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langithalo04:22
ObrienDaveGreetings & Welcome04:26
langitwhat good twitter client for xubuntu 14 bro?04:33
holsteinhttp://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-birdie-twitter-client-in-ubuntu-14-0404:34
holsteinhttp://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/07/install-corebird-ubuntu-ppa/04:34
holsteinhttp://jfnlinuxproject.blogspot.com/2014/05/5-twitter-clients-for-linux.html04:35
langitoke im try04:36
vrkalakdoes anyone when the new xubuntu-14.10 will be released ?  (expected release date)05:31
knosysI dont know. Does any one knows if LibreOffice temporary save files in case it get freezed?05:32
ObrienDavevrkalak, 23rd i think05:33
vrkalakDebian-testing is due to be 'frozen' ... not ubuntu or it's apps05:34
cfhowlettknosys, libreoffice does have /temp save functionality05:34
ObrienDavevrkalak, i'm testing final release candidates as we chat :)05:34
vrkalakObrienDave, it's only about a week ... i can live with that05:34
vrkalakthanks, ObrienDave05:35
knosyscfhowlett: do you know if its by default enabled? thanks05:35
cfhowlettknosys, > tools > options                   you can specify /temp save target05:35
knosyscfhowlett: when i restarted the application it autosuggested me to recover, nice05:49
knosysno harm done05:49
knosysthanks05:49
vrkalakObrienDave, <incogito>  I am an Admin and a 'spy' for Mint-Xfce05:58
ObrienDavevrkalak, LOL ok if you say so :)05:58
TondinahkHello everyone! I'd like to ask a question. I didn't find specific problem in the internet. So it's as follows:09:27
TondinahkWhen i create a new launcher from MenuLibre it creates it fine, shows it and i can reorder it edit aso. It saves the new launcher under .local/share/applications with a name "menulibre-lighttable.desktop". All the other files don't have "menulibre-" name. Anyway all is fine, but when i close the Menulibre and open MenuLibre again it won't show my newly created launcher anymore. It's present in start menu though but MenuLibre wont show it a09:30
Tondinahknd i can't edit it obviously anymore.09:30
TondinahkHope i don't preach any rules by typing a long question.09:30
TondinahkSystem application launchers or shortcuts are all stored under /usr/share/applications09:32
TondinahkMostly using default configuration of xubuntu 14.04 x64 with whisker menu and all.09:34
knomeTondinahk, it's designed that the launchers go into your home, because a regular user shouldn't touch the system launchers, only override them at the most extreme case09:51
knomeTondinahk, have you searched for that launcher in menulibre? are you sure it isn't shown somewhere else than where you created it? (that would be a bug as well i guess)09:52
knomeTondinahk, finally, especially if you can reproduce that, file a bug and i'll try to confirm it and we'll then forward it to the menulibre developer09:53
TondinahkWell WhiskerMenu shows it and i can search for it MenuLibre can't find it. I have tried to search for it under MenuLibre nothing.09:53
TondinahkI remember this problem way back already actually but i'm lazy to file the bugs.09:54
knomeok, in that case can you check if you can reproduce that with another launcher09:54
knomeand keep the file that isn't showing in menulibre in a safe place to attach it to the bug09:54
TondinahkYea funny i can create other launcher with a system command which works as expected. Trying another program which isn't installed in a system.09:57
akishi all. does anyone maybe know why 'weather update' is not working properly last days and gives 'no data' many hours during the day?09:59
knomeakis, i believe the weather sites have again updated their API so the applet can't get the data. a fix is on the way, but not sure when it will land10:03
akisknome: why the applet works for a while only and then stops?10:04
knomeakis, i don't know.10:05
alkethi, how to make windows to open at center , or better , to the last know position ?10:05
akisknome: do you think that is right to report this issue on "askubuntu"?10:06
knomeakis, well, it's known, and i don't know why you would "report" it on askubuntu10:06
knomeakis, askubuntu is not the place where developers look what bugs are filed/reported10:07
knomeakis, if you want to be helpful, file a bug in launchpad (though one might exist already)10:07
