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miaurielhey everyone. has anyone got compiz to work in Xubuntu 14.04? I keep getting "compiz (decor) - Warn: No default decoration found, placement will not be correct00:29
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bonk3rzzsup all is there a way to view my 2nd display no main monitor (yes i googled) my 2nd display is my TV and it works great right up till i need to move a window or play a next episode05:42
holsteinbonk3rzz: please rephrase..05:43
bonk3rzz2nd monitor is around corner want to view it form main monitor05:44
holsteinbonk3rzz: you want to view it "in form" ?05:45
bonk3rzzsure05:46
holsteinbonk3rzz: what does that mean?05:47
bonk3rzzwhat does in form mean05:47
holsteinbonk3rzz: i dont understand you, friend.. i dont know what "in form" means..05:48
bonk3rzzi dont want to mirror it just see it from my main display05:48
holsteinbonk3rzz: you want to see what?05:49
bonk3rzzohhh "it form" typo "it from"05:49
bonk3rzzthe 2nd display (monitor)05:49
holsteinbonk3rzz: ok.. so, you have 2 displays.. what are you trying to do with them?05:50
bonk3rzzI want to view the 2nd display from the first05:50
holsteinbonk3rzz: you want to mirror, then05:51
holsteinbonk3rzz: thats mirroring.. you see the same on both displays05:51
bonk3rzzno mirror05:52
holsteinbonk3rzz: that is mirror, friend05:53
bonk3rzzdont want to mirror come out all stupid being that both are different sizes05:53
holsteinbonk3rzz: sure, but thats the deal.. if you want to see the same on both screens, thats mirroring.. the different sizes can be problematic05:54
holsteinbonk3rzz: i suggest trying "arandr"... you can have the displays overlap or whatever05:54
bonk3rzzi want picture in picture of the screen or something like that05:55
holsteinbonk3rzz: you'll need to be more precise05:57
bonk3rzzomg NEXT05:58
holsteinbonk3rzz: a "picture of the screen" on one screen, *is* a mirror05:58
holsteinbonk3rzz: please try using arandr05:58
holstein!info arandr05:58
ubottuarandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.7.1-1 (trusty), package size 66 kB, installed size 507 kB05:58
holsteinyou should be able to use that GUI tool to set overlapping areas and deal with the mirroring you are describing, and compensate for the different size displays06:00
bonk3rzzMirroring is both monitors the same... PIP is a box that views a 2nd input such and a tv channel... IE as your watching your soaps i can watch a football game at the same time06:01
holsteinbonk3rzz: PIP = picture in picture06:02
bonk3rzzYour a IDIOT06:03
holsteinbonk3rzz: i can research picture in picture now that you have introduced that term06:03
holsteinbonk3rzz: theres no need for that.. i honestly didnt understand you06:03
holsteinbonk3rzz: we are volunteers here, and i *can* and will help you...06:04
bonk3rzzwell thanks for your help and keep up the good work06:05
holsteinbonk3rzz: you want this all the time? like a 3rd display setting inside the larger one?06:06
holsteinbonk3rzz: have you tried something like vnc? or is that not going to meet your needs?06:06
bonk3rzzyes but vnc4server is just not doing it so im trying to find a better solution06:07
holsteinbonk3rzz: whats the goal, here? this is, as i asked above, just for a normal display output? not for video editing setup?06:08
bonk3rzz2nd display is a tv... it runs Netflix, Vlc, Xbmc, Hulu06:10
holsteinbonk3rzz: so, just a normal display inside there, then?06:11
bonk3rzz1st display is Main Computer and editing or internet is here but from where my computer sits to my tv is 25ft away via hdmi and i cant see my tv to know where to click for the next show or whatever06:12
holsteini would just VNC in on another monitor..06:13
holsteinbonk3rzz: you can try the main #ubuntu channel. and mailing lists.. i would refer to it as "picture in picture" as soon as you ask. and avoid *ever* refering to anyone as "an idiot" in the official channels.. thanks and good luck06:14
bonk3rzzread before i called you a idiot... it say Picture in Picture06:16
holsteinbonk3rzz: you will likely be asked follow up quesitons.. its a community team here, and you are part of it.. you help me help you by answering follow up questions..06:17
holstein01:55 < bonk3rzz> i want picture in picture of the screen or something like that06:17
holstein^ that wasnt quite clear enough for me.. and i asked for clarification..06:18
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wlxmhlshi, how to enable xchat multi-line input box?12:10
KM0201anybody having a problem with the weather applet reporting "no data"?  i've googled and found some old bug reports, but they don't make a lot of sense12:52
elfyKM0201: there is a fix in -proposed bug 137761213:03
ubottubug 1377612 in Xfce4 weather plugin "[SRU] Plugin needs updated for locationforecast-1.2" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137761213:03
KM0201hmm, ok, thanks13:03
elfyyou can enable proposed - mark the package (just THIS one) and upgrade it - then disable proposed again - and then comment on the bug assuming it works for you13:04
elfyif it doesn't work for you - check why and if it is really not working tag it verification-failed13:04
KM0201elfy: i'll try that13:07
KM0201thanks13:07
elfywelcome - ftr - it worked ok for me13:07
KM0201i had googled like crazy, and the only bug reports i saw, were from 201113:07
elfy:)13:07
KM0201lol, i just realized htis machine is running mint...13:08
KM0201could have swore it was running ubuntu13:08
elfyno idea if it'll work for that13:08
KM0201i imagine ti will.13:08
KM0201i'm willing to try13:09
KM0201what's the proposed repo?13:09
KM0201nevermind.. i found it13:09
KM0201hmm, not giving me the option to update13:13
KM0201elfy: not sure if it helps or not... but this package solved my issue..  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/0.8.3-2/+build/644128913:34
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Fohlenhey guys. I want to entirely "reset" my xubuntu desktop to the default settings. http://anglehit.com/how-to-reset-xfce-panels-to-default-settings/ says I could do this with xconfd and simply deleting ~.config/xfce4/panel but if I'm not wrong this only applies to the panels. Would I delete the whole ~.config/xfce4/ folder if I want to start over?14:52
Fohlenand also, which config file defines the Desktop folder? In the German translation it has been changed between 14.04 and 14.04.1 and that is why I need to change the path.14:53
Fohlenor would I simply delete ~.config/xfce4/ and force the xserver to respawn?14:54
GridCubeFohlen, that would be what i would do15:41
GridCubeits perfectly safe to do so15:41
Fohleny15:42
keeper_1986hi, after a recent update my weather applet doesnt seem to work anymore. it always show "No Data". I've changed the location several times and tried again: Same Result. Google couldnt help so far17:13
brainwash_keeper_1986: bug 137761217:15
ubottubug 1377612 in Xfce4 weather plugin "[SRU] Plugin needs updated for locationforecast-1.2" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137761217:15
keeper_1986Thank you. Weird that google didnt show me that. All i got was 3 year old simmilar problem reports in bulletin boards. (Checking bugreport)17:16
brainwash_for xubuntu 14.04 you can enable the -proposed repo and reinstall the weather plugin, then disable the -proposed repo17:18
keeper_1986okay thanks. maybe i'll try that. Do you know, whether there will be a "fix" on this via regular update as well?17:21
brainwash_yes, but it may take some more days until the updated package will be available via regular updates17:22
keeper_1986ah okay :-). Thank you very much for your help (and also sorry for my apparently "poor googling")17:23
linuxnoobI'm having trouble mounting a shared folder, supposedly it was going to be put at /mnt/hgfs but its not there. When I give the command to manually mount it says I need su. When I use su, it is not taking the password.17:23
brainwash_don't worry :)17:23
linuxnoobI installed xubuntu 14 through VMware and put user: x, password: x. none of the prompts said anything about su password. x isn't working for it17:24
brainwash_linuxnoob: try sudo17:25
linuxnoobsyntax?17:25
brainwash_sudo <your command>17:25
linuxnoobso like sudo mount blah blah ?17:26
brainwash_yes17:26
koegslinuxnoob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:27
linuxnoobsays to use "mount -t vmhgfs .host:/foo /tmp/foo" but that gives error unknown file system vmhgfs17:28
holstein!root17:28
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:28
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/29284/how-do-i-mount-shared-folders-in-ubuntu-using-vmware-tools might help with that error17:29
linuxnoobsays if I don't see the shared folder mounted to run VMware configuration tools:  sudo vmware-config-tools.pl. when I do that says command not found17:31
linuxnoobits supposed to be in mnt/hgfs but mnt is empty17:31
koegsdid you even install the vmware addons?17:31
linuxnoob"vmware tools " ?17:32
koegsmaybe it is called that way :D17:32
holsteinlinuxnoob: you'll need to install whatever vmware suggests to use the shared folders17:33
koegshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools17:33
linuxnoobit just says to enable the shared folder which I did17:33
holsteinlinuxnoob: it?17:35
holsteinlinuxnoob: i would see that you have the tools package installed.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools#What_are_.27VMware_Tools.27.3F17:36
linuxnoobrun VMware configuration tools:  sudo vmware-config-tools.pl18:05
linuxnooboops18:05
linuxnoobrun VMware configuration tools:  sudo vmware-config-tools.pl18:05
linuxnoobugh I guess I have to type it out can't paste from vm18:06
holsteinlinuxnoob: you can.. but, usually the tools you are trying to install can enable clipboard support from host to guest..18:06
linuxnoobpackage open-vm-tools is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleteed, or is only available from another source18:06
holsteinlinuxnoob: i'll just go to the guide in the guest, and copy paste in there18:06
linuxnoobthats what it said after I tried sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools18:07
holsteinlinuxnoob: i would open the package manager of my choice and search for vmware.. or ask vmware what i need to install18:07
linuxnoobhuh?18:07
holsteinhttp://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1022525 this actually looks a lot like how i would proceed18:08
linuxnoobi put sudo ./vmware-install.pl but it says command not found18:13
holsteinlinuxnoob: sure.. you dont have the tool installed yet18:15
holsteinlinuxnoob: do you have that *.pl at that location?18:16
linuxnoobI got the shared folder working ty18:32
xubuntu827Buonasera, siete italiani?18:35
xubuntu827C'è qualcuno?18:36
