| share | hello? | 05:22 |
|---|---|---|
| * willcooke -> packing | 07:19 | |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:20 |
| seb128 | willcooke, good luck with that! | 07:20 |
| willcooke | seb128, :? | 07:20 |
| willcooke | seb128, :/ | 07:20 |
| seb128 | when is your flight? | 07:20 |
| willcooke | erm, | 07:21 |
| willcooke | I'm leaving here at 1pm | 07:21 |
| willcooke | so I've got enough time | 07:21 |
| willcooke | as long as I dont have to do washing first | 07:21 |
| seb128 | yeah, a bit late for that! | 07:22 |
| desrt | pitti: the more containers talks i go to the more i become convinced that we made some sort of mistake by not having a microkernel... | 07:22 |
| willcooke | have you been drinking desrt ? | 07:22 |
| willcooke | ;) | 07:22 |
| desrt | willcooke: there are a whole class of kernel problems that for years have been considered 'not really a problem' since they require root in order to do things | 07:23 |
| desrt | but now you have root in your container for purposes of that container, and are able to exploit this whole class of bugs | 07:23 |
| desrt | things like filesystem driver bugs | 07:23 |
| desrt | "only root can mount filesystems, so intentionally corrupted filesystems are not a security concern" | 07:24 |
| willcooke | hmm | 07:25 |
| willcooke | I see the issue | 07:25 |
| Noskcaj | Can someone plz look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/libgweather/bugfix/+merge/238660 | 07:28 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 07:29 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, wie gehts? | 07:29 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, what about the first half of the patch, why is it not upstream? | 07:30 |
| pitti | seb128: gut, danke! I'm in the LXC track right now, and will go back to the systemd hacking in the afternoon | 07:30 |
| seb128 | nice | 07:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, when do you fly to washington? | 07:31 |
| Noskcaj | seb128, It is, sorry i worded it porrly | 07:34 |
| pitti | seb128: Sunday noon, 11:40 to 15:15 | 07:34 |
| Noskcaj | *poorly | 07:34 |
| pitti | seb128: with desrt | 07:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, k | 07:34 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, I don't understand the "second half" part then | 07:34 |
| pitti | seb128: but you are most likely on a different flight? | 07:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, I'm flying on saturday | 07:34 |
| Noskcaj | We have https://git.gnome.org/browse/libgweather/commit/?h=gnome-3-12&id=89de9f95660f2fcdaf8ffc4ebe3c7c192d42f464 , but still need https://git.gnome.org/browse/libgweather/commit/?h=gnome-3-12&id=6fed603e51538c10ebdbbbda857e94b352169056 | 07:36 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, does it mean the sru which was done is incomplete/not working? | 07:37 |
| Noskcaj | yeah | 07:38 |
| Noskcaj | I'll make a branch for it when this is in utopic | 07:38 |
| seb128 | k | 07:39 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, can you reply to my comment on the merge request? | 07:44 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, ? | 07:49 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, ... | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey hey, happy friday! | 08:06 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, happy friday: | 08:08 |
| seb128 | ! | 08:08 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 08:08 |
| seb128 | Sweetsha1k, hey, could you review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1342175 ? | 08:08 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1342175 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[upstream] Poor performance with find & replace with empty value on large data set" [Medium,In progress] | 08:08 |
| Laney | oh no, debian-vote | 08:11 |
| pitti | Laney: :( just got aware of that too | 08:15 |
| darkxst | pitti, Laney, gnome-terminal can probably go straight to 3.14, the only problem is the alternate screen scroll patch, but I don't see how that is currently working in 3.12, vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll is just a stub | 08:20 |
| Laney | we dropped that one | 08:21 |
| darkxst | Laney, its still in the packaging branch | 08:23 |
| Laney | oh yes that's just the UI | 08:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, what are they voting on? | 08:28 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thanks for the note about the calendar/meetings | 08:36 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: already on my todo list | 08:36 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, hey, happy friday! great | 08:37 |
| willcooke | seb128, nw - I might be about to invite you to some more I'm afraid | 08:37 |
| seb128 | willcooke, sure, np, can you get me to "desktop" on monday afternoon? | 08:38 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: happy friday to you too! ;) -- upstream has tagged LibreOffice 4.2.7.2 this week, so we should be able to SRU both in one turn ... | 08:38 |
| willcooke | seb128, that's the fella :) | 08:38 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, great | 08:38 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ;-) | 08:38 |
| seb128 | willcooke, there is also a "desktop convergence" on tuesday | 08:39 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I guess I'm just going to come sit and listen in some of the sessions anyway | 08:39 |
| seb128 | just to know what's going on | 08:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, could you look at gtk in the utopic queue? | 08:45 |
| Laney | I look at everything in the queue regularly :-) | 08:45 |
| Laney | but fixing eds first | 08:45 |
| Laney | damn those poodles | 08:46 |
| Laney | also: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00001.html | 08:46 |
| seb128 | Laney, well, gtk is a one liner and I wanted to maybe have it ready for willcooke before he takes off for the airport, but alright | 08:46 |
| Laney | I'll just be 5 minutes | 08:47 |
| seb128 | thanks | 08:47 |
| seb128 | more init system fun | 08:47 |
| seb128 | "nice" | 08:47 |
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| willcooke | Laney, seb128 don't worry, my U8 laptop is packed now | 08:51 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:51 |
| seb128 | willcooke, k, well I still would like the Mir backend to be working in utopic, and I would like the update to be available over the w.e if we want to do a demo on monday or something | 08:52 |
| seb128 | so if that can go in today still a good thing to have | 08:52 |
| willcooke | that would be awesome! | 08:52 |
| willcooke | but don't rush on my account | 08:52 |
| seb128 | well, I don't, I uploaded | 08:53 |
| seb128 | I just used your name to get a bumped priority for review :p | 08:53 |
| seb128 | or tried | 08:53 |
| seb128 | you just ruined that ;-) | 08:53 |
| Laney | naughty | 08:54 |
| Laney | I think we've provided reasonable service this freeze | 08:54 |
| seb128 | see, now Laney is downscoring me for trying to play with the system! | 08:54 |
| seb128 | yeah, I can't complain | 08:54 |
| seb128 | I more pinged as a fyi in case you didn't plan to do a review shift this morning, not because it has been waiting long | 08:55 |
| Laney | sure | 08:55 |
| darkxst | Laney, no the ui was already dropped | 09:04 |
| Laney | what do you mean already? | 09:05 |
| darkxst | 51_alternate_screen_scroll.patch | 09:06 |
| darkxst | adds a gsettings key and calls a vte function that is a stub in 4.12 and removed in 3.14 | 09:06 |
| darkxst | ^3.12 even | 09:06 |
| Laney | 'already' meaning in the vcs | 09:07 |
| Laney | I'm not sure what your point is | 09:07 |
| Laney | we obviously have to stop using that API and do the upstream thing, but I'm not sure how you call that atm | 09:07 |
| darkxst | Laney, vcs is based on 3.12 right? | 09:07 |
| Laney | yes | 09:07 |
| darkxst | so that patch does nothing | 09:07 |
| Laney | so it has to be fixed, what's your point? | 09:08 |
| Laney | it is staged, not uploaded, nobody said it was finished | 09:08 |
| darkxst | Laney, as I said, can go straight to 3.14, but either way that needs to be fixed | 09:08 |
| Laney | are you offering to do it? | 09:09 |
| darkxst | I already have a 3.14 package, but I don't know how to fix that patch | 09:10 |
| Laney | they added a control sequence but I'm not sure how you're supposed to make use of it | 09:11 |
| Laney | you could go ask | 09:11 |
| Laney | I'm not hugely interested in supporting the feature | 09:11 |
| darkxst | yes I saw that | 09:11 |
| darkxst | I could ask but upstream are pretty grumpy with ubuntu | 09:14 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: hm, does that "free(): invalid pointer" crash in the LO test ring a bell? | 09:16 |
| larsu | darkxst: it's getting better. What's the problem? | 09:16 |
| darkxst | larsu, how to send the control sequencence that does the equivalent to vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll (which is removed) | 09:18 |
| Laney | I think it's only chpe and the others are fine to be fair | 09:18 |
| larsu | darkxst: what's alternate screen scroll? And why do we need it but upstream doesn't? | 09:19 |
| larsu | Laney: right | 09:19 |
| darkxst | Laney, yeh chpe is | 09:21 |
| darkxst | larsu, it modifies the scroll wheel behaviour for certain shell apps I think, no I idea why we need it really though | 09:21 |
| GunnarHj | Hi Laney! | 09:22 |
| darkxst | I would be happy to just drop it | 09:22 |
| larsu | darkxst: if we don't know why we need it, let's drop it until someone complains with a use case... | 09:22 |
| larsu | Laney: are you ok with that? ^ | 09:22 |
| Laney | If you read the bugs you find that people like to set it | 09:24 |
| Laney | I don't understand why they took the escape sequence and what you're supposed to do with it and I would like to find that out | 09:24 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Does "NotShowIn=GNOME" refer to Ubuntu GNOME only, or is Xubuntu, Lubuntu etc. included? | 09:25 |
| darkxst | GunnarHj, GNOME is only GNOME3 sessions | 09:27 |
| GunnarHj | darkxst: So the answer is yes? | 09:27 |
| darkxst | yes, so basically just gnome-shelll | 09:28 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: /me tries to get context from backlog | 09:28 |
| GunnarHj | darkxst: Great, thanks! | 09:28 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: so "free(): invalid pointer" doesnt ring a bell right away here. | 09:29 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: the LO tests, i. e. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-adt-libreoffice/336/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console | 09:31 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: ah! so I dont think that is a regression. The forms_* tests are unfortunately not 100% stable, just mostly stable (IIRC e.g. debian disables them in when they run them in check on package build). | 09:36 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Hi Martin! | 09:37 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Two things: | 09:37 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Do you have two minutes to review comment #17-21 at bug #678421? | 09:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 678421 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Error message for a faulty ~/.profile script" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678421 | 09:37 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Are you about to release new base langpacks? | 09:37 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: I left them in on the autopkgtests to see if there are any other issues there. On autopkgtests they dont block as much as in a check-phase in package build (which would throw away a day of libreoffice building). | 09:37 |
