| mapps | yo all | 04:09 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | mornin' | 04:23 |
| mapps | 1 MIN LEFT FOR HOMELAND | 04:26 |
| mapps | E4 :DDD | 04:26 |
| mapps | AND ITS DONE | 04:27 |
| mapps | ;D | 04:27 |
| mapps | off to watch homeland..then brooklyn 99 will save walking dead for tomorrow | 04:27 |
| mapps | wha you doing up daftykins ? | 04:27 |
| mapps | daftykins, ? | 04:29 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 04:30 |
| daftykins | sorry just nipped to the bathroom | 04:30 |
| daftykins | ah just didn't feel like sleeping yet | 04:31 |
| mapps | ah | 04:34 |
| mapps | hmm i can see my ipcam..can check my house in UK..but the vpn isnt accessible and i cant access the raspberry pi via ssh ;( | 04:44 |
| daftykins | o0 | 04:45 |
| daftykins | someone turned it off again? | 04:45 |
| mapps | i dunno what hapened tbh | 04:45 |
| mapps | i thought the router was off..but guess not | 04:45 |
| mapps | noones been to th house | 04:45 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 06:59 |
| MooDoo | Happy Birthday Ubuntu :D | 07:09 |
| daftykins | cake please! | 07:10 |
| MooDoo | no cake mine | 07:17 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:17 |
| MooDoo | howdy brobostigon | 07:20 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 07:20 |
| MooDoo | how are you ? | 07:22 |
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| brobostigon | MooDoo: alittle tired, but fine, and you? | 07:23 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| MooDoo | brobostigon: yeah i'm ok thanks :D been playing about with xubuntu at the weekend. | 07:33 |
| brobostigon | good to hear, :) | 07:33 |
| MooDoo | it's nice n fast | 07:36 |
| brobostigon | :) | 07:36 |
| * zmoylan-pi is running xubuntu on 4yo 1gb netbook as my main system | 07:43 | |
| brobostigon | i run haiku and debian testing with I3 on my eeepc now. | 07:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | the original eeepc or a later one as the later ones were better speced? | 07:47 |
| MooDoo | zmoylan-pi: yeah it's good, I just installed it this weekend for a play | 07:47 |
| brobostigon | zmoylan-pi: the 900 model. | 07:47 |
| brobostigon | zmoylan-pi: and it runs both, without blinking an eyelid, | 07:48 |
| SuperMatt | WOOO RELEASE WEEK | 07:53 |
| SuperMatt | bring on Thursday :) | 07:53 |
| brobostigon | :) | 07:54 |
| SuperMatt | who is coming to the release shindig? | 07:55 |
| SuperMatt | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2898-ubuntu-utopic-unicorn-release-party/ | 07:56 |
| brobostigon | booze up, more like, from what i have heard. | 07:56 |
| SuperMatt | well, yes | 07:56 |
| brobostigon | :) | 07:56 |
| SuperMatt | I've picked a place with unicorn in the name | 07:59 |
| SuperMatt | and damn I want to see what t-shirts are coming our way for this release | 07:59 |
| MooDoo | no i can't make it sorry, unless there is a wifi link and you can google hangout at the event. | 07:59 |
| SuperMatt | could try | 08:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | a wifi link in a room full of data sucking geeks... :-) | 08:00 |
| MooDoo | lol yeah that's the issue :D | 08:01 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:01 |
| MooDoo | You can tell it's Monday, it's a bit quiet | 09:15 |
| awilkins | Caffeine ingestion hasn't got levels up to basal metabolic rate yet | 09:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | you need to mainline caffine so :-) | 09:18 |
| diddledan_ | *mumble grmph* | 09:19 |
| MooDoo | lol | 09:20 |
| diddledan_ | why must valuehost.ru be such pains in the proverbial?! they're complaining repeatedly about my tor exit server "attacking" them | 09:20 |
| diddledan_ | they're the _only_ people to have complained in over two months' of operation | 09:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | freedom hating commies? :-p | 09:20 |
| diddledan_ | I need to run my own ISP methinks :-p | 09:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | but then you'd have to deal with you know... people :-) | 09:22 |
| directhex | diddlenet | 09:22 |
| diddledan_ | or at least own my own IP Address so that complaints come to me and can be ignored rather than going to my host | 09:22 |
| directhex | i'd rather not... | 09:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | simple people of the land, you know, morons :-D | 09:22 |
