[05:22] hello? [07:19] * willcooke -> packing [07:20] good morning desktopers [07:20] willcooke, good luck with that! [07:20] seb128, :? [07:20] seb128, :/ [07:20] when is your flight? [07:21] erm, [07:21] I'm leaving here at 1pm [07:21] so I've got enough time [07:21] as long as I dont have to do washing first [07:22] yeah, a bit late for that! [07:22] pitti: the more containers talks i go to the more i become convinced that we made some sort of mistake by not having a microkernel... [07:22] have you been drinking desrt ? [07:22] ;) [07:23] willcooke: there are a whole class of kernel problems that for years have been considered 'not really a problem' since they require root in order to do things [07:23] but now you have root in your container for purposes of that container, and are able to exploit this whole class of bugs [07:23] things like filesystem driver bugs [07:24] "only root can mount filesystems, so intentionally corrupted filesystems are not a security concern" [07:25] hmm [07:25] I see the issue [07:28] Can someone plz look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/libgweather/bugfix/+merge/238660 [07:29] hey seb128 [07:29] hey pitti, wie gehts? [07:30] Noskcaj, what about the first half of the patch, why is it not upstream? [07:30] seb128: gut, danke! I'm in the LXC track right now, and will go back to the systemd hacking in the afternoon [07:30] nice [07:31] pitti, when do you fly to washington? [07:34] seb128, It is, sorry i worded it porrly [07:34] seb128: Sunday noon, 11:40 to 15:15 [07:34] *poorly [07:34] seb128: with desrt [07:34] pitti, k [07:34] Noskcaj, I don't understand the "second half" part then [07:34] seb128: but you are most likely on a different flight? [07:34] pitti, yeah, I'm flying on saturday [07:36] We have https://git.gnome.org/browse/libgweather/commit/?h=gnome-3-12&id=89de9f95660f2fcdaf8ffc4ebe3c7c192d42f464 , but still need https://git.gnome.org/browse/libgweather/commit/?h=gnome-3-12&id=6fed603e51538c10ebdbbbda857e94b352169056 [07:37] Noskcaj, does it mean the sru which was done is incomplete/not working? [07:38] yeah [07:38] I'll make a branch for it when this is in utopic [07:39] k [07:44] Noskcaj, can you reply to my comment on the merge request? [07:49] Noskcaj, ? [08:04] Noskcaj, ... [08:06] hey hey, happy friday! [08:08] hey Laney, happy friday: [08:08] ! [08:08] how are you? [08:08] Sweetsha1k, hey, could you review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1342175 ? [08:08] Ubuntu bug 1342175 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[upstream] Poor performance with find & replace with empty value on large data set" [Medium,In progress] [08:11] oh no, debian-vote [08:15] Laney: :( just got aware of that too [08:20] pitti, Laney, gnome-terminal can probably go straight to 3.14, the only problem is the alternate screen scroll patch, but I don't see how that is currently working in 3.12, vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll is just a stub [08:21] we dropped that one [08:23] Laney, its still in the packaging branch [08:28] oh yes that's just the UI [08:28] Laney, what are they voting on? [08:36] willcooke, thanks for the note about the calendar/meetings [08:36] seb128: already on my todo list [08:37] Sweetshark, hey, happy friday! great [08:37] seb128, nw - I might be about to invite you to some more I'm afraid [08:38] willcooke, sure, np, can you get me to "desktop" on monday afternoon? [08:38] seb128: happy friday to you too! ;) -- upstream has tagged LibreOffice 4.2.7.2 this week, so we should be able to SRU both in one turn ... [08:38] seb128, that's the fella :) [08:38] Sweetshark, great [08:38] willcooke, ;-) [08:39] willcooke, there is also a "desktop convergence" on tuesday [08:39] willcooke, I guess I'm just going to come sit and listen in some of the sessions anyway [08:39] just to know what's going on [08:45] Laney, could you look at gtk in the utopic queue? [08:45] I look at everything in the queue regularly :-) [08:45] but fixing eds first [08:46] damn those poodles [08:46] also: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00001.html [08:46] Laney, well, gtk is a one liner and I wanted to maybe have it ready for willcooke before he takes off for the airport, but alright [08:47] I'll just be 5 minutes [08:47] thanks [08:47] more init system fun [08:47] "nice" === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [08:51] Laney, seb128 don't worry, my U8 laptop is packed now [08:51] :) [08:52] willcooke, k, well I still would like the Mir backend to be working in utopic, and I would like the update to be available over the w.e if we want to do a demo on monday or something [08:52] so if that can go in today still a good thing to have [08:52] that would be awesome! [08:52] but don't rush on my account [08:53] well, I don't, I uploaded [08:53] I just used your name to get a bumped priority for review :p [08:53] or tried [08:53] you just ruined that ;-) [08:54] naughty [08:54] I think we've provided reasonable service this freeze [08:54] see, now Laney is downscoring me for trying to play with the system! [08:54] yeah, I can't complain [08:55] I more pinged as a fyi in case you didn't plan to do a review shift this morning, not because it has been waiting long [08:55] sure [09:04] Laney, no the ui was already dropped [09:05] what do you mean already? [09:06] 51_alternate_screen_scroll.patch [09:06] adds a gsettings key and calls a vte function that is a stub in 4.12 and removed in 3.14 [09:06] ^3.12 even [09:07] 'already' meaning in the vcs [09:07] I'm not sure what your point is [09:07] we obviously have to stop using that API and do the upstream thing, but I'm not sure how you call that atm [09:07] Laney, vcs is based on 3.12 right? [09:07] yes [09:07] so that patch does nothing [09:08] so it has to be fixed, what's your point? [09:08] it is staged, not uploaded, nobody said it was finished [09:08] Laney, as I said, can go straight to 3.14, but either way that needs to be fixed [09:09] are you offering to do it? [09:10] I already