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akiva-thinkpadaye; that flickable is a beast to wrestle with. I think I got it to a nice state though, with no bugs as I can see. Unfortunately Memory folders will have to wait.02:21
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dholbachgood morning05:27
mihirpopey: did you see the screenshot i gave of Dash with no icons , did you face that too ?07:13
popeymihir: yes, a bug has been filed. pull down to refresh as a workaround for now07:17
mihirpopey: okay  , just wanted to know from where can i file a bug , and why we have two calculators :-o07:17
mihirpopey: btw it's anniversary for calendar :D07:21
popeymihir: two calculators?07:29
popeymihir: happy birthday! :D07:30
justCarakasmihir: do you mean the calculator of akiva ?07:30
nik90dpm: Hi, Good Morning :-), Is https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-clock-app/i18n-module/+merge/238213 ready to be merged? I see it has been approved by downey07:31
nik90Good morning folks07:31
mihirjustCarakas: i am not sure , on latest image i saw two calculators , http://i.imgur.com/fGPuuA8.png07:31
mihirnik90: morning :)07:31
popeyi suspect thats a bug07:31
dpmhi nik90, good morning. It's not yet. I need to apply the fixes dobey suggested07:31
nik90dpm: ack, when you think it is ready, feel free to top-approve.07:32
dpmack07:32
mihirjustCarakas: i am not sure why it shows like this.07:33
justCarakasmihir: that's not the akiva calculator, so it must be a bug (smash it before it spreads)07:38
popeymihir: what image is that you're running?07:38
mihirpopey: r9307:38
mihirpopey: just upgraded last night.07:38
popeywhat does "click list | grep calculator" say?07:39
popeydon't update to 94 or beyond, its broken07:39
mihirpopey:  it shows native one07:42
mihircom.ubuntu.calculator 1.3.33407:43
mihirpopey: there are basically two applications like this , one is calculator, converter07:43
popeyyes, i saw from your screenshot. interesting07:45
mihiryou having 93 only ?07:46
popeydunno where those icons come from07:46
popeycurrent build number: 9307:46
popeychannel: ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed07:46
popeyi dont see either of those07:47
seb128popey, mihir: did you install the ui toolkit autopilots?07:47
seb128they include a calculator07:47
mihirseb128: i haven't installed anything myself , but i can see UI Toolkit07:47
popeyno07:47
popeybrb07:47
seb128mihir, weird07:48
mihirseb128: that is also there without any icon :|07:48
popeyi thought it might be a scope or something which is showing up incorrectly07:59
mihirhmm may be, i'll try to remove from cache08:01
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Mulligan Day! :-D08:46
brendandJamesTait, Mulligan. give me a new day09:04
JamesTaitbrendand, happy Spreadsheet Day! :)09:07
brendandoh no - that's worse!09:07
brendandi guess that's what mulligans are about though09:07
JamesTaitWear Something Gaudy Day?09:08
vitimitiHi09:10
JamesTaitvitimiti, o/09:11
vitimiti\o09:11
justCarakasJamesTait: brendand, In my country (belgium) today is youth movement day09:15
JamesTaitjustCarakas, where are the youth moving to?09:15
justCarakasJamesTait: hehe :p scouts and stuff09:17
justCarakasbut since today is a schoolday they probably all moved to school today :p09:18
JamesTaitI used to be in the Scouts.09:19
brendandpopey, repeat is broken in the music app. is that known?09:39
brendandpopey, shuffle seems to work fine09:39
popeybrendand: news to me. please file a bug.09:51
dpmpopey, I noticed Filippo's tabs addition MP for Terminal. It looks like a big diff - do we have someone who could help him with a review? It'd be really cool to get that landed10:26
mihirJamesTait: heya10:45
JamesTaitHi mihir!10:45
JamesTaitDid I comment on the wrong bug?10:46
mihirJamesTait: nope , i guess..but need more info.10:46
JamesTaitFire away!10:46
mihirJamesTait: on what image and calendar version are you ?10:46
* JamesTait checks10:46
JamesTaitmihir, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8578496/10:49
JamesTaitmihir, I think the original problem was that I was getting reminders, even though it said "No reminder set".  But that's fixed. \o/10:50
JamesTaitIt's just this timezone oddness now.10:50
mihirJamesTait: yes , previously No Reminder === "Remind me on Event"10:50
mihirJamesTait: now that is fixed and update must be there in store.10:51
mihirJamesTait: can you check the update of Calendar in store ?10:51
JamesTaitI don't see an update in the store.10:52
JamesTait"Software is up to date"10:52
