[02:21] <akiva-thinkpad> aye; that flickable is a beast to wrestle with. I think I got it to a nice state though, with no bugs as I can see. Unfortunately Memory folders will have to wait.
[05:27] <dholbach> good morning
[07:13] <mihir> popey: did you see the screenshot i gave of Dash with no icons , did you face that too ?
[07:17] <popey> mihir: yes, a bug has been filed. pull down to refresh as a workaround for now
[07:17] <mihir> popey: okay  , just wanted to know from where can i file a bug , and why we have two calculators :-o
[07:21] <mihir> popey: btw it's anniversary for calendar :D
[07:29] <popey> mihir: two calculators?
[07:30] <popey> mihir: happy birthday! :D
[07:30] <justCarakas> mihir: do you mean the calculator of akiva ?
[07:31] <nik90> dpm: Hi, Good Morning :-), Is https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-clock-app/i18n-module/+merge/238213 ready to be merged? I see it has been approved by downey
[07:31] <nik90> Good morning folks
[07:31] <mihir> justCarakas: i am not sure , on latest image i saw two calculators , http://i.imgur.com/fGPuuA8.png
[07:31] <mihir> nik90: morning :)
[07:31] <popey> i suspect thats a bug
[07:31] <dpm> hi nik90, good morning. It's not yet. I need to apply the fixes dobey suggested
[07:32] <nik90> dpm: ack, when you think it is ready, feel free to top-approve.
[07:32] <dpm> ack
[07:33] <mihir> justCarakas: i am not sure why it shows like this.
[07:38] <justCarakas> mihir: that's not the akiva calculator, so it must be a bug (smash it before it spreads)
[07:38] <popey> mihir: what image is that you're running?
[07:38] <mihir> popey: r93
[07:38] <mihir> popey: just upgraded last night.
[07:39] <popey> what does "click list | grep calculator" say?
[07:39] <popey> don't update to 94 or beyond, its broken
[07:42] <mihir> popey:  it shows native one
[07:43] <mihir> com.ubuntu.calculator 1.3.334
[07:43] <mihir> popey: there are basically two applications like this , one is calculator, converter
[07:45] <popey> yes, i saw from your screenshot. interesting
[07:46] <mihir> you having 93 only ?
[07:46] <popey> dunno where those icons come from
[07:46] <popey> current build number: 93
[07:46] <popey> channel: ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed
[07:47] <popey> i dont see either of those
[07:47] <seb128> popey, mihir: did you install the ui toolkit autopilots?
[07:47] <seb128> they include a calculator
[07:47] <mihir> seb128: i haven't installed anything myself , but i can see UI Toolkit
[07:47] <popey> no
[07:47] <popey> brb
[07:48] <seb128> mihir, weird
[07:48] <mihir> seb128: that is also there without any icon :|
[07:59] <popey> i thought it might be a scope or something which is showing up incorrectly
[08:01] <mihir> hmm may be, i'll try to remove from cache
[08:46] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Mulligan Day! :-D
[09:04] <brendand> JamesTait, Mulligan. give me a new day
[09:07] <JamesTait> brendand, happy Spreadsheet Day! :)
[09:07] <brendand> oh no - that's worse!
[09:07] <brendand> i guess that's what mulligans are about though
[09:08] <JamesTait> Wear Something Gaudy Day?
[09:10] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:11] <JamesTait> vitimiti, o/
[09:11] <vitimiti> \o
[09:15] <justCarakas> JamesTait: brendand, In my country (belgium) today is youth movement day
[09:15] <JamesTait> justCarakas, where are the youth moving to?
[09:17] <justCarakas> JamesTait: hehe :p scouts and stuff
[09:18] <justCarakas> but since today is a schoolday they probably all moved to school today :p
[09:19] <JamesTait> I used to be in the Scouts.
[09:39] <brendand> popey, repeat is broken in the music app. is that known?
[09:39] <brendand> popey, shuffle seems to work fine
[09:51] <popey> brendand: news to me. please file a bug.
[10:26] <dpm> popey, I noticed Filippo's tabs addition MP for Terminal. It looks like a big diff - do we have someone who could help him with a review? It'd be really cool to get that landed
[10:45] <mihir> JamesTait: heya
[10:45] <JamesTait> Hi mihir!
[10:46] <JamesTait> Did I comment on the wrong bug?
[10:46] <mihir> JamesTait: nope , i guess..but need more info.
[10:46] <JamesTait> Fire away!
[10:46] <mihir> JamesTait: on what image and calendar version are you ?
[10:46]  * JamesTait checks
[10:49] <JamesTait> mihir, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8578496/
[10:50] <JamesTait> mihir, I think the original problem was that I was getting reminders, even though it said "No reminder set".  But that's fixed. \o/
[10:50] <JamesTait> It's just this timezone oddness now.
[10:50] <mihir> JamesTait: yes , previously No Reminder [10:51] <mihir> JamesTait: now that is fixed and update must be there in store.
