[00:00] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: we have a trigger for the /home, not sure about whole install..
[00:00] <lotuspsychje> !home | Quatroking
[00:00] <neldogz> Hi all, do you have to install any 32 bit libraries to run Steam games if you are running Ubuntu 14.04.1 64-bit?
[00:01] <Quatroking> I'm not interested in just moving home, I'm interested in moving the entire install
[00:01] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, i'm back
[00:01] <Quatroking> yay https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition
[00:01] <reisio> Quatroking: from the live OS, recreate partitions, rsync -ap the data over, reinstall grub
[00:02] <Quatroking> reisio, is that faster than the movinglinuxpartition tutorial?
[00:03] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, k, do you have anything critical on this drive?
[00:03] <pbx> neldogz, i think the steam installer will do what it needs to do.
[00:04] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, nothing really important. anything that i intended to keep is currently backed up. hows this look for the edit? http://imgur.com/14620hK
[00:04] <ObrienDave> looks good
[00:05] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: why did you setup on the wrong hd exactly?
[00:05] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, ok, hitting go
[00:05] <ObrienDave> k
[00:05] <neldogz> pbx, thanks !
[00:05] <Quatroking> I probably did because windows was on the primary drive, and I cut secondary drive's size in half for ubuntu
[00:06] <Quatroking> didn't expect to never use windows again on the laptop, I guess
[00:06] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, like that extra wide monitor BTW :)
[00:06] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: make your life easy and single install 14.04 on your whole hd
[00:06] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: you can run winblows from virtualbox after :p
[00:06] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, thanks
[00:07] <Quatroking> is there a way to quickly transfer over all settings, installed packages, my custom bootup, etc.?
[00:07] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | Quatroking
[00:08] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: thats for the packages part
[00:08] <Quatroking> er
[00:08] <Quatroking> does that also work without disc
[00:08] <Quatroking> my laptop doesn't have an optical drive
[00:08] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: yes
[00:08] <Quatroking> oh, cool
[00:09] <reisio> Quatroking: I'd say it's faster and more reliable
[00:09] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: maybe someone else knows a nice package to backup configs
[00:10] <reisio> all your configs that matter should be in ~/, which you'll likely want to backup entirely
[00:10] <ObrienDave> rsync? ;P
[00:10] <lotuspsychje> there we go :p
[00:10] <Quatroking> reisio, hey now, my custom boot screen is very important
[00:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[00:11] <Quatroking> it has a shiny ubuntu logo rising up like a sun and everything
[00:11] <ObrienDave> screenshot?
[00:11]  * lotuspsychje rather likes fast 'quiet splash' off boot on his ssd
[00:12] <Quatroking> ObrienDave, this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-4xTkN1_RQ
[00:12] <reisio> Quatroking: you probably have a copy of it in your ~/ then
[00:12] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, very cool :)
[00:13] <reisio> you don't need to backup things available in the repos, either
[00:13] <Quatroking> no idea if I have a copy of it in my ~/
[00:13] <Quatroking> there's no .plymouth or anything so I don't think I do
[00:13] <Quatroking> meh, guess I can reinstall it
[00:14] <reisio> logic would suggest
[00:14] <reisio> did you decide not to just migrate?
[00:14] <Quatroking> I just made an aptoncd iso
[00:14] <reisio> k...
[00:15] <Quatroking> the bootscreen isn't saved in home or something
[00:15] <Quatroking> will be moving everything on friday, when I'm done with uni and got a week off
[00:17] <reisio> well it won't take a week to move an install from one disk to another :)
[00:17] <ObrienDave> hopefully ;P
[00:17] <Quatroking> yeah but in case something goes wrong I can at least do my schoolwork
[00:17] <lotuspsychje> how can i tail -f networking/wifi errors only from syslog or dmesq?
[00:17] <Quatroking> if I go and do everything now I risk not being able to do stuff tomorrow
[00:18] <Quatroking> which isn't really something I'm looking forward to
[00:18] <Waffl3x> hi
[00:18] <reisio> ohai
[00:18] <Waffl3x> I accidently installed kubuntu 32 bit, is there an easy way to install 64 bit or do I have to completely uninstall and reinstall
[00:19] <reisio> Waffl3x: latter
[00:19] <keviv> Why hello
[00:19] <Waffl3x> unfortunate
[00:19] <reisio> Waffl3x: that is, you have to reinstall
[00:19] <reisio> Waffl3x: yeah
[00:19] <Waffl3x> okay so
[00:19] <Waffl3x> how do I uninstall
[00:19] <Waffl3x> :D
[00:19] <reisio> it's not that you can't replace a 32-bit system with a 64-bit system without running the installer, it's just that running the installer takes less time and effort
[00:19] <reisio> Waffl3x: you don't need to, just install again, with the 64-bit version
[00:19] <Waffl3x> it will install right over?
[00:19] <Waffl3x> nice
[00:20] <reisio> it should at least give you the option
[00:20] <reisio> otherwise you can delete the partitions and it will
[00:20] <Waffl3x> I just installed it today, didnt realise I downloaded 32 bit
[00:20] <reisio> Waffl3x: :)
[00:20] <reisio> luckily it doesn't take all that long
[00:21] <Waffl3x> so do I have to install it from usb again
[00:21] <Waffl3x> or can I just run the iso?
[00:21] <Waffl3x> actually that sounds silly
[00:21] <Waffl3x> am I being silly
[00:22] <lotuspsychje> Waffl3x: you can use disk creator from your 32bit to create your 64bit usb stick
[00:22] <Waffl3x> not completely sure how to do that
[00:22] <Waffl3x> but sounds good
[00:23] <Waffl3x> could I just use yumi?
[00:23] <Waffl3x> would that be easier?
[00:23] <lotuspsychje> Waffl3x: download the 64bit iso, start the usb disk creator and create
[00:24] <Waffl3x> lotuspsychje: easier said then done when I dont know how to navigate kubuntu yet :)
[00:24] <lj1102> hello, i want to execute two commands in terminal simultaniously but want to exit both of them when one exits, how would i accomplish this?
[00:24] <lotuspsychje> Waffl3x: ah kubuntu, not sure it uses the disk creator there
[00:25] <reisio> lj1102: gnu parallel
[00:25] <celroc> Waffl3x: You can probably click on the Application Menu thing (Sorry, haven't used KDE for a while.  That little thing that's like a Start Menu) and then start typing "disk Creator" ... I think that will search for it.  Maybe.
[00:25] <reisio> lj1102: for runningg simultaneously; exiting is simpler: foo && killall bar
[00:25] <reisio> lj1102: or sigterm to be nicer
[00:25] <SorcerousFox> Should it be called a KMenu? x) I haven't used kde in a while either
[00:26] <Waffl3x> thank you
[00:26] <lotuspsychje> unity freaks here :p
[00:26] <celroc> SorcerousFox: Either that of the K Application Launcher thing... unless they renamed it since I've used KDE
[00:26] <SorcerousFox> lotuspsychje: Openbox actually ;)
[00:26] <lotuspsychje> SorcerousFox: also nice
[00:27]  * ObrienDave is an anti-unity freak ;P
[00:27]  * celroc too.
[00:27] <lotuspsychje> well well
[00:28] <lotuspsychje> oldskool freaks then :p
[00:28] <crakins> testing
[00:28] <lj1102> reisio: mhh, i have one script that runs for ever and one that batch processes data, i want to kill that "forever" running script once my batch processing is done
[00:28] <celroc> lotuspsychje: Just because I type stuff in the command line doesn't make me old school!  I'm not old! :P
[00:29] <lotuspsychje> celroc: ok young body with oldskool mind :p
[00:29] <celroc> lotuspsychje: Haha!  Alright, I'll admit to that.
[00:29] <lotuspsychje> someone knows how i can -tail -f networking/wifi errors only from the /var/logs?
[00:30] <SorcerousFox> I just have a preference for low resource usage lol. the 1Gb ram+ on the big DE's boggles me brain
[00:30] <SorcerousFox> unity and gnome-shell 3
[00:30] <SorcerousFox> i don't know how kde is
[00:32] <celroc> lotuspsychje: I don't exactly, but if you know a specific piece of text that is present in all the networking/wifi errors, you can pipe the output through grep I think.  Something like: tail -f /var/logs/awesomeLogFile.log | grep textInErrorMessages
[00:32] <lotuspsychje> celroc: lemme try colortail -f /var/log/syslog | grep network
[00:33] <lj1102> reisio: well i guess i'll do something like `foreverrunning & ; batchprocess && killall foreverrunning`
[00:33] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, still cooking?
[00:34] <lj1102> reisio: thanks
[00:47] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, still cooking. moving faster than last night too
[00:47] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, ok, cool. i'll be here
[00:50] <Jaaronrj> I have a HAWKING HWUN4 USB wifi adapter but the company does not offer a Linux driver. I am pretty new to Linux, is there any way to make this thing work? If not I just can't use Linux which is unfortunate.
[00:50] <root> hi
[00:50] <Jaaronrj> hi
[00:51] <Guest90709> are you all hackers?
[00:55] <ObrienDave> depends on your definition of hacker
[00:55] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, still got about 2.5 hrs left
[00:56] <ObrienDave> k
[01:00] <excelsiora> Hi, I need javac to compile a little java thingie I wrote. Which package should I sudo apt-get install?
[01:00] <treats> has anyone solved flash for ubuntu?
[01:01] <excelsiora> default-jdk?
[01:01] <excelsiora> openjdk-7-jdk
[01:01] <excelsiora> others?
[01:04] <postmodern> is there a way to install bash3 and 4 together?
[01:06] <excelsiora> seriously, do I install default-jdk or some other java development kit?
[01:06] <Jaaronrj> I have a USB wireless network adapter (Hawking HWUN4) that has no Linux driver. Is there any way to get this to work?
[01:07] <pbx> excelsiora, i installed openjdk FWIW. i have no particular java expertise but javac/java did work when i tried it
[01:08] <excelsiora> http://askubuntu.com/questions/377750/what-is-the-difference-between-default-jdk-ecj-gcj-and-openjdk
[01:09] <coucouuu> hellooo
[01:09] <walooo> hellooo
[01:11] <Freen0deAdmin> !Ops
[01:11] <Freen0deAdmin> hello fellow ops
[01:11] <apb1963> when I boot 14.04, the screen is black... until after a little bit the GUI comes up... so I don't see any of the startup messages... is this a nomodeset thing, or is there something else?
[01:13] <walooo> hello
[01:13] <rabieee> allo
[01:25] <test25487> tt
[01:27] <sriram> hey guyzz
[01:31] <Rexter> My mouse speed is too fast even on the lowest setting. It's almost unsuable
[01:32] <Rexter> My mouse speed is too fast even on the lowest setting, I found the command to reduce the speed, but it's only good for the session. I need help with the X11 configs to reduce it at startup.
[01:33] <SorcerousFox> I don't know what the "correct" way to do it is but i generally just add configuration things like that to my .bashrc
[01:34] <Rexter> I have reduced the mouse speed with this command sudo xinput --set-prop "pointer:MOSART Semi. 2.4G Wireless Mouse" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 7
[01:34] <Rexter> But it's only good for the session
[01:35] <Rexter> I need help reducing my mouse speed on Ubuntu 14.04
[01:35] <CsarGomez> hello =)
[01:35] <Rexter> =)
[01:36] <Rexter> My mouse is too fast. I figured out how to slow it down, but I can't get it to survive a reboot.
[01:37] <Melar> issue with dell latitude d620 not being able to boot from usb.  Is there a workaround?
[01:38] <Hemebond> I have updated /etc/network/interfaces with aliases (e.g., eth0:1) but the new IP addresses aren't being added. I can add them manually. How can I find out what the problem is?
[01:38] <PolishPicker> yes a boot cd
[01:38] <CsarGomez> Rexter try settings >  mouse and touchpad
[01:38] <Rexter> Ubuntu 14.04 wireless mouse is too fast. I can slow it down using the xinput command, but I'm looking for a way to make the change permanent.
[01:39] <Rexter> CsarGomez; yes, thank you. It's on the lowest setting.
[01:39] <CsarGomez> amms
[01:39] <CsarGomez> Rexter: check this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1303086
[01:40] <Melar> have there been any other people who have had this same issue?
[01:40] <Rexter> CsarGomez; I have used sudo xinput --set-prop "pointer:MOSART Semi. 2.4G Wireless Mouse" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 7
[01:40] <Rexter>  to get it how I want, but I'm looking for a way to run this command for all users at startup.
[01:42] <Rexter> CsarGomez; no not my issue. I'm not missing any settings.
[01:42] <Rexter> If I wanted to run a command for all users at startup, is a cron job the way to go?
[01:43] <CsarGomez> Rexter: in mouse and touchpad > pointer speed = slow?
[01:44] <loa> Rexter, for current user you can use gnome-session-properties
[01:45] <Rexter> CsarGomez; yes, too fast even when turned all the way down.
[01:45] <Rexter> loa, i need all users.
[01:47] <CsarGomez> if u put in 0 goes 2 slow?
[01:48] <Rexter> CsarGomez; lol yes how many time do i need to say it?
[01:48] <Rexter> sudo xinput --set-prop "pointer:MOSART Semi. 2.4G Wireless Mouse" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 7
[01:48] <CsarGomez> =/
[01:48] <Rexter> this command made it perfect. i need at way to run this at startup for all users.
[01:48] <CsarGomez> =#
[01:49] <cfhowlett> !cn
[01:49] <SorcerousFox> how about an upstart script?
[01:49] <Rexter> CsarGomez, I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I didn't understand your question.
[01:49] <veryhappy> Hi. Anybody tried out the ATI driver fglrx-14.301.1001 for Ubuntu 14.04 yet? While installing it said "failed to add to dkms" i just don't know if that has something to do with the fact, that my netbook is more often stuck in standby mode with the screen not turning on anymore after that.
[01:50] <Rexter> CsarGomez, please rephrase
[01:50] <milad1512> what's the programming language that most people using in ubuntu ?
[01:50] <veryhappy> Anybody got some suggestions?
[01:50] <loa> Rexter, http://www.x.org/archive/current/doc/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.xhtml#heading9
[01:50] <loa> Rexter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[01:50] <Rexter> milad1512; you can find IDE's for just about everything
[01:50] <veryhappy> milad1512: you need to know what you want to program. then you should ask yourself: what language is the best for that purpose?
[01:51] <rebeccarobertlil> what are you trying to code/program?
[01:51] <milad1512> veryhappy , is there a question like that ?
[01:52] <milad1512> very happy , the way you say it i should go learn every language that exist
[01:52] <veryhappy> milad1512: you can use java if you want your program to run on windows and linux or you are using c for some hardware programming / software
[01:52] <veryhappy> milad1512: you do yourself a favor if you learn c / java ...
[01:53] <veryhappy> that's mostly used nowadays afaik
[01:53] <Rexter> loa, thankyou for pointing me to the haystack. Are you convinces the needle I'm looking for is in there?
[01:53] <veryhappy> guys anyone who can help me with my standby mode?
[01:54] <SorcerousFox> I learned java first and then ended up wanting  to learn c and c++ but I just can't make myself do it lol. so instead I taught myself node.js and python .
[01:54] <loa> Rexter, needle? there is exact answer what you need to do.
[01:54] <SorcerousFox> veryhappy: I used to get that error on an older toshiba and it was because the firmware wasn't compatible with linux.. I don't know what exactly your issue might be though. Its been a while
[01:55] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, got about 1.5 hrs left
[01:55] <loa> just pasting command xinput somewhere is bad decision, because mouse is hotplug device.
[01:55] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, np
[01:55] <loa> create input class for your device and setup accelaration as you want.
[01:55] <veryhappy> SorcerousFox: it's when i use the netbook and put it into standby it's not coming back fully with the screen on, it's just turning on and the monitor stays black...
[01:55] <veryhappy> SorcerousFox: i've a Lenovo S205 Ideapad
[01:56] <Rexter> loa, no I see a whole lot of great info there, but not relevant to my issue.
[01:57] <Rexter> loa, for example Example: Disabling middle-mouse button paste on a scrollwheel mouse
[01:57] <Rexter> Can't say I have any use for this at this point.
[01:57] <Rexter> Could be uesfull in the future though
[01:58] <loa> Rexter, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-05%3A57%3A55.png
[01:59] <Rexter> loa; so this command works great: sudo xinput --set-prop "pointer:MOSART Semi. 2.4G Wireless Mouse" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 7
[01:59] <Rexter> I have the mouse exactly how I want it, but it's session only
[02:01] <gshmu> `function blog(){ hexo new $1 | awk '{print $5}' | xargs -t -i gedit {} & }`  not work well, any one can help me
[02:01] <loa> Rexter, http://pastebin.com/72jpGKPH
[02:01] <Rexter> loa; I read a tutorial that said to create /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-mouse-deceleration-conf
[02:02] <loa> maybe matchproduct sting need some tweak don't know
[02:03] <gshmu> I'm using hexo written my bolg, I want creat new and open the new md file by edit
[02:03] <Rexter> loa; actually MatchProduct "pointer:MOSART Semi. 2.4G Wireless Mouse" because there are two devices called that. Do you think that may be the problem?
[02:04] <Rexter> loa; do I have the path right?
[02:04] <veryhappy> SorcerousFox: any suggestion yet?
[02:04] <loa> Rexter, don't know, you must test it yourself.
[02:04] <Rexter> loa, test what?
[02:04] <SorcerousFox> veryhappy: I'm looking but not really finding anything. I'll let you know if I find something :)
[02:05] <loa> matchproduct value
[02:05] <veryhappy> SorcerousFox: very good thanks
[02:05] <Rexter> loa, the reason I'm here is because I did something wrong. So far I haven't change anything.
[02:05] <SASDOE> hey all, tried `sudo usermod -a -G syslog user` to add user to group syslog, but running `id` after that doesn't show group syslog.
[02:05] <SASDOE> Any ideas?
[02:06] <loa> Rexter, nobody cares about how your mouse called.
[02:06] <Rexter> loa, the code you provided is very similar to what I found, but I'm not sure where it goes.
[02:06] <SorcerousFox> SASDOE logout and login back in and your group change should be present
[02:07] <SASDOE> Great thanks.
[02:07] <Rexter> loa, I understand the variable, what I'n unclear on is the path
[02:07] <loa> path of conf file?
[02:08] <loa> file name must be 50-mouse-deceleration.conf not 50-mouse-deceleration-conf
[02:08] <Rexter> loa; yes, the code you gave me. i have it placed at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[02:09] <Rexter> loa, aha!\
[02:10] <Rexter> loa; /etc/X11/xorg.config.d/50-mouse-deceleration-conf   ???
[02:11] <loa> Rexter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[02:11] <Rexter> loa; this will apply to all users, right?
[02:11] <loa> Rexter, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-06%3A11%3A44.png
[02:12] <loa> yes.
[02:12] <Rexter> Yes, loa, you already provided that haystack.
[02:12] <loa> Rexter, haystack?
[02:12] <Rexter> loa, awesome, I'm going to reboot, to see hoe it works.
[02:13] <OERIAS> Allahu Akbar!!!
[02:15] <dw1> OAHU AKBAR?
[02:15] <dw1> hawaii IS nice
[02:16] <dw1> oh sorry not a chat channel :p
[02:16] <Rexter> loa; it didn't survive the reboot, I still have something wrong
[02:16] <loa> Rexter, pointer: is your problem i think
[02:16] <gshmu> can xargs work with &
[02:17] <Rexter> loa; okay. I'll remove that
[02:19] <Rexter> loa; http://pastebin.com/PUu28HSR
[02:20] <Rexter> loa; this is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-mouse-deceleration-conf
[02:20] <gshmu> `$ echo './t.md' | xargs -i gedit {} &` !== $ echo './t.md' | gedit `
[02:20] <rebeccarobertlil> samba?? good,,bad?
[02:20] <somsip> rebeccarobertlil: slow
[02:20] <loa> Rexter, again "-conf"
[02:20] <rebeccarobertlil> any recommendations?
[02:21] <Rexter> loa, xorg-conf?
[02:21] <somsip> rebeccarobertlil: depends on the need. NFS is faster but trickier to setup. with connections to WIN machines, samba is probably easiest.
[02:21] <loa> Rexter, i give up.
[02:21] <gshmu> `$ echo './t.md' | xargs -i gedit {} &` !== `$ gedit ./t.md &`
[02:22] <rebeccarobertlil> thank you very much for your advice
[02:22] <Rexter> loa, i think you mad a mistake this time
[02:23] <loa> Rexter, compare your path and this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-06%3A11%3A44.png
[02:23] <loa> yea i did mistake.
[02:26] <Rexter> loa, yes, so why did you say "-conf" I know I'm dumb, but I'm starting to think you are high.. ;)
[02:27] <Rexter> loa, It all looks right to me, so I'm gonna reboot again.
[02:29] <zykotick9> somsip: "NFS is.. trickier to setup" (then samba)?  wow, i certainly don't think so, but YMMV.
[02:31] <reisio> I do, because it is
[02:31] <reisio> they're both more complex than sshfs, though
[02:31] <Rexter> loa; well still not working. Here is my path. What am I missing? /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-mouse-deceleration-conf
[02:33] <Rexter> loa, here's the config file: http://pastebin.com/fxx9DBcT
[02:34] <loa> Rexter, try to move that file here
[02:34] <loa> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[02:34] <loa> and ffs call it 50-mouse-deceleration.conf
[02:36] <somsip> zykotick9: s/is/can/be to suit personal experience
[02:37] <Rexter> loa; well, I can move it, but I have no idea what you mean by ffs call it. I'm out of time, and you're out of patience. Thank you so much for your help. I'm going to put this off til tomorrow.
[02:39] <loa> lol, some people are strange.
[02:42] <trollolol> Rexter he means just rename the file I think!
[02:47] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, < 1/2 an hr
[02:48] <veryhappy> SorcerousFox: i don't know i think the suspend problem doesn't have to do anything with the graphics card driver...
[02:49] <veryhappy> SorcerousFox: i'm going to log off now.
[02:49] <veryhappy> SorcerousFox: thank you anyway for trying to find something, take care
[02:49] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, k
[02:50] <Finetundra_> anyone know the name of the application that you  use to manage user accounts with?
[02:51] <gogh> !kr
[02:51] <gogh> !fr
[02:52] <gogh> !kp
[02:52] <loa> Finetundra_, users-admin maybe
[02:53] <gogh> ko!
[02:53] <zykotick9> !msgthebot | gogh
[02:56] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, taking a short break, back in 15 or so
[03:01] <sacarlson> I just woke up so I'm fresh,  so hit me with some questions that are challenging today
[03:07] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, back
[03:07] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, its got a minute left
[03:08] <ObrienDave> sacarlson, if a tree falls and no one is near to hear it, does it really make a noise?
[03:08] <sacarlson> ObrienDave: I don't know I"ll have to look that one up
[03:08] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, its done
[03:09] <varunendra> ObrienDave, sacarlson, try "/var/log/treefall.log" There may be some clues there. :p
[03:09] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, where do i go from here
[03:09] <ObrienDave> imgur please
[03:11] <mrkent> I want to install ubuntu over my lubuntu. Should it just install over everything and work?
[03:11] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, here ya go http://i.imgur.com/pYd3FI4.png
[03:12] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, do i need to reboot?
[03:12] <ObrienDave> ok, take LEFT edge of sda2 and move to the front of sda6
[03:12] <Finetundra_> one sec
[03:12] <ObrienDave> that should not take long
[03:13] <ObrienDave> couple of minutes i hope ;P
[03:13] <ObrienDave> and imgur when done please
[03:14] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, it won't let me move it
[03:16] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, the only available option is to create a new partition in the unallocated space
[03:16] <ObrienDave> dang, thinking
[03:17] <Finetundra_> ok
[03:18] <zykotick9> ObrienDave: re:Finetundra_ is swap turned off?
[03:18] <ObrienDave> it's mounted
[03:18] <ObrienDave> right click on sda2 and unmount
[03:18] <Finetundra_> ok
[03:19] <ObrienDave> then do the move
[03:19] <ObrienDave> if that does not work, turn swap off
[03:20] <ObrienDave> zykotick9, yea, forgot that one, thanks
[03:20] <Finetundra_> i can't click unmount, its grayed out. how do i turn off swap
[03:21] <zykotick9> Finetundra_: "sudo swapoff -a" should work
[03:21] <ObrienDave> you still on live system, yes?
[03:21] <Finetundra_> of course
[03:21] <ObrienDave> cool
[03:22] <Finetundra_> i can resize now that swap is off
[03:22] <ObrienDave> excellent, thanks zykotick9
[03:22] <ObrienDave> it was those key looking icons, partition was locked
[03:23] <Finetundra_> yes, thank you zykotick9
[03:23] <Finetundra_> gotcha
[03:23] <zykotick9> :)
[03:24] <satelite> can i develop for android on ubuntu with openjdk or do I have to use oracle's java?
[03:24] <Finetundra_> so i guess i just go ahead and shrink whats left?
[03:24] <ObrienDave> after this you can expand sda1 to what ever size you like, then adjust sda2
[03:24] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, should i resize sda2 first?
[03:24] <ObrienDave> yes
[03:25] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, how long should that take
[03:25] <ObrienDave> hopefully just a few minutes
[03:25] <Finetundra_> cool
[03:26] <ObrienDave> moving left end of sda2 and moving right end of sda1 should be fairly quick
[03:26] <ObrienDave> it's when you have to move left end of sda6 to fill sda2, it will take  a long time
[03:27] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, how long should expanding sda1 take?
[03:27] <ObrienDave> same thing just a few minutes
[03:27] <Finetundra_> ok
[03:28] <varunendra> ObrienDave, Finetundra_ playing with the 'LEFT' edge of any partition, even if empty, has never been quick for me.
[03:28] <ObrienDave> yes, that is possible also
[03:28] <Finetundra_> cool, both were just a few seconds
[03:28] <sacarlson> satelite: I think I used eclipse with android sdk  this looks updated http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302780
[03:29] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, imgur please
[03:29] <somsip> sacarlson: using openjdk with eclipse fine here
[03:29] <varunendra> Finetundra_, amazing development in Gparted then. The last time I tried that, it took me about thrice the time it would have taken to simply copy the data of the amount of the partition size.
[03:29] <mrkent> I want to install ubuntu over my Lubuntu. Should it just install over everything and work?
[03:30] <xpistos> hey all. I need some help with something. I tried to run a smart test on my drives and my OS drive is saying it is in Pre-Fail. can someone look and my report and confirm for me - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8568451/
[03:30] <Finetundra_> here ya go http://imgur.com/tpoLF72
[03:30] <ObrienDave> mrkent, not necessary, just install the ubuntu desktop
[03:30] <satelite> sacarlson, k thx much
[03:31] <swift110-phone> Hey
[03:31] <sacarlson> mrkent: I'm sure it will work as far as hardware compatible, but I would backup your /home directory before I did it if you plan to install fresh
[03:32] <DaleK5whr> Hey Hey
[03:32] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, cool, YAY
[03:32] <ObrienDave> Finetundra_, now, which one is / sda1?
[03:32] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, so we're cool, all good?
[03:32] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, the larger one on the left
[03:33] <ObrienDave> yes so far. now sda1 does not really need to be that large because sda6 is your /home partition
[03:33] <ObrienDave> sda1 is most of the OS
[03:34] <Finetundra_> ObrienDave, actually, they're ubuntu(sda1) and xubuntu(sda2)
[03:35] <ObrienDave> ok
[03:35] <Finetundra_> so we're all set in that case?
[03:36] <ObrienDave> then just fill sda2 with sda6. this move will take a long time. and your done
[03:36] <ObrienDave> then reboot and done
[03:36] <Finetundra_> does that have to be done now or can i wait for tomorrow?
[03:36] <Finetundra_> *it
[03:36] <ObrienDave> it can wait. reboot and test if you like
[03:37] <langit> hallo guys
[03:37] <Finetundra_> awesome, you're awesome dude
[03:37] <ObrienDave> kinda old and slow but still ticking ;P
[03:38] <langit> give me tutorial for install and custom conky please... in xubuntu
[03:38] <xpistos> What does pre-fail mean in smarttools?
[03:38] <xpistos> like how long is pre-fail
[03:39] <ObrienDave> langit, http://www.getdeb.net/software/conkywizard
[03:40] <langit> oke thx, im go on
[03:40] <xpistos> Could it be saying pre-fail because the drive is almost full?
[03:41] <ObrienDave> what is the pre-fail value?
[03:41] <Finetundra> one more thing, how do you change the splash screen?
[03:42] <ObrienDave> which one?
[03:42] <Finetundra> for ubuntu
[03:42] <Sachiru> Query: Please recommend me a SSD with good write endurance (read/write speeds not that big of a priority, longevity of the device is), 120GB in size, and costs $120 and below please, for OS (not /home or /var) use.
[03:42] <ObrienDave> not sure tbh
[03:42] <Sachiru> The drive is intended to be read much write rarely
[03:43] <zykotick9> !plymouth | Finetundra
[03:43] <ObrienDave> zykotick9 to the rescue! ;P
[03:44] <Finetundra> thanks.
[03:44] <Finetundra> good night folks
[03:45] <xpistos> Obiwantje: There are three: 200, 206 and 200
[03:46] <ObrienDave> xpistos, minute please
[03:46] <xpistos> I also ran it on my 2nd drive and it "passed" but there are like 6 things that say pre-fail???
[03:46] <xpistos> ObrienDave: Sure thing
[03:50] <xpistos> sorry my touch pad is a bit sensative
[03:52] <xpistos> When I try to open the disk usage analyzer it doesn't show my sda
[03:54] <ObrienDave> sorry, i can't find what i was looking for
[03:58] <r3almode> greetings #ubuntu
[03:58]  * r3almode does the ole insomniac thing again....   
[03:59] <r3almode> I am jaded and now officially dis-illusioned
[03:59] <r3almode> not sure if that hyphen was needed there .....  but it made me feel better
[03:59] <sacarlson> xpistos: when I look at disk usage analyzer it seems it looks at the system as folders not as devices
[04:00] <Doogie44> hello all
[04:00]  * r3almode nods at Doogie44 
[04:00] <xpistos> sacarlson: it actually did come up. I forgot how i had everything mounted
[04:00] <sacarlson> xpistos: maybe sda1 just isn't mounted?  oh ok
[04:00] <xpistos> but the "pre-fail" worries me
[04:00] <xpistos> when I run the smart tools
[04:01] <r3almode> got the old S.M.A.R.T.  warning?
[04:01] <sacarlson> xpistos: ya my last pre-fail was correct,  it failed about 30 days later
[04:01] <xpistos> r3almode: yes
[04:01] <r3almode> as annoying as it can be,  I still leave that guy  on
[04:01] <xpistos> great
[04:01] <r3almode> better to know you know?
[04:01] <xpistos> yes
[04:01]  * r3almode looks around confused
[04:01] <r3almode> ^_^
[04:02] <xpistos> let me post these real quick
[04:02] <Doogie44> first time here... working on fixing an external HDD... lsusb does show it... but I simply can't seem to access it on either a linux or win machine :(
[04:02] <r3almode> try swapping the controller card Doogie44
[04:02] <r3almode> ....theres always those cats at Drive-Savers
[04:02] <r3almode> :D  that'd have to be some super cereal data
[04:03] <Doogie44> controller card?  lol not new to linux, but you got me there
[04:03] <r3almode> get yourself a known good hdd
[04:03] <r3almode> it will have to be the precise model of the target drive
[04:03] <Doogie44> ahh
[04:03] <xpistos> here are the results - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8569184/
[04:03] <r3almode> there ya go
[04:03] <r3almode> fast one :)
[04:04] <r3almode> it works about 80%  for me. I had one case where  some components inside the drive seemed to vaporize,  I just instructed the customer to live and let go
[04:04] <r3almode> :D
[04:05] <r3almode> .....just let that guy go....
[04:05] <r3almode> :D
[04:05] <sacarlson> xpistos: just move your P** video onto it and wait for it to fail.  just the ones you saw too many times already
[04:05] <xpistos> "P**"??