have a 3.14 package, but I don't know how to fix that patch [09:11] they added a control sequence but I'm not sure how you're supposed to make use of it [09:11] you could go ask [09:11] I'm not hugely interested in supporting the feature [09:11] yes I saw that [09:14] I could ask but upstream are pretty grumpy with ubuntu [09:16] Sweetshark: hm, does that "free(): invalid pointer" crash in the LO test ring a bell? [09:16] darkxst: it's getting better. What's the problem? [09:18] larsu, how to send the control sequencence that does the equivalent to vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll (which is removed) [09:18] I think it's only chpe and the others are fine to be fair [09:19] darkxst: what's alternate screen scroll? And why do we need it but upstream doesn't? [09:19] Laney: right [09:21] Laney, yeh chpe is [09:21] larsu, it modifies the scroll wheel behaviour for certain shell apps I think, no I idea why we need it really though [09:22] Hi Laney! [09:22] I would be happy to just drop it [09:22] darkxst: if we don't know why we need it, let's drop it until someone complains with a use case... [09:22] Laney: are you ok with that? ^ [09:24] If you read the bugs you find that people like to set it [09:24] I don't understand why they took the escape sequence and what you're supposed to do with it and I would like to find that out [09:25] Laney: Does "NotShowIn=GNOME" refer to Ubuntu GNOME only, or is Xubuntu, Lubuntu etc. included? [09:27] GunnarHj, GNOME is only GNOME3 sessions [09:27] darkxst: So the answer is yes? [09:28] yes, so basically just gnome-shelll [09:28] pitti: /me tries to get context from backlog [09:28] darkxst: Great, thanks! [09:29] pitti: so "free(): invalid pointer" doesnt ring a bell right away here. [09:31] Sweetshark: the LO tests, i. e. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-adt-libreoffice/336/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console [09:36] pitti: ah! so I dont think that is a regression. The forms_* tests are unfortunately not 100% stable, just mostly stable (IIRC e.g. debian disables them in when they run them in check on package build). [09:37] pitti: Hi Martin! [09:37] pitti: Two things: [09:37] pitti: Do you have two minutes to review comment #17-21 at bug #678421? [09:37] bug 678421 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Error message for a faulty ~/.profile script" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678421 [09:37] pitti: Are you about to release new base langpacks? [09:37] pitti: I left them in on the autopkgtests to see if there are any other issues there. On autopkgtests they dont block as much as in a check-phase in package build (which would throw away a day of libreoffice building). [09:49] ok, need to go for some errands and lunch [09:49] back a bit later than usual [09:49] bbl [11:31] Sweetshark: ack, retrying === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:03] kenvandine, hey [14:03] hey seb128 [14:03] kenvandine, do you know what's the status/plan for settings landing? [14:03] seems like we have a bunch lines and other important fixes not lined up yet [14:04] like ted has one for the messaging changes [14:04] you have one for the flight mode in rtm [14:04] waiting for the landings to open up again [14:04] the custom ringtone needs to land, as apparently do some others [14:04] you can do utopic landings [14:04] just not rtm [14:04] yeah, but i'm worried about landing in utopic first :) [14:04] been bitten to many times [14:05] ? [14:05] seb128, and the critical/high landings we need, are really needed in rtm [14:05] the delta [14:05] seb128, Do you know anyone using Evo? Getting an issue with GPG signed messages. [14:06] well, just do a landing with the rcs [14:06] landings in utopic go faster than rtm [14:06] so if we get a few landings in utopic [14:06] tedg, what issue? ogra_ does, Laney has it installed (so do I) [14:06] seb128, Also when sending the GPG signature area is full of debug messages. [14:06] and then we get held up in rtm, fails qa, etc [14:06] it's really hard to unwind stuff and get them in sync again [14:06] seb128, I'm curious if I'm missing a component as I don't have GPG settings in preferences anymore either. [14:06] kenvandine, just put "qa not needed" ;-) [14:06] ha [14:06] tedg, let me try [14:09] tedg, what sort of issues do you have reading gpg signed emails? [14:09] I get the banner "signature exists but require a public key" [14:10] seb128, They never open. When I select another message it gets replaced with: "Error verifying signature: Operation was cancelled" [14:10] or "signature valide, but impossible to verify sender" [14:10] urg [14:10] no, that works for me [14:10] seb128, Do you have encryption settings in your preferences? [14:10] trying on ubuntu-devel e.g with some emails from slangasek or pitti [14:11] seb128: are you sure that they are from me? :-) [14:11] pitti, :-) [14:11] damn you gpg and your undeniable signatures [14:12] seb128, Which evolution packages do you have installed? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8579320/ [14:12] tedg, utopic [14:12] tedg, the settings are in the accounts' details [14:12] like first tab of preference [14:12] double click on an account [14:12] bottom section [14:12] "security" [14:13] Ah, so those just moved. [14:23] pitti: ping? [14:24] GunnarHj: sorry, need to run, I have a train to catch [14:25] GunnarHj: conference, attention etc. -- can you please mail? [14:25] pitti: Sure, I can mail. Happy journey! [14:54] tedg, no issies here [14:54] *issues [14:55] Hmm, it must be something else installed or not installed. [14:55] Haven't been able to figure it out :-( [16:35] * Laney is taking off now [16:36] see some of you soon [16:41] Laney, have a safe travel, see you in Washington! [16:41] you too! [16:45] Laney, when do you get there? sunday? [17:30] Laney, dont forget to carry a clipboard with you ... i heard that protects from certain deseases [19:55] seb128: yeah sunday 8.30pm ish [19:55] save me a welcome drink ;-)