| Kilos | morning all | 03:31 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 04:28 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 04:28 | |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 04:28 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn we the early birds | 04:28 |
| Kilos | the bot lagging some today | 04:28 |
| magespawn | yup definitely looking that way | 04:29 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 04:32 |
| Kilos | Maaz danke | 04:32 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 04:32 |
| Kilos | ah lag has dropped by half | 04:32 |
| magespawn | look like there is something happening on the interwebs, my users were complaining about slow gmail yesterday | 04:34 |
| magespawn | anyways i am off to breakfast, will chat later | 04:35 |
| Kilos | hi bduk | 05:25 |
| bduk | More Kilos and all other peeps | 05:26 |
| bduk | Kilos: jou harddrive nou reg? | 05:40 |
| Kilos | ja bduk ek baie gelukkig met die ene | 05:48 |
| Kilos | en baie plek nou on data recoveries te doen | 05:49 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:18 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning Kilos, everyone | 06:19 |
| inetpro | guten morgen | 06:33 |
| Kilos | morgen her inetpro | 06:38 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 06:44 |
| magespawn | howdy all | 06:44 |
| Kilos | hi again magespawn where are you staying? in a hotel? | 06:44 |
| magespawn | yes i was at one of the hotels last night. i generally stay at the closet to where i am working | 06:45 |
| magespawn | closest? | 06:45 |
| Squirm | morning | 06:46 |
| * Squirm googles for the closet hotel | 06:47 | |
| magespawn | hah Squirm, i do not think google will help you there | 06:48 |
| Kilos | haha | 06:50 |
| Kilos | i wondered when you said you are going for breakfast | 06:50 |
| Squirm | ooh | 07:00 |
| Squirm | I have a YuppieChef email account | 07:00 |
| Kilos | haha do they mail you breakfast? | 07:00 |
| Symmetria | hrm, any word yet on when the next ubuntu release is | 07:01 |
| Squirm | Symmetria: it should be this month? | 07:01 |
| superfly | next week I think? | 07:01 |
| Squirm | not sure on the date | 07:01 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:16 |
| Kilos | hi Spekko | 07:22 |
| Spekko | hey Kilos | 07:27 |
| Vince-0 | hi | 07:32 |
| Kilos | eish maybe its time to leave google | 07:35 |
| Kilos | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/112118-poodle-bug-discovered-by-google.html | 07:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | whaaaat are you talking about? | 07:37 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | did you even read the article? | 07:37 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Symmetria: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule - tl;dr 23rd Oct | 07:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | or since about 2 weeks ago on my laptop | 07:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i generally upgrade when final beta hits, haven't had a major problem so far | 07:39 |
| Kilos | yip they just found another bug and they are advertising it | 07:40 |
| Kilos | third bug this year | 07:41 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | <Kilos> eish maybe its time to leave google | 07:41 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:41 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you shouldn't be making statements like that | 07:41 |
| Kilos | sorry | 07:41 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | they discovered the bug, they didn't cause it | 07:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the bug is in SSL v3 which is actually pretty ancient already | 07:42 |
| Kilos | ya but advertising it in my broadband isnt wise imo | 07:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | meh I give up | 07:43 |
| Kilos | such bugs must be kept quiet till they are fixed isnt it | 07:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no, it isn't | 07:43 |