akisknome: ok. i though that developers read 'askubuntu'.10:08
knomethey might or might not, but that's definitely not the main source of their information10:08
Unit193LP: #1377612, xfce 1091610:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1377612 in Xfce4 weather plugin "[SRU] Plugin needs updated for locationforecast-1.2" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137761210:09
ubottuxfce bug 10916 in General "Plugin has to be updated or will soon stop working" [Normal,Reopened] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1091610:09
alkethey don't overshadow my question pls :p10:09
Unit193It's in proposed.10:09
akisknome: i tried already using google to find any discussion about this issue but i found nothing10:09
suncokrethello10:09
knomealket, you might want to look at gdevilspie10:09
Unit193akis: See links above.10:10
suncokretwhen i instaled Lubuntu i had windows xp sp2. Later i was replace windows xp sp2 (with norton ghost) with windows xp sp3 and i have error - when Lubuntu is starting there is message that it can't recognize partition where is windows and ask me if i want to wait or skip mounting, i used NTFS configuration tool and partition is mounted in system, but i still have that message when starting Lubuntu. How to fix this?10:10
knomesuncokret, this is not the lubuntu support channel.10:10
slickymasterWorkakis, Open up your software sources & enable the -proposed repo, then update sources. You should then see an update for xfce4-weather-plugin to 0.8.3-1ubuntu0.110:10
slickymasterWorkinstall it, then re-open your software sources & disable the proposed repo10:11
suncokretknome, it is same problem for xubuntu too10:11
Tondinahkknome there is a bug already for my problem (MenuLibre not showing custom launcher) but there's no reply and status is undecided.10:12
knomeTondinahk, please paste the bug number10:12
Tondinahkknome, yea sorry: 137398210:13
knomeTondinahk, if you can attach the .desktop file that isn't showing up in menulibre to the bug, that would be helpful10:14
knomeTondinahk, also the version of menulibre and xubuntu you are using10:14
Tondinahkknome, Okei, i'll try. Haven't filed bugs before. Just a comment with an attached file?10:14
knomeTondinahk, yep10:14
knomeTondinahk, you want to click the "add attachment or patch" link first, you can also write a comment there10:15
akisslickymasterWork: do i have to enable 'pre-released updates (tusty-proposed)'?10:15
slickymasterWorkyes akis, it will then prompt you for your password, enter it and reload your sources10:16
suncokretso, does somebody know how i can fix problem?10:17
cfhowlettsuncokret, this sounds like you used the ubuntu "windows" installer.  did you?10:20
akisslickymasterWork: do i have to download all the available software or just the 'weather information plugin'? can i disable 'pre-released updates' after i download plugin's update or should i leave it enable?10:21
sorinelloHello. Did anybody has an issue with LibreOffice crashing the Notification widget ?10:21
suncokretcfhowlett, i have double boot : lubuntu and xp10:22
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cfhowlettsuncokret, obviously you know that xp is DEAD^3 no security no support.  suggest you kill xp and install an ubuntu only machine10:25
suncokretdo you know how i can fix problem with message?10:26
cfhowlettsuncokret, no idea but ... using windows tools to manager your linux partitions is likely to cause problems.10:27
Tondinahkknome, okei replied to the bug topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menulibre/+bug/1373982 .10:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 1373982 in menulibre (Ubuntu) "MenuLibre won't show a new custom launcher after exiting" [Undecided,New]10:28
cfhowlettsuncokret, it's not reporting breakage, it's verifying partition = normal behavior.  my dual boot does the same thing.10:28
suncokreti didn't use windows tools, i used linux NTFC configuration tool10:29
suncokret*ntfs10:29
akisfixed. thank you for your advises!10:30
knomeTondinahk, cheers, i will try to get that confirmed soon10:31
Tondinahkthanks knome!10:31
cjdmHi, there.12:04
cjdmMy 64 bits Xubuntu installation does not recognise my 4GB of RAM.12:05
koegscjdm: do you have a integrated vga? some of the ram is used for it12:17
