[04:22] <langit> halo
[04:26] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[04:33] <langit> what good twitter client for xubuntu 14 bro?
[04:34] <holstein> http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-birdie-twitter-client-in-ubuntu-14-04
[04:34] <holstein> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/07/install-corebird-ubuntu-ppa/
[04:35] <holstein> http://jfnlinuxproject.blogspot.com/2014/05/5-twitter-clients-for-linux.html
[04:36] <langit> oke im try
[05:31] <vrkalak> does anyone when the new xubuntu-14.10 will be released ?  (expected release date)
[05:32] <knosys> I dont know. Does any one knows if LibreOffice temporary save files in case it get freezed?
[05:33] <ObrienDave> vrkalak, 23rd i think
[05:34] <vrkalak> Debian-testing is due to be 'frozen' ... not ubuntu or it's apps
[05:34] <cfhowlett> knosys, libreoffice does have /temp save functionality
[05:34] <ObrienDave> vrkalak, i'm testing final release candidates as we chat :)
[05:34] <vrkalak> ObrienDave, it's only about a week ... i can live with that
[05:35] <vrkalak> thanks, ObrienDave
[05:35] <knosys> cfhowlett: do you know if its by default enabled? thanks
[05:35] <cfhowlett> knosys, > tools > options                   you can specify /temp save target
[05:49] <knosys> cfhowlett: when i restarted the application it autosuggested me to recover, nice
[05:49] <knosys> no harm done
[05:49] <knosys> thanks
[05:58] <vrkalak> ObrienDave, <incogito>  I am an Admin and a 'spy' for Mint-Xfce
[05:58] <ObrienDave> vrkalak, LOL ok if you say so :)
[09:27] <Tondinahk> Hello everyone! I'd like to ask a question. I didn't find specific problem in the internet. So it's as follows:
[09:30] <Tondinahk> When i create a new launcher from MenuLibre it creates it fine, shows it and i can reorder it edit aso. It saves the new launcher under .local/share/applications with a name "menulibre-lighttable.desktop". All the other files don't have "menulibre-" name. Anyway all is fine, but when i close the Menulibre and open MenuLibre again it won't show my newly created launcher anymore. It's present in start menu though but MenuLibre wont show it a
[09:30] <Tondinahk> nd i can't edit it obviously anymore.
[09:30] <Tondinahk> Hope i don't preach any rules by typing a long question.
[09:32] <Tondinahk> System application launchers or shortcuts are all stored under /usr/share/applications
[09:34] <Tondinahk> Mostly using default configuration of xubuntu 14.04 x64 with whisker menu and all.
[09:51] <knome> Tondinahk, it's designed that the launchers go into your home, because a regular user shouldn't touch the system launchers, only override them at the most extreme case
[09:52] <knome> Tondinahk, have you searched for that launcher in menulibre? are you sure it isn't shown somewhere else than where you created it? (that would be a bug as well i guess)
[09:53] <knome> Tondinahk, finally, especially if you can reproduce that, file a bug and i'll try to confirm it and we'll then forward it to the menulibre developer
[09:53] <Tondinahk> Well WhiskerMenu shows it and i can search for it MenuLibre can't find it. I have tried to search for it under MenuLibre nothing.
[09:54] <Tondinahk> I remember this problem way back already actually but i'm lazy to file the bugs.
[09:54] <knome> ok, in that case can you check if you can reproduce that with another launcher
[09:54] <knome> and keep the file that isn't showing in menulibre in a safe place to attach it to the bug
[09:57] <Tondinahk> Yea funny i can create other launcher with a system command which works as expected. Trying another program which isn't installed in a system.
[09:59] <akis> hi all. does anyone maybe know why 'weather update' is not working properly last days and gives 'no data' many hours during the day?
[10:03] <knome> akis, i believe the weather sites have again updated their API so the applet can't get the data. a fix is on the way, but not sure when it will land
[10:04] <akis> knome: why the applet works for a while only and then stops?
[10:05] <knome> akis, i don't know.
[10:05] <alket> hi, how to make windows to open at center , or better , to the last know position ?
[10:06] <akis> knome: do you think that is right to report this issue on "askubuntu"?
[10:06] <knome> akis, well, it's known, and i don't know why you would "report" it on askubuntu
[10:07] <knome> akis, askubuntu is not the place where developers look what bugs are filed/reported
[10:07] <knome> akis, if you want to be helpful, file a bug in launchpad (though one might exist already)
[10:08] <akis> knome: ok. i though that developers read 'askubuntu'.
[10:08] <knome> they might or might not, but that's definitely not the main source of their information
[10:09] <Unit193> LP: #1377612, xfce 10916
[10:09] <alket> hey don't overshadow my question pls :p
[10:09] <Unit193> It's in proposed.
[10:09] <akis> knome: i tried already using google to find any discussion about this issue but i found nothing
[10:09] <suncokret> hello
[10:09] <knome> alket, you might want to look at gdevilspie
[10:10] <Unit193> akis: See links above.
[10:10] <suncokret> when i instaled Lubuntu i had windows xp sp2. Later i was replace windows xp sp2 (with norton ghost) with windows xp sp3 and i have error - when Lubuntu is starting there is message that it can't recognize partition where is windows and ask me if i want to wait or skip mounting, i used NTFS configuration tool and partition is mounted in system, but i still have that message when starting Lubuntu. How to fix this?
[10:10] <knome> suncokret, this is not the lubuntu support channel.
[10:10] <slickymasterWork> akis, Open up your software sources & enable the -proposed repo, then update sources. You should then see an update for xfce4-weather-plugin to 0.8.3-1ubuntu0.1
[10:11] <slickymasterWork> install it, then re-open your software sources & disable the proposed repo
[10:11] <suncokret> knome, it is same problem for xubuntu too
[10:12] <Tondinahk> knome there is a bug already for my problem (MenuLibre not showing custom launcher) but there's no reply and status is undecided.
[10:12] <knome> Tondinahk, please paste the bug number
[10:13] <Tondinahk> knome, yea sorry: 1373982
[10:14] <knome> Tondinahk, if you can attach the .desktop file that isn't showing up in menulibre to the bug, that would be helpful
[10:14] <knome> Tondinahk, also the version of menulibre and xubuntu you are using
[10:14] <Tondinahk> knome, Okei, i'll try. Haven't filed bugs before. Just a comment with an attached file?
[10:14] <knome> Tondinahk, yep
[10:15] <knome> Tondinahk, you want to click the "add attachment or patch" link first, you can also write a comment there
[10:15] <akis> slickymasterWork: do i have to enable 'pre-released updates (tusty-proposed)'?
[10:16] <slickymasterWork> yes akis, it will then prompt you for your password, enter it and reload your sources
[10:17] <suncokret> so, does somebody know how i can fix problem?
[10:20] <cfhowlett> suncokret, this sounds like you used the ubuntu "windows" installer.  did you?
[10:21] <akis> slickymasterWork: do i have to download all the available software or just the 'weather information plugin'? can i disable 'pre-released updates' after i download plugin's update or should i leave it enable?
[10:21] <sorinello> Hello. Did anybody has an issue with LibreOffice crashing the Notification widget ?
[10:22] <suncokret> cfhowlett, i have double boot : lubuntu and xp
[10:25] <cfhowlett> suncokret, obviously you know that xp is DEAD^3 no security no support.  suggest you kill xp and install an ubuntu only machine
[10:26] <suncokret> do you know how i can fix problem with message?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> suncokret, no idea but ... using windows tools to manager your linux partitions is likely to cause problems.
[10:28] <Tondinahk> knome, okei replied to the bug topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menulibre/+bug/1373982 .
[10:28] <cfhowlett> suncokret, it's not reporting breakage, it's verifying partition = normal behavior.  my dual boot does the same thing.
[10:29] <suncokret> i didn't use windows tools, i used linux NTFC configuration tool
[10:29] <suncokret> *ntfs
[10:30] <akis> fixed. thank you for your advises!
[10:31] <knome> Tondinahk, cheers, i will try to get that confirmed soon
[10:31] <Tondinahk> thanks knome!
[12:04] <cjdm> Hi, there.
[12:05] <cjdm> My 64 bits Xubuntu installation does not recognise my 4GB of RAM.
[12:17] <koegs> cjdm: do you have a integrated vga? some of the ram is used for it
[12:21] <cjdm> I have a GA-945GCM-S2L motherboard, http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2669#sp
[12:30] <koegs> and you do not use a seperate vga card?
[12:32] <elfy> cjdm: how much of RAM does it recognise?
[12:33] <cjdm> elfy: 3 of 4GB
[12:33] <cjdm> koegs: no.
[12:45] <graybis> I am installing Xubuntu and it says encrypt disk. What disk encryption does?
