| jrwren | new kid looks good: https://taiga.io/# | 13:03 |
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| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/X72aLJ - Taiga.Io | Agile, Open Source, Free Project Management System | 13:03 |
| brousch | More programmers solving programmer problems? | 13:05 |
| brousch | Sorry. sometimes it seems like a big circle jerk and it depresses me | 13:10 |
| jrwren | brousch: we programmers love our tools. I think most folks with jobs which involve a lot of tools love their tools. | 13:12 |
| jrwren | Hence, the craftsman analogies. | 13:13 |
| jrwren | brousch: I find taiga interesting not because its another circle jerk, but because they are addressing a real problem. | 13:13 |
| jrwren | brousch: all the open source tools of that nature are old and not easy to use. Everything else is commercial. | 13:13 |
| wolfger | cmaloney: Star Realms? | 13:21 |
| brousch | Is that like Go but with star shaped stones? | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 13:33 |
| cmaloney | No, it's a deck building game that is available on Android / iOS | 13:34 |
| cmaloney | It's awesome | 13:34 |
| cmaloney | What exactly is Taiga other than a nice little web site that has some broad promises? | 13:35 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | Bah, I forgot that it's release season. :) | 14:12 |
| cmaloney | Anyone want to have a release party? | 14:12 |
| brousch | Release? Is windows 10 out already? | 14:16 |
| cmaloney | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ <- Well considering the release parties aren't even on the calendar for global events. :) | 14:17 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/TDg8aQ - Ubuntu LoCo Events List | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal | 14:17 |
| jrwren | brousch: um... utopic! which is already the best ubuntu EVER! | 14:17 |
| cmaloney | You say that about all of them. :) | 14:18 |
| brousch | I'm happy with Kubuntu 14.04 | 14:19 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: each one is better than the previous. So it is always true! | 14:20 |
| jrwren | Is kubuntu 14.10 shipping plasma 5.1? | 14:20 |
| brousch | Linux Action Show said 14.10 has nothing new in it except some wallpapers. They seemed to imply it was pointless | 14:22 |
| brousch | Also, you get paid to say it's awesome now | 14:22 |
| jrwren | brousch: i don't even work on that team. if it was crap, I'd say so. | 14:23 |
| brousch | You're tainted now. You cannot be trusted with this opinion. | 14:23 |
| jrwren | You are right. Windows 10 it is. I can't WAIT for it. It is everything 8 should have been. | 14:24 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Sadly I think you're right on most counts. | 14:26 |
| jrwren | if only windows 10 were free for me. I'm still a 7 user, and I don't see myself every paying for Windows again. | 14:26 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Wow | 14:26 |
| jrwren | All of my Win7 licenses were free as in beer from MSFT. | 14:26 |
| cmaloney | That is not something I expected you to say. :) | 14:27 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: really? | 14:27 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, I'm not sure what's in 14.10. The team's work on juju-quickstart I guess :) | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Yeah, you were my go-to person for Windows information. | 14:27 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: ah, I've not been that for at least 2 yrs :( | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | No worries. | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | I'd rather you be my go-to person for Ubuntu stuff. :) | 14:28 |
| cmaloney | Ubuntu being anything developer related under Ubuntu | 14:28 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: only server. I know very little about ubuntu desktop. | 14:28 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Yeah, that's what I meant | 14:28 |
| cmaloney | Not sure who is working on desktop at the moment | 14:29 |
| jrwren | I'd say brousch :) | 14:29 |
| cmaloney | Gah, I'm so far behind on newsfeeds it's not even funny | 14:29 |
