[01:28] <Waffl3x> someone teach me how to kubuntu
[01:28] <Waffl3x> :D
[01:29] <Waffl3x> but for real, its really overwhelming, so many new things
[01:29] <Waffl3x> activities, whatever those are
[01:32] <pinksoviet> Pretty new myself. It's interesting enough :>
[01:33] <Waffl3x> I agree
[01:33] <Waffl3x> its very interesting
[01:33] <Waffl3x> I just wish I could figgure it out
[01:34] <Waffl3x> I feel like it comes with too much
[01:34] <Waffl3x> there are certain things you should have to download yourself, like all the damn widjets it comes with
[01:34] <malc_calc> well, you know about virtual desktops already? Having more than 1 Desktop?
[01:34] <Waffl3x> some of them only specific people would use
[01:34] <Waffl3x> like the binary clock
[01:34] <Waffl3x> malc_calc: negative
[01:35] <pinksoviet> This is my 2nd week testing it out, and the recent Netflix support greatly helped, haha.
[01:36] <Waffl3x> malc_calc: explain virtual desktops please :D
[01:37] <pinksoviet> Press Ctrl+F2
[01:37] <malc_calc> waffl, go to system settings, find 'workspace behaviour'. play with the options there, try help menues, google the rest
[01:37] <pinksoviet> Ctrl+F1 to go back to your first virtual desktop
[01:37] <malc_calc> cannot teach you in 5 min, but that should give you an idea, and you can always set defaults again
[01:40] <Waffl3x> malc_calc: I found it in options earlier, couldnt figgure it out that well
[01:41] <Waffl3x> best I did was set up an action to grid them
[01:41] <Waffl3x> which was cool
[01:41] <Waffl3x> multi taskbars are weird too
[01:41] <malc_calc> the idea is having more than one desktop where you can put your windows, and it's old, old, old. activities is more: an activity is an entirely new SET of desktops (if you use virt. desktops), and other than virtual desktops, an activity can have very different settings from another, i.e. wallpaper, different set of widgets. It's not as big a change as logging in as a different user, but more of a change than changing from one
[01:41] <malc_calc> virtual desktop to another
[01:42] <Waffl3x> so
[01:42] <malc_calc> lookup the terms in wikipedia best
[01:42] <Waffl3x> activities is extended virtual desktops
[01:42] <Waffl3x> no wait
[01:42] <Waffl3x> thats not right is it
[01:43] <Waffl3x> you know what I want to do now
[01:43] <malc_calc> whatever word we put to it, YOU'll have to figure how it works!
[01:43] <Waffl3x> I just had the greatest idea
[01:44] <malc_calc> idea
[01:44] <Waffl3x> im trying to figgure out how complicated it would have to be
[01:44] <Waffl3x> but basically a little device to copy your clipboard to another computer
[01:45] <Waffl3x> Im thinking the best way to do it
[01:45] <Waffl3x> actually that might be over complicated
[01:46] <Waffl3x> do you think you could do it with just a usb key
[01:46] <Waffl3x> obviously this isnt as great as I made it sound :D
[01:46] <malc_calc> a lot of apps to use a mobile device as remote do that. kde connect.
[01:46] <Waffl3x> :O
[01:46] <Waffl3x> how
[01:46] <Waffl3x> so I can
[01:47] <Waffl3x> do they both need to be linux
[01:47] <Waffl3x> yes they do
[01:47] <Waffl3x> dont they
[01:47] <malc_calc> android is half linux, but they don't necessarily need to be the same
[01:47] <Waffl3x> :O
[01:47] <Waffl3x> yes
[01:47] <Waffl3x> this is good
[01:48] <Waffl3x> I want to set this up with my phone
[01:48] <Waffl3x> in fact
[01:48] <Waffl3x> I want to link all my devices in some way
[01:48] <Waffl3x> who knew there was such a big world of computing I was missing
[01:50] <Waffl3x> how do you eneable desktop cube?