[12:47] <koegs> graybis: dm-crypt
[12:49] <graybis> Is proxychains supported by Xubuntu?
[12:49] <koegs> cjdm: i would check the bios for an option to delegate some of the RAM to the vga chip
[12:49] <koegs> graybis: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=proxychains
[12:49] <cjdm> koegs: thanks, I think I should flash the BIOS.
[12:50] <koegs> cjdm: why flash?
[12:51] <cjdm> koegs: Because the version I have does not offer me many options, It's a little bit old, from 2008.
[14:39] <WELLTHON> alguem sabe me informar se o XUBUNTU 14.04 está disponivel em portugues brasil?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !es | WELLTHON
[14:44] <GridCube> !br WELLTHON
[14:44] <GridCube> !br | WELLTHON
[14:51]  * cfhowlett will someday learn to distinguish Spanish from Brazilian Portugues.
[14:53] <xangua> Hola cómo está voce today mi amigo cfhowlett
[14:53] <Hedgework> cfhowlett: Portuguese, whether from Brazil or Portugal, sounds vaguely more like Latin than Spanish does.  That's how I tell.
[14:55] <GridCube> xangua == trollmaster
[14:56] <Hedgework> heh
[15:03] <slickymasterWork> Hedgework: lol, I might disagree with you on that
[15:04] <Hedgework> slickymasterWork: Oh?  What is your impression?
[15:04] <Hedgework> (note that I'm a Latin geek but I have no real working knowledge of Spanish or Portuguese)
[15:05] <elfy> Hedgework probably doesn't know which bit of the Iberian Peninsula slickymasterWork hails from
[15:05]  * Hedgework had no idea where slickymasterWork was from in general, aside from "probably Earth or thereabouts"
[15:05] <slickymasterWork> well, since I'm portuguese, and have a basic grasp of spanish, I would say that both idioms have a huge Latin influence and both equally sound Latin
[15:05] <slickymasterWork> lol
[15:06] <Hedgework> Interesting.  Both are Romance languages (derived from Latin primarily), but I've always found that Portuguese felt vaguely closer than Spanish to me.
[15:07] <slickymasterWork> that would be due to the fact that you probably are used to ear/see spanish more than portuguese
[15:07] <slickymasterWork> s/ear/hear
[15:07] <Hedgework> That may be it.
[15:07] <slickymasterWork> dam 'h' key
[15:07] <slickymasterWork> *damn
[16:19] <xubuntu86w> hey! hello there, i have a question about skype. is there any audio filter for the mic? i mean, i use it in my netbook and it also gets the netbook sound, fans, hardisk... thanks!
[16:20] <GridCube> xubuntu86w, you can tune the microphone sensibility on pavucontrol settings
[16:48] <carrera> Greetings Everyone!  :)
[16:50] <slickymasterWork> |hi | carrera
[16:50] <slickymasterWork> !hi | carrera
[16:52] <carrera> I ran Xubuntu on my 18.4" Toshiba Qosmio for most of 2013
[16:52] <carrera> and I loved it!
[16:53] <carrera> but I don't like zeitgeist
[16:53] <carrera> so I moved to Debian Jessie and XFCE
[16:53] <carrera> but I miss Xubuntu and wanna move back
[16:54] <carrera> is there any way to remove zeitgeist without screwing up the system?
[16:57] <slickymasterWork> !zeitgeist | carrera
[16:58] <slickymasterWork> !zeitgeist-core | carrera
[17:01] <carrera> slickymaster, thanks.  It seems like a lot of packages are tightly coupled with zeitgeist
[18:09] <qwebirc92783> Hi, someone know where to edit the size of the start button to get bigger icon ? my bottom bar is currently like that http://i.imgur.com/WuhCjQl.png
[18:16] <GridCube> qwebirc92783, thats happening because you are using the option to have two rows in the panel, so the icon is setting itself to one of the rows
[18:17] <GridCube> i don't know of a way to avoid this
[18:22] <qwebirc92783> GridCube: Yes it is true, I use 2 rows, and if I use 1 row, all other plugins will be bigger And is not what I want.
[18:23] <GridCube> qwebirc92783, you could fill a bug report to xfce4-panel and hope one day someone fixes that
[18:24] <qwebirc92783> where ?
[18:25] <qwebirc92783> on xfce or whiskermenu ?