| cmaloney | I know it's bad when there's 17 Seth Godin posts I haven't read. | 14:30 |
| brousch | jrwren: I am using the KDE desktop, but I do not work on Unity | 14:31 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: yeah, feedly is fine, but death of google reader was also the death of my routine reading | 14:32 |
| cmaloney | I'm using Newsblur and I'm 900+ stories | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | I'm about to declare bankruptcy on my feeds | 14:36 |
| jrwren | information overload! | 14:37 |
| jrwren | unsubscribe from the high volume ones. | 14:37 |
| mrgoodcat | i think i'm the only person ever who actually likes unity | 14:41 |
| mrgoodcat | 14.10 doesn't have any real ground-breaking changes. some aesthetic things and it is now possible to run unity 8 if you want to | 14:42 |
| cmaloney | I like Unity as well | 14:42 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm using i3 right now though | 14:42 |
| mrgoodcat | unity is a pain to get running on arch | 14:42 |
| cmaloney | No surprise there | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | lots of people like unity | 14:42 |
| brousch | I put it on my kid's c720. It annoys me and him | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | many complained early, but were pacified later | 14:43 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: arch? or unity? | 14:43 |
| brousch | Unity | 14:43 |
| mrgoodcat | what don't you like about it? | 14:43 |
| brousch | I went the lazy route and used a script to install on the chromebook. It came with Unity | 14:43 |
| mrgoodcat | i assume you used chrubuntu | 14:43 |
| brousch | The same old things I complain about. He could not figure out how to close a window because of on-hover menus | 14:43 |
| mrgoodcat | ah well thats just getting used to it | 14:48 |
| mrgoodcat | besides, he should know better than to use the mouse ;) | 14:48 |
| brousch | minecraft | 14:48 |
| brousch | That's the only reason he has it | 14:48 |
| mrgoodcat | "it" is the compuer or unity? | 14:49 |
| brousch | But it's working better than my last experience on OSX. My wife wanted to install a minecraft mod and we could not figure out how to find the right dir | 14:49 |
| brousch | Open find, go to "your name"/something/Libraries | 14:50 |
| brousch | finder | 14:50 |
| brousch | Finder does not show any way to get to your home dir | 14:50 |
| jrwren | mrgoodcat: i like unity. Once I found ? for help, I found it usable :) | 14:50 |
| mrgoodcat | "it" is the compuer or unity? | 14:52 |
| mrgoodcat | the internet is so infuriating here | 14:52 |
| mrgoodcat | I can't stay connected to the wifi | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | my whole class is having the same problem | 14:53 |
| brousch | Unity | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | :< | 14:53 |
| brousch | Sounds like the access point is full | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | :</ | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | what does unity have to do with minecraft? | 14:53 |
| brousch | Have everyone turn off their phone's wifi | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: i think it probably is | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | everyone is probably not just my class | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | my class is only 5 people | 14:54 |
| brousch | He only has non-ChromeOS because he plays minecraft. Unity was the simplest route | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | ah | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | got it | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | is it dualboot or chroot? | 14:54 |
| brousch | dual boot | 14:55 |
| brousch | I had trouble with chrouton. If you don't shut it down right it can get corrupted, and you can't count on a 6 year old to shut down correctly every time | 14:55 |
| brousch | also it is complicated to turn on the chroot and switch to it | 14:56 |
| mrgoodcat | got i really suck at early game... | 14:56 |
| brousch | I'll probably take my other c720 and make it single-boot kubuntu | 14:56 |