[01:51] <malc_calc> u want to check virt. desktops? 1st thing  u do: system settings->workspace behaviour->virtual desktops->desktops->layout->number of desktops-> 4 (or any number you want. don't forget to 'Apply' changes. if u want, go to switching tab and pick desktop effects. apply changes, when u're done, try pulling a window OVER the right or the left edge of the screen. if it works, you'll understand virt.desktops
[01:53] <Waffl3x> I got that
[01:53] <Waffl3x> but
[01:53] <malc_calc> cube: where i just said in switching, but in different context syst.settings>desktop effects
[01:53] <Waffl3x> why is cube greyed out
[01:53] <malc_calc> ooop..
[01:54] <malc_calc> you're sure you already have more than one virt.desktop? forgotten to apply changes?
[01:54] <Waffl3x> yes I do
[01:54] <malc_calc> guessing
[01:54] <Waffl3x> I tryed 4
[01:54] <Waffl3x> and I tryed 6
[01:55] <malc_calc> still there the 4 when you go to same settings page again?
[01:56] <malc_calc> can you drag windows from one desktop to another?
[01:56] <Waffl3x> yes
[01:56] <Waffl3x> I have it set to switch without windows too though
[01:56] <Waffl3x> and that works
[01:57] <malc_calc> so have i, but cube effect greyed out.. o.O ?? have old computer, old graphics card, no compositing effects?
[01:57] <Waffl3x> negative
[01:57] <Waffl3x> its like 2 or 3 years old
[01:58] <Waffl3x> gtx 560 or 550
[01:58] <Waffl3x> amd fx 8350
[01:58] <malc_calc> guessing, or maybe someoner else has better clue, 243 users here..
[02:00] <malc_calc> cannot reproduce your problem, i get no animation, slide, fade, and cube as options for desktop switching effects, none greyed out
[02:00] <Waffl3x> its not desktop switching effect
[02:01] <Waffl3x> I get those
[02:01] <Waffl3x> its the screen edges option
[02:01] <Waffl3x> btw
[02:02] <Waffl3x> is there any way to get the task manager to only show windows that are on the current desktop?
[02:02] <Waffl3x> nevermind :D
[02:02] <Waffl3x> found it
[02:02] <malc_calc> 'cube effect greyed out' you said, that's not screen edges.
[02:02] <Waffl3x> im a little confused, whats the difference between current screen and current desktop...
[02:02] <Waffl3x> oh
[02:02] <Waffl3x> I see
[02:03] <malc_calc> don't think I'm any more wise than you, if I can help, it's luck
[02:04] <Waffl3x> can I get other desktops to have different icons and widgets?
[02:04] <malc_calc> never trtied, but the option is there in the settings
[02:05] <Waffl3x> sweet
[02:06] <malc_calc> the icons on the desktop seems to be funny in KDE anyway, need a folder widget to see some
[02:06] <malc_calc> just put file in home/myname/Desktop doesn't bring it to the desktop
[02:08] <malc_calc> my favorite widget is eyes so far. if i 'get more widgets', half of them tend to crash in one or another way. want to try if KDE is better implemented in OpenSuse
[02:10] <Waffl3x> whats eyes?
[02:10] <Waffl3x> also
[02:10] <malc_calc> kubuntu has official support, but few developpers and much work. on OpenSuse KDE is default
[02:11] <malc_calc> eyes is a widget, a port of an age-old joke forX
[02:11] <Waffl3x> wheres the hotkey setting for desktop grid?
[02:12] <malc_calc> forgot
[02:12] <Waffl3x> :/
[02:12] <malc_calc> there's an extra desktop switcher widget, too
[02:12] <Waffl3x> also you just mentioned it, but why is the desktop so weird in kubuntu
[02:12] <Waffl3x> I can drag stuff on to it to make shortcuts
[02:12] <Waffl3x> but I cant move them after
[02:13] <Waffl3x> and it wont show files in the desktop folder
[02:13] <malc_calc> well, you go to virt.desktop settings againg, all the possible hotkeys are there for you to study, configure or make your own
[02:13] <Waffl3x> desktop grid isnt there
[02:14] <malc_calc> moving things you have to unlock widgets, i think right click on empty space gives the opt
[02:15] <Waffl3x> okay weird
[02:15] <Waffl3x> my icon disapeared
[02:15] <Waffl3x> just now
[02:16] <malc_calc> ghost in the machine :9
[02:16] <malc_calc> :)
[02:16] <Waffl3x> ikr
[02:16] <Waffl3x> so everything on the  desktop counts as a widget?
