| rightniche | :) | 00:24 |
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| gQuigs | thinking about posting my survey to the lubuntu users list (https://bryanquigley.com/crazy-ideas/still-running-32-bit-ubuntu) about removing 32 bit images.. | 15:36 |
| gQuigs | is that the right thing to do? (then also post to xubuntu, as they are the two most likely to be used on older hardware, afaict) | 15:36 |
| testdr | gQuigs: you have to stick to LTS-14.04 and this will be then up to around 2020. You only need a newer Ubunut for new hardware and crazy software, that will not be available for older versions. | 15:41 |
| holstein | its challenging.. technology will move forward, and the linux kernel cant keep legacy support rolled in forever.. | 15:42 |
| testdr | this does not say it is not impossible - but it says it is time-consuming and may be useless, if there is hardly a usage of those backports. | 15:44 |
| holstein | no one will ever prevent anyone from using linux on a 32bit system.. but, the default iso's may not be maintained by default forever | 15:44 |
| holstein | one could always maintain a community port.. like the PPC is now | 15:44 |
| gQuigs | :) I'm just asking if you think it makes sense to post on the -users list.. of if that's out of scope to ask people to do a survey who are subscribed | 15:47 |
| gQuigs | hmm.. I didn't think of that.. I guess Lubuntu could keep 32 bit images going as a port... | 15:49 |
| holstein | well, *anyone* can keep whatever images they like going in wahtever capacity they choose | 15:51 |
| holstein | thats the nice thing about open software.. | 15:51 |
| phillw | gQuigs: a little hint... I am the guy who spins non-PAE kernel (with a lot of help). we will still be here for the 32 bit people come 2021, which is when 16.04 runs out. | 16:34 |
| gQuigs | phillw: awesome :) | 16:40 |
| elultimotellez | hi someone can help me to run kiwix in lubuntu? | 17:29 |
| wxl | !kiwix | 17:30 |
| wxl | no clue what that is | 17:30 |
| elultimotellez | is the client for the wikipedia offline | 17:30 |
| wxl | elultimotellez: you have to build it from source | 17:31 |
| wxl | elultimotellez: here's what you need to do essentially: unzip it and then http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Compilation | 17:32 |
| elultimotellez | mmm, the program include the excute field kiwix for linux, but a try your link thanks | 17:33 |
| elultimotellez | thanks bye | 17:35 |
| diffis | Hello! A question about lubuntu desktop: If I wish to hide menu entries (e.g. guvcview under Sound & Video), how can I actually do that? Some sources advice to edit or remove the corresponding .desktop files. But I'm a bit wondering, how this editing/removing can be done wisely? | 18:10 |
| ianorlin | diffis: I think you should maybe keep a backup copy of the old desktop files around | 18:27 |
| ianorlin | then you can move them back if you break anything | 18:27 |
| ianorlin | also editing them for your user in your home folder will be good so you don't break it for other users if any | 18:27 |
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| diffis | ianorlin: Yes, a backup is definitely good point - and also planned. xD | 18:28 |
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| diffis | ianorlin: But I can simply remove those that I consider 'unneeded'? | 18:29 |
| ianorlin | thing is removing them will take them out of your system | 18:33 |
| ianorlin | you can get a version of guvcview in ~/.local/share/applications/guvcview.desktop and then add noshowin line to it have it not show on menu and yet if something happens and a nother user ends up on your comp you can still use guvcview | 18:35 |
| ianorlin | on that other user without cluttering up your menu | 18:35 |
| ianorlin | removing it will work but getting it back will be the hard part if things change and you want to use a webcam | 18:36 |
| diffis | ianorlin: A noshowing line? What's that? I haven't seen any examples for that... | 18:37 |
| ianorlin | so you can add NOTSHOWIN=LXDE to your file for guvcview | 18:38 |
| ianorlin | it makes it not show in LXDE | 18:38 |
| diffis | Cool! | 18:39 |
| ianorlin | and if it is in your home folder you won't have family move in that want to use their webcam and not be able to | 18:40 |
| diffis | Thank you. I was searching something like this, but I couldn't find anything related to it... So thought, it doesn't exist... :D | 18:40 |
| diffis | Perhaps I can now edit the menu - once I have time to do that. Thank you again. ^^ | 18:41 |
| garbonzo | hi all... will lxqt be a good or a bad thing for people using old/slow systems? | 21:38 |
| wxl | should be good | 21:38 |
| wxl | that's always our goal is to best support old/slow machines | 21:39 |
| garbonzo | read that it's going to be in Lubuntu soon... does that sound right? | 21:39 |
| ianorlin | yes but not relase in two days but hopefully one after | 21:39 |
| wxl | it's NOT going to be in 14.10. it MAY be in 15.04. | 21:39 |
| garbonzo | excellent. | 21:39 |
| wxl | there is nothing certain yet | 21:39 |
| wxl | there's a lot of work to do and i'm not certain we can get it done in 6 months | 21:39 |
| ianorlin | yes it certainly is lots of work | 21:39 |
| garbonzo | of course -- forgot that Ubuntu had a new release, so have to update my lubuntu! | 21:40 |
| wxl | but the gtk parts of lxde are starting to slow in development | 21:40 |
| wxl | so at some point i imagine we will HAVE to make the switch | 21:40 |
| wxl | the new release is in 2 days | 21:40 |
| garbonzo | looking forward to it | 21:40 |
| wxl | we're doing the last minute prep | 21:40 |
