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GlamdringHowdy. So in trying to make something else work, I updated my kernel, and now my computer once it hits the desktop of the X. Total lockout. What log should I be looking at?00:12
Glamdring'Cause I don't think I can fix what's wrong if I'm not sure what is, and I'm something of a n00b.00:17
ianorlinhow did you update the kernel00:18
GlamdringWell, I was following somebody else's instruction, so I did this: apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-37-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic00:19
ianorlindoes hitting control alt f1 switch to a tty00:20
ianorlinthen enter your user name and password00:20
GlamdringDidn't seem to.00:20
GlamdringTell ya what. I'll log in with my laptop real quick, and then I'll start tinkering with her while you're here.00:20
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GlamdringAhoy from the laptop. Let's try to get to that tty again.00:22
ianorlinthat will switch to tty on the laptop00:22
GlamdringHrm. I don't think you understand where I'm going with this.00:23
ianorlinwhere are you going with tis00:23
ianorlinthis00:23
GlamdringI have two computers. The laptop is how I'll maintain contact and follow instructions.00:23
GlamdringThe desktop is the one which isn't working.00:23
GlamdringI've rebooted; I'm locked out now.00:23
GlamdringLet's try this.00:23
GlamdringCtrl-alt-f1?00:24
Glamdring'Cause that did nothing I could see.00:24
GlamdringI mean, just now, as we speak.00:24
ianorlinwhat os in on laptop?00:26
Glamdringkubuntu, using LXDE; it was the disk I had on hand at the time.00:26
GlamdringThe desktop that's messing with me (Sasha) is using Lubuntu.00:26
ianorlinanother idea is you can try to boot with an older kernel on the desktop by holding shift down at boot to get into grub00:27
GlamdringIt actually defaults to grub, but I'll see if anything changes.00:28
GlamdringOh. Cute. So I can get it to shut down properly if I press the power button.00:28
GlamdringMaybe it just hates my mouse and keyboard...00:28
ianorlinone thing to notice is press down00:28
ianorlinto go to advanced optoins for ubuntu on the menu00:29
GlamdringOkay. I'm there now.00:29
ianorlindo you see the boot ubuntu with an older kernel?00:30
GlamdringI've got 3.13.0-37 and 3.13.0-24 as options.00:31
Glamdring(And their recovery modes.)00:31
ianorlinoh try 3.13.0-24 to try to boot00:31
GlamdringMemory fails, but this may be how I got to chatting with you from said desktop in the first place. (Hence having to log in with the laptop.)00:31
ianorlinah00:32
GlamdringWell, I've done it. I can move the mouse.00:32
GlamdringSo yeah, it boots fine into 0-24, it seems.00:32
ianorlin3.13.0-27 isn't that new of  a kernel anymore00:33
GlamdringNot surprised.00:33
GlamdringWait, 0-24, 0-27 (which I don't have), or 0-37?00:34
GlamdringAre you saying 0-37 isn't very new anymore, or are we on a different topic?00:35
ianorlin0-37 is new00:36
ianorlinwhy not just try using system updates normally?00:36
* Glamdring shrugs.00:36
GlamdringI was following instructions, so I did as the instructions said.00:36
ianorlinyou can go to menu system tools software updater or do you want to upgrade from command line00:37
GlamdringWell, command line would be better; it's the less intuitive means, so it's the one I need to work harder to learn.00:37
GlamdringSo if you don't mind, I'll try command line.00:38
ianorlinok then run sudo apt-get update first to get the lists of new packages00:38
ianorlinso it knows which updates to install00:38
GlamdringCompliance.00:38
ianorlinthen run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade00:38
Glamdring"It's a simple question, Norm. Just say yes and we'll move on." I assume I hit y?00:39
ianorliny00:39
GlamdringCompliance.00:40
GlamdringHeh. This might take a little while, apparently.00:40
ianorlinyes it needs to download updates00:40
GlamdringMy download speed is wildly inconsistent, apparently. Still, every byte downloaded is one I won't have to download later.00:45
GlamdringGood, it's all fetched. Now to watch it fly.00:47
GlamdringNow, is there a goodly chance I could figure out what went awry had I read a log?00:50
GlamdringI'm asking 'cause she's still busy, so there's time to kill.00:51
* Glamdring shrugs.00:57
GlamdringUnimportant question, I take it.00:58
GlamdringOkay, she seems to be updated.00:59
GlamdringShall I reboot, see what happens?00:59
GlamdringI'm trying not to jump ahead on anything. It's got me in trouble before.01:00
Glamdringianorlin?01:14
GlamdringOkay. I'll just restart, and see if it implodes. At worst, I expect no significant change.01:22
GlamdringWell, it seems to work now. Thanks.01:24
GlamdringStill wish I understood where it went awry, but it's functional now, and that's enough.01:24
Steven-If I have two fresh HDs and I want to install & dual boot Ubuntu/Win7Pro (both on same HD) do I just install Win on one drive and just resize the partitions?01:35
GlamdringI just updated my kernel, and now instead of text I seem to frequently get black or grey bars. How do I fix this?02:33
GlamdringSearching online, I'm finding this referenced specifically with Firefox, and I admit I popped in the moment I saw the change. Perhaps it's a Firefox problem. Anybody have input?02:38
holsteinGlamdring: with flash in firefox?03:52
holsteinGlamdring: i have input.. seems like you are jumping around a bit on what you thin the issue is.. try and isolate the variables. you should be able to boot the older kernel.. if its only in the web, try other web browser..03:53
holsteinGlamdring: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314924 is also something that you should look into as well.. suggested by someone in the OT channel04:02
ubottuUbuntu bug 1314924 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Adressbox Entries unreadable: Grey/Black Mask overlaying text" [Undecided,Confirmed]04:02
GlamdringOh. Sorry. I was a bit distracted.04:06
GlamdringTo isolate a variable, I installed Chromium. I've seen no problems so far, which means it might only be Firefox. And no, not flash.04:07
GlamdringAnd yeah, that's probably the bug in question.04:09
* Glamdring reads over the bug, frowns.04:14
GlamdringI think I'm starting to hate this board.04:14
GlamdringThanks. That seems to be an adequate workaround for now.04:17
GlamdringIf I see the same error in other applications, or if the problem returns without significant changes beforehand, I'll make a point of looking into it further.04:18
etohello09:53
etoare devs here too?09:53
visceraHi, can I make the Lubuntu disc load entirely to RAM so that I can remove the disc after boot?10:23
visceraI see some hacks online to do this but maybe it's built-in now?10:24
vvver_562will ubuntu 14.04 run fine with 2 gb ram?15:11

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