koegs!it18:37
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)18:37
xubuntu827grazie, scusate18:37
linuxnoobwhen I do sudo apt-get install build-essential it says unable to locate package18:38
linuxnoobsame thing with OpenSSL and SQlite18:41
skribblezatchawell then install it from synaptic linuxnoob.18:41
Unit193Time to apt-get update.18:43
skribblezatchahonestly openssl is always installed. but yeah, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:45
skribblezatchathen after all updates are installed go and look for those packages linuxnoob.18:45
xubuntu289ciao a tutti18:58
xubuntu289consigli su xubunttu?18:59
linuxnoobhow do I gain real access to my wifi card from within VMware running Xubuntu? lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 echoes nothing19:54
bekkslinuxnoob: You dont.20:08
linuxnoobI found out I have to use a USB wlan card, so I've gotten one. just trying to get it to detect in xubuntu20:09
bekksWhich vmware product do you use?20:10
linuxnoobvmware player20:12
bekksNo chnce then.20:12
bekks*chance even20:12
bekksYou'd have to pass through your USB device to your VM - but I doubt that will be enough.20:13
linuxnoobI passed it through already, but I'm not sure how to get it to show up.20:15
m3n3chm0dear all guys, i need your help. After upgrading kernel to 3.17 now my wifi card Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 is not working anymore.. i've installed drivers from adicional drivers option but no sucess yet20:18
bekksm3n3chm0: So use the latest xubuntu supported kernel.20:19
m3n3chm0ok20:21
linuxnoobcan someone help me find a working driver for Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0846:9020 NetGear, Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]20:23
m3n3chm0bekks now it's fixed20:24
m3n3chm0sudo modprobe b4320:24
linuxnoobsudo modprobe b43 didn't seem to do anything, it asked for my password then just brought up the blank prompt again20:29
linuxnoobok dumb question, where do the files go after an install?20:32
linuxnoobI installed ndisgtk but need to run in terminal for sudo access20:33
linuxnoobnvm got it20:33
xubuntu334Hi everybody, I'm a new Xubuntu user, just wanted to try the IRC.20:43
linuxnoobWhat do you do if you install a windows driver with ndiswrapper and it says hardware present but otherwise doesn't seem to work?20:56
holsteinlinuxnoob: i'll keep in mind im not able to be promised any support from the manufacturer, and just try other drivers20:58
linuxnoobcan anyone make heads or tails of this error? http://pastebin.com/cCsAgLUc I'm trying to get a USB wireless card to work, and everyone says it requires ndiswrapper to work. I followed all the steps.21:06
holsteinlinuxnoob: all what steps?21:06
holsteinlinuxnoob: these days, when hardware like that is sometimes sitting in the trash, or quite cheap online, i say, dont waste too much time on it.. you are not able to be promised support from the creator of the hardware for linux21:07
holsteinlinuxnoob: when i have problematic usb wifi devices, i try just plugging.. then, i get as many windows drivers as i can find.. i use the ndiswrapper gui to try a bunch of them..21:08
LibreSpiritusHello, could anyone help me figure out why my wireless drops randomly?21:08
holsteinLibreSpiritus: i can suggesting troubleshooting tips to isolate.. i would see if its just that device or if other devices have the same issue. i would try other wifi access points. i would try a supported operting system on the hardware to see if the wifi device is working properly21:10
holsteinand, can you ping the gateway.. etc..21:10
LibreSpiritusHardware worked fine under windows, and it seems it's only this device.21:11
holsteinLibreSpiritus: well, if it was a while ago when it worked fine under a supported OS, then, you cannot confirm that the device is still functioning properly.. but, its likely just driver support.. has is *ever* worked well in linux?21:11
linuxnoobthe steps I followed are here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695036&page=521:12
LibreSpiritusNo it has not every really worked well for the time I've been using linux on it.21:12
holsteinlinuxnoob: you installed a custom version of ndiswrapper?21:12
LibreSpiritusNetwork controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)21:12
LibreSpiritusbtw21:12
holsteinLibreSpiritus: you shouldnt need to.. if you installed that version, its likely older than what is in the repos now21:13
holsteinLibreSpiritus: sorry.. linuxnoob ^21:13
holstein!info ndis-gtk21:13
ubottuPackage ndis-gtk does not exist in trusty21:13
holstein!info ndisgtk21:14
ubottundisgtk (source: ndisgtk): graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 16 kB, installed size 144 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)21:14
holsteinlinuxnoob: i would remove the custom version you installed, and install the GUI tool ndisgtk and the repo version of ndis, and try *all* drivers i can find.. for windows 2000 through whatever.. literally and driver i can locate21:14
holsteinprobably wont find any win2000 drivers ;)21:15
linuxnoobholstein its not a custom version, it is the latest 1.59 ndiswrapper21:32
linuxnoobI am certain I have the correct driver, it was linked in the thread where others got it to work21:34
linuxnoobCan someone please help me with this? http://pastebin.com/AwND1vc421:36

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