:38 |
| === roadmr_afk is now known as roadmr | ||
| wxl | well we got the d-i issue fixed if we can pull down the new apt from debian https://bugs.launchpad.net/apt/+bug/1380774 | 19:18 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1380774 in apt (Ubuntu) "debian-installer does not find kernel" [High,Confirmed] | 19:18 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, hi | 19:42 |
| * Letozaf_ oops need to reboot | 19:43 | |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, I have just installed ubuntu amd64 on a VM and after reboot I have very low resolution 640x480, have you already reported a bug ? | 19:56 |
| balloons | Letozaf_, hey.. I haven't yet seen that. I'm about to do a real hw install, but I can do a vm first to see | 20:03 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, :) I have another weired thing: my Virtualbox VM has no menu's I wanted to try to install virtualbox guest additions | 20:05 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, to see if that changes something | 20:06 |
| elfy | I can confirm 640x480 after install - have seen that for a large part of the cycle - but given all the other vbox issues - it didn't seem that big an issue against those - guest additions installs fine | 20:07 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, have you got the VM's menus on Virtualbox ? | 20:07 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, hi | 20:07 |
| balloons | Letozaf_, what do you mean? | 20:07 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, but have you got the VM's menus ? | 20:07 |
| * balloons noted nothing in vbox boots. Trying qemu | 20:07 | |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, well when your VM is started you got the VM's menu for chosing to install VM additions, attach a device ect... | 20:08 |
| elfy | Letozaf_: have menus here - using Xubuntu | 20:09 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, I have Ubuntu amd64 | 20:09 |
| balloons | qemu works fine ;-) | 20:09 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, balloons so I am unable to install Virtualbox guest additions | 20:09 |
| elfy | balloons: good | 20:10 |
| elfy | Letozaf_: try host+D | 20:10 |
| * elfy can see menu and shortcuts :) | 20:10 | |
| elfy | rightctrl+D that is by default | 20:11 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, thanks that worked :) but menus are still missing :P | 20:11 |
| elfy | :) | 20:11 |
| elfy | use Xubuntu ;) | 20:11 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, hah! could be, but I am an Ubuntu fan :p | 20:13 |
| elfy | :) | 20:13 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, mabye I could install Xubuntu on my laptop :P | 20:13 |
| elfy | I've had just about enough of vbox for one cycle it's got to be said - one thing after another lol | 20:15 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, I managed to install Virtuabox guest additons, but nothing changes, I have the same low resolution | 20:22 |
| * Letozaf_ is thinking to leave Virtualbox and star using qemu :P | 20:26 | |
| Letozaf_ | start | 20:26 |
| balloons | lol Letozaf_ | 20:26 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, what happened to poor Virtualbox it looks a bit distraught :P | 20:28 |
| elfy | Letozaf_: it caught a cold somewhere round about May and it's not got rid of it ... | 20:28 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, oooh! looks like I have been too busy with autopilot if I found out only now :P | 20:29 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, didn't realize i was not using Virtualbox for sooooo long :P | 20:30 |
| elfy | oh it's been driving me up the wall - and I've been doing the same to balloons I think :D | 20:31 |
| Letozaf_ | LOL | 20:31 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, but have you reported bugs about this ? | 20:32 |
| elfy | oh yes | 20:32 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, ok so no use I do it too :P if you got the bug number handy I can confirm it (if this is of some use) | 20:32 |
| elfy | which bug Letozaf_ | 20:32 |
| elfy | the only current one I have is bug 1378423 | 20:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1378423 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Virtualbox boots to black screen with daily" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1378423 | 20:33 |
| elfy | all the others have been fixed | 20:33 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, oO fixed ? how come I am having issues :P | 20:33 |
| balloons | as soon as one is fixed, more appear it seems | 20:35 |
| elfy | balloons: that sums it up | 20:35 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, ok so I will try to see if someone has reported this bug otherwise I will, right ? | 20:35 |
| elfy | Letozaf_: I'm confused as to which bug here? | 20:36 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, sorry :) I meant that the menus are missing | 20:36 |
| elfy | aah - well I'd not see that one :) | 20:36 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, :) | 20:37 |
| balloons | Letozaf_, if you menu like the file menu and such, try maximizing and restoring the window | 20:37 |
| balloons | there is a bug for that | 20:37 |
| balloons | if you have in window menus | 20:37 |
| * elfy has vague recollection of someone talking about menu's missing in Ubuntu recently | 20:37 | |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, I have already tried to maximize the window but nothing changes | 20:37 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, I got them back!!! I pressed ctrl+c | 20:38 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, to exit from scale mode | 20:38 |
| elfy | that's not a bug - that's pebkac :D | 20:39 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, what is pebkac ? | 20:39 |
| elfy | problem exists between keyboard and chair :D | 20:40 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, in scale mode no menus when I exit scale mode the menus come back | 20:40 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, what a tiny VM :P I am already blind... if I have to have such a small VM I will go even blinder :P | 20:41 |
| balloons | elfy, ROFL.. I love it | 20:42 |
| balloons | never heard that | 20:42 |
| elfy | really? | 20:42 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, :O lol | 20:43 |
| elfy | Letozaf_: I agree that 640x480 isn't much use - but I tend to do the install checks - small's ok for those - then do guest adds before the post install | 20:43 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, guest addons did not work for me | 20:44 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, still got a tiny tiny VM | 20:44 |
| elfy | yea :( | 20:44 |
| elfy | at least that one is ubuntu specific | 20:45 |
| Letozaf_ | elfy, lol | 20:45 |
| elfy | we've got Xubuntu specific one - and it doesn't appear that we're going to see it fixed in time | 20:46 |
| Letozaf_ | ok guys I must go it's getting late, I will be back tomorrow | 20:49 |
| balloons | Letozaf_, cheers. We'll be at this all week, hehe | 20:50 |
| Letozaf_ | good night everyone :-) | 20:50 |
| Letozaf_ | balloons, yeah right :) | 20:50 |
| Letozaf_ | good night | 20:50 |
| elfy | time for me to offline too I think - night balloons | 20:53 |
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