[10:51] <mihir> JamesTait: can you check the update of Calendar in store ?
[10:52] <JamesTait> I don't see an update in the store.
[10:52] <JamesTait> "Software is up to date"
[10:54] <JamesTait> 0.4.502 is what I see in https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/package/com.ubuntu.calendar
[10:54] <mihir> JamesTait: i'll look into this, the No Reminder issue must have been resolved , so if you see in reminder
[10:54] <mihir> you'll get this options , No Reminder, On Event Time
[10:54] <JamesTait> mihir, yes, that's resolved, thanks. :)
[10:55] <mihir> i'll look into timezone issues.
[10:55] <JamesTait> mihir, although I think it defaults to "On event"? So I thought it was still present until I went back and checked, then realised I *had* set a reminder.
[10:56] <mihir> JamesTait: hmm yup , so if you say now No Reminder , it won't set any reminder.
[10:56] <JamesTait> Yeah, that worked after I realised my mistake and corrected it. :)
[10:56] <mihir> \m/
[10:57] <JamesTait> I couldn't have put it better. ;)
[10:57] <mihir> so JamesTait still the timezone issue is happening right?
[10:57] <mihir> popey: hit me hard (Lol) by mistake i hit Update and now it is stuck at Boot Logo , how can i downgrade ?? :(
[10:57] <JamesTait> Yes, the timezone issue does still seem to be a problem.
[10:57] <JamesTait> It seems like the reminder is stored in UTC, but triggered according to local time.
[10:58] <mihir> JamesTait: i believe you are storing events on your Google Calenadr correct?
[10:58] <JamesTait> One day, everyone will just use UTC allt he time, and the world will be a happier place.
[10:58] <mihir> JamesTait: exactly :D
[10:58] <JamesTait> mihir, this one was in the local ("Personal", IIRC) calendar.
[10:59] <mihir> Hmmm okay. I'll try to reproduce and will let you know
[10:59] <JamesTait> I don't think I've tried it with Google calendars yet.
[10:59] <mihir> JamesTait: would you mind if you can create another bug for this ?? as this is misguiding :P
[11:00] <mihir> JamesTait: my device is stuck at ubuntu Logo :( do you know how can i downgrade?
[11:00] <JamesTait> Actually, I *must* have tried it with Google calendars. I have *dozens" of events sync'd with Google.
[11:01] <JamesTait> mihir, IIRC, the advice was to "hold down power and volup/voldown, to get to bootloader, select recovery from the menu, then use phablet-device-flash"
[11:01] <JamesTait> mihir, I'll raise a separate bug for the tz issue.
[11:03] <mihir> JamesTait: thank you. as this is already fix, i'll attach this bug to related MP
[11:03] <JamesTait> Perfect. :)
[11:17] <JamesTait> mihir, bug #1382516
[11:17] <mihir> JamesTait: awesome thank you.
[11:17] <JamesTait> No problem. Let me know if you need more details. :)
[11:24] <mihir> Mirv: ping
[11:25] <mihir> Mirv: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-021/+build/6463878 downgrading with this package will allow me to boot into 94 mako ?
[11:30] <Mirv> mihir: pong
[11:30] <Mirv> mihir: the client2, common2 and media-hub packages, yes. if you adb them to /home/phablet, adb shell in and do dpkg -i *.deb (assuming no other debs in the directory), it will work after reboot
[11:33] <Mirv> and sudo needs to be used, plus developer mode enabled to be able to use sudo with the PIN code
[12:24] <mihir> Mirv: thanks , it worked for me.
[12:25] <mihir> Mirv: i am not sure but , revision took me back to 87 no idea how.
[12:27] <mihir> I am non ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed-customized
[12:33] <Mirv> mihir: eh, weird. I'm on ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/devel-proposed
[12:34] <mihir> Mirv: Hmm okay , i will need to flash i'll do that afterwards then :P
[12:44] <nik90> woop woop..you can now use any of the words shown in https://imgur.com/gOli2CK to highlight me :)
[12:44] <popey> hah
[12:44] <popey> nik90: do we need to push a click yet (gonna go afk soon)
[12:44] <popey> a clock click clock click...
[12:45] <nik90> popey: unfortunately my MPs have not been reviewed yet
[12:45] <nik90> popey: we will do it on monday
[12:45] <popey> ah. okay.
[13:10] <mihir> nik90: curious to ask , what kind of setting page is this ?
[13:20] <nik90> mihir: its from my irc bouncer that I use to stay online
[13:55] <rpadovani> mihir, I'm pretty sure it's about his bouncer, https://www.irccloud.com/
[14:25] <narg> posey
[14:28] <narg> wassup?
[14:58] <mihir> nik90: ahahhaha got it :D
[16:10] <vitimiti> Hi
[17:47] <akiva-thinkpad> hi all
[17:53] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun, how goes app development?
[18:55] <danielbe> hello! I wanted to ask if a release-date for the ubuntu-touch RTM already exists.
