| vitimiti | I have copied the header files needed for quazip and it still doesn't work | 00:02 |
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| vitimiti | At least now it is QuaZipFile what complains | 00:12 |
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| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, how goes the music app ? | 03:14 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, it goes good :) | 03:14 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, good to hear :) | 03:14 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, we're really really close now :) hopefully hehe | 03:14 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, yah my email has been filled up with your merge requests. you guys have been busy | 03:15 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, yeah and lots offline as well | 03:15 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, anything you are particularly proud of? | 03:15 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, u'll see hopefully ;) | 03:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, heh; you mean I'll have to wait until the phones are released? | 03:16 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, mainly lots of polish today though and landing a few other bits | 03:16 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, no wait until i push the code online aha | 03:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Nice. | 03:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Are you going to the ubuntu online summit? | 03:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | 14.11 ? | 03:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | https://launchpad.net/sprints/uos-1411 ahayzen | 03:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | erm | 03:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/ | 03:17 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, yeah i will be but thats next month...i don't plan my next day aha | 03:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | heh | 03:18 |
| akiva-thinkpad | this is my first one; I'm pretty excited. | 03:18 |
| ahayzen | yeah lots of sessions to get involved in, its good fun :) | 03:18 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I miss so many of these events because I never know they are going on in the first place. | 03:18 |
| * ahayzen tries to think where he hears of most of them | 03:19 | |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, I actually found it on here http://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuAppDev/ | 03:19 |
| ahayzen | yeah usually on AppDev across social media or podcasts i suppose | 03:19 |
| * akiva-thinkpad does not do enough social media | 03:20 | |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, ping me when you make a nice big release of the music app; I want to be the first to test it. | 03:21 |
| ahayzen | G+ UbuntuAppDev is usually enough | 03:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | oh never knew about that | 03:21 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, we are hoping to make a click tomorrow so i'll ping it across for u to test :) | 03:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | nice | 03:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Can you install click packages on the desktop? | 03:22 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, erm no...but u can branch and then run from terminal :) | 03:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, will have to wait until unity8 makes it to the desktop I take it? | 03:23 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, yeah we need mir and things | 03:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, figured as much | 03:23 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, you have got these two on G+ https://plus.google.com/communities/111350780270925540549 https://plus.google.com/111697084657487423167/posts | 03:24 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, thanks adding them now | 03:25 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, and the mailing lists are good to follow as well | 03:26 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, probably | 03:27 |
| akiva-thinkpad | thanks appreciate it | 03:27 |
| akiva-thinkpad | mmmm I really dislike g+'s design. so sporatic with things sitting all over the place. | 03:28 |
| ahayzen | its too slow on my machine to load lol | 03:30 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, gotta give that typewriter a new ribbon, and update its ram | 03:30 |
| ahayzen | my machine is fast...just FF&G+ seem really slow | 03:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, I notice that chrome is pretty quick when I start to use it, but I always go back to ff because I find its search to be so much nicer. | 03:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Chrome bugs me for some reason | 03:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, duckduckgo is doing interesting stuff; apparently they embedded support for askubuntu in it | 03:32 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, i have duckduckgo as my homepage these days been trialling it instead of google, its been quite interesting | 03:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, is it good enough to use yet? | 03:33 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, they seem to chime the open source bell a bit more than Google, which is why I am considering switching. | 03:33 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, like probably 80-90% of the time...sometimes you just have to be a little more specific in your search | 03:33 |