cjdmI have a GA-945GCM-S2L motherboard, http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2669#sp12:21
koegsand you do not use a seperate vga card?12:30
elfycjdm: how much of RAM does it recognise?12:32
cjdmelfy: 3 of 4GB12:33
cjdmkoegs: no.12:33
graybisI am installing Xubuntu and it says encrypt disk. What disk encryption does?12:45
koegsgraybis: dm-crypt12:47
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graybisIs proxychains supported by Xubuntu?12:49
koegscjdm: i would check the bios for an option to delegate some of the RAM to the vga chip12:49
koegsgraybis: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=proxychains12:49
cjdmkoegs: thanks, I think I should flash the BIOS.12:49
koegscjdm: why flash?12:50
cjdmkoegs: Because the version I have does not offer me many options, It's a little bit old, from 2008.12:51
WELLTHONalguem sabe me informar se o XUBUNTU 14.04 está disponivel em portugues brasil?14:39
cfhowlett!es | WELLTHON14:40
ubottuWELLTHON: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.14:40
GridCube!br WELLTHON14:44
GridCube!br | WELLTHON14:44
ubottuWELLTHON: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.14:44
* cfhowlett will someday learn to distinguish Spanish from Brazilian Portugues.14:51
xanguaHola cómo está voce today mi amigo cfhowlett14:53
Hedgeworkcfhowlett: Portuguese, whether from Brazil or Portugal, sounds vaguely more like Latin than Spanish does.  That's how I tell.14:53
GridCubexangua == trollmaster14:55
Hedgeworkheh14:56
slickymasterWorkHedgework: lol, I might disagree with you on that15:03
HedgeworkslickymasterWork: Oh?  What is your impression?15:04
Hedgework(note that I'm a Latin geek but I have no real working knowledge of Spanish or Portuguese)15:04
elfyHedgework probably doesn't know which bit of the Iberian Peninsula slickymasterWork hails from15:05
* Hedgework had no idea where slickymasterWork was from in general, aside from "probably Earth or thereabouts"15:05
slickymasterWorkwell, since I'm portuguese, and have a basic grasp of spanish, I would say that both idioms have a huge Latin influence and both equally sound Latin15:05
slickymasterWorklol15:05
HedgeworkInteresting.  Both are Romance languages (derived from Latin primarily), but I've always found that Portuguese felt vaguely closer than Spanish to me.15:06
slickymasterWorkthat would be due to the fact that you probably are used to ear/see spanish more than portuguese15:07
slickymasterWorks/ear/hear15:07
HedgeworkThat may be it.15:07
slickymasterWorkdam 'h' key15:07
slickymasterWork*damn15:07
xubuntu86whey! hello there, i have a question about skype. is there any audio filter for the mic? i mean, i use it in my netbook and it also gets the netbook sound, fans, hardisk... thanks!16:19
GridCubexubuntu86w, you can tune the microphone sensibility on pavucontrol settings16:20
carreraGreetings Everyone!  :)16:48
slickymasterWork|hi | carrera16:50
slickymasterWork!hi | carrera16:50
ubottucarrera: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!16:50
carreraI ran Xubuntu on my 18.4" Toshiba Qosmio for most of 201316:52
carreraand I loved it!16:52
carrerabut I don't like zeitgeist16:53
carreraso I moved to Debian Jessie and XFCE16:53
carrerabut I miss Xubuntu and wanna move back16:53
carrerais there any way to remove zeitgeist without screwing up the system?16:54
slickymasterWork!zeitgeist | carrera16:57
slickymasterWork!zeitgeist-core | carrera16:58
carreraslickymaster, thanks.  It seems like a lot of packages are tightly coupled with zeitgeist17:01
qwebirc92783Hi, someone know where to edit the size of the start button to get bigger icon ? my bottom bar is currently like that http://i.imgur.com/WuhCjQl.png18:09
GridCubeqwebirc92783, thats happening because you are using the option to have two rows in the panel, so the icon is setting itself to one of the rows18:16
GridCubei don't know of a way to avoid this18:17
qwebirc92783GridCube: Yes it is true, I use 2 rows, and if I use 1 row, all other plugins will be bigger And is not what I want.18:22
GridCubeqwebirc92783, you could fill a bug report to xfce4-panel and hope one day someone fixes that18:23
qwebirc92783where ?18:24
qwebirc92783on xfce or whiskermenu ?18:25
qwebirc92783GridCube: here is what I set in two way http://i.imgur.com/Mh88BzE.png http://i.imgur.com/FanVmdx.png18:26
