| lotuspsychje | i cant get any updates on my n7 on devel anymore | 03:00 |
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| lotuspsychje | they show in list, but dont start to download | 03:00 |
| vitimiti | Hi | 09:12 |
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| elopio | dobey: ping. Is there a way to get the user's pictures directory with python dirspec? | 12:50 |
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| mhall119|vacatio | kenvandine: btw, just because I'm not at the sprint doesn't mean I won't be asking you about a background images package hook for click :) | 13:27 |
| * kenvandine ignores mhall119|vacatio | 13:27 | |
| kenvandine | :-D | 13:27 |
| mhall119|vacatio | lol | 13:30 |
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| renatonolo | how to install ubuntu touch on Microsoft Surface RT? | 13:49 |
| renatonolo | have any script | 13:50 |
| renatonolo | ? | 13:50 |
| dobey | elopio: no. never got around to adding the userdirs stuff | 13:52 |
| elopio | dobey: I'm calling xdg-user-dir PICTURES with subprocess. That works. | 13:54 |
| dobey | elopio: can you decipher the logs in https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-utopic/3495/ for me? i don't understand why it's failing | 13:55 |
| elopio | let me see | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, are you at the sprint? | 13:57 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, nyet | 13:57 |
| kenvandine | coming? | 13:57 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, sadly no | 13:57 |
| kenvandine | bummer, ok :) | 13:58 |
| jgdx | How's the weather? | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | nice | 13:58 |
| jgdx | *shakes fist* | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | although we have no windows :) | 13:58 |
| jgdx | speaking of windows, I really want to mock the QDBusMenu stuff. | 13:59 |
| jgdx | if we want to increase testability in USS, we need to either mock it or do something else wrt to testing or getting to those menus. | 13:59 |
| ogra_ | ricmm, bug 1379296] | 14:02 |
| ubot5 | bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu RTM) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379296 | 14:02 |
| ogra_ | Saviq, where are you ? | 14:02 |
| elopio | dobey: | 14:02 |
| elopio | /var/local/autopilot/autopilot.log: Ran 0 tests in 0.358s | 14:02 |
| elopio | it's not finding any tests. That usually happens when you install them as py3 and try to run them with py2, or the other way around. | 14:02 |
| Saviq | ogra_, coming up now | 14:03 |
| Saviq | ogra_, we're downstairs normally, going to Beverly now though | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | ah, k | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | di you have tvoss near you too ? | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | lool, so why does my phone tell me reliable that i am in the hotel in oakland ? | 14:05 |
| dobey | ogra_: probably because of the wifi AP being the same as the one you connected to in oakland, and it thinks it is there | 14:06 |
| dobey | elopio: ah, ok | 14:07 |
| ogra_ | dobey, my phone was never in oakland ;) | 14:08 |
| ogra_ | (my ubuntu phone) | 14:08 |
| dobey | ogra_: well, i guess someone ended up getting the AP registered as being in oakland, on whatever service it's being resolved through :) | 14:09 |
| ogra_ | right ... there is some bug somewhere iin the stack | 14:09 |
| dobey | ogra_: maybe someone with a nokia n9 did so when there :) | 14:10 |
| ogra_ | haha, yeah | 14:10 |
| hevans | I'm back, if anyone has any answers to my above questions let me know. | 14:13 |
| Mirv | pitti: do you know why autopkgtests on utopic seem to somehow stuck? kenvandine is asking. | 14:14 |
| Mirv | they claim test in progress, but the private jenkins instance says nothing is running. | 14:14 |
| Mirv | and this is since Friday | 14:15 |
| elopio | tedg: do you know why the package xdg-user-dirs is not available on the phone? | 14:17 |
| elopio | or alternatively, how can I get the pictures directory? | 14:17 |
| lool | ogra_: are you sure this isn't geoip based? | 14:19 |