| akiva-thinkpad | interesting | 03:34 |
| ahayzen | akiva-thinkpad, and other times it is far better than google with like the integrated stackoverflow answers | 03:34 |
| akiva-thinkpad | VERY interesting | 03:34 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ahayzen, one thing that really bothers me about googles search algorythm, is when I search for the ubuntu help pages | 03:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | it always shows 0.1 version | 03:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | and I have to navigate around to find 14.10 | 03:35 |
| ahayzen | hah yeah and you sometimes get the qt4.8 before 5.3 | 03:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I know | 03:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | that bugs me so much! | 03:35 |
| ajalkane | akiva-thinkpad: I don't have at all experience with keypresses, but there's already some keypress code in file manager - I think it should be pretty easy to take as an example and adapt to that. | 04:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, all it says is "keypress"! | 04:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :P | 04:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | true that | 04:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, going to the ubuntu online summit? | 04:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | https://launchpad.net/sprints/uos-1411 | 04:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :) | 04:23 |
| ajalkane | akiva-thinkpad: that one might be a bit difficult what with the work intervening :). Will see, would be nice though | 04:27 |
| akiva-thinkpad | gtg | 04:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | later | 04:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | o/ | 04:28 |
| ajalkane | But going to sleep now too, cya tomorrow | 04:28 |
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| vitimiti | Hi | 09:35 |
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| dpm | balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-docviewer-app/add-plugin/+merge/237545 | 12:24 |
| dpm | dholbach, ^ | 12:27 |
| dpm | dholbach, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-docviewer-app-utopic-amd64-ci/43/console | 12:27 |
| popey | ahayzen: dpm vthompson we're in istanbul for the music app design update session... | 12:31 |
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| rpadovani | dpm, mzanetti ok, copy and paste an image from internet to a note works well \o/ | 12:49 |
| rpadovani | (I love when we find feature we didn't know to have) | 12:49 |
| mzanetti | \o/ | 12:50 |
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| mihir | mzanetti: when you get time could you push that changes ? | 13:20 |
| mzanetti | mihir: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8606830/ | 13:20 |
| mihir | mzanetti: thanks i'll try and update you. | 13:21 |
| ahayzen | jdstrand, ping | 13:35 |
| jdstrand | ahayzen: hey | 13:35 |
| ahayzen | jdstrand, hey so last confinement thing... we moved to rtm and we're getting this.. | 13:35 |
| ahayzen | jdstrand, Oct 20 04:41:08 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [17638.562210] type=1400 audit(1413776468.504:177): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="com.ubuntu.music_music_1.3.672" name="/home/phablet/.cache/QML/Apps/" pid=28161 comm="qmlscene" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=32011 | 13:35 |
| ahayzen | jdstrand, i assume this is todo with application caching? but i don't see the same denial for other apps? | 13:36 |
| jdstrand | ahayzen: this is bug #1381620 | 13:36 |
| ubot5 | bug 1381620 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "apparmor read denial on ~/.cache/QML/Apps/" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1381620 | 13:36 |
| ahayzen | jdstrand, so is it safe to ignore for now? | 13:36 |
| jdstrand | ahayzen: I'm told it is just noise and doesn't affect anything | 13:36 |
| ahayzen | jdstrand, awesome so we can probably land our confinement branch :) | 13:37 |
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| funcpla | Are other mods of /r/UbuntuAppDev here? | 14:11 |
| dpm | ajalkane, swordfish http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ | 14:22 |
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| mihir | dpm: why suddenly pot file is being updated by itself ? | 15:05 |
| mihir | and we have to do revert all time and that's annoying :( | 15:05 |
| dpm | mihir, it's updated on every build. You can either revert as you are doing, or remove the ALL keyword in the rule that builds the template in po/CMakeLists.txt | 15:06 |
| mihir | dpm: okay gotcha. | 15:06 |
| jdstrand | ahayzen: nice! :) | 15:30 |
| balloons | mihir, /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/ubuntuuitoolkit/_custom_proxy_objects/pickers.py | 15:34 |
| balloons | mihir, then the test is /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/ubuntuuitoolkit/tests/custom_proxy_objects/test_date_picker.py | 15:34 |
| popey | fginther: calendar doesn't autobuild at http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/calendar-app-click/ - why? | 15:43 |
