[05:01] <Kilos> morning all
[06:06] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  Squirm  inetpro  
[06:10] <Squirm> hello
[06:26] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:02] <Kilos> hi bduk1  
[07:03] <bduk1> Morning Kilos and everyone else
[07:15] <Kilos> hi Spekko  Vince-0  
[08:28] <Vince-0> !
[08:54] <charl> good morning
[08:54] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:54]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:54] <Squirm> I need to start going to be before 12
[08:55]  * Squirm falls asleep
[08:55] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee please
[08:55] <Maaz> Squirm: Righto
[08:55] <JabberwockyA19> morning :)
[08:55] <Squirm> Maaz: larger
[08:55] <Maaz> Sorry Squirm  No more than a beer mug full is allowed. Times are hard!
[08:55] <JabberwockyA19> Maaz: coffee for me too please
[08:55] <Maaz> JabberwockyA19: *blink*
[08:55] <Squirm> oh come on
[08:55] <Squirm> Maaz: large
[08:55] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Squirm
[08:55] <charl> Maaz: large
[08:55] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you charl
[08:55] <charl> Maaz: with rusks
[08:55] <Maaz> There is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard charl help yourself
[08:58] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Squirm!
[08:59] <Squirm> woo
[09:18] <Kilos> hi JabberwockyA19  charl  
[09:19] <JabberwockyA19> hey Kilos :)
[09:20] <charl> hey Kilos 
[09:20] <charl> hi JabberwockyA19 
[09:20] <charl> *hi kilos, sorry
[09:20] <Kilos> you okes and your getho greetings
[09:20] <charl> before you say i sound like a wigger again
[09:20] <JabberwockyA19> hi charl :P
[09:20] <Kilos> haha
[09:21]  * Kilos trying to learn some html. gonna try writing it out over and over till it sinks in
[09:21] <charl> ah very good Kilos 
[09:22] <charl> learning is fun and good
[09:22] <charl> you making a site again ?
[09:22] <Kilos> nope im hoping to understand how to help fix sites
[09:23] <Kilos> that clickworker pays for it
[09:23] <Kilos> minimal but more than im getting now
[09:24] <charl> nice
[09:24] <charl> good luck and tell us if you have questions
[09:24] <charl> i have been doing web development since 1997 or so
[09:24] <Kilos> oh i will dont worry ty. ive found a nice easy tutorial
[09:27] <Kilos> for raw beginners
[09:31] <JabberwockyA19> I've been studying way too much frontend tech
[09:32] <JabberwockyA19> old and new, these days I'm on the traceur (es6 -> es5 compiler) with polymer (web components extention) and angularjs bandwagon
[09:32] <JabberwockyA19> it's more like a train than a wagon though
[09:32] <JabberwockyA19> can't even say all in one breath
[09:34] <Kilos> lol
[09:34] <Kilos> just keep studying
[09:36] <JabberwockyA19> at one stage I thought I was wasting my time with things like coffeescript, but at the end of the day you still learn different concepts
[09:40] <JabberwockyA19> I'll probably write a atom plugin to respect vim swp files this weekend, so I'll need to use coffeescript again
[10:41] <charl> very nice JabberwockyA19 
[11:56] <superfly> Kilos: http://htmldog.com
[11:56] <Kilos> lemme go see
[11:56] <Kilos> ty superfly  
[12:01] <Kilos> will use both ty superfly  , im on this one atm
[12:01] <Kilos> http://htmldog.com/guides/html/beginner/
[12:02] <Kilos> will take a while anyway to get to remember any of it
[12:03] <Kilos> and gardening and cooking between
[12:39] <Squirm> Kilos: w3schools is also good
[12:40] <Squirm> that's where I learn
[12:40] <Squirm> t
[12:40] <Kilos> lemme just try get the basics into my head squirm. if i can do that and be able to make a basic page without refering to notes then good
[12:41] <Kilos> you much more advanced than ill ever be man
[12:55] <Squirm> it teaches you everything
[12:55] <Squirm> from the ground up
[13:01] <JabberwockyA19> Kilos: also see http://www.codecademy.com/learn
[13:01] <Kilos> ok ty will do
[13:27] <Kilos> hi TaraLS  
[13:28] <Kilos> Squirm  help TaraLS  get a password going please
[13:28] <Kilos> like she forgot the old one
[13:29] <TaraLS> Oops
[13:29] <TaraLS> Hi peeps
[13:30] <Kilos> charl  yhelp man
[13:31] <Kilos> Maaz  google forgotten ubuntu password
[13:31] <Maaz> Kilos: "LostPassword - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword :: "Reset Your Forgotten Ubuntu Password in 2 Minutes or Less" http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-forgotten-ubuntu-password-in-2-minutes-or-less/ :: "How to reset your password in Ubuntu - psychocats.net"
[13:31] <Maaz> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword :: "How do I reset a lost administrative password? - Ask Ubuntu" htt…
[13:31] <TaraLS> Ooh, ty
[13:31] <Kilos> there TaraLS  one of them will tell how im sure
[13:32] <TaraLS> Ew it says I have to go into recovery mode
[13:33] <Kilos> all the links?
[13:33] <Kilos> Maaz  google How do I reset a lost administrative password? - Ask Ubuntu
[13:33] <Maaz> Kilos: "How do I reset a lost administrative password? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password :: "12.04 - how to reset a lost admin password? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/371634/how-to-reset-a-lost-admin-password :: "How do I reset my admin password - Ask Ubuntu"
[13:33] <Maaz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/407885/how-do-i-reset-my-admin-password :: "How to recover the root password on ubuntu …
[13:38] <TaraLS> Peeps are so quiet.
[13:39] <TaraLS> Anyhoo, I'm off Xchat for now. *wave*
[14:01] <Squirm> Kilos: if she can use sudo, or log in as root, then she can `sudo passwd <username>`
[14:01] <Squirm> and yeah... Recovery mode logs you in as root
[14:01] <Kilos> will thast let her change it Squirm  ?
[14:02] <Squirm> she has to be root
[14:02] <Kilos> you cant do that without the password i think hence recovery mode
[14:03] <Squirm> depends how you have sudo set up
[14:03] <Squirm> and if she remembers her root password she can change to root, through `su`
[14:03] <Kilos> wow
[14:03] <Kilos> she dont remember any password
[14:04] <Kilos> so no sudo at all
[14:04] <Squirm> recovery mode, you have to edit a boot option in grub, it then boots you into a root terminal, then you would first of all set your root password, with `passwd`, then set her user password
[14:04] <Kilos> no synaptic or update manager even
[14:05] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:05] <Kilos> but its working ok atm. 
[14:06] <Kilos> just needs a years updates
[14:12] <Squirm> I'm off. Going down to Port Shepstone to see the girlfriend
[14:12] <Squirm> chat to you all on Sunday
[14:14] <Kilos> go safe Squirm  
[14:26] <charl> ciao Squirm 
[16:08] <magespawn> good evening
[16:12] <Cantide> good night!
[16:12] <Cantide> after 1 am here!
[16:50] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[16:51] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[16:54] <Kilos> sorry i took so long. tara struggling with 12.10. wont accept her password even after resetting it in recovery mode
[16:55] <Kilos> now she gatvol and gone to bed
[16:57] <Symmetria> heh
[16:57] <Symmetria> so I got a 4K 40" TV as a monitor now
[16:58] <Symmetria> and decided to see what would happen bandwidth wise if I was watching 4K video off youtube
[16:58] <Symmetria> all I can say is, ISPs in ZA better do something about their bandwidth in a hurry before that becomes common place
[16:58] <Symmetria> it chews 25mbit/second on a single stream
[17:10] <charl> Symmetria: we were just discussing that the other day in fact
[17:11] <Symmetria> charl heh, 100 users = 2.5gigabit/second
[17:11] <Symmetria> and while here in Kenya on our new network, we've designed for that kinda thing 
[17:11] <Symmetria> ZA ISP's are gonna be in deep shit 
[17:11] <charl> 2,5gbps would be no problem here either
[17:12] <charl> i have 90mbps at home and 40gbps at work
[17:12] <Symmetria> charl except, isps typically dont have 100 users watching
[17:12] <Symmetria> its closer to 10k users
[17:12] <Symmetria> and thats a whole other story 
[17:12] <charl> yeah it's all scale
[17:12] <Symmetria> you're starting to reach into the realm of quater terabit and terabit style links
[17:12] <charl> of course, naturally
[17:12] <Symmetria> and considering the largest available circuit into a router is 100gig now
[17:12] <Symmetria> its ot easy
[17:13] <charl> look at the growth of traffic on the amsix/de-cix the last two years
[17:13] <charl> it's been in the news
[17:14] <charl> a month ago (in dutch unfortunately) http://tweakers.net/nieuws/98440/ams-ix-doorbreekt-grens-van-3tbit-s.html
[17:16] <charl> two years ago it was 2tbps http://tweakers.net/nieuws/85350/internetknooppunt-ams-ix-tikt-2tbps-aan.html
[17:16] <charl> it's grown by 1tbps in two years
[17:16] <charl> that's good growth, an increase of 50% over two years
[17:17] <charl> and two years before that it was 1tbps
[17:17] <charl> that sets a president to where we are heading
[17:19] <charl> and if you look at the de-cix right now, they are now going over 3tbps almost every day by the looks of it, as well
[18:00] <magespawn> that is a fair amount of information
[18:05] <gremble> o/
[18:11] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[18:11] <Kilos> night all.sleep tight
[19:03] <magespawn> good night all
[19:03] <magespawn> exit