[04:38] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:49] <inetpro> good morning Kilos and others
[08:04] <Kilos> morning inetpro  
[08:04] <Kilos> i was scratching in stored stuff and found some cotton seeds
[08:05] <Kilos> forgot we grew them an utrecht as well
[08:05] <Kilos> good for dairy cows
[08:06] <Kilos> when you have time can we look what ive done wrong with local minetest
[08:06] <Kilos> cant get it to boot
[08:08] <Kilos> and didnt save how to make the StartMining command work
[08:23] <charl> good morning
[08:23] <charl> hi inetpro, Kilos 
[08:24] <Kilos> hi charl  
[08:35] <magespawn> howdy all
[08:39] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[08:39] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[08:39] <Kilos> hi man not hey
[08:39] <Kilos> charl  tell him
[08:44] <magespawn> horses eat it Kilos it has to be good
[08:44] <magespawn> hay at least
[08:44] <Kilos> no man
[08:44] <Kilos> hey is getho slang from the states
[08:44] <Kilos> ghetto
[08:44] <magespawn> is there any downside to running 64 bit software on x86 hardware?
[08:45] <Kilos> ?
[08:45] <Kilos> try it
[08:46] <magespawn> i am setting up a new asterisk server, and i want to use ubuntu instead of centOS, but it looks like the server only comes in 64 bit now
[08:47] <magespawn> don't really want to do all the work to find it is going create complications later
[08:47] <gremble> According to wikipedia x86 was introduced as 64bit in 2003
[08:47] <gremble> Depends on how old the hardware is then I suppose
[08:48] <gremble> x86 is a type of backward compatible instruction set
[08:49] <Kilos> no magespawn  i have server in 32bit
[08:49] <magespawn> let me check gremble
[08:50] <magespawn> Kilos, cannot find 32 on the ubuntu site
[08:50] <Kilos> Maaz  google ubuntu server 32bit iso
[08:50] <Maaz> Kilos: "Download Ubuntu Server | Download | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server :: "Alternative downloads | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads :: "Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)" http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ :: "Download Ubuntu Desktop | Download | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop :: "Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[08:50] <Maaz> (Trusty Tahr)" http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ :: "Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal)" http…
[08:50] <Kilos> i got it a few weeks ago magespawn  
[08:51] <Kilos> oh my where did i download it from
[08:52] <Kilos> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.1-server-i386.iso
[08:52] <Kilos> magespawn  ^^
[08:53] <gremble> What makes ubuntu server different from desktop?
[08:53] <Kilos> no gui and all the server stuff is there already
[08:54] <Kilos> but you see a gui when installing
[08:54] <magespawn> text based installer
[08:54] <Kilos> lol once installed you hit text mode
[08:55] <gremble> Text based installers it not new to me :P I am more curious about the server stuff
[08:55] <Kilos> but using ssh to it works lekker
[08:55] <gremble> I know practically nothing about networking and setting up servers
[08:56] <Kilos> there is a guide gremble  
[08:56] <Kilos> lemme check
[08:56] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide
[08:57] <gremble> I will go have a look-see
[08:58] <Kilos> very interesting if you understand all that stuff
[08:58] <gremble> Sort of like most things in life :P
[09:01] <magespawn> gremble it is very useful for running computers that do not need a gui, so what i am going to doing s using it to run a lodges phones
[09:02] <gremble> VOIP?
[09:04] <magespawn> yes amongst other things, using this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk_%28PBX%29
[09:05] <gremble> Oh ok
[09:05] <gremble> Cool
[09:06] <magespawn> i accept incoming calls through telkom usually, outgoing through VoIP and cellular and telkom, usually in that order
[09:06] <gremble> Vodacom recently won a court case that allows them to charch R10 per MB on voip
[09:06] <gremble> How fucked up is that?
[09:07] <magespawn> that means they have do some sort of packet inspection going out, which raises privacy questions
[09:08] <magespawn> it would be interesting to see if they can do it if the traffic is encrypted
[09:08] <gremble> All our ISP's do packet inspection
[09:08] <gremble> Mweb had a promotion on faster social media a while back if I recall correctly
[09:08] <gremble> and that is an even deeper inspection than just what protocal is being used
[09:09] <magespawn> yup and cell c is making whatsapp free
[09:09] <gremble> If you encrypt it using tor or something, it looks like TLS/SSL
[09:09] <gremble> so that should be fine
[09:12] <gremble> I think that the worst failing of the human condition is the protection of the status quo
[09:12] <gremble> We are too afraid of change and movement
[09:13] <Symmetria> hrm
[09:13] <Symmetria> testing netflix with 4k video
[09:13] <Symmetria> its eating 16 - 20mbit
[09:13] <Symmetria> which aint bad
[09:13] <gremble> Your eyes can only see 16fps anyway, so I dunno why you do dis
[09:14] <Symmetria> errrr, what the hell does frames per second have to do with the resolution of the video?
[09:14] <gremble> Nothing, Im trolling. Or rather.. trying
[09:14] <Symmetria> you're failing :P
[09:15] <gremble> I'm never able to go through with it
[09:15] <gremble> Saying things as stupid as that hurts my brain
[09:15] <Symmetria> heh I have to say, Im impressed at just how smoothly netflix plays even at these resolutions
[09:15] <magespawn> i thought it was 26
[09:16] <gremble> Your eyes don't actually see in frames per second. So you cannot really compare
[09:16] <gremble> Do you have a 4k screen Symmetria ?
[09:16] <Symmetria> gremble yeah I got a 4K 40" as one of the monitors on my pc, but its also a smart tv so watch netflix on it directly with the app 
[09:16] <gremble> :Q
[09:17] <Symmetria> unotelly ftw to bypass geographic restrictions
[09:34] <Kilos> hmm... peer got him
[09:56] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:56]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[10:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[10:03] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[10:03] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[10:04] <charl> Symmetria: which monitor do you have exactly (if i may ask)?
[10:04] <charl> make/model
[10:47] <Symmetria> charl its a samsung 40" smart tv, the series 7 
[10:47] <Symmetria> cant remeber exact model number
[11:07] <Symmetria> I want a new gopro hero 4+ 
[11:07] <Symmetria> 4k gopro ftw ;p
[11:10] <Symmetria> 8k on pre-order
[15:02] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[15:02]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[15:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:06] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[15:06] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[16:51] <charl> good evening
[16:51] <charl> hi Kilos 
[16:52] <Kilos> hi charl  
[16:52] <charl> got my new tv today
[16:52] <Kilos> lekker
[16:52] <charl> salora 39" edge lit lcd
[16:52] <charl> cost me about 255 euro, which i think was a good price for a 39"
[16:52] <Kilos> sjoe i thought geeks dont do tv
[16:52] <charl> it was 299 but i got an extra 15% off
[16:53] <charl> i use it as an external screen
[16:53] <charl> got it connected to my laptop at the moment via vga
[16:53] <Kilos> haha
[16:53] <Kilos> ok
[17:01] <charl> if you want i can show you a picture but not sure if you can view pictures there with your data
[17:30] <Kilos> ya charl  you can as long as its not a 30m pic
[17:30] <Kilos> up to 5 meg is fine
[17:31] <charl> ah ok
[17:35] <Kilos> ok what?
[17:35] <Kilos> if its bigger gimp it or shotwell
[17:37] <charl> one sec
[17:39] <Kilos> lol
[17:39] <Kilos> no rush
[17:39] <charl> sorry i am having dinner here and doing everything at the same time :)
[17:40] <charl> multitasking isn't my thing
[17:40] <Kilos> eat first man
[17:42] <charl> ok ok ... :)
[17:42] <Kilos> shame one poor freestate farmer lost 1000 sheep to hail and cold
[17:42] <Kilos> thats ove 1million bucks worth
[17:44] <charl> ok dinner done
[17:44] <charl> ouch !
[17:45] <charl> i'll privmsg you
[19:18] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight