[07:24] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[18:56] <maxb> Hmm, that's not so promising - this close to release and do-release-upgrade crashed with UnboundLocalError: local variable 'e' referenced before assignment
[18:57] <maxb> Looks to be bug 1347834
[18:59] <maxb> Yikes, how is this not affecting everyone?
[19:01] <maxb> Hmm, no, this is quite interesting actually
[19:10] <maxb> Oh, I get it, it IS a coding error, but it only triggers if the upgrader fails to fetch apt indices three times
[19:52] <alvin> Well, I tried to upgrade and failed (partly). do-release-upgrade -d. Everything went well until the last step. Do you want to delete these packages.... No way to type 'Y' or anything else. It just gave me back my prompt every time. Ok, log in on other TTY. systemd started throwing crap and kept throwing crap at me on every TTY. scrolled by so fast I could't quite read what it said. And that's it.
[19:53] <alvin> If I understand correctly, 14.10 will not use systemd by default, but it CAN already screw you.
[19:56] <mozzarella> will 15.04 use systemd?
[21:17] <KnightKiller> hello the NetworkManager is broken after doing an upgrading to 14.10. I used wicd instead but that's no really a solution since it doesn't manage UMTS sticks
[21:19] <KnightKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8587193/
[21:19] <KnightKiller> here is the syslog part of the NetworkManager
[21:22] <KnightKiller> and when i mean broken, i mean that nm-applet doesn't show anything
[21:22] <KnightKiller> it says no network devices available
[21:23] <KnightKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8587208/
[21:24] <KnightKiller> here is launching nm-applet from a terminal
[21:26] <KnightKiller> also nmcli d list and nmcli d status return nothing
[21:29] <KnightKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8587234/
[21:29] <KnightKiller> here is the NetworkManager.conf and the interfaces
[21:33] <KnightKiller> any ideas why it doesn't work anymore?
[21:35] <KnightKiller> i also completely purged the packages twice
[21:44] <vitimiti> Hi
[21:45] <KnightKiller> also the affected versions are 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7 for network-manager-gnome
[21:46] <KnightKiller> and 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu28 for network-manager
[21:48] <KnightKiller> according to /var/lib/NetworkManager last time the NetworkManager worked(because i got a lease) was the 3rd October
[21:48] <KnightKiller> hello vitimiti
[21:49] <vitimiti> Hello, KnightKiller
[21:49] <KnightKiller> then I think i switched to wicd
[21:50] <KnightKiller> maybe if i uninstall this version of NetworkManager and try to install the stable version of 14.04?
[21:51] <vitimiti> What's the issue?
[21:54] <KnightKiller> the NetworkManager is broken after doing an upgrading to 14.10. I used wicd instead but that's no really a solution since it doesn't manage UMTS sticks
[21:54] <KnightKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8587193/
[21:54] <KnightKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8587208/
[21:54] <KnightKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8587234/
[21:54] <KnightKiller> and when i mean broken, i mean that nm-applet doesn't show anything
[21:54] <KnightKiller> it says no network devices available
[21:54] <KnightKiller> !last
[21:55] <KnightKiller> !last
[21:55] <KnightKiller> oh what was the last message?
[21:56] <KnightKiller> uninstalling network-manaer also kills network even if he doesn't manage it
[21:56] <KnightKiller> lol
[21:56] <Mikaela> that is interesting issue
[21:58] <Mikaela> I am currently stuck with network-manager as I use systemd and it had weird issue on one host of always using DHCP regardless of what /etc/network/interfaces said, but I got that fixed by excluding the MAC address. Currently network-manager does nothing there, but I cannot remove it.
[21:59] <vitimiti> I haven't had an issue like those ever, I can't really help here
[21:59] <KnightKiller> well i'm going to get the 14.04 packages
[21:59] <KnightKiller> maybe that will help
[22:07] <KnightKiller> ok old packages are installed time for restart
[22:16] <KnightKiller> I'm back
[22:16] <KnightKiller> so the problem is still there
[22:17] <KnightKiller> but i noticed a different behavior now.
