[00:20] akiva-thinkpad: I only have 10 mins left, is there anything you think needs to be done immediately? [00:22] DS-McGuire, no; i'm here for the next few hours [00:22] I'll play around with the css [00:24] akiva-thinkpad: Great :) I will be going to sleep soon. I assume you aren't in the UK then haha! Have fun, let me know how you get on [00:24] DS-McGuire, I'm canadian [00:25] A nephew of sorts to the ol union jack [00:25] Email me and CC in FunctionPlastic if you can if you need anything and I will get back to you asap. [00:25] I see, lucky, I don't want to sleep haah! [00:27] akiva-thinkpad: Forgot to ping you [00:27] DS-McGuire, cool beans [00:28] see you tomorrow [00:28] :P [00:28] DS-McGuire, make a habit of autojoining this irc channel [00:28] mailing lists bother me to no end [00:28] :P [00:28] akiva-thinkpad: How do I do that!? OMG, that would be so helpful! [00:29] DS-McGuire, are you using a web client [00:29] I am using Smuxi as my IRC client, [00:29] or a program like hexchat? [00:29] never heard of smuxi :P [00:29] * akiva-thinkpad checks [00:29] I like hexchat btw; i think thats what most people use [00:29] It is the USC. What are you using? I don't mind changinf. [00:30] Installed. [00:30] So easy to do haha! [00:30] heh [00:30] * akiva-thinkpad loves ubuntu [00:30] I don't know how you do that but I love it too! [00:30] smuxi looks surprisingly alot like hexchat [00:30] Right, I will set this up now and then go to bed. [00:30] DS-McGuire, ah type /me [00:30] Thanks for your help :) [00:31] * DS-McGuire learnt a new trick [00:31] you can also do this /list for a list of channels, [00:31] sweet [00:31] /part for leaving a channel with a message [00:31] Thanks :) [00:31] DS-McGuire, there is alsoa bot here you can invoke commands to [00:31] !cookie | DS-McGuire [00:31] DS-McGuire: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [00:31] That's pretty sweet! :D [00:31] DS-McGuire, and you of course know that you can use tab to autocomplete names [00:32] I know that :) [00:32] /join allows you to join other channels... mmm yah everything else you probably know [00:32] just right click the channel you are in, and set it to autojoin [00:32] You can also set it to play a noise when you join [00:33] That's awesome, thanks a lot :) [00:34] All set up :) [00:34] DS-McGuire, np; I log off when my computer is off, but I am here whenever I'm awake [00:34] daniel_, cool beans [00:34] Ah, not yet as it seems. [00:34] Need my name back. [00:34] akiva-thinkpad, I am almost the same. [00:34] /msg nickserv identify DS-McGuire password [00:35] have you registered with nickserv? [00:35] I think I have. [00:35] okay [00:35] fyi [00:35] nickserv handles your names [00:35] chanserv handles permissions of channels [00:35] Yeah, I did set it up a while ago. [00:35] !irc [00:35] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [00:36] !ask [00:36] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [00:36] yah tons of little factoids === daniel_ is now known as DS-McGuire [00:39] Hm, guess I haven't registerd. I will set it up tomorrow, thanks for getting me this far :) [00:39] akiva-thinkpad, Goodnight :) [00:39] * DS-McGuire waves [00:39] DS-McGuire, o/ [02:32] DS-McGuire, [02:32] akiva-thinkpad, Anything I can help with? [02:32] DS-McGuire, want to know a good tip on doing css editting? [02:33] akiva-thinkpad, sure [02:33] I watched a brief video, it helped tremendously [02:33] if you want to know what edits what, just right click the thing you want to edit in firefox, and go inspect element [02:34] you can hit the checkmark boxes on the right, and see what the site will look like with properties disabled [02:34] akiva-thinkpad, Oh I knew that. That's the way I was trying to do the css in the sub. [02:34] want to see the video? [02:34] ah cool [02:34] yah [02:34] Oh I didn't know the last bit!! [02:34] That's awesome! [02:34] ah [02:34] !cookies [02:34] Cookies are delicious delicacies. [02:34] yes they are [02:34] Thanks :) [02:34] haha! [02:35] i'm at the moment trying to edit the search box [02:35] the icon of the magnifying glass isnt displayed right :P [02:35] Hmm, I will take a look now, I wont change anything though without saying. [02:36] same [02:36] Awesome :) [02:36] DS-McGuire, could you edit the toolbar at the very top [02:36] so its not all in caps [02:36] ? [02:36] I will take a look :) [02:36] cool [02:37] Do you have RES? [02:37] Nevermind [02:38] DS-McGuire, don't know what that is :P [02:38] * akiva-thinkpad is not a web developer in any sense of the word [02:38] The reddit enhancement suite, a FF and chrome addon. [02:38] oh yah [02:39] I do have that [02:39] :P [02:39] Haha :P [02:39] damn this cold is getting heavy [02:39] i'm about to head to the store and pop some raw garlic and orange juice [02:39] If you're unwell don't be pushing yourself. [02:40] This can always wait :) [02:40] DS-McGuire, i'd die of boredom if that were the case [02:41] akiva-thinkpad, Haha, that's the reason I couldn't sleep :/ [02:41] DS-McGuire, heh :P [02:43] akiva-thinkpad, I have fixed the header but I cannot get it the first letter of each word to be a capitol [02:46] DS-McGuire, hmmm [02:46] still better [02:46] ubuntu is capitalized after all :P [02:46] are you working on "spacer" for the search bar? [02:47] Good :) [02:47] mmmmm a bit confusaled [02:47] I don't see why the other icons are showing [02:47] on hover it doesnt. [02:47] Yeah I can't figure that out either. [02:48] We have two search bars. [02:48] I think I need a way to inspect the non hover [02:48] we do? [02:48] Yep, inspect the very right of the current seach bar [02:48] search* [02:49] * DS-McGuire has gone to make coffee [02:49] DS-McGuire, what is ubuntufr [02:49] is that ubuntu french? [02:49] akiva-thinkpad, That is another subb reddit that I believe this css code was used from. [02:50] oh I think the other search if for search results [02:50] is* [02:50] don't take my word too strongly though [02:50] my second time editting css is bount to be full of ignorance. [02:53] Don't worry :) I think that there is a "submit" div box that is outside of the "search" box, if that makes any sense, it should be inside it. [02:53] okay doke [02:55] But I don't know how to fix it haha! [02:56] css is confusing :P [02:56] * akiva-thinkpad should probably sit down and learn the syntax [02:57] It is very haha, we will get it though :) This is how you learn. [02:57] yep [02:57] okay I have some mail I need to send regarding some code I wrote [02:57] feel free to edit at will [02:57] any chance you can take off the bold on : stylesheet [02:58] and lower the ubuntu logo (or heighten it). [02:58] Where do you want the bold removed? [02:58] i'll screenshot it [02:59] The logo I am very confused about how it actually gets rendered however I should be able to fix its spacing. [02:59] Okay :) [02:59] DS-McGuire, [02:59] http://i.imgur.com/N3cWxCr.png [02:59] DS-McGuire, btw, shutter is an amazing application [02:59] :) [02:59] I will take a look at that :) Shutter is amazing :) [02:59] uploading directly to imgur is great [03:01] Sure is :) [03:01] * DS-McGuire getting coffee [03:06] akiva-thinkpad, I cannot get it to change font, are you sure it's in bold? [03:07] fairly sure. its all caps. Anyways not that big of a deal [03:07] I am editting the reddit logo in gimp, the one with the reddit text beside it [03:07] If it helps I think I have fixed search... [03:07] nice [03:08] That's great :) [03:14] Let me know when you are done with the image you are working on, I am trying to make that orange bar smaller. [03:14] heh okay [03:14] :) [03:38] DS-McGuire, oh lol nvm [03:38] it already exists [03:38] i didn't see the white because of the white background [03:40] No problem, last thing and I am going back to sleep, take a look at the sub, do you prefer it this way or not? I was wondering if we could keep up with the origami style. [03:40] Talking about the background. [03:41] * akiva-thinkpad is looking [03:41] We would need to get rid of the white to make it look better. [03:41] looking good [03:42] Like it? [03:42] yep; better than before. [03:42] :) [03:42] Awesome, give me five more mins and I am done ;) [03:43] nice === karni-eod is now known as karni [04:57] hi i installed ubuntu sdk. However i can't see anyting on devices menu. when i selected devices menu, i just can see empty screen. have i missed something?? [04:58] Linus_, hey [04:58] Linus_, did you install ubuntu or are you still using a virtual machine? [04:58] HI ~ i installed ubuntu main O/S [04:58] :D [04:58] Linus_, did you install the latest sdk? [04:58] sec [04:59] yes it is 14.04 version [04:59] Linus_, http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/ [04:59] the one in the repositories is not as [04:59] ah [04:59] sdk [04:59] current [04:59] yes [04:59] yah [04:59] Linus_, also most of us are on 14.10 [04:59] though 14.04 should be fine [05:00] 14.10 is a bit less stable, but it has all the latest up to date things in it. [05:01] have a update?? [05:01] Linus_, uhm? [05:02] ah [05:02] Linus_, 14.10 is testing. Good for app development. [05:02] when i installed ubuntu [05:02] 14.04 is stable. [05:02] i seleced language korean [05:02] it can be problem?? [05:02] nope [05:02] :) [05:02] korean should be fine [05:03] !korean [05:03] 도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko [05:04] just in case you forgot :) [05:04] ok [05:04] Linus_, what version of the sdk do you have? [05:05] Linus_, do you have teamviewer? [05:05] not yet [05:06] i just followed ubuntu tutorial [05:06] Linus_, http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.deb [05:06] Linus_, ah good [05:06] try again :) [05:07] When you start the sdk, a wizard should come up [05:07] asking you to create an emulator [05:07] or a kit [05:07] * akiva-thinkpad has a cold [05:07] ubuntu sdk 14.10 [05:08] :D [05:08] good [05:20] i installed teamviewer [05:20] Linus_, mines still downloading [05:20] Linus_, I have a very slow connection where I am [05:20] very very very slow. [05:21] :( [05:21] fine [05:21] :D [05:21] Linus_, oh, actually, its done [05:21] whats your address? [05:22] 946 812 680 [05:22] this?? [05:22] perfect [05:22] password? [05:23] c8s88x [05:23] should be like 8027 [05:23] okay [05:29] its very slow for me so I am having difficulty interacting with this :P [05:55] jiwan, Ping [05:55] :D [05:56] go ahead; type [05:56] thank you :) [05:56] :) [05:56] can you tell me what problem is? [05:56] emulator is being created as we speak [05:56] the problem was [05:56] that you did not have the right repository installed [05:56] speak* [05:57] :) [05:57] now you will always have this [05:57] oh thank you [05:57] oh, check out this terminal: [05:57] its really useful [05:58] ok i see [05:58] you can hide it by pressing f12 ; very popular in linux [05:59] shutter is useful for screenshots [05:59] cool!! thank you [05:59] np [05:59] this is my first time using linux [05:59] so i was really counfused;; [06:02] see? [06:02] yeap [06:02] I use shutter to help explain issues with software [06:02] makes it easy to share. [06:02] ubuntu is really powerful [06:03] press the left alt [06:03] this is the hud [06:03] this allows you to execute menu commands. [06:03] type "preferences" in the hud [06:04] jiwan, sorry I have to go! [06:04] see you later === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon-brb === rmescandon-brb is now known as rmescandon [09:12] Hi [09:16] i made device but it was fail and then sudden something appeared device which was cat: [09:16] http://i.imgur.com/s7riy1q.png [09:16] it can't be removed [09:18] and also i can't make new device [11:22] hello for everyone! === _salem is now known as salem_ === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon-lunch === salem_ is now known as _salem === rmescandon-lunch is now known as rmescandon [13:51] nik90: do you want the clock pushed to store? [13:51] * popey is sat next to balloons so this is an ideal opportunity if so [13:53] popey: can you ask rpadovani to review https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/dynamic-pageheadstate-load/+merge/238594 and https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/unload-innerclocktexture/+merge/238630. after which we can push to store [13:53] rpadovani: ^^ [13:53] * balloons floats expectingly [13:53] on it [13:56] thn [13:56] thnx* [13:56] nice one [14:00] jdstrand, ping [14:01] ahayzen: carries on after phone is disconnected... dnuno if it will continue to next track [14:01] popey, hah reopen the app choose another song then hit stop [14:02] uh, its still playing after i close the app! [14:02] popey, thanks for testing :) we're really close to being confined now [14:07] nik90, I found a bug testing your branches, but not related: try to create an alarm and deactivate it, it sounds anyway! [14:08] rpadovani: I remember facing this issue a long time ago, I thought I was imaging stuff since I couldn't get charles to reproduce it [14:08] launchapd goes crazy ...bahhh [14:09] rpadovani: can you check on https://launchpad.net/indicator-datetime for my old report and reopen it with your comments [14:09] nik90, I'm pretty sure, it happens both on pc and on phone [14:10] rpadovani: so you get the issue using trunk as well? or only when you add my branch? [14:11] nik90, also on trunk: on phone I have the store version [14:11] ok [14:11] nik90, I don't find your old bug... [14:11] I haven't made changes to the alarm switch code, [14:12] yeah I searched for it as well, cant find it [14:19] vthompson, try this https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/remix-image-size-fix/+merge/238883 [14:19] ahayzen, will do in a few [14:19] vthompson, :) [14:21] nik90, approved both === renato is now known as Guest73089 [14:21] thnx rpadovani === JamesTait is now known as Guest71840 [14:27] boiko: hey , here is MR for calculator on which we are waiting for design reviews , https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1365564/+merge/233400 [14:27] rpadovani: i see some conflicts on MR , can you check and updates ? [14:27] mihir: nice, let me see what I can do [14:29] mihir_, sure [14:31] rpadovani, mzanetti, can you reproduce bug 1382730 ? [14:31] bug 1382730 in Ubuntu Reminders app "Cannot create new notes" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382730 [14:31] * mzanetti tries [14:32] popey: who is cmake expert near by ? [14:32] mihir_: what up? [14:32] hey mzanetti [14:33] dpm: works for me [14:33] we will need some help to make cmake work for calendar. [14:33] mihir_: is there a branch I should look at? [14:34] mzanetti: wait i'll give you it's an old branch need merge will do that now. === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait [14:35] dpm: I'm afraid its the issue where the server just stops responding for some reason. still haven't found a way to reproduce though. just happens sometimes [14:36] mzanetti, weird, though. I can still read notes. In any case, it's still reproduceable on my phone [14:38] dpm: hmm... does it happen all the time for you? [14:38] dpm: coffee break now. lets discuss that in person there [14:45] mzanetti, yeah, coming in a minute, I can show you on my phone [14:48] mzanetti, where are you? [15:03] http://i.imgur.com/m11RiS8.png [15:03] hi [15:03] i have question [15:04] how to install developer tools?? [15:04] after this message, emulator is exit [15:05] dpm: hey, found the issue. one liner, rpadovani is fixing [15:12] mzanetti, dpm https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/1382730/+merge/238904 === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon-afk [15:27] popey, balloons: Feel free to upload clock app rev 157 to store. [15:27] Hi all guys! [15:27] Can someone explain me how to use mirscreencast please :)? [15:29] rpadovani, thanks for the superquick fix! I added a comment -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/1382730/+merge/238904 [15:30] dpm, you're right [15:30] * rpadovani goes to hide [15:31] himself [15:31] rpadovani, ok, applying your patch to the right file fixes the problem. Does the fix need to be applied