[14:28] <iri> If I install debs from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.17.1-utopic/, are they signed and so forth, or is there another thing I need to do to verify then?
[14:28] <iri> s/then/them
[15:32] <apw> iri, they are not signed, no.  they are not designed for anything other than testing; they are semi-official builds purely for debug
[15:32] <iri> I'm now resorting to building my own from git://kernel.ubuntu.com
[15:33] <iri> Or alternatively, can I install a signed utopic kernel on my trusty machine? Is there a straightforward way to do that?
[17:33] <apw> iri, there will be utopic kernels for trusty pretty much as soon as utopic releases on thursday
[17:33] <iri> ah, great. Based on the 17.x series?
[17:33] <iri> *3.17 series?
[17:34] <apw> nope, utopic isn't 3.17 
[17:34] <apw> it is 3.16
[17:35] <iri> k