| wxl | mainly for lubuntu it was a bug fix release | 21:40 |
| wxl | so we have a "clean slate" to work on qt from | 21:41 |
| garbonzo | it saved an old toughbook I inherited from the scrapheap... | 21:41 |
| wxl | neat :) | 21:41 |
| wxl | it's saved many an old machine for me | 21:41 |
| garbonzo | was nearly unusable in XP and, well, doesn't fly along in lubuntu but it's perfectly usable. | 21:41 |
| garbonzo | plus, if anyone tries to take it off me i just wallop 'em with the metal case :-) | 21:42 |
| wxl | hahha | 21:42 |
| wxl | glad you're enjoying it :) | 21:42 |
| wxl | are you already a member of the mailing list? | 21:42 |
| garbonzo | scored a lot of street cred points at the hackspace :-) | 21:42 |
| garbonzo | no, not yet | 21:42 |
| wxl | oh you should join | 21:42 |
| garbonzo | guess i should be | 21:42 |
| wxl | and there's always ways to help should you ever want to contribute | 21:43 |
| wxl | we've got jobs for everyone :) | 21:43 |
| garbonzo | i'm not a programmer though | 21:43 |
| wxl | don't need to be | 21:43 |
| wxl | don't even need to be technically proficient! :) | 21:43 |
| garbonzo | can write a little, do some graphics, play kazoo... | 21:43 |
| wxl | well the wiki and communications teams always need help | 21:44 |
| wxl | so that writing/organizational skill can be of help | 21:44 |
| wxl | and of course there's always artwork/graphics, so you'd be welcome there | 21:44 |
| wxl | even testing doesnt' require much skill | 21:44 |
| garbonzo | if it's something i can do spare time, then perhaps. have some commitments with kid-care and studying for my intro linux certs... | 21:44 |
| garbonzo | testing is good too | 21:44 |
| wxl | neat! | 21:44 |
| wxl | yeah all of this stuff is volunteer based | 21:45 |
| wxl | so you contribute as much as you can | 21:45 |
| garbonzo | sounds interesting | 21:45 |
| ianorlin | also for that bug in the evince with not being able to change zoom should I mail the main ubuntu-quality list about the bug as it effect many flavors | 21:45 |
| silverlion | garbonzo : testing would be the most important thing ;) | 21:45 |
| wxl | despite being release manager and head of qa (and trying really hard to continue to support ppc chips), i have a full time job, a 12 year old who's involved in a ton of activities, a wife with medical needs, and a house that is constantly in need of stuff | 21:46 |
| wxl | ianorlin: yes please | 21:46 |
| garbonzo | i can blow stuff up with the best of them | 21:46 |
| wxl | garbonzo: testing is actually not that exciting XD | 21:46 |
| silverlion | neither is communications ;) | 21:46 |
| wxl | hahhahaa | 21:46 |
| wxl | check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved garbonzo | 21:47 |
| garbonzo | tell me about it. have been doing comms work for ~25 years and it drives me nuts... | 21:47 |
| garbonzo | yes, i will | 21:47 |
| garbonzo | ok, bookmarked | 21:47 |
| wxl | if you need help knowing who to talk to about any particular interest of yours, let me know | 21:47 |
| garbonzo | will do | 21:47 |
| wxl | and if you want to help with testing, let me know and i'll give you the run down :) | 21:47 |
| silverlion | garbonzo : ~10 now for me | 21:47 |
| garbonzo | probably better to read up on what the various teams want and then get back to you | 21:47 |
| wxl | sounds like a good plan | 21:48 |
| garbonzo | in principle, anything that drives devs nuts has to be a good place to start :-) | 21:48 |
| wxl | hahaha | 21:49 |
| silverlion | garbonzo : then you would be a great asset for my team as I have the extreme pleasure driving wxl nuts with stupid questions :D | 21:49 |
| garbonzo | i salute you | 21:49 |
| silverlion | ??? | 21:50 |
| silverlion | is it strange that I like that position? | 21:51 |
| wxl | no :) | 21:51 |
| garbonzo | anyone who drives devs crazy gets my vote! there's nothing to beat that little look of despair as i stick my head 'round their cubicle door and say 'oh, just one more thing if you have a moment...' :-) | 21:51 |
| wxl | garbonzo: that's what bug reports are for :) | 21:52 |
| wxl | devs usually ignore everything else XD | 21:52 |
| silverlion | wxl : don't you dare ignoring me :P | 21:52 |
| silverlion | you know my magic of words don't you? | 21:52 |
| garbonzo | lol! | 21:52 |
| wxl | what, me, ignore you? naaawww :) | 21:53 |
| garbonzo | while i remember, is there any good way to map the 'windows' (super??) key to the main menu? | 21:54 |
| wxl | yeah hold on | 21:55 |
| garbonzo | please no suggestions involving resoldering :-) | 21:55 |
| ianorlin | sticker | 21:56 |
| garbonzo | s'cheating... | 21:56 |
| wxl | garbonzo: use Super_R or Super_L for your key in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml | 21:57 |
| garbonzo | thanks. i'll give that a go | 21:57 |
| garbonzo | will read up on the volunteer opportunities and get back to you. see you around! | 22:01 |
| wxl | see ya | 22:01 |
| garbonzo | bye | 22:01 |
| samineru | Hi there, my /home partition is on a RAID drive, and was unexpectedly unavailable at first boot after install. I wasn't able to log in as a normal user, and can't seem to elevate to sudo from the guest account. How do I setup raid at boot? | 22:47 |
| ianorlin | when you say login as a normal user do you mean in lightdm or in a tty or both? | 22:51 |
| samineru | ianorlin: I mean within lightdm, tty login is fine, so ignore that detail, sorry | 23:10 |
| ianorlin | because you could sudo with your normal user on lightdm but I personally don't know how to get raid working | 23:15 |
| ianorlin | I have never used raid myself | 23:16 |
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