| Kilos | can you explain why please | 07:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it cannot be fixed because its a problem in the design of the protocol not the way it was implemented | 07:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and even if it could, SSL v3 is OLD, and was replaced by TLS 1.0 15 YEARS ago | 07:44 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so no | 07:44 |
| Kilos | ok ty | 07:44 |
| magespawn | so by letting people know about the bug it alerts those people who have not changed they should do it now | 07:45 |
| Kilos | ah ty | 07:45 |
| charl | good morning | 07:50 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 07:50 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 07:50 | |
| Kilos | hi charl | 07:52 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 07:54 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 08:19 |
| Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 08:19 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 08:19 |
| magespawn | hi charl | 08:32 |
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| Kilos | haha wb georgl | 08:39 |
| Squirm | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/general/112262-u2-apologises-for-spamming-itunes.html | 08:45 |
| Vince-0 | As if U2 and Apple didn't plan it so it would happen that way | 09:03 |
| Kilos | shame, porr bushand his voda buddies | 09:36 |
| Kilos | poor | 09:36 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:36 |
| Kilos | bushtech | 09:36 |
| Kilos | wb bushtech | 09:38 |
| Kilos | lol the wind is blowing you away | 09:41 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 09:41 |
| charl | good afternoon Kilos | 10:46 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 10:46 |
| charl | how are you doing | 10:46 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 10:46 |
| charl | good good | 10:47 |
| magespawn | anybody skilled in php? | 11:31 |
| charl | hi magespawn | 11:31 |
| magespawn | hey ChanServ | 11:31 |
| charl | lol | 11:31 |
| magespawn | oops | 11:31 |
| charl | tab fail :P | 11:31 |
| magespawn | hey charl | 11:31 |
| charl | anyone who is skilled in php would probably be too afraid to admit it these days | 11:32 |
| charl | i have php background so ask away | 11:32 |
| charl | just for the record, i stopped doing php many years ago :P | 11:32 |
| magespawn | i have just removed some files from a company website, that our hosting provider said were abusive | 11:33 |
| magespawn | i think they were put there during an earlier hack of the site | 11:33 |
| charl | likely | 11:33 |
| magespawn | i can put them up on slexy, i want to know what they do | 11:34 |
| charl | ubuntu pastebin is better than slexy | 11:34 |
| charl | it has better width for the actual paste content | 11:34 |
| magespawn | okay brb | 11:34 |
| magespawn | http://pastebin.com/NzgnDqcP | 11:39 |
| magespawn | that is the one file | 11:39 |
| charl | it's a php file manager application | 11:41 |
| magespawn | there are several other files too | 11:41 |
| charl | ah it's a politically motivated hacking team https://www.facebook.com/Tryagteam | 11:43 |
| charl | you can download a copy of that at https://www.facebook.com/Tryagteam/posts/479417632088830 | 11:43 |
| charl | if i search for it i get a LOT of results https://www.google.nl/search?q=%22Tryag+File+Manager%22 | 11:44 |
| charl | it seems like they (and other people using their stuff) have been busy | 11:44 |
| charl | i particularly like this setup https://www.facebook.com/Tryagteam/photos/pb.432039136832672.-2207520000.1413459742./716842445019005/?type=1 | 11:44 |
| magespawn | here is another file http://pastebin.com/tV2Dsfgz | 11:45 |
| magespawn | what is that? | 11:46 |
| charl | ah it's an irc bot | 11:52 |
| magespawn | that is what i thought, so they were using my server to run an irc channel or at least the bot | 11:55 |
| charl | no the bot was connecting outward | 11:57 |
| charl | some indonesian irc server | 11:57 |
| charl | yup both were being abused for security-related purposes | 11:58 |
| charl | perhaps spam or other exploits | 11:59 |
| charl | nothing too much out of the usual | 11:59 |
| magespawn | great, that will probable mean the domain/ip address is going to get flagged at some point | 12:02 |
| charl | yup | 12:02 |
| magespawn | charl, going to have to do a lot of reading on how to secure the websites | 13:26 |