[19:46] <ahoneybun> danielbe, there are already images for the RTM
[20:02] <danielbe> ahoneybun:: are these images the "final" images?  I thought it was some kind of "branch".
[20:16] <DanChapman> danielbe: AFAIK there hasn't been a release date set yet for the final golden image. Just "Later this year".
[20:16] <danielbe> hey DanChapman  :-)
[20:18] <danielbe> Will the ubuntu touch devices will regularly got updates?
[20:18] <akiva-thinkpad> danielbe, good question. It depends
[20:19] <akiva-thinkpad> danielbe, there is basically a do it yourself mode, where you can utilize updates on the fly
[20:19] <akiva-thinkpad> or there is a ubuntu release
[20:19] <akiva-thinkpad> erm
[20:19] <akiva-thinkpad> I am not a hundred percent on the details. Let me check reddit.
[20:20] <danielbe> I'm interested in the response because I would like to know if after the RTM, I would have to target several ubuntu touch release.
[20:20] <danielbe> Like 14.10 and 15.04 and so on...
[20:21] <akiva-thinkpad> danielbe, the official way is just to have periodic updates afaik
[20:22] <akiva-thinkpad> danielbe, to that though, I don't know enough details as to how phone manufacturers will handle the updates.
[20:23] <akiva-thinkpad> danielbe, definitely a good question for askubuntu.
[20:23] <akiva-thinkpad> let me know if you ask, and I'll upvote it. I'm interested in the answer as well.
[20:23] <DanChapman> danielbe: i think it's done by targeting click frameworks and not "release" as such. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Click/Frameworks
[20:24] <akiva-thinkpad> til :)
[20:24] <danielbe> DanChapman: That's what I was searching :-)
[20:25] <DanChapman> :-)
[20:26] <danielbe> DanChapman: I read somewhere that you wanted to release dekko 0.4 soon.
[20:27] <danielbe> When would that be? I wanted to fix two bugs, but I first wanted to finish another project before.
[20:29] <DanChapman> danielbe: 0.3 yeah i'm pushing to get that out over this weekend. Sunday latest... anything not done i'll bump to 0.4 but there's only a few left, so i'm not too bothered if a couple don't get in.
[20:30] <danielbe> OK:-)
[20:30] <DanChapman> do you want me to retarget the progress bar bug to 0.4? and i'll just disable the LoadingOverlay for now?
[20:36] <nik90> DanChapman: hey, would it be possible to distinguish between read and unread emails more prominently by showing unread email titles in bold perhaps?
[20:36] <nik90> DanChapman: at the moment, they defer only by the listitem color, which is not that effective IMO.
[20:37] <DanChapman> nik90: hey there :-) bug 1378293 would be great to get your thoughts
[20:39] <nik90> DanChapman: ooh I like number #2 in the dropbox link.
[20:39] <nik90> ;)
[20:39] <DanChapman> nik90:  INBOX__007?
[20:39] <nik90> DanChapman: INBOX_006
[20:39] <nik90> DanChapman: although tbh, I like both and cannot make up my mind :D
[20:40] <nik90> actually INBOX_006
[20:41] <nik90> because in that screenshot, my eyes immidiately fall on the listitem with a darker background which are the unread emails
[20:41] <DanChapman> nik90: right so either way "read" messages should have no background /use page background. I'm tron between lighter or darker for un-read. danielbe prefers the lighter so it's still undecided :-D
[20:41] <DanChapman> s/tron/torn
[20:42] <nik90> hehe..maybe use a G+ in the app dev community to resolve it?
[20:43] <DanChapman> ohh yeah!! i totally forgot to do that. danielbe suggested that aswell :-D
[20:43]  * DanChapman heads off over to g+
[20:44] <danielbe> :-)
[20:44] <nik90> :)
[20:44] <DanChapman> nik90: one more thing. do you think the timestamp should be a heavier weight aswell for un-read
[20:44] <danielbe> For me, darker items means "the items are disabled".
[20:46] <nik90> DanChapman: I mostly am used to the Gmail app where they don't use a heavier weight for the timestamp. But this is a minor detail that I leave to your discretion.
[21:04] <danielbe> DanChapman: nik90 My wife also prefers the darker one. INBOX_006
[21:04] <danielbe> So, I guess I'm really outnumbered :-)
[21:11] <DanChapman> danielbe: well... the dark background it is then :-D
[21:15] <danielbe> :-)
[21:18] <kurt_> akiva-thinkpad!!!!
[21:20] <kurt_> my internet has been out for awhile
[21:35] <akiva-thinkpad> bah
[21:35] <akiva-thinkpad> didnt respond in time :P
[21:36] <akiva-thinkpad> someone give him my regards if he comes back.
[21:39] <akiva-thinkpad> \o/ Memory successfully implimented :)
[21:43] <akiva-thinkpad> out for a bit ; later
[23:26] <akiva-thinkpad> !ping