| seb128 | ok, need to go for some errands and lunch | 09:49 |
| seb128 | back a bit later than usual | 09:49 |
| seb128 | bbl | 09:49 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ack, retrying | 11:31 |
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| seb128 | kenvandine, hey | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 14:03 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, do you know what's the status/plan for settings landing? | 14:03 |
| seb128 | seems like we have a bunch lines and other important fixes not lined up yet | 14:03 |
| seb128 | like ted has one for the messaging changes | 14:04 |
| seb128 | you have one for the flight mode in rtm | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | waiting for the landings to open up again | 14:04 |
| seb128 | the custom ringtone needs to land, as apparently do some others | 14:04 |
| seb128 | you can do utopic landings | 14:04 |
| seb128 | just not rtm | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | yeah, but i'm worried about landing in utopic first :) | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | been bitten to many times | 14:04 |
| seb128 | ? | 14:05 |
| kenvandine | seb128, and the critical/high landings we need, are really needed in rtm | 14:05 |
| kenvandine | the delta | 14:05 |
| tedg | seb128, Do you know anyone using Evo? Getting an issue with GPG signed messages. | 14:05 |
| seb128 | well, just do a landing with the rcs | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | landings in utopic go faster than rtm | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | so if we get a few landings in utopic | 14:06 |
| seb128 | tedg, what issue? ogra_ does, Laney has it installed (so do I) | 14:06 |
| tedg | seb128, Also when sending the GPG signature area is full of debug messages. | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | and then we get held up in rtm, fails qa, etc | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | it's really hard to unwind stuff and get them in sync again | 14:06 |
| tedg | seb128, I'm curious if I'm missing a component as I don't have GPG settings in preferences anymore either. | 14:06 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, just put "qa not needed" ;-) | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | ha | 14:06 |
| seb128 | tedg, let me try | 14:06 |
| seb128 | tedg, what sort of issues do you have reading gpg signed emails? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | I get the banner "signature exists but require a public key" | 14:09 |
| tedg | seb128, They never open. When I select another message it gets replaced with: "Error verifying signature: Operation was cancelled" | 14:10 |
| seb128 | or "signature valide, but impossible to verify sender" | 14:10 |
| seb128 | urg | 14:10 |
| seb128 | no, that works for me | 14:10 |
| tedg | seb128, Do you have encryption settings in your preferences? | 14:10 |
| seb128 | trying on ubuntu-devel e.g with some emails from slangasek or pitti | 14:10 |
| pitti | seb128: are you sure that they are from me? :-) | 14:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, :-) | 14:11 |
| pitti | damn you gpg and your undeniable signatures | 14:11 |
| tedg | seb128, Which evolution packages do you have installed? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8579320/ | 14:12 |
| seb128 | tedg, utopic | 14:12 |
| seb128 | tedg, the settings are in the accounts' details | 14:12 |
| seb128 | like first tab of preference | 14:12 |
| seb128 | double click on an account | 14:12 |
| seb128 | bottom section | 14:12 |
| seb128 | "security" | 14:12 |
| tedg | Ah, so those just moved. | 14:13 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: ping? | 14:23 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: sorry, need to run, I have a train to catch | 14:24 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: conference, attention etc. -- can you please mail? | 14:25 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Sure, I can mail. Happy journey! | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | tedg, no issies here | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | *issues | 14:54 |
| tedg | Hmm, it must be something else installed or not installed. | 14:55 |
| tedg | Haven't been able to figure it out :-( | 14:55 |
| * Laney is taking off now | 16:35 | |
| Laney | see some of you soon | 16:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, have a safe travel, see you in Washington! | 16:41 |
| Laney | you too! | 16:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, when do you get there? sunday? | 16:45 |
| ogra_ | Laney, dont forget to carry a clipboard with you ... i heard that protects from certain deseases | 17:30 |
| Laney | seb128: yeah sunday 8.30pm ish | 19:55 |
| Laney | save me a welcome drink ;-) | 19:55 |
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