[00:29] <miauriel> hey everyone. has anyone got compiz to work in Xubuntu 14.04? I keep getting "compiz (decor) - Warn: No default decoration found, placement will not be correct
[05:42] <bonk3rzz> sup all is there a way to view my 2nd display no main monitor (yes i googled) my 2nd display is my TV and it works great right up till i need to move a window or play a next episode
[05:43] <holstein> bonk3rzz: please rephrase..
[05:44] <bonk3rzz> 2nd monitor is around corner want to view it form main monitor
[05:45] <holstein> bonk3rzz: you want to view it "in form" ?
[05:46] <bonk3rzz> sure
[05:47] <holstein> bonk3rzz: what does that mean?
[05:47] <bonk3rzz> what does in form mean
[05:48] <holstein> bonk3rzz: i dont understand you, friend.. i dont know what "in form" means..
[05:48] <bonk3rzz> i dont want to mirror it just see it from my main display
[05:49] <holstein> bonk3rzz: you want to see what?
[05:49] <bonk3rzz> ohhh "it form" typo "it from"
[05:49] <bonk3rzz> the 2nd display (monitor)
[05:50] <holstein> bonk3rzz: ok.. so, you have 2 displays.. what are you trying to do with them?
[05:50] <bonk3rzz> I want to view the 2nd display from the first
[05:51] <holstein> bonk3rzz: you want to mirror, then
[05:51] <holstein> bonk3rzz: thats mirroring.. you see the same on both displays
[05:52] <bonk3rzz> no mirror
[05:53] <holstein> bonk3rzz: that is mirror, friend
[05:53] <bonk3rzz> dont want to mirror come out all stupid being that both are different sizes
[05:54] <holstein> bonk3rzz: sure, but thats the deal.. if you want to see the same on both screens, thats mirroring.. the different sizes can be problematic
[05:54] <holstein> bonk3rzz: i suggest trying "arandr"... you can have the displays overlap or whatever
[05:55] <bonk3rzz> i want picture in picture of the screen or something like that
[05:57] <holstein> bonk3rzz: you'll need to be more precise
[05:58] <bonk3rzz> omg NEXT
[05:58] <holstein> bonk3rzz: a "picture of the screen" on one screen, *is* a mirror
[05:58] <holstein> bonk3rzz: please try using arandr
[05:58] <holstein> !info arandr
[06:00] <holstein> you should be able to use that GUI tool to set overlapping areas and deal with the mirroring you are describing, and compensate for the different size displays
[06:01] <bonk3rzz> Mirroring is both monitors the same... PIP is a box that views a 2nd input such and a tv channel... IE as your watching your soaps i can watch a football game at the same time
[06:02] <holstein> bonk3rzz: PIP = picture in picture
[06:03] <bonk3rzz> Your a IDIOT
[06:03] <holstein> bonk3rzz: i can research picture in picture now that you have introduced that term
[06:03] <holstein> bonk3rzz: theres no need for that.. i honestly didnt understand you
[06:04] <holstein> bonk3rzz: we are volunteers here, and i *can* and will help you...
[06:05] <bonk3rzz> well thanks for your help and keep up the good work
[06:06] <holstein> bonk3rzz: you want this all the time? like a 3rd display setting inside the larger one?
[06:06] <holstein> bonk3rzz: have you tried something like vnc? or is that not going to meet your needs?
[06:07] <bonk3rzz> yes but vnc4server is just not doing it so im trying to find a better solution
[06:08] <holstein> bonk3rzz: whats the goal, here? this is, as i asked above, just for a normal display output? not for video editing setup?
[06:10] <bonk3rzz> 2nd display is a tv... it runs Netflix, Vlc, Xbmc, Hulu
[06:11] <holstein> bonk3rzz: so, just a normal display inside there, then?
[06:12] <bonk3rzz> 1st display is Main Computer and editing or internet is here but from where my computer sits to my tv is 25ft away via hdmi and i cant see my tv to know where to click for the next show or whatever
[06:13] <holstein> i would just VNC in on another monitor..
[06:14] <holstein> bonk3rzz: you can try the main #ubuntu channel. and mailing lists.. i would refer to it as "picture in picture" as soon as you ask. and avoid *ever* refering to anyone as "an idiot" in the official channels.. thanks and good luck
[06:16] <bonk3rzz> read before i called you a idiot... it say Picture in Picture
[06:17] <holstein> bonk3rzz: you will likely be asked follow up quesitons.. its a community team here, and you are part of it.. you help me help you by answering follow up questions..
[06:17] <holstein> 01:55 < bonk3rzz> i want picture in picture of the screen or something like that
[06:18] <holstein> ^ that wasnt quite clear enough for me.. and i asked for clarification..
[12:10] <wlxmhls> hi, how to enable xchat multi-line input box?
[12:52] <KM0201> anybody having a problem with the weather applet reporting "no data"?  i've googled and found some old bug reports, but they don't make a lot of sense
[13:03] <elfy> KM0201: there is a fix in -proposed bug 1377612
[13:03] <KM0201> hmm, ok, thanks
[13:04] <elfy> you can enable proposed - mark the package (just THIS one) and upgrade it - then disable proposed again - and then comment on the bug assuming it works for you
[13:04] <elfy> if it doesn't work for you - check why and if it is really not working tag it verification-failed
[13:07] <KM0201> elfy: i'll try that
[13:07] <KM0201> thanks
[13:07] <elfy> welcome - ftr - it worked ok for me
[13:07] <KM0201> i had googled like crazy, and the only bug reports i saw, were from 2011
[13:07] <elfy> :)
[13:08] <KM0201> lol, i just realized htis machine is running mint...
[13:08] <KM0201> could have swore it was running ubuntu
[13:08] <elfy> no idea if it'll work for that
[13:08] <KM0201> i imagine ti will.
[13:09] <KM0201> i'm willing to try
[13:09] <KM0201> what's the proposed repo?
[13:09] <KM0201> nevermind.. i found it
[13:13] <KM0201> hmm, not giving me the option to update
[13:34] <KM0201> elfy: not sure if it helps or not... but this package solved my issue..  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/0.8.3-2/+build/6441289
[14:52] <Fohlen> hey guys. I want to entirely "reset" my xubuntu desktop to the default settings. http://anglehit.com/how-to-reset-xfce-panels-to-default-settings/ says I could do this with xconfd and simply deleting ~.config/xfce4/panel but if I'm not wrong this only applies to the panels. Would I delete the whole ~.config/xfce4/ folder if I want to start over?
[14:53] <Fohlen> and also, which config file defines the Desktop folder? In the German translation it has been changed between 14.04 and 14.04.1 and that is why I need to change the path.
[14:54] <Fohlen> or would I simply delete ~.config/xfce4/ and force the xserver to respawn?
[15:41] <GridCube> Fohlen, that would be what i would do
[15:41] <GridCube> its perfectly safe to do so
[15:42] <Fohlen> y
[17:13] <keeper_1986> hi, after a recent update my weather applet doesnt seem to work anymore. it always show "No Data". I've changed the location several times and tried again: Same Result. Google couldnt help so far
[17:15] <brainwash_> keeper_1986: bug 1377612
[17:16] <keeper_1986> Thank you. Weird that google didnt show me that. All i got was 3 year old simmilar problem reports in bulletin boards. (Checking bugreport)
[17:18] <brainwash_> for xubuntu 14.04 you can enable the -proposed repo and reinstall the weather plugin, then disable the -proposed repo
[17:21] <keeper_1986> okay thanks. maybe i'll try that. Do you know, whether there will be a "fix" on this via regular update as well?
[17:22] <brainwash_> yes, but it may take some more days until the updated package will be available via regular updates
[17:23] <keeper_1986> ah okay :-). Thank you very much for your help (and also sorry for my apparently "poor googling")
[17:23] <linuxnoob> I'm having trouble mounting a shared folder, supposedly it was going to be put at /mnt/hgfs but its not there. When I give the command to manually mount it says I need su. When I use su, it is not taking the password.