[02:16] <Waffl3x> also
[02:16] <Waffl3x> widgets arnt locked and I still cant move the icon
[02:17] <malc_calc> hang on, I leave you to play for some time, will look at other things now. if you scream for help every 10 min, you should get attention ....
[02:18] <Waffl3x> im playing at the same time though
[02:18] <Waffl3x> D:
[02:18] <malc_calc> i believe everything counts as widget, and if you approach a unlocked widget with the mouse, a panel pops out with move, resize, remove etc intuitive options
[02:18] <Waffl3x> OH
[02:18] <Waffl3x> THATS HOW YOU MOVE IT
[02:18] <Waffl3x> ty
[02:19] <Waffl3x> are you able to explain why files in desktop dont show up on the desktop?
[02:19] <malc_calc> figure it. there should be a KDE handbook, and CTRL-f brings you a facility to search for a word or term practically everywhere  if text's involved
[02:20] <malc_calc> no, cannot explain. their new concept of what a desktop is, my guess
[02:20] <malc_calc> but bye , maybe back later
[02:20] <Waffl3x> ok
[02:20] <Waffl3x> I wonder why theres a desktop folder then
[02:20] <Waffl3x> :/
[02:21] <Waffl3x> thanks for the help
[04:25] <reuben_> Hello all, Have any of you had problems with mono applications falling back to the fallback mouse cursor?
[05:24] <reuben_> Hello all, Have any of you had problems with mono applications falling back to the fallback mouse cursor? If so what was the solution?
[06:15] <soee> good morning
[06:45] <pinksoviet> mornin
[07:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:27] <Yossarianuk> hi - just seen 14.04 has another libssl update -> 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.7 is this just related to the poodle attack or are there other issues fixed also ?
[08:34] <valorie> !ssl
[08:35] <tsimpson> Yossarianuk: the fixed issues should be listed in the changelog at the bottom of this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/openssl/1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.7
[08:35] <valorie> hmmm, I was sure we had a link to the bulletins about it
[08:35] <Yossarianuk> tsimpson: cheers
[08:36] <Yossarianuk> (I resolved the poodle issue yesterday on all our servers.... Just checking if I now have to qa the new updates...)
[08:38] <tsimpson> you can always use "apt-get changelog <package>" to see what's new in a package, if you need even more details launchpad can show you the changes or you could download and inspect the source ;)
[08:42] <__Shimon__> guys! how to run KUbuntu KDE Plasma 5?
[08:43] <__Shimon__> I've downloaded, but was unable to run it with VirtualBox and boot from a USB stick.
[08:44] <__Shimon__> I understand, that this is beta, but, it should provide something reliable, for example, booting.  =(
[08:49] <lordievader> valorie: Lots of factiods have been removed from ubottu lately.
[08:59] <spinach> morning
[08:59] <lordievader> o/
[08:59] <spinach> \o
[09:01] <spinach> having one hell of a time getting this old epson scanner running. there's a set of binaries to install through the seiko epson website, but only two of the three install and i'm left with software that doesn't recognize the scanner at all.
[09:01] <spinach> (epson perfection 4490/gt-x750)
[09:03] <spinach> the last binary, when i go to install it, the option to do so is just grayed out in qapt.
[09:48] <spinach> after adding my scanner's id info to epkowa.conf and epson.conf and epson2.conf and then adding saned to the scanner group the scanner now occasionally whirs but still does not open
[10:47] <azaki> This may be a stupid question, but if I install Kubuntu with Plasma 5 on a machine now, will it properly upgrade without issues when Plasma 5 becomes the default/stable/etc? or will I have to reinstall?
[10:47] <azaki> I'd like to use Plasma 5 soon without having to wait for it, I noticed that recently Kubuntu started offering it as a "preview", which is why I ask.
[11:36] <benvantende> hey people, i just updated (latest 14.10) to plasma 5.1, which is all awesome. my desktop becomes unresponsive however at a certain point. mouse moves but i cannot do a thing. what could be a likely cause? windows decorations?
[11:57] <Walex> benvantende: it could be very many things indeed and it happens with KDE 4 too.
[11:58] <Walex> benvantende: in one case it was a JavaScript script inside Firefox running at 100% CPU, so there
[11:58] <benvantende> thanks for responding ...
[11:59] <benvantende> i run fine for 30 minutes now. that is cool ;)
[11:59] <Walex> benvantende: if you can SSH in you can look at 'top' and 'iostat -dkxz 1' to see what's going oin
[11:59] <benvantende> walwx: it does not seem due to 100% cpu somewhere
[12:00] <benvantende> i have top running mostly, but when the desktop freezes there is not much you can do is there?
[12:00] <Walex> it could be graphics CPU driver too, e.g. the intel one often gets into trouble with pipeline stalls
[12:01] <Walex> benvantende: "when the desktop freezes there is not much you can do" that's why I mentioned having an SSH session in
[12:01] <benvantende> right
[12:53] <MoonUnit`> still no 14.10 RC then
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:43] <pkulas> Hey, where can I get logs from plasma5? Many times plasma5 freeze for few seconds.
[15:50] <skinux> What is the most recommended command to perform packages upgrade?
[15:53] <Snowhog> skinux: "I" use sudo apt-get update first, followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:53] <skinux> Okay.
[16:28] <pkulas> dolphin crash so many times :(
[16:33] <andy123> dolphin crash :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lyDspzxSrw
[16:35] <pkulas> :D
[16:38] <libreSSL> "D
[16:38] <libreSSL> *:D
[17:38] <rivo> hi
[17:44] <geoextra> Hey, will Kubuntu 14.10 shipped with Plasma 5 by default?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> geoextra, no, not yet, it's not ready for a full launch. There are still a lot of bugs to work out. on kf5 and plsama 5 desktop
[17:47] <BluesKaj> I used it for a while but got frustrated so I reinstalled plasma 4
[17:47] <geoextra> Okay, thank you :)
[17:48] <BluesKaj> personally I didn't care for the "looks" available
[17:49] <marc___> Hello
[17:50] <marc___> Is it possible to dump an image of Kubuntu into a SSHD so I can boot from that?
[18:18] <marc___> Sorry mi internet connection went down. I was asking if it is possible to dump a Kubuntu image to a SSHD so I can boot from it later on?
[18:19] <lordievader> marc___: If you mean SSD.. perhaps but it won't be pretty or good for performance. (I assume here that you mean with 'dump' extract.)
[18:20] <marc___> I mean solid state hard disk. Why it won't be good for performace? Kubuntu doesn't fully support this kind of disks?
[18:20] <lordievader> marc___: The live-cd uses a squashfs...
[18:21] <marc___> I want to extract the image but in a way that the disk is a boot disk and I am not sure how the do it so it boots later
[18:21] <marc___> that is the problem... I can't use a livecd
[18:21] <lordievader> marc___: Why not?
[18:22] <marc___> It is quite complex: I have 2 computers, one of them is this one, where I am running XP as I need to use a soft that only works with Windowz
[18:22] <marc___> I want to install Kubuntu in the 2nd PC
[18:23] <lordievader> I fail to see the problem.
[18:23] <marc___> but both are notebooks and the 2nd PC doesn't have anywhere to put the SSD but where the CD unit goes (using an adaptor)
[18:23] <lordievader> marc___: Use a live-usb.
[18:23] <marc___> that 2nd PC also cannot boot from USB or external DVD from BIOS
[18:23] <genii> The image is a hybrid image, you can just dd it to something like a USB stick or even a hard drive, and it still works.
[18:24] <marc___> so my idea is to download the image with this 1st PC (running XP), while I have the SSD as secondary, extract it to that disk
[18:24] <marc___> but this is the part I don't know: How can I extract it to make sure that when I remove this SSD and I put it as primary on the 2nd PC it will boot?
[18:25] <lordievader> marc___: Why not use the XP machine to install it to that disk and after swap the disk back to the original machine.