in both places? [15:31] dpm, yes, I applied only in tablet version [15:32] hey mzanetti [15:32] here is MP https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/filesRestructure/ [15:32] dpm, pushed [15:32] it works with desktop , but it has some build Dir issues , would be great if you can help. [15:33] mzanetti: ^^ [15:33] ok === _salem is now known as salem_ [15:38] mzanetti: thank you. === Guest73089 is now known as renatu [15:41] renatu, I was talking about this defect [15:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1347836 [15:41] Ubuntu bug 1347836 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Events saved to birthdays calendar don't appear in timeline" [High,Confirmed] [15:42] vthompson, try this again now :) https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/remix-image-size-fix/+merge/238883 [15:51] kunal, ok this should be easy to implement [15:51] renatu: could you help us on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1362781 [15:51] Ubuntu bug 1362781 in Ubuntu Calendar App "After date recurrence end is not functioning." [High,Confirmed] [15:52] renatu: the recurrence of dates is not functioning as it should. [15:52] mihir, could you create a small example with the problem? I will take a look tonight [16:00] popey, our daily standup meeting is at lunch time? [16:00] ahayzen: we could probably move that ☻ [16:00] or you can go without food [16:00] YOUR CHOICE! [16:01] popey, well we are all here so maybe just meet for lunch would be easiest :) [16:01] kk [16:06] Anybody have any feedback for the design (CSS) of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuAppDev === salem_ is now known as _salem [16:15] renatu: here is the example :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-ndZxmwbBE&feature=youtu.be [16:15] renatu: let me know if you required any more information. [16:15] mihir, I need a qml example :D [16:15] a small code [16:17] renatu: bahhh , qml code for ? sorry i am lost. [16:17] mihir, a small qml code with the bug [16:17] a simple qml file where I can easily reproduce the bug [16:29] mihir_: lp:~mzanetti/ubuntu-calendar-app/some-cmake-fixes [16:29] mihir_: it should work on the phone again [16:29] probably not perfect yet [16:32] mzanetti: i'll merge with my trunk and will update you , thanks a lot. === mihir_ is now known as mihir [16:37] * DanChapman can tell it's sprint week as his inbox is getting hammered === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [17:21] vthompson, http://pad.ubuntu.com/BZrLMRFlu7 [17:29] beuno: can we talk about multiple versions of apps in the store at some point this week please? [17:31] beuno, and adding an API we can use in the ContentPeerPicker to recommend apps that provide content handlers :) === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === _salem is now known as salem_ [17:52] jhodapp: hey, indeed, SoundEffect doesn't suffer from this [17:52] mzanetti, nice! [17:53] mzanetti, so it's acceptable? [17:53] jhodapp: I guess the fact that Audio is blocking so much is still an issue. But relativates the urgency [17:53] mzanetti, can you add a description of what you used to your bug report for reference? [17:54] sure [17:55] thanks [18:26] popey, MAYBE [18:29] beuno: MAKE IT SO! [19:10] hey mzanetti probably this is regarding CMake , not sure but could you check , http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic-python3/1072/console ? [19:14] dpm, where are you? [19:15] hi rpadovani, at the Beverly room [19:15] dpm, do you have 5 minutes? [19:15] balloons, ping [19:16] ahayzen, getting late here. I might be tottering off to bed [19:17] rpadovani, perhaps in ~15 mins at the coffee break? [19:17] dpm, sure, no problems! [19:17] balloons, late? ... jenkins is failing with that issue where the screen is too wide again [19:18] balloons, in the past 3/4 attempts 2 have failed :/ [19:18] balloons, eg http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic-python3/1073/artifact/music_app.tests.test_music.TestMainWindow.test_next_previous%20%28with%20mouse%29.ogv [19:21] fginther, ^^ [19:21] fginther, looks like something happened with the window manager / xserver size changes [19:23] did you commit the config so it didn't get lost on generation? [19:23] balloons, the xvfb content is still there [19:24] balloons, it's there in the console log :/ [19:25] fginther, to be fair I didn't read the log :-) [19:28] mzanetti, well, your fix for switching account doesn't work properly. It actually loads a new account, but doesn't disconnect from the old one, so you have notes from both accounts [19:30] rpadovani: hmm... right... well, that's not that place [19:30] rpadovani: we need to clear the model somewhere [19:30] let me see [19:31] fginther, ahh right.. I see the 400x600 line at the bottom [19:31] mzanetti, seems evernote guys hasn't tested the switch account, lol [19:31] * rpadovani installs evernote on android [19:31] mzanetti: let me know when you get some time, will see at your place. [19:32] fginther, but I don't see anything about the window manager [19:33] rpadovani: yeah.. :) [19:37] Hi [19:39] rpadovani: something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8605636/ [19:46] balloons, I'll try to find you before EOD [19:49] balloons: http://popey.com/~alan/com.ubuntu.filemanager_0.3.latest_amd64.click could you upload that pls? [19:53] balloons: also http://popey.com/~alan/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.5.latest_amd64.click please [19:54] ah crap, filename might be a problem. [19:54] balloons: file manager should be 0.3.303 and terminal should be 0.5.161. [20:07] popey, version is indeed bad [20:07] https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/157/changerequest/ [20:07] reject both uploads [20:12] DS-McGuire, ping [20:12] akiva-thinkpad, ping [20:12] pong [20:12] hah! [20:12] DS-McGuire, nice work [20:12] akiva-thinkpad, Thank you :) [20:12] I like the "App-Dev" [20:13] there are still bits of work to do, but now its at a point where it looks sane [20:13] DS-McGuire, what you working on now? [20:14] akiva-thinkpad, I am creating a very simple logo for the top left so it doesn't just say "Ubuntu". [20:14] Top left? Isn't there a logo beside it already? [20:16] Yeah, that's the reddit logo, take a look, you will see. [20:18] DS-McGuire: can you move the "hot, new, rising" quick links below the header like in most subreddits? it otherwise appears too big [20:18] nik90, hey o/ [20:18] hows it going? [20:18] akiva-thinkpad: hey [20:18] just had dinner [20:18] ah lucky fellow [20:18] nik90, what did you eat? [20:18] Roti? [20:18] :D [20:19] akiva-thinkpad: lol...no I had calzone [20:19] ah :P [20:19] nik90, I am struggling a lot with that bloody banner. I will do that but honeslty for now I don't see it to be a massive issue. I wanted the sub reddit to mimick this web page: http://design.ubuntu.com/web-style-guide [20:19] oh this is nice stuff [20:19] DS-McGuire: ah ok, np [20:20] nice work DS-McGuire [20:20] akiva-thinkpad, Thank you, I am very proud of how sharp that banner looks on my 1080p screen. [20:21] I love that effect at the top, with the diagonal lining edge [20:22] Which bit? I am confused. Use shutter :) [20:24] DS-McGuire, http://i.imgur.com/CrZsp1g.png [20:25] akiva-thinkpad, I see what you mean, I like that too :) [20:28] Hi is anyone here familiar with Gnome Nanny? [20:29] Jarli, o_O [20:29] whats that? [20:30] ah parental control [20:30] Jarli, why; are you looking to edit the source code? [20:30] A parental control tool that seems to have died out, but its wonderful in power [20:30] I was considering it, but I need to get a baring on how it was built [20:30] Jarli, ah good to know [20:31] there is a ton of possibility there for it, one of my biggest grips with it is there is absolutely no documentation with it [20:31] Jarli, is there an api? [20:31] for example it uses dansguardian, and .nbl files (compiled black list) in some special format for it [20:31] you can still dl it [20:32] The last reported change on it was back in 2010... [20:32] interesting. [20:32] But I tested it last ngith and it works great [20:32] Jarli, some apps are like that :P [20:32] besides the huge fact that you either need to find the stock .nbl (online) or add every blacklisted site individually [20:33] which is rather painful to do [20:33] ah so you want to streamline that? [20:33] I do, even if ti was importing just a plain text document rather than this .nbl file [20:34] Jarli, I havnt worked with gnome apps all that much, but I do know they have an sdk [20:35] I think jono bacon did a tutorial way back using it; I bet you would be able to import it into that, and start working on it. [20:35] I havent ever worked with them, but I'm willing to to bring this app back, it has a ton of potential to be a new standard [20:35] Jarli, do you want to rewrite the UI in QML? [20:36] I quiet honestly don't even know where to begin, I havent done any linux programming ever [20:37] Jarli, ah very cool [20:37] good for you to be honest :) [20:37] So what do you like most about the application? Its functionality, or its user interface, or what? [20:37] What do you want to preserve? [20:38] The tools it has built in are everything a parent would want, (why something like sugar and qimo don't have this functionality is beyond me) but it needs to be built [20:38] Time restricts, allowed websites, and blacklist functionality [20:39] Jarli, alright so you are more about the functionality [20:39] do you plan on having this be used long term on Ubuntu? [20:39] so a parent doesn't have to helicopter around their child all the time, making sure some adult content doesn't appear when they are online [20:39] got it ;) [20:39] i'm trying to find the source for it... [20:41] Jarli, the last commit was 2014 actually :) [20:41] was it, where? [20:41] can you provide the link? [20:41] ah but it was all translations [20:41] Jarli, download bazar explorer [20:42] (on windows atm) [20:42] i'll show you how to branch this [20:42] okay, well uninstall windows [20:42] haha [20:42] at work [20:42] akiva-thinkpad, hahaah! [20:42] can I get back to this chat in say 15 minutes? [20:42] gotta drive home [20:42] and penalize yourself whatever you think is fair. [20:42] ah yah [20:42] I'm here for the next 8 hours [20:44] I'll be back. Thanks [20:46] akiva-thinkpad, What else needs to be done? I can't think of anything. [20:46] mihir, can you and kunal look at the utc issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1291225 [20:46] Ubuntu bug 1291225 in Ubuntu Calendar App "autopilot tests fail when run in UTC+1 timezone" [High,Confirmed] [20:46] mihir, tomorrow veebers and I and yourselves I hope are going to try and land the fix for