[00:14] hola [12:12] Poor wolfger. My last move might make him cry [12:13] morning [12:17] rick_h_: Are you home? [12:17] brousch: yep, party from the normal office desk [12:17] Just in time to rake all the leaves! === jonathan___ is now known as Guest75229 [13:30] Good morning [13:32] morning [13:32] brousch: i'm afraid i'm getting roundly whooped this game [13:33] Maybe [13:33] I don't think you're doing so badly [14:29] rick_h_: What software do you guys use for your fancy gantt charts or burndown charts or that sort of thing? [14:29] brousch: no idea, we don't do them in our team [14:30] * brousch was expecting the usual rick-approved list [14:30] matplotlib [14:30] python only pls [14:32] numpy? [14:32] FUUUUU [14:32] brousch: this is so frustrating [14:33] https://pypi.python.org/pypi/GanttPV/0.1 [14:33] mrgoodcat: I was a little worried about where you were going there. Luckily I found an out [14:33] burndown charts are for bad managers. rick_h isn't one of those. [14:33] That actually typifies most of the game [14:33] i was trying to sneak in [14:33] turns out it was a bad idea [14:33] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [14:37] https://axeheaven.com/store/miniature-drums/neil-peart-snakes-and-arrows-rush-drum-set-miniature-replica-collectible/ [14:37] http://goo.gl/dvjl0G - Neil Peart Snakes and Arrows Mini Drum Set Model Collectible | AXE HEAVEN® Miniature Guitars | Officially Licensed Fender™ by AXE HEAVEN® Miniature Guitar Replica Mini Stratocaster™ Telecaster™ Jazz Bass™ Custom Promo Mini Guitars Collectible Musical Instruments by Rock Star Guitarists [14:39] You know the world has gone crazy when Microsoft is the one working on cross-platform solutions http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2014/10/19/microsoft-wearable-smartwatch/ [14:39] http://goo.gl/zmcq6N - Microsoft Plans To Launch A Wearable Device Within Weeks - Forbes [14:40] brousch: asp.net is targetting multiplatform. MSFT is making sublime plugins and stuff. It is a crazy world. [14:41] I'm so confused. I don't know if they are still evil. It could just be temporary insanity on their part. [14:43] I remember some marketing buzz about moving more towards the open source direction [14:43] never really thought much would come of it though [14:43] brousch: MSFT hasn't been evil in 10yrs. [14:44] they have to make their watch cross-platform [14:44] not enough people have windows phones [14:44] today, GOOG, FB, and AAPL are far more evil than MSFT is, and even was. [14:44] Well the cancer quote is from 2001, so maybe you're right [14:48] but nobody is as evil as china [14:48] https://en.greatfire.org/blog/2014/oct/china-collecting-apple-icloud-data-attack-coincides-launch-new-iphone [14:48] http://goo.gl/B747uI - China collecting Apple iCloud data; attack coincides with launch of new iPhone | GreatFire.org [14:48] There's a surprise. [15:18] Ubuntu is 10 years old today [15:32] rick_h_: which t-mobile mifi thing did you have? [15:32] he has verizon mifi i thought [15:32] tmobile phone [15:33] oh, was it verizon? [15:33] i think he has a verizon jetpack [15:40] mrgoodcat: :-D [15:41] oh no you don't [15:42] liberty counting says you will win, but can you keep 2 eyes? [15:42] I need a text-based Go client. :) [15:42] brousch: yes i can [15:42] they're attached to my face [15:42] aisrael: I've got a verizon jetpack for home use, a huawei unlocked hspa+ one for internetaional use, and a unlocked motox 2014 I get international sims for when I travel. [15:42] you can't have them [15:43] 2 intl phones? [15:43] any difference between them? [15:43] well I've got a 2013 and 2014 motox (both work international) [15:43] but yes, two mifi's [15:43] the verizon one isn't unlocked, and is on a plan with my other stuff at verizon [15:43] oh the