| ogra_ | lool, no idea, if i tap on "my location" in g-maps it immediately dumps me into oakland | 14:20 |
| lool | ogra_: the other possible explanation is when you have more than one mac address that moved between places that you see around you | 14:20 |
| lool | ogra_: possible that we moved a couple of routers from oakland to here and that they are still marked in oakland | 14:20 |
| ogra_ | it is pretty surely caching the location somewhere | 14:21 |
| lool | ogra_: the known wifis are cached | 14:21 |
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| lool | lol, everyone is from https://www.facebook.com/n/?arnaud.bordet%2Fposts%2F10204168543226328&comment_id=10204208301180252&offset=0&total_comments=20&aref=8076276&medium=email&mid=aaea9a0G5af4b7816fd2G7b3bf4G5bG8518 | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | lool, well, my phone definitely doesnt have cached wifi for oakland ... it was never there ... | 14:21 |
| lool | ups | 14:21 |
| lool | everyone is from confernece/canonical/session | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | so it must be in the db somehow | 14:22 |
| lool | ogra_: no, they might have scanned these wifis in oakland | 14:22 |
| hevans | There seems to be a problem with the manifests file in ubuntu touch builds .repo package does anyone here know anything about this? | 14:22 |
| lool | ogra_: either from other platforms (say android phones running it) | 14:22 |
| lool | ogra_: or from cars scanning streets | 14:22 |
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| ogra_ | hmm | 14:22 |
| lool | ogra_: so say wifi ap 1 and ap 2 were visible in oakland and got stored in HERE servers | 14:23 |
| lool | ogra_: now your phone seems them here, their server side will say that these are in oakland | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | well, is there a way to force a refresh ? | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | (of the here db) | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | or report wrong locations like this one | 14:23 |
| lool | ogra_: not that I know of, but given it's the second time I'm being ask in some days, I think we ought to question that | 14:23 |
| lool | ogra_: one question is: are you attached to gsm? | 14:24 |
| ogra_ | yep, i am | 14:24 |
| lool | ogra_: I know they have a wifi blacklist, but it's their private data | 14:24 |
| ogra_ | i have a roaming icon in the panel ... though inside the hotel i am indeed on wifi only | 14:24 |
| elopio | bzoltan: running the tests now. Hopefully, now that we are all together, we will find out who break them and how to prevent them, before making any more releases. | 14:26 |
| elopio | but if it takes too long, we can talk to the landing and QA teams to make an exception. It will also cause a lot of problems if we are not able to land the toolkit soon. | 14:27 |
| tbr | ogra_: get a gps fix, make sure that the phone sees the wifi APs | 14:27 |
| tbr | ogra_: it will then after a while update (days, weeks) | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | ah, k | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | so probably once the sprint is over ... | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | meaning next sprint we get washington as default location ... fun | 14:29 |
| tbr | after a while it will start ignoring those | 14:30 |
| ogra_ | after 5-10 sprints then ? :) | 14:30 |
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| tbr | likely | 14:36 |
| pitti | kenvandine, Mirv: "stuck"? Well, there haven't been (m)any uploads recently; are you looking at a particular test? | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | pitti, ubuntu-system-settings | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | all the utopic silos that were published to proposed on friday are still migrating | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | pitti, ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts actually | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | which is blocking ubuntu-system-settings | 14:39 |