[17:23] <brainwash_> don't worry :)
[17:24] <linuxnoob> I installed xubuntu 14 through VMware and put user: x, password: x. none of the prompts said anything about su password. x isn't working for it
[17:25] <brainwash_> linuxnoob: try sudo
[17:25] <linuxnoob> syntax?
[17:25] <brainwash_> sudo <your command>
[17:26] <linuxnoob> so like sudo mount blah blah ?
[17:26] <brainwash_> yes
[17:27] <koegs> linuxnoob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:28] <linuxnoob> says to use "mount -t vmhgfs .host:/foo /tmp/foo" but that gives error unknown file system vmhgfs
[17:28] <holstein> !root
[17:29] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/29284/how-do-i-mount-shared-folders-in-ubuntu-using-vmware-tools might help with that error
[17:31] <linuxnoob> says if I don't see the shared folder mounted to run VMware configuration tools:  sudo vmware-config-tools.pl. when I do that says command not found
[17:31] <linuxnoob> its supposed to be in mnt/hgfs but mnt is empty
[17:31] <koegs> did you even install the vmware addons?
[17:32] <linuxnoob> "vmware tools " ?
[17:32] <koegs> maybe it is called that way :D
[17:33] <holstein> linuxnoob: you'll need to install whatever vmware suggests to use the shared folders
[17:33] <koegs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools
[17:33] <linuxnoob> it just says to enable the shared folder which I did
[17:35] <holstein> linuxnoob: it?
[17:36] <holstein> linuxnoob: i would see that you have the tools package installed.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools#What_are_.27VMware_Tools.27.3F
[18:05] <linuxnoob> run VMware configuration tools:  sudo vmware-config-tools.pl
[18:05] <linuxnoob> oops
[18:05] <linuxnoob> run VMware configuration tools:  sudo vmware-config-tools.pl
[18:06] <linuxnoob> ugh I guess I have to type it out can't paste from vm
[18:06] <holstein> linuxnoob: you can.. but, usually the tools you are trying to install can enable clipboard support from host to guest..
[18:06] <linuxnoob> package open-vm-tools is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleteed, or is only available from another source
[18:06] <holstein> linuxnoob: i'll just go to the guide in the guest, and copy paste in there
[18:07] <linuxnoob> thats what it said after I tried sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools
[18:07] <holstein> linuxnoob: i would open the package manager of my choice and search for vmware.. or ask vmware what i need to install
[18:07] <linuxnoob> huh?
[18:08] <holstein> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1022525 this actually looks a lot like how i would proceed
[18:13] <linuxnoob> i put sudo ./vmware-install.pl but it says command not found
[18:15] <holstein> linuxnoob: sure.. you dont have the tool installed yet
[18:16] <holstein> linuxnoob: do you have that *.pl at that location?
[18:32] <linuxnoob> I got the shared folder working ty
[18:35] <xubuntu827> Buonasera, siete italiani?
[18:36] <xubuntu827> C'è qualcuno?
[18:37] <koegs> !it
[18:37] <xubuntu827> grazie, scusate
[18:38] <linuxnoob> when I do sudo apt-get install build-essential it says unable to locate package
[18:41] <linuxnoob> same thing with OpenSSL and SQlite
[18:41] <skribblezatcha> well then install it from synaptic linuxnoob.
[18:43] <Unit193> Time to apt-get update.
[18:45] <skribblezatcha> honestly openssl is always installed. but yeah, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:45] <skribblezatcha> then after all updates are installed go and look for those packages linuxnoob.
[18:58] <xubuntu289> ciao a tutti
[18:59] <xubuntu289> consigli su xubunttu?
[19:54] <linuxnoob> how do I gain real access to my wifi card from within VMware running Xubuntu? lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 echoes nothing
[20:08] <bekks> linuxnoob: You dont.
[20:09] <linuxnoob> I found out I have to use a USB wlan card, so I've gotten one. just trying to get it to detect in xubuntu
[20:10] <bekks> Which vmware product do you use?
[20:12] <linuxnoob> vmware player
[20:12] <bekks> No chnce then.
[20:12] <bekks> *chance even
[20:13] <bekks> You'd have to pass through your USB device to your VM - but I doubt that will be enough.
[20:15] <linuxnoob> I passed it through already, but I'm not sure how to get it to show up.
[20:18] <m3n3chm0> dear all guys, i need your help. After upgrading kernel to 3.17 now my wifi card Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 is not working anymore.. i've installed drivers from adicional drivers option but no sucess yet
[20:19] <bekks> m3n3chm0: So use the latest xubuntu supported kernel.
[20:21] <m3n3chm0> ok
[20:23] <linuxnoob> can someone help me find a working driver for Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0846:9020 NetGear, Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]
[20:24] <m3n3chm0> bekks now it's fixed
[20:24] <m3n3chm0> sudo modprobe b43
[20:29] <linuxnoob> sudo modprobe b43 didn't seem to do anything, it asked for my password then just brought up the blank prompt again
[20:32] <linuxnoob> ok dumb question, where do the files go after an install?
[20:33] <linuxnoob> I installed ndisgtk but need to run in terminal for sudo access
[20:33] <linuxnoob> nvm got it
[20:43] <xubuntu334> Hi everybody, I'm a new Xubuntu user, just wanted to try the IRC.
[20:56] <linuxnoob> What do you do if you install a windows driver with ndiswrapper and it says hardware present but otherwise doesn't seem to work?
[20:58] <holstein> linuxnoob: i'll keep in mind im not able to be promised any support from the manufacturer, and just try other drivers
[21:06] <linuxnoob> can anyone make heads or tails of this error? http://pastebin.com/cCsAgLUc I'm trying to get a USB wireless card to work, and everyone says it requires ndiswrapper to work. I followed all the steps.
[21:06] <holstein> linuxnoob: all what steps?
[21:07] <holstein> linuxnoob: these days, when hardware like that is sometimes sitting in the trash, or quite cheap online, i say, dont waste too much time on it.. you are not able to be promised support from the creator of the hardware for linux
[21:08] <holstein> linuxnoob: when i have problematic usb wifi devices, i try just plugging.. then, i get as many windows drivers as i can find.. i use the ndiswrapper gui to try a bunch of them..
[21:08] <LibreSpiritus> Hello, could anyone help me figure out why my wireless drops randomly?
[21:10] <holstein> LibreSpiritus: i can suggesting troubleshooting tips to isolate.. i would see if its just that device or if other devices have the same issue. i would try other wifi access points. i would try a supported operting system on the hardware to see if the wifi device is working properly
[21:10] <holstein> and, can you ping the gateway.. etc..
[21:11] <LibreSpiritus> Hardware worked fine under windows, and it seems it's only this device.
[21:11] <holstein> LibreSpiritus: well, if it was a while ago when it worked fine under a supported OS, then, you cannot confirm that the device is still functioning properly.. but, its likely just driver support.. has is *ever* worked well in linux?
[21:12] <linuxnoob> the steps I followed are here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695036&page=5
[21:12] <LibreSpiritus> No it has not every really worked well for the time I've been using linux on it.
[21:12] <holstein> linuxnoob: you installed a custom version of ndiswrapper?
[21:12] <LibreSpiritus> Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[21:12] <LibreSpiritus> btw
[21:13] <holstein> LibreSpiritus: you shouldnt need to.. if you installed that version, its likely older than what is in the repos now
[21:13] <holstein> LibreSpiritus: sorry.. linuxnoob ^
[21:13] <holstein> !info ndis-gtk
[21:14] <holstein> !info ndisgtk
[21:14] <holstein> linuxnoob: i would remove the custom version you installed, and install the GUI tool ndisgtk and the repo version of ndis, and try *all* drivers i can find.. for windows 2000 through whatever.. literally and driver i can locate
[21:15] <holstein> probably wont find any win2000 drivers ;)
[21:32] <linuxnoob> holstein its not a custom version, it is the latest 1.59 ndiswrapper
[21:34] <linuxnoob> I am certain I have the correct driver, it was linked in the thread where others got it to work
[21:36] <linuxnoob> Can someone please help me with this? http://pastebin.com/AwND1vc4