[04:06] <Doogie44> I would be happy just formatting the thing.... gparted does not see it.... disk utility does see it, however says that it cannot be formated... needs me to specify the size of it??
[04:06] <sacarlson> xpistos: p***
[04:06] <r3almode> Doogie44,  is your situation one of just needing a working part?
[04:07] <r3almode> or is there some sentimental attachment ot the dater on that drive
[04:07] <r3almode> got the ole remix goin there.....
[04:07] <Doogie44> don't think so... it seems to spin fine... I think just somehow corrupted
[04:07] <Doogie44> it's a WD passport
[04:08] <sacarlson> Doogie44: maybe you could try dd over the partition data,  I've had some disk with corupted partitions that dd over partition aria would fix it
[04:08] <r3almode> the most delicate component to my ( very limited ) knowledge of hard disk drives....  like the kind which I took the liberty of just assuming you had a 7200 rpm western digital caviar or some such  part left over from a shelf-sold retail   jaint?
[04:09] <r3almode> is the seeker thingy
[04:09] <Doogie44> willing to try... plz explain dd suggestion
[04:09] <r3almode> the part which actually writes changes to the platters
[04:10] <Doogie44> oh no this is not a converted drive... it is an actual external drive from the box
[04:10] <r3almode> the fact that its spinning,  while something to feel good about is but  one piece of the puzzle....  lotta pieces to that guy
[04:10] <ObrienDave> the part which actually writes changes to the platters are the read/write heads
[04:10] <r3almode> Doogie44,  I read you now
[04:10] <r3almode> get yer ole receipt of purchase
[04:10] <Doogie44> lol yeah been all over the web for the past 5 hrs or so
[04:10] <sacarlson> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdxx bs=512 count=1
[04:11] <r3almode> were you aware that hard drive manufacturers take their  products life-times  pretty  seriously?
[04:11] <Doogie44> is that the actual command
[04:11] <Doogie44> no
[04:11] <Doogie44> so I should call them?
[04:11] <r3almode> those  cats will give you a new drive.... but it gets weird when  you've purchased one from  off the shelf somewhere.... Apparently the manufacturers tend to feel  its more the responsibility of the retailer to  replace any potentially defective drives....
[04:12] <r3almode> its why i order all my parts from  resellers who  acheive a factory warranty hand-off.  Like New Egg or that  tiger site whatever it is
[04:12] <Doogie44> ah... yeah I doubt best buy is quite as generous
[04:12] <r3almode> :D
[04:12] <r3almode> Best Buy aint no hoe
[04:12] <r3almode> :D
[04:12] <Doogie44> lol
[04:13] <r3almode> they'll hook you  up bro
[04:13] <Doogie44> really I am just into the challenge
[04:13] <sacarlson> Doogie44: the actual command but I don't know what disk you are having the problem with,  I'm also not sure the bs size is big enuf but it's enuf to try assuming you plan to loose all data on the disk
[04:13] <Doogie44> yeah not a prob
[04:14] <r3almode> they  arent worried about the singular incident of a quantum wave-function collapse of fiscal  loss.... so long as  you  -  the precious customer goes back to the  Best Buy next time you  require some new thing.....
[04:14] <sacarlson> Doogie44: the system should see that after it's done as a system that is unpartitioned and allow you to then correct it
[04:14] <r3almode> there is one old trick i used to  do  years ago to get  one last read off of a failing drive
[04:14] <r3almode> but this is the stuff of legends.... from  back in the ""Big Foot"  hard drive days
[04:15] <r3almode> freeze that guy
[04:15] <Doogie44> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1058:0740 Western Digital Technologies, Inc. My Passport
[04:15] <r3almode> in a bag of course  and being very cautious not to let condensate ruin  your circuitry
[04:15] <swift110-phone> Ok
[04:15] <r3almode> Doogie44,
[04:15] <r3almode> you are using a passport hdd?
[04:16] <Doogie44> you mean the local internal drive?
[04:16] <r3almode> were you aware that there is a boot loader which has to be removed if you desire to use the drive as any type of primary logical volume
[04:16] <Doogie44> yes a usb external one
[04:16] <r3almode> think about how many times you  plugged that little drive in and HOPED  whatever computer you were at  would  see it
[04:16] <Doogie44> computer is running off an internal seagate or something
[04:16] <r3almode> I hate passports
[04:16] <Doogie44> lol me too... now
[04:17] <r3almode> interestingly though they have a rather stout drive-lock capability
[04:17] <sacarlson> Doogie44: oh usb, wonder if your having that usb3.0 bug problem then
[04:17] <r3almode> I had to use a Ruger p-90 to unlock  mine
[04:17] <r3almode> :D
[04:17] <Doogie44> I am pretty sure that I screwed it up
[04:17] <Doogie44> guess that worked
[04:18] <Doogie44> the p-90 that is
[04:18] <sacarlson> Doogie44: oh cool it's working?
[04:18] <Doogie44> okay so what command did you suggest running
[04:18] <Doogie44> the dd one
[04:18] <sacarlson> Doogie44: yup
[04:18] <r3almode> Everythings going solid state now anyways  imho....  If I was able to build a monster system  like I did when I was younger,  I would def go with multiple small-sized solid state disks
[04:19] <r3almode> why-when-I-was-yo-age.....
[04:19]  * r3almode is 34 now  :P
[04:19] <Doogie44> ssd very nice... very expensive
[04:20] <r3almode> Doogie44,  theres ways to acheive solid state data storage rather cost-effectively. Where many people go astray is getting far too large a volume from which to store their Operating System files
[04:20] <r3almode> or heck at least RAID
[04:20] <Doogie44> could you plzxspell out the dd comand again
[04:21] <sacarlson> Doogie44: what is the drive device name?  /dev/sdX ?
[04:21] <Doogie44> sdd is in my future for sure
[04:21] <r3almode> everybody feels the need to break my raid mirrors though....   they see parity-bit redundancy on the one hand.... and  combined data storage wins out in that feeble little cortex  - errr time
[04:21] <Doogie44> dev/sdb
[04:22] <r3almode> i like the idea of solid state.
[04:22] <r3almode> considering I dont even have a truly competent understanding of the old-school jaints though.... I  probably dont really need / deserve one yet
[04:22] <sacarlson> Doogie44: d if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[04:22] <sacarlson> opps lost the first d in my paist
[04:23] <Doogie44> thx give it a try
[04:23] <sacarlson> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[04:23] <sacarlson> sudo
[04:23] <r3almode> acronis while your at it
[04:23] <r3almode> dont EVER have to do this again
[04:23] <r3almode> :P
[04:25] <wayfaring> UbuntuMate is fun :-)
[04:26] <Doogie44> user@Home:~$ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[04:26] <Doogie44> dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sdb’: Permission denied
[04:26] <Doogie44>  
[04:26] <sacarlson> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[04:26] <Ben64> Doogie44: have to use sudo... and be absolutely sure you want to do that
[04:26] <Doogie44> lol
[04:26] <r3almode> I am personally seeking someone who understands IDS ( intrusion detection software ) and how to actually implement it in some way at least vaguely on-par with the way the enterprise cats at Tripwire do it.
[04:26] <Doogie44> all it will do is wipe the passport right?
[04:27] <r3almode> I really just want particular directories to be recursively checked for integrity.... binaries and  /proc really
[04:28] <sacarlson> r3almode: there is the tripwire package you can configure to be tight
[04:28] <r3almode> got myself middled one good time i did
[04:28] <r3almode> a date which will live in  infamy
[04:29] <sacarlson> r3almode: I played with it once when my website was hacked by rusians
[04:29] <r3almode> got me a ole persistent 3 way MBR/ smbios/ RAM   backdoor
[04:29] <r3almode> I had a blast though
[04:29] <r3almode> I learned more than is fair :)
[04:30] <r3almode> and I now  vehemently oppose Absolute software inc....   but thats a story for another chan
[04:31] <r3almode> sacarlson,   what  kind of problems did they cause you? :)
[04:31] <r3almode> and did Tripwire give you some peace?
[04:31] <sacarlson> r3almode: small only changed my index.html file  as I had index.php and my apache read the html first.  all other files couldn't be changed
[04:32] <Doogie44> user@Home:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[04:32] <Doogie44> [sudo] password for user:
[04:32] <Doogie44> dd: error writing ‘/dev/sdb’: No space left on device
[04:32] <Doogie44> 1+0 records in
[04:32] <Doogie44> 0+0 records out
[04:32] <Doogie44> 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.00152039 s, 0.0 kB/s
[04:32] <unopaste> Doogie44 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:32] <sacarlson> r3almode: it just had me on my toes on watch after that
[04:32] <r3almode> sacarlson,  I feel ya
[04:33] <sacarlson> Doogie44: that sounds mest up then,  maybe try dd read and see if it can even do that
[04:33] <joephilly> I run a linode ubuntu server and I am trying to install vagrant which has a dependency on virtualbox. I can't get the dang thing to work.... VirtualBox is complaining that the installation is incomplete
[04:33] <Doogie44> sorry whole command plz... not new to linux but sorta new to cli
[04:34] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | Doogie44
[04:34] <Doogie44> k
[04:34] <ObrienDave> Doogie44, use | to send output to pastebinit
[04:35] <ObrienDave> or copy and paste directly there
[04:35] <r3almode> joephilly,  I really am captivated by the whole virtualized machine arena. I lived with a senior member of the VMware dev-team in a place called Fort Collins Colorado....  he was responsible for helping acheive hardware acceleration on the VM's graphics adapter....  which is also virtualized....   sigh
[04:35] <Doogie44> k np
[04:35] <r3almode> anyway my point is this
[04:35] <sacarlson> Doogie44: I guess a read of raw data from the disk would be sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/home/you/tmp.dat  bs=512 count=1
[04:36] <r3almode> virtualization has got me burned more than once
[04:36] <Doogie44> so uh what is the read command mentioned
[04:36] <joephilly> r3almode, the only reason i'm using it is because installing graphite+statsd is a huge pain in the ass and I figured installing a vm with it already set up would be easier... its not easier so far
[04:36] <sacarlson> Doogie44: note you will have to change /home/you/tmp.dat to a real user name
[04:36] <r3almode> no free lunch
[04:36] <joephilly> r3almode, its not for production use. Just testing stuff
[04:36] <r3almode> but I do understand
[04:37] <r3almode> I would probably be doing the same thing
[04:37] <joephilly> I think im going to try docker instead
[04:37] <Doogie44> think I got that
[04:37] <sacarlson> Doogie44: so it reads but can't write?
[04:38] <r3almode> I thought I knew a couple things about I.T. and what-not...  till I lived in Fort Collins w. my friend...      this dude flashed the firmware on his microwave so the buttons wouldnt beep late at night when I got the  uhh  munchies
[04:38] <r3almode> a true wizard
[04:38] <joephilly> haha
[04:39] <r3almode> find out this cat  can read hexadecimal.....  but keeps it secret....
[04:39] <r3almode> :D
[04:39] <joephilly> r3almode, how high are you right now? jk :D
[04:39] <joephilly> winniaa is spamming me
[04:39] <sacarlson> r3almode: I can still remember that 20 is a space in hex
[04:39] <r3almode> just a bit tired....   I have a client whose webserver keeps getting turned into a proxy
[04:40] <r3almode> its quite odd really....   not so odd as to take over administrating the server or anything....   but yeah he's getting webscraped and SQL tables vomitting up all kinds of stuff it shouldnt
[04:41] <r3almode> swhy i like hand coded flawless css and html
[04:41] <r3almode> static jaints
[04:41] <r3almode> invision power board is cool and all until  you find out your slick - a web spamm king-pin
[04:42] <smacktalk> what's a good linux version for kids 8 -11 age range?
[04:42] <r3almode> and aint even know it
[04:42] <smacktalk> something to help them with math
[04:42] <r3almode> I would go with something totally off the wall
[04:42] <r3almode> like TAILS
[04:42] <r3almode> because everything "goes away"  when the machine is powered off
[04:42] <bubbasaures> !edubuntu
[04:42] <r3almode> it forces redundancy
[04:43] <sacarlson> smacktalk: any version of linux is good for kids,  it's the apps you select for them that's important
[04:43] <Toggi3> edubuntu still exists?  Surprised
[04:43] <r3almode> sacarlson,   word.....
[04:43] <Doogie44> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8572065/
[04:43] <r3almode> whats an edbuntu
[04:43] <Doogie44> pasted right??
[04:43] <r3almode> like radical ed?
[04:43] <Doogie44> education ubuntu
[04:43] <r3almode> it sounded good.....
[04:43] <r3almode> sigh
[04:44] <Toggi3> 2014, not using hannah montanna linux
[04:44] <Toggi3> I kid
[04:44] <r3almode> el oh el less than three
[04:44] <sacarlson> Doogie44: so we can't read or write.  so maybe it's an interface problem.  try take the disk out of the usb case and hook in it direct over sata or ide what ever it has
[04:45] <r3almode> i wouldnt
[04:45] <sacarlson> Doogie44: I've had bad usb interfaces before where the disk is fine
[04:45] <r3almode> the boot loader resides as firmware on a small controller card
[04:45] <r3almode> in the SLED
[04:45] <r3almode> err...  the case or whatever
[04:46] <sacarlson> r3almode: it's just a hardware interface,  the disk is still a disk
[04:46] <r3almode> sacarlson,    showurite
[04:46] <Doogie44> I just am baffled that I ubuntu can see the drive under certain commands but no tools what-so-ever can format it.......  interesting idea... we do all know that this is a little portable drive right... If I take it out of its case there will be no connectors at all I imagine
[04:46] <r3almode> Doogie44,   clearly there is a non-standard interface to those diskeses
[04:46] <ObrienDave> Doogie44, probably a sata drive
[04:47] <ybon> sacarlson: around?
[04:47] <sacarlson> ybon: yup
[04:47] <Doogie44> I believe so
[04:47] <ybon> cool :)
[04:47] <r3almode> put it in a Windows machine and that guy will fire right up.
[04:47] <Doogie44> nope done that
[04:47] <r3almode> as in plug it into a usb port  of a machine running  you kow      that os
[04:48] <r3almode> it sounded good
[04:48] <r3almode> ^_^
[04:48] <sacarlson> Doogie44: my old usb disk was an ide interface that required a micro ide to normal size ide adapter to hook it direct to my desktop computer
[04:48] <Doogie44> even tried the mini windows in  hiren's boot disk
[04:48] <ObrienDave> Doogie44, more than likely it's a 2.5" laptop sata drive with hardware encryption
[04:48] <ybon> sacarlson: so I've run the fsck with -y, and it finished, but now when I mount sda1 I see only boot and lost+found, does that mean that data has been throwed over board you think?
[04:49] <Doogie44> for sure 2.5
[04:49] <sacarlson> Doogie44: otherwise it could be the usb3.0 problem.  try another usb port that might be usb2.0 or force the usb3.0 to be usb 2.0 in bios
[04:49] <r3almode> ObrienDave,  I can vouch for the IBM-styled disk lock. methinks theres more to that controller card than a driver loader
[04:49] <ObrienDave> what brand?
[04:49] <r3almode> Passport is the model
[04:49] <r3almode> and the company is WD
[04:49] <sacarlson> ybon: ya sounds like the data is lost.  nothing you can't replace I hope
[04:50] <r3almode> but theres more to it than that.  There have been quite a few variants of the WD Passport
[04:50] <Doogie44> but it used to work... I think I screwed up the logical drive or my boy reformatted it to ext.? not sure... but it dod work once upon a time
[04:50] <ObrienDave> yup, that card encrypts that drive.
[04:50] <ybon> sacarlson: a bit sadly, but I think that the game was lost from the beginning
[04:50] <r3almode> All varying slightly in their degrees of harlotry and non-usability
[04:50] <ybon> sacarlson: so thanks anyway :)
[04:50] <Doogie44> this is older comp no 3.0 on it
[04:51] <sacarlson> Doogie44: ok cross that one out then
[04:51] <r3almode> Doogie44,  you are at a stable Linux install trying to get this drive to function?
[04:51] <Doogie44> yup
[04:51] <Doogie44> fresh install of ubuntu 14.? lts
[04:51] <ObrienDave> the drive is encrypted by that card. will not be readable anywhere else. you can take the drive out and reformat it
[04:51] <r3almode> dmesg output and also dmidecode output pastebin stat :P
[04:52] <r3almode> ObrienDave,  just hit the ole nail on the ole .... you know right there on the end of that guy
[04:52] <r3almode> head....
[04:52] <r3almode> on the head
[04:52] <r3almode> nail on the head
[04:52] <Doogie44> oh new one there.... dmidecode... okay... lets see
[04:52] <r3almode> less take down to the bare metal :)
[04:53] <r3almode> find out whats really goin own
[04:53] <r3almode> ....lemme find out
[04:53] <megaloden> anyone got an iphone 6 plus here?
[04:53] <r3almode> megaloden,  I hear those phones are FIRE though....
[04:53] <cfhowlett> megaloden, errr = ubuntu support question?
[04:54] <megaloden> this isn't ubuntu-support cfhowlett :P
[04:54] <Yrie> move it over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:54] <megaloden> btw winniaa is spamming guys
[04:54] <ObrienDave> megaloden, yes, it is Ubuntu support
[04:54] <r3almode> ObrienDave,  it runs debian guy :)
[04:54] <megaloden> ok my bad
[04:55] <r3almode> sigh
[04:55] <ObrienDave> r3almode, the controller does? lol
[04:55] <r3almode> el oh el  less than three
[04:55] <Doogie44> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8572111/
[04:55] <r3almode> niet,  no i was talking about that handset which must not be named
[04:55] <cfhowlett> r3almode, stop.
[04:56] <r3almode> I am having a look at your output guy
[04:57] <r3almode> cfhowlett, I humbly apologize for any slight or protocol infraction. God knows we need SOP around here
[04:57] <r3almode> imagine the chaos without it
[04:57] <sacarlson> Doogie44: it's broke  3.110879] Add. Sense: Internal target failure
[04:58] <Doogie44> dmidecode dump       http://paste.ubuntu.com/8572119/
[04:59] <r3almode> Doogie44,  was the Passport Drive connected via USB cable to your machine at the time you entered the dmidecode command?
[04:59] <r3almode> just trying to be thorough an all
[04:59] <r3almode> *giggle*
[04:59] <Doogie44> yup and led is flashing away
[04:59] <r3almode> kk
[04:59] <r3almode> afkbrb'
[05:01] <r3almode> Doogie44,  you see where the problem is?
[05:01] <r3almode> are you seeing
[05:01] <r3almode> what im saying
[05:01] <r3almode> :)
[05:02] <Doogie44> sacarlson... saw that b4 what is internal target failure
[05:02] <r3almode> lets find out what Sense Key hardware error is
[05:02] <Myrth> hi, i do-release-upgrade and grub-pc is asking to reconfigure boot devices. i have /dev/xvda and /dev/xvda1 - which one should i select? thanks
[05:03] <sacarlson> Doogie44: I don't know but it sounds broken to me.  I would bypass the interface to determine point of failure
[05:03] <Doogie44> lol I have been googling stuff for hours..... now it is just a matter or principal.... I wanna win hehehehe
[05:03] <cfhowlett> Myrth, grub is typically placed on the main boot drive device; /dev/sda  ....
[05:03] <r3almode> Doogie44,  you sir are fighting the good fight
[05:03] <Doogie44> bypass interface?
[05:03] <r3almode> or at least it sounds good
[05:03] <r3almode> which is often even more important
[05:04] <r3almode> and Doogie44 what about that dmesg output
[05:04] <ObrienDave> oooooo, new OP ;P
[05:04] <sacarlson> Doogie44: bypass the usb interface and go direct to the sata or ide of the disk itself
[05:04] <r3almode> did i just get shot at?
[05:04]  * r3almode looks over like neo 
[05:04] <r3almode> ....i moved like they did
[05:05] <Doogie44> r3almode   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8572111/
[05:05] <r3almode> copy that guy  brb
[05:05] <Myrth> cfhowlett: thanks. i just don't want to break cloud server..
[05:05] <Doogie44> understand the idea... but not how to
[05:05] <cfhowlett> Myrth, ask in #ubuntu-server?  They'll know more than I
[05:06] <sacarlson> Doogie44: you would need the $2 adapter to try it
[05:07] <Doogie44> ahh which adapter I will get it
[05:07] <sacarlson> Doogie44: as I had people ask me to recover data from broken laptops I already had one
[05:07] <sacarlson> Doogie44: that depends on the interface of the drive inside,  there are two posibilites
[05:08] <Doogie44> always been able to recover via live cd boot... but not this time
[05:09] <sacarlson> Doogie44: I thought this was a device failure not a system failure
[05:11] <r3almode> Doogie44,  I have a fairly verbose example of outright drive component failure.  While some of the output lines you and I read  are similar,  I still am not convinced your drive has failed mechanically
[05:11] <r3almode> here is a link in pm to an article I just grokked
[05:11] <ObrienDave> more than likely a controller failure
[05:11] <Doogie44> agreed I don't think so either
[05:17] <Doogie44> scarlson is a device failure
[05:18] <Doogie44> my machine runs fine... just not the WD USB Passport
[05:18] <nusr> hi i have to connect to an ubuntu server using a ssh client like putty. how can i connect to that server with 14.04 desktop?
[05:19] <cfhowlett> !server | nusr
[05:19] <nusr> !server
[05:20] <nusr> is there a putty equivalent for ubuntu (of course there is). what is it called? or do i do everything from the terminal  (SSH)
[05:21] <Doogie44> all right... well I will muster on... my thanks to all for their input
[05:21] <sacarlson> nusr: you can use caja or nautilus to move files over ssh
[05:22] <nusr> sacarlson: thanks. i'll check that out
[05:22] <sacarlson> nusr: gui filemanagers that you can drag and drop
[05:23] <nusr> sacarlson: i'm goolging it now and there is a putty for linux (but not on the putty website itself- just checked). i want to try and not use gui
[05:23] <sacarlson> nusr: oh you can also right click and edit files and save over ssh with caja
[05:24] <nusr> sacarlson: i'll definitely look into caja and compare with putty
[05:24] <sacarlson> nusr: I have minimal experience with putty but I think it had gui file managment
[05:25] <nusr> sacarlson: thank you so much. i'll try all 3
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[05:35] <unopaste> cholcobo- you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[05:36] <ObrienDave> *sigh*
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !ops | cholcobo- please ban for eternity - profanity, spam, channel flooding
[05:36]  * rww sighs
[05:50] <sickblobs> does Ubuntu support Macbook Pro 15" 8,2 ?
[06:00] <newbhelp> anyone here?
[06:00] <fxdx> newbhelp ping admin
[06:01] <newbhelp> why would i do that?
[06:01] <fxdx> if you need help dude
[06:02] <rww> don't ping admin if you have help, just ask your actual question
[06:02] <rww> need help **
[06:02] <fxdx> oh crap this is ubuntu, had forgotten
[06:02] <fancyfetus> hey guys
[06:03] <newbhelp> ok well i had a razor deathadder mouse, and it died, so i bought a new one razor deathadder 2013. I already had the razer tool installed but it did not recognise my new mouse because it was out of the date but the new tool does have what i need.
[06:03] <newbhelp> how do i update my old one to the new one?
[06:03] <fancyfetus> I'm not 100% sure if I can use graphics switching on my laptop with the latest version of ubuntu.
[06:03] <fancyfetus> I have an AMD Radeon 6400M
[06:03] <Asrael> If someone's available to help, I'm using 14.04 LTS and am having what seems to be a gfx driver crash after the last update. Can't get past splash.
[06:03] <fxdx> rww can answer that... he is a geek :P
[06:03] <fancyfetus> The default Xorg drivers seem to only use the integrated card, but I'd like to be able to switch between them.
[06:04] <newbhelp> just to clarify i am using this tool http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html
[06:04] <newbhelp> i have version 20 there is a newer version 30
 I use DRI_PRIME var to run on dGPU. For example: DRI_PRIME=1 glxgears
[06:06] <newbhelp> no one?
[06:07] <fancyfetus> maxis11_, I didn't quite get that.
[06:08] <sickblobs> fancyfetus, I got him, he is using the Discrete GPU by DRI_PRIME=1 command
[06:08] <sickblobs> it would ask the dGPU to do the rendering and the INtel HD graphics to display the result
[06:09] <fancyfetus> Is this using the open source XORG drivers?
[06:09] <sickblobs> maxis11_, which GPU ?
[06:09] <fancyfetus> or proprietary ones?
[06:09] <sickblobs> the ones he has installed
[06:09] <sickblobs> maxis11_, DRM_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[06:09] <sickblobs> what is the output ?
[06:10] <sickblobs> if it is Gallium he is using Opensource
[06:10] <maxis11_> Gallium of course
[06:11] <maxis11_> if you use blob, then read how to use aticonfig
[06:12] <fancyfetus> When I used fglrx, aticonfig found no drivers.
[06:12] <fancyfetus> I couldn't run catalyst
[06:12] <sickblobs> maxis11_, Does linux support automatically graphics switching ?
[06:12] <sickblobs> or do not yet
[06:13] <sickblobs> and hence we have to do DRI_PRIME=1 <app>
[06:13] <sickblobs> everytime ?
[06:15] <maxis11_> you can use /etc/environment or ~/.bashrc. BTW new kernels (3.13 and later) enables radeon.runpm by default, so try to upgrade your kernel
[06:18] <bananapi> #geaux
[06:23] <adrien_> hllo
[06:23] <Guest64512> q
[06:24] <Guest64512> quit
[06:58] <oleole> Is it possible to change the priority of network devices? I have a PCI-E WiFi card on that is connected to a WiFi network. But when I insert my USB 3G modem/dongle (mobile broadband), I would like it to take over instead of the WiFi connection
[06:58] <oleole> So my priority is: 1) 3G, 2) LAN, 3) WiFI
[06:58] <oleole> (it’s due to some firewall issues on the public hotspot I’m on)
[06:59] <ObrienDave> not sure but easy enough to click off the wifi
[07:00] <Sachiru> @oleole: Firewall/Proxy/Traffic Shaper? Tor.
[07:00] <oleole> Sachiru: Haha no - it’s not about Tor :)
[07:00] <oleole> ObrienDave: Yeah, it’s an easy solution. But I would have loved to do it automatically
[07:01] <oleole> Can I disable wifi from the command line?
[07:01] <Sachiru> No, what I mean is
[07:01] <Sachiru> If it's a firewall issue on a public hotspot, turn on Tor
[07:01] <Sachiru> Problem (usually) solved
[07:03] <oleole> Ahh, okay… But it’s not exactly what I want :)
[07:03] <oleole> But thanks anyways
[07:04] <somsip> oleole: try looking into ifdown wlan0 as a way to disable the wireless via cli. You might be able to come up with something to detect when 3g is inserted and ifdown wlan0 automatically, and to ifup wlan0 when the 3g is removed
[07:05] <jeaye> I've just installed Ubuntu 14.04 server on a Mac Mini and I want to ensure that grub is functioning correctly. If I drop to a shell, chroot into /target, and run efibootmgr, it doesn't see that efivars is setup. Manually probing efivars doesn't error, but doesn't help.
[07:06] <jeaye> Suggestions?
[07:10] <peepsalot> is it possible to increase my file limit, i'm getting 'too many open files' errors
[07:10] <jeaye> ulimit
[07:10] <somsip> peepsalot: man ulimit
[07:11] <peepsalot> root@peeps-ThinkPad-W510:/home/peeps# ulimit -Hn unlimited
[07:11] <peepsalot> bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
[07:11] <somsip> peepsalot: sudo
[07:12] <peepsalot> somsip, that was already in sudo su session
[07:12] <peepsalot> root@peeps-ThinkPad-W510:/home/peeps# sudo ulimit -Hn unlimited
[07:12] <peepsalot> sudo: ulimit: command not found
[07:12] <jeaye> peepsalot: Log in as root
[07:12] <jeaye> As in, a proper login shell (not sudo)
[07:12] <somsip> peepsalot: sudo su is not a good idea. Nor is logging in as root. Log in as a normal user and set it using sudo unlimit
[07:14] <peepsalot> somsip, set it using what now?
[07:14] <somsip> peepsalot: sudo ulimit - previous typo
[07:14] <peepsalot> when i use sudo it does not recognize the ulimit command
[07:14] <peepsalot> sudo: ulimit: command not found
[07:15] <somsip> peepsalot: what user are you logged in as? Have you su or sudo su after that?
[07:15] <peepsalot> i tried both ways
[07:15] <Asrael> If anyone's available, I need some help, I'm using 14.04 LTS and am having what seems to be a gfx driver crash after the last update. Can't get past splash, and there's no useful error messages. I'm able to login if I do xforcevesa nomodeset, but can't get anything GUI to run.
[07:15] <peepsalot> doesn't make a difference
[07:16] <peepsalot> what's wrong with sudo su
[07:17] <somsip> peepsalot: beg pardon - ulimit works on a per user basis, so sudo not needed at all http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21515463/how-to-increase-maximum-file-open-limit-ulimit-in-ubuntu
[07:17] <somsip> peepsalot: on other question  re sudo http://askubuntu.com/questions/376199/sudo-su-vs-sudo-i-vs-sudo-bin-bash-when-does-it-matter-which-is-used
[07:19] <somsip> peepsalot: short answer, sudo su does not setup the root user environment correctly. sudo -i or sudo su - will
[07:22] <sudoroomie> I can't figure out how to run a GUI program as a user without sudo privileges.  sux is no longer in the Trusty repository.  I don't want to add this user to the sudo or admin group, but occasionally would like to run programs like gnome-disks from that account..
[07:22] <somsip> !gksudo | sudoroomie
[07:22] <somsip> sudoroomie: hmmm.that's not what you meant is it?
[07:23] <Lumbendil> hi
[07:23] <sudoroomie> Right, but the problem is that even that gives me xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"
[07:23] <somsip> sudoroomie: does the user has a valid X display running?
[07:24] <sudoroomie> Yes, and I've tried to cop .Xauthority to /root, but still can't run a GUI program.
[07:24] <sudoroomie> cop/copy
[07:25] <somsip> sudoroomie: Can you start the explanation again. You have a normal user and you want to run some GUI programs as root. Is that right?
[07:25] <sudoroomie> Correct, and the normal user is not in the sudo group.
[07:25] <sudoroomie> And I don't want to add the user to the sudo group or mess around with visudo
[07:26] <sudoroomie> I would like to use a regular root password which I created with "# passwd"
[07:26] <somsip> sudoroomie: then they don't have permissions to run those programs as root. So they can't. You either fix it properly with sudoers, or those users don't have access to those programs as root
[07:26] <XforceVesa> Hi
[07:26] <sudoroomie> But I don't have Xauthority
[07:27] <sacarlson> sudoroomie: you can setup any user restricted access to only commands that you think they will need with or without a password with sudo setup
[07:27] <sudoroomie> Well, that didn't used to be the case.  You could install a program called sux and then from the terminal just use "sux" instead of "sudo -i"
[07:28] <sudoroomie> And it would transfer Xauthority.
[07:28] <somsip> sudoroomie: perhaps you're thinking of 'sudo sux' as command line options?
[07:28] <somsip> sudoroomie: no ignore that. Hit enter too quick
[07:31] <sudoroomie> I guess I could use X forwarding if I had to.
[07:31] <Lumbendil> On a laptop I have only one language configured (es) for the keyboard, but when it starts up, even though it's highlighted as if it was selected, the keyboard layout is us. I tried dpkg-reconfigure but it didn't persist the changes through a reboot. If I click the language to select it, it works as expected (es layout) but it's quite uncomfortable having to do so every time.
[07:32] <Lumbendil> anyone knows what might be going on? :)
[07:32] <kate_r> hi
[07:33] <kate_r> does anyone know if a machine could be connected to two wifi networks using two wifi adapters at the same time? if so, how would the internal routing work? e.g., could firefox go through one AP whilst chrome goes through another?
