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| willcooke | morning all | 10:27 |
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| pitti | GunnarHj: hey! sorry for the delay, I basically spent the whole weekend travelling; I'm looking at your bug now | 10:41 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: No problem, Martin. | 10:47 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 12:20 |
| darkxst | hey seb128, pretty late morning for you? | 12:21 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst | 12:21 |
| seb128 | we are in Washington this week | 12:22 |
| seb128 | it's 8am here ;-) | 12:22 |
| darkxst | heh there you go, sneaky timezone change ;) | 12:23 |
| seb128 | indeed | 12:23 |
| pitti | hey darkxst, how are you? | 12:24 |
| darkxst | hey pitti, good but tired, its probably past my bed time again | 12:24 |
| didrocks | hey darkxst ;) | 12:35 |
| darkxst | hey didrocks | 12:35 |
| darkxst | how are you? your in washington as well? | 12:35 |
| didrocks | darkxst: yeah, back from Japan on Friday evening, stayed a day in France and in Washington now | 12:38 |
| didrocks | my body doesn't really know what timezone it is in right now TBH :) | 12:39 |
| darkxst | didrocks, that happens! | 12:41 |
| darkxst | maybe you can come visit Ubuntu GNOME Australia next ;) that will whack your timezones! | 12:43 |
| didrocks | darkxst: indeed, then a stop in south america and back home ;) | 12:43 |
| darkxst | didrocks, Aus is too large though, Ali just moved here (our non-technical stuff leader) and noskcaj is here, but its like international europe type travel to catch up | 12:49 |
| darkxst | so you should come to melbourne and not sydnet like ali ;) | 12:49 |
| didrocks | hehe ;) At least, you have multiple timezones and so have sane light hours, not like China where there is just one timezone for everybody. | 12:50 |
| darkxst | didrocks, well perth has its own timezone | 12:51 |
| darkxst | Adelaide don't count, its only half an hour off ours | 12:51 |
| didrocks | ah, indeed, those 30 minutes timezones… | 12:52 |
| darkxst | then you have brisbane who refuse to have daylight savings, so they become their own time zone in summer | 12:54 |
| darkxst | (upsets the cows apparently) | 12:55 |
| didrocks | interesting… not easy to coordinate on times when you have meetings I guess :) | 12:56 |
| darkxst | didrocks, organising meeting is a bit of nightmare, but thats more due the international aspect combined with when people are free from their real jobs | 13:00 |
| didrocks | yeah, that part is quite hard. I remembered before I entered canonical having to hurry up in the evening or leaving slightly early for some ubuntu meetings (even local ones in Paris) or going late | 13:01 |
| czajkowski | aloha :) just wondering if this bug is on the radar for release this week ? bug 1235567 | 13:06 |
| ubot5 | bug 1235567 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus-ui-gtk3 crashed with SIGABRT" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235567 | 13:06 |
| seb128 | happyaron, ^ | 13:12 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, hey | 13:13 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, wasn't that fixed with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/1.5.8-2ubuntu2 ? | 13:13 |
| seb128 | oh, maybe not | 13:13 |
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| Laney | yo | 13:39 |
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| czajkowski | seb128: nope :( just did updates and restart still the same | 14:02 |
| willcooke_ | seb128, is didrocks with you? Could you ask him to log in to IRC if he can | 14:16 |
| seb128 | willcooke_, yeah, we are sitting together, he's on the Canonical IRC, joining here | 14:16 |
| willcooke_ | thx seb128 | 14:17 |
| Laney | slacker | 14:17 |
| willcooke_ | :) | 14:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey! | 14:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, how is the nautilus upload review going? | 14:17 |
| Laney | 20/10 15:03:30 <Laney> Where are we with accepting stuff / britney blocks / respins? | 14:18 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:18 |
| seb128 | wrong tz! | 14:18 |
| Laney | if not then it can be an SRU | 14:19 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, do you use ibus? how do you trigger the bug? | 14:31 |