GridCubemmm, i think its xfce, but maybe whiskersmenu can address the issue as well? i don't know, it might18:27
GridCubeoh, i remember the workaround we found last time this issue arised XD18:30
GridCubeit wasn't pretty18:30
GridCubeyou can add a panel containin just the launcher and set it to the bottom corner, then rezise the other panel to leave tha space empty to the other side and vualá18:31
qwebirc92783oh Yes !!!  GridCube you really SMARt !!!18:33
qwebirc92783thank you :))18:33
GridCubeyou still should report the bug qwebirc92783, its not an elegant solution18:35
qwebirc92783GridCube: yes true and the width is not perfect when I add both bar. One of the two bars is overlayed to the other or else it is too short.18:56
GridCubemmhm, yes18:57
GridCubenot elegant at all18:57
qwebirc92783GridCube: had to use a trick, adding an additional element (invisible space) containing the menu bar.18:59
qwebirc92783GridCube: Here is the final result. http://i.imgur.com/TIj8xDw.png19:01
qwebirc92783Nostalgia :)19:02
GridCubeqwebirc92783, look, i used 3 panels to make the bottom ponel thingy http://i.imgur.com/xGfIfaB.png19:08
GridCubewell gotta go, good luck qwebirc92783 :)19:11
batfastadHi everyone. Is there a way to increase the snapping distance of windows somewhere in XFCE?20:02
batfastadSometimes I find it difficult to drag to resize windows, especially with a touchpad20:03
Unit193batfastad: Settings Manager > Window Manager > Advanced.20:05
batfastadUnit193: Ah yes, saw that. On re-reading what I wrote that does as I asked.20:10
batfastadBut I think what I actually meant was is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of the mouse over the edges of windows to get the dragging handles? If that makes sense?20:11
Unit193batfastad: Perhaps you'd be interested in knowing of alt+drag?20:15
batfastadSometimes it's like the dragging handles are only available over a 1-2px margin over the window border, then the action of clicking the mouse moves the pointer off the border and makes it difficult to drag20:15
carreracan anyone tell me how to remove zeitgeist from xubuntu without breaking the system?20:15
Unit193carrera: sudo apt-get purge libzeitgeist* zeitgeist*20:16
batfastadUnit193: Aha, that's good for dragging. But I'm looking for help in resizing windows20:16
Unit193batfastad: Right, I meant to say right click to resize.  Sorry.20:17
carreraUnit193, thanks.  What about zeitgeist-core?   Doesn't that do all the logging?20:18
Unit193carrera: That'd get purged too.20:18
carreraAlso, doesn't anything in xubuntu depend on libzeitgeist20:19
Unit193Might, it'll ask you to confirm before it'll actually get rid of anything.20:19
carreraI know, for example, gEdit and Nautilus depend on libzeitgeist20:19
batfastadUnit193: Wow - you just blew my mind!! That. Is. Awesome!20:20
Unit193batfastad: Hah, glad I could help.20:20
Unit193carrera: Ah, since I use neither and they don't come by default, I wouldn't know about that.20:20
carreraUnit193, have you successfully removed zeitgeist from your system?20:20
Unit193Sure, I don't have it here.20:21
carreraAwesome!  :)20:21
batfastadUnit193: Thanks for your help - that's brilliant :D20:21
Unit193batfastad: Have a great day. :)20:21
carreracause I remember changing the look and feel of my ubuntu system when I tried to remove it in April 201420:22
carreraThat's when I moved to xubuntu20:22
carreraand I loved it, except after a couple of months, I noticed that the dreaded zeitgeist was there20:23
carreratoo20:23
carreraThen I moved to Debian Jessie + XFCE20:23
carrerabut I wanna move back to xubuntu20:24
carreraUnit193, why is zeitgeist included in xubuntu anyway?20:24
Unit193Because something Xubuntu ships with recommends or depends on it.20:25
carrerado you know what that some thing is?20:31
carreraI think Richard Stallman is not happy about zeitgeist20:32
carreraHe thinks Ubuntu is spying on people20:32
Unit193carrera: That's all fine and dandy for him, he's allowed.  But this really isn't the place for that, it's a support channel.20:34
carreraOkay!  :)20:36
carreraI have 2 SSD drives in my laptop.  Does xubuntu 14.04 or 14.10 iso include support for SoftRAID?20:38
carreraI think 14.04 is over 950 MB now20:38
xubuntu631hi ,xubuntu world!21:00
xubuntu631works!21:00