[07:36] <sacarlson> kate_r: at one point I had two ISP providers and did setup connecting to both at  the same time to attempt to get more bw.  it was only partly successful
[07:39] <kate_r> sacarlson, ooh.. it does seem a bit complicated
[07:40] <squinty> sudoroomie:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/428284/what-is-a-good-alternative-to-the-sux-command  maybe of use maybe not. :P  anyways i am off to bed so will leave it there...good luck with your project. :)
[07:41] <sacarlson> kate_r: I attempted some form of load balanceing over the two wan connections.  it was so long ago I don't even have any records of it
[07:43] <sacarlson> a single user didn't really notice any peak speed improvement as each connection as I recall still went over a single wan but mutiple links were devided over both wans with different users and some users with multi links
[07:46] <sudoroomie> Thanks squinty, my mutt is insisting on a wok, I guess I'll leave it there for the moment.
[08:00] <Lucax> anyone aquaninted with samba here?
[08:00] <sacarlson> Lucax: some
[08:01] <sacarlson> Lucax: at one point it was as easy as just right click the dir in nautilus and pick share
[08:01] <Lucax> is it still that easy?
[08:02] <sacarlson> Lucax: it's been some time since I've used it.  now I just use ssh to file share in caja or nautilus
[08:03] <sacarlson> Lucax: as I already have ssh setup and I have no restrictions as to where I can look or modify files with ssh
[08:07] <maum> hello
[08:08] <maum> I have trouble. I installed ubuntu 14.04.1 version in parallels and black screen appears after login
[08:08] <maum> how can I fix this problem?
[08:08] <Lucax> is ssh a program or something existing by default (I have ubuntu Unity)
[08:08] <ikonia> it's a package that's installed by default, yes
[08:09] <sacarlson> Lucax: ssh client is installed by default on ubuntu,  the server side is optional with just sudo apt-get install ssh ;  will install the server also
[08:09] <maum> does anyone know about this issue?
[08:10] <maum> please help me
[08:10] <maum> I am waiting for someone's help
[08:10] <sacarlson> maum: I assume it's a video driver problem,  maybe you can try propraitary drivers or if already using them try remove them
[08:11] <sacarlson> maum: strange you have any video at all if you can still see the login screen at boot
[08:13] <maum> sacarlson: thank you for your comment but I am using mac pro
[08:13] <Lucax> so ssh is an active part of ubuntu or do I have to install it?
[08:13] <Lucax> I can not find anything called ssh
[08:14] <sacarlson> maum: all the more reason for video problem but with mac it could be other problems I've never had to deal with
[08:14] <Lucax> I find SSHFP.py only
[08:14] <maum> sacarlson: ok. thank you
[08:14] <sacarlson> Lucax: you don't see ssh in repo?
[08:14] <Lucax> what is repo?
[08:15] <sacarlson> Lucax: the stuf you see in synaptic
[08:15] <ikonia> that Lucax it's where the software for ubuntu is stored for you to download
[08:15] <sacarlson> Lucax: or just in a term sudo apt-get install ssh
[08:15] <ikonia> Lucax: do you want an ssh server ?
[08:16] <Lucax> I installed one allready, I just ran the commando but since I am quite a beginner a little walkthrough I believe
[08:16] <ikonia> Lucax: what command did you use ?
[08:17] <sacarlson> Lucax: after you have a server client set you can use nautilus to connect to a server,  pick ssh and enter the ip of the server side.  after the conection asks for passwords you can save them and make a bookmark for the next time
[08:17] <maum> sacarlson: I found same issue ==> http://askubuntu.com/questions/529124/ubuntu-14-04-lts-under-parallels-graphic-distortion-after-update
[08:17] <Lucax> ok, then what is nautilus will be my next question
[08:18] <sacarlson> Lucax: nautilus is the default filemanager that you can drag and drop files and diretories
[08:18] <Lucax> aha, that's sounds quite easy
[08:21] <sacarlson> Lucax: it's the same program you would probly use for samba also
[08:21] <Lucax> I see
[08:22] <sacarlson> maum: looks like there solution was echo "xserver-xorg-video-intel hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections  echo "xserver-common hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections  ;  so I assume from that the the new software is broken and the old was working
[08:22] <Lucax> the problem is that I am so new to linux and dont understand all the terms and so on. like when you say pick ssh I think: how can I pick ssh?
[08:22] <maum> sacarlson: I did like that but same problem
[08:23] <sacarlson> maum: mybe those packages have new ppa candidates to fix them?
[08:23] <Lucax> I installed the ssh server like you said with the sudo apt get command, so now I can pick ssh and enter the ip? how?
[08:24] <maum> sacarlson: I don't know but the same problem exists after reboot
[08:26] <sacarlson> lucax: it take me time to find nice pics http://askubuntu.com/questions/34768/where-is-connect-to-server-for-ssh-connections-in-unity
[08:26] <chalcedony> Lucax boy i understand you
[08:26] <chalcedony> i just use command line or putty
[08:27] <sacarlson> http://askubuntu.com/questions/34768/where-is-connect-to-server-for-ssh-connections-in-unity Lucax
[08:28] <Lucax> would this be a way to share between one windows and one linux computer?
[08:28] <sacarlson> windows has putty that can share the same as nautilus
[08:29] <Lucax> I am looking for a way to share in a local network regardless of OS, I live in a community where we have them all, mac, windows & linux
[08:29] <Lucax> ok
[08:29] <Ben64> uh.. putty and nautilus are not the same
[08:29] <Lucax> nice
[08:29] <Lucax> thanks
[08:29] <sacarlson> Lucax: but to setup windows to share files over ssh does putty do that?
[08:29] <bakw> chalo
[08:29] <sacarlson> Ben64: they do similiar operations of shareing files over ssh protocal
[08:30] <bakw> chalo witam szyskich
[08:30] <Ben64> sacarlson: not really, no
[08:30] <bakw> wpadlem na pogawendke
[08:30] <falkowskae> halo
[08:30] <bakw> chalo emili
[08:30] <skurwiwij> CO JEST KURWA
[08:30] <hateball> !pl
[08:30] <falkowskae> CZESC KOLEDZY
[08:31] <bakw> chalo
[08:31] <gorznyz> Yo
[08:31] <Ben64> !ops | falkowskae
[08:31] <bakw> hcecie pogawendzic?
[08:31] <Lucax> what I read at the samba web pages is that samba makes this possible, could anyone testify to this? maybe I should focus on that option
[08:31] <falkowskae> CO ROBICIE
[08:31] <falkowskae> CO MACIE NA SOBIE
[08:31] <DJones> falkowskae: Please stop that
[08:31] <bakw> WALE DO DZBANA
[08:32] <skurwiwij> wojtek mówisz?
[08:32] <DJones> !pl | falkowskae
[08:32] <skurwiwij> bolo spierdolo
[08:32] <Ben64> they're all clones...
[08:32] <falkowskae> ej jaki problem macie do mnie
[08:32] <kisiels> WITAM SERDECZNIE
[08:32] <sacarlson> Ben64: oh putty is just the text ssh tool for windows.  I guess there was some other tool then
[08:32] <kisiels> UZYTKOWNIKOW CZATU
[08:32] <falkowskae> czesc sylwek
[08:32] <ikonia> ooh bad lag there
[08:32] <Ben64> sacarlson: yeah
[08:33] <Ben64> Lucax: for sharing files between windows, linux, and osx  i think samba would be easiest
[08:33] <Ben64> oh he left :(
[08:34] <sacarlson> Ben64: kids with no patiants
[08:35] <druidox87> hi guys I have Ubuntu 14.04.01 I have installed another linux distro in a partition without reinsalling the grub2, why it does not see the new installation? shoud i update grub2? if yes how to do it? thanks
[08:36] <ikonia> druidox87: they are isolated from each other
[08:37] <druidox87> i have more linux distro and grub2 see them all but not the latest linux installation, maybe is because I have not reinstalled grub?
[08:37] <ikonia> you don't need to re-install grub
[08:37] <ikonia> grub config is generated dynamically
[08:38] <Darq_> is there a way to disable animations in unity? are they hardcoded at some point? because i tried unity tweak tool and it's still pretty laggy
[08:38] <nusr> i'm trying to install python3.4 on ubuntu server 11.1 but i'm getting an error message. i tried sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install python3.4 but i get E: Unable to locate package python3.4 E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'python3.4' ubuntu2@ubuntu:~$ python3.4 No command 'python3.4' found, did you mean:
[08:38] <hateball> nusr: it's EOL
[08:38] <nusr> i'm using a terminal to ssh into the server
[08:38] <druidox87> I have installed it like all other distros but it can't see it, why?
[08:39] <sacarlson> nusr: yup eol end of life
[08:39] <nusr> hmm ..ok i'll look at what version was operational during 11.1
[08:39] <nusr> 3.2?
[08:40] <sacarlson> nusr: you will have to upgrade to newer ubuntu for support
[08:40] <nusr> hateball, sacarlson: you guys are the best..
[08:41] <druidox87> helooo
[08:41] <[joker]> hai
[08:42] <nusr> yes..python3.2 installs on ubuntu server 11.1
[08:43] <nusr> hateball; sacarlson: thanks a lot
[08:43] <geirha> nusr: On a side note, it's 11.10, not 11.1. 11.10 means it was released in month 10 (Oct) year (20)11
[08:45] <nusr> geirha: thank you. learn something new everyday
[08:46] <Darq_> What would be the best fallback for Unity without installing a second DE?
[08:47] <Yrie> fallback for unity?
[08:47] <geirha> nusr: luckily for you, the next release is 12.04 which is an LTS release, from which you can upgrade directly to the next LTS release (14.04)
[08:48] <sacarlson> Darq_: mate I guess
[08:49] <Darq_> Okay, but can I use MATE without its own programs (Caja etc)?
[08:49] <sacarlson> Darq_: no it's just the envirnment I guess
[08:49] <sacarlson> Darq_: more like the old windows xt
[08:50] <Darq_> I just need something like Unity 2D in case there is no HWA
[08:51] <ShrewdSpirit> hi
[08:51] <sacarlson> Darq_: oh like lubuntu has?
[08:51] <nusr> geirha: cheers.
[08:52] <geirha> Darq_: Gnome classic, perhaps?
[08:52] <ShrewdSpirit> I've a problem with virtualbox. I have edited fstab so partitions are mounted on startup. but virtualbox cannot find the vdi files from my partition. I add them manually but it says cannot register it
[08:52] <Darq_> what does lubuntu have? you mean lxde?
[08:53] <Darq_> isn't it the same like using mate?
[08:53] <sacarlson> ShrewdSpirit: I would think if you add a vdi disk you should be able to mount it like with nautilus in /media
[08:54] <sacarlson> ShrewdSpirit: try it that way before you try modifiy fstab
[08:54] <sacarlson> ShrewdSpirit: oh or is that what you plan to boot from?
[08:54] <ShrewdSpirit> No, I dont wanna mount the vdi file. I just wanna add it to virtualbox to load the OS but when I add it it says:
[08:54] <ShrewdSpirit> Cannot register the hard disk '/media/filesPartition/VirtualMachine/win7_.vdi' {ac23487e-91aa-47e6-8859-2b84404ef27c} because a hard disk '/media/shrewdspirit/01CFDBD5544097B0/VirtualMachine/win7.vdi' with UUID {ac23487e-91aa-47e6-8859-2b84404ef27c} already exists.
[08:55] <sacarlson> ShrewdSpirit: oh ya that's a problem you should never have two uuid that match
[08:56] <sacarlson> ShrewdSpirit: I guess you will have to modify the one you boot from first before you mount this new one
[08:57] <ShrewdSpirit> sacarlson, the file path of prev. vdi file has been changed. it doesnt exist anymore there
[08:57] <geirha> ShrewdSpirit: It just means it's already added, now you just add it to the other VM
[08:57] <ShrewdSpirit> you mean make another VM with same configuration and vdi partition?
[08:58] <geirha> Ah sorry, didn't notice the path was different
[08:58] <howlymowly> hi guys... short question: i have a problem with copying files from a USB stick beeing *very* slow  I use the backports repository , ubuntu 14.04 and kernel version: 3.13.0-37-generic #64-Ubuntu
[08:58] <howlymowly> any idea what to do about this?
[08:58] <sacarlson> ShrewdSpirit: the file path and name doesnt' change the uuid to change that http://askubuntu.com/questions/132079/how-do-i-change-uuid-of-a-disk-to-whatever-i-want
[08:59] <geirha> ShrewdSpirit: I'd consider asking in #vbox  There's probably some magic VBoxManage command you can use to rename the path
[08:59] <sacarlson> howlymowly: get smaller usb sticks
[09:00] <ShrewdSpirit> okay geirha I will ask my question there. sacarlson you mean changing UUID of vdi or the whole partition?
[09:00] <sacarlson> ShrewdSpirit: yes the uuid is the uniqu number of a partition they can not ever be the same
[09:01] <ShrewdSpirit> sorry, closed chat
[09:01] <LeMike> hello. I need some help with ALSA. while doing voip (with Yate Client) it happens that the audio becomes unsteady and sounds like someone is shaking his mic. I see that in the audio panel the "ALSA plugin yate-qt4" has a "blinking" input meter. someone got an idea how to trace this problem?#
[09:02] <sacarlson> ShrewdSpirit: yes the uuid is the uniqu number of a partition they can not ever be the same
[09:02] <gshmu> how to search "4>3>2" by google?
[09:03] <notaeon> gshmu: not really ubuntu related, but why?
[09:03] <gshmu> Exact match
[09:03] <gshmu> notaeon: I using `"` but not work
[09:03] <ShrewdSpirit> sacarlson, okay thanks, I'll try to change it
[09:04] <sacarlson> ShrewdSpirit: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132079/how-do-i-change-uuid-of-a-disk-to-whatever-i-want
[09:04] <gshmu> notaeon: Just got like 4-3-2 or 4,3,2
[09:04] <gshmu> notaeon: I'm try the advance search
[09:05] <ShrewdSpirit> sacarlson, thanks
[09:14] <Daghdha> Hi, what is this and should i be worried: no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[09:14] <Daghdha> leaking sounds pretty bad
[09:15] <Daghdha> i only have 8Gb, i don't wanna lose it
[09:15] <ikonia> Daghdha: depends what you are doing
[09:15] <Daghdha> sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 | grep 'Filesystem created:'
[09:15] <Daghdha> i did that
[09:15] <ikonia> Daghdha: or what application is calling that
[09:15] <ikonia> Daghdha: it looks like thts a 3rd party app
[09:16] <sujata> can anybody tell me how to type indian languages in ubuntu?
[09:16] <kalyani> Hello can anyone tell me how to type indian languages in ubuntu
[09:16] <XforceVesa> Hi
[09:16] <Daghdha> when i googl eit i find 2006 stuff :)
[09:17] <ikonia> Daghdha: looks like an odd old error
[09:17] <XforceVesa> .
[09:17] <Daghdha> sudo causes it it seams
[09:17] <Daghdha> seems
[09:17] <ikonia> Daghdha: run sudo -i then test it
[09:17] <ikonia> Daghdha: it's not "eating" memory
[09:17] <EriC^^> sujata: go to settings > text entry > press on "+" > add Indian
[09:18] <Daghdha> or samba, hmm https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8449
[09:19] <Daghdha> Is SAMBA integral part of ubuntu? As in; does it get automatically updated?
[09:19] <ikonia> Daghdha: it's a package set installed by default on the desktop
[09:19] <ikonia> Daghdha: I don't see why samba has anything to do with the error you jsut posted
[09:20] <kalyani> I want to enter telugu words in english it should automatically convert into telugu words like working with indic tool in windows
[09:20] <sujata> Eric: i got it but i should know the indian language keyboard
[09:20] <EriC^^> Daghdha: there's a solution in post #14 here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1257186
[09:20] <sacarlson> ikonia: Daghdha: I don't know if it's related but it was the first hit I saw with the solution being sudo apt-get remove libpam-smbpass
[09:21] <ikonia> Daghdha: run the test I suggested
[09:21] <sujata> so how can i get the indian words by typing the english word?
[09:21] <EriC^^> ikonia: seems to do with libpam-smbpass
[09:21] <ikonia> running the test will guide toward/against that
[09:22] <EriC^^> sujata: ah i see
[09:23] <Daghdha> Is anyone aware of a ctrl + key to disable borders on terminal windows? I seem to have accidently hit that and my terminal has no border anymore at left right and bottom
[09:24] <sujata> Eric : As we have worked in windows there we have install indic tool which help me to type indian word in english which gives me the particular language word  for example i tried with marathi language
[09:24] <ShrewdSpirit> guys what was the run application hotkey?
[09:27] <adasdsa> hello
[09:31] <jalal> hi i need help
[09:31] <jalal> i upgraded my system and it says file system can not be mounted...but manage to boot into console
[09:32] <jalal> but now i am getting "system runing in low gaphics mode with single session"
[09:32] <jalal> how to fix it?
[09:32] <jalal> i dont have internet
[09:33] <sacarlson> jalal: being I'm not that smart I would just backup files in /home and any other files that could not be replaced and reinstall a new system.  I prefer new installs to upgrades
[09:34] <jnhghy> since upgrading my 12.04 to 14.04 my browsers keep crushing first chrome, then I tried firefox now opera but they all are crushing (firefox is the most stable) but while I'm surffing if I hit some sites the browser gets unresponsive then restarts ... in some cases my X crashes and restarts my session .... what can I do?
[09:34] <jalal> i have my data in it
[09:34] <jalal> i cant reinstalled
[09:36] <Quatroking> hi
[09:36] <Quatroking> what is the ubuntu equavalent of windows' ctrl alt del?
[09:36] <maum> I have trouble. I installed ubuntu 14.04.1 version in parallels and black screen appears after login http://askubuntu.com/questions/529124/ubuntu-14-04-lts-under-parallels-graphic-distortion-after-update
[09:36] <Quatroking> with the phone process interrupt and everything
[09:37] <sacarlson> jalal: if you have a ubuntu iso file you could boot that from grub2 to install a fresh but if you don't have an iso copy then you might have trouble
[09:37] <Daghdha> Is there anyway to do Mono output audio on ubuntu 14.04. I have only 1 speaker on it.
[09:37] <jalal> please some one help me how do i fix sustem running in low graphic
[09:37] <jalal> i dont have iso.
[09:37] <jalal> is there no way to fix?
[09:37] <sacarlson> jalal: where there is a will there is a way
 i have tried all
[09:39] <Ben64> jalal: what are the exact error messages that come up
[09:39] <Ben64> jalal: and what did you upgrade from and to
 it say system runing in low gaphic mode
upgraded from 12.04
[09:40] <Ben64> jalal: the only error is low graphics?
 yes
[09:40] <jalal> system boot into cli mode
[09:40] <Ben64> ok, what video card(s)
[09:41] <jalal> ATI
[09:42] <Ben64> !ati | jalal
http://i.stack.imgur.com/AiwJH.png           this is the issue i am facing
[09:42] <jalal> yes
[09:42] <WilliamDotAT> good luck
[09:42] <WilliamDotAT> id recommend buying a Nvidia card
[09:42] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:42] <ShrewdSpirit> I've no problem with my ati m265
[09:42] <cristian_c> I can't mount my micro-sd card into internal card reader via sd adapter
[09:43] <jalal> before i t was working fine..after upgraded it messup
[09:43] <Giwrgaras> when you connect your google account in to ubuntu online accounts and you have a new mail, do you see a notification icon in the taskbar?
[09:43] <cristian_c> I get:
[09:43] <cristian_c> mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[09:43] <sacarlson> cristian_c: is that the only mrcro-sd that doesn't work in that reader?
[09:44] <cristian_c> sdhci-pci 0000:01:04.1: Will use DMA mode even though HW doesn't fully claim to support it.
[09:44] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:44] <WilliamDotAT> ShrewdSpirit, cheap card tend to work
[09:44] <WilliamDotAT> i never got a 7950 and 6970 to work right
[09:44] <ShrewdSpirit> I've had no luck in upgrading ubuntu to newer versions. It always broke up
[09:44] <cristian_c> sacarlson, a few micro-sd card
[09:44] <cristian_c> *cards
[09:44] <WilliamDotAT> not even thinking about multi monitor support
[09:44] <ShrewdSpirit> WilliamDotAT, its working well for my laptop
[09:44] <sacarlson> cristian_c: a few cards do or don't work?
[09:44] <WilliamDotAT> while on the other hand a Nvidia 7XX worked out of the box
[09:45] <ShrewdSpirit> WilliamDotAT, and I can use multiple monitors with highest resolution ;)
[09:45] <cristian_c> sacarlson, they don't work with this card reader
[09:46] <cristian_c> sacarlson,  a card works with an sd adapter ut not with another one
[09:46] <cristian_c> *but
[09:46] <FatTori> #gnome-design
[09:47] <sacarlson> cristian_c: so I guess the card reader is hosed or is not compatible. get a new $6 reader
[09:48] <cristian_c> sacarlson, hosed?
[09:48] <sacarlson> cristian_c: also try a few of the other ports on the computer hosed=don't_work
[09:49] <cristian_c> sacarlson, it's internal, not external
[09:49] <sacarlson> cristian_c: get an external one
[09:49] <cristian_c> lol
[09:49] <cristian_c> sacarlson, I don't know because I can't mount the card
[09:50] <cristian_c> sacarlson, card reader works, anyway
[09:50] <sacarlson> cristian_c: works on a different os?
[09:51] <jalal> no one knows how to solve?
[09:51] <cristian_c> sacarlson, different from ubuntu?
[09:52] <sacarlson> cristian_c: yes like windows....
[09:52] <sacarlson> cristian_c: older newer version of linux
[09:52] <cristian_c> ok
[09:52] <cristian_c> I haven't tried
[09:52] <enzo_> ciaao a tutti
[09:52] <cristian_c> sacarlson, ok
[09:52] <Ben64> jalal: you just need to get the right video drivers, i gave you a link to a page all about it
[09:52] <cristian_c> sacarlson, with that card obviously
[09:52] <jalal> ok i will try..
[09:53] <sacarlson> cristian_c: with all the cards as you said none of them work or so I understod
[09:54] <cristian_c> sacarlson, no
[09:54] <cristian_c> sacarlson, many cards work
[09:55] <sacarlson> cristian_c: oh some sdcards are working in this reader with the present ubuntu install?  then you can try clear the disk and reformat it
[09:56] <jalal> is there any way i can connect my dongel in cli mode?
 coz i used to connect in gui mode
[09:57] <sacarlson> jalal: wifi dongel I assume,  yes I guess we can find a script to do it
[09:57] <jalal> i dont have netwoke connect..only way if i plug dongel in..and any command for connect
[09:58] <sacarlson> jalal: maybe with 3 lines on a term if your wifi is not encrypted
[09:58] <cristian_c> sacarlson, disk = micro-sd card?
[09:58] <sacarlson> cristian_c: yes the mirco-sd becomes a disk that we would clear and reformat
[10:00] <sacarlson> cristian_c: is there some valuable data on this micro-sd?  if so I would try it in other readers.  and if that failed you can make a dd forensic image that you can maybe fix in the future
[10:00] <mortadela> ola
[10:00] <martaaaa> eeeeeeeeeeeeey
[10:00] <mortadela> que tal premo?
[10:00] <martaaaa> bien nena
[10:01] <mortadela> clasifica las impresoras!
[10:01] <martaaaa> ebola
[10:01] <martaaaa> ebola
[10:01] <mortadela> pene
[10:01] <Ben64> martaaaa: mortadela: please stop
[10:01] <martaaaa> ebola
[10:01] <martaaaa> ebola
[10:01] <martaaaa> why??
[10:01] <mortadela> atrrrrrras
[10:01] <Ben64> because this channel is for ubuntu support only. if you want to talk to yourself, look in a mirror
[10:02] <martaaaa> i dont have a mirror
[10:02] <mortadela> martaaaaaaa and me are no the same person
[10:02] <Ben64> then join #yourownchannel
[10:02] <martaaaa> stfu
[10:03] <martaaaa> you are so bored
[10:06] <cristian_c> sacarlson, but the same micro-sd card works with an external card reader, lol
[10:07] <jnhghy> how can I make chrome start with --disable-gpu by default?
[10:07] <sacarlson> cristian_c: ok then you have a solution.  some cards can be read with this reader and the sdcard can be read with another reader.  or maybe not today, did you try the other reader on this sd card today?
[10:08] <bubo> I am missing some languages in IBus. I can't set Macedonian since there is no option
[10:08] <cristian_c> sacarlson, I've tried both in these days
[10:08] <cristian_c> sacarlson, but this behaviour is  very very strange
[10:09] <sacarlson> jnhghy: I guess you could make a script file to add the param or whatever you use to start it may be modified to add the param
[10:09] <maum> please let me know sources.list latest
[10:09] <EriC^^> maum: which ubuntu do you have?
[10:09] <maum> EriC^^: 12.04
[10:10] <EriC^^> maum: ok, everything should be there already, no?
[10:10] <jnhghy> sacarlson: I use the shrotcut (desktop / dash) ...
[10:10] <EriC^^> maum: sudo apt-get update
[10:10] <EriC^^> ^^^ updates the list of packages
[10:11] <maum> EriC^^: I need the latest file
[10:11] <maum> EriC^^: update, upgrade clean doesn;t work.
[10:11] <sacarlson> jnhghy: try right click the shortcut it may be able to be modified at the box command to add the needed param you desire
[10:11] <Ben64> maum: it doesn't really change...
[10:11] <syj> can't update get in this error ,http://fpaste.org/142360/   please help
[10:11] <Ben64> maum: pastebin the error(s)
[10:11] <EriC^^> maum: what does update say?
[10:11] <bubo> I am missing some languages in IBus. I can't set Macedonian since there is no option to set it.. any ideas why?
[10:12] <ShrewdSpirit> jnhghy, write this in a script file (without quotes) "chromium-browser --disable-gpu" and chmox +x <script name>
[10:12] <maum> EriC^^: http://fpaste.org/142362/54337141/
[10:13] <jnhghy> ShrewdSpirit: thanks for the code! I guess that will make chrome start with gpu disabled only if I use that script right?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> getting a source error on updating.  can't find anything wrong to explain it. http://fpaste.org/142360/
[10:13] <EriC^^> maum: try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:13] <maum> EriC^^: I did but same problem
[10:14] <ShrewdSpirit> jnhghy, no problem. yes that will start chrome with --disable-gpu set
[10:14] <EriC^^> maum: try sudo apt-get install dpkg-dev
[10:14] <Ben64> maum: pastebin "sudo apt-get update" and "apt-cache policy dpkg-dev"
[10:14] <maum> EriC^^: http://fpaste.org/142363/41345449/
[10:15] <cfhowlett> syj: patience
[10:15] <maum> Ben64: update doesn;t work
[10:15] <cfhowlett> !patience > syj
[10:15] <EriC^^> maum: try sudo apt-get install libdpkg-perl
[10:15] <Ben64> maum: ok, still pastebin it
[10:16] <maum> EriC^^: http://fpaste.org/142365/14134545/
[10:16] <EriC^^> maum: try apt-cache policy libdpkg-perl
[10:17] <Ben64> maum: pastebin "sudo apt-get update" and "apt-cache policy dpkg-dev"
[10:17] <maum> http://fpaste.org/142366/14134546/
[10:18] <maum> http://fpaste.org/142367/13454689/
[10:18] <EriC^^> !info libdpkg-perl
[10:18] <EriC^^> !info libdpkg-perl precise
[10:18] <maum> EriC^^: Ben64  I need the latest source list
[10:18] <Ben64> again, there is no "latest" there is just one, it never changed
[10:18] <EriC^^> maum: you installed a newer package of that
[10:19] <Ben64> now pastebin "sudo apt-get update" already
[10:19] <EriC^^> maum: why do you need libdpkg-perl to be latest?
[10:19] <Ben64> fairly sure you broke something and you're not wanting to pastebin the evidence
[10:19] <EriC^^> maum: sudo apt-get install libdpkg-perl=1.17.5ubuntu5 , that will downgrade libdpkg-perl  and apt-get dpkg-dev should work
[10:19] <maum> http://fpaste.org/142369/41345477/
[10:22] <Ben64> maum: ok, now pastebin "lsb_release -a; uname -a"
[10:22] <maum> Ben64: http://fpaste.org/142370/41345495/
[10:23] <Ben64> you're not on 12.04
[10:23] <maum> 12.10
[10:23] <Ben64> then why do you have 12.04 sources and you said you were on 12.04 earlier
[10:24] <maum> it was my mistake. and I needed the latest version of souces.list .... when I installed 14.04 ... there was no problem to install build-essential etc.
[10:25] <Ben64> maum: again, there is no "latest" sources.list
[10:25] <EriC^^> maum: sudo apt-get install libdpkg-perl=1.16.1.2ubuntu7.5
[10:25] <maum> Ben64: ok then , I need to know how to fix the problem
[10:25] <EriC^^> that will downgrade your package
[10:25] <Ben64> maum: reinstall ubuntu
[10:25] <EriC^^> but you should upgrade to 14.04
[10:26] <EriC^^> if you want the latest packages
[10:26] <bubo> Anyone has any idea why I see Macedonian Keyboard layout in ibus when I login with gnome, but I don't see it when I login with i3
[10:26] <maum> EriC^^: I did but there was another in 14.04 on parallels so I reinstalled ubuntu
[10:26] <maum> another issue
[10:26] <maum> about display
[10:27] <maum> EriC^^: I did
[10:27] <maum> EriC^^: the command
[10:27] <Ben64> you're on 12.10 with 12.04 sources. you need to install fresh. no telling how much is broken at this point
[10:28] <EriC^^> maum: ok now reinstall build-essential
[10:29] <maum> EriC^^: I can install build-essential but sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev is the same problem.
[10:29] <Ben64> everything is going to have that problem
[10:29] <EriC^^> maum: Ben64 has a point there, the system is now volatile
[10:31] <maum> Ben64: EriC^^ I had http://askubuntu.com/questions/529124/ubuntu-14-04-lts-under-parallels-graphic-distortion-after-update issue when 14.04 so I downgraded
[10:31] <enzo_> ciao a tutti
[10:32] <Ben64> maum: you can't downgrade...
[10:33] <maum> Ben64: what I am trying to say to you is that I uninstalled 14.04 ... but actually it automatically deleted... on the system. and I installed the lower version 12.10
[10:33] <Ben64> maum: 12.10 is no longer supported
[10:33] <maum> Ben64: then, what is the stable version now
[10:33] <cable> stable ubuntu?
[10:34] <Ben64> 14.04 is the latest version
[10:34] <EriC^^> maum: 12.04 is the lts you want
[10:34] <EriC^^> it's supported until 2017
[10:34] <maum> Ben64: I had issue like this with 14.04 : http://askubuntu.com/questions/529124/ubuntu-14-04-lts-under-parallels-graphic-distortion-after-update
[10:34] <maum> EriC^^: 12.04?
[10:34] <cable> question what does lts mean? :p
[10:34] <Ben64> ok, well installing 12.10 and pretending it is 12.04 is not the answer
[10:34] <EriC^^> maum: yes
[10:35] <Ben64> Long Term Support
[10:35] <cable> ah thanks ^^
[10:35] <maum> EriC^^: ok, I will reinstall it
[10:35] <cable> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS is also released maum
[10:35] <maum> cable: I installed it but it causes above problem
[10:35] <cable> maum: nvm didnt say anything :).
[10:36] <cable> maum: 12.04.5 LTS is your poison :)
[10:36] <cable> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[10:36] <maum> cable: poison?
[10:37] <afidegnum> hi, please I am on fire, I have done some thing crazy I think
[10:37] <afidegnum> I did install debian wheezy which was having a dual boot... windows 7 and ubuntu... ubuntu holding the boot index where windows 7 was included. now, after installation even though windows 7 and ubuntu wasn't deleted because I had different partition for that, I can't locate the windows system boot file
[10:37] <Quatroking> how do i access a file in a folder in my terminal again?
