[02:21] aye; that flickable is a beast to wrestle with. I think I got it to a nice state though, with no bugs as I can see. Unfortunately Memory folders will have to wait. === salem_ is now known as _salem [05:27] good morning [07:13] popey: did you see the screenshot i gave of Dash with no icons , did you face that too ? [07:17] mihir: yes, a bug has been filed. pull down to refresh as a workaround for now [07:17] popey: okay , just wanted to know from where can i file a bug , and why we have two calculators :-o [07:21] popey: btw it's anniversary for calendar :D [07:29] mihir: two calculators? [07:30] mihir: happy birthday! :D [07:30] mihir: do you mean the calculator of akiva ? [07:31] dpm: Hi, Good Morning :-), Is https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-clock-app/i18n-module/+merge/238213 ready to be merged? I see it has been approved by downey [07:31] Good morning folks [07:31] justCarakas: i am not sure , on latest image i saw two calculators , http://i.imgur.com/fGPuuA8.png [07:31] nik90: morning :) [07:31] i suspect thats a bug [07:31] hi nik90, good morning. It's not yet. I need to apply the fixes dobey suggested [07:32] dpm: ack, when you think it is ready, feel free to top-approve. [07:32] ack [07:33] justCarakas: i am not sure why it shows like this. [07:38] mihir: that's not the akiva calculator, so it must be a bug (smash it before it spreads) [07:38] mihir: what image is that you're running? [07:38] popey: r93 [07:38] popey: just upgraded last night. [07:39] what does "click list | grep calculator" say? [07:39] don't update to 94 or beyond, its broken [07:42] popey: it shows native one [07:43] com.ubuntu.calculator 1.3.334 [07:43] popey: there are basically two applications like this , one is calculator, converter [07:45] yes, i saw from your screenshot. interesting [07:46] you having 93 only ? [07:46] dunno where those icons come from [07:46] current build number: 93 [07:46] channel: ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed [07:47] i dont see either of those [07:47] popey, mihir: did you install the ui toolkit autopilots? [07:47] they include a calculator [07:47] seb128: i haven't installed anything myself , but i can see UI Toolkit [07:47] no [07:47] brb [07:48] mihir, weird [07:48] seb128: that is also there without any icon :| [07:59] i thought it might be a scope or something which is showing up incorrectly [08:01] hmm may be, i'll try to remove from cache === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon-brb === rmescandon-brb is now known as rmescandon [08:46] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Mulligan Day! :-D [09:04] JamesTait, Mulligan. give me a new day [09:07] brendand, happy Spreadsheet Day! :) [09:07] oh no - that's worse! [09:07] i guess that's what mulligans are about though [09:08] Wear Something Gaudy Day? [09:10] Hi [09:11] vitimiti, o/ [09:11] \o [09:15] JamesTait: brendand, In my country (belgium) today is youth movement day [09:15] justCarakas, where are the youth moving to? [09:17] JamesTait: hehe :p scouts and stuff [09:18] but since today is a schoolday they probably all moved to school today :p [09:19] I used to be in the Scouts. [09:39] popey, repeat is broken in the music app. is that known? [09:39] popey, shuffle seems to work fine [09:51] brendand: news to me. please file a bug. [10:26] popey, I noticed Filippo's tabs addition MP for Terminal. It looks like a big diff - do we have someone who could help him with a review? It'd be really cool to get that landed [10:45] JamesTait: heya [10:45] Hi mihir! [10:46] Did I comment on the wrong bug? [10:46] JamesTait: nope , i guess..but need more info. [10:46] Fire away! [10:46] JamesTait: on what image and calendar version are you ? [10:46] * JamesTait checks [10:49] mihir, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8578496/ [10:50] mihir, I think the original problem was that I was getting reminders, even though it said "No reminder set". But that's fixed. \o/ [10:50] It's just this timezone oddness now. [10:50] JamesTait: yes , previously No Reminder === "Remind me on Event" [10:51] JamesTait: now that is fixed and update must be there in store. [10:51] JamesTait: can you check the update of Calendar in store ? [10:52] I don't see an update in the store. [10:52] "Software is up to date" [10:54] 0.4.502 is what I see in https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/package/com.ubuntu.calendar [10:54] JamesTait: i'll look into this, the No Reminder issue must have been resolved , so if you see in reminder [10:54] you'll get this options , No Reminder, On Event Time [10:54] mihir, yes, that's resolved, thanks. :) [10:55] i'll look into timezone issues. [10:55] mihir, although I think it defaults to "On event"? So I thought it was still present until I went back and checked, then realised I *had* set a reminder. [10:56] JamesTait: hmm yup , so if you say now No Reminder , it won't set any reminder. [10:56] Yeah, that worked after I realised my mistake and corrected it. :) [10:56] \m/ [10:57] I couldn't have put it better. ;) [10:57] so JamesTait still the timezone issue is happening right? [10:57] popey: hit me hard (Lol) by mistake i hit Update and now it is stuck at Boot Logo , how can i downgrade ?? :( [10:57] Yes, the timezone issue does still seem to be a problem. [10:57] It seems like the reminder is stored in UTC, but triggered according to local time. [10:58] JamesTait: i believe you are storing events on your Google Calenadr correct? [10:58] One day, everyone will just use UTC allt he time, and the world will be a happier place. [10:58] JamesTait: exactly :D [10:58] mihir, this one was in the local ("Personal", IIRC) calendar. [10:59] Hmmm okay. I'll try to reproduce and will let you know [10:59] I don't think I've tried it with Google calendars yet. [10:59] JamesTait: would you mind if you can create another bug for this ?? as this is misguiding :P [11:00] JamesTait: my device is stuck at ubuntu Logo :( do you know how can i downgrade? [11:00] Actually, I *must* have tried it with Google calendars. I have *dozens" of events sync'd with Google. [11:01] mihir, IIRC, the advice was to "hold down power and volup/voldown, to get to bootloader, select recovery from the menu, then use phablet-device-flash" [11:01] mihir, I'll raise a separate bug for the tz issue. [11:03] JamesTait: thank you. as this is already fix, i'll attach this bug to related MP [11:03] Perfect. :) [11:17] mihir, bug #1382516 [11:17] bug 1382516 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Event reminders stored in UTC but triggered in local timezone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382516 [11:17] JamesTait: awesome thank you. [11:17] No problem. Let me know if you need more details. :) [11:24] Mirv: ping [11:25] Mirv: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-021/+build/6463878 downgrading with this package will allow me to boot into 94 mako ? [11:30] mihir: pong [11:30] mihir: the client2, common2 and media-hub packages, yes. if you adb them to /home/phablet, adb shell in and do dpkg -i *.deb (assuming no other debs in the directory), it will work after reboot === renato is now known as Guest37257 [11:33] and sudo needs to be used, plus developer mode enabled to be able to use sudo with the PIN code === boiko__ is now known as boiko === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:24] Mirv: thanks , it worked for me. [12:25] Mirv: i am not sure but , revision took me back to 87 no idea how. [12:27] I am non ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed-customized [12:33] mihir: eh, weird. I'm on ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/devel-proposed [12:34] Mirv: Hmm okay , i will need to flash i'll do that afterwards then :P [12:44] woop woop..you can now use any of the words shown in https://imgur.com/gOli2CK to highlight me :) [12:44] hah [12:44] nik90: do we need to push a click yet (gonna go afk soon) [12:44] a clock click clock click... [12:45] popey: unfortunately my MPs have not been reviewed yet [12:45] popey: we will do it on monday [12:45] ah. okay. [13:10] nik90: curious to ask , what kind of setting page is this ? [13:20] mihir: its from my irc bouncer that I use to stay online === karni is now known as karni-lunch [13:55] mihir, I'm pretty sure it's about his bouncer, https://www.irccloud.com/ [14:25] posey [14:28] wassup? === karni-lunch is now known as karni [14:58] nik90: ahahhaha got it :D [16:10] Hi === karni is now known as karni-eod [17:47] hi all [17:53] ahoneybun, how goes app development? [18:55] hello! I wanted to ask if a release-date for the ubuntu-touch RTM already exists. [19:46] danielbe, there are already images for the RTM [20:02] ahoneybun:: are these images the "final" images? I thought it was some kind of "branch". [20:16] danielbe: AFAIK there hasn't been a release date set yet for the final golden image. Just "Later this year". [20:16] hey DanChapman :-) [20:18] Will the ubuntu touch devices will regularly got updates? [20:18] danielbe, good question. It depends [20:19] danielbe, there is basically a do it yourself mode, where you can utilize updates on the fly [20:19] or there is a ubuntu release [20:19] erm [20:19] I am not a hundred percent on the details. Let me check reddit. [20:20] I'm interested in the response because I would like to know if after the RTM, I would have to target several ubuntu touch release. [20:20] Like 14.10 and 15.04 and so on... [20:21] danielbe, the official way is just to have periodic updates afaik [20:22] danielbe, to that though, I don't know enough details as to how phone manufacturers will handle the updates. [20:23] danielbe, definitely a good question for askubuntu. [20:23] let me know if you ask, and I'll upvote it. I'm interested in the answer as well. [20:23] danielbe: i think it's done by targeting click frameworks and not "release" as such. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Click/Frameworks [20:24] til :) [20:24] DanChapman: That's what I was searching :-) [20:25] :-) [20:26] DanChapman: I read somewhere that you wanted to release dekko 0.4 soon. [20:27] When would that be? I wanted to fix two bugs, but I first wanted to finish another project before. [20:29] danielbe: 0.3 yeah i'm pushing to get that out over this weekend. Sunday latest... anything not done i'll bump to 0.4 but there's only a few left, so i'm not too bothered if a couple don't get in. [20:30] OK:-) [20:30] do you want me to retarget the progress bar bug to 0.4? and i'll just disable the LoadingOverlay for now? [20:36] DanChapman: hey, would it be possible to distinguish between read and unread emails more prominently by showing unread email titles in bold perhaps? [20:36] DanChapman: at the moment, they defer only by the listitem color, which is not that effective IMO. [20:37] nik90: hey there :-) bug 1378293 would be great to get your thoughts [20:37] bug 1378293 in dekko "Darker background of read messages actually suggests they're highlighted - unread" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1378293 [20:39] DanChapman: ooh I like number #2 in the dropbox link. [20:39] ;) [20:39] nik90: INBOX__007? [20:39] DanChapman: INBOX_006 [20:39] DanChapman: although tbh, I like both and cannot make up my mind :D [20:40] actually INBOX_006 [20:41] because in that screenshot, my eyes immidiately fall on the listitem with a darker background which are the unread emails [20:41] nik90: right so either way "read" messages should have no background /use page background. I'm tron between lighter or darker for un-read. danielbe prefers the lighter so it's still undecided :-D [20:41] s/tron/torn [20:42] hehe..maybe use a G+ in the app dev community to resolve it? [20:43] ohh yeah!! i totally forgot to do that. danielbe suggested that aswell :-D [20:43] * DanChapman heads off over to g+ [20:44] :-) [20:44] :) [20:44] nik90: one more thing. do you think the timestamp should be a heavier weight aswell for un-read [20:44] For me, darker items means "the items are disabled". [20:46] DanChapman: I mostly am used to the Gmail app where they don't use a heavier weight for the timestamp. But this is a minor detail that I leave to your discretion. [21:04] DanChapman: nik90 My wife also prefers the darker one. INBOX_006 [21:04] So, I guess I'm really outnumbered :-) [21:11] danielbe: well... the dark background it is then :-D [21:15] :-) [21:18] akiva-thinkpad!!!! [21:20] my internet has been out for awhile [21:35] bah [21:35] didnt respond in time :P [21:36] someone give him my regards if he comes back. [21:39] \o/ Memory successfully implimented :) [21:43] out for a bit ; later === salem_ is now known as _salem [23:26] !ping [23:26] pong!