| charl | good thinking magespawn | 13:27 |
| magespawn | i like learning new things, and it is always nice to have good motivation | 13:28 |
| charl | yeah indeed | 13:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:28 |
| Kilos | your month end pay is supposed to be the motivation | 13:28 |
| Kilos | and the smile on the bosses face when he seas you | 13:29 |
| magespawn | Kilos i get asked to do a lot of divergent things, so this is a more personal pleasure | 13:29 |
| Kilos | haha | 13:29 |
| Kilos | its always good to have answers so no end of reading and remembering is enough | 13:30 |
| magespawn | and my biggest problem is a lack of focus, motivation like this creates the focus | 13:30 |
| Kilos | aw i forgot how to focus on things | 13:31 |
| charl | when you are in an all-round IT job focus is hard | 13:32 |
| magespawn | when you are me, focus is hard, so double whammy on that one. | 13:40 |
| Kilos | aw whats wrong with you my magespawn | 13:43 |
| Kilos | you seem to have done well this last year or so, you learned lots | 13:43 |
| Kilos | luckily you helped me lots when you still had tioime | 13:51 |
| Kilos | time as well | 13:51 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 15:04 |
| tumbleweed | superfly: ubuntu-za.org looks like it needs some serious love | 15:52 |
| charl | good evening | 16:13 |
| charl | hey tumbleweed | 16:14 |
| charl | long time no see | 16:14 |
| tumbleweed | hi charl | 16:17 |
| * tumbleweed has gone to SF | 16:17 | |
| tumbleweed | but if you're looking for somethung fun :P https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/Bids/Cape_Town | 16:17 |
| charl | ah you living in the 'valley now? :P | 16:46 |
| charl | tumbleweed: ^^ | 16:46 |
| charl | wb Kilos | 16:47 |
| Kilos | ty charl wind blew the power away | 16:48 |
| charl | have you heard tumbleweed is living in the 'valley :P | 16:48 |
| charl | bah that sucks :( | 16:48 |
| charl | about your power i mean, not tumbleweed | 16:48 |
| Kilos | in the valley? | 16:48 |
| tumbleweed | charl: well, in the city. Not a fan of the valley | 16:48 |
| Kilos | hi tumbleweed | 16:48 |
| charl | ah :D | 16:48 |
| charl | silicon valley Kilos | 16:49 |
| tumbleweed | hi Kilos | 16:49 |
| charl | or san francisco in any case | 16:49 |
| Kilos | oh my | 16:49 |
| charl | not the valley then but the city | 16:49 |
| charl | like i would know the difference :P never been there | 16:49 |
| charl | tumbleweed: tell us more ! you got a cool job at a startup? | 16:50 |
| tumbleweed | charl: nothing new. same (not quite a startup any more) startup as cape town - yola | 16:52 |
| tumbleweed | just a change of scenary | 16:52 |
| charl | ah that company | 16:54 |
| charl | yes i went for a job interview there once | 16:54 |
| charl | with brent and vinny | 16:54 |
| charl | there was also a girl who brought us lunch but i can't remember her name | 16:54 |
| tumbleweed | janine? I think she's been the office manager there since the beginning | 16:54 |
| tumbleweed | vinny's long gone, brent is here in SF | 16:55 |
| charl | ah nice send my regards | 16:58 |
| charl | he would also know another friend of mine | 16:58 |
| charl | neville newey | 16:58 |
| Kilos | i knew he was in the states charl but not where presactly | 17:19 |
| Kilos | didnt know silicon valley is in SF | 17:19 |
| charl | according to wikipedia: Silicon Valley is a nickname for the southern portion of the San Francisco Bay Area of Northern California in the United States. | 17:20 |
| Kilos | nice to see you chatting some here tumbleweed | 17:20 |
| Kilos | is the crash kid also there? | 17:21 |
| charl | nono he sold his soul to facebook | 17:23 |
| charl | he has his face shut in a book now | 17:23 |
| Kilos | aha | 17:24 |
| Kilos | but i mean also like 9 hours behind us | 17:24 |
| charl | if a person's face turns into a book, it means (s)he is easy to read right? :P | 17:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:25 |
| charl | whow it's only 7 and it's pitch dark outside | 17:26 |
| charl | winter is coming | 17:26 |
| charl | yes... we all know it | 17:27 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari_ | 17:32 |