[10:37] <Quatroking> ./foobar.txt?
[10:37] <allucinato277> i love ubuntu
[10:37] <maum> cable: please recommend some version so that I can run on my system.
[10:37] <sarius> ubuntu ftw
[10:37] <Ben64> maum: pick 12.04 or 14.04 and install it
[10:37] <bubo> Anyone has any idea why I see Macedonian Keyboard layout in ibus when I login with gnome, but I don't see it when I login with i3
[10:38] <maum> Ben64: ok, I will try 12.04
[10:38] <cable> maum: 12.04 -> 64 bit preferred :p
[10:38] <cable> (depending on your pc offcourse)
[10:38] <sacarlson> Quatroking: you could try more ./foobar.txt
[10:39] <cable> sacarlson
[10:39] <dxtr_> Hello
[10:39] <cable> issnt it vi or vim ? :p depending on your editor? :P
[10:39] <sacarlson> Quatroking: or so you want to edit it?  vi ./foobar.txt
[10:39] <cable> =) !
[10:39] <dxtr_> I need some help please
[10:39] <cable> just ask dxtr_
[10:40] <n1ghthawk> I need help as well, whenever someone has some time
[10:40] <dxtr_> I missed up with nscd and dnsmasq and now ubuntu can't connect to wifi
[10:40] <dxtr_> keep spinning but doesn connect
[10:42] <dxtr_> >cable : any idea what should i do ?
[10:42] <sacarlson> dxtr_: I'm not sure what you did to break it.  we could maybe do some term stuf to temp connect something
[10:42] <n1ghthawk> I need help fixing my brightness controlls, I can't adjust it at all
[10:42] <n1ghthawk> is there a quick solution for this?
[10:42] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: try xbacklight
[10:43] <dxtr_> sacarlson : the internet was slow so I did follow a tutorial about how to flush dns
[10:43] <dxtr_> then it disconnected
[10:43] <n1ghthawk> you just typing that into the terminal?
[10:43] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: sudo apt-get install xbacklight
[10:43] <n1ghthawk> alright, i'll give it a shot
[10:44] <sacarlson> dxtr_: what device is used to connect?
[10:44] <simbabad> Help OpenVPN not running in Trusty
[10:45] <n1ghthawk> I installed it, do I have to log out and log back in first?
[10:45] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: type xbacklight
[10:45] <n1ghthawk> k
[10:45] <dxtr_> @sacarlson : I have an HP
[10:46] <sacarlson> dxtr_: so, wifi wired.....
[10:46] <n1ghthawk> it returned 0.000000
[10:46] <dxtr_> Im using ethernet cable now
[10:46] <EriC^^> type man xbacklight
[10:46] <dxtr_> connected throught ethernet
[10:46] <n1ghthawk> k
[10:46] <sacarlson> dxtr_: ok the ehternet cable on the hp works but wifi not?
[10:46] <dxtr_> Yes
[10:47] <dxtr_> Ethernet is working and the WIfi is not , it was working before
[10:47] <sacarlson> dxtr_: did you try disconect and reconect to the wifi ac point
[10:47] <dxtr_> Yes I did
[10:47] <dxtr_> many times
[10:47] <bubo> Anyone has any idea why I see Macedonian Keyboard layout in ibus when I login with gnome, but I don't see it when I login with i3
[10:48] <n1ghthawk> What should I do next?
[10:48] <dxtr_> I reinatsllaed network-manager
[10:48] <dxtr_> still the same problem , only ethernet working
[10:48] <n1ghthawk> Sorry if I am a bit ignorant on this stuff, I just installed linux today
[10:48] <sacarlson> dxtr_: after attempted connect at term sudo iwconfig ; sudo ifconfig;
[10:49] <MosDef> Yo sup
[10:49] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: type xbacklight -set 40
[10:49] <dxtr_> sacarlson : Check ur private message for result
[10:49] <MosDef> :)
[10:50] <n1ghthawk> what next?
[10:50] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: did the brightness change?
[10:51] <sacarlson> dxtr_: ok it's not accosieted how about : rfkill list
[10:52] <dxtr_> sacarlson : rfkill list give this
[10:52] <dxtr_> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[10:52] <dxtr_> 	Soft blocked: no
[10:52] <dxtr_> 	Hard blocked: no
[10:52] <n1ghthawk> I don't think so
[10:52] <sacarlson> dxtr_: ok that looks good and ifconfig
[10:53] <dxtr_> ifconfig gave this
[10:53] <dxtr_> root@dxtr:/home/dxtr# ifconfig
[10:53] <dxtr_> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f8:a9:63:96:fa:9e
[10:53] <dxtr_>           inet addr:192.168.100.13  Bcast:192.168.100.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[10:53] <dxtr_>           inet6 addr: fe80::faa9:63ff:fe96:fa9e/64 Scope:Link
[10:53] <dxtr_>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[10:53] <unopaste> dxtr_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:53] <n1ghthawk> Should I maybe increase the value?
[10:53] <sacarlson> dxtr_: ok looks like wlan0 is down so we can try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:54] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: type xbacklight -get
[10:54] <dxtr_> command executed
[10:54] <dxtr_> should i try now ?
[10:55] <sacarlson> dxtr_: oh it wasn't down so no need last one
[10:55] <n1ghthawk> it say log file already in use
[10:55] <dxtr_> sacarlson_ : is it the driver ?
[10:55] <sacarlson> dxtr_: I don't see anything wrong so maybe we should reset network-manager
[10:56] <dxtr_> sacarlson : sudo reset network-manager ?
[10:57] <sacarlson> dxtr_: I was looking for the command it's like sudo service network-manager restart
[10:57] <sacarlson> dxtr_: I"m not sure of the spelling
[10:57] <dxtr_> ok I will check
[10:57] <e_Dregon> hello
[10:58] <edadmin> hi i need some help installing xubuntu on a panasonic cf19 mk3. it runs fine on mk1 but the mk3 gives kernel panic. im using usb drive with unetbootin and tried daily and 14.04 both same result. boots and runs fine from usb but not from hd after install completes
[10:58] <sacarlson> dxtr_: looks like I was correct udo service network-manager restart
[10:58] <sacarlson> sudo
[10:59] <n1ghthawk> any other options?
[10:59] <dxtr_> ok done
[10:59] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: i've no experience with the program, don't have it installed
[10:59] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: error seems odd though
[10:59] <MosDef> :D
[10:59] <dxtr_> now I will try again , 1 min plz
[11:00] <n1ghthawk> yea its in the program, but when I type any of the commands I get that same message
[11:00] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: try echo 40 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[11:00] <EriC^^> does the brightness change?
[11:00] <n1ghthawk> no not at all
[11:00] <n1ghthawk> ill try the echo 40
[11:00] <EriC^^> ok
[11:00] <dxtr_> hello again
[11:01] <dxtr_> sacarlson : still not working
[11:01] <sacarlson> dxtr_: well we can try wicd then
[11:01] <dxtr_> Should i unistall network manager
[11:01] <dxtr_> ?
[11:01] <sacarlson> dxtr_: also take a look after the attempted connect with iwconfig,  if posible try another wifi ac point
[11:02] <dxtr_> My phone is connected to that wifi
[11:02] <MosDef> Test
[11:02] <dxtr_> i think nothing wrong with the ac point
[11:02] <sacarlson> dxtr_: ok but if it is forced to change maybe it will start working
[11:03] <n1ghthawk> it printed the value 40
[11:03] <dxtr_> ok I will try another ac point
[11:03] <dxtr_> 1 moment
[11:03] <sacarlson> dxtr_: seems network-manger is no longer controling wifi
[11:04] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: did you type echo 40 | sudo tee...
[11:04] <EriC^^> or just echo 40 ?
[11:04] <sacarlson> dxtr_: and it is listing visible ac points is it not?
[11:05] <n1ghthawk> yes, the whole thing, and it asked for my password, and after entering that, it just printed the number 40
[11:05] <n1ghthawk> i'll try again
[11:06] <EriC^^> np hold on
[11:06] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: type cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness
[11:07] <n1ghthawk> k
[11:07] <Fyr> guys! how to make Ubuntu always use specified parameters? (--march=native -O2)
[11:08] <n1ghthawk> it gave me the value 7812
[11:08] <EriC^^> ok
[11:08] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: type echo 4000 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[11:09] <n1ghthawk> YESSSS!!!
[11:09] <n1ghthawk> totally worked
[11:09] <EriC^^> ok, 7812 is your maximum brightness
[11:09] <EriC^^> great
[11:09] <n1ghthawk> so i just have to typ in the command and adjust that number?
[11:09] <EriC^^> yeah, or you could make a script that adjusts it
[11:10] <EriC^^> like brightness <something>
[11:10] <n1ghthawk> alright, thank you so much, not sure how to make a script
[11:11] <sacarlson> you guys want to get rid of more people off #ubuntu?  just have me try to fix more peoples network nics... ha ha
[11:13] <EriC^^> n1ghthawk: no problem, hold on
[11:13] <n1ghthawk> okay
[11:13] <dxtr_> hello
[11:13] <dxtr_> didnt work
[11:14] <sacarlson> dxtr_: ok we could try install wicd, I'm not sure it's going to help anything  sudo apt-get install wicd
[11:14] <cable> sacarlson , you joker =D
[11:15] <sacarlson> dxtr_: I'm running out of ideas.  if you can turn off wifi encryption we could try connect from the comand line
[11:16] <dxtr_> Thank you anyway Sacarlson ,  I will keep diging on google
[11:18] <varunendra> dxtr_, can we see a diagnostics report of your wifi setting? I just joined the channel, but looks like you have some wifi trouble.
[11:18] <dxtr_> Yes I do Varunendra
[11:18] <sacarlson> dxtr_: maybe like iwconfig eth0 essid "nameofyouracpoint"; just to see if we can try to connect to it
[11:18] <jalal> can any one tell me how to downgrade os?
[11:18] <dxtr_> How to duagnostics report of wifi ?
[11:18] <jalal> i want to downgrade to 12.04
[11:19] <sacarlson> dxtr_: opps iwconfig wlan0 essid "nameacpoint"
[11:19] <jalal> latest update did mess up
[11:19] <varunendra> dxtr_, please try the script in this post to generate the report. Post back its pastebin link here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[11:19] <DJones> jalal: The only way to achieve that is a fresh install
[11:19] <dxtr_> Ok
[11:19] <jalal> i am not getting gui
[11:19] <jalal> only low graphic mode error and login to cli

[11:20] <DJones> jalal: Explain the issue in the channel, graphics card details, which version of Ubuntu etc, hopefully somebody will be able to help you solve it
[11:21] <dxtr_> varunendra
[11:21] <dxtr_> http://pastebin.com/QbRxtu8B
[11:21] <jalal> i have upgrade my system...now i am getting "low pgraphics mode with single session"
[11:21] <jalal> cant load gui
[11:22] <sacarlson> dxtr_: oh now the software block is active
[11:22] <bazhang> jalal, tell us the exact card, and the driver
[11:22] <varunendra> dxtr_, the "NetworkManager.state" shows "WirelessEnabled=false". Is it enabled from the NM menu (has a tick mark beside it)?
[11:22] <jalal> ATI
[11:23] <bazhang> jalal, simply repeating wont get any help
[11:23] <bazhang> jalal, there are many many ati cards
[11:23] <dxtr_> It is off now , i made it off after getting tired of trying
[11:23] <dxtr_> should i run the script again and make it on ?
[11:24] <sacarlson> dxtr_: ya try that
[11:24] <varunendra> dxtr_, obviously we need to see the stats while you are trying to make it work and it doesn't :)
[11:24] <jeremy31> looks like TKIP being used also
[11:24] <dxtr_> Okk 1 min please :)
[11:25] <bazhang> jalal, tell us the exact card, which driver you installed and from where, whether that card is old or new,  is it still supported or not, version of ubuntu etc,all on ONE line
[11:25] <dxtr_> varunendra , sacarlson : http://pastebin.com/m2hy4fwj
 i did not install anything..i install 12.04 long time ago... today i updated then after that everything mess up
 http://pastebin.com/m2hy4fwj
[11:26] <bazhang> jalal, you are not giving any of the info I asked for
[11:26] <jalal> how to find card and driver info?
[11:26] <varunendra> dxtr_, please try - "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off". Then check - "iwconfig" to make sure "Power Management" appears to be "off".
[11:26] <bazhang> jalal, I need all of that info, all on one line
 any command for get card and drver name?
[11:27] <dxtr_> yes it does
[11:27] <dxtr_> Power Management:off
[11:28] <bazhang> jalal, lspci in the terminal, put in a pastebin, do not paste in the channel
 card is ATI Mobility radeon
[11:28] <bazhang> jalal, which one, give us the pastebin
[11:29] <minimec> jalal: My guess is, that you were using the fglrx driver for your GPu in 12.04, and your card is no longer supported with fglrx in 14.04. And that might not even be that bad... ;) I would check with 'ls /etc/X11/xorg*' whether you have a xorg.conf file. If you have one, I would try to rename it with 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' and then reboot. If you are lucky, you get your GUI back...
[11:29] <dxtr_> varunendra : i will be back in  10 minutes , can yu please stay with me
[11:29] <varunendra> dxtr_, can you connect now? Could you connect it earlier with Ethernet connection on? NM prefers Ethernet and may not attempt a wifi connection if the cable connection is detected.
 i am not able to pastebin ..i am not at pshycle machine
[11:30] <bazhang> jalal, we need that info
 yes i am using fglrx
[11:31] <sacarlson> varunendra: I never thought of that due to eth0 would disable wifi.  I don't see anything wrong with wifi other than I never see it assosiate
[11:33] <jeremy31> looks like dxtr wifi 'flat9' is using WEP
[11:34] <varunendra> jeremy31, pleased to see you here. I hope I can take a quick break now. :)
[11:35] <jeremy31> varunendra: about time for me to go to work
[11:35] <setre> how can I make my super_l key a control key on Ubuntu 14.04?
[11:35] <varunendra> No problem jeremy31 :). dxtr_'s AP's are both using non-recommended encryption by the way. I just want to try one thing at a time.
[11:36] <varunendra> sacarlson, not only NM, some BIOS even tend to disable the wifi interface if a cable connection is detected.
[11:37] <jeremy31> time to go
[11:37] <sacarlson> varunendra: yes I verified flat9 is wep  so maybe we can connect with command line then
[11:37] <e_Dregon> why can't see anyone in other channel>
[11:38] <sacarlson> varunendra: iwconfig supports or did support wep
[11:38] <sacarlson> varunendra: I don't recall how to use suplicant on command line
[11:38] <Lumbendil> hi, I'm having an issue on a ubuntu 14.04 installation on a laptop. I have only one keyboard configuration defined, "es", but on reboot it's always "us", even though the language bar shows "es". When selecting "es" from the language bar, even though it's already selected, it does indeed switch.
[11:39] <Lumbendil> I've tried using dpkg-reconfigure to set the keyboard config, but it didn't persist on reboot
[11:39] <varunendra> sacarlson, every network manager I know of supports WEP. It is just not recommended anymore for two big reasons - 1) it is insecure, 2) It is inefficient (may cause speed or connectivity issues).
[11:40] <setre> damn it would be nice if keys could be rebound from the keyboard layout chart
[11:40] <setre> or similar
[11:41] <sacarlson> varunendra: but the good part is that we can use the command line to try connect sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "flat9" key xxxxxxxxxx
[11:41] <minimec> Lumbendil: Can you check '/etc/default/keyboard' and maybe adjust the "XKBLAYOUT" to your needs.
[11:41] <sacarlson> varunendra: if that fails then ???
[11:42] <varunendra> sacarlson, I don't know the exact command, but I believe that is also doable with WPA or WPA2. Probably it takes wpa_supplicant to work.
[11:42] <Lumbendil> minimec: it's set as "es"
[11:42] <sacarlson> varunendra: ya but we don't need supplicant for wep
[11:43] <Lumbendil> restarting to check
[11:43] <Lumbendil> rebooting*
[11:43] <minimec> Lumbendil: Ok. So that's ok. Now in the GUI environment, go to the keyboard settings, set es as default and remove the US one. I have to do that too with my CH layout.
[11:43] <Lumbendil> minimec: I already removed the US layout
[11:44] <sacarlson> varunendra: I"m not sure but even if the key is wrong it would or should still assosieate to the ac point
[11:44] <Lumbendil> minimec: I don't see the option to set as default though
[11:45] <minimec> Lumbendil: Hmm... strange. After that procedure I normally ok with the layout....
[11:46] <Lumbendil> minimec: I added us back, going to try rebooting/checking/removing us
[11:46] <varunendra> sacarlson, perhaps, but only for a few seconds. The "Authentication" stage comes immediately after "association", and it'll fail with wrong key.
[11:46] <sacarlson> varunendra: oh ok
[11:47] <varunendra> sacarlson, dxtr_ need to go afk, should be back in 10-15 minutes.
[11:47] <sacarlson> varunendra: so maybe that's what's wrong he has the wrong key now programed.  have her reenter the key
[11:47] <Lumbendil> minimec: how do you define one as default? by being at the top of the list?
[11:47] <sacarlson> varunendra: ok seeya
i got the GUI back after renaming xorg.conf file to xorg.conf.backup .... but only wallpaper loading..
[11:51] <vitimiti> Hi
[11:52] <minimec> jalal: ok. Do you have a second user to test, or could you ance add a new user and login. Maybe your user session config files are not working with the new unity version...
 i got complete desktop now...
 is this permament fix? or i have to do anything for testing?
[11:55] <minimec> jalal: fglrx needs a xorg.conf. Without xorg.conf the Xserver is using the opensource driver 'radeon' (in your case). So the solution should be permanent. You can even 'sudo apt-get purge fglrx*' to remove the fglrx packages.
[11:55] <newhoa> Can someone help me out with a launcher? I set up a launcher with the Exec=java -jar /home/USER/Minecraft.jar
[11:55] <trtsa> hi 2 all
 i can not open browser
[11:56] <newhoa> That works great. but I would like to add vblank_mode=0
[11:56] <newhoa> vblank_mode=0 java -jar /home/USER/Minecraft.jar works fine in the terminal.
[11:57] <newhoa> But when I add it to the launcher: Exec=vblank_mode=0 java -jar /home/darin/Downloads/Minecraft.jar it gives the error: "There was an error launching the application."
[11:59] <facepalm> newhoa, My launcher is simply: java -jar /loocation/of/minecraft.jar
[12:00] <jkbbwr> Hey all. Bloody nvidia issues. I am booting into a black screen, cant get to any other terminals and for some reason I dont have grub
[12:00] <jalal> why the ubuntu asking for" authorize ubuntu to access facebook
[12:01] <facepalm> jalal, did you add facebook to "Online Accounts"?
 no
[12:01] <simbabad> Import VPN config .ovpn failing
[12:02] <varunendra> sacarlson, we can see a few "authenticated" messages in dxtr_'s dmesg part. So the key seems to be okay.
[12:02] <facepalm> jalal, when is it asking to authorize it? On boot, when running firefox/chrome, etc?
[12:02] <simbabad> Import VPN config .ovpn failing
[12:02] <simbabad> Import VPN config .ovpn failing
[12:02] <sacarlson> varunendra: oh ok that would have be a waist then
[12:02] <simbabad> am I banned or my msg not showing??
[12:03] <Daghdha> Hi, i have connected audio devices to fron panel and rear panel but when i insert fron one the rear one stops playing. Can i configure this in ubuntu
[12:03] <facepalm> !patience | simbabad
while opening firefox..i can not open chrome.
[12:03] <zetheroo> 2 screens connected to laptop dock via display ports - ubuntu only sees one screen and it clones it on both screens
[12:04] <facepalm> jalal, check to see if any add-ons/extensions are installed to firefox which may be causing this.
[12:04] <newhoa> facepalm: Yeah, that works fine, but I need the vblank_mode=0 in there and it won't work with that even though it works fine in terminal. I just wrote a script and now the launcher points to the scrips and works fine. weird.
[12:05] <mjayk-lap> haya all i just got my first laptop, normally use desktops, is there anything different i need to do after installing ubuntu on a laptop as opposed to a desktop (14.04)
[12:05] <facepalm> newhoa, so it's working now?
[12:05] <facepalm> mjayk-lap, that depends on the laptop model, but usually no.
 i rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup    and i am purging fglrx pakage that would be fine?
[12:06] <facepalm> jalal, I don't see how that will solve your facebook/firefox issue.
[12:06] <mjayk-lap> facepalm: thanks its just a lenovo ultrabook all seams to work ok so ill presume no
[12:07] <facepalm> mjayk-lap, I image it will run great.
 ok i wil  check for addon
[12:08] <mjayk-lap> facepalm: im always impressed by the hardware support so much improvement compared to 10 years ago, thanks for the reply
[12:08] <facepalm> mjayk-lap, I totally agree, you're welcome.
[12:10] <newhoa> facepalm, yes, made a script:
[12:10] <newhoa> #!/bin/bash
[12:10] <newhoa> vblank_mode=0 java -jar /home/USER/Minecraft.jar
[12:10] <newhoa> pointed the launcher to the script. Works great.
[12:10] <facepalm> newhoa, I'm surprised you had to go through that.
[12:10] <facepalm> It's good that it works however.
[12:11] <newhoa> facepalm: Yeah, I don't know why... Exec= should be the same as entering it into terminal shouldn't it? Maybe I've missed the way launchers work.
[12:12] <zetheroo> anyone know what I can do to get Ubuntu to extend my display to my second screen?
[12:13] <sacarlson> zetheroo: that seems to be default for me the secound screen when pluged in becomes another view window
[12:13] <sacarlson> zetheroo: in the display gui you can set it to miror or not
[12:13] <zetheroo> sacarlson: I found this - it seems Linux is lacking driver support for this hardware http://askubuntu.com/questions/473610/thinkpad-w540-w-ultra-dock-only-one-external-monitor-works
[12:14] <facepalm> newhoa, I'm looking into it.
[12:16] <sacarlson> zetheroo: you sure?  did you see at >preferences>monitors  ?
[12:18] <facepalm> newhoa, did you try vblank_mode=0 /location/minecraft.jar *w/o java -jar*
[12:18] <sacarlson> zetheroo: oh so you see nothing on the output of the laptop video?  I recall I had to reboot the computer with the monitor pluged in to be active
[12:23] <jkbbwr> This is pissing me off so much
[12:23] <facepalm> jkbbwr, What's wrong?
[12:23] <jkbbwr> facepalm: I have never had a single nvidia card just *work* with linux
[12:23] <jkbbwr> its bloody annoying
[12:24] <zetheroo>  sacarlson: I fixed it  - one screen has to be plugged into the laptop and the other in the dock
[12:25] <mjayk-lap> jkbbwr: im surprised i tend to find ati to be one of my biggest problems; what things do you have to do
[12:25] <facepalm> jkbbwr, I'm sure someone here can help you eventually if you have a question about it.
[12:25] <jkbbwr> facepalm: im just gonna do a complete reinstall first :/
[12:25] <jkbbwr> and tehcnically im using elementary but their channel sucks
[12:26] <facepalm> jkbbwr, Oh.. yeah can't help there.
[12:26] <jkbbwr> facepalm: technically its ubuntu in a wig
[12:26] <jkbbwr> facepalm: so
[12:26] <facepalm> jkbbwr, I know, still not supported here.
[12:27] <jkbbwr> facepalm: im gonna cry
[12:27] <unkn-error> hello
[12:27] <unkn-error> can someone please give me a link
[12:27] <facepalm> unkn-error, To what?
[12:27] <unkn-error> to the Midnight Commander .DEB from the ubuntu official repro?
[12:27] <sacarlson> Zethrok_: ah see everything works
[12:29] <newhoa> facepalm: Didn't work without the java -jar. I'm fine with it working the way it works, it just doesn't make sense. I wouldn't worry about it except that it might be a bug, but I'm not really sure.
[12:29] <newhoa> Thanks very much for the help though.
[12:29] <facepalm> unkn-error, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/mc
[12:29] <facepalm> newhoa, sorry, I tested it myself and you're right it didn't work. My bad.
[12:31] <pixel_> hi
[12:31] <simbabad> facepalm: :(
[12:31] <unkn-error> thank you facepalm ! :)
[12:32] <facepalm> unkn-error, you're welcome.
[12:32] <facepalm> !hi | pixel_
[12:33] <facepalm> simbabad, did you have a question?
[12:33] <simbabad> !paitence facepalm
[12:34] <EriC^^> heh :D
[12:34] <simbabad> !patience EriC^^
[12:34] <Dovev> hello everyone
[12:34] <simbabad> -_- doesnt work
[12:34] <facepalm> simbabad, Yes I realized I told you to be patient. I do not know the answer to your question. Can you elaborate on it? Maybe someone else will see and answer you.
 i am facing many error when i login in sys
[12:35] <simbabad> Open VPN  installed in Ubuntu One VPN config is present
[12:35] <Dovev> is there a way to always show hidden files with dir and ls without using ls -a?
[12:35] <EriC^^> Dovev: la
[12:35] <lumia900> how good is webmin configuration for openLDAP ?
[12:35] <facepalm> Dovev, ls -al
[12:35] <simbabad> when I try to add .ovpn config file settings manager opens and closes after selecting file
[12:36] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[12:36] <Dovev> facepalm so there is no global setting where i can set hidden files to show always?
[12:36] <EriC^^> Dovev: you can use la instead of ls, if you have that alias set
[12:37] <facepalm> Dovev, not that I know of.
[12:37] <Dovev> okay. Thanks :)
[12:38] <sacarlson> simbabad: you can run it on the command line to see how far it gets  openvpn file.ovpn   or something like that.  maybe add the -v verbose
[12:46] <simbabad> sacarlson: how?
[12:46] <sacarlson> simbabad: from a terminal
[12:46] <simbabad> cmd?
[12:46] <sacarlson> simbabad: I don't know the name of your .ovpn file
[12:47] <sacarlson> simbabad: but just openvpn config.ovpn
[12:47] <sacarlson> simbabad: try man openvpn
[12:47] <simbabad> do I need to be in the file direc?
[12:47] <simbabad> hmm
[12:47] <simbabad> ok thx
[12:48] <sacarlson> simbabad: you will ether need to be in the dir or provide full path name to config
[12:48] <sacarlson> simbabad: I think it also requires sudo openvpn
[12:48] <simbabad> sacarlson: is this you btw? https://github.com/sacarlson
[12:48] <sacarlson> simbabad: yes that's me
[12:49] <simbabad> wow nice to meet you sir! :)
[12:49] <sacarlson> simbabad: why you know me?
[12:50] <sacarlson> simbabad: there are some examples in my github stuf that use openvpn
[12:50] <simbabad> sacarlson: that is not conencted
[12:51] <simbabad> I've seen your multicoin thing :) remembered that nick :)
[12:51] <sacarlson> simbabad: ha ha ya I"m famous for my multicoin
[12:54] <sacarlson> simbabad: I don't understand the not conected thing?
[12:59] <ddssc> how do I see how many cores are being used on the machine?
[12:59] <sacarlson> ddssc: one way is with top
[12:59] <manlin> ddssc: the other way is htop :)
[12:59] <MrAlex_> hey guys
[12:59] <ddssc> sacarlson: I'm using htop which shows CPU 1 and 2 but lshw says there's 8 cores. which one is true?
[13:00] <sacarlson> ddssc: I'm not sure let me take a look at mine
[13:00] <ddssc> manlin: it's what Im using and its showing me different thing than what lshw is showin me
[13:02] <sacarlson> ddssc: cool htop I never tired it.  it shows I have 4 cores that is correct with my i5 intel
[13:03] <Aravinth> hi
[13:03] <manlin> ddssc: yeah i have 8 cores and i'm trying to read through lshw output which doesn't clearly show me how many cores
[13:04] <hateball> manlin: use lscpu
[13:04] <hateball> ddssc: ^
[13:04] <t1mp> hello
[13:04] <t1mp> why is there no mencoder package in the utopic repositories?
[13:06] <manlin> hateball: aaahhh.. Yeah it shows the count correctly. there are lots of ls** commands and need to get used to them. thanks :)
[13:06] <iptable> t1mp, utopic is still beta
[13:06] <sacarlson> ddssc: I don't see anything telling me how many cores I have with lshw
[13:07] <iptable> sacarlson, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:08] <Pici> t1mp: While normally I'd say to ask in #ubuntu+1. I'll just asnwer, it looks like mplayer is no longer being maintaned and it was dropped from debian and then from ubuntu.
[13:08] <manlin> ddssc: as other people here suggested, go for lscpu, htop count, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:08] <Pici> t1mp: if you want to discuss more, feel free to ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:10] <ddssc> manlin: thanks, as is usually the case I was just reading it wrong. lshw shows like n cores but only first 2 are actually active
[13:11] <philinux> t1mp;~ mplayer is in utopic
[13:12] <philinux> it's been in all versions iirc
[13:12] <mregg> Hi all, Webmin no longer starts. If I force a reinstall, would I lose all of my settings, or should that be okay?
[13:12] <t1mp> ok, thanks. I'll check in #ubuntu+1. Pity if the packages are no longer in utopic
[13:12] <t1mp> yeah I saw that mplayer is there, but nu mencoder
[13:12] <iptable> t1mp, and yes. it is. http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/mplayer
[13:13] <iptable> oh
[13:13] <iptable> yes, mencoder not there. RIP mencoder
[13:13] <philinux> t1mp;~ yep: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+package/mencoder
[13:13] <t1mp> I liked mencoder
[13:14] <Pici> philinux: the package was deleted.
[13:14] <philinux> Pici;~ ah ok, back on topic then now
[13:15] <Pici> philinux: also, its usually better to check the publishing history if you want to see if a package was removed or not: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+publishinghistory
[13:18] <zetheroo> is there any such thing as a mini-displayport to dual displayport adapter?
[13:18] <iptable> dual?
[13:18] <cable> dual? :p
[13:18] <iptable> zetheroo, http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MB571Z/A/mini-displayport-to-dual-link-dvi-adapter
[13:18] <cable> guess so ^_^!
[13:19] <dzragon> not dual dvi
[13:19] <iptable> no
[13:19] <zetheroo> yes dual - as in 2 normal sized displayports going out (female)
[13:20] <zetheroo> iptable: link no working for me
[13:20] <iptable> zetheroo, no?
[13:20] <iptable> zetheroo, what does the link say?
[13:20] <iptable> zetheroo, you cannot connect 2 monitors to a single monitor connections slot. hence: no
[13:21] <zetheroo> link is saying something in various languages
[13:21] <zetheroo> keep changing
[13:21] <iptable> welcome to apple store :D
[13:21] <dzragon> says "apple is updating bvlablabla"
[13:21] <iptable> zetheroo, if you have VID-2X DisplayPort, you can use this: http://uk.hardware.info/productinfo/178533/sapphire-vid-2x-displayport-to-dual-dvi-display-expander
[13:21] <ses1984> if i have connected to a file server through the unity file browser, and i see it in the left hand pane under "network" is there any way to browse it via command line?
[13:22] <zetheroo> I found a mini displayport to dual HDMI ports adapter
[13:22] <iptable> zetheroo, if it's standard mini displayport, then no.
[13:22] <iptable> ses1984, yes
[13:22] <iptable> ses1984, you are actually visiting the directory that is shared? is that CIFS share (windows share)?
[13:22] <ses1984> yes it's cifs
[13:22] <zetheroo> iptable: how would I know what kind of displayport I have in the laptop?
[13:23] <ses1984> i know i can mount the cifs share but i was wondering if there was any way to use whatever connection has already been established through the unity browser
[13:23] <iptable> zetheroo, check with manufacturer
[13:23] <ses1984> i thought there was something called .gvfs or whatever hidden gnome folder that linked shares you could see in the file browser...?
[13:23] <iptable> ses1984, you can, hold on, let me find the mount link
[13:23] <zetheroo> eh - it does exist ... though it's out of stock :P http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812228017
[13:23] <ses1984> i thought there was a way to do it without performing the extra mount command
[13:24] <iptable> ses1984, as I said, there is. WAIT!"
[13:24] <ses1984> ok ok no rush :)
[13:24] <manlin> ses1984: gvfs
[13:25] <iptable> ses1984, ls /run/user/1000/gvfs
[13:25] <zetheroo> so the adapter exists - the next question is if it will let me extend my two monitors ...
[13:25] <iptable> ses1984, replace 1000 with your userid
[13:25] <iptable> zetheroo, if it works that is?
[13:26] <zetheroo> iptable: why wouldn't it work?
[13:26] <zetheroo> what is such an adapter for if not to allow two monitors to work off a single port ... ?
[13:26] <iptable> zetheroo, apparently it's a "switch"?
[13:27] <iptable> zetheroo, one at a time please kind of thing.
[13:27] <zetheroo> oh
[13:27] <zetheroo> darn
[13:27] <zetheroo> that's kind of dumb - no!?
[13:27] <iptable> no
[13:27] <iptable> it's not
[13:28] <zetheroo> it says here it's a splitter
[13:28] <iptable> some people want to hard-wire stuff and just switch whenever. That' also the way HDMI splitters work for TVs
[13:28] <zetheroo> where did you see switch?
[13:28] <iptable> zetheroo, copy the model to google. one of the first 10 results said it in the comments of the product
[13:28] <iptable> zetheroo, some people want to hard-wire stuff and just switch whenever. That' also the way HDMI splitters work for TVs
[13:28] <ses1984> iptable: thanks
[13:29] <iptable> ses1984, no worries
[13:29] <iptable> zetheroo, what's the hardware, a mac?
[13:29] <zetheroo> Thnkpad T440p
[13:29] <zetheroo> Thinkpad*
[13:29] <ses1984> iptable: there's nothing there...?
[13:29] <iptable> zetheroo, if you check the manufacturer's specifications (what you should have done beforehand), you will note the graphics card supports up to 2 monitors
[13:30] <ses1984> my uid is 1000, there's no other uid folders in there
[13:30] <iptable> zetheroo, so, no, you cannot extend
[13:30] <iptable> ses1984, so you have not mounted it yet maybe. try to access a dir inside it.
[13:30] <ses1984> im definitely accessing, browsing, playing media located on the drive
[13:30] <ses1984> on the share i mean
[13:31] <iptable> ses1984, ls -a /run/user/1000/
[13:31] <ses1984> . ..
[13:32] <iptable> ses1984, and do it as your user. also, mount command should show gvfsd-fuse in the list
[13:32] <iptable> ses1984, forgot to ask, which ubuntu version?
[13:32] <ses1984> im an idiot
[13:32] <zetheroo> iptable: I don't get it ... then why can I plug one monitor into the VGA port and the other into the mini Display port and extend them? (That is what I am doing right now)
[13:32] <iptable> ses1984, in ubuntu<12.10, it will be in ~/.gvfs
[13:32] <ses1984> its ubuntu 14.04... im an idiot because...i DID mount the share from /etc/fstab not through the file browser
[13:33] <iptable> ses1984, XD. we all make mistakes :D
[13:33] <iptable> zetheroo, ask the manufacturer
[13:33] <jkbbwr> yea bollocks to this :/
[13:33] <iptable> zetheroo, got a docking station?
[13:33] <zetheroo> iptable: yes
[13:33] <jrgill> I'm running the latest live CD in memory and seems all SysRq events besides sync are disabled.  Any way I can recover or at least write out my unsaved data?
[13:34] <iptable> zetheroo, now, if you checked the specs for the docking station for your laptop as well, you would note it has an extgended GPU, whatever that means. I will assume it has anothe grapgicsc card
[13:34] <zetheroo> iptable: 2 displayports, one HDMI, one VGA and one DVI
[13:34] <zetheroo> The dock is useles for what I wants to do
[13:35] <zetheroo> iptable: Linux lacks support for the display hub in the dock - and I tried several combinations - none work
[13:35] <iptable> zetheroo, then only the manufacturer can help you. I don't konw the specific workings of that system. and a mini-displayport, is normally a multi-stream-single-monitor port. one monitor per displayport. that's how it's wired to the GPU.
[13:36] <sacarlson> jrgill: I'm not even sure what a sysrq is.  what unsaved data do you have?  can't you just copy data onto a usb drive?
[13:36] <iptable> sacarlson, sysrq is "magic"
[13:36] <EriC^^> it's what is at the end of the rainbow
[13:36] <iptable> sacarlson, I urge you to read it, since you have an actual sysrq button on the keyboard
[13:37] <EriC^^> right iptable ?
[13:37] <iptable> uhm, almost
[13:37] <zetheroo> iptable: the only way I get two monitors extended is to plug one into the laptop VGA port, and the other into the laptop mini-displayport. There is a third way - plug one screen into the dock and one into the laptop - but the outcome is that one screen has washed out colors (the one connected to the dock).
[13:37] <sacarlson> iptable: never used it unless it's that one that I use to print screen
[13:37] <iptable> sacarlson, sysrq are direct system controls. you can force immediate reboot with either sysrq pipe to /proc OR with a special keyboard sequence.
[13:37] <rberg> s u b should still be enabled, at least it was when I did it yesterday
[13:37] <iptable> sacarlson, no, it's the one with sysrq written on it
[13:37] <iptable> modern keyboards have it
[13:38] <EriC^^> sacarlson: it can be the same as prnt scrn
[13:38] <iptable> not on my keyboard. my one is next to F10. prnt screen is F11
[13:38] <iptable> sacarlson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[13:39] <sacarlson> so how is not having a normaly useless key on a keyboard going to prevent jrgill from saving his data?
[13:39] <iptable> sacarlson, if you press the sysrq key and while holind it, you type REISUB, it will immediately reboot. it stands for (loosely), Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken :P
[13:40] <sacarlson> iptable: oh cool I did try that once but forgot the sequence when I really needed it
[13:40] <somsip> sacarlson: ALT PrintScreen if you cant find SysRq
[13:40] <iptable> jrgill, sysrq does not allow you to save data. it would be useless if you want to save actual data.
[13:40] <john_doe_jr> What is the best place to download royalty free images?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> john_doe_jr, wikimedia
[13:41] <iptable> john_doe_jr, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=royalty+free+images
[13:42] <sacarlson> john_doe_jr: just steel them, no one will notice
[13:42] <iptable> lol
[13:42] <cable> sacarlson , depending on if its a big company who needs it or not.
[13:42] <john_doe_jr> iptable: I know how to google…I just went to like a hundred places that claimed to be free and u clicked on the photo and the website asked for some money
[13:42] <zetheroo> iptable: this seems to be what I need :) http://www.startech.com/AV/Displayport-Converters/Mini-DisplayPort-Triple-Head-DisplayPort-Multi-Monitor-MST-Hub~MSTMDP123DP
[13:42] <sacarlson> cable: when they complain then steel a different one
[13:42] <somsip> !alis | john_doe_jr (if you know how to gogole, learn how to use alis too)
[13:43] <cfhowlett> john_doe_jr, let's not *steel* them - no need.  so many free resources out there.
[13:43] <cable> john_doe_jr: Are you searching for desktop images? :)?
[13:43] <iptable> zetheroo, have you got AMD Eyefinity?
[13:43] <zetheroo> no
[13:43] <john_doe_jr> cable: I'm searching for an image of a highway…
[13:43] <iptable> zetheroo, or Intel Thunderbolt?
[13:43] <thebishop> anyone got a Dell XPS 15 (9530)?  I'm interested in buying one if it runs great on Ubuntu.
[13:43] <somsip> !ot | john_doe_jr (not here, thank you)
[13:43] <iptable> john_doe_jr, can't you take a picture?
[13:43] <thebishop> also, how's ubuntu doing with hidpi screens these days?
[13:43] <somsip> thebishop: this is not the place to ask about classfieds.
[13:44] <zetheroo> iptable: is that what "Mini DisplayPort 1.2" is?
[13:44] <thebishop> somsip, i'm not trying to buy one from #ubuntu.  i just want to know if it works, friend.
[13:44] <john_doe_jr> sorry…just thought I'd ask…I know it is not an ubuntu subject
[13:44] <iptable> zetheroo, no. minidisplayport is the port spec itself. then you need a chip under it. This controller works with Thundebolt. as I said, your GPU needs to support it. check with your manufacturer!
[13:44] <somsip> !hardware | thebishop (your question was not clear, maybe this will help)
[13:45] <cable> john_doe_jr: why a high way?
[13:45] <cfhowlett> john_doe_jr, https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrBTzymyz9UMuoAaPdXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0OWZjY3VuBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDUzMV8x?_adv_prop=image&fr=moz35&sz=all&va=wikimedia+highway
[13:45] <iptable> please don't feed the subject no more
[13:45] <cable> iptable : just curious :)
[13:45] <Pici> Can we please move this to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsehwerE?
[13:45] <iptable> cfhowlett, is there a LetMeYahooThatForYou? :P
[13:45] <somsip> cable: be curious in PM then
[13:46] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:46] <john_doe_jr> cfhowlett: excellent…thank you!
[13:46] <iptable> :/
[13:46] <cfhowlett> john_doe_jr, happy2help
[13:46] <sacarlson> john_doe_jr: did you want the highway with or without trafic?  heres one that I was in see me in the white truck https://www.google.co.th/search?q=picture+highway+traffic+jam&biw=853&bih=581&tbm=isch&imgil=sMHx5GfFfSNawM%253A%253Bn17Id7WzoZFCCM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fdailysense.com%25252F2009%25252F06%25252F24%25252Fa-traffic-jam-of-ambulances%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=sMHx5GfFfSNawM%253A%252Cn17Id7WzoZFCCM%252C_&usg=__XT8
[13:46] <zetheroo> iptable: the requirements for this adapter are "DisplayPort 1.2 with MST+HBR2 support from the GPU is required for independent display output" - So I have to check if my GPU supports "MST+HBR2" I guess ..
[13:47] <cable> iptable: you're right don't feed the trolls xD
[13:47] <MMukherjee> !m
[13:48] <iptable> zetheroo, yes, like Tunderbolt. check with manufacturer
[13:48] <iptable> m?
[13:48] <MMukherjee> !ru
[13:48] <john_doe_jr> sacarlson: seriously that's you in the white truck?
[13:48] <zetheroo> iptable: what command in Ubuntu will give me make and model of my GPU?
[13:49] <john_doe_jr> uname?
[13:49] <EriC^^> sacarlson: stop playing where's waldo with john_doe_jr :P
[13:49] <thebishop> zetheroo, lspci | grep VGA
[13:49] <learts> Hi guys! How can I remap the menu key to caps lock?
[13:50] <iptable> zetheroo, lspci
[13:50] <iptable> oh
[13:50] <EriC^^> learts: xmodmap
[13:50] <zetheroo> hmm ... I already did that ...
[13:50] <zetheroo> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[13:50] <zetheroo> is that as detailed as it gets?
[13:50] <sacarlson> learts: I don't know but I know it can be done
[13:50] <iptable> that's crap
[13:50] <zetheroo> :D
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !keybinding
[13:51] <EriC^^> learts: type xev in a terminal, and press the menu button
[13:51] <iptable> zetheroo, that *might* support thunderbolt though. check with manufacturer/google
[13:51] <mad2k> hi guys i encounter the following problem with apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8574056/
[13:51] <iptable> zetheroo, if you want more detailed, use lshw
[13:51] <mad2k> any ideas?
[13:52] <learts> EriC^^: Already did that, got 135. Now I have to change it
[13:52] <EriC^^> ok
[13:52] <learts> What0s the keysymname for caps lock?
[13:52] <thebishop> iptable, i just ran lshw and didn't see any more *model* details than lspci
[13:52] <thebishop> for intell
[13:52] <learts> nvm, reading the manual
[13:53] <EriC^^> learts: xmodmap -e "keycode 135=Caps_Lock"
[13:53] <iptable> thebishop, then that is as good as it gets
[13:53] <helmut_> hi
[13:53] <thebishop> iptable, yep seems to be
[13:53] <mfoo> Hello, I have multiple mysql servers that fail with the mysql-server.5.5.40 upgrade. They all upgrade and then die with the following error: "You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ALTER TABLE user ADD column Show_view_priv enum('N','Y') CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT ' at line 1". This seems to be due to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=708176. This seems
[13:53] <mfoo>  quite bad as it is a security update. Does anybody have any preventative measures to run before an upgrade?
[13:54] <zetheroo> hmm ... not sure what to be looking for here http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/graphics/4cp-hd4600gfx
[13:54] <learts> perfect. Thanks EriC^^
[13:54] <sacarlson> mad2k: I'm not sure but it looks like a bug
[13:54] <EriC^^> learts: np, it's not persistent though
[13:54] <sacarlson> mad2k:  is this a package that you created?
[13:54] <mad2k> well that bug breaks the apt-get system because it fires whenever i want to install sth.
[13:55] <mad2k> no it must be in the repositories.. i normally run an update like every 2 weeks and this one broke it
[13:55] <lumia900> my slapcat has not configured... but how to get that configured ?
[13:55] <sacarlson> mad2k: must be an event that normaly doesnt' hapen or it wouldn't get released
[13:55] <lumia900> how to make the configuration ...
[13:56] <mad2k> is there a way to block the new kernel or sth to get rid of it?
[13:56] <sacarlson> mad2k: I guess just get rid of it or fix it
[13:56] <mad2k> even when i do "sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.13.0-37-generic" it fires the error
[13:56] <mad2k> it is stated as "half-installed"
[13:56] <sacarlson> mad2k: I would have to look at the postrm script to see what it is
[13:57] <work> hello. i have a problem with Toshiba laptop. it runs but after 1 - 2 minutes it stops, screen becomes solid color. thats all
[13:57] <mad2k> sacarlson are you sure you want to do it? i guess i could provide it
[13:57] <mjayk-lap> work: paste bin the output of dmesg
[13:57] <sacarlson> mad2k: ya that sucks but I think kernel scripts have a backup on failure that should some how work
[13:57] <derpherder> work, does this happen even if you put the livecd in and run for 1-2 min?
[13:57] <work> it has no errors
[13:58] <work> yes
[13:58] <derpherder> sounds like a hardware problem
[13:58] <mjayk-lap> +1
[13:58] <work> can i repair it?
[13:58] <derpherder> depends on what it is... open it up, check for blown capacitors. lots of dust. etc...
[13:59] <derpherder> could be overheating
[13:59] <jkbbwr> my damn box freezes on boto
[13:59] <jkbbwr> boot
[13:59] <derpherder> or over/undervolting
[13:59] <jkbbwr> this is frustrating
[13:59] <derpherder> work, is it overclocked?
[13:59] <sacarlson> mad2k: the script is probly small you could paistbin it
[13:59] <work> no
[13:59] <derpherder> yea... I'd take it apart - see if theres anything obvious
[13:59] <derpherder> otherwise I hope you have a warranty
[14:00] <sacarlson> mad2k: to do so you can uncompress the deb file with the roller thing
[14:00] <work> no
[14:00] <derpherder> I'd pull out the HDD and clone it
[14:00] <mad2k> this is the postrmd/initramfs-tools http://pastebin.com/dSFWGRWe
[14:00] <jrgill> iptable, SysRq should enable me to stabilize the system and in turn get the data.  It used to be possible...
[14:00] <iptable> uhm, how will sysrq stabilise the system?
[14:01] <mad2k> and the zz-update-grub in the same folder that fails to execute http://pastebin.com/uWFr06eh sacarlson
[14:01] <iptable> nvmind, need to go get kids form school
[14:01] <somsip> mfoo: thsi seems to be because the fix is being run twice. It might be very ugly, but appropriate, to edit the postinst script and comment out the offending fix
[14:01] <work> i tried to boot it without HDD
[14:02] <work> can reball help
[14:02] <work> ?
[14:03] <dream_> what is this
[14:03] <derpherder> reball? lol like the reusable paintballs?
[14:03] <EriC^^> yeah, point it at the computer and threaten it
[14:03] <mfoo> a "screen shot"?
[14:03] <dream_> i want study ubuntu
[14:04] <somsip> !manual | dream_
[14:04] <mfoo> somsip, yeah, thanks. I think we'll just manually manage the mysql upgrades and babysit
[14:04] <work> its for video card regeneration. you have to warm up the video card processor to temperature 300C
[14:04] <dream_> thinkyou
[14:04] <somsip> mfoo: really ugly issue for it not to have been addressed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5/+bug/1208729
[14:04] <mad2k> dream_ http://www.lpice.eu/
[14:05] <mfoo> somsip, yep. The bug report comment about permissions seems to be unrelated, or, at least, is not happening for me.
[14:05] <mjayk-lap> +1
[14:05] <work> https://www.google.com.ua/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BB&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=mdA_VOiXJNiCNMz4gYAF#channel=fs&q=video+reball
[14:06] <work> it is reball
[14:06] <dream_> thankyou
[14:06] <somsip> mfoo: I had neither today, though security-updates killed replication because slow-logging was enabled on one of my servers. Easy fix though. Good luck :)
[14:06] <emil_stdio> does anyone have an idea why my conky font / display size ( works well in precise pangolin ) gets messed up in trusty tahr?
[14:07] <mad2k> work can you shortly explain what the purpose of reballing is?
[14:08] <sacarlson> mad2k: this looks to be the error on line 19  */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
[14:09] <sacarlson> mad2k: in the file zz-update-grub
[14:09] <sacarlson> mad2k: have someone else look to verify
[14:09] <mad2k> where is the error then and how does it get there
[14:10] <mad2k> OH the ")"
[14:10] <sacarlson> mad2k: the end of the line )  I don't see it's oposite match
[14:10] <mad2k> i see... wtf dont they check the sources before they release it? (... this is not complaining about a free product ...*g* )
[14:10] <mad2k> yeah ... i just go an remove it and try to run it again i guess
[14:10] <mad2k> whats the worst case
[14:11] <sacarlson> mad2k: worst case it works and your a hero
[14:11] <mad2k> well no
[14:11] <mad2k> sacarlson is going to be my hero
[14:11] <sacarlson> mad2k: or your computer blows up and we can all laf about it
[14:11] <mad2k> see me going offine then you know
[14:12] <sacarlson> mad2k: ha ha I already got someone offline today in attempts to fix his nic card
[14:12] <mad2k> i got my backups it will just take like 30min to install it new from stick ahahaha would not be first time and i am at work so its not even wasted time
[14:13] <sacarlson> mad2k: ha ha cool blow stuf up and get paid for it
[14:14] <zetheroo> iptables: seems my machine can do what I need it to do after all :)
[14:14] <zetheroo> http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd027227
[14:14] <zetheroo> iptables: my T440p is compatible with this adapter
[14:19] <rcmaehl> My live CD of ubuntu 14.04.1 can't identify a partition on one of my drives
[14:19] <rcmaehl> How would I go about identifying it
[14:20] <sacarlson> rcmaehl: I'm not sure what that means like the uuid code is missing?
[14:20] <mad2k> sacarlson unfortunatley it doesnt work
[14:20] <sacarlson> mad2k: did you complete the ) or did you remove it?
[14:21] <mad2k> i removed it and i tried with one counterpart at the beginning of the line
[14:21] <mad2k> unfortunate i am not a programmer
[14:21] <mad2k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8574176/
[14:21] <rcmaehl> sacarlson, the partition isn't a known filesystem (FAT16/32, NTFS, EXT2/3/4 to the live cd )
[14:21] <rcmaehl> to the live cd
[14:21] <sacarlson> mad2k:  oh you tried both ways and still get a syntax error?
[14:22] <mad2k> exact
[14:22] <sacarlson> rcmaehl: oh yes then can you just remove the partiton then or does it contain something you neeed?
[14:23] <rcmaehl> sacarlson, I could technically remove it, but I'd like to see what's on it before I do so
[14:23] <sacarlson> mad2k: see we should of had someone else look at it.
[14:24] <sacarlson> rcmaehl: my guess is that you can add the needed module to read whatever it is like maybe a osx partition?
[14:24] <sacarlson> rcmaehl: or maybe a raid partion?
[14:25] <somsip> rcmaehl: how big is it? What OSes were on the HD in the past? Could it be a system/manufacturer recovery partition?
[14:26] <mad2k> sacarlson the funny thing is that he now wants the )
[14:26] <mad2k> newline unexpected (expecting ")")
[14:26] <rcmaehl> somsip, the partition is 10GB. I don't know what OSes were on before but it had been powered on 1600 times before this (according to SMART) and I'm unable to boot to it
[14:27] <rcmaehl> The partition takes the entire disk
[14:27] <sacarlson> mad2k: why can't we see the other one,  maybe in an editor I could do a search
[14:27] <rcmaehl> which is 10GB
[14:27] <mjayk-lap> ls
[14:28] <rcmaehl> Oh, googling the HDD model number tells me it's an Xbox hard drive
[14:28] <somsip> rcmaehl: that may help you then
[14:30] <rcmaehl> So basically I'm looking for the FATX filesystem packages for ubuntu now
[14:30] <rcmaehl> Not FAT16, Not FAT32, FATX
[14:30] <sacarlson> mad2k: oh I guess that how bash case function works http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_07_03.html
[14:30] <mad2k> ahahaha so stupid ..i ran it trough http://www.shellcheck.net/ and it turns out they forgot " double quotes at line 11 where they set the $DEB MAINT PARAMS
[14:31] <sacarlson> mad2k: ah  very good
[14:31] <rcmaehl> >There's no packages for FATX.
[14:33] <mad2k> nah rats now it appears when i put sudo update-grub
[14:35] <sacarlson> mad2k: oh more errors in grub configs?
[14:38] <simbabad> ubuntu openvpn errro cannot tunsetiff operation not permiteed error =1
[14:39] <mad2k> i try to run update-grub to ensure everything is fine and it asked me to do it and now that same error apperas when i run grub-config
[14:39] <simbabad> sacarlson:  ubuntu openvpn errro cannot tunsetiff operation not permiteed error =1
[14:39] <sacarlson> simbabad: did you use sudo openvpn ?
[14:40] <simbabad> yes
[14:40] <mad2k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8574254/ thats what is said after i added the " "
[14:40] <sacarlson> simbabad: I guess I would have to see the openvpn config
[14:41] <sacarlson> mad2k: I don't see any errors in that do you?
[14:41] <mad2k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8574273/
[14:41] <mad2k> thats the error
[14:42] <mad2k> and usr/bin/id is a binary file so i cant check it
[14:42] <simbabad> sacarlson: tried again
[14:42] <mad2k> also i miss the architectural linux background to understand where it is generated... i guess i just restart and hope its fine
[14:42] <mad2k> ahahaha
[14:42] <sacarlson> mad2k: it seems stupid to me why they have a case function with only a single case
[14:42] <simbabad> openvpn Initialization sequence completed and now it's stand still
[14:43] <sacarlson> mad2k: very difficult for me to understand what they try to do
[14:43] <sacarlson> simbabad: oh that sounds like it's working then
[14:43] <mad2k> i am going for a reboot =P
[14:44] <sacarlson> simbabad: try ifconfig and see if you have a new nic in the list
[14:48] <flavio_> how to make a linux bootable flashdrive
[14:48] <flavio_> ?
[14:48] <sacarlson> ha ha I think I broke my secound computer of the day with mad2k as number 2
[14:49] <simbabad> sacarlson: ah I see them
[14:49] <flavio_> who likes sons of anarchy ?
[14:49] <simbabad> also my external IP is VPN's IP
[14:49] <sacarlson> simbabad: oh it's working ah
[14:49] <simbabad> but I can't use GUI?
[14:49] <simbabad> :\
[14:49] <simbabad> what the hell is fucked up with GUI??
[14:49] <flavio_> nothing
[14:49] <sacarlson> simbabad: it may be working on gui also you just don't see any results
[14:50] <cfhowlett> simbabad, channel rules: language = no profanity.
[14:50] <simbabad> cfhowlett: ok sir
[14:50] <simbabad> sacarlson: hmmm
[14:50] <sacarlson> flavio_ wow I can't type that fast
[14:51] <simbabad> that's is strange it doesn't even ask for user auth when I try to open .ovpn file via GUI
[14:51] <simbabad> sacarlson that's is strange it doesn't even ask for user auth when I try to open .ovpn file via GUI
[14:51] <sacarlson> simbabad: it could be setup in sudo to not require password for openvpn depending how they set it up
[14:54] <simbabad> sacarlson: I dint understand
[14:54] <sacarlson> simbabad: don't understand sudo?
[14:55] <sacarlson> simbabad: I would just verify that the gui works or not.  if not just run it in a script
[14:55] <neverknow> openvpn has autologin profiles you can enable/disable that from the config tool?
[14:55] <simbabad> sacarlson: No I mean network manager doesn't show anything
[14:55] <simbabad> neverknow: hmmm
[14:55] <simbabad> neverknow: my config file doesnt have autologin
[14:56] <sacarlson> simbabad: ya no feed back,  just look at ifconfig to verify it works or not
[14:56] <simbabad> sacarlson: darn that's not how it used to work
[14:56] <neverknow> you could of course always just shellshock the openvpn setup :P
[14:57] <simbabad> neverknow: what's shellshock? :o
[14:57] <neverknow> nevermind <- trolling
[14:57] <daos> http://seclists.org/bugtraq/1996/Sep/33
[14:57] <daos> ^shellshock
[14:59] <think> >shock
[15:00] <Pici> daos: btw, I spoke with the maintainer for the ssl packages and he confirmed that there will be new packages landing at some point.  They were being built for -proposed last I looked.
[15:00] <daos> Pici: awesome thank you for the update
[15:00] <think> Pici: sweeeet
[15:06] <zuka8> Hello, in comparing two sources.list files one of them has two additional lines:
[15:06] <zuka8> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security main universe restricted multiverse
[15:06] <zuka8> deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-proposed main universe restricted multiverse
[15:08] <sacarlson> zuka8: I guess multiverse is optional in that checkbox thing in synaptic?
[15:08] <zuka8> i am sure i want to get rid of the second (trusty-proposed), but not sure of the first. can you please explain to me the first?
[15:08] <sacarlson> opps
[15:08] <zuka8> sacarlson: so it's unnecessary?
[15:09] <zuka8> sacarlson: i am worried to get rid of it because it's "security"
[15:09] <sacarlson> zuka8: I don't know, nothing is nesisary
[15:09] <EriC^^> zuka8: first one is the important security updates
[15:09] <EriC^^> zuka8: dash > software & updates > updates
[15:10] <zuka8> EriC^^: but if first one is important, why is it not in the other sources.list file (which is default) ?
[15:10] <sacarlson> i guess the trusty-proposed was an adition of a newer version
[15:11] <EriC^^> zuka8: good question :)
[15:11] <EriC^^> zuka8: i think trusty-updates is selected by default..
[15:11] <EriC^^> i mean trusty-security
[15:11] <zuka8> there are six other lines with trusty-security but not that one
[15:12] <zuka8> what is this : deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-proposed main universe restricted multiverse
[15:12] <zuka8> oops ...
[15:12] <Pici> zuka8: proposed updates that have not been fully tested yet.
[15:13] <zuka8> i meant what is this: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security main universe restricted multiverse
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> zuka8: if you read the sources.list file, you will see the caveats with the proposed sources if you enable them
[15:13] <Pici> zuka8: You may want to look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories#A_Quick.2C_Tongue-in-cheek_Description_of_the_Ubuntu_Repositories
[15:13] <zuka8> i am trying to understand...
[15:14] <nullbyte_> 14.10 is freezed to 26oct
[15:14] <EriC^^> zuka8: i have the same line in my sources.list, what are the other 6 lines you are talking about?
[15:14] <EriC^^> ( paste in paste.ubuntu.com please )
[15:16] <irreverant> is there an effective way to get a passwords list from a ubuntu 6 box?
[15:16] <EriC^^> irreverant: passwords list?
[15:16] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu 6?
[15:16] <EriC^^> ^^
[15:16] <irreverant> well really passwords list from a filezilla server running on ubuntu 6
[15:17] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu 6?
[15:17] <EriC^^> lol
[15:17] <Pici> irreverant: I didn't think that there was a linux version of filezilla server.
[15:18] <btorch> anyone here uses pbuilder on trusty and has issues building a precise image ? it works fine building a lucid image but has debconf issues when trying precise
[15:18] <zuka8> six other lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8574454/
[15:18] <zuka8> EriC^^: six other lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8574454/
[15:18] <michael_j_p> After upgrading to 14.x, I can't format an SD card mount by right clicking anymore.  Does one have to now use gparted ?
[15:19] <sacarlson> irreverant: there is a file /etc/passwords  and /etc/shadows   but I'm not sure I'm on the same page
[15:19] <Pici> zuka8: You can combine lines in your sources.list if they have the same url and repo.
[15:19] <zuka8> this one is not there: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security main universe restricted multiverse
[15:20] <PrydeRage> Hey guys. I have a "Medion akoya" laptop with an integrated webcam and I don't know which driver to use. Can you guys help me? (Sorry but I don't know the exact model name of my laptop)
[15:20] <zuka8> ok
[15:20] <Pici> zuka8: those six lines are the same thing as the line you just pasted. They are equivalent.
[15:20] <zuka8> they are the same?
[15:20] <EriC^^> zuka8: yeah, i think you can just leave the first one you pasted ( with main restricted universe multiverse )
[15:21] <loa> michael_j_p, you can try ubuntu disks utility.
[15:21] <Pici> zuka8: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8574458/
[15:24] <zuka8> Pici: ahhh ok i understand, thanks. sorry for stupid question. but then what i dont understand is why in the other sources.list file there's a repetition?
[15:25] <zuka8> Pici: i mean in the other one there are those six lines plus the other one
[15:25] <Pici> zuka8: No idea.
[15:25] <zuka8> it does not make sense, so i can take it away?
[15:27] <ObrienDave> irreverant, the question remains, what is Ubuntu 6?
[15:27] <sacarlson> ObrienDave: I would assume ubuntu 6 is like 2006 version of ubuntu
[15:27] <zuka8> last question: why is it written sometimes # (just one time) and sometimes ## (two times)?
[15:28] <zuka8> the comment character #
[15:28] <ObrienDave> sacarlson, i would not assume anything at this point :)
[15:28] <sacarlson> zuka8: oh oh I know that one.  in md files the more ## the smaller the fonts
[15:28] <Pici> zuka8: Just for formatting. It has no other use.
[15:29] <zuka8> there is no difference?
[15:29] <sacarlson> ObrienDave: when no one tells me I have to fill in the blanks or nothing gets done
[15:29] <Pici> zuka8: no difference.
[15:29] <Pici> zuka8: # = ## = ######################
[15:29] <zuka8> sacarlson: i dont understand what you wrote
[15:30] <irreverant> Yes an old version of ubuntu
[15:30] <zuka8> Pici is the best at getting beginners to understand :)
[15:30] <ObrienDave> zuka8, it does NOT matter how many # are in the line
[15:30] <irreverant> similar to like ubunto 12.04
[15:30] <zuka8> thank you everybody
[15:31] <ObrienDave> zuka8, anything after the 1st # is a comment
[15:31] <sacarlson> zuka8: in md files like in github.com readme.md files they convert md files into html whre ## are control of h1 h2 fonts in html
[15:31] <simbabad> neverknow: sacarlson http://news.softpedia.com/news/OpenVPN-Import-Broken-in-Ubuntu-14-04-LTS-441601.shtml
[15:31] <simbabad> :( :(
[15:31] <Pici> zuka8: what sacarlson is talking about is somewhat irrelevant for what you are asking
[15:32] <sacarlson> simbabad: oh so now you fixed it
[15:32] <sacarlson> zuka8: like in the readme.md in this example of github.com https://github.com/sacarlson/mini-isp.debpackage
[15:33] <simbabad> sacarlson: ?
[15:33] <sacarlson> simbabad: well you got your openvpn config to work so you found a workaround
[15:33] <simbabad> lol :D
[15:34] <sacarlson> Pici: yes I think pici is correct zuka8 I may have misunderstood
[15:36] <zuka8> sacarlson: ok, well thanks anyways
[15:36] <zuka8> and there is no difference in putting the # (whatever it is called) in front or just erase the whole line?