| MooDoo | directhex: I've been wanting to do that for years :D | 09:27 |
| MooDoo | i meant diddledan_ | 09:27 |
| diddledan_ | does anyone know how to get apport to add a second backtrace attempt to an existing bug? | 09:35 |
| diddledan_ | specifically bug #1235567 | 09:36 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1235567 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus-ui-gtk3 crashed with SIGABRT" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235567 | 09:36 |
| czajkowski | diddledan_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 09:37 |
| DJones | Does anybody use BT email/Office.com email? Just wondering if anybody has noticed there being a fault stopping you logging in and sending email | 09:38 |
| diddledan_ | thanks czajkowski | 09:38 |
| MooDoo | diddledan_: did you know you have _ ? | 09:41 |
| diddledan_ | it's ok, MooDoo , I'm still the same person I always was :-p | 09:42 |
| directhex | £130 for a windows 8.1 x86 tablet from argos | 09:42 |
| directhex | http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2923020.htm#pdpFullProductInformation | 09:42 |
| diddledan_ | 1GB of ram won't get you far | 09:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | ah, bush... i have an an mp3 player from them, was the first time i had to use a manual to look up how to change volume... | 09:43 |
| directhex | bush is argos own-brand | 09:43 |
| foobarry | i remember playground religious wars over your make of stereo | 09:43 |
| directhex | also alba | 09:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | when we all should agree amstrad was best :-p | 09:44 |
| foobarry | 19 month old daughter is currently trying to plug a usb mouse into a wii adapter | 09:44 |
| foobarry | amstrad immediately came to mind as utter tat | 09:44 |
| foobarry | along with goodmans , matsui, bush, saisho, | 09:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | cheap and cheerful i'd say for amstrad | 09:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | sanyo | 09:44 |
| directhex | cheerful? sralan sugar is hardly cheerful | 09:44 |
| foobarry | cheap and nasty = alan sugar | 09:44 |
| foobarry | daughter managed to do it | 09:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | my sister spent a fortune on a pioneer stero in 80s. very swish | 09:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | i was the only one in the house who could set it up as the wiring was an adventure | 09:46 |
| diddledan_ | zmoylan-pi: xyzzy | 09:46 |
| foobarry | pioneer, sony, marantz, denon were the awesomez | 09:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | and it had a cd player!! oooooooooh | 09:47 |
| diddledan_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xyzzy_(computing) | 09:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | a unit that took more space than the turntable for vinyl | 09:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | and a double tape deck that saw a lot of usage when i got a zx spectrum :-) | 09:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | as it had a double speed copy function | 09:49 |
| foobarry | loss of quality at double speed | 09:55 |
| foobarry | causing game load failures | 09:55 |
| foobarry | there was lots of superstituous voodoo when u copied tapes | 09:55 |
| foobarry | some of it true | 09:55 |
| foobarry | keep the volume down or reduces quality of copy | 09:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | the games i copied at double speed never failed for me. the spectrum was very forgiving | 09:57 |
| foobarry | i was acorn man | 09:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | it was a huge leap from 2 tape recorders side by side on cushions to prevent vibrations from passing traffic been picked up | 09:58 |
| directhex | foobarry: oh man, volume settings. fired up a dragon 32 this weekend. getting the damn tapes to load @_@ | 09:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | my first spectrum tape recorder was a bit finicky. slide volume slider to 4 and then press it with finernail just a smidge, no more no less. | 10:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | it had been rescued from a skip so couldn't complain | 10:02 |