the autopilot date picker issue [20:47] remember the overflow error? [20:47] DS-McGuire, the font on the buttons need to be unbolded, and made larger. [20:48] akiva-thinkpad, Sure, will take a look now :) [20:48] mihir, https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1328600 [20:48] Ubuntu bug 1328600 in Autopilot "Autopilot lacks support for large timestamps" [High,In progress] [20:49] DS-McGuire, Also I can't tell, but I think the black text on the sidebar needs to be replaced with coolGrey [20:49] akiva-thinkpad, Yeah, I did notice that earlier. [20:49] * akiva-thinkpad is working on the filemanager app [20:55] bah wish dpm was kicking around [21:00] balloons: yup i do remember [21:03] balloons: so we need to update AP according to that. [21:06] Just starting up a live CD [21:06] Jarli, good to hear :) [21:06] Jarli, do you not use ubuntu regularly? [21:06] but does this look "easy enough" from what you've seen? [21:07] and where did you see that this was last updated this year? [21:07] Jarli, its all logic, so its simple in that sense. [21:07] Jarli, on launchpad [21:07] its was a translation though [21:07] not a feature [21:07] * akiva-thinkpad is trying to think of the oldest app he still uses... [21:07] I run windows for the bulk of my systems (gaming rigs) servers and other devices Ubuntu constantly, kids laptop Qimo [21:08] oh neat [21:08] Jarli, well now that steam is available on Ubuntu, you may be able to do all your gaming on ubuntu. [21:08] Just dling the live cd, should only be another minute or two [21:08] Although to be honest, I sort of hate games; they distract me from getting work done! [21:08] :P [21:09] take your time [21:09] eh im doing the Nanny for a cousin really (and his parent) the functionality that I want is already there [21:09] it just needs to be refined, and maybe simplified for the blacklist importing portion [21:10] Jarli, do you want to hardcode blacklists in? [21:10] No, I want to make the functionality of ading multiple blacklisted domains easier [21:11] thats it? Okay. Do you want to fork it, or do you want to see if your patch will be merged? [21:11] as it is now, adding domains to the blacklist or whitelist is cumbersome, (name description and url, the import blacklist function from what I can see only supports .nbl files (which I can't figure out how to compile) [21:12] Jarli, mmmm, interesting. [21:12] * akiva-thinkpad thinks jarli is going to have fun :) [21:13] smashing my head against a wall eh? [21:13] Jarli, only if its written in c++ [21:14] (which it probably is) [21:14] do you have the source to look at it? [21:14] sec [21:16] Jarli, let me know when you have it installed [21:17] Jarli, oh and feel free to ask any question, even if its really stupid [21:17] I will don't worry [21:17] although i take it you have some programming experience on windows? [21:18] Some, mostly very short scripts [21:18] ah looks like this is python [21:18] its your lucky day :) [21:18] to remove the mundanity from the repetitive tasks [21:18] * akiva-thinkpad whips out geany [21:19] the boss is only giving my 30 minutes to work on this. (damn her parents always calling us down to eat) don't they know I have things I wanna do [21:20] nik90, this is a really weird bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1383484 [21:20] Jarli, your wife? [21:20] Ubuntu bug 1383484 in Ubuntu Clock App "Alarm time selection jumps around after timezone has been changed more than once" [Undecided,New] [21:20] might as well be, we've been together for yearas [21:20] years* [21:21] Jarli, propose to her; you get tax credits if you are married I hear :P [21:21] 500MB left to go [21:21] only if you get bumped into a higher tax bracket ( ie going from making 50Grand a year single) to 120g a year married [21:22] Jarli, move to canada then :P [21:22] you can do income splitting, or at least you will be able to. [21:22] We would get bumped up some, but it wouldn't even be worth it with the way the US tax laws are, I'd probably end up paying more [21:23] Jarli, You know what I love; burger king [21:23] Good ol canadian burger king [21:23] :) [21:23] hahaha, yeah.... you're funny akiva-thinkpad [21:24] you know what I love, good ol american Tim Hortins [21:24] Jarli, no thats canadian ; headquarters in Canada [21:24] haha, I know [21:24] Jarli, something about lower taxes [21:24] it was a jab that a US company bought them [21:24] BK what a load of crap that is [21:25] Jarli, hey hey; thats what you get for having high corporate tax rates. [21:25] buys TH, to move it's HQ to canada to save on taxes, the US should triple tax them [21:25] Yah, then what you should do is built a berlin wall [21:25] 90% of the top corporations pay less that 1% of there total tax bill if they were a human being [21:26] you know, to keep the canadians out (and not the americans in) :P [21:26] ha [21:26] It might work, until russia attacks america through canada [21:26] then it'll be keeping the russians out [21:26] that land bridge and all, that Sarah can see from her back yeard [21:26] yard*, the ditz [21:27] nah; russians military is not organized enough. [21:28] akiva-thinkpad: can we trade contact information because I don't know if I'll be able to get started on this [21:28] who needs to be organized if have a tank... I mean come'on [21:29] Jarli, yah np [21:29] i'm always in this channel