[15:38] <zuka8> OK i hhave to go, thank you everybody
[15:44] <alexa> why is so quite here?
[15:45] <Pici> Everything is working.
[15:49] <khamer> Is it possible for 'gtk' to crash? When I disconnect my secondary monitor, my gtk2 theme kinda goes away and it looks like its falling back to rendering like, gtk1 decorations
[15:49] <khamer> I've done a tail -F /var/log/* and there's no messages happening when this happens
[15:55] <user39211> Using Lubuntu 10.04.    I compiled bash 4.3 from source and applied the 30 security patches and installed it over my old bash version 4.1.5(1).   Will this cause any problems, as I didn't apt-get the updates from the repo. ??
[15:57] <user39211> I tested my new bash 4.3 for vulnerabilities to the shellshock exploit and it's showing not vulnerable.
[15:57] <sacarlson> user39211: I would assume lubuntu 10.04 is already End Of Life  but it was one of my vaves
[15:58] <user39211> so far so good, won't know until i reboot and use it for a while.
[15:58] <SchrodingersScat> yes, very EOL
[15:58] <Pici> 10.04 server is still supported.
[15:59] <user39211> it's running great for an old distro
[15:59] <NoahYdr> Hey
[16:00] <NoahYdr> How do I access Ubuntu Server using SSH?
[16:00] <sacarlson> Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) Desktop End of Life reached on May 9, 2013
[16:00] <hggdh> NoahYdr: first install openssh-server on the server
[16:00] <NoahYdr> hggdh, then?
[16:00] <SchrodingersScat> ssh user@server
[16:01] <hggdh> NoahYdr: then ssh over to it
[16:01] <NoahYdr> hggdh, I can't.
[16:01] <NoahYdr> I am trying using PuTTy and using the IP in ifconfig, but it doesn't works.
[16:02] <hggdh> NoahYdr: and what does putty say when it fails?
[16:02] <SchrodingersScat> NoahYdr: is there a firewall between you and the machine?
[16:02] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: can you ping the same ip address?
[16:02] <drmagoo> how do I get iptables to log to a specific file ? I get the rule bit, but I cant see that it wrote to any file in /var/log
[16:02] <NoahYdr> hggdh, "Timeout"
[16:02] <NoahYdr> SchrodingersScat, Idk.
[16:03] <NoahYdr> sacarlson, How?
[16:03] <hggdh> NoahYdr: then what SchrodingersScat and sacarlson asked apply
[16:03] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: from a term  you should be able to  $ ping 192.168.2.x  or whatever your ssh server ip is
[16:04] <NoahYdr> In Ubuntu?
[16:04] <NoahYdr> The same machine as the openssh server?
[16:04] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: from the client side I guess your windows system
[16:05] <NoahYdr> Yes, then 'ping -t IP'?
[16:05] <NoahYdr> No, then I can't ping. 'Timeout'
[16:05] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: I'm not sure what the added -t does
[16:05] <hggdh> prolly traceroute -T would be better
[16:05] <NoahYdr> -t means IP to a computer.
[16:05] <SchrodingersScat> no, -t is time to live
[16:06] <NoahYdr> How should I fix this?
[16:06] <SchrodingersScat> "-t ttl" - man ping
[16:06] <NoahYdr> How should I fix this?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: are you connecting back to your home PC from outside your LAN?
[16:07] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: I'm not sure anything is broken.  does it ping ok?
[16:08] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, The compuer I am connecting from is another PC in the same network.
[16:08] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: good point maybe NoahYdr is attempting from wan
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: ok so both have a similar address, except the last number in the IP
[16:08] <NoahYdr> sacarlson, The ping is failed.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: apparently not :(
[16:08] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, Huh?
[16:08] <NoahYdr> Ok
[16:08] <NoahYdr> It is the correct IP
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: eg.  your PC is 192.168.0.2 and the server is 192.168.0.3
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: both have the same numbers in the first 3 places in the IP, but the last one is different
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: is taht what you have?
[16:09] <NoahYdr> I'm using VMWare on a Windows Machine, with Ubuntu Server. Im using the Ubuntu Server ip in ifconfig
[16:09] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, The IP is: 192.168.114.130
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: but do the IPs follow the pattern I gave?
[16:09] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, The IP is: 192.168.114.130
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: ok and what is the IP of the system you are sat on?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: the system you want to connect from, the windows system?
[16:11] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, It is: 192.168.1.74
[16:11] <NoahYdr> This is wireless, the host is wired.
[16:12] <NoahYdr> Here's the Ubuntu IP https://playdalife.tinytake.com/sf/MTUzXzExNzk
[16:12] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: oh NoahYdr oh I think your vmware is behind a nat firewall
[16:12] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: I don't think they are on the same network
[16:12] <NoahYdr> sacarlson, Should I change it to Bridged mode?
[16:13] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: yes bridged mode you should be able to ping and ssh between them
[16:13] <NoahYdr> Ok
[16:14] <NoahYdr> Should I select the checkbox 'Replicate physical network connection state'?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: then its a different subnet
[16:14] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, Should I select it?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: set the VM to use a bridged connection and it will get an IP from your router and work without issue
[16:15] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: I'm not sure what that would mean
[16:15] <NoahYdr> Should I select the checkbox 'Replicate physical network connection state' In VMWare?
[16:15] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: it won't blow up try both states
[16:15] <NoahYdr> ok
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: its not working because the virtual system is in its own network and you havent bridged between.
[16:19] <NoahYdr> Its working now!
[16:19] <NoahYdr> Yay
[16:20] <Giwrgaras> what is the best music player for ubuntu?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Giwrgaras: none and all
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Giwrgaras: there is no single best music player in any OS
[16:20] <NoahYdr> But I can't sign in using SSH!
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Giwrgaras: if there was, the others would die off, as nobody would use anything else
[16:21] <Giwrgaras> i have clementine but im not satisfied with it. any alternatives? something that plays all files at least and has good integration with the taskbar?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: you need to get VMWare to let the traffic through to the guest. Do you have a specific need to use VMWare?
[16:21] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, Yes I have a reason.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> !player | Giwrgaras
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: gah
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: virtualbox is easier
[16:21] <NoahYdr> I wanna use VMWare
[16:21] <Giwrgaras> what do you use?
[16:21] <NoahYdr> But I can't sign in using SSH!
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: I'd ask in the vmware channel to see the config needed for the traffic to be brought in to the virtual environment
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Giwrgaras: vlc usually
[16:22] <NoahYdr> I can't sign in using SSH
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> nodedfree: you wont be able to sign in to anything til you get the network config seup
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: you wont be able to sign in to anything til you get the network config seup
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: and repeatingthe same thing does less than nothing
[16:23] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, How do I get the network config setup
[16:23] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: so still no ping betteen them?  you will have to take a look at the ifconfig again as it won't be the same ip address now
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: ask in #vmware and they can advise
[16:23] <NoahYdr> I can connect, but I can't login
[16:23] <NoahYdr> To ubuntu
[16:23] <NoahYdr> I can connect, but I can't login to Ubuntu
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: use your ubuntu password to authenticate
[16:24] <NoahYdr> I did it. I used root
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: openssh is configured to block root logins by default, because it is wise to do so
[16:25] <NoahYdr> What account should I use then, ActionParsnip?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: the one you setup when you first installed
[16:26] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, I didn't setup one.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: you did, you make a user when you install
[16:26] <NoahYdr> How do I see all my accounts?
[16:26] <mjayk-lap> How do I check in ubuntu if my 2nd graphics card is active
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: what is the output of:   grep 1000 /etc/passwd
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: on the Ubuntu system
[16:26] <NoahYdr> one sec
[16:27] <NoahYdr> Whats /etc?
[16:27] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: I"m not sure when you installed the sytem didn't it ask for username and passwords?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: its a folder
[16:27] <NoahYdr> sacarlson, Not In VMWare.
[16:28] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: how is it setup a preinstalled hardisk?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: in vmware its exactly the same
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: you run through the install as normal and setup a user
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: the only difference is that the hardware is virtual instead of physical
[16:30] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: I guess it's one of the default passwords like user: root pass: vmware  http://www.kendrickcoleman.com/index.php/Tech-Blog/list-of-vmware-default-usernames-and-passwords.html
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> NoahYdr: wait, did you download a pre-made VMWare image and boot it?
[16:31] <Giora> Is there anyway to restore menu bar in ubuntu 14.04?
[16:32] <sacarlson> Giora: more like it was in window xp you mean ?  maybe with mate
[16:32] <Giora> Yeah
[16:32] <Giora> I removed few packages and it partially worked for some apps but not all
[16:33] <sacarlson> is the mate package still available in ubuntu? if so what's it's full package name?
[16:33] <ankk> hi.
[16:33] <ankk> we've a network problem on ubuntu. http://pasteboard.co/ZdtDKao.png
[16:34] <ankk> there are network informations.. we can not connect any of server over internet
[16:34] <NoahYdr> ActionParsnip, I downloaded http://ubuntu.com/download/server
[16:34] <ankk> but we can communicate between computers in local network
[16:35] <sacarlson> Giora: looks more involved that I would expect http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/replace_unity_by_mate
[16:35] <Giora> Isn't there any way to get it done without switching my desktop?
[16:35] <NoahYdr> Can someone help me?
[16:36] <Giora> I'd prefer to keep using Unity with just menus back to normal
[16:36] <sacarlson> Giora: not that I know of.  you can also install the ubuntu dirivitive mint that has mate as it's default
[16:36] <NoahYdr> Please?
[16:37] <Giora> Guess I'll have to keep doing more research on this on my own
[16:37] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: did you try the default passwords?
[16:37] <Giora> Thanks though
[16:37] <EriC^^> ait
[16:37] <EriC^^> wait
[16:38] <EriC^^> Giora: there s
[16:38] <Giora> How?
[16:38] <EriC^^> a package in the software center, start menu or something
[16:38] <EriC^^> hold no
[16:38] <EriC^^> *on
[16:39] <EriC^^> Giora: software center > accessories > classicmenu indicator
[16:39] <EriC^^> never tried it though
[16:39] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: so you installed this ubuntu server into vmware?  if so you should have recorded the user name and passwords when you created it.  if not I guess you will have to reinstall it and record it this time
[16:39] <EriC^^> give it a shot
[16:39] <Giora> Will do
[16:39] <squinty> Giora: maybe also look at   gnome-session-flashback   which can be installed along side of unity (selectable at logon)
[16:39] <Giora> Thanks
[16:39] <EriC^^> no problem
[16:39] <NoahYdr> sacarlson, I remember the login details but it doesn't works.
[16:40] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: then you must of forgot you had the caps lock on or something
[16:40] <NoahYdr> Its working now!
[16:40] <NoahYdr> Bye
[16:40] <mjayk-lap> Jeannie: yea thats right but when i run an application with optirun and then run lspci | grep vga i still only see the intel card
[16:40] <NoahYdr> Or no...
[16:40] <NoahYdr> How do I port forward this SSH?
[16:41] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: port forward from your router from wan?   login to your router and look for nat section port forwarding
[16:41] <NoahYdr> Yeah. but what port, and what should it be translated to?
[16:42] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: the default I think for ssh is port 22
[16:42] <sacarlson> NoahYdr: it can be changes
[16:42] <sacarlson> changed
[16:42] <NoahYdr> Cya!
[16:43] <think> :) #itcanbechanges2014
[16:43] <TenLeftFingers> I used to have dual monitors and now an application opens in the non-existant second monitor (14.04). Anyone know how I can drag my app back? The typical unity keyboard shortcuts don't work cross-screen.
[16:43] <sacarlson> think: that's my song man
[16:44] <sacarlson> I just drag my windows accross from one screen to the other
[16:44] <think> you made my drop my phone hahaha....
[16:45] <mjayk-lap> Is there anyway to check that my discrete graphics card is being activated ?
[16:45] <TenLeftFingers> I can't drag because my mouse can't go to the second screen (because there is none).
[16:45] <sacarlson> mjayk-lap: you should be able to see if the system see's your graphic card with sudo lspci
[16:45] <EriC^^> TenLeftFingers: try settings > display
[16:46] <sacarlson> maybe you don't need sudo
[16:46] <EriC^^> click apply or something
[16:46] <TenLeftFingers> EriC^^: I've poked that app to within an inch of it's life already, but thank you
[16:47] <TenLeftFingers> And if anyone knows what I should report this bug against I'll do that (X?)
[16:50] <Giora> EriC^^: It worked but its not what I wanted.
[16:50] <Giora> I'm trying to get rid of global menu bar entirely in ubuntu 14.04
[16:50] <EriC^^> Giora: you can remove it in the settings
[16:51] <Giora> You can't
[16:51] <Giora> I don't want LIM
[16:51] <Giora> I want it gone entirely
[16:51] <EriC^^> Giora: settings > appearance > behavior > menu
[16:51] <shep__> hi
[16:51] <EriC^^> Giora: what's LIM?
[16:52] <Giora> Locally integrated menu
[16:52] <EriC^^> you don't want menu's at all?
[16:52] <EriC^^> maybe dconf-editor can help with that
[16:52] <Giora> I want them as it was back when gnome2 was used for ubuntu
[16:52] <Giora> I tried that too
[16:53] <EriC^^> nope
[16:53] <EriC^^> yeah
[16:53] <sacarlson> Giora: sounds like you want mint 17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWJOMptw_2o
[16:53] <EriC^^> sacarlson: ? you work for mint or something?
[16:55] <sacarlson> EriC no I just look at what Giora is looking for and that the closest thing I can find but yes I do like mint
[16:55] <sacarlson> or the mate desktop
[16:56] <Giora> This is the closest I could get -> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/unity-trusty-global-menu-switch
[16:56] <Giora> But I just can't blacklist each app I use/install
[16:56] <EriC^^> sacarlson: well, at least you're not asking him to install OS's based on other kernels
[16:56] <EriC^^> ( don't know what else to tell you )
[16:58] <Giora> This isn't an option either for me -> http://www.howtogeek.com/187999/how-to-enable-local-menus-in-ubuntu-14.04/
[16:59] <rigor789> Hey guys, any ideas why is ubuntu lagging and unresponsive on a fresh install?
[16:59] <rigor789> Specs: i5 3570k 8gigs of ram, ssd drive, gtx550ti
[17:00] <Giora> It should be blazing fast with your specs
[17:00] <rigor789> Giora, I know right, but for some reason it isn't
[17:00] <rigor789> And as I said it is a fresh install also 14.04
[17:02] <rigor789> Can it be something with the video drivers?
[17:02] <EriC^^> Giora: there might be a solution here http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-the-global-application-menu
[17:03] <EriC^^> Giora: it seems you want gsettings set com.canonical.Unity integrated-menus false
[17:03] <Giora> Thats what I just tried
[17:03] <EriC^^> Giora: and sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu
[17:03] <Giora> Did that already
[17:03] <EriC^^> ( but that will break the hud )
[17:04] <Giora> I don't mind
[17:04] <EriC^^> both should give you no menus, no?
[17:04] <Giora> It should restore em actually
[17:04] <Giora> But it doesn't work for everything
[17:04] <Giora> For terminal I do see it
[17:04] <Giora> But not for nautilus
[17:05] <EriC^^> Giora: maybe sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt
[17:05] <Giora> Tried that too
[17:05] <Giora> Still doesn't affect nautilus
[17:07] <EriC^^> Giora: try to set the setting to global menu, who knows
[17:07] <Giora> No matter what I've tried global menu would refuse to die
[17:08] <EriC^^> Giora: you still get a global menu if you set it ?
[17:08] <Giora> Yes
[17:08] <Giora> Actually
[17:08] <Giora> Since I removed the packages you've mentioned I just don't see any menus at all
[17:08] <somesh> how to stop the mouse flickering permanently??
[17:09] <Giora> At least for any apps that aren't affected entirely
[17:16] <blippe> does anybody have any experience with mediagoblin?
[17:17] <aryklein> does anybody has configured FC with multipath?
[17:18] <aryklein> I need help with this
[17:20] <blippe> aryklein: Fedora Core?
[17:21] <aryklein> blippe: nop Ubuntu with EMC VNX5300 storage
[17:21] <aryklein> blippe: FC= Fibre Channel
[17:23] <Giora> I can't get rid of global menu :(
[17:28] <zzxc> Sooo I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to this. But if I'm getting the "/dev/xvdh1 will be checked for errors at next reboot" message. I can cirsumvent the fsck on the drive by unmounting the drive and running fsck on it correct?
[17:29] <jemendja> hi
[17:30] <zzxc> hey jemendja
[17:32] <sacarlson> I'm not sure running fsck will stop it from running the test at boot by you can always break out of the test at boot I think with esc key
[17:33] <theseb> anyone notice screen lock no workie in 14.04?
[17:34] <sacarlson> Giora: gave you what I thought you would like and I found what looks like an easier solution to install mate on ubuntu http://blog.lifebloodnetworks.com/?p=1253
[17:34] <zzxc> sacarlson: Its on an EC2 Server so I can't override it. Plus it needs to happen anyways.
[17:34] <sacarlson> zzxc: oh ic
[17:34] <Giora> I'm not going to install mate
[17:35] <sacarlson> zzxc: what do they force boot those every x days or what ?
[17:36] <sacarlson> Giora: it's now down to 6 lines of apt-get's in the last link.  I can make you guys a single deb file to do it in a single line
[17:36] <zzxc> sacarlson: Honestly I don't remeber. I get an email every so often. I'm just trying to avoid downtime with the server. And I have 8tb attached to it so fsck can take a while.
[17:36] <Giora> I still don't want to use Mate
[17:37] <sacarlson> Giora: oh it's not the difficulty to install it's just you don't like the old way like ubuntu 10
[17:37] <Giora> I don't have any problem installing it
[17:37] <Giora> I simply want to keep using Unity thats all
[17:38] <sacarlson> Giora: well it's no longer unity after what you have already done to it ha ha
[17:38] <Giora> Eh
[17:38] <Giora> Be it hacked unity
[17:39] <sacarlson> Giora: linux is just one big hack
[17:39] <Giora> Yeah I've noticed
[17:41] <zzxc> sacarlson, Giora: I've seen people use unity and pantheon. But everything is pretty swappable.
[17:42] <zzxc> It takes a little bit of work but everything is pretty swappable*
[17:42] <Giora> I'll just keep removing packages until either it works or ubuntu breaks
[17:44] <zzxc> Giora: What are you trying to get it to do?
[17:44] <Giora> Kill global menu for good
[17:46] <chris_99> hey, i'm wondering if i can apt-get a kernel with debug symbols
[17:46] <chris_99> or should i just compile my onw
[17:46] <chris_99> *own
[17:47] <sacarlson> chris_99: I think there is a good chance you will find one
[17:48] <chris_99> i can't seem to see one in the std. repos
[17:49] <sacarlson> chris_99: I think you are just looking for the headers that match the linux kernal
[17:49] <chris_99> no
[17:49] <chris_99> i'm not
[17:50] <chris_99> i'm looking for a kernel with debugging symbols
[17:51] <sacarlson> chris_99: oh your correct I don't see the dev that have debugging enabled
[17:52] <chris_99> i may have found a repository with them in one tick
[17:52] <sacarlson> chris_99: oh ok
[17:53] <rigor789> Any ideas why is Ubuntu unresponsive on a high end pc? (14.04) the whole system feels laggy and unresponsive.. :(
[17:55] <sacarlson> rigor789: I guess they expect you to have like solid state drives and 8 cores and.....
[17:55] <rigor789> sacarlson, I have a solid state drive
[17:55] <rigor789> In fact 2 of them
[17:55] <rigor789> i5 3570k 8gigs of ram
[17:55] <rigor789> should not have any issues
[17:55] <rigor789> gtx 550 ti
[17:55] <sacarlson> rigor789: opps and a super nividia gpu
[17:56] <rigor789> sacarlson, 550ti should be fine
[17:56] <sacarlson> with the propriatary drivers running
[17:57] <sacarlson> turn off the eye candy and it might run faster
[18:00] <EriC^^> rigor789: which driver are you using?
[18:00] <EriC^^> rigor789: it's probably a graphics driver issue
[18:00] <rigor789> EriC^^, It used the default, I can't recall, then I selected the nvidia latest tested
[18:00] <rigor789> but both lag
[18:01] <EriC^^> rigor789: type lspci | grep VGA
[18:01] <EriC^^> then type sudo lshw -C video | grep driver
[18:01] <EriC^^> and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[18:01] <rigor789> I'm not booted into linux right now, so I can't do it. Let me reboot
[18:01] <sacarlson> what is that eye candy stuf called that runs on the desktop with all the flames and transparant windows and stuf called or package used?
[18:02] <Giora> compiz?
[18:02] <sacarlson> yup
[18:02] <sacarlson> rigor789: try apt-get remove compiz and see how it performs
[18:02] <EriC^^> sacarlson: please
[18:02] <EriC^^> STOP
[18:03] <EriC^^> /part #ubuntu
[18:03] <EriC^^> PLEASE
[18:03] <rigor789> Lol'd
[18:03] <sacarlson> what you can't turn off compiz that's against the rules  like lububutu did?
[18:03] <rigor789> Crap, I'm downloading a vagrant box... it will take 19 more minutes
[18:03] <rigor789> I'll reboot then
[18:04] <EriC^^> sacarlson: turn off compiz ? it's the windows manager
[18:04] <rigor789> Btw, I tried turning off all the compiz effects, still lagged
[18:05] <diphtherial> hey, apologies for this generic linux question, but i can't remember the name of that file you can somewhere in your home directory that allows you to give a short name + ssh key to a host
[18:05] <sacarlson> EriC^^: well it's not running on my machine and it's just fine
[18:05] <diphtherial> anyone happen to remember?
[18:05] <EriC^^> sacarlson: if he removes compiz he will break his DE
[18:05] <sacarlson> EriC^^: aparantly not as he has already tried that and didn't say anything about breaking it
[18:05] <EriC^^> rigor789: maybe something is using the CPU ? type top in a terminal
[18:06] <EriC^^> sacarlson: he said he turned off the effects, not removed it
[18:06] <rigor789> I might change to no gui though.. I feel more confortable without it (mostly used linux for servers)
[18:06] <rigor789> EriC^^, should not be
[18:06] <sacarlson> EriC^^: disable remove same thing
[18:06] <EriC^^> sacarlson: man are you nuts?
[18:06] <Pici> diphtherial: ssh_config, see man 5 ssh_config, it lives in ~/.ssh/config for per-user things.
[18:06] <diphtherial> Pici: ah, thank you!
[18:06] <EriC^^> sacarlson: compiz is what draws the windows
[18:09] <sacarlson> EriC^^: aparantly they have an alternate method to draw boxes as I doubled checked and compiz is not installed on my system,  but to make you happy I will install it to try it
[18:09] <EriC^^> sacarlson: it's because you're using a different window manager
[18:09] <sacarlson> you people scared to try anything
[18:10] <EriC^^> sacarlson: buddy that's not the issue
[18:10] <EriC^^> sacarlson: you're telling people to remove their window manager and thus break their DE
[18:11] <sacarlson> EriC^^: it should warn you if you attempt to remove it that these package will also be effected.  just take a look at what would be lost
[18:12] <EriC^^> sacarlson: that doesn't make sense
[18:13] <sacarlson> EriC^^:  you never attempted to see the effects without removing a package will do?  there is the botton to continue before it starts
[18:13] <EriC^^> sacarlson: i know, that's not the point
[18:14] <EriC^^> sacarlson: so if i tell you to break your system with a command, but there's a do you want to continue it's ok?
[18:15] <mahjouri> hey
[18:15] <sacarlson> EriC^^: that's what some people do to learn they try
[18:15] <sacarlson> and tell others the results
[18:15] <EriC^^> sacarlson: yes, you try but sanely
[18:16] <EriC^^> yes but stuff that makes sense
[18:16] <EriC^^> you dont try jumping off a roof do you?
[18:17] <EriC^^> at least put some glued bird feathers on your back
[18:17] <sacarlson> funy you should say that yes I built my first hangglider because I had to know what it was like to fly
[18:18] <sacarlson> sorry off topic
[18:22] <EriC^^> !cookie | sacarlson
[18:23] <sacarlson> EriC^^: but without your help I had to prove you correct with this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2082639  you can't run unity without compiz but it will fall back to llvmpipe and run in 2d mode
[18:24] <sacarlson> so I wonder if rigor789 is running in the fallback mode of llvmpipe that must slow things way down
[18:24] <EriC^^> sacarlson: please
[18:24] <EriC^^> sacarlson: you don't know how to read do you?
[18:24] <sacarlson> EriC^^: I'm even worse at writing
[18:25] <markosejic> good evening
[18:25] <markosejic> just testing ubuntu mate
[18:26] <EriC^^> sacarlson: you're missing the point
[18:26] <sacarlson> markosejic:  so you have mate installed?   just kiding you must be astrailian
[18:26] <Giora> I give up, its impossible to get rid of global menu
[18:26] <markosejic> just testing ubuntu 14.10 mate rc img
[18:26] <markosejic> tested ubuntu 14.10 beta img todaz too
[18:26] <markosejic> today
[18:29] <babarjoya> helo
[18:29] <trism> Giora: in 14.04 you can move the menu to the window's title bar: System Settings/Appearance/Behavior/Show menus for a window/In the window's title bar
[18:30] <markosejic> it worked ok in live mode on mz laptop with 1 gb of ram
[18:30] <babarjoya> channel names
[18:30] <DJones> !alis | babarjoya
[18:30] <markosejic> i am European
[18:31] <DJones> babarjoya: You've joined #ubuntu which is the support channel for Ubuntu, so if you have a support issue with Ubuntu, you're welcome to ask it here
[18:33] <babarjoya> helo
[18:33] <babarjoya> anyonw here
[18:34] <FatTori> hello babarjoya
[18:34] <markosejic> hi
[18:39] <n1ghthawk> hi, I keep reading contrary things about swappiness value, I have 4gb of ram and turned it down to 10, should i just leave it or put it back to its default setting?
[18:41] <n1ghthawk> is it bad to change swappiness value from its default setting if you have 4gb of ram?
[18:41] <Chetic> I can connect using IP but not hostname. How do I figure out what's wrong?
[18:43] <qwerkus> hello. CUPS wont accept my login. How do I reset it ?
[18:45] <n1ghthawk> Anyone know about swappiness?
[18:46] <rigor789_> Hey got the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/8575335/
[18:46] <babarjoya> how to hack wifi
[18:47] <n1ghthawk> ^ha
[18:47] <markosejic> we dont discuss this here
[18:47] <n1ghthawk> can someone please help me on what I should set my swappiness at?
[18:47] <pzkpfw> swag_101
[18:48] <markosejic> swap must be 2x more than ram
[18:48] <ankk> what is "interrupt" information of network interfaces in "ifconfig" output?
[18:48] <ObrienDave> markosejic, wrong, = to or slightly larger than RAM
[18:48] <ankk> for example, for my wlan0, it shows "interrupt: 17 "
[18:48] <n1ghthawk> I have 4gb of ram
[18:49] <markosejic> i have 1gb of ram and have set swap 4gb
[18:49] <ObrienDave> n1ghthawk, then 5 GB is enough swap
[18:49] <sacarlson> ObrienDave: I would agree to that swap at least as big or a bit biger than ram so as to support standby mode or the other mode without shutdown
[18:49] <n1ghthawk> i mean the swappiness value, the one that is 60 by default
[18:50] <rigor789_> Damn, I can't remember who told me to run the commands and paste them....
[18:50] <ObrienDave> markosejic, you are wasting 3GB of drive space
[18:50] <n1ghthawk> i don't mean the swap partition
[18:51] <Makeitbeautiful> Hi,do you know why are some text missing above cairo dock's icons?
[18:52] <n1ghthawk> its just i keep reading that setting it at 10 is good, then another fourm entry will say just leave it
[18:52] <n1ghthawk> <..<
[18:53] <bubbasaures> n1ghthawk, Are you having a swap issue?
[18:53] <stoogenmeyer> hi could anyone spare some help with comparing strings in a bash script? the following does not work http://pastebin.com/1YB4JEE1
[18:53] <ObrienDave> n1ghthawk, afaik, swappiness sets how often things are updated in swap WHEN NEEDED
[18:54] <Sbur> Looking for a java help
[18:54] <ObrienDave> n1ghthawk, i don't use swap at all. no /swap
[18:54] <loa> #noswap
[18:54] <n1ghthawk> so is it okay to just leave it at 10 then?
[18:55] <Sbur> I've java on my ubuntu distro, but line quality test tells me to upgrade client java
[18:55] <sacarlson> I never even heard of such a thing as swappiness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness
[18:55] <ObrienDave> well, honestly, i don't really know what effect that will have
[18:55] <n1ghthawk> well its very much a thing
[18:55] <Sbur> java version "1.7.0_65"
[18:55] <Sbur> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.5.2) (7u65-2.5.2-3~14.04)
[18:55] <Sbur> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.65-b04, mixed mode)
[18:56] <teward> stoogenmeyer: just going to put this out there, have you tried asking in #bash or running your script through http://www.shellcheck.net/ ?
[18:56] <teward> (which is listed in the #bash topic for checking the script)
[18:57] <Sbur> Anyone willing to explain and help me with a java problem?
[18:57] <sacarlson> stoogenmeyer: your missing a " around production
[18:58] <n1ghthawk> p
[18:58] <bubbasaures> Sbur, Ste the actual issue for help.
[18:58] <bubbasaures> State*
[18:58] <rigor789_> Hmm, it feels more responsive atm. weird
[18:58] <Sbur> java version "1.7.0_65"
[18:58] <Sbur> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.5.2) (7u65-2.5.2-3~14.04)
[18:58] <Sbur> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.65-b04, mixed mode)
[18:58] <teward> Sbur: your issue is that a quality testing site says to update your java version
[18:58] <rigor789_> The alt-tabbing is still bad lol
[18:58] <teward> Sbur: right?
[18:58] <teward> Sbur: also don't paste multiline, see !paste about that
[18:58] <Sbur> It refuses to do certain checks
[18:59] <Sbur> teward: It refuses to do line quality check - I think ping or something else
[18:59] <bubbasaures> Sbur, You can'[t check java in linux from their site
[18:59] <stoogenmeyer> sacarlson: hey, thanks for the response. the missing " was a fluke in copying to pastebin. even with it, it does not work
[19:00] <Sbur> bubbasaures: Can I paste one other thing to explain?
[19:00] <Sbur> bubbasaures: The Ookla Line Quality Test requires Java. Please update your client.
[19:00] <sacarlson> stoogenmeyer: I'm not sure but I think you also want "" around "$env"   but I could be wrong about that
[19:01] <bubbasaures> Sbur, The updates needed will come in your update/upgrades. Use another speed tester, geez.
[19:01] <kostkon> Sbur, have you installed the browser plugin
[19:02] <bubbasaures> !java | Sbur
[19:03] <Rhapsody> I want to use Ubuntu, but the fact that there's no Logitech Gaming Software version compatible with Linux is the main reason why I'm still on Windows. Is there any way I can get my Logitech G35 headset to have virtual 7.1 surround sound on Linux
[19:03] <Rhapsody> ?
[19:03] <Rhapsody> The Logitech Gaming Software generally achieves this.
[19:04] <stoogenmeyer> sacarlson: did that too, it'll work with one condition, but I'm trying to use two
[19:07] <flametai1> So quick question guys, trying to install the latest Ubuntu 14 LTS on a Dell Latitude D531 using a USB key, the key works fine on my PC so I tried it on the laptop, it will boot into the menu with install, try without install etc. options. But I get the same error as the OP from this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226042 Any ideas as to the problem?
[19:08] <reisio> flametai1: try the minimalcd image
[19:10] <flametai1> reisio: Thanks will try
[19:10] <Rhapsody> I want to install Ubuntu on my flash drive, but I don't want to overwrite the current bootloader (since I'm currently using Windows 10 and overwriting that bootloader would likely lock me out of the OS, if I understand how that works).
[19:11] <Rhapsody> Er, rather, I want to install Ubuntu VIA my flash drive
[19:11] <Rhapsody> but you get the point
[19:11] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: how do you plan to boot ubuntu?
[19:11] <Rhapsody> I plan to make a partition on my SSD to install it to, while installing it via the USB device
[19:11] <OerHeks> there is no manual for windows 10 chaining bootloader yet
[19:12] <Rhapsody> OerHeks, the bootloader seems identical to the Windows 8 one, I'm not even sure if it's changed... I wonder if I can look up the bootloader version?
[19:13] <Rhapsody> We can simplify this with this question that I've run into while researching;
[19:13] <Rhapsody> I read that GRUB launches at the start of the computer, but if you select to boot into Windows it goes to the Windows screen to select the OS instead.
[19:13] <Rhapsody> Is this true?
[19:14] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: if you're using efi, it will load the bootmgfw.efi file
[19:14] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, A full install to the USB?
[19:14] <EriC^^> which is basically as if grub wasn't installed, i guess
[19:14] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: As I understand to properly install Linux, you need to install it to a USB device/SD card and then boot into it, and install it via the installer that's provided.
[19:15] <EriC^^> ( that's for win8 efi )
[19:15] <Rhapsody> Or am I mixing it up with WUBI?
[19:15] <Rhapsody> EriC^^:This PC came with Windows 7 originally
[19:15] <Rhapsody> (I'm actually dual booting Windows 7 and 10 already, but that's besides the point)
[19:17] <jmacdonald> hi
[19:17] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, Install can mean loading the iso for install or a regular full install to a usb. W10 has the same BCD boot since vista, I have W8, W10 and two linux on my HD all booted with grub, however I'm msdos.
[19:17] <jmacdonald> i just installed squid3 via apt-get and it didn't create an init file... weird.!
[19:17] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: So I can just install without any concern for not being able to boot into Win10?
[19:18] <Rhapsody> Also, how hard is GRUB to remove if I decide to not use Ubuntu? Is it just as simple as repairing the bootloader via a Windows install disc?
[19:18] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: yes, i simple /fixmbr should suffice
[19:18] <EriC^^> *a
[19:19] <Rhapsody> Fair enough, I'll probably be back with questions later
[19:19] <genii> Rhapsody: For the issue with your G35 headset, try setting the value default-sample-channels in your /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to 8
[19:20] <Rhapsody> genii: If you could hold onto that or send it to the email I'll PM you, that'd be great
[19:20] <Rhapsody> If that doesn't work, I've been looking around and it seems like Pulseaudio manager can do it, too.
[19:20] <Rhapsody> PulseAudio Equalizer
[19:20] <Rhapsody> my bad
[19:21] <Rhapsody> Uh, final question, since it's important to me; how do Intel CPUs fare with OpenGL?
[19:21] <Rhapsody> Like, the Intel HD 3000 graphics
[19:21] <jmacdonald> GPUS?
[19:22] <Rhapsody> No, I think the term is APU
[19:22] <Rhapsody> I have an Intel 2520M and I use it for some games on Windows. These games use the DirectX library on Windows, but OpenGL on Linux.
[19:22] <Rhapsody> How will the CPU perform with that?
[19:24] <kakashiA1> hey guys, I installed the powerline via cd ~/.vim/bundle && git clone
[19:24] <kakashiA1> https://github.com/Lokaltog/powerline
[19:24] <kakashiA1> this is my .vimrc: https://paste.xinu.at/Hn7bA/
[19:24] <kakashiA1> this is what I get if I start gvim: https://paste.xinu.at/oGOvr/
[19:24] <kakashiA1> I used the same config on an archlinux mashine and it works there
[19:25] <bekks> And whats "not working" in your paste?
[19:25] <bekks> No error to be seen.
[19:25] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, I think we all support your use of ubuntu, but you have to just set it up and try it, asking broad questions about what it may be like is not the channels use past a certain point.;)
[19:25] <kakashiA1> bekks: thats right, but do you know how the poweline have to look like?
[19:26] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: I'm aware, I'm just asking for a generalized opinion of it's performance since I couldn't find anything and I'm sure other people had the same CPU, but I'll try it myself, of course.
[19:26] <bekks> kakashiA1: No. I never heard of that - so please explain what you expect to happen.
[19:27] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, A generalized opinion means nothing at best it is subjective at worst worthless individually
[19:27] <kakashiA1> to get a powerline that looks like this:
[19:27] <kakashiA1> https://camo.githubusercontent.com/665c40511fcf50cc48e210d26840e921d067c269/68747470733a2f2f7261772e6769746875622e636f6d2f4c6f6b616c746f672f706f7765726c696e652f646576656c6f702f646f63732f736f757263652f5f7374617469632f696d672f706c2d6d6f64652d6e6f726d616c2e706e67
[19:27] <kakashiA1> https://github.com/Lokaltog/powerline <--scroll down
[19:28] <robby_> robby
[19:28] <robby_> vacanze
[19:30] <kakashiA1> bekks: any idea?
[19:30] <andras> How can I manually adjust PWM fan speed?
[19:30] <andras> Via the terminal?
[19:30] <bekks> kakashiA1: Did you check the requirements of "powerline"?
[19:31] <EriC^^> andras: fancontrol , maybe
[19:31] <EriC^^> !info fancontrol
[19:31] <kakashiA1> bekks: it just need python
[19:32] <andras> EriC^^ that will do it automatically
[19:32] <bekks> kakashiA1: Did you check the requirements of "powerline"?
[19:32] <kakashiA1> bekks: yes
[19:33] <bekks> kakashiA1: So all requirements, like specific versions, are fulfilled?
[19:33] <robby_> vacanze
[19:33] <kakashiA1> bekks: yes, because it only needs python2 or 3
[19:34] <bekks> kakashiA1: So a python 2.0 would be ok? ;) I doubt that.
[19:35] <kakashiA1> kakashi@UbuntuLTS:~$ python -V
[19:35] <kakashiA1> Python 2.7.6
[19:36] <kakashiA1> any other ideas?
[19:36] <kakashiA1> mr bekks :)
[19:42] <cat_pants> Hi folks. How do I tell if my driver for my wireless card is installed? I can see my card via lspci.
[19:48] <kakashiAL> bekks: any ideas?
[19:48] <jkbbwr> :'(
[19:48] <jkbbwr> nvidia sucks
[19:49] <bekks> jkbbwr: Works perfectly here.
[19:49] <pc_magas> jkbbwr, nope I do not think so
[19:49] <bekks> kakashiAL: Actually no, I'm sorry.
[19:49] <jkbbwr> i cant get it to woek like 9th try
[19:49] <pc_magas> Did you installed the propriatery drivers?
[19:49] <jkbbwr> tried
[19:49] <bekks> Thats most likely going to fail.
[19:50] <kaligne> Hello am I on the right channel to asks questions on partitioning, MBR, GPT, syslinux and such?
[19:50] <pc_magas> I also managed to install grub2 on a usb stick and I want to boot the ubuntu.14.04 iso from it
[19:50] <bekks> kaligne: In case you are using Ubuntu - yes.
[19:51] <pc_magas> But when I sellect to boot the iso I want to show the original menu and its selections
[19:51] <pc_magas> in few words how can I configure the grub2 to boot another bootloader from the Ubuntu Iso?
[19:51] <bubbasaures> pc_magas, There are a handful of usb loaders, some boot the gui you see on a disk boot.
[19:52] <pc_magas> bubbasaures,
[19:52] <pc_magas> I want to make grub2 to do that
[19:52] <pc_magas> TRhat I installed on USB
[19:52] <kakashiAL> bekks: thanks anyway
[19:52] <EriC^^> pc_magas: why don't you just install ubuntu onto the usb as a normal installation?
[19:53] <andras> When you do a stress test using the stress command, what do the numbers mean? Intensity? Like what does stress --cpu 10 mean
[19:53] <EriC^^> ( if you want a standalone installation on a usb )
[19:54] <bubbasaures> pc_magas, Lots on the web on this. Here is a wiki on doing it with multiple iso possibilities. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-via-grub2-using-linux/
[19:54] <pc_magas> EriC^^, cause I want to be able to boot multiple isos from different isos
[19:58] <kaligne> Ok thank you Ill explain briefly : my current goal is to make a multi-boot  usb stick using syslinux. TO begin with, I read on some documentations that sslinux suports fileformats such as Fat, ext{2,3,4}. It also is compatible with MBR and GPT.
[19:58] <kaligne> I used the tool gdisk to create a `Linux file system` partition (/dev/sdb1). Then I formatted it with `mkfs.ext2` and when I try initializing syslinux with `syslinux -m /dev/sdb1` I get this error "syslinux: invalid media signature (not a FAT filesystem?)"
[19:58] <kaligne> I thought syslinux was supposed to suport ext2 files, isn't it the case?
[19:59] <bekks> kaligne: "ext2" is not "FAT".
[20:00] <kaligne> bekks I get it, but the documentation says it supports ext2 as well?
[20:00] <bekks> kaligne: I believe in the error message telling you it doesnt.
[20:00] <reisio> that might mean it will _boot_ a system on ext
[20:00] <reisio> #syslinux
[20:04] <maxis11> i have a question. I'm using liquorix(based on zen-kernel) kernel on Ubuntu 14.10 and don't know on which file system(ext4,brtfs,xfs) os will work faster. Can anyone help me with choice? (sorry for my bad English)
[20:05] <EriC^^> kaligne: why syslinux? why not grub2?
[20:05] <bekks> maxis11: After booting, the filesystem is on of the irrelevant factors for "performance" of a OS.
[20:05] <kaligne> bekks : ok Ill try Fat32 format
[20:06] <bekks> maxis11: The interesting part would be the filesystem where your data resides, not your OS.
[20:06] <cat_pants> Hi folks. How do I tell if my driver for my wireless card is installed? I can see my card via lspci.
[20:06] <kaligne> EriC^^ : because I read it is supposed to be easy to set up and to chainload. Does Grub2 do that too?
[20:06] <EriC^^> kaligne: yes very much so
[20:09] <miauriel> good day everyone! has anyone heard of a package named discover? Im building an OS and am supposed to run "apt-get install --yes ubuntu-standard casper lupin-casper
[20:09] <miauriel> apt-get install --yes discover laptop-detect os-prober apt-get install --yes linux-generic", but I recieve "unable to locate package discover". Anyone know what repository its in?
[20:09] <etzer> hello all
[20:10] <etzer> what's new on version 14?
[20:10] <bekks> etzer: Which version 14?
[20:10] <etzer> 14.04
[20:10] <mchelen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#New_features_in_14.04_LTS
[20:12] <etzer> any idea?
[20:15] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: heys
[20:15] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Decided to just reinstall Win 8.1 and Ubuntu all over in that order..
[20:16] <kakashiAL> anyone here who installed the VIM powerline?
[20:16] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: instead of trying to recover previous image to SSD
[20:19] <jkbbwr> Just installed ubuntu
[20:19] <jkbbwr> It can't detect my nvidia graphics card
[20:19] <bekks> How do you try?
[20:21] <demon-k2008> Есть Россияне?
[20:21] <fhoifwefiuhiu> hello
[20:21] <foureight84> i have a php script that uses libcurl to post data to my server. it has been working fine up until last night. i haven't updated the server or the script. so i keep gett error:14094410:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert handshake failure when posting
[20:22] <foureight84> i take the same script and run it on my centos server and i'm not getting this error message
[20:22] <pvl1> hey all, how can i disable automatic network config for start up
[20:22] <fhoifwefiuhiu> on debian i can use the dpkg-reconfigure command to generate and select my locales. i know how to generate the locales on ubuntu bot how can i choice one of it?
[20:22] <fhoifwefiuhiu> debian does it automaticaly
[20:23] <kaligne> according to the manual, fdisk does not recognize GPT partitions. So Iluse gdisk. However I can't find a way to flag a partition as boot with gdsk. Is there a need to that, and is it possible to flag with gdisk? GOogle returns 0 relevant results for "boot flag with gdisk"
[20:24] <EriC^^> kaligne: you can use gparted if you want
[20:25] <ldlework> Can anyone help me get the compose key working? I've followed just about a dozen tutorials
[20:25] <EriC^^> kaligne: if it's a gpt partition table, with bios (legacy) you need a bios-boot partition ( 1MB ) for it to work
[20:26] <ldlework> My compose key is set to right-control, my keyboard layout is English (US, with dead AltGr keys)
[20:26] <ldlework> I have no idea what else I can do...
[20:26] <ldlework> Shift-Control-U works to input unicode...
[20:27] <EriC^^> ldlework: you can bind other keys
[20:27] <EriC^^> ldlework: what do you mean by compose key?
[20:27] <ldlework> EriC^^: ... there is a feature in Ubuntu called 'Compose Key', are you familiar with it?
[20:28] <EriC^^> nope
[20:28] <ldlework> lol then why are you responding :)
[20:28] <ldlework> thanks anyway though
[20:28] <EriC^^> because you asked what you can do about a key not working
[20:28] <ldlework> EriC^^: my literal keyboard key is working fine
[20:28] <ldlework> the feature is not working at all
[20:30] <EriC^^> oh ok, i thought the key wasn't working
[20:32] <poker99> hello french here ?
[20:32] <kostkon> !fr
[20:32] <poker99> is probleme fs full sous rootfs installation vm
[20:42] <henkpoley> Is there any *browser* with VDPAU (h.264 accelleration) ? I don't mean the flash *plugin*, I mean a browser itself
[20:48] <Garrett2> Hello guys! I already posted this over at the Ubuntu-Gnome channel but there seems to be nobody there, so I hope it's not in bad taste to ask here as well: My notebook decided to show me nothing but a black screen today (from the moment when i press the power button, so i don't even see the bios-screen) but when i hook it up to an external monitor everything's fine, so there doesn't seem to be a problem with the OS (Ubuntu Gnome
[20:48] <Garrett2> 14.04) itself (i would think). I suspected something's wrong with the display driver, so i went ahaed and reinstalled xserver-xorg, but that didn't help... What else could i try (before acknowledging that my display is actually faulty)?
[20:49] <qual> hello
[20:50] <csed> Sup. Having some trouble installing Xubuntu on a RAID6 + LVM setup. Anyone have some experience with that?
[20:51] <qual> im having some trouble with the black screen of death, it comes up with a line the second i turn my PC on.. i could only get on here using a old PC i have... any clue what to do?
[20:52] <ObrienDave> qual, what line?
[20:52] <bubbasaures> qual, Little context is helpful, details yah know.
[20:52] <qual> well, idk it just comes up with a flashing line.. like _
[20:52] <ObrienDave> ROFL that's a cursor
[20:52] <bubbasaures> !nomodeset | qual
[20:53] <DoYouKnow> how do I scan for dvb-s2 channels?
[20:53] <csed> I think I'm just messing up the setup, to be honest. It's GPT and I'm not sure how I'm supposed to work out the BIOS partition for GRUB. Am I supposed to create a separate partition on the raid and use that as the BIOS boot? Or is there a way to go full-on LVM?
[20:53] <qual> thanks, ubottu.. ill check it out
[20:55] <qual> um, just read it, i have no clue about all of that, how do i get the BIOS thing up? like i said, i just get that black screen the second i turn the PC on?
[20:56] <csed> qual: Do you see any text before the cursor appears? Anything that says BIOS etc.
[20:56] <qual> No just this _
[20:57] <newbme> i need some help please if someone has the time to actually help me
[20:57] <ObrienDave> qual, what was installed previously?
[20:57] <Rhapsody> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from my flash drive onto an SSD, but Ubuntu can't see my SSD at all.
[20:57] <bekks> newbme: That would require a specific support question first :)
[20:57] <newbme> ok becks let me show you
[20:57] <Rhapsody> Notably, the entire device is formatted as an MBR device
[20:57] <csed> qual: Then it's not an Ubuntu issue. If your box isn't even getting to POST then something dun messed up at the hardware level.
[20:57] <qual> i had windows (cracked) then changed to linux 13.1( i think its called)
[20:57] <bekks> newbme: Please ask the whole channel, not just me :)
[20:58] <newbme>  was using a razor deathadder mouse and it broke, so i bought a new razor deathadder 2013 versions. I was using this configuration tool for the mouse originally (http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html) but the old version does not support my new mouse, so i downloaded the most recent version which does, and i am having troubles with it. I followed the directions precisely in the README file and i get this error when trying to run it...
[20:58] <bubbasaures> qual, nomodeset has nothing to do with the bios.
[20:58] <Rhapsody> It can see the SSD in the file manager, but when I try to mount it it says I don't have permission
[20:58] <newbme> zorin@zorin:~$ razerd
[20:58] <newbme> Razer device service daemon
[20:58] <newbme> librazer: No config file /etc/razer.conf present. Ignoring.
[20:58] <newbme> Failed to bind socket to /var/run/razerd/socket: Address already in use
[20:58] <qual> bubba, the website i was linked said it was
[20:58] <ObrienDave> qual, which windows? 7, 8, Vista?
[20:58] <qual> 8 i think, with 7 gui
[20:59] <csed> qual: No, it didn't. Like I said, if you're not getting to the BIOS (not seeing ANY text before the cursor appears) then it's a hardware issue.
[20:59] <newbme> qrazercfg
[20:59] <newbme> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20:59] <newbme>   File "/usr/local/bin/qrazercfg", line 20, in <module>
[20:59] <newbme>     from pyrazer import *
[20:59] <newbme>   File "/usr/local/bin/pyrazer.py", line 60
[20:59] <newbme>     except (ValueError), e:
[20:59] <unopaste> newbme you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:59] <csed> Thank you bot-man.
[20:59] <bubbasaures> qual, You only read partially, nomodeset is a live cd or install grub modification for a low graphic boot, E.G in situations such as yours.
[21:00] <qual> i followed instuctions on a website, and clicked the nomodset.. but nothing changed, still went on to blackscreen. its realy annoying me lol, i just wanna play my games :(
[21:00] <bubbasaures> qual, This a live boot?
[21:00] <bekks> qual: You dont "click" nomodeset - what exactly did you do?
[21:01] <bubbasaures> zactly
[21:01] <qual> i did f6 went down to nomodeset, a X came up, i clicked Esc, then rebooted PC
[21:01]  * ObrienDave saunters on down the road
[21:02] <bekks> qual: And now you have to do that again - thats not a persistent setting when using a live cd.
[21:02] <qual> i watched a video, it said i needed to install somthing? which i cant do due to it not coming on..?
[21:03] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: And how did it go?
[21:04] <qual> also a issue i had trying to get the f6 up, i had to put the instalation disc in to get it up... this is just confusing me...
[21:06] <bubbasaures> qual, Your description is pretty to broken to follow, we need info like live boots or an install at the least and any action leading to this scenario.
[21:08] <pips_> ~dconnolly@user1.kumc.edu
[21:08] <Rhapsody> I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto my secondary drive (an external SSD connected via eSATA). The thing is, Ubuntu can't see the partition I made for the Ubuntu installation when I run the Ubuntu installer after booting into Ubuntu (via my USB drive); it can only see the partitions from my main drive.
[21:09] <Rhapsody> Some info; the secondary drive is formatted as an MBR device, and all partitions are NTFS.
[21:09] <Rhapsody> The Ubuntu file manager can see and mount the secondary drive manually, but doesn't see it in the installer.
[21:09] <Ben64> Rhapsody: did you partition in windows
[21:10] <Rhapsody> Yes, I did
[21:10] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Is the drive not listed, or is it listed as being unpartitioned?
[21:10] <Rhapsody> Should I try gparted instead?
[21:10] <Ben64> there you go, windows is dumb with partitions
[21:10] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U:It's not listed in the list of partitions I can install Ubuntu to, but I can still select the actual drive from the menu asking me where to install the MBR
[21:10] <Ben64> this problem happens all the time in here, but i haven't seen a easy solution that doesn't destroy data
[21:11] <Rhapsody> Ben64: What do you mean? Isn't it as easy as merging the partition I wanted to use back into the main partition, and then using gparted to make the installation partition again
[21:11] <Rhapsody> ?
[21:11] <Ben64> well the problem is that windows creates some gpt data but not valid or something, so it breaks certain things
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[21:12] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U: I'm not booted into Ubuntu currently because of a recurring issue when trying to install Ubuntu
[21:12] <simo2200> hello
[21:12] <Ben64> i've seen people try to fix it using dd, gdisk, and other things, but not sure if any work
[21:12] <Rhapsody> When I get to the stage where it asks me where to install it, my connection drops every time and I can't reconnect without rebooting
[21:12] <Rhapsody> So for now I'm on Windows
[21:13] <Jordan_U> Ben64: That problem is easy to solve without destroying data: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[21:13] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U: I'll get back to you if I run into any issues. For now I'm going to merge my installation partition back into the main partition, and split it again in gparted
[21:13] <tafa2> would anyone know how to automate a checkinstall command?
[21:13] <Ben64> Jordan_U: yay!
[21:14] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: was the drive a gpt?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> tafa2: What is your end goal?
[21:14] <EriC^^> yeah as Jordan_U said ^^^
[21:14] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: The two formats are GPT and MBR, right?
[21:14] <tafa2> Jordan_U installing something on a few servers from source and need to automate the process
[21:14] <Rhapsody> If that's the case it's formatted as MBR since Windows requires MBR for installation and I have Windows 10 on this drive as well
[21:15] <Jordan_U> tafa2: What are you installing?
[21:15] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: if it was gpt and you converted to MBR ( you said you are using win7 earlier right? ) then stray gpt data would confuse the ubuntu installer
[21:15] <tafa2> accell-ppp Jordan_U
[21:15] <seed_> asdf
[21:15] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: yeah, but was it originally GPT ?
[21:15] <Rhapsody> EriC^^:Yes
[21:15] <daftykins> Rhapsody: Windows doesn't require MBR
[21:15] <EriC^^> then that's the problem, most likely
[21:15] <Rhapsody> daftykins: It doesn't let me install on the partition unless it's MBR with Windows
[21:15] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: use fixparts to remove the stray gpt data
[21:16] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: Will there be dataloss?
[21:16] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: no
[21:16] <daftykins> Rhapsody: version? booting EFI or not?
[21:16] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: i don't think so
[21:16] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: many have it before
[21:16] <EriC^^> *have done it
[21:16] <Rhapsody> daftykins: I'm currently dualbooting Windows 7 and 10, using the Windows 10 bootloader.
[21:16] <daftykins> Rhapsody: so are you booting in EFI mode or not?
[21:16] <Rhapsody> It originally had Windows 7, so take that into consideration; I don't know whether it is or not
[21:16] <tafa2> Rhapsody how is windows 10?
[21:17] <tafa2> Jordan_U any ideas?
[21:17] <Rhapsody> tafa2: Pretty nice, my only major bug was when I booted once and the startmenu didn't work, and shutdown stalled
[21:17] <Rhapsody> A hard restart fixed it
[21:17] <daftykins> ok you need to install OSs in the same mode, so boot your install media properly in EFI mode.
[21:18] <Rhapsody> daftykins: I don't know what EFI mode is. All I do is press ESC and select my boot media.
[21:18] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, There is a script you can run from ubuntu that would answer a lot of questions and get you on with your install likely.
[21:18] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: And that is?
[21:18] <Jordan_U> tafa2: Checkinstall will make a .deb for you, so you can just "dpkg -i" that .deb on all of your servers.
[21:18] <daftykins> Rhapsody: yeah you're not doing it right then. look up how to boot copies of Windows from USB flash drive in EFI mode, if your system is EFI capable
[21:18] <bubbasaures> !bootinfo | Rhapsody
[21:18] <seed_> howdy
[21:19] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: Send that to my email so I don't lose the link, please? I'll pm it to you
[21:19] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, I have pm off
[21:19] <Rhapsody> Ah
[21:19] <Rhapsody> Screw it
[21:19] <Rhapsody> rhapsodysmail@gmail.com
[21:19] <djoomla> good evening
[21:19] <bubbasaures> I'm not emailing from my own account
[21:20] <Rhapsody> Anyhow, I'll use fixparts first as suggested
[21:20] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: If you won't email it, I'll just rejoin when I get there
[21:20] <Rhapsody> Rebooting now, thanks all
[21:20] <daftykins> Rhapsody: tip: if you want to store something to remember, create a new email in your gmail and save it as a draft = instantly there and synced between devices
[21:20] <djoomla> can anyone help me with PGP keys on ubuntu? I can't run apt-get update as there are some expired keys, but when I try to delete them and run apt-key update it re-adds the old ones
[21:20] <Rhapsody> daftykins: Google Keep is a thing, I just remembered
[21:20] <tafa2> Jordan_U yeah... but not really an option... compliance+security paranoid people bla bla
[21:20] <daftykins> Rhapsody: that too.
[21:20] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, fixparts works well if you not efi in your installs and are mbr booting, however being backed up/imaged is your best insurance.
[21:21] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: boot into ubuntu, we can probably figure out what's going on
[21:21] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: Will do, rebooting now :)
[21:21] <Jordan_U> tafa2: So for security reasons you're required to build the same program on multiple different machines rather than building once and installing it on all of the machines?
[21:22] <tafa2> can you believe it
[21:22] <tafa2> the source is checked from a secure place
[21:22] <tafa2> *checked out
[21:22] <tafa2> where "it hasn't been tampered with"
[21:22] <tafa2> but building the deb
[21:22] <tafa2> and distributing that is too much work
[21:23] <bekks> tafa2: Much less work than building it on every host.
[21:23] <tafa2> bekks sorry i forgot to add </sarcasm>
[21:24] <Rhapsody> Okay, I'm on Ubuntu now.
[21:24] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, cool
[21:24] <Rhapsody> So what do I do?
[21:25] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: sudo parted -l
[21:25] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: That brings up info about my drive, but not the drive I want to install to
[21:25] <EriC^^> and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com, or install pastebinit ( sudo apt-get install pastebinit )
[21:25] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: interesting
[21:26] <EriC^^> type gdisk -l /dev/sdx
[21:26] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: Give me a second, I think I need to manually mount the other drives
[21:26] <bekks> Rhapsody: You dont need the drives to mount for using fdisk/gdisk
[21:27] <Rhapsody> bekks: Apparently. I mounted them and got the same result
[21:27] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l", whatever that happens to be.
[21:27] <Rhapsody> Oh, I see why it didn't show up now!
[21:27] <bekks> Rhapsody: Why?
[21:27] <Rhapsody> parted prevents the rest of the output from showing up if it asks for a yes/no until that's answered
[21:28] <Rhapsody> I CTRL+Ced out and it printed the rest
[21:28] <EriC^^> what's it asking about?
[21:28] <Rhapsody> I'll show you in a second, pasting the output
[21:28] <AndrewMock> Hi where can I find the current location of what used to be /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[21:28] <AndrewMock> I want to enable XDMCPServer
[21:28] <EriC^^> AndrewMock: locate lightdm.conf
[21:29] <Rhapsody> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8576053/
[21:29] <Rhapsody> EriC^^
[21:30] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, seems it has stray gpt data
[21:30] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: is that the whole setup?
[21:30] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: Note that that's the first drive, not the secondary drive
[21:30] <EriC^^> win7 + win10 ?
[21:31] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: The 840 EVO is the secondary drive, the first drive contains Windows 7, the second drive contains windows 10, and the USB is there to let me install Ubuntu
[21:31] <Rhapsody> In other words, what I'm currently using
[21:31] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, that's good
[21:31] <EriC^^> fixparts should do it
[21:32] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: It claims the partition table is GPT, but I used a program to switch it to MBR without data loss, unlike what MS's program would've done.
[21:32] <Rhapsody> Wat should I put in as the name when it asks?
[21:32] <EriC^^> /dev/sdb
[21:32] <ego> Hi everyone, I am getting warnings for low space on root repeatedly and can't figure out how it's filling up or what can I delete to fix it. I would appreciate some help, please.
[21:32] <stoogenmeyer> hi, I'm encountering a strange issue, I have a dump.rdb.gz file, in my script, I set f=dump.rdb.gz, then gzip -d $f, which gives me the error: gzip: compressed data not read from a terminal. Use -f to force decompression. If I do the exact same process from the command line it works fine
[21:33] <AndrewMock> Okay, how do I enable XDMCP over the command line in Trusty?
[21:33] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8576075/
[21:34] <Rhapsody> So what do I type next?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: The program you used left the GPT signatures around, which parted doesn't like. You can use fixparts, as described here: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/ , to whipe the GPT signatures.
[21:34] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U: I already ran the command if you read the output again, it's now leaving me with an MBR command prompt.
[21:34] <Rhapsody> Does that guide discuss that?
[21:35] <Mugen_Deutsche> hi guys, i am a newbie in linux and i have installed ubuntu desktop already. how can i install redhat to make it dual boot ?
[21:36] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: it seems to be a bug in fixparts
[21:36] <bekks> Mugen_Deutsche: Thats a question for the redhat support channel :)
[21:36] <walooo> dir
[21:36] <EriC^^> http://superuser.com/questions/706242/partition-problems-after-resizing
[21:36] <Mugen_Deutsche> i will insta;; redhat not the desktop
[21:36] <k1l_> Mugen_Deutsche: install redhat on different partitions. their bootloader should recognize ubuntu
[21:36] <Mugen_Deutsche> oh ok
[21:36] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U: I didn't know that it didn't actually do anything yet, whoops. EriC^^, will this pose a problem for me, in short?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Just enter 'q' and re-run "sudo parted -l".
[21:36] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: i dont think so
[21:36] <walooo> al9lawi
[21:36] <walooo> al9lawi
[21:37] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: i think the 0xEE means a protective mbr
[21:37] <ego> I ran sudo du -hs /*, and the directories takin up the most space are /lib (2.2G), /opt(1.5G), /usr (8.1G) and /var (5G), apart from /home which is 24G. I have no idea if these sizes are normal. I have now only about 16M of free space in root
[21:37] <walooo> pour
[21:37] <bekks> ego: My /home is about 120M.
[21:37] <ego> *160M
[21:38] <ego> bekks: Thanks. I do download a lot ofo movies, so I gave /home a big chink. This doesn't seem to be the problem, though.
[21:38] <Ben64> ego: what partitions do you have
[21:40] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U: It already stated that it's erased GPT data from the drive. Is my issue over now?
[21:40] <bekks> ego: Well, I guess you installed quite a lot of software which you dont use actually - do you? :)
[21:40] <ego> Ben64, I only have swap, root and home, plus other windows-related partitions.
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Check by running "sudo parted -l".
[21:41] <ego> bekks, I HAVE installed quite abit, but I'm not sure it's stuff I don't use.
[21:41] <Ben64> ego: ok, so how big is root
[21:41] <ego> Ben64, 18.64G
[21:42] <Ben64> and you filled that up? wow. mine is 24GB and I've used only 8.3GB
[21:42] <ego> bekks, The weird thing is that it seems root is filling up without me installing extra stuff.
[21:42] <khaya> is there a way to play .wav format in ubuntu?
[21:43] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8576110/
[21:43] <Esor> hi
[21:43] <Ben64> khaya: yes, many ways. any media player should be able to
[21:43] <Jordan_U> khaya: Yes. Any of the many media players available in Ubuntu can open .wav files.
[21:43] <smog> khaya: apt-get install bplay
[21:43] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, it sees the partitions, the installer should as well
[21:44] <khaya> sorry I meant  to say .wma?
[21:44] <Esor> does anybody know how to make in bash file (cd folder) in nice way in one line
[21:44] <bekks> ego: Thats due to log files, etc. - I'd just uninstall all those big software packages I dont use/need
[21:44] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U: Looks good, or is there a problem?
[21:44] <EriC^^> Esor: make cd folder ?
[21:44] <bekks> khaya: wma is just a n audio container.