| foobarry | grundig | 10:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | this one had a joystick instead of buttons, it was rescued from a skip in a rehabilitation hospital so might have been a special jobbie for folks with limited limbs/dexterity | 10:03 |
| diddledan_ | ok, I appear to have lost the "default" greeter in lightdm | 10:03 |
| diddledan_ | this is normal ubuntu | 10:03 |
| diddledan_ | it's using some weird fallback | 10:04 |
| diddledan_ | https://www.dropbox.com/s/8jfdv1aoh1cc4zd/Screenshot%202014-10-20%2011.06.10.png?dl=0 | 10:06 |
| popey | $MORNING | 10:17 |
| MooDoo | morning popey | 10:17 |
| knightwise | hey everyone | 10:18 |
| foobarry | $GREETING | 10:18 |
| popey | stil loving my tesco hudl2 | 10:22 |
| directhex | is it blue? | 10:22 |
| foobarry | i will see how much munneh i have left after using tesco voucher for RAC cover | 10:22 |
| popey | no, kinda pink | 10:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | theft proof | 10:44 |
| popey | also easy to spot it | 10:44 |
| * zmoylan-pi remembers the dark night i stepped on my psion... :-( | 10:44 | |
| zmoylan-pi | or the basement network cabinet with no lights i dropped my black maglight after taking it out of it's holster before turning it on... | 10:45 |
| DJones | popey: My wife got a pink hudl2 at the weekend, she seems pleased with hers, bit heavier than my N7, but just as quick | 11:03 |
| MooDoo | oooo i'm looking at them for christmas pressies | 11:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | but if they're so cheap what happens if they get more than one for a pressie? what a faux pas! :-) | 11:09 |
| ujjain | paying rent does not improve your credit score right? unless you probably use a credit card, correct? | 11:19 |
| awilkins | ujjain, No idea about the US, but in general what improves your credit score is having debts and servicing them properly | 11:19 |
| MooDoo | yes it does, as you'll make regular payments. | 11:19 |
| ujjain | ah ok, right. I figured like properly paying contracts would help. | 11:20 |
| awilkins | Although for some reason my bank only increase my credit limit when I miss a payment and have to pay a fine on my card | 11:20 |
| ujjain | MooDoo, how is that? It seems they don't report it. | 11:20 |
| MooDoo | i would of thought if you didn't pay, you'd get a mark, have you had a look at your credit report with experian? | 11:20 |
| awilkins | When I do what I usually do which is to keep a positive balance on my card all the time so that I never have outstanding debt on it, they don't increase my credit limit. | 11:21 |
| xplora1a | ujjain: cerdit score is kept by companies like experion, to improve you need transaction with companies that subscribe to the checking service, ie mostly banks... | 11:21 |
| awilkins | It's almost like they LIKE delinquent debts... | 11:21 |
| ujjain | I have lookde at my credit report | 11:21 |
| ujjain | it's empty | 11:21 |
| MooDoo | my credit report wass shocking it took me years to get a decent one | 11:21 |
| awilkins | I got turned down for a credit card because I never had a job or any debts | 11:22 |
| ujjain | I asked the company I am paying rent too, £1600 monhtly, half on my cost, they say, take a credit card, we don't report you paying rent | 11:22 |
| awilkins | Well, I had a job | 11:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's either boring on time payments or a bad risk, those are your choices :-) | 11:22 |
| awilkins | Got paid well | 11:22 |
| ujjain | Experian credit report did not even show my job. | 11:22 |
| ujjain | or income, or bank account, it showed nothing. | 11:22 |
| ujjain | empty. | 11:22 |
| awilkins | Yeah, catch 22 | 11:22 |
| awilkins | Can't get credit because you've never taken credit | 11:22 |
| MooDoo | capital one do a high interest get your credit up card if i'm not mistaken? | 11:23 |
| awilkins | So they have an enhanced debt vehicle so you can prove that you can service debt? Nice. | 11:23 |
| ujjain | I don't care about interest on my credit card. It can be 200%, I don't need credit, just a credit score, because the paid bank account I wanted rejected me, probably because there's a small overdraft. | 11:25 |
| MooDoo | over draft doesn't count to your credit score | 11:26 |
| MooDoo | the fact i pay it off on time counts. | 11:26 |