when I'm on [21:29] so [21:29] my lp page is [21:29] ah dpm [21:29] anyways [21:29] my lp page is: https://launchpad.net/~akiva [21:30] very good [21:30] I don't have a lp page, but maybe [21:31] anyway I can send you my private details on that LP site? [21:32] Jarli, make yourself an lp page [21:33] doing it now [21:33] and if you want to grab me, i'm always online here. I hate communicating over email [21:33] * veebers waves to mihir [21:33] hey veebers [21:33] mihir: balloons tells me your working on the calendar app :-) [21:34] conference/canonical? Is there something going on right now? [21:34] mihir is the calendar app expert [21:34] veebers: yup kunal and I are working on calendar [21:34] * akiva-thinkpad really should get his merge up to snuff. [21:35] akiva-thinkpad: just sent you a message on LP [21:36] cool [21:36] Jarli, enjoy your dinner [21:41] dpm, can you offer feedback to this :http://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuAppDev/comments/2jq6g5/feedback_xlarge_large_or_medium_for_the/ [21:41] its the headers utilizing different font sizes. [21:41] mihir, kunal awesome, me must get together this week re: autopilot, datetime and calendar testing etc. :-) (I'm sure balloons has already suggested this) [21:43] veebers: he has just few mins back , sitting next to us :D [21:43] ^_^ [21:43] Also most of your suggestions have been implimented. I am unfamiliar with the dialer functionality that you speak of, and so I will need a screenshot to work off of. Was this functionality in before? [21:43] dpm ^ [21:43] how can I get the list of selected indexes with the optionselector? [21:43] veebers: sure let us know what kind of things would like to test to fix this issue and figure it out whether it is (Calendar,Test Case ,AP) :P [21:44] gcollura, an index in a list I presume? [21:44] list item * [21:44] ah opion selector. [21:45] mihir: can you provide some details for me to eyeball: where the testcase is, what the error is and the easiest way to run the test for myself [21:45] gcollura, the property is selectedIndex as I recall. [21:47] akiva-thinkpad, take a look at the buttons on the right, what do you think? [21:47] veebers: sure let me get into that , i vaguely remember anything , and how to break that test :D :P [21:47] DS-McGuire, ah the spacing is nice! and it matches the search [21:47] you read my mind [21:48] text needs to be centered, and the spacing width needs to be set to 0px [21:48] and the text should be a bit bigger imho [21:48] mihir: sweet. Lets make sure to meet f2f about this during this week while we're all in the same place [21:48] akiva-thinkpad, Fantasic, it needs some tweaking but I will do that another day. I am very tired today so I will call it a day. I will be here tomorrow. [21:48] * DS-McGuire waves goodbye [21:48] DS-McGuire, it looks great [21:48] o/ [21:48] o/ [21:50] akiva-thinkpad, I've set multiSelection: true, I think selectedIndex doesn't work in this case [21:50] akiva-thinkpad, it might be worth sending a couple of screenshots showing the different options with the different font sizes [21:51] akiva-thinkpad, but in theory, is there not a standard size for the header font already? [21:51] dpm, right now its set at large. Do you know if there is a bool flag I can use to see if the platform is currently a phone? [21:51] dpm, I always assumed it was x-large, but as you can see, on a phone, that does not leave much space for a path to be displayed. [21:52] dpm, I'm fine with either, but considering you are pretty much mark shuttleworth, I'd pass it by you. [21:53] dpm, one thing we could do is display the full path in the dark grey seperator at the bottom of the header. Ive seen some apps do things like this. [21:54] akiva-thinkpad: hi, there was something you wanted to discuss? [21:54] (it's Arto) [21:54] akiva-thinkpad, yeah, that could be a good idea, have a look at calendar perhaps [21:54] ajalkane, ah hey [21:54] popey, so did we fix the clicks? [21:54] ajalkane, well right now I am at a stand still as to what to do next, and whether its fit to start rewriting the tests. [21:55] Since you and dpm are here, I was hoping to get some final feedback. [21:56] dpm, when you talked about having history, well we now have the latest path history that is always displayed until you change the path, and we also have the back button. [21:57] ajalkane, one thing I do not know how to do, is to perform a check on whether the device running hte app is currently a phone, so I am not sure how to hide the unlock full access option. [21:57] does all this make sense? [21:57] akiva-thinkpad, yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about showing the history. I think if we end up implementing it, it should be on a different branch [21:58] yeah, I would hold off about the test writing for a bit. Until the functionality has been reviewed, I think there might some twiggling as this is quite big (but necessary) change). Otherwise you might end up redoing the tests many times. [21:58] dpm, okay so great; I can defer that until after? [21:58] ajalkane, yes, my thoughts exactly. I like how its ended up. [21:58] akiva-thinkpad: the logic how to do it is in current branch. I'll dig it up, just a sec [21:58] akiva-thinkpad, yeah, that sounds reasonable [21:59] dpm, cool beans. Thanks for your feedback. Before I start writing the tests, do I need to