[00:14] <cmaloney> hola
[12:12] <brousch> Poor wolfger. My last move might make him cry
[12:13] <rick_h_> morning
[12:17] <brousch> rick_h_: Are you home?
[12:17] <rick_h_> brousch: yep, party from the normal office desk
[12:17] <brousch> Just in time to rake all the leaves!
[13:30] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:32] <mrgoodcat> morning
[13:32] <mrgoodcat> brousch: i'm afraid i'm getting roundly whooped this game
[13:33] <brousch> Maybe
[13:33] <brousch> I don't think you're doing so badly
[14:29] <brousch> rick_h_: What software do you guys use for your fancy gantt charts or burndown charts or that sort of thing?
[14:29] <rick_h_> brousch: no idea, we don't do them in our team
[14:30]  * brousch was expecting the usual rick-approved list
[14:30] <mrgoodcat> matplotlib
[14:30] <mrgoodcat> python only pls
[14:32] <cmaloney> numpy?
[14:32] <mrgoodcat> FUUUUU
[14:32] <mrgoodcat> brousch: this is so frustrating
[14:33] <cmaloney> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/GanttPV/0.1
[14:33] <brousch> mrgoodcat: I was a little worried about where you were going there. Luckily I found an out
[14:33] <jrwren> burndown charts are for bad managers. rick_h isn't one of those.
[14:33] <brousch> That actually typifies most of the game
[14:33] <mrgoodcat> i was trying to sneak in
[14:33] <mrgoodcat> turns out it was a bad idea
[14:33] <mrgoodcat> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:37] <cmaloney> https://axeheaven.com/store/miniature-drums/neil-peart-snakes-and-arrows-rush-drum-set-miniature-replica-collectible/
[14:37] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/dvjl0G - Neil Peart Snakes and Arrows Mini Drum Set Model Collectible | AXE HEAVEN® Miniature Guitars | Officially Licensed Fender™ by AXE HEAVEN® Miniature Guitar Replica Mini Stratocaster™ Telecaster™ Jazz Bass™ Custom Promo Mini Guitars Collectible Musical Instruments by Rock Star Guitarists
[14:39] <brousch> You know the world has gone crazy when Microsoft is the one working on cross-platform solutions http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2014/10/19/microsoft-wearable-smartwatch/
[14:39] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/zmcq6N - Microsoft Plans To Launch A Wearable Device Within Weeks - Forbes
[14:40] <jrwren> brousch: asp.net is targetting multiplatform. MSFT is making sublime plugins and stuff. It is a crazy world.
[14:41] <brousch> I'm so confused. I don't know if they are still evil. It could just be temporary insanity on their part.
[14:43] <mrgoodcat> I remember some marketing buzz about moving more towards the open source direction
[14:43] <mrgoodcat> never really thought much would come of it though
[14:43] <jrwren> brousch: MSFT hasn't been evil in 10yrs.
[14:44] <mrgoodcat> they have to make their watch cross-platform
[14:44] <mrgoodcat> not enough people have windows phones
[14:44] <jrwren> today, GOOG, FB, and AAPL are far more evil than MSFT is, and even was.
[14:44] <brousch> Well the cancer quote is from 2001, so maybe you're right
[14:48] <mrgoodcat> but nobody is as evil as china
[14:48] <mrgoodcat> https://en.greatfire.org/blog/2014/oct/china-collecting-apple-icloud-data-attack-coincides-launch-new-iphone
[14:48] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/B747uI - China collecting Apple iCloud data; attack coincides with launch of new iPhone | GreatFire.org
[14:48] <cmaloney> There's a surprise.
[15:18] <mrgoodcat> Ubuntu is 10 years old today
[15:32] <aisrael> rick_h_: which t-mobile mifi thing did you have?
[15:32] <mrgoodcat> he has verizon mifi i thought
[15:32] <mrgoodcat> tmobile phone
[15:33] <aisrael> oh, was it verizon?
[15:33] <mrgoodcat> i think he has a verizon jetpack
[15:40] <brousch> mrgoodcat: :-D
[15:41] <mrgoodcat> oh no you don't
[15:42] <brousch> liberty counting says you will win, but can you keep 2 eyes?
[15:42] <cmaloney> I need a text-based Go client. :)
[15:42] <mrgoodcat> brousch: yes i can
[15:42] <mrgoodcat> they're attached to my face
[15:42] <rick_h_> aisrael: I've got a verizon jetpack for home use, a huawei unlocked hspa+ one for internetaional use, and a unlocked motox 2014 I get international sims for when I travel.
[15:42] <mrgoodcat> you can't have them
[15:43] <mrgoodcat> 2 intl phones?
[15:43] <mrgoodcat> any difference between them?
