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mihirHello :)00:53
vitimitiHi08:40
gcolluraOnce I get files from ContentHub, can I move or copy them where I want? (eg. to my .local/share/<appname>/ directory)08:50
DanChapmangcollura: yes you can move them to any *allowed* location using .move()09:12
gcolluraDanChapman, on which object is implemented that method? or should I implement it manually with c++?09:15
DanChapmangcollura: 2 secs i'll just find an example09:21
gcollurathanks, don't worry, it's not urgent09:23
DanChapmangcollura: ahh it looks it's changed. So it looks like you now need to give ContentPeer::request() a a ContentStore object to permanantly save to the Store's uri09:24
DanChapmanhttp://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Content.ContentPeer/#request-method-209:24
vitimitiI need to use QuaZip on my project and I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8589493/ <- I think I should be adding -lz to the project, but it's using CMakeLists.txt instead of .project file. I can't find a way to add it so the extractAll() function will work09:26
gcolluraDanChapman, ok thanks, I'll have a look09:27
gcolluraDanChapman, do you know which uri should I put?09:28
DanChapmangcollura: it should be where you want it to be stored. Might be worth looking at music-app i know they use it09:32
gcolluraok perfect thanks09:32
gcolluraDanChapman, they use ContentItem.move(), not ContentStore09:37
DanChapman:-D there it is. No wonder i didn't find it i was looking at the wrong object I thought it was done on the content peer :-D09:38
gcolluraDanChapman, finally got my import function working again in my app, thanks DanChapman :D10:10
DanChapmangcollura: :-D np10:21
proccesseridhello, how can i write an if statement stating that $a is greater than 10 and MYBOOLEAN is false?13:03
proccesseridsomething like if( $a > 10 && !MYBOOLEAN)13:04
randomcpp_proccesserid, in which language?13:59
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roman_zonovdpm, are you here?16:18
proccesseridrandomcpp_ in bash, i looked and i cant seem to find a decent guide on bash language16:40
roman_zonovHello. I need some help. I don't know how to make my app translatable. Who can help me? (OS: Ubuntu Touch, QML app)18:35
Randy_Oroman_zonov: how far have you gotten?18:49
vitimitiHi18:58
roman_zonovRandy_0, I made .po and .pot files. Translated some of strings in Russian. But there is no translation19:02
akiva-thinkpadhey all20:45
akiva-thinkpadCan anybody give me some feedback here on text sizes ? http://filebin.ca/1eJFO5OgqMQh/Cast-_00002.mp4  -- x-large,large, and medium ; which do you prefer?21:27
akiva-thinkpadpopey, mihir, nik90 ?21:28
Randy_Oakiva-thinkpad: If you're looking for anyone’s opinion, I like the smaller fonts, so medium (is that the one on the far right?)22:01
Randy_Oakiva-thinkpad: I find big clunky text looks awkward on small displays, or for a small profile app on a desktop screen.22:03
akiva-thinkpadRandy_O, thanks!22:44
akiva-thinkpadI was looking for opinions :)22:45
akiva-thinkpadI set it to large for the time being. When DPM and the gang get on tonight, I'll pass it by them.22:45
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: I am going to be doing the CSS now. Is that okay with you?22:50
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, ah22:52
akiva-thinkpadsounds good;22:53
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: Fantastic, I am going to have some food then sort it out :)22:53
akiva-thinkpadSorry my pinging isn't working the best for whatever reason :P22:53
akiva-thinkpadhah22:53
akiva-thinkpadgood stuff22:53
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: Haha, no problem :)22:55
* akiva-thinkpad is coming down with a cold22:55
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: I have updated the css... It still needs some work but it almost there.23:23
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, ah is it live23:24
* akiva-thinkpad checks23:24
akiva-thinkpadwow23:24
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: It should be ahah!23:24
akiva-thinkpadlol23:24
akiva-thinkpadnice23:24
akiva-thinkpadokay so were going to need to impliment some ubuntu fonts :P23:24
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, for the time being, we should take out the logo; the branding is an issue that we need to make sure we have permission first from Canonical23:25
DS-McGuireI want to go back to our old origami background haha!23:25
akiva-thinkpadheh23:25
akiva-thinkpadI liked the ubuntu browns personally23:25
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: On it! Just a heads up, you can modify the css too :)23:25
funcplathe CSS is neat, I was totally surprised when I unexpectedly reloaded the page23:26
funcpla:D23:26
akiva-thinkpadlol23:26
akiva-thinkpadoh hey func23:26
akiva-thinkpadadded :P23:26
akiva-thinkpadI'm always here btw when I'm on23:26
akiva-thinkpadPacific time23:26
funcplaI'm here because sleep is for the weak23:26
funcplabut seriously I have to go soon ;_;23:26
akiva-thinkpadheh23:26
funcplaAnyway, I wanted to ask you to create a "How to get started" sticky or something23:27
funcplaYou, or DS, I don't know who has more experience23:27
DS-McGuirefuncpla: Who are you asking?23:27
DS-McGuireOh23:27
funcplaBoth :)23:27
DS-McGuireI would say not me to be honest.23:27
akiva-thinkpadYah I can do something along these lines.23:27
DS-McGuireAwesome!23:28
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, funcpla there are multiple things you need to do sort of.23:28
akiva-thinkpadlike getting launchpad, and doing version control is one whole topic23:28
akiva-thinkpadactually developing is an entirely different topic23:28
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: Yeah, lots of work to do.23:28
akiva-thinkpadShould I split it up?23:28
akiva-thinkpadGetting Started with Launchpad23:29
akiva-thinkpadGetting Started with the SDK23:29
funcplaYeah, multiple sections would be useful, with a motivational start, a general overview of a couple of sentences, and then the specifics23:29
DS-McGuireIsn't there already something like that on the Ubuntu site, why not link to that page and edit it? Or do we not have permission?23:29
akiva-thinkpadmmmm yah23:30
DS-McGuirefuncpla: "motivational start" Love that idea, different way to approach it.23:30
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, that is the quickest and easiest way.23:31
funcplaYeah, the QML tutorial is quite detailed.23:31
funcplaIt actually gets you to create an app.23:31
funcplaI mostly meant like a collection of resources, links, high-level overviews of as many related concepts as possible.23:31
akiva-thinkpadI'm really big on getting people into IRC though; having that live feedback is so incredibly valuable.23:31
akiva-thinkpadfuncpla, ah okay, a repository23:32
funcplaYeah you can definitely put that tip in there, to visit the IRC23:32
akiva-thinkpadOkay; I think that is a good idea; I'll work on it Gradually.23:32
akiva-thinkpadWe can make it just one sticky then.23:33
DS-McGuireI am going to remove the logo now.23:33
akiva-thinkpadcool beans23:33
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, We should edit the CSS to match the colour palette. Content Light should have an orange background, white text23:34
akiva-thinkpadcontent heavy (like the posts) should be white backgrounds with the ubuntu greys23:34
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: Do you think you could do that? I am trying to find this silly logo atm.23:35
akiva-thinkpadsure;23:35
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: Thanks :)23:35
akiva-thinkpadI guess for the time being, can't do much with filemanager :P23:35
funcplaCan someone explain the CSS situation with /r/Ubuntu to me? Why aren't they using what we're using now? I mean, great for us, but their sub seems to be Canonical-themed, not exactly Ubuntu23:36
akiva-thinkpadfuncpla, because its officially sponsored in effect by Canonical23:36
akiva-thinkpadAs in, they have flairs for their ubuntu members and canonical employees.23:37
funcplaHuh, OK23:37
funcplaOnly Canonical employees are mods there or?23:37
akiva-thinkpadfuncpla, I believe so23:37
akiva-thinkpadmhall119|vacatio, and popey I think both have those privelges23:37
akiva-thinkpadthe community team is highly active there.23:37
akiva-thinkpaddpm as well23:38
DS-McGuirefuncpla: I have messaged them a few times and they have just said they are working on it. The css we have right now we created by them, but that haven't made any commits since April.23:39
DS-McGuireBy the way the logo has been removed. It is still a little messy right now but it lest we wont get any Trademark issues.23:39
funcplaDS-McGuire ah so it's in some kind of limbo? Do they need to finish it or just haven't adopted it yet for some other reason?23:40
DS-McGuirefuncpla: From what I can see it is not finished. Perhaps they should use ours when it's done.23:40
funcplaRight, maybe we could help them with a commit or such23:41
DS-McGuirefuncpla: I think that is the best move, I think they would appreciate it.23:41
akiva-thinkpadyep :)23:42
DS-McGuire:)23:42
akiva-thinkpadi'm a bit ignorant; why is sans serif offered as a comma after "ubuntu" ?23:42
DS-McGuireRight, what else is top priority right now?23:42
* akiva-thinkpad is not a hundred percent familiar with css syntax, despite it being similar to qml23:43
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: Where are we looking now?23:43
funcplaCould it be a fallback?23:43
funcplaLike, if ubuntu font is not available, use sans serif23:43
DS-McGuirefuncpla: Most likely.23:43
akiva-thinkpadfuncpla, ah yes.23:43
akiva-thinkpadthat would make sense.23:44
DS-McGuireWhat else needs to be done?23:44
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, funcpla btw, lets stick with "A mix of community and Canonical" on the colour pallete. It is the medium between Canonical and community23:45
akiva-thinkpadhttps://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette23:45
akiva-thinkpadin 10 minutes I have to go for about 15 minutes, but I'll be back promptly :P23:45
funcplaDS-McGuire I plan to edit the sidebar with more relevant info about the sub, as I've said in that mod message. I guess the CSS needs to be sort-of finalized, akiva-thinkpad needs to write the "How to get started" motivation/overview, and we need to start looking for developers/contributors.23:47
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: That's fine. It is 12:46am here and I need to go in 45 mins because I have uni in the morning. I don't want to be mean but how much of this is actually Canonical involved? Am I being ignorant about something? :)23:47
popeyfuncpla: akiva-thinkpad no, its not canonical people who are mods in /r/ubuntu23:48
akiva-thinkpadpopey, but they do get special flairs !23:48
funcplapopey thanks for clarification :)23:48
DS-McGuirepopey: I thought as much Popey however wasn't sure.23:48
akiva-thinkpad:P23:48
popeythey're listed on the subreddit23:48
popeyon the right23:48
DS-McGuireI thought Ubuntu Memebers got those?23:49
akiva-thinkpadpopey, the subreddit does use the logo; was that something that permission was given?23:49
DS-McGuireThe flairs.23:49
popeythey dont need permission23:49
akiva-thinkpadpopey, I thought branding was a bit of an issue23:49
popeyyes, ubuntu members get flair23:49
popeynope23:49
funcplaAnyways I'm off for tonight. See ya!23:50
akiva-thinkpadpopey, ---- ____ ----  whats all this jazz about Canonical having to protect its brand?23:50
popeythe trademark.23:50
akiva-thinkpadright23:50
DS-McGuirefuncpla: Have a good night, I will be here tomorrow about the same time.23:50
popeythe trademark policy is very simple and for example allows for community use of the logo23:51
akiva-thinkpadpopey, okay, thanks for clarifying that23:51
DS-McGuirepopey: So we can use it on ours?23:51
popeyour what?23:51
DS-McGuirehttps://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuAppDev/23:52
akiva-thinkpadpopey, r/ubuntuappdev23:52
popeysure23:52
DS-McGuireI have removed it.23:52
DS-McGuireAh, damnit haha!23:52
popeyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/intellectual-property-policy23:52
akiva-thinkpadDS-McGuire, Sorry for the bad advice!23:52
akiva-thinkpad:P23:52
popeysee 6. on that page23:52
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: Not you're fault.23:53
akiva-thinkpadAh!23:53
akiva-thinkpadokay so I didnt read the part about community23:53
akiva-thinkpad!cookie | popey23:54
ubot5popey: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!23:54
DS-McGuirepopey: Thanks! Also, if you ever see fit could you give the sub a little plug in Linux Unplugged? It would be a massive help as we are trying to get the technical community involved.23:54
akiva-thinkpad:P23:54
akiva-thinkpadpull your strings with chris23:54
popeybuild it and they will come ☻23:54
akiva-thinkpadokay but once its built ;)23:54
popeyI'd get some content & discussions in there first23:54
DS-McGuirepopey: Damn, was looking for an easy way out haha!23:54
DS-McGuireSure sure, it will come in time :)23:55
akiva-thinkpadokay I gotta jet for a few minutes. bb in 1523:55
* popey goes out for beer23:55
DS-McGuireI just done want people to look at the sub and think "ah, it's dead" and move on ahha!23:55
popeyright, so make some content ☻23:55
DS-McGuireI am making! ahah!23:55
akiva-thinkpadheh23:56
DS-McGuireJust want it to be awesome first.23:56
DS-McGuireakiva-thinkpad: See you in a bit ;)23:56
* popey goes for beer23:56
popeyo/23:56
DS-McGuireo/23:57

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