[18:26] <qwebirc92783> GridCube: here is what I set in two way http://i.imgur.com/Mh88BzE.png http://i.imgur.com/FanVmdx.png
[18:27] <GridCube> mmm, i think its xfce, but maybe whiskersmenu can address the issue as well? i don't know, it might
[18:30] <GridCube> oh, i remember the workaround we found last time this issue arised XD
[18:30] <GridCube> it wasn't pretty
[18:31] <GridCube> you can add a panel containin just the launcher and set it to the bottom corner, then rezise the other panel to leave tha space empty to the other side and vualá
[18:33] <qwebirc92783> oh Yes !!!  GridCube you really SMARt !!!
[18:33] <qwebirc92783> thank you :))
[18:35] <GridCube> you still should report the bug qwebirc92783, its not an elegant solution
[18:56] <qwebirc92783> GridCube: yes true and the width is not perfect when I add both bar. One of the two bars is overlayed to the other or else it is too short.
[18:57] <GridCube> mmhm, yes
[18:57] <GridCube> not elegant at all
[18:59] <qwebirc92783> GridCube: had to use a trick, adding an additional element (invisible space) containing the menu bar.
[19:01] <qwebirc92783> GridCube: Here is the final result. http://i.imgur.com/TIj8xDw.png
[19:02] <qwebirc92783> Nostalgia :)
[19:08] <GridCube> qwebirc92783, look, i used 3 panels to make the bottom ponel thingy http://i.imgur.com/xGfIfaB.png
[19:11] <GridCube> well gotta go, good luck qwebirc92783 :)
[20:02] <batfastad> Hi everyone. Is there a way to increase the snapping distance of windows somewhere in XFCE?
[20:03] <batfastad> Sometimes I find it difficult to drag to resize windows, especially with a touchpad
[20:05] <Unit193> batfastad: Settings Manager > Window Manager > Advanced.
[20:10] <batfastad> Unit193: Ah yes, saw that. On re-reading what I wrote that does as I asked.
[20:11] <batfastad> But I think what I actually meant was is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of the mouse over the edges of windows to get the dragging handles? If that makes sense?
[20:15] <Unit193> batfastad: Perhaps you'd be interested in knowing of alt+drag?
[20:15] <batfastad> Sometimes it's like the dragging handles are only available over a 1-2px margin over the window border, then the action of clicking the mouse moves the pointer off the border and makes it difficult to drag
[20:15] <carrera> can anyone tell me how to remove zeitgeist from xubuntu without breaking the system?
[20:16] <Unit193> carrera: sudo apt-get purge libzeitgeist* zeitgeist*
[20:16] <batfastad> Unit193: Aha, that's good for dragging. But I'm looking for help in resizing windows
[20:17] <Unit193> batfastad: Right, I meant to say right click to resize.  Sorry.
[20:18] <carrera> Unit193, thanks.  What about zeitgeist-core?   Doesn't that do all the logging?
[20:18] <Unit193> carrera: That'd get purged too.
[20:19] <carrera> Also, doesn't anything in xubuntu depend on libzeitgeist
[20:19] <Unit193> Might, it'll ask you to confirm before it'll actually get rid of anything.
[20:19] <carrera> I know, for example, gEdit and Nautilus depend on libzeitgeist
[20:20] <batfastad> Unit193: Wow - you just blew my mind!! That. Is. Awesome!
[20:20] <Unit193> batfastad: Hah, glad I could help.
[20:20] <Unit193> carrera: Ah, since I use neither and they don't come by default, I wouldn't know about that.
[20:20] <carrera> Unit193, have you successfully removed zeitgeist from your system?
[20:21] <Unit193> Sure, I don't have it here.
[20:21] <carrera> Awesome!  :)
[20:21] <batfastad> Unit193: Thanks for your help - that's brilliant :D
[20:21] <Unit193> batfastad: Have a great day. :)
[20:22] <carrera> cause I remember changing the look and feel of my ubuntu system when I tried to remove it in April 2014
[20:22] <carrera> That's when I moved to xubuntu
[20:23] <carrera> and I loved it, except after a couple of months, I noticed that the dreaded zeitgeist was there
[20:23] <carrera> too
[20:23] <carrera> Then I moved to Debian Jessie + XFCE
[20:24] <carrera> but I wanna move back to xubuntu
[20:24] <carrera> Unit193, why is zeitgeist included in xubuntu anyway?
[20:25] <Unit193> Because something Xubuntu ships with recommends or depends on it.
[20:31] <carrera> do you know what that some thing is?