| hevans | Please could someone explain what is going on here? I seem to only be getting half of any conversation. Also there seem to be a lot of people here who are actual canonical staff. Is this an appropriate channel for me to use? | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | hevans, this is the place to talk about ubuntu touch development | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | hevans, we welcome everyone :) | 14:42 |
| lool | l | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | s | 14:44 |
| hevans | kenvandine, thanks I was interested in porting ubuntu touch and the guide seemed out of date. | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | hevans, this is the right place | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | hevans, but i don't really know about porting myself | 14:46 |
| hevans | kenvandine, Thanks anyway, it's been so log since I last used irc I wasn't sure if anyone could even see the post. | 14:47 |
| pitti | kenvandine, Mirv: ah yes, I see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html; that looks wrong | 14:59 |
| pitti | I'll discuss this with jibel once he's back | 14:59 |
| Mirv | pitti: thanks! | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | pitti, thanks! | 15:00 |
| pitti | cjwatson: so, time to squeeze debootstrap, distro-info, lintian etc. into utopic still? or all SRUs at this point? | 15:07 |
| * pitti thinks we should at least to distro-info and debootstrap | 15:08 | |
| cjwatson | pitti: distro-info-data is on its way, and I'll upload debootstrap to Debian nowish | 15:21 |
| pitti | cjwatson: great | 15:26 |
| PaoloRotolo | Hi all guys! | 15:27 |
| PaoloRotolo | Can someone explain me how to use mirscreencast please :)? | 15:27 |
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| jgdx | mpt, ping | 15:48 |
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| ahayzen | jdstrand, ping | 16:15 |
| ybon | ho do I update to latest mako image? If I run --channel devel, I've the #243 | 16:18 |
| ybon | but the 17/10 email talk about a #87 one | 16:19 |
| popey | ybon: thats a different channel i think | 16:22 |
| popey | ybon: ubuntu-device-flash --list-channels | grep rtm | 16:22 |
| ybon | humm, rtm is the one who "bricked" my phone last time :( | 16:23 |
| ybon | okay, let's try again :) | 16:25 |
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| ybon | worked :) | 16:38 |
| * ybon can't wait to test new location service! | 16:39 | |
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| mterry | sergiusens, I can't send MMS images on my mako/rtm/4 device -- I thought that was supported these days? | 17:14 |
| kenvandine | pitti, i see you made those tests run, and they finished... but excuses still says testing in progress? ideas? | 17:25 |
| wavis | Anyone know how easy/hard/possible it is to run a javafx app on ubuntu touch? | 17:45 |
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| baud_ | Hello. What is the current status of running non-Click applications in the Unity 8? If I install the Unity 8 14.10 beta on an x86_64 tablet, will I be able to use the same set of applications that I normally would, or will I be restricted to a subset? | 17:53 |
| baud_ | I'm aware of the in-progress GTK+ integration, and how adding that PPA will enable (unstable) use of those applications. | 17:53 |
| baud_ | But I'm also interested in knowing about Qt apps that don't target QML, or apps that are native to other desktop environments such as KDE. | 17:54 |
| dobey | baud_: i don't know if qt4 apps will work or not. qt5 should be ok, but apps that expect windowed behavior might have issues, as everything is maximized under mir currently | 17:57 |
| baud_ | So, the fastest way to find out is to apt-get install what I want to test, test it, and submit bug reports as-needed? Where would these bugs even belong, seeing as it's such beta software? | 17:59 |
| dobey | i'm not sure where the best place to file th bugs would be. | 17:59 |
| pitti | kenvandine, Mirv: ack, all test runs are stalled; we have a theory, investigating | 18:48 |
| kenvandine | pitti, thx | 18:48 |