| mrgoodcat | my c720 is single boot arch | 14:56 |
| mrgoodcat | if you use kernel 3.17 the drivers are supported | 14:57 |
| mrgoodcat | no patches needed | 14:57 |
| brousch | Did you do the seabios commands and the screw thing? | 14:57 |
| mrgoodcat | nah | 14:57 |
| mrgoodcat | didn't see any need | 14:57 |
| mrgoodcat | what advantages do you get from it? | 14:58 |
| brousch | If it totally runs out of power it could revert | 14:58 |
| mrgoodcat | hmm | 14:58 |
| mrgoodcat | i've run it out of power a couple times | 14:58 |
| mrgoodcat | wait no its dual boot | 14:58 |
| mrgoodcat | not single | 14:58 |
| mrgoodcat | idk what i was thinking there | 14:58 |
| mrgoodcat | but yea. 3.17.1 is the current stable branch and it runs flawlessly on the c720 | 14:59 |
| brousch | jrwren: Do you use OSX's finder or is there some secret actually-useful replacement I hadn't heard of? | 15:01 |
| jrwren | brousch: you shutdown your laptop? | 15:01 |
| jrwren | brousch: iterm + gnu coreutils :) | 15:01 |
| brousch | No, but my son will sometimes dislodge the power cord and let it run out completely | 15:01 |
| jrwren | brousch: i use Finder for very few operations. | 15:01 |
| jrwren | brousch: it doesn't go to sleep? | 15:01 |
| brousch | I think minecraft keeps it awake | 15:02 |
| jrwren | brousch: oh, he probably leave minecraft running and that... yeah.. bummer. | 15:02 |
| mrgoodcat | i've taken it down to 0 a couple times. never had a problem | 15:02 |
| brousch | Actually it's possible he reset it at the white screen of doom when booting it | 15:04 |
| mrgoodcat | spacebar of death | 15:04 |
| mrgoodcat | i did that once | 15:04 |
| mrgoodcat | it was a bad day | 15:04 |
| brousch | The problem with being able to read but not really understand | 15:04 |
| wolfger | Is it too late to chime in on the betterness of new distros? :-p | 15:04 |
| mrgoodcat | the wording is super confusing too | 15:04 |
| mrgoodcat | "if you don't hit spacebar you might possibly die in hellfire or something" | 15:04 |
| wolfger | I think Kubuntu has finally surpassed Feisty, but it took several years, and maybe I just forgot how good Feisty was finally. | 15:05 |
| mrgoodcat | wolfger: nah feel free :) | 15:05 |
| mrgoodcat | what number was Feisty? | 15:05 |
| brousch | I'm really happy with Kubuntu. It just works | 15:05 |
| mrgoodcat | i've never spent a lot of time in KDE | 15:06 |
| wolfger | Feisty was 7.04 | 15:06 |
| mrgoodcat | oh lol | 15:06 |
| mrgoodcat | i was 14 | 15:07 |
| wolfger | Although in fairness to Kubuntu, they were hamstrung for quite a while waiting for KDE 4 to stop sucking when compared to KDE 3. | 15:07 |
| mrgoodcat | kde always looks dated to me | 15:07 |
| wolfger | ...and now KDE 5 will come out. | 15:07 |
| brousch | I might still have my warty warthog CD | 15:07 |
| brousch | Are those worth money yet? | 15:08 |
| mrgoodcat | 1$ | 15:09 |
| brousch | mrgoodcat: Doh, played too quickly and missed a better move | 17:04 |
| brousch | I did | 17:04 |
| wolfger | Just played out the next 7 moves against cmaloney... | 17:46 |
| wolfger | Should change the name of this channel to #go-us-mi though. ;-) | 17:50 |
| brousch | heh | 17:52 |
| brousch | Wow 7 moves is a lot. You accounted for his likely counters? | 17:53 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 17:55 |
| cmaloney | I doubt it. :) | 17:56 |
| brousch | o_O http://techreport.com/news/27228/this-mini-bay-trail-pc-is-the-size-of-a-thumb-drive | 18:44 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/Vpdq0R - This mini Bay Trail PC is the size of a thumb drive - The Tech Report | 18:44 |
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| cmaloney | http://www.reddit.com/r/Detroit/comments/2jja6m/sweet_detour_bro/ | 21:46 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/xxkRkW - Sweet detour, bro. : Detroit | 21:46 |
| wolfger | brousch: I accounted for his likely counters, yes... of course cmaloney foiled me by not trying to counter my capture. I'm confused as to what his plan is. | 22:46 |
| === __dzho__ is now known as dzho | ||
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