[18:25] <marc___> the XP machine has a primary disk which I don't want to remove as the connector was failing, but I can still put the SSD as secondary disk
[18:27] <marc___> What soft do you recommend me to use to extract the image while in XP?
[18:28] <lordievader> marc___: As I said, I'd put the SSD in the XP machine, boot up using a live-usb and installing Kubuntu on the SSD. And afterwards putting it back in the original machine.
[18:28] <marc___> I can't do that as this PC doesn't support USB boot
[18:28] <lordievader> Live-dvd then ;)
[18:29] <marc___> I can't as the DVD unit goes where the SSD is located
[18:29] <marc___> I still have external DVD but I cannot boot from that
[18:29] <genii> You should just get dd for windows off of http://www.chrysocome.net/downloads/dd-0.6beta3.zip and then dd the image file to the SSD
[18:31] <marc___> I am reading about DD it looks very complex
[18:31] <genii> It's not.
[18:32] <lordievader> It can be a dangerous tool though, if poorly understood.
[18:32] <genii> In linux the command would be like: sudo dd if=imagefile.img of=/dev/sdX      ...for instance where X is drive letter
[18:34] <genii> marc___: In Windows the command would be similar to:   dd if-c:\temp\iso-filename.iso od=d:    ( if SSD is drive D: )
[18:36] <marc___> and that will write to the SSD to then I can boot from it? Is not necessary to format the SSD first? (It is currently NTFS)
[18:41] <marc___> genii: did you see my question at 34 past?
[18:41] <genii> marc___: Not necessary to format it.
[18:42] <genii> The dd command will directly overwrite whatevers on it
[18:43] <marc___> ok I will try, many thanks, I'll let you know, however it may take time as I need to do a backup of the SSD and under XP it is ultra-slow
[19:50] <David1965> has anyone noticed that BASH has a problem called shell-shock and needs to be patched and made available pronto otherwise the hackers will have a field day taking down the whole Internet
[19:51] <lordievader> David1965: That has been patched for months ;)
[19:52] <lordievader> David1965: Just run 'sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[19:52] <David1965> no I tried the test to check for this problem and it says that the bash installed on my machine is vonerable
[19:52] <EvilRoey> lordievader:  heh
[19:52] <EvilRoey> hey all
[19:52] <lordievader> David1965: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[19:52] <lordievader> Hey EvilRoey.
[19:53] <David1965> not running kbubunu but Linux Mint 17 64bit Qiana
[19:53] <lordievader> David1965: Linux Mint is not supported here, please see #linuxmint for that.
[21:43] <elw0od> hi all
[22:09] <detached09> Anyone around that can help me out right quick?
[22:10] <elw0od> detached09: assk
[22:10] <detached09> I have my Windows partition on /dev/sda5. I need to mount C:\Users\me\Downloads to /home/downloads. I had it set up previously, but I don't remember what I did.
[22:11] <detached09> and when I reinstalled, I didn't think to backup /etc/fstab first.
[22:12] <detached09> I remember it had something to do with using the UUID, which I have, but I don't remember the exact line I need to enter and Google isn't helping like it did last time.
[22:16] <elw0od> detached09: use gparted to see which one has a windows filesystem
[22:16] <elw0od> without changing anything
[22:16] <detached09> It's /dev/sda5.
[22:17] <detached09> The whole drive automounts under /media/me/UUID/ but previously I had Downloads mapped to /home/downloads where all my programs download stuff.
[22:21] <elw0od> detached09: so you need to re-set the mounting point?
[22:22] <detached09> yeah
[22:22] <elw0od> blkid /dev/sda5
[22:23] <elw0od> or simply blkid to see them all
[22:23] <detached09>  /dev/sda5: UUID="1AECB266ECB23BB7" TYPE="ntfs"
[22:24] <elw0od> so, in fstab search for this uuid and set your desired mounting point
[22:25] <detached09> I don't want to mount the whole drive there though. Which is where I'm running into the problem.
[22:27] <detached09> I'm just trying to mount the Windows downloads folder in /home/downloads. The rest of it can stay in /media/me/UUID/