[03:00] i cant get any updates on my n7 on devel anymore [03:00] they show in list, but dont start to download [09:12] Hi === bremnes_ is now known as bremnes === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:50] dobey: ping. Is there a way to get the user's pictures directory with python dirspec? === salem_ is now known as _salem [13:27] kenvandine: btw, just because I'm not at the sprint doesn't mean I won't be asking you about a background images package hook for click :) [13:27] * kenvandine ignores mhall119|vacatio [13:27] :-D [13:30] lol === vivek- is now known as Guest82741 [13:49] how to install ubuntu touch on Microsoft Surface RT? [13:50] have any script [13:50] ? [13:52] elopio: no. never got around to adding the userdirs stuff [13:54] dobey: I'm calling xdg-user-dir PICTURES with subprocess. That works. [13:55] elopio: can you decipher the logs in https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-utopic/3495/ for me? i don't understand why it's failing [13:55] let me see [13:57] jgdx, are you at the sprint? [13:57] kenvandine, nyet [13:57] coming? [13:57] kenvandine, sadly no [13:58] bummer, ok :) [13:58] How's the weather? [13:58] nice [13:58] *shakes fist* [13:58] although we have no windows :) [13:59] speaking of windows, I really want to mock the QDBusMenu stuff. [13:59] if we want to increase testability in USS, we need to either mock it or do something else wrt to testing or getting to those menus. [14:02] ricmm, bug 1379296] [14:02] bug 1379296 in qtmir (Ubuntu RTM) "unity8-dash should be excluded from app lifecycle management" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379296 [14:02] Saviq, where are you ? [14:02] dobey: [14:02] /var/local/autopilot/autopilot.log: Ran 0 tests in 0.358s [14:02] it's not finding any tests. That usually happens when you install them as py3 and try to run them with py2, or the other way around. [14:03] ogra_, coming up now [14:04] ogra_, we're downstairs normally, going to Beverly now though [14:04] ah, k [14:04] di you have tvoss near you too ? [14:05] lool, so why does my phone tell me reliable that i am in the hotel in oakland ? [14:06] ogra_: probably because of the wifi AP being the same as the one you connected to in oakland, and it thinks it is there [14:07] elopio: ah, ok [14:08] dobey, my phone was never in oakland ;) [14:08] (my ubuntu phone) [14:09] ogra_: well, i guess someone ended up getting the AP registered as being in oakland, on whatever service it's being resolved through :) [14:09] right ... there is some bug somewhere iin the stack [14:10] ogra_: maybe someone with a nokia n9 did so when there :) [14:10] haha, yeah [14:13] I'm back, if anyone has any answers to my above questions let me know. [14:14] pitti: do you know why autopkgtests on utopic seem to somehow stuck? kenvandine is asking. [14:14] they claim test in progress, but the private jenkins instance says nothing is running. [14:15] and this is since Friday [14:17] tedg: do you know why the package xdg-user-dirs is not available on the phone? [14:17] or alternatively, how can I get the pictures directory? [14:19] ogra_: are you sure this isn't geoip based? [14:20] lool, no idea, if i tap on "my location" in g-maps it immediately dumps me into oakland [14:20] ogra_: the other possible explanation is when you have more than one mac address that moved between places that you see around you [14:20] ogra_: possible that we moved a couple of routers from oakland to here and that they are still marked in oakland [14:21] it is pretty surely caching the location somewhere [14:21] ogra_: the known wifis are cached === renato is now known as Guest73089 [14:21] lol, everyone is from https://www.facebook.com/n/?arnaud.bordet%2Fposts%2F10204168543226328&comment_id=10204208301180252&offset=0&total_comments=20&aref=8076276&medium=email&mid=aaea9a0G5af4b7816fd2G7b3bf4G5bG8518 [14:21] lool, well, my phone definitely doesnt have cached wifi for oakland ... it was never there ... [14:21] ups [14:21] everyone is from confernece/canonical/session [14:22] so it must be in the db somehow [14:22] ogra_: no, they might have scanned these wifis in oakland [14:22] There seems to be a problem with the manifests file in ubuntu touch builds .repo package does anyone here know anything about this? [14:22] ogra_: either from other platforms (say android phones running it) [14:22] ogra_: or from cars scanning streets === JamesTait is now known as Guest71840 [14:22] hmm [14:23] ogra_: so say wifi ap 1 and ap 2 were visible in oakland and got stored in HERE servers [14:23] ogra_: now your phone seems them here, their server side will say that these are in oakland [14:23] well, is there a way to force a refresh ? [14:23] (of the here db) [14:23] or report wrong locations like this one [14:23] ogra_: not that I know of, but given it's the second time I'm being ask in some days, I think we ought to question that [14:24] ogra_: one question is: are you attached to gsm? [14:24] yep, i am [14:24] ogra_: I know they have a wifi blacklist, but it's their private data [14:24] i have a roaming icon in the panel ... though inside the hotel i am indeed on wifi only [14:26] bzoltan: running the tests now. Hopefully, now that we are all together, we will find out who break them and how to prevent them, before making any more releases. [14:27] but if it takes too long, we can talk to the landing and QA teams to make an exception. It will also cause a lot of problems if we are not able to land the toolkit soon. [14:27] ogra_: get a gps fix, make sure that the phone sees the wifi APs [14:28] ogra_: it will then after a while update (days, weeks) [14:29] ah, k [14:29] so probably once the sprint is over ... [14:29] meaning next sprint we get washington as default location ... fun [14:30] after a while it will start ignoring those [14:30] after 5-10 sprints then ? :) === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait [14:36] likely [14:38] kenvandine, Mirv: "stuck"? Well, there haven't been (m)any uploads recently; are you looking at a particular test? [14:38] pitti, ubuntu-system-settings [14:39] all the utopic silos that were published to proposed on friday are still migrating [14:39] pitti, ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts actually [14:39] which is blocking ubuntu-system-settings [14:41] Please could someone explain what is going on here? I seem to only be getting half of any conversation. Also there seem to be a lot of people here who are actual canonical staff. Is this an appropriate channel for me to use? [14:42] hevans, this is the place to talk about ubuntu touch development [14:42] hevans, we welcome everyone :) [14:43] l [14:44] s [14:45] kenvandine, thanks I was interested in porting ubuntu touch and the guide seemed out of date. [14:45] hevans, this is the right place [14:46] hevans, but i don't really know about porting myself [14:47] kenvandine, Thanks anyway, it's been so log since I last used irc I wasn't sure if anyone could even see the post. [14:59] kenvandine, Mirv: ah yes, I see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html; that looks wrong [14:59] I'll discuss this with jibel once he's back [15:00] pitti: thanks! [15:00] pitti, thanks! [15:07] cjwatson: so, time to squeeze debootstrap, distro-info, lintian etc. into utopic still? or all SRUs at this point? [15:08] * pitti thinks we should at least to distro-info and debootstrap [15:21] pitti: distro-info-data is on its way, and I'll upload debootstrap to Debian nowish [15:26] cjwatson: great [15:27] Hi all guys! [15:27] Can someone explain me how to use mirscreencast please :)? === _salem is now known as salem_ === Guest73089 is now known as renatu [15:48] mpt, ping === VargaD_ is now known as VargaD === salem_ is now known as _salem [16:15] jdstrand, ping [16:18] ho do I update to latest mako image? If I run --channel devel, I've the #243 [16:19] but the 17/10 email talk about a #87 one [16:22] ybon: thats a different channel i think [16:22] ybon: ubuntu-device-flash --list-channels | grep rtm [16:23] humm, rtm is the one who "bricked" my phone last time :( [16:25] okay, let's try again :) === mihir_ is now known as mihir [16:38] worked :) [16:39] * ybon can't wait to test new location service! === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [17:14] sergiusens, I can't send MMS images on my mako/rtm/4 device -- I thought that was supported these days? [17:25] pitti, i see you made those tests run, and they finished... but excuses still says testing in progress? ideas? [17:45] Anyone know how easy/hard/possible it is to run a javafx app on ubuntu touch? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === _salem is now known as salem_ [17:53] Hello. What is the current status of running non-Click applications in the Unity 8? If I install the Unity 8 14.10 beta on an x86_64 tablet, will I be able to use the same set of applications that I normally would, or will I be restricted to a subset? [17:53] I'm aware of the in-progress GTK+ integration, and how adding that PPA will enable (unstable) use of those applications. [17:54] But I'm also interested in knowing about Qt apps that don't target QML, or apps that are native to other desktop environments such as KDE. [17:57] baud_: i don't know if qt4 apps will work or not. qt5 should be ok, but apps that expect windowed behavior might have issues, as everything is maximized under mir currently [17:59] So, the fastest way to find out is to apt-get install what I want to test, test it, and submit bug reports as-needed? Where would these bugs even belong, seeing as it's such beta software? [17:59] i'm not sure where the best place to file th bugs would be. [18:48] kenvandine, Mirv: ack, all test runs are stalled; we have a theory, investigating [18:48] pitti, thx [18:52] rsalveti: ted told me you might be the person responsible for having a lot of messages scrolling on the stdout of any click app. like "libust[4379/4411]: Error: Error opening shm /lttng-ust-wait-5-32011 (in get_wait_shm() at lttng-ust-comm.c:886)" [18:56] nerochiaro: no, have nothing to do with that :-) [18:56] nerochiaro: ping tvoss [18:59] pitti: hey, where can I find you? I want to see if we can look into autopackage tests with a device constraint [19:03] guys I would like to know if otg is supported on nexus 4 ubuntu touch or not [19:03] ! [19:08] otg? [19:09] ot the go [19:09] means you can plug devices into it [19:09] like kb/mouse [19:10] popey, well, depends ... otg host means that ... otg client means you have USB storage exposed to a machine you plug in to [19:11] i usually assume people want to plug devices into n4,, the_storm is that what you want? [19:12] yeah I want to plug devices .. like .. usb drive .. another android device ! [19:12] you could hack that ... by default the USB port is occupied by the gadget driver (for mtp and adb) ... [19:12] doesnt work here [19:12] ah [19:13] you would have to disable the gadget driver and build otg ad module ... i think then modprobing it would make it work [19:13] a/ad/as/ [19:14] ogra_ any tutorial or a point to start from ?? popey what do you think of that ? [19:15] the_storm, well, i guess what i wrote above and google is the best tutorial there is atm ... you would be a pioneer doing that [19:15] (my babbling above is all theory... someone would need to prove it actualyl works ) [19:15] ogra_, I have been googling for two days but nothing there [19:16] https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=enable+OTG+on+nexus4&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 [19:17] sergiusens: I'm in the QA room; lobby level across the snack/coffee area, last room in the aisle [19:17] sergiusens: (sorry, was working on OMGkittens thing) [19:18] That reminds me, I need to make more coffee [19:18] pitti: on my way [19:37] Hi [19:48] pitti: https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery.git;a=blob;f=system-image-upgrader;h=cd2e5039f9a300c2e74cbb9d5b8bfab275da1909;hb=refs/heads/phablet-4.4.2_r1 [20:06] awe_, poke - you got time? [20:06] sure [20:06] awe_, alright, phone plugged in [20:07] please pastebin the results from /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts [20:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8605909/ [20:07] awe_, ^ [20:07] so if you'll notice, there's no MMS parameters set in that context [20:08] which is why it's failing [20:08] lemme check the db [20:09] mterry, one other thing... can you grep for the line "Provisioning for" in /var/log/syslog [20:10] awe_, grep Provisioning /var/log/syslog gives nothing [20:10] ok, so we need to force it to re-provision [20:10] as root, run 'stop ofono' [20:10] then cd /var/lib/ofono/ [20:11] where is a big string of numbers [20:11] ( it's your subscriber ID ) [20:11] and once there, delete the file gprs [20:11] then start ofono [20:11] and look for the "Provisioning..." message again in syslog [20:12] awe_, my ofono dir has both: 310260668735174/ 310260668735174-3/ [20:12] awe_, do I know which to use? [20:12] the one w/out the dash [20:12] awe_, or just delete both I guess [20:14] awe_, well... I still didn't see the provisioning message (my phone also hasn't reconnected to network it says) [20:14] awe_, but... I do have "MessageCenter = http://metropcs.mmsmvno.com/mms/wapenc" in my contexts now [20:15] have you been updating this phone all along??? [20:15] and how long have you had the SIM? [20:15] awe_, yeah, for like a year now [20:15] Is there a way to detect when virtual keyboard is open or closed from QML? [20:16] mterry, ok. That's explains it. You have old provisioning data, and probably never picked up the new data when we switched dbs [20:17] awe_, humph, leaving early adopters like me behind :) [20:17] awe_, will test mms and confirm it all works like I expect [20:18] k [20:34] who's a good person to pester about qtcreator (wrt when starting a new project, it not liking my "kit")? [20:35] awe_, OK it failed again. Here is latest context: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8606162/ [20:35] no provisioning word in syslog [20:36] IPv6 [20:36] stop ofono again [20:36] this time edit the gprs file and change "ipv6" to "ip" [20:36] known bug, affects only T-Mobile/MetroPCS atm [20:43] hi [20:44] ubuntu touch for xperia sp it's possible? [20:53] Hello. I'm hoping to understand whether there is a relationship between the completion of development for BQ/Meizu RTM Ubuntu Touch and its availability for other hardware. Is there any reason to expect a dam break in terms of Touch's portability as the images for BQ and Meizu get done? [20:53] Or is it a totally separate effort that doesn't really cross over into the question of running it on a Samsung or Sony or HTC handset? [20:56] MoPac: The second thing you said. [20:57] So, apart from the spotty status colors on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices , there's not really any way to speculate what phones might be able to run it in the future? (I have to replace my phone now, so it's an awkward moment) [21:10] Saviq, do you know where I can ddebs for rtm packages? [21:10] ^ or anyone else really [21:11] I can't find a matching unity8-dbgsym for 8.00+14.10.20141017-0ubuntu1 [21:13] dandrader, ^ do you know by chance? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [21:16] rsalveti: hey, seems there's a broken emulato; egl [21:17] dholbach, http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-rtm/pool/main/u/unity/ [21:18] seb128, gracias [21:18] dholbach, in fact not :/ [21:19] dholbach, http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-rtm/pool/universe/u/unity8/ rather [21:19] sorry [21:26] sergiusens: x86 you mean? [21:26] would need to give the latest a try [21:26] sergiusens: rtm or utopic? [21:27] rsalveti: rtm [21:27] sergiusens: lemme see [21:27] rsalveti: 14.09 and 14.09-proposed [21:27] rsalveti: E/libEGL ( 2056): eglMakeCurrent:775 error 3009 (EGL_BAD_MATCH) [21:28] I think we always had that one [21:29] dholbach, right, there no dbg package for unity8... === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [21:30] dholbach: so you can get the dbgsym pacakge from ddebs [21:30] deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com utopic main restricted universe multiverse [21:33] tsdgeos, dandrader: yes, I was referring to -dbgsym [21:33] dholbach: yeah problem is ddebs i think always has only the last released version [21:33] and rtm is behind [21:34] right [21:34] so no dbgsym for it sadly :/ [21:34] I installed them manually [21:39] sergiusens: so devel (i. e. ubuntu) is still working with the emulator === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === salem_ is now known as _salem