| ujjain | if you don't have a credit score, you can be rejected for a bank account, because it has an overdraft | 11:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | well they hate that for a start :-) | 11:27 |
| awilkins | CCs hate you paying off on time.. | 11:27 |
| ujjain | I was rejected for nationwide flexplus | 11:27 |
| awilkins | They want the interest! And the fines! | 11:27 |
| awilkins | Like I said, they only bump my credit limit higher when I fail to pay on time... | 11:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | and to keep their threatening letters department in red ink | 11:27 |
| ujjain | yeah, they're animals, like payday loans, but on my ISA saver, I only get 1,5% | 11:28 |
| awilkins | Cash ISAs are mad | 11:28 |
| xplora1a | all my credit cards have direct debit of the full balance on the payment date. It can be hard to find these offers but very useful. | 11:47 |
| MartijnVdS | it's standard here | 11:53 |
| MartijnVdS | getting "spread payment" requires an extra form | 11:54 |
| ujjain | xplora1a means direct debit on the same day? | 12:02 |
| ujjain | on my Dutch credit it was payment back once a month, I think that's normal, after that you pay rent | 12:02 |
| christel | is there any particular reason you need that specific bank account (or bank for that matter)? you might find that you have more luck with a different bank | 12:05 |
| christel | i obviously don't know your situation but when i moved to the uk it was a pain in the arse to find someone who were happy to open an account for me | 12:06 |
| xplora1a | most of the problems arrise from the Anti Money Laundering legislation. Banks are required to Know Your Customer (KYC) for all accounts, this has nothing to do with credit status.. | 12:08 |
| ujjain | Flexplus has many benefits, insurance, etc. | 12:09 |
| MooDoo | vivid vervet | 14:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | velvet vole | 14:10 |
| MooDoo | no vivid vervet is 15.04 ubuntu | 14:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | i thought it was a silly name suggestion for 15.04 :-) | 14:12 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: you're freenode staff aren't you? | 14:12 |
| Myrtti | yup | 14:12 |
| MooDoo | could you help popey "who do I need to speak to about letting freenode know that there's 200+ people trying to connect from the same IP? | 14:12 |
| MooDoo | " | 14:12 |
| MooDoo | christel: could you help popey too ? | 14:13 |
| Myrtti | we've gotten the iline request | 14:13 |
| Myrtti | just prodded peeps | 14:13 |
| MooDoo | Thanks Myrtti :) | 14:14 |
| Myrtti | aw man my late lunch soup is too hot :-( | 14:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | time + hot soup = goldilocks zone | 14:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | + icky soup skin of course :-) | 14:17 |
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| diddledan_ | !isitoutyet | 14:23 |
| lubotu3 | NO | 14:23 |
| diddledan_ | :-p | 14:23 |
| diddledan_ | is it this week? | 14:24 |
| christel | MooDoo: myrtti made magic happen and they should now all be able to connect :) | 14:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | i usually wait a week before risking an install in case of 'surprises' | 14:24 |
| * popey spots lots of canonical people join irc, thanks Myrtti | 14:24 | |
| diddledan_ | popey: where you at? | 14:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | and do you know where car 54 is? :-) | 14:24 |
| christel | confernece! | 14:25 |
| diddledan_ | oooh | 14:25 |
| * diddledan_ confers | 14:25 | |
| christel | as you can tell we don't spellcheck our ilines :D | 14:25 |
| popey | diddledan_: Washington DC | 14:26 |
| MartijnVdS | Is the other Washington Washington AC | 14:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | it would explain the politicians ability to flip flop | 14:28 |
| diddledan_ | plop an oscillator onto the DC and you'll get AC | 14:28 |
| MartijnVdS | zmoylan-pi: except the other washington is on the other side of the country | 14:29 |
| diddledan_ | does this mean that Washington DC has been "rectified"? | 14:29 |
| * diddledan_ derezzes some citizens | 14:29 | |