| nerochiaro | rsalveti: ted told me you might be the person responsible for having a lot of messages scrolling on the stdout of any click app. like "libust[4379/4411]: Error: Error opening shm /lttng-ust-wait-5-32011 (in get_wait_shm() at lttng-ust-comm.c:886)" | 18:52 |
| rsalveti | nerochiaro: no, have nothing to do with that :-) | 18:56 |
| rsalveti | nerochiaro: ping tvoss | 18:56 |
| sergiusens | pitti: hey, where can I find you? I want to see if we can look into autopackage tests with a device constraint | 18:59 |
| the_storm | guys I would like to know if otg is supported on nexus 4 ubuntu touch or not | 19:03 |
| the_storm | ! | 19:03 |
| dobey | otg? | 19:08 |
| popey | ot the go | 19:09 |
| popey | means you can plug devices into it | 19:09 |
| popey | like kb/mouse | 19:09 |
| ogra_ | popey, well, depends ... otg host means that ... otg client means you have USB storage exposed to a machine you plug in to | 19:10 |
| popey | i usually assume people want to plug devices into n4,, the_storm is that what you want? | 19:11 |
| the_storm | yeah I want to plug devices .. like .. usb drive .. another android device ! | 19:12 |
| ogra_ | you could hack that ... by default the USB port is occupied by the gadget driver (for mtp and adb) ... | 19:12 |
| popey | doesnt work here | 19:12 |
| dobey | ah | 19:12 |
| ogra_ | you would have to disable the gadget driver and build otg ad module ... i think then modprobing it would make it work | 19:13 |
| ogra_ | a/ad/as/ | 19:13 |
| the_storm | ogra_ any tutorial or a point to start from ?? popey what do you think of that ? | 19:14 |
| ogra_ | the_storm, well, i guess what i wrote above and google is the best tutorial there is atm ... you would be a pioneer doing that | 19:15 |
| ogra_ | (my babbling above is all theory... someone would need to prove it actualyl works ) | 19:15 |
| the_storm | ogra_, I have been googling for two days but nothing there | 19:15 |
| ogra_ | https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=enable+OTG+on+nexus4&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 | 19:16 |
| pitti | sergiusens: I'm in the QA room; lobby level across the snack/coffee area, last room in the aisle | 19:17 |
| pitti | sergiusens: (sorry, was working on OMGkittens thing) | 19:17 |
| genii | That reminds me, I need to make more coffee | 19:18 |
| sergiusens | pitti: on my way | 19:18 |
| vitimiti | Hi | 19:37 |
| sergiusens | pitti: https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery.git;a=blob;f=system-image-upgrader;h=cd2e5039f9a300c2e74cbb9d5b8bfab275da1909;hb=refs/heads/phablet-4.4.2_r1 | 19:48 |
| mterry | awe_, poke - you got time? | 20:06 |
| awe_ | sure | 20:06 |
| mterry | awe_, alright, phone plugged in | 20:06 |
| awe_ | please pastebin the results from /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts | 20:07 |
| mterry | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8605909/ | 20:07 |
| mterry | awe_, ^ | 20:07 |
| awe_ | so if you'll notice, there's no MMS parameters set in that context | 20:07 |
| awe_ | which is why it's failing | 20:08 |
| awe_ | lemme check the db | 20:08 |
| awe_ | mterry, one other thing... can you grep for the line "Provisioning for" in /var/log/syslog | 20:09 |
| mterry | awe_, grep Provisioning /var/log/syslog gives nothing | 20:10 |
| awe_ | ok, so we need to force it to re-provision | 20:10 |
| awe_ | as root, run 'stop ofono' | 20:10 |
| awe_ | then cd /var/lib/ofono/<IMSI> | 20:10 |
| awe_ | where <IMSI> is a big string of numbers | 20:11 |
| awe_ | ( it's your subscriber ID ) | 20:11 |
| awe_ | and once there, delete the file gprs | 20:11 |
| awe_ | then start ofono | 20:11 |
| awe_ | and look for the "Provisioning..." message again in syslog | 20:11 |
| mterry | awe_, my ofono dir has both: 310260668735174/ 310260668735174-3/ | 20:12 |
| mterry | awe_, do I know which to use? | 20:12 |
| awe_ | the one w/out the dash | 20:12 |
| mterry | awe_, or just delete both I guess | 20:12 |
| mterry | awe_, well... I still didn't see the provisioning message (my phone also hasn't reconnected to network it says) | 20:14 |
| mterry | awe_, but... I do have "MessageCenter = http://metropcs.mmsmvno.com/mms/wapenc" in my contexts now | 20:14 |
| awe_ | have you been updating this phone all along??? | 20:15 |
| awe_ | and how long have you had the SIM? | 20:15 |
| mterry | awe_, yeah, for like a year now | 20:15 |
| ajalkane | Is there a way to detect when virtual keyboard is open or closed from QML? | 20:15 |
| awe_ | mterry, ok. That's explains it. You have old provisioning data, and probably never picked up the new data when we switched dbs | 20:16 |
| mterry | awe_, humph, leaving early adopters like me behind :) | 20:17 |
| mterry | awe_, will test mms and confirm it all works like I expect | 20:17 |
| awe_ | k | 20:18 |
| Chipaca | who's a good person to pester about qtcreator (wrt when starting a new project, it not liking my "kit")? | 20:34 |
| mterry | awe_, OK it failed again. Here is latest context: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8606162/ | 20:35 |
| mterry | no provisioning word in syslog | 20:35 |
| awe_ | IPv6 | 20:36 |
| awe_ | stop ofono again | 20:36 |
| awe_ | this time edit the gprs file and change "ipv6" to "ip" | 20:36 |
| awe_ | known bug, affects only T-Mobile/MetroPCS atm | 20:36 |
| husher | hi | 20:43 |
| husher | ubuntu touch for xperia sp it's possible? | 20:44 |
| MoPac | Hello. I'm hoping to understand whether there is a relationship between the completion of development for BQ/Meizu RTM Ubuntu Touch and its availability for other hardware. Is there any reason to expect a dam break in terms of Touch's portability as the images for BQ and Meizu get done? | 20:53 |
| MoPac | Or is it a totally separate effort that doesn't really cross over into the question of running it on a Samsung or Sony or HTC handset? | 20:53 |
| genii | MoPac: The second thing you said. | 20:56 |
| MoPac | So, apart from the spotty status colors on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices , there's not really any way to speculate what phones might be able to run it in the future? (I have to replace my phone now, so it's an awkward moment) | 20:57 |
| dholbach | Saviq, do you know where I can ddebs for rtm packages? | 21:10 |
| dholbach | ^ or anyone else really | 21:10 |
| dholbach | I can't find a matching unity8-dbgsym for 8.00+14.10.20141017-0ubuntu1 | 21:11 |
| dholbach | dandrader, ^ do you know by chance? | 21:13 |
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| sergiusens | rsalveti: hey, seems there's a broken emulato; egl | 21:16 |
| seb128 | dholbach, http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-rtm/pool/main/u/unity/ | 21:17 |
| dholbach | seb128, gracias | 21:18 |
| seb128 | dholbach, in fact not :/ | 21:18 |
| seb128 | dholbach, http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-rtm/pool/universe/u/unity8/ rather | 21:19 |
| seb128 | sorry | 21:19 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: x86 you mean? | 21:26 |
| rsalveti | would need to give the latest a try | 21:26 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: rtm or utopic? | 21:26 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: rtm | 21:27 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: lemme see | 21:27 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: 14.09 and 14.09-proposed | 21:27 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: E/libEGL ( 2056): eglMakeCurrent:775 error 3009 (EGL_BAD_MATCH) | 21:27 |
| rsalveti | I think we always had that one | 21:28 |
| dandrader|afk | dholbach, right, there no dbg package for unity8... | 21:29 |
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| tsdgeos | dholbach: so you can get the dbgsym pacakge from ddebs | 21:30 |
| tsdgeos | deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com utopic main restricted universe multiverse | 21:30 |
| dholbach | tsdgeos, dandrader: yes, I was referring to -dbgsym | 21:33 |
| tsdgeos | dholbach: yeah problem is ddebs i think always has only the last released version | 21:33 |
| tsdgeos | and rtm is behind | 21:33 |
| dholbach | right | 21:34 |
| tsdgeos | so no dbgsym for it sadly :/ | 21:34 |
| dholbach | I installed them manually | 21:34 |
| pitti | sergiusens: so devel (i. e. ubuntu) is still working with the emulator | 21:39 |
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