xubuntu631Ive installed xubuntu on this laptop, because the mashine is sloooow. I would like now to check the general info of the laptop in order to see if I can upgrade it.21:02
xubuntu631is there a grafic software to do this or should I use terminal?21:08
krytarik!info hardinfo | xubuntu63121:11
ubottuxubuntu631: hardinfo (source: hardinfo): Displays system information. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1.2ubuntu4 (trusty), package size 210 kB, installed size 486 kB21:11
Unit193lshw-gtk, but I like lshw better (and there's even an html page generator).21:12
xubuntu631thanx krytarik ! I run !info in Terminal. Hope to get somewhere...21:16
krytarikxubuntu631: That'd be "sudo apt-get install hardinfo" though, to install it. :)21:17
xubuntu631works! thanx krytarik21:22
mic-wAnybody got any ideas about the weather-applet not working the last few days?21:27
xubuntu631need to learn first what (where) is the RAM, is there a free slot to add one, will the mashine take it if i add one.21:27
pleia2mic-w: no ideas, but I had noticed it as well21:27
Unit193[06:09:15] < Unit193> LP: #1377612, xfce 1091621:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1377612 in Xfce4 weather plugin "[SRU] Plugin needs updated for locationforecast-1.2" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137761221:29
mic-wpleia2; Somebody on the ubuntuforums was saying about enabling the trusty proposed repo, doing an update, removing it, reinstalling after a reboot, then disabling the repo again; sound feasible?21:29
ubottuxfce bug 10916 in General "Plugin has to be updated or will soon stop working" [Normal,Reopened] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1091621:29
Unit193mic-w: Honestly?  I'd just pull the deb, easier.  Or, just wait for it to feed through proposed.21:30
mic-wHm! Sounds about right...21:30
pleia2thanks Unit193 :)21:30
Unit193pleia2: Sure.21:30
mic-wUnit193; you reckon it'd be esier to download the deb, yes?21:31
Unit193https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/0.8.3-1ubuntu0.1  That or wait for it to officially land, it should be about teseted enough.21:32
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mic-wUnit193; Hmm. I use my-weather-forecast on Unity in Ubuntu....I like the big digital clock. Won't run in xfce4, though. It'll install, but just won't run.21:38
Unit193I use a script of mine that uses the Wunderground API in conky, myself.21:39
mic-wUnit193; Huh, I tried Conky; had a little go at it for a few days, and gave up on it...too complicated!21:40
carreradoes xubuntu 14.04 iso have support for Software RAID?21:56
carreradoes anyone know if 14.04 has support for Software RAID?22:07
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qwebirc92783Hi GridCube22:42
GridCube:) hey qwebirc92783 you still around22:42
qwebirc92783I reported something about whisker menu, But I dont if is the right place22:43
qwebirc92783I don't know*22:43
qwebirc92783https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/+bug/138267622:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 1382676 in xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin (Ubuntu) "Size of the icon does not stretch to the height of the rows when I set 2 rows or more." [Undecided,New]22:44
qwebirc92783ubottu scared me.22:46
GridCubeqwebirc92783, sounds about right22:46
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qwebirc92783hehe :)22:46
GridCubeqwebirc92783, your bug report sound about right22:47
GridCubethough i say, thebug is on xfce4-panel22:48
qwebirc92783but to send a bug about xfce is pain because too many place (whisker github author, launchpad many place too, bugzilla.xfce.org)22:50
GridCubejust do ubuntu-bug xfce4-panel and let the software take care of that22:50
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qwebirc92783GridCube: I do not think this bug depends on the Panel because many plugins have the ability to change the frame size, as the Orage plugin.22:54
GridCubemm23:04
GridCubewell, you might be right :)23:04
carreracan anyone tell me what's the best way of installing 14.04 on a laptop with 2 SSDs but no hardware RAID23:25
carreradoes the amd64 ISO have Software RAID support?23:25
nico__any one on here using Intel NUC?23:59

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