find someone on the design team to bug? [21:59] akiva-thinkpad: basically it's enough to inspect this variable: pageModel.onlyMTPPaths [22:00] if that is true, "Unlock full access" needs to be shown. [22:00] ajalkane, interesting; thanks [22:00] I'll go check that out now. [22:00] About the places menu and the pull-up thingy... [22:00] akiva-thinkpad, I think it's fine. We're at the Canonical sprint this week, along with the designers. I'll see if we can chase some of them for you [22:01] dpm, cool beans. [22:01] I think the most important stuff should be in the header as buttons. Secondary important things (Create folder perhaps?) could be easily accessible from the pull-up thingy. The least important things IMO in the header's "left-overs" button, dunno what's that called. [22:01] That's how I feel anyway, but other opinions are insteresting [22:02] Another thing, you replaces "up" with "back". Is there yet any way to get "up" in the hierarchy now? [22:02] ajalkane, yes [22:02] double click the current folder [22:02] that goes up? [22:02] so if you are in home, double click "home" [22:03] yes [22:03] okay... could it be single-click? Is there a drawback to having it single-click? [22:03] ajalkane, Not really; I just wanted to be modest [22:03] haha.. [22:04] yeah no I like that as up, but single click would be even greater [22:04] ajalkane, its there, but it won't confuse anyone [22:04] ajalkane, okay I'll change it [22:04] Thanks, that's great [22:04] :) [22:05] During this week I have pretty much time to put into this, so I'm happy to review and test and comment on this branch you're working on [22:05] ajalkane, afaik, I can only have two icons up in the header, unless I do something with the flickable. [22:05] ajalkane, thats great. one thing I want to get implimented, [22:05] Ok... I'm not well-versed with all the restrictions with that [22:06] ajalkane, it was a learning experience for me too :p [22:06] ajalkane, what do you think of this: on the folder part [22:06] like not the header, but the flickable with all the folders [22:06] I'm thinking left swipe should go "up" [22:07] and right swipe should go to "down" I guess you would call it [22:07] I've thought about that also [22:07] ajalkane, its possible with this branch now [22:07] if you want to do it, and then merge it into this branch, i mean [22:08] with all that time you have available :) [22:08] :P [22:08] though "down" does not make any sense. It'd make sense with "back" and "forward" [22:08] ajalkane, Well back goes backwards in history [22:08] not up one directory. [22:08] yeah, then right swipe would go forward in history [22:09] oh you want to do it by history? ah [22:09] * akiva-thinkpad kicks himself for removing that functionality [22:09] because there's several possible ways to go "down" in dir hierarchy it doesn't make sense. History on the other hand is not problematic [22:09] I was working on forward history before [22:09] I decided against it. === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [22:10] ajalkane, mmmmm no, you could go down in dir heirarchy in my branch, as long as you already went up [22:10] oh nice. It's not bad idea, though I'm not sure what the Touch designers would think about that [22:10] ah so it was kind of history [22:10] ajalkane, yes :P [22:10] memoryRow [22:11] ajalkane, are there any blue prints in place by the way? [22:12] ajalkane, Do you think the filemanager should have a select, drag to another folder option? [22:12] Blueprints as in "todo" lists, yes. As in detailed UI designs, no, as FileManager has always been a not-so-core core app ;) [22:12] heh [22:12] akiva-thinkpad: yes sure, and multiselect. At least in the future. [22:13] ajalkane, how would that work with touch though [22:13] Those are definitely things that are useful to work on. Multiselect is already implemented in file selector mode [22:13] because if you click with your finger to draw one of those rectangles... [22:13] basically I think perhaps some button that would go to multiselect mode, and then you could click each item you want to select [22:13] oh yah that is right [22:14] ajalkane, ah interesting, like a toggle [22:14] ajalkane, I was thinking also maybe a two finger pinch [22:14] err [22:14] the opposite of a pinch === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:16] I think very simple solutions are good for such mobile apps. There could be "select all" somewhere to select a whole bunch of files [22:16] but I'll have to be away now for some time [22:16] ajalkane, oh yah a select all option would be great. [22:19] ajalkane, do you have much experience with keypress functionality. Looking at the blueprint; backspace to go up seems like a reasonable idea [23:22] I need to link QuaZip/-lz to my project in the CMakeLists.txt. I only know how to do this on a .project file... How can I link to the external library to be able to use QuaZip? [23:31] vitimiti, didn't you solve this issue already :P [23:31] I think not [23:31] It keeps with the same errors [23:31] bah foiled again [23:32] vitimiti, do you love cmake yet? [23:32] akiva-thinkpad, it was easier with the .project file, but well... [23:32] yep :/ [23:33] undefined symbol: _ZN6QuaZipC1ERK7QString <- It's the only error, so it should be the linking of the library [23:35] I have tried with find_package, but the module doesn't seem to be there