[20:32] <carrera> I think Richard Stallman is not happy about zeitgeist
[20:32] <carrera> He thinks Ubuntu is spying on people
[20:34] <Unit193> carrera: That's all fine and dandy for him, he's allowed.  But this really isn't the place for that, it's a support channel.
[20:36] <carrera> Okay!  :)
[20:38] <carrera> I have 2 SSD drives in my laptop.  Does xubuntu 14.04 or 14.10 iso include support for SoftRAID?
[20:38] <carrera> I think 14.04 is over 950 MB now
[21:00] <xubuntu631> hi ,xubuntu world!
[21:00] <xubuntu631> works!
[21:02] <xubuntu631> Ive installed xubuntu on this laptop, because the mashine is sloooow. I would like now to check the general info of the laptop in order to see if I can upgrade it.
[21:08] <xubuntu631> is there a grafic software to do this or should I use terminal?
[21:11] <krytarik> !info hardinfo | xubuntu631
[21:12] <Unit193> lshw-gtk, but I like lshw better (and there's even an html page generator).
[21:16] <xubuntu631> thanx krytarik ! I run !info in Terminal. Hope to get somewhere...
[21:17] <krytarik> xubuntu631: That'd be "sudo apt-get install hardinfo" though, to install it. :)
[21:22] <xubuntu631> works! thanx krytarik
[21:27] <mic-w> Anybody got any ideas about the weather-applet not working the last few days?
[21:27] <xubuntu631> need to learn first what (where) is the RAM, is there a free slot to add one, will the mashine take it if i add one.
[21:27] <pleia2> mic-w: no ideas, but I had noticed it as well
[21:29] <Unit193> [06:09:15] < Unit193> LP: #1377612, xfce 10916
[21:29] <mic-w> pleia2; Somebody on the ubuntuforums was saying about enabling the trusty proposed repo, doing an update, removing it, reinstalling after a reboot, then disabling the repo again; sound feasible?
[21:30] <Unit193> mic-w: Honestly?  I'd just pull the deb, easier.  Or, just wait for it to feed through proposed.
[21:30] <mic-w> Hm! Sounds about right...
[21:30] <pleia2> thanks Unit193 :)
[21:30] <Unit193> pleia2: Sure.
[21:31] <mic-w> Unit193; you reckon it'd be esier to download the deb, yes?
[21:32] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/0.8.3-1ubuntu0.1  That or wait for it to officially land, it should be about teseted enough.
[21:38] <mic-w> Unit193; Hmm. I use my-weather-forecast on Unity in Ubuntu....I like the big digital clock. Won't run in xfce4, though. It'll install, but just won't run.
[21:39] <Unit193> I use a script of mine that uses the Wunderground API in conky, myself.
[21:40] <mic-w> Unit193; Huh, I tried Conky; had a little go at it for a few days, and gave up on it...too complicated!
[21:56] <carrera> does xubuntu 14.04 iso have support for Software RAID?
[22:07] <carrera> does anyone know if 14.04 has support for Software RAID?
[22:42] <qwebirc92783> Hi GridCube
[22:42] <GridCube> :) hey qwebirc92783 you still around
[22:43] <qwebirc92783> I reported something about whisker menu, But I dont if is the right place
[22:43] <qwebirc92783> I don't know*
[22:44] <qwebirc92783> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/+bug/1382676
[22:46] <qwebirc92783> ubottu scared me.
[22:46] <GridCube> qwebirc92783, sounds about right
[22:46] <GridCube> !bot | qwebirc92783
[22:46] <qwebirc92783> hehe :)
[22:47] <GridCube> qwebirc92783, your bug report sound about right
[22:48] <GridCube> though i say, thebug is on xfce4-panel
[22:50] <qwebirc92783> but to send a bug about xfce is pain because too many place (whisker github author, launchpad many place too, bugzilla.xfce.org)
[22:50] <GridCube> just do ubuntu-bug xfce4-panel and let the software take care of that
[22:54] <qwebirc92783> GridCube: I do not think this bug depends on the Panel because many plugins have the ability to change the frame size, as the Orage plugin.
[23:04] <GridCube> mm
[23:04] <GridCube> well, you might be right :)
[23:25] <carrera> can anyone tell me what's the best way of installing 14.04 on a laptop with 2 SSDs but no hardware RAID
[23:25] <carrera> does the amd64 ISO have Software RAID support?
[23:59] <nico__> any one on here using Intel NUC?