JamesTait0.4.502 is what I see in https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/package/com.ubuntu.calendar10:54
mihirJamesTait: i'll look into this, the No Reminder issue must have been resolved , so if you see in reminder10:54
mihiryou'll get this options , No Reminder, On Event Time10:54
JamesTaitmihir, yes, that's resolved, thanks. :)10:54
mihiri'll look into timezone issues.10:55
JamesTaitmihir, although I think it defaults to "On event"? So I thought it was still present until I went back and checked, then realised I *had* set a reminder.10:55
mihirJamesTait: hmm yup , so if you say now No Reminder , it won't set any reminder.10:56
JamesTaitYeah, that worked after I realised my mistake and corrected it. :)10:56
mihir\m/10:56
JamesTaitI couldn't have put it better. ;)10:57
mihirso JamesTait still the timezone issue is happening right?10:57
mihirpopey: hit me hard (Lol) by mistake i hit Update and now it is stuck at Boot Logo , how can i downgrade ?? :(10:57
JamesTaitYes, the timezone issue does still seem to be a problem.10:57
JamesTaitIt seems like the reminder is stored in UTC, but triggered according to local time.10:57
mihirJamesTait: i believe you are storing events on your Google Calenadr correct?10:58
JamesTaitOne day, everyone will just use UTC allt he time, and the world will be a happier place.10:58
mihirJamesTait: exactly :D10:58
JamesTaitmihir, this one was in the local ("Personal", IIRC) calendar.10:58
mihirHmmm okay. I'll try to reproduce and will let you know10:59
JamesTaitI don't think I've tried it with Google calendars yet.10:59
mihirJamesTait: would you mind if you can create another bug for this ?? as this is misguiding :P10:59
mihirJamesTait: my device is stuck at ubuntu Logo :( do you know how can i downgrade?11:00
JamesTaitActually, I *must* have tried it with Google calendars. I have *dozens" of events sync'd with Google.11:00
JamesTaitmihir, IIRC, the advice was to "hold down power and volup/voldown, to get to bootloader, select recovery from the menu, then use phablet-device-flash"11:01
JamesTaitmihir, I'll raise a separate bug for the tz issue.11:01
mihirJamesTait: thank you. as this is already fix, i'll attach this bug to related MP11:03
JamesTaitPerfect. :)11:03
JamesTaitmihir, bug #138251611:17
ubot5bug 1382516 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Event reminders stored in UTC but triggered in local timezone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138251611:17
mihirJamesTait: awesome thank you.11:17
JamesTaitNo problem. Let me know if you need more details. :)11:17
mihirMirv: ping11:24
mihirMirv: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-021/+build/6463878 downgrading with this package will allow me to boot into 94 mako ?11:25
Mirvmihir: pong11:30
Mirvmihir: the client2, common2 and media-hub packages, yes. if you adb them to /home/phablet, adb shell in and do dpkg -i *.deb (assuming no other debs in the directory), it will work after reboot11:30
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Mirvand sudo needs to be used, plus developer mode enabled to be able to use sudo with the PIN code11:33
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mihirMirv: thanks , it worked for me.12:24
mihirMirv: i am not sure but , revision took me back to 87 no idea how.12:25
mihirI am non ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed-customized12:27
Mirvmihir: eh, weird. I'm on ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/devel-proposed12:33
mihirMirv: Hmm okay , i will need to flash i'll do that afterwards then :P12:34
nik90woop woop..you can now use any of the words shown in https://imgur.com/gOli2CK to highlight me :)12:44
popeyhah12:44
popeynik90: do we need to push a click yet (gonna go afk soon)12:44
popeya clock click clock click...12:44
nik90popey: unfortunately my MPs have not been reviewed yet12:45
nik90popey: we will do it on monday12:45
popeyah. okay.12:45
mihirnik90: curious to ask , what kind of setting page is this ?13:10
nik90mihir: its from my irc bouncer that I use to stay online13:20
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rpadovanimihir, I'm pretty sure it's about his bouncer, https://www.irccloud.com/13:55
nargposey14:25
nargwassup?14:28
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mihirnik90: ahahhaha got it :D14:58
vitimitiHi16:10
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akiva-thinkpadhi all17:47
akiva-thinkpadahoneybun, how goes app development?17:53
danielbehello! I wanted to ask if a release-date for the ubuntu-touch RTM already exists.18:55