| seb128 | running the binary by hand doesn't sigabrt here | 14:31 |
| czajkowski | seb128: happens on start up and launching chromium | 14:33 |
| seb128 | hum, k | 14:33 |
| larsu | mvo: software-properties doesn't build. Do you know about that? | 14:35 |
| mvo | larsu: I don't - do you have a link or does it not build locally for you? | 14:35 |
| mvo | larsu: did you do bzr-buildpackage? or how did you build it? | 14:35 |
| larsu | mvo: locally with bzr bd, yes: http://paste.debian.net/127738/ | 14:36 |
| mvo | larsu: hmmm, "(setup.py:1915): Gdk-ERROR **: error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment." ? is this something in glib that changed? | 14:37 |
| mvo | larsu: I suspsect this comes from the python-setuptools-extra auto magic | 14:38 |
| desrt | mvo: more likely something in the login stuff | 14:38 |
| desrt | this variable should always be set | 14:39 |
| larsu | I guess it's not set in whatever env python builds stuff? | 14:39 |
| mvo | desrt: unless its build in a environment with "env -i" | 14:39 |
| desrt | we fall back to using ~/.cache/ by default | 14:39 |
| desrt | this error is not coming from gdk..... | 14:40 |
| desrt | there is no mention of the word RUNTIME anywhere in the source | 14:40 |
| desrt | (of all of gtk) | 14:41 |
| mvo | desrt, larsu: "env -i python setup.py build" makes it fail hard | 14:41 |
| desrt | mvo: can you get a backtrace on the path that causes this error to pop out? | 14:42 |
| desrt | between larsu and i we can't imagine a way that it could come from gtk/gdk/glib | 14:42 |
| larsu | mvo: where does this error come from? setup.py doesn't have the lines that the output complains about | 14:42 |
| * larsu doesn't know anything about python's setup stuff | 14:42 | |
| mvo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8602545/ | 14:43 |
| mvo | larsu: its much deeper down it seems | 14:43 |
| desrt | wayland win | 14:43 |
| mvo | yeah | 14:43 |
| mvo | my thought exactly | 14:43 |
| desrt | i bet gdk registers a log output function with wayland | 14:43 |
| desrt | and verbatim-prints the message as it comes back | 14:43 |
| desrt | i think i heard before that wayland violates the spec a bit here | 14:44 |
| desrt | "If $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set applications should fall back to a replacement directory with similar capabilities and print a warning message" -- says desrt in the spec | 14:44 |
| mvo | larsu, desrt: do you want to take care of this or should I change connect_to_socket() to not fail hard but instead use the glib fallback? | 14:46 |
| desrt | mvo: already on the case | 14:47 |
| mvo | desrt: great, thanks | 14:47 |
| larsu | mvo: thanks :) | 14:47 |
| mvo | larsu: thanks for brining it up | 14:47 |
| desrt | mvo: you may try setting GDK_BACKEND=x11 | 14:47 |
| desrt | maybe this won't fail as hard? | 14:48 |
| desrt | (ie: avoid running the bad code) | 14:48 |
| mvo | desrt: right, I would really like to fix it in either python-setuptools-extra or wayland itself as it will probably affect everything that uses the setuptools-extra stuff | 14:49 |
| mvo | desrt: so my inclination would be to add a patch to our wayland to use the same fallback dir that glib is using in this case | 14:49 |
| desrt | mvo: we need to fix it in wayland or figure out a way to avoid it in gdk.... | 14:49 |
| mvo | desrt: or could wayland simply use glib to get this directory? | 14:49 |
| mvo | desrt: yeah | 14:49 |
| desrt | could be as simple as early-aborting init of the gdk wayland backend if we detect this variable unset | 14:49 |
| mvo | sounds good to me as well | 14:50 |
| desrt | mvo: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738873 | 14:58 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 738873 in Backend: Wayland "wayland backend aborts entire program if XDG_RUNTIME_DIR unset" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 14:58 |
| seb128 | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1425 | 15:05 |
| seb128 | new name is out! | 15:06 |
| desrt | robert_ancell: bug list? | 15:06 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=gtk-mir) | 15:07 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=gtk-mir | 15:07 |
| * desrt has a couple of his own | 15:07 | |
| robert_ancell | tag em | 15:07 |
| Trevinho | marga: hey, have you been able to save some time for checking the SRU bugs you reported? | 15:08 |