| nuvolari_ | oh hi oom Kilos :) | 17:33 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: yeah, he's down in the valley. I haven't got around to seeing him, here, yet | 17:41 |
| Kilos | ok now i know you are having lunch when we are at 9pm about ty | 17:42 |
| tumbleweed | :) | 17:43 |
| Kilos | inetpro die wind roer ne | 17:50 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:26 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: :-( | 19:00 |
| inetpro | good evening | 19:01 |
| superfly | hi inetpro | 19:03 |
| inetpro | how goes it superfly? | 19:03 |
| superfly | inetpro: busy... | 19:04 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:04 |
| superfly | had an all-day workshop at work today, finished up at 6, got home at 7:45 | 19:04 |
| charl | hi superfly, inetpro | 19:05 |
| superfly | hi charl | 19:05 |
| inetpro | hi charl | 19:06 |
| * inetpro just got home a few minutes ago | 19:06 | |
| charl | whow ! late day at the office ? | 19:06 |
| inetpro | after driving through thick clouds of dust | 19:06 |
| inetpro | was almost like mist in front of me all the way | 19:06 |
| inetpro | we migrated to a new drupal website today | 19:09 |
| inetpro | after many moons of blood, sweat and tears | 19:10 |
| charl | with drupal.. prepare for pain | 19:11 |
| charl | welcome to the rice fields | 19:11 |
| inetpro | rice fields? | 19:12 |
| inetpro | don't want to speak too early but with the team of developers we have I think this one should be much better than previous efforts | 19:14 |
| charl | inetpro: https://i.imgflip.com/d5akc.jpg | 19:16 |
| superfly | Drupal is a darn sight better than WordPress | 19:16 |
| superfly | my company is learning the hard way | 19:16 |
| superfly | charl: tell me why Drupal is pain? when did you last use it? | 19:17 |
| charl | i don't know how it is right now, last time i used it was 2008 i tihnk | 19:18 |
| charl | the code was a spaghetti monster of a disaster | 19:18 |
| charl | many of the third party plugins were either of terrible quality, extremely buggy, or both | 19:19 |
| superfly | charl: are you sure you're not talking about WordPress? | 19:19 |
| superfly | sounds a lot like WP to me, more so than Drupal | 19:19 |
| charl | you got unexpected problems of all kinds that were very hard to impossible to trace because, as said, code is a royal disaster | 19:19 |
| charl | well the problem with WP is that it is inspired by drupal | 19:20 |
| charl | they use some of the same terrible design patterns that drupal uses | 19:20 |
| superfly | charl: no, they are completely different, at least they were the last time I looked at WP, and WP is not inspired by Drupal | 19:20 |
| superfly | charl: then again, what more can you expect from a system written in PHP? | 19:21 |
| charl | that too yes | 19:21 |
| charl | but that's not correct, matt mullenweg said himself that they share a lot of code back and forth with drupal | 19:21 |
| charl | i listened to a talk of him saying that, let me see if i can find it | 19:22 |
| superfly | "sharing code" != "same architecture" | 19:22 |
| charl | i didn't say architecture, i said design patterns | 19:22 |
| superfly | I still disagree. | 19:23 |
| charl | nope the video got taken down it seems | 19:25 |
| charl | it used to be on a site called zoopy which since got closed down | 19:25 |
| superfly | zoopy died years ago | 19:25 |
| charl | yup | 19:26 |
| charl | funny thing is, i applied there for a job many years ago | 19:26 |
| charl | didn't end up working there though | 19:26 |
| charl | https://wordpress.org/about/ | 19:30 |
| charl | they thank drupal for ideas and inspiration on the about page | 19:30 |
| charl | there is a historical connection between the two | 19:30 |
| charl | but that might have dissolved years ago | 19:30 |
| charl | back then, and this is talking 5+ years ago, i could very clearly see the same concepts coming back in wordpress as i saw in drupal | 19:30 |
| charl | and i spent quite a bit of time in those years going through the code of both platforms | 19:31 |
| charl | i was not impressed | 19:31 |
| charl | but, that *was* 5+ years ago, and of course i'm sure a lot has changed | 19:31 |
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