ahoneybundanielbe, there are already images for the RTM19:46
danielbeahoneybun:: are these images the "final" images?  I thought it was some kind of "branch".20:02
DanChapmandanielbe: AFAIK there hasn't been a release date set yet for the final golden image. Just "Later this year".20:16
danielbehey DanChapman  :-)20:16
danielbeWill the ubuntu touch devices will regularly got updates?20:18
akiva-thinkpaddanielbe, good question. It depends20:18
akiva-thinkpaddanielbe, there is basically a do it yourself mode, where you can utilize updates on the fly20:19
akiva-thinkpador there is a ubuntu release20:19
akiva-thinkpaderm20:19
akiva-thinkpadI am not a hundred percent on the details. Let me check reddit.20:19
danielbeI'm interested in the response because I would like to know if after the RTM, I would have to target several ubuntu touch release.20:20
danielbeLike 14.10 and 15.04 and so on...20:20
akiva-thinkpaddanielbe, the official way is just to have periodic updates afaik20:21
akiva-thinkpaddanielbe, to that though, I don't know enough details as to how phone manufacturers will handle the updates.20:22
akiva-thinkpaddanielbe, definitely a good question for askubuntu.20:23
akiva-thinkpadlet me know if you ask, and I'll upvote it. I'm interested in the answer as well.20:23
DanChapmandanielbe: i think it's done by targeting click frameworks and not "release" as such. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Click/Frameworks20:23
akiva-thinkpadtil :)20:24
danielbeDanChapman: That's what I was searching :-)20:24
DanChapman:-)20:25
danielbeDanChapman: I read somewhere that you wanted to release dekko 0.4 soon.20:26
danielbeWhen would that be? I wanted to fix two bugs, but I first wanted to finish another project before.20:27
DanChapmandanielbe: 0.3 yeah i'm pushing to get that out over this weekend. Sunday latest... anything not done i'll bump to 0.4 but there's only a few left, so i'm not too bothered if a couple don't get in.20:29
danielbeOK:-)20:30
DanChapmando you want me to retarget the progress bar bug to 0.4? and i'll just disable the LoadingOverlay for now?20:30
nik90DanChapman: hey, would it be possible to distinguish between read and unread emails more prominently by showing unread email titles in bold perhaps?20:36
nik90DanChapman: at the moment, they defer only by the listitem color, which is not that effective IMO.20:36
DanChapmannik90: hey there :-) bug 1378293 would be great to get your thoughts20:37
ubot5bug 1378293 in dekko "Darker background of read messages actually suggests they're highlighted - unread" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137829320:37
nik90DanChapman: ooh I like number #2 in the dropbox link.20:39
nik90;)20:39
DanChapmannik90:  INBOX__007?20:39
nik90DanChapman: INBOX_00620:39
nik90DanChapman: although tbh, I like both and cannot make up my mind :D20:39
nik90actually INBOX_00620:40
nik90because in that screenshot, my eyes immidiately fall on the listitem with a darker background which are the unread emails20:41
DanChapmannik90: right so either way "read" messages should have no background /use page background. I'm tron between lighter or darker for un-read. danielbe prefers the lighter so it's still undecided :-D20:41
DanChapmans/tron/torn20:41
nik90hehe..maybe use a G+ in the app dev community to resolve it?20:42
DanChapmanohh yeah!! i totally forgot to do that. danielbe suggested that aswell :-D20:43
* DanChapman heads off over to g+20:43
danielbe:-)20:44
nik90:)20:44
DanChapmannik90: one more thing. do you think the timestamp should be a heavier weight aswell for un-read20:44
danielbeFor me, darker items means "the items are disabled".20:44
nik90DanChapman: I mostly am used to the Gmail app where they don't use a heavier weight for the timestamp. But this is a minor detail that I leave to your discretion.20:46
danielbeDanChapman: nik90 My wife also prefers the darker one. INBOX_00621:04
danielbeSo, I guess I'm really outnumbered :-)21:04
DanChapmandanielbe: well... the dark background it is then :-D21:11
danielbe:-)21:15
kurt_akiva-thinkpad!!!!21:18
kurt_my internet has been out for awhile21:20
akiva-thinkpadbah21:35
akiva-thinkpaddidnt respond in time :P21:35
akiva-thinkpadsomeone give him my regards if he comes back.21:36
akiva-thinkpad\o/ Memory successfully implimented :)21:39
akiva-thinkpadout for a bit ; later21:43
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akiva-thinkpad!ping23:26
ubot5pong!23:26

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