| Trevinho | marga: as SRU is slowing down... | 15:08 |
| larsu | seb128: cool! | 15:08 |
| marga | Trevinho, sorry, these past weeks have been awful. | 15:09 |
| marga | The new NVIDIA drivers were a disaster | 15:09 |
| Trevinho | marga: oh... I'm sorry for that | 15:09 |
| Trevinho | marga: anyway, if you can get these verifications done quickly, we can move to the next SRU with more lockscreen fixes (so you don't need that ppa anymore) | 15:17 |
| mvo | larsu: thanks for your softare-properites branch, is this something we want to upload into utopic at this point ? or is this SRU material? (my gut feeling is SRU) | 15:35 |
| mvo | larsu: is there a open bug for this already? | 15:37 |
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| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Hi Robert! | 18:44 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, hello | 18:44 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Have you noticed that lightdm trunk and the Ubuntu branch are out of sync? | 18:45 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, the ubuntu branch is from lp:lightdm/1.12 | 18:45 |
| robert_ancell | which I think is in sync | 18:46 |
| robert_ancell | trunk will be used for vivid | 18:46 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Then I see. Thanks! :) | 18:46 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, did you want to propose your change into utopic? We'll have to SRU it if so | 18:47 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: No, I supposed it was too late anyway. | 18:47 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: But I'll probably propose SRUs to utopic and trusty. | 18:48 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 18:48 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Btw, do you use respective trunk for SRUs also? | 18:49 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, yes | 18:49 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Ok, then I know. | 18:50 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, so just do the paperwork for the Launchpad bug, propose it for the appropriate release and do a MP to backport the changes | 18:50 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Right, I know what's into it. | 18:51 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: As a starter, could you please create the tasks at bug #678421? | 18:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 678421 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Error message for a faulty ~/.profile script" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678421 | 18:53 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, sure | 18:53 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, all done | 18:56 |
| GunnarHj | robert_ancell: Thanks! | 18:56 |
| larsu | attente_: hey, are you around? | 20:40 |
| soren | The recent files/folders that Unity shows... Where does that come from? | 20:40 |
| attente_ | larsu: hey | 20:41 |
| attente_ | how's washington? | 20:41 |
| larsu | attente_: we miss you :) | 20:41 |
| Laney | lonely without you | 20:41 |
| attente_ | :) | 20:41 |
| larsu | attente_: I hear I should talk to you about input methods :) | 20:42 |
| larsu | attente_: we've carried this patch for gtk for a long time which disables the 'viqr' im | 20:42 |
| larsu | apparently more vietnamese people want to use telex | 20:42 |
| larsu | not sure what kind of input method is selected for vi now, and where I could look | 20:43 |
| larsu | and also not how stuff like ibus relates to the input methods in gtk | 20:43 |
| attente_ | oh. i don't know anything about vietnamese input. you want to drop the patch or something like that? | 20:46 |
| larsu | attente_: ideally, yes | 20:46 |
| larsu | attente_: or apply upstream if we really need it | 20:47 |
| larsu | but then we have an im module in gtk that isn't used by any language | 20:47 |
| Laney | by default | 20:49 |
| Laney | presumably you can turn it on | 20:49 |
| achiang | hi, while looking to figure out how to make compiz/unity do window shade (title bar rollup), i pressed ctrl-alt-s just to see what might happen... how do i get that window back now? ;) | 22:01 |
| achiang | oh, alt-tab gets it | 22:01 |
| achiang | alternatively, how do i actually get window shading to work? | 22:01 |
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