[22:17] <KnightKiller> network-manager 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7 tried to configure the eth0 interface by trying dhcp on it
[22:18] <KnightKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8587498/
[22:18] <KnightKiller> here you can see the difference
[22:18] <vitimiti> Maybe there's another package creating problems? Since you are using Utopic and the networkmanager package from Trusty isn't working yet, there may be something else
[22:20] <KnightKiller> the gui still says no network devices available
[22:20] <KnightKiller> BUT
[22:20] <KnightKiller> it shows a busy circle thing and when i hover over it says getting Ip for eth0 or something like that
[22:21] <KnightKiller> but the menus still show no devices
[22:21] <KnightKiller> what other packages might cause trouble?
[22:49] <vitimiti> Bye
[22:50] <KnightKiller> so i updated again to the utopic version of the packages
[22:50] <KnightKiller> and with a dhcp server running eth0 gets configured
[22:51] <KnightKiller> but nm-applet still isn't working
[22:51] <KnightKiller> showing no devices
[22:51] <KnightKiller> even in a guest session
[22:51] <KnightKiller> i thought that it maybe was an issue with the profile or something
[22:53] <KnightKiller> oh i get another error that i didn't get previously when running nm-applet in the terminal: (nm-applet:3990): libnm-glib-CRITICAL **: nm_secret_agent_register: assertion 'priv->registered == FALSE' failed
[22:54] <KnightKiller> also funny thing: if i right click the icon (which shows connected wired and when i hover it it says i'm connected) and click on connection information it says:
[22:55] <KnightKiller> Error displaying connection information: no valid active connections found!
[22:55] <KnightKiller> :DDDDDDDD
[22:56] <KnightKiller> i mean even though the icon says that i'm connected and network-manager just magically connected me
[22:57] <KnightKiller> i mean i didn't configure that
[22:57] <KnightKiller> maybe network-manager has some broken settings somewhere?
[22:58] <KnightKiller> i mean it says in german "Kabelnetzwerk Verbindung 1" where does he get that name for the connection from?
[22:58] <KnightKiller> and i deleted /etc/NetworkManager and /var/lib/NetworkManager
[22:58] <KnightKiller> after i purged the packages
[22:58] <KnightKiller> where does he still get these things from?
[22:59] <KnightKiller> there must be other files that still survive the pruge
[23:03] <KnightKiller> when displying the connection information:
[23:03] <KnightKiller> (nm-applet:3990): nm-applet-WARNING **: info_dialog_update: couldn't find the default active connection's NMConnection!
[23:11] <KnightKiller> I just don't know what to do anymore
[23:11] <KnightKiller> i tried everything
[23:31] <KnightKiller> IT WORKS!
[23:31] <KnightKiller> I purged all the other libnm and related packages as well
[23:31] <KnightKiller> and now it works again
[23:31] <KnightKiller> fuck yeah :3
[23:33] <KnightKiller> so vitimiti was right
[23:33] <KnightKiller> it was another package that was causing the issues
[23:37] <KnightKiller2> fuck yeah
[23:37] <KnightKiller2> even my modem works
[23:51] <AndroUser> Hey guys, after I upgraded to 14.10, my lightdm isn't starting anymore, would you suggest where to start tracing?
[23:52] <KnightKiller3> are you typing this from irssi?
[23:54] <AndroUser> No, from AndroIRC
[23:55] <KnightKiller3> so are you using Lubuntu? or did you use a normal ubuntu installation and switched to lightdm?
[23:56] <AndroUser> Normal ubuntu installation
[23:56] <AndroUser> I may br
[23:56] <AndroUser> I maybe using the wrong term
[23:56] <KnightKiller3> alright
[23:56] <AndroUser> I am just trying to get unity working
[23:57] <KnightKiller3> oh alright.
[23:58] <KnightKiller3> so you had unity upgraded and no you are sitting at the console after a restart?
[23:58] <KnightKiller3> correct?
[23:58] <AndroUser> Yes