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| MooDoo | thanks christel :) | 14:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | well you want to keep stupidity as far away as possible in case it's catching | 14:29 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan_: *degauss* | 14:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | i hope they don't have a pacemaker | 14:31 |
| diddledan_ | MartijnVdS: http://open.spotify.com/track/5aZCwTIsfqv22p5bewcrgf | 14:32 |
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| alex555 | Hi All, I've got a question that may be a bit off-topic; I'm new to London (and to the UK in general) and I'm looking for stores that can sell Desktops without Windows pre-installed (all major vendors tend to have Windows 7/8 preinstalled). I was disappointed to see that Dell's offering is very limited (only a single Desktop which in non-customizable); any suggestions? | 14:41 |
| Myrtti | do you want brand new or are refurbs ok too | 14:44 |
| alex555 | brand new | 14:45 |
| Azelphur | alex555: if you're looking for high end kit, pcspecialist do custom builds. | 14:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | build your own pc? | 14:48 |
| Azelphur | oh wait...desktop? y u no build your own | 14:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | a rasp pi and a really really big case? :-) | 14:48 |
| Azelphur | zmoylan-pi: http://i.imgur.com/nRFCS.jpg relevant :P | 14:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | you could have a cluster of those in 1 case :-) | 14:50 |
| Azelphur | haha | 14:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | why does your desktop pc have 6 power switches in the cd bay :-) | 14:51 |
| awilkins | alex556, I tend to buy parts and build my own - it's not actually very hard | 14:56 |
| awilkins | alex556, I've never owned a desktop PC that came with Windows pre-installed... although I've usually installed it to feed my gaming habit | 14:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | i usually buy cheap laptops from argos just before a new catalog comes out. and wipe the windows | 14:58 |
| awilkins | Got a nice G72 that way | 15:00 |
| awilkins | Only sub-£300 laptop I could find with a screen that had a res higher than 768 pixels high | 15:00 |
| DJones | awilkins: HP G72? | 15:00 |
| awilkins | Yeah | 15:00 |
| awilkins | The RAM gave out on it this year, I thought it worth buying replacement SODIMMs | 15:01 |
| awilkins | Also went to the effort of cleaning the fan assembly | 15:01 |
| awilkins | It's big and heavy but it makes a nice family couch laptop | 15:02 |
| DJones | I've got one of those at home, only used as a spare machine now, its a pretty decent machine, I think I paid £400 for it new about 4 years back | 15:02 |
| awilkins | My new employer just got me a souped-up zBook 15 | 15:02 |
| awilkins | 16GB of RAM. Case like a Bentley (big, heavy, sturdy, shiny) | 15:02 |
| awilkins | Had to tinker with the RAID array stuff but got it running Ubuntu last night with the mSATA drive as an SSD disk cache | 15:03 |
| DJones | awilkins: I got a Lenovo Y510P through work which relegated my G72 to spare, thats a nice machine | 15:04 |
| awilkins | I've gained a fondness for Lenovos | 15:04 |
| awilkins | They are the standard issue at the job I'm leaving | 15:04 |
| awilkins | It's either the Lenovo or a HYUUGE Dell Precision for the "developer workstation" laptop | 15:04 |
| awilkins | alex556, What's your budget for this PC? | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | anyone ever seen a website that simulates population growth based on user-supplied birth/death/life expectancy parameters? | 16:20 |
| ali1234 | like this thing, except you can watch it change in real time, with sliders to control the parameters: http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/interactive/vp1-story-of-the-census/index.html | 16:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | facebook? :-) | 16:21 |
| ali1234 | wat | 16:21 |
| * awilkins is loving mSATA card + bcache | 18:31 | |
| awilkins | *ka-chow* boot times, 750GB storage space.... | 18:32 |
| n1md4 | hello | 20:23 |
| n1md4 | i need to be able to disable requiretty in sudo for use with remote nagios calls, via ssh | 20:23 |
| n1md4 | I have Defaults:nagios !requiretty in sudoers, but it doesn't appear to be honouring it | 20:24 |
| n1md4 | any ideas? | 20:24 |
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