huawei is intl hotspot [15:43] i was confused [15:43] i got it now [15:43] the huawei one is never on a plan, I just take it with me when I travel for that use [15:44] mrgoodcat: http://netsplit.com/happy-10th-birthday-ubuntu [15:44] http://goo.gl/d4mSUy - Happy 10th Birthday, Ubuntu [15:44] go to copenhagen for a week, buy 2gb of data on a sim and go [15:45] jrwren: yea read that [15:45] rick_h_: Ok, cool. It was that international one I was interested in. Good stuff, thanks. [15:46] aisrael: yea, just got it off amazon and been really useful [15:46] aisrael: this is the one I got though that was 3yrs ago now http://www.amazon.com/Unlocked-Huawei-E586E-Mobile-Broadband/dp/B007WYS7CK/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1413819959&sr=8-31&keywords=unlocked+hotspot [15:47] http://goo.gl/Z12zE3 - Amazon.com: Unlocked Huawei E586E 3G GSM HSPA+ 21 Mbps Mobile Broadband Router Hot Spot: Computers & Accessories [15:52] brousch: not sure where you're trying to go with this [15:52] Trying to see if I can kill it. I don't know if it's possible [15:54] huawei?!?!? you bought a wuawei!?!?!? [15:54] so... remember when we were talking about MSFT being evil earlier? [15:54] huawei is 10x more evil than MSFT ever was. :p [15:55] really? [15:55] I don't even know what they make [15:55] phones [15:55] brousch: they are chinese cisco, and they break all kinds of laws that US has, that china doesn't. [15:56] brousch: they stole an old version of cisco iOS, shipped it on their routers, bugs and all. [15:56] cuz that makes sense [15:56] US really should not allow importing of their products, but... china. [15:56] wouldn't want to use openWRT or something else completely free [15:56] mrgoodcat: can claim cisco ios compat this way. [15:56] EVEN THE BUGS! [15:56] i suppose [15:56] enterpise networking folks hates open source and love cisco. [15:57] they are nuts. [15:57] they are more nuts than the Sun loving diehards. [15:57] :) [15:57] yea i got a taste of that at my last job [15:57] when asking for network equipment essentially all they wanted to know is "does it say cisco on the box?" [15:58] uhm... no.... its just an ethernet cable.... [15:58] but is it cisco? [15:58] uhm.... no.... [15:58] then don't get it [16:02] its a sad world. [16:03] 15.04 name was released today. sadly it was not voracious velociraptor [16:03] jrwren: great, now that song is in my head [16:03] s/released/annouced [16:03] well, mad world, but yeah [16:03] announced [16:03] i said name was released [16:04] still technically correct i'd say [16:04] the best kind of correct [16:04] mrgoodcat: ah, ok [16:07] greg-g: the Torul cover? [16:07] no fair, I don't even get email when those names are released :p [18:12] Wow, IBM is unloading their chip-pmaking facilities [18:14] ah, so the open power8 was open for a reason. [18:22] Likely. [19:39] best response to an xkcd comic ever? http://code.flickr.net/2014/10/20/introducing-flickr-park-or-bird/ [19:39] http://goo.gl/vZiZCs - Introducing: Flickr PARK or BIRD | code.flickr.com [20:14] http://netsplit.com/happy-10th-birthday-ubuntu - dang I feel old..... [20:14] http://goo.gl/d4mSUy - Happy 10th Birthday, Ubuntu [20:21] Man voracious velociraptor would have been an epic name [20:25] thats what i said [20:56] apple is currently using a self-signed cert... https://apple.com/ [20:56] http://goo.gl/dlGq5 - Apple [21:25] mrgoodcat: no, you are currently being MITMed :) [21:38] Yeah, I'm not seeing anything strange here [21:43] aha i found evidence i'm not crazy https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8484104 [21:44] http://goo.gl/d9Vnyh - Apple.com currently has a self-signed certificate (fixed now) | Hacker News [21:44] well fixed now [22:38] brousch: you for sure won this one [23:17] brousch: are you online?