[21:44] <Esor> without using cd + enter
[21:45] <Esor> for example cd blabla
[21:45] <Esor> to access a folder
[21:45] <Jordan_U> khaya: Yes, many of Ubuntu's available players can play .wma files, though since it's a patented format support can't be included by default. Have you tried double clicking the file? It should open the file in Totem media player, which will then prompt you to install the needed packages.
[21:45] <ego> bekks, Thanks, but I'm not sure there are any that I don't need. Plus, it has been a good while since I installed any big software, and my computer's been acting up only recently.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Looks good.
[21:46] <Esor> i made a bash file with wine ./CoDMP.exe
[21:46] <EriC^^> Esor: cd <directory>; <other commands>
[21:46] <bekks> ego: I am very sure there is quite a lot of stuff you dont use with 1.5GB /opt and 8 GB /usr :)
[21:46] <Esor> and i would like to have in bash file the directory of the place the file i run is
[21:47] <khaya> media player opens and shut-down immediately
[21:47] <Esor> ah so
[21:47] <Esor> cd blabla; wine ./CoDMP.exe ?
[21:47] <khaya> Amarok
[21:47] <ego> Ben64, I'm also noticing there is another partition that has 45G free space. It must be related to linux because it's ext4, but doesn't say what mount point it is.
[21:48] <EriC^^> Esor: it would be as if you were in the directory in an open terminal
[21:48] <Jordan_U> khaya: Is this .wma file wrapped in DRM?
[21:49] <khaya> I don"t know how to check that
[21:49] <geirha> If it's a one-liner it should be cd blabla && wine ./CoDMP.exe  # cd's exit status should not go unchecked
[21:49] <ego> bekks: Thanks. I noticed that /usr/lib takes up over 4G. Is this anywhere near normal? I'm not sure what files to delete from there. I use computer vision and robotics libraries frequently. Is it possible it all comes from that?
[21:49] <bekks> ego: It depends on the aoftware you installed.
[21:50] <EriC^^> Esor: ^^ as geirha suggested
[21:50] <bekks> ego: And you dont delete just files, but you have to uninstall software packages. Deleting files will corrupt your package management system.
[21:50] <NCS_One> hi
[21:50] <Jordan_U> khaya: Did you purchase this file or rip it from a CD. If you purchased the file, it probably has DRM (because otherwise they would have likely gone with mp3 or aiff). Do you know what DRM is?
[21:51] <tafa2> brand new vps
[21:51] <teward> running `do-release-upgrade -s` is a safe way to generate the changes list that will happen during upgrade, right?  Without actually running the upgrade
[21:51] <tafa2> its getting stuck on apt-get update
[21:51] <NCS_One> I changed xorg.conf and forgot to backup the original, if I delete the file and restart it creates another?
[21:51] <tafa2> just waiting for headers
[21:51] <ego> bekks, but why is my computer acting up just now, and not months ago when I last installed big software? Also, why is it still filling up, if I haven't installed anything recently (yesterday i had 300M free space, today it's half of that).
[21:52] <bekks> ego: Just check the software installed and uninstall the software you dont need.
[21:52] <Esor> thanks
[21:52] <PandaStyle> Hi, Guys could someone assist me with installing Nvidia drivers for 14.04?
[21:52] <bekks> ego: You can also try to find all files younger than 24h e.g., using "find".
[21:52] <AndrewMock> Guys, how I enable XDMCPServer from the command line?
[21:52] <k1l_> PandaStyle: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[21:52] <Esor> PandaStyle, in terminal
[21:52] <khaya> ripped it with CD
[21:52] <PandaStyle> just like that k1l? awesome thanks!
[21:53] <Esor> press the big blue icon in the right left corner and type terminal there
[21:53] <Esor> and type there what k1l_ said
[21:54] <ego> bekks: Ok. Do you know how can I get list of the software I have installed? I am not very much experienced with the command line, so I don't know most commands.
[21:54] <Guest96717> I want to buy a new laptop but i found that Ubuntu 14.04 does not support Nvidia 840m
[21:54] <Guest96717> Is there a fix for that issue
[21:54] <k1l_> ego: "dpkg --get-selections | awk '!/deinstall|purge|hold/ {print $1}' > packages.list "
[21:55] <bekks> ego: I'd just use "synaptic" which is a frontend for the package management system.
[21:55] <ego> bekks; Thanks. Let me give it a go and I'll be back to tell you if it worked.
[21:56] <EriC^^> ego: use the software center, and it also has a history tab
[21:56] <Guest50692> Propellerhead Reason
[21:56] <ego> EriC^^, Thanks, I'll try that.
[21:57] <PandaStyle> Can anyone recommend some starting software for an initial xubuntu install?
[21:57] <Guest50692> this program Propellerhead Reason
[21:57] <Guest50692> any one have
[21:58] <teward> PandaStyle: just the standard Xubuntu install, it should come with most of the stuff you'll need
[21:58] <k1l_> Guest50692: this is not a warez channel.
[21:59] <k1l_> PandaStyle: that depends on the stuff you want to do :) just start using (x)ubuntu like you would use another OS and install the programs from the softwarecenter you need
[21:59] <PandaStyle> yeah thanks, I've just made the move from windows now, Trying to make a really big push so that *buntu will be my daily OS
[22:00] <Esor> PandaStyle, ubuntu is easier and better
[22:00] <Esor> than xubuntu imo
[22:00] <teward> Esor: might be a load factor issue
[22:00] <teward> Esor: Ubuntu is pretty heavy on low-resource system
[22:00] <Esor> I've had million issues with games on xubuntu
[22:00] <Esor> teward, sorry
[22:01] <Esor> (anyway compton fixed most of them)
[22:01] <PandaStyle> I have tried ubuntu before and just spent the entire of yesterday VM'ing distros from debian to fedora and i prefer the XFCE
[22:01] <ObrienDave> PandaStyle, Xubuntu come with a lot of software. what are you looking for?
[22:02] <Esor> Steam!
[22:02] <bekks> PandaStyle: You can use pretty much every desktop environment on pretty much every linux distro :)
[22:02] <PandaStyle> actually this is perfect :X how do i reply to a user like you guys are doing to me now on Xchat?
[22:03] <bekks> PandaStyle: Just type the first part of the name and press the tab key :)
[22:03] <k1l_> but back to the question: if you got a task: search for a program. every one got other usecases for their systems
[22:03] <ObrienDave> PandaStyle, use TAB to auto complete user names
[22:03] <rww> PandaStyle: put their nick at the start of your message. Generally, typing the first few letters and pressing tab will do that
[22:03] <k1l_> Panda<tab>
[22:03] <PandaStyle> bekks, ObrienDave, rww, k1l_ , thanks guys! i see it works multi user to
[22:04] <k1l_> PandaStyle: that works in the terminal for /path/to/file and commands like apt-get too
[22:04] <PandaStyle> bekks, I'm still trying to work it all out but how i unserstand it so far is if i install multiple DE's I keep the other apps eg, LXDE's Terminal which might cause bloat
[22:05] <somebody> PandaStyle: ...but if you are looking for Ubuntu experience, not welding XFCE to an ArchLinux, I would go with the Xubuntu. :)
[22:05] <k1l_> but on modern systems the "bloat" is not really hurting anyone
[22:05] <squinty> PandaStyle:  if you are using hexchat, double clicking on person's nick and the pasting works too  (some other irc clients use Shift double click)
[22:05] <PandaStyle> k1l_, thanks good to know, i was wandering actually I read a post somewhere about a guy modding his terminal to have a "pipboy" feel does anyone have any experiance with this? im sure i could find it easilly enough
[22:06] <rigor789> EriC^^ Hey, I pasted my commands a few hours ago, but it doesn't matter anymore... it just got responsive after not doing anything to it... I guess I didn't reboot it enough times xD
[22:06] <PandaStyle> somebody, hehe i tried archlinux I felt like a true command line h@xX0r but damn as a daily driver i think it may take me a week to setup, Xubuntu feels right i guess just what i need, maybe ill poke around with LXDE to
[22:07] <somebody> PandaStyle: There might be something that is already built on Ubuntu with LXDE on top of it, check Distrowatch.
[22:07] <somebody> PandaStyle: It'll save you time.
[22:07] <PandaStyle> oh dear, Anyone know an alternative to windows' "snipping" tool really quick?
[22:08] <EriC^^> rigor789: :D
[22:08] <PandaStyle> somebody, I have seen Lubuntu, I guess i am inbetween LXDE and XFCE at the moment
[22:09] <somebody> PandaStyle: Snipping? Like, screenshot taking?
[22:09] <matrixa1> somebody, he means this http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/snipping-tool
[22:09] <PandaStyle> @somebody pretty much yeah, Bonus would be auto upload to say imgur or similar <3
[22:09] <somebody> PandaStyle: Shutter.
[22:09] <somebody> PandaStyle: It can be configured to upload almost anywhere, if you want it to.
[22:10] <Rhapsody> So, I need some help. I installed Ubuntu to my secondary SSD's partition, and it installed fine. Thing is, once I restarted after the install, I went straight to the Windows bootloader (since it gave me the option to boot into Windows 10 or Windows 7, but no option for Ubuntu)
[22:10] <Rhapsody> This implies GRUB wasn't installed at all or it doesn't see the partition?
[22:10] <PandaStyle> somebody, will take a look thanks!
[22:10] <somebody> Rhapsody: You need to install it to the MBR. I guess it wasn't where you looked for it.
[22:11] <Rhapsody> I looked for it on that partition, which wasn't correct, then.
[22:11] <somebody> PandaStyle: You won't be disappointed, or your money back. Shutter is a monstrous Swiss army knife of screenshot taking.
[22:11] <Rhapsody> How do I identify where the MBR was, and is there any way to do it without having to install again?
[22:12] <PandaStyle> somebody, Agh! the dreaded attempt to install 2 packages at once hehe anyway around it or should i just wait to install shutter?
[22:12] <somebody> ??mbr
[22:12] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, Set the SSD as first read in the bios if not already.
[22:12] <PandaStyle> MBR = master boot record
[22:12] <somebody> Ughh, wasn't there a bot on #Ubuntu?
[22:12] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: Not possible, BIOS is locked
[22:13] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, By whom?
[22:13] <Rhapsody> It came like that.
[22:13] <somebody> PandaStyle: Not really. You can queue, but that's about it.
[22:13] <Rhapsody> I'd rather not have to delve deeper into this to get Ubuntu working, I just want to get it done, bubbasaures. If I can't re-arrange the boot order, do I have to reinstall Ubuntu or not?
[22:13] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, Can be unlocked the manual or manufacturer can help there, very important access in the end.
[22:14] <PandaStyle> somebody, minor issue, but i could live with it, thanks for the help! oh another think actually is there an easy way to "duplicate" a terminal window or just a easy way to open another one
[22:14] <PandaStyle> remember im on XFCE
[22:14] <think> did someone say my name?
[22:15] <somebody> PandaStyle: I don't have experience with the XFCE, but usually, either [Ctrl] + [T], or [Ctrl] + [N] will do the trick.
[22:15] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, The bios controls many things, for one the HD rad at boot, much easier to deal with than reinstalling or monkeying around at half mast getting around it.
[22:15] <bubbasaures> read*
[22:15] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: whichever drive is in the bios's boot order is going to be booted
[22:15] <NCS_One> hi
[22:15] <think> hi
[22:15] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: I'm essentially looking to install GRUB post Ubuntu install, then?
[22:15] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: you need to select the drive that has ubuntu so that grub is loaded
[22:15] <EriC^^> no, ^^
[22:16] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: That's an impossibility, this is a school laptop. The only reason this is okay is because I can restore the original bootloader when I'm done.
[22:16] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: i don't follow
[22:16] <PandaStyle> somebody, well Ctrl + T didnt work but [windows](is there another name seeming as *nix?) + T worked fine
[22:16] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: all you have to do is select the drive which has ubuntu
[22:16] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: I can't unlock the BIOS because it's locked by the school administration.
[22:16] <EriC^^> ( totally reversible by selecting whichever drive you have right now )
[22:17] <somebody> PandaStyle: Try opening a help window via [F1] with the apps shortcut list. It helps.
[22:17] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, well which bootloader is being selected right now? win7 or win10's ?
[22:17] <Rhapsody> Win10's, since it overwrote Windows 7's
[22:17] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, There is an per session boot, mine is f12 at powering on, as if you were trying to get to the bios. You choose the boot from this menu.
[22:17] <EriC^^> hm
[22:17] <EriC^^> yeah that too, but you'd have to press it each time
[22:17] <PandaStyle> somebody, awesome thanks, btw i xubuntu considered a rolling release?
[22:18] <ObrienDave> no
[22:18] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: It's possible for me to boot into a specific device, but NOT a specific partition, via that menu.
[22:18] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: The option to re-arrange the boot order is more than likely in the actual BIOS settings.
[22:18] <somebody> PandaStyle: I guess so, not really sure.
[22:18] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: you are booting a specific drive
[22:18] <somebody> PandaStyle: Wait, no.
[22:18] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, correct your not booting the partition grub is, you want the device grub and ubuntu is on to boot.
[22:18] <somebody> PandaStyle: Most Ubuntu derivatives follow it's release schedule.
[22:19] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: you can boot a live usb, and install grub to whichever disk that is being loaded
[22:19] <Rhapsody> bubbasaures: Let me set this straight; I installed GRUB on the same partition as I installed Ubuntu on, which was a mistake; it should've been installed to the main partition of the first drive.
[22:19] <NCS_One> I changed xorg.conf and forgot to backup the original one, how can I create another? tryed "sudo X -configure" but it gives a error
[22:19] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: Thank you, that's all I needed.
[22:19] <Rhapsody> I'm going to reboot into Ubuntu now.
[22:19] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: you installed grub to the same disk, not partition
[22:20] <bubbasaures> Rhapsody, Ah, on the install partition, easy mistake, as suggested you can fix this with a live boot.
[22:20] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, you'll have to mount and chroot
[22:20] <Rhapsody> EriC^^:The current bootloader, Windows 7/10's, is on the first drive, which is where GRUB was supposed to be
[22:20] <Rhapsody> That's what I was asking how to fix the entire time
[22:20] <Rhapsody> Once I reboot into Ubuntu I'll come back on for further instructions, EriC^^, okay?
[22:20] <EriC^^> ok
[22:21] <somebody> Okay, goodbye everyone.
[22:21] <think> Buhbye!
[22:21] <somebody> PandaStyle: I hope I was of help.
[22:23] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: I'm on Ubuntu now.
[22:24] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, type sudo parted -l and please paste it
[22:24] <PandaStyle> someone, you were awesome thanks!
[22:25] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8576253/
[22:25] <fartface> Is there a way to run a specific users crontab manually?  Like if I've run 'crontab -e' as user 'foo', can I, as 'root', run 'foo's crontab?
[22:26] <rww> fartface: crontab -u foo -e
[22:26] <rww> oh, run
[22:26] <rww> hrm
[22:26] <rww> it automatically starts running at the appropriate time?
[22:26] <fartface> I'm trying to test whether it runs or not without editing the time itself
[22:26] <flametai1> I have a Dell Latitude D531 and I installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x32 Wireless will connect to my router but firefox won't load any websites and says there's no connection. Any ideas peoples?
[22:27] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[22:27] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: Done
[22:28] <EriC^^> fartface: test if it runs using * * * * * , should run after a min
[22:28] <NegativeFlare> flametai1: sounds like either the card is using a bad IP
[22:28] <NegativeFlare> eg. 169.*.*.*
[22:28] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: The card is using 192.168.2.8 which is not a double IP :/
[22:28] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[22:29] <NegativeFlare> flametai1: Are you able to ping google on the terminal?
[22:29] <EriC^^> ( fartface , it will run every min )
[22:29] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: Done, what was that?
[22:29] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: I tried using ping www.google.com and get "unreachable"
[22:29] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: it mounts --bind other filesystems needed
[22:30] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: Ontop of that, the laptop is seen on the routers configuration screen
[22:30] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: sudo chroot /mnt
[22:30] <NegativeFlare> flametai1: alright well trying doing this: ping 8.8.8.8
[22:30] <NegativeFlare> if that works, then you've got DNS resolution issues
[22:30] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: Done
[22:31] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: the 320GB disk is the one that's being booted, right?
[22:32] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: The 320GB disk is the main drive which is where Windows 7 and the bootloader are, and the 840 EVO is the secondary, where Windows 10 and the Ubuntu install are
[22:33] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok
[22:33] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: I get something I've never seen one sec I'll see if I can get a pic or something
[22:33] <NegativeFlare> flametai1: Alright.
[22:33] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: curious why you have a 110GB fat32 hidden partition
[22:34] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: It came that way, I can only assume it's an oversized recovery partition
[22:34] <EriC^^> oh ok
[22:34] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: That's the partition with Windows 7, as I said, which is what the school included.
[22:34] <Rhapsody> I'm not willing to touch that partition structure.
[22:34] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:34] <EriC^^> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[22:35] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: Installation finished, no error reported
[22:35] <EriC^^> update-grub
[22:35] <Rhapsody> Unless I don't know English I think it worked
[22:35] <EriC^^> almost there
[22:35] <Rhapsody> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8576285/
[22:35] <Rhapsody> EriC^^:
[22:36] <EriC^^> perfect.
[22:36] <EriC^^> it found the win7 loader
[22:36] <EriC^^> type exit
[22:36] <Rhapsody> Anyhow, I'm going to boot into Windows 10 first to ensure that still works, then I'll test Ubuntu
[22:36] <Rhapsody> Thanks.
[22:36] <daedeloth> anyone with experience with hostapd? I'm stuck.
[22:36] <LinuxWannabe> should I burn the linux.iso using 1X speed? or is that unnecessarily slow?
[22:36] <Guest47448> hello world, i want to create a fakeraid 0 with windows 7 and ubuntu in dualboot. does anyone have experience with this? is there anything special i have to look out for?
[22:37] <Rhapsody> EriC^^: ...We are done, right?
[22:37] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, type exit
[22:37] <Rhapsody> I did
[22:37] <ObrienDave> LinuxWannabe, maybe, go as fast as you can with out errors on the burn
[22:37] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, sudo reboot
[22:37] <LinuxWannabe> ObrienDave, so what speed will that be?
[22:37] <Rhapsody> Okay, thanks!
[22:37] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: yeah, we're done
[22:38] <Rhapsody> If I run into any issues I'll come back
[22:38] <Rhapsody> Let's hope I don't :P
[22:38] <EriC^^> ok
[22:38] <EriC^^> haha :D
[22:38] <LinuxWannabe> ObrienDave, how do i know what that speed would be?
[22:38] <think> Linuxwannabe: Its ideally safer, but myself, i go the fastest it can burn :P
[22:38] <squinty> LinuxWannabe:  fwiw, i usually burn at 4X without any problems
[22:38] <LinuxWannabe> squinty, ok. i'll go with 4x
[22:38] <LinuxWannabe> thx
[22:38] <squinty> yw
[22:38] <ObrienDave> LinuxWannabe, your burner will adjust to the rating of the disk
[22:38] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: http://pastebin.com/dDAVmiHa
[22:39] <LinuxWannabe> squinty, ObrienDave: Should I go with "DVD High Compatibilty"?
[22:39] <NegativeFlare> flametai1: oohhh packet loose
[22:39] <NegativeFlare> lose*
[22:39] <think> loss
[22:39] <LinuxWannabe> squinty, ObrienDave what about "Mode 2XA instead of Mode1?
[22:39] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: You think?
[22:40] <wjtaylor> how can I get the motherboard make/model? Can I get this from BIOS?
[22:40] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: My Windows 7 laptop works perfectly fine with the router and always get 0 packet loss
[22:40] <NegativeFlare> flametai1: mhm, so its either one of several things. Including: 1. Bad Driver 2. Bad wireless connection. 3. Or the card is dying.
[22:40] <ObrienDave> LinuxWannabe, no, just standard joliet mode will do
[22:40] <Finetundra> i'm having an issue that when i try to boot i get as far as the splash screen and then i cannot get my monitor to display
[22:41] <squinty> LinuxWannabe:  no idea of on either of those.  for the rare times I burn DVD's etc these days I use imgburn on windows.... stick it in select 4X and away she goes.  :P
[22:41] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: Possibility of bad driver?
[22:41] <NegativeFlare> flametai1: yup, some drivers don't work properly with certain cards
[22:41] <NegativeFlare> Like Broadcom's for example
[22:42] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: I found this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2229752) But it seemed unrelated to the same thing I had, with this one the guy said it had troubles connecting in general
[22:42] <NegativeFlare> Yeahhh, if you have the same card as this guy. You're going to have trouble.
[22:43] <NegativeFlare> Broadcom cards are notorious for being a pain
[22:43] <NegativeFlare> flametai1: The only thing I can tell you to do, is to try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[22:44] <NegativeFlare> I'll bbl - my wife calls!
[22:44] <flametai1> NegativeFlare: Joy, haha and I have to do this to about 25 laptops of the same model XD and thank you for your time and help
[22:45] <squinty> wjtaylor:  personally i find  https://code.google.com/p/inxi/   handy for that kind of thing.  See the "Machine" line at the demo output on that page for details.  inxi should be in your repo and installable via your software manager
[22:45] <loa> hello. i can't install libreoffice on my i386 machine, it said that archive is broken. what can i try?
[22:47] <Rhapsody> I actually am running into a bit of an issue. I'm on Ubuntu now, my computer claims to connect successfully, and my router can see the IP of the device, I checked.
[22:47] <Rhapsody> However, when I try to go online or ping a site it times out.
[22:47] <squinty> loa:  you should be able to install libreoffice via the software manager or apt-get etc.  are you sure it's not already installed as it seems to be part of the default installation these days?
[22:47] <wjtaylor> squinty: I can't get the machine to boot, and I need a manual to look into jumpers....
[22:48] <wjtaylor> Thanks though
[22:48] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ping google.com in a terminal
[22:48] <loa> squinty, when i update my system, update stoped on updating libreoffice-writer. and now i am stucked.
[22:48] <EriC^^> does the dns resolve? do you get a response?
[22:49] <Rhapsody> Unknown host google.com, appears after a bit
[22:50] <Finetundra> i'm having flashing issues with my monitor. i'm on ubuntu server 13.10
[22:51] <daftykins> Finetundra: please upgrade to a supported release
[22:52] <Finetundra> dafytkins, from a live cd i'm guessing?
[22:52] <squinty> loa:  try   sudo dpkg --configure -a    and then updating again
[22:53] <Rhapsody> EriC^^, I replied but can't easily ping you since I'm on my ipad right now
[22:54] <daftykins> Finetundra: upgrade? not necessarily no.
[22:55] <loa> squinty, already done. i run in very bad situation after that libreoffice thing. my system don't boot. I found that command and run it from chroot from livecd.
[22:55] <flametai1> Rhapsody: That sounds like what I'm having troubles with as well.
[22:55] <Finetundra> dafytkins, as i said the monitor is not behaving properly
[22:58] <Guest47448> does anyone have experience with fakeraid 0 setups?
[23:00] <squinty> wjtaylor: fwiw, if you can boot the livedvd (or usb with option persistence) on that unit you can install inxi. Just a suggestion if you can't locate a specifications manual etc from the unit's manufacturer...
[23:00] <squinty> wjtaylor:  option = optional
[23:01] <loa> squinty, looks like i have hardware problems with data integrity. i run sudo apt-get install libreoffice-writer again and again, and finally it installed.
[23:03] <wjtaylor> sqinty: It's kind of an old motherboard. It has sata and pata. HDD is pata, but cannot get the dvddrive (sata) to boot
[23:03] <wjtaylor> squinty^
[23:03] <squinty> loa:  good to hear on the reinstall.  maybe run fsck  on your drive to check for problems.  might also use the Disks program to check for Smart Data and Selftests to see if it says anything
[23:06] <squinty> wjtaylor:  guess you have already checked boot preferences in BIOS and/or hot key boot sequence via the computer splash screen when booting (eg F12 for example)?
[23:07] <loa> squinty, can you help me in another question. because of that data problems with archieve my ubuntu failed to load. It was very bad because i don't know what to do. Looks like installer don't finished some tasks and dpkg --confugre -a helped me.
[23:07] <squinty> wjtaylor:  tried another live dvd to eliminate the disk itself?
[23:08] <loa> squinty, so i upgrade proccess failed for some reason i must run dpkg --configure -a every time?
[23:08] <loa> i am right?
[23:09] <wjtaylor> squinty: Yes, checked boot priority and media. I don't see it in the bios though.. should optical drives show? I don't even see anything for sata channels in bios
[23:09] <wjtaylor> I see a brief glimpse of the drive being detected during a startup screen, on serial channel 0, but that's it...
[23:09] <wjtaylor> wondering if the drive is faulty... it's new
[23:10] <wjtaylor> course the board is a pretty shitty old board too. :)
[23:10] <squinty> loa: the software will more than likely display that message after the failure.  it is not going to, afaik, hurt anything to run that command anyways.
[23:10] <Rhapsody> I'm trying to connect to the internet in my new Ubuntu install, but when I connect to my network, it says that it's connected, but I can't even ping Google.
[23:11] <daftykins> Rhapsody: why are you modifying a school laptop?
[23:11] <loa> squinty, so again. Look what happened. I run apt-get upgrade. And after plenty of packages upgrade stucked on libreoffice-writer. I tried to reboot. And system did not load. What was my mistake?
[23:11] <squinty> wjtaylor:  usually there is a BIOS option to boot from cd/dvd drives even on older equipment. seems strange that is not showing up.. :(
[23:11] <loa> looks like some packages was not setuped properly right?
[23:12] <loa> and dpkg --configure -a relsolved it?
[23:12] <Ali_M_Ahmed> exe.exit
[23:12] <Rhapsody> daftykins, all I'm trying to do is boot into Ubuntu via an external SSD. This is already done, and now I have a new problem as stated above
[23:13] <Rhapsody> Additionally, the connection worked fine in the live session, but not the install
[23:13] <daftykins> Rhapsody: uh-huh, use network manager to specify DNS servers manually
[23:15] <Rhapsody> daftykins, I have no program called Network Manager
[23:16] <Rhapsody> I'm looking at Network in System Settings, though
[23:16] <daftykins> Rhapsody: it's not a program, kind of, it's the network icon in the tray.
[23:17] <squinty> loa:  might be you have a corrupted deb package in your cache which the installer tried using again.  might want to check /var/cache/apt/archives/ for the relevant libreoffice-writer deb and delete it to elimate it as a potential problem source.  then run the  sudo dpkg --configure -a   again and then try updating again
[23:17] <Rhapsody> Done, connection still isn't working
[23:17] <Rhapsody> Do I need to reboot?
[23:17] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Does "ping 8.8.8.8" succeed?
[23:17] <daftykins> Rhapsody: what is 'done' ? you need to share the actual actions you took.
[23:18] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: i dont think so, you can reboot the network manager with sudo service network-manager restart
[23:18] <Rhapsody> I added the DNS servers like you asked?
[23:18] <daftykins> *which*
[23:18] <daftykins> you are giving a part answer
[23:18] <Rhapsody> Google DNS
[23:19] <loa> squinty, i removed package from there few times.
[23:19] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U, I can't copy it, so ill paraphrase the result
[23:19] <Rhapsody> 12 packets sent, 9 errors, 100% packet loss
[23:20] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Ok, that gives me the information I needed. It's more than just a DNS problem.
[23:20] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U, in case you didn't see, the router itself sees the device and it's assigned an VIP
[23:20] <Rhapsody> *IP
[23:21] <Rhapsody> BUT I can't access the router's panel from the device.
[23:21] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Try pinging the ip address of your router. Does that succeed (zero or close to it packet loss)?
[23:22] <Rhapsody> Failure, Jordan_U, 100% packet loss
[23:23] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: The entry in your router's control panel may actually be referring to the connection you had while you were booted from the LiveUSB. I'll bet if you disconnected entirely, the entry would still be there.
[23:23] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U, I'm not sure about that, the IP Ubuntu says it has and the IP reported to the router match up
[23:24] <squinty> loa:  maybe cat /var/log/dpkg.log will say something.  might want to try switching servers too to see if that makes any difference
[23:24] <ident849384> ip lease time could account for that Rhapsody
[23:25] <Rhapsody> Fair enough
[23:25] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U, so what can I do?
[23:26] <ident849384> what device Rhapsody?  you can't always access the gateway via wi-fi or web connections for security reasons
[23:26] <Rhapsody> It's a laptop
[23:26] <Jordan_U> ident849384: They can't even ping their router, so there is definitely a connection problem.
[23:26] <Rhapsody> A ProBook 6560b, to be exact
[23:27] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Please pastebin the output of "nm-tool", "ifconfig", "ip route", and "dmesg". You'll need to save the output to a flash drive or otherwise get it to a machine that can connect to the internet.
[23:28] <ident849384> Rhapsody: how did you determinte the gateway IP?
[23:28] <justicefries> anybody using the google-authenticator PAM module?
[23:28] <Rhapsody> It says it in the connection's properties
[23:28] <Rhapsody> Jordan_U, ill try to get it plugged in directly
[23:28] <ident849384> do you have a single modem/wi-fi router or do you use two devices?
[23:28] <Rhapsody> I have a modem and router
[23:29] <Rhapsody> I'll be back shortly, I'm going to try to get connected via ethernet
[23:38] <Rhapsody> Quick progress report, I tried connecting the computer via Ethernet and even then it couldn't connect to a site
[23:38] <Rhapsody> This never happened on Windows.
[23:39] <daftykins> uh-huh.
[23:39] <EriC^^>  lol
[23:41] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: do you have the automatic DHCP on?
[23:41] <Rhapsody> Yes
[23:42] <EriC^^> Try turning it off, and set things manually
[23:43] <Rhapsody> I have no idea what to put in
[23:44] <cryptodan> Is your network card even detected and functioning?
[23:44] <ident726938> do you even lift bro?
[23:45] <ident726938> ping 127.0.0.1
[23:46] <ident726938> Rhapsody, i didn't catch your whole issue.  what's going on?
[23:47] <cryptodan> or type in sudo ifconfig and see if you see an ethX or wlanX where X is a number
[23:47] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Can you remove the Ubuntu lease from your roouter's DHCP table? I'm wondering if your router doesn't like the same MAC address connecting two times in a short period of time, but with different hostnames.
[23:48] <ident726938> is there a wi-fi switch that needs turned on or a button that needs extra drivers to function
[23:49] <ident726938> i had a laptop like that once.  needed extra drivers to make the wi-fi button work
[23:53] <Rhapsody> EriC^^, I must've times out
[23:53] <Rhapsody> *timed
[23:53] <Rhapsody> But yeah, it didn't work.
[23:53] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: ok, what didn't?
[23:53] <Rhapsody> Changing to manual configuration
[23:54] <Rhapsody> Someone earlier asked for the output of some commands pastebinned. I could just save them in another partition accessible by Windows and boot into that
[23:55] <Rhapsody> Who asked that?
[23:55] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: type lspci | grep controller
[23:56] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: type lspci | grep 'Network controller'
[23:56] <Rhapsody> I see a Broadcom wireless adapter
[23:56] <digitsm> Hello
[23:57] <EriC^^> ok, and lspci | grep Ethernet
[23:57] <ident726938> need quotes "Network controller"
[23:57] <ident726938> and a capitol N?
[23:57] <digitsm> I have a problem: I make tightvnc work on my PC, but it doesn't show my xfce4 desktop well
[23:57] <EriC^^> ident726938: ' works, and yes capital N
[23:57] <cryptodan> or grep -i to ignore case
[23:57] <Rhapsody> EriC^^, Intel Gigabit
[23:58] <EriC^^> Rhapsody: go to dash > type drivers
[23:58] <EriC^^> see if it mentions anything about broadcom
[23:58] <digitsm> I ran a tightvnc server on my PC, and I access my pc from my laptop. however it seems that the xfce4 desktop on my PC is not loaded well in tightvnc session
[23:58] <Rhapsody> there is, it says it's using an alternative driver
[23:59] <digitsm> If anyone could help me it would be appreciated
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Rhapsody: Yes, you could (I asked, though I'm leaving for the day soon).