[15:43] <rick_h_> well I've got a 2013 and 2014 motox (both work international)
[15:43] <rick_h_> but yes, two mifi's
[15:43] <rick_h_> the verizon one isn't unlocked, and is on a plan with my other stuff at verizon
[15:43] <mrgoodcat> oh the huawei is intl hotspot
[15:43] <mrgoodcat> i was confused
[15:43] <mrgoodcat> i got it now
[15:43] <rick_h_> the huawei one is never on a plan, I just take it with me when I travel for that use
[15:44] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: http://netsplit.com/happy-10th-birthday-ubuntu
[15:44] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/d4mSUy - Happy 10th Birthday, Ubuntu
[15:44] <rick_h_> go to copenhagen for a week, buy 2gb of data on a sim and go
[15:45] <mrgoodcat> jrwren: yea read that
[15:45] <aisrael> rick_h_: Ok, cool. It was that international one I was interested in. Good stuff, thanks.
[15:46] <rick_h_> aisrael: yea, just got it off amazon and been really useful
[15:46] <rick_h_> aisrael: this is the one I got though that was 3yrs ago now http://www.amazon.com/Unlocked-Huawei-E586E-Mobile-Broadband/dp/B007WYS7CK/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1413819959&sr=8-31&keywords=unlocked+hotspot
[15:47] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Z12zE3 - Amazon.com: Unlocked Huawei E586E 3G GSM HSPA+ 21 Mbps Mobile Broadband Router Hot Spot: Computers & Accessories
[15:52] <mrgoodcat> brousch: not sure where you're trying to go with this
[15:52] <brousch> Trying to see if I can kill it. I don't know if it's possible
[15:54] <jrwren> huawei?!?!? you bought a wuawei!?!?!?
[15:54] <jrwren> so... remember when we were talking about MSFT being evil earlier?
[15:54] <jrwren> huawei is 10x more evil than MSFT ever was. :p
[15:55] <brousch> really?
[15:55] <brousch> I don't even know what they make
[15:55] <mrgoodcat> phones
[15:55] <jrwren> brousch: they are chinese cisco, and they break all kinds of laws that US has, that china doesn't.
[15:56] <jrwren> brousch: they stole an old version of cisco iOS, shipped it on their routers, bugs and all.
[15:56] <mrgoodcat> cuz that makes sense
[15:56] <jrwren> US really should not allow importing of their products, but... china.
[15:56] <mrgoodcat> wouldn't want to use openWRT or something else completely free
[15:56] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: can claim cisco ios compat this way.
[15:56] <jrwren> EVEN THE BUGS!
[15:56] <mrgoodcat> i suppose
[15:56] <jrwren> enterpise networking folks hates open source and love cisco.
[15:57] <jrwren> they are nuts.
[15:57] <jrwren> they are more nuts than the Sun loving diehards.
[15:57] <jrwren> :)
[15:57] <mrgoodcat> yea i got a taste of that at my last job
[15:57] <mrgoodcat> when asking for network equipment essentially all they wanted to know is "does it say cisco on the box?"
[15:58] <mrgoodcat> uhm... no.... its just an ethernet cable....
[15:58] <mrgoodcat> but is it cisco?
[15:58] <mrgoodcat> uhm.... no....
[15:58] <mrgoodcat> then don't get it
[16:02] <jrwren> its a sad world.
[16:03] <mrgoodcat> 15.04 name was released today. sadly it was not voracious velociraptor
[16:03] <greg-g> jrwren: great, now that song is in my head
[16:03] <rick_h_>  s/released/annouced
[16:03] <greg-g> well, mad world, but yeah
[16:03] <rick_h_> announced
[16:03] <mrgoodcat> i said name was released
[16:04] <mrgoodcat> still technically correct i'd say
[16:04] <mrgoodcat> the best kind of correct
[16:04] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: ah, ok
[16:07] <jrwren> greg-g: the Torul cover?
[16:07] <jrwren> no fair, I don't even get email when those names are released :p
[18:12] <cmaloney> Wow, IBM is unloading their chip-pmaking facilities
[18:14] <jrwren> ah, so the open power8 was open for a reason.
[18:22] <cmaloney> Likely.
[19:39] <mrgoodcat> best response to an xkcd comic ever? http://code.flickr.net/2014/10/20/introducing-flickr-park-or-bird/
[19:39] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/vZiZCs - Introducing: Flickr PARK or BIRD | code.flickr.com
[20:14] <akelling> http://netsplit.com/happy-10th-birthday-ubuntu - dang I feel old.....
[20:14] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/d4mSUy - Happy 10th Birthday, Ubuntu
[20:21] <akelling> Man voracious velociraptor   would have been an epic name
[20:25] <mrgoodcat> thats what i said
[20:56] <mrgoodcat> apple is currently using a self-signed cert... https://apple.com/
[20:56] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/dlGq5 - Apple
[21:25] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: no, you are currently being MITMed :)
[21:38] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'm not seeing anything strange here
[21:43] <mrgoodcat> aha i found evidence i'm not crazy https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8484104
[21:44] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/d9Vnyh - Apple.com currently has a self-signed certificate (fixed now) | Hacker News
[21:44] <mrgoodcat> well fixed now
[22:38] <mrgoodcat> brousch: you for sure won this one
[23:17] <mrgoodcat> brousch: are you online?