| popey | balloons: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/calendar-app-click/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/out/com.ubuntu.calendar_0.4.515_all.click | 16:00 |
| popey | beuno on the individual app stats pages, we get ~2 weeks of graph. Is there a view where I can see further back, or the raw data? | 16:06 |
| mihir | nik90: you around ? | 16:16 |
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| vitimiti | Hi | 17:29 |
| dpm | hey rpadovani, ajalkane is implementing the bottom edge for file manager and has some questions. I thought as you implemented it for Reminders not too long ago, you might be able to give him a hand. Are you with the Telegram guys now? | 17:32 |
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| dholbach | dpm, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-docviewer-app/pep8-fixes/+merge/239114 | 17:53 |
| dholbach | dpm, lp:~dholbach/ubuntu-docviewer-app/missing-import | 17:58 |
| beuno | popey, I don't think so. File a bug? | 18:21 |
| popey | ok | 18:21 |
| vthompson | ahayzen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8618033/ | 18:25 |
| balloons | mihir, how goes it? | 18:36 |
| nik90 | balloons: can you push out a new clock to the store? | 18:37 |
| nik90 | rev 158 | 18:38 |
| mihir | balloons: i guess we had problem of docking picker and getting values back to the caller object. | 18:42 |
| mihir | balloons: that was the reason we used this way. | 18:43 |
| balloons | nik90, ack will do | 18:48 |
| nik90 | thnx | 18:48 |
| * nik90 goes back to dinner | 18:48 | |
| balloons | mihir, can you file a bug / show some demo code that does this? | 18:48 |
| balloons | nik90, uploaded.. popey review? | 18:53 |
| popey | balloons: nik90 approved | 18:57 |
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| mihir | balloons: sure , but still let me figure out . before filing bug | 19:08 |
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| mihir | zsombi: t1mp is there any way i can dock DateTime control as PickerPanel.openDatePicker does ? | 19:45 |
| zsombi | mihir: DateTime control? | 19:51 |
| mihir | zsombi: i meant DateTime Picker | 19:53 |
| zsombi | mihir: PickerPanel opens the DatePicker... I Don't get your question... | 19:54 |
| mihir | zsombi: yes it does, but we're unable to get the object in Autopilot. | 19:54 |
| zsombi | mihir: if you want to show a time picker, then you need to set the mode for the openDatePicker, check teh docs | 19:55 |
| mihir | zsombi: yup , it works well as expected , the only thing we are not able to get it objectName in Autopilots, is there anyway we can achieve this ? | 19:55 |
| zsombi | mihir: I don't think so... | 19:56 |
| mihir | zsombi: can i file bug for this , or this is not possible ? | 19:58 |
| zsombi | mihir: I don't think we can do anything about that AP is not finding an object somewhere... | 19:59 |
| zsombi | mihir: perhaps you should check with someone from AP | 19:59 |
| mihir | zsombi: hmm okay , will do that. thank you. | 20:03 |
| mihir | balloons: ^^ for your reference. | 20:04 |
| zsombi | mihir: so, do I understand you that the problem is that AP is not finding the DatePicker opened by the PickerPanel? | 20:04 |
| zsombi | mihir: (just for my records :) | 20:05 |
| balloons | zsombi, mihir is asking how to assign an objectname in this case | 20:09 |
| zsombi | balloons: mihir: AFAIK PickerPanel.openDatePicker() returns the object opened...(unfortunately not documented, so that's a bug!) , which is either the panel or the popover... and AFAIK you can look for an object based on any property, not just objectName, so that might help | 20:11 |
| balloons | zsombi, very true, indeed you could use a parent object and select the child based upon the property | 20:12 |
| zsombi | balloons: +1 ;) | 20:12 |
| balloons | zsombi, but of course if he is using openDatePicker, the autopilot helper for the toolkit won't work | 20:13 |
| zsombi | balloons: uhh... | 20:13 |
| balloons | I think I'll have a play with him locally and see if there's some tweaks we can do | 20:13 |
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| mihir | balloons: sadly , AttributeError: 'MainViewTestCase' object has no attribute 'print_tree' | 20:41 |
| mihir | balloons: this is the testcase , http://paste.ubuntu.com/8619373/ | 20:42 |
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| Jarli | Hey akiva-thinkpad | 21:19 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, heya | 21:21 |
| akiva-thinkpad | hows it going? | 21:21 |
| Jarli | Its going, just got everything setup | 21:21 |
| Jarli | Should I dl the installer for that or try and get the src instead? | 21:21 |
| Jarli | and thanks again | 21:22 |
| ajalkane | akiva-thinkpad: I've done some improvements to your file manager header branch | 21:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, did you have bazar | 21:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, oh great! | 21:22 |
| ajalkane | I'll do a merge request to your branch | 21:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | i worked on it a bit this morning in bed | 21:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, yes please do that | 21:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, what did you do by the way? | 21:22 |
| Jarli | let me find bazar | 21:22 |
| ajalkane | I considered removing the path history, but seeing how much you must have worked on it I tried another approach. I changed ">" into "/" and i think now it's not confusing | 21:23 |
| Jarli | Bazaar Explorer? | 21:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I implimented a up, down, backwards, and forwards button | 21:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, ah perfect. | 21:23 |
| ajalkane | many little things and fixes, mainly the Places pullover | 21:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, yes | 21:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | oh great | 21:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, here lets exchange screenshots | 21:23 |
| Jarli | should I also get Bazaar Version Control? | 21:24 |
| ajalkane | The places pullover is still buggy, it doesn't respect the theme. But I will need to ask around here if someone knows what's the matter with it | 21:24 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, erm, that should come with bazar explorer | 21:24 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, get guake as well | 21:24 |
| akiva-thinkpad | and shutter | 21:24 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, thats cool | 21:24 |
| Jarli | I've already dl'd the other list you gave me, those included | 21:24 |
| Jarli | is there anyway to increase the font size in hex chat? | 21:25 |
| akiva-thinkpad | It appears the designers won't have a chance to look at this until probably next week, so we have time to be in the sandbox | 21:25 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, don't know. I would think so | 21:25 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, yes | 21:25 |
| akiva-thinkpad | press left alt to bring up the hud | 21:25 |
| akiva-thinkpad | and type "Preferences" | 21:25 |
| akiva-thinkpad | its should be the first thing | 21:25 |
| * akiva-thinkpad changes mine to ubuntu mono | 21:26 | |
| akiva-thinkpad | :) | 21:26 |
| Jarli | there we go, now I don't need my glasses | 21:26 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, heh | 21:26 |
| akiva-thinkpad | okay open up guake | 21:27 |
| Jarli | :-) | 21:27 |
| Jarli | ok | 21:27 |
| Jarli | F12 to use it I'm assuming | 21:27 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, I definitely want your feedback on something | 21:27 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, yes | 21:27 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, the only other time you use f12 is when you are inspecting the source code of firefox :P | 21:28 |
| ajalkane | damn accidentally tried merging into trunk | 21:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, lol | 21:28 |
| Jarli | OK, so really noob question, how can I dl the source code to begin looking at it, and get it going | 21:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, thats what were gonna do | 21:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :) | 21:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, in guake btw, go to the settings first, and change the opacity to be darker | 21:29 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Thats what I usually do | 21:29 |
| akiva-thinkpad | anyways | 21:29 |
| Jarli | I was reading the source at work on the site there, and there are no mark-ups at all | 21:29 |
| ajalkane | Well, hopefully it's linked to correct branch | 21:29 |
| ajalkane | now | 21:29 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, :DDDDD | 21:30 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, Jarli, okay in guake go type "cd ~" ; as that means go home | 21:30 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ~ = home | 21:30 |
| Jarli | yep | 21:30 |
| akiva-thinkpad | now you are probably already in home but whatevs | 21:30 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, type "mkdir Programming" | 21:30 |
| Jarli | mkdir Programming | 21:30 |
| Jarli | haha | 21:30 |
| akiva-thinkpad | thats, "Make a directory called Programming" | 21:30 |
| Jarli | wrong window | 21:30 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :P | 21:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | then cd into Programming | 21:31 |
| Jarli | done, ok im in programming | 21:31 |
| Jarli | yep | 21:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, okay now we will use bazar | 21:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | type "bzr branch lp:nanny" | 21:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Branch means... fork, sort of | 21:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | lp: means launchpad | 21:32 |
| Jarli | yep | 21:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | nanny is the name of the project page | 21:32 |
| Jarli | its dling | 21:32 |
| Jarli | 368 revisions.... | 21:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, that just means 368 changes or times its been committed. | 21:33 |
| Jarli | oh good, cause it says Branched, I assumed that there we just that many versions floating out thtere | 21:33 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, okay open the dash, and find geany | 21:33 |
| Jarli | k thats running | 21:34 |
| akiva-thinkpad | alright now I have to find the project page :P I don't develop python projects that often | 21:35 |
| * akiva-thinkpad starts poking around | 21:35 | |
| akiva-thinkpad | feel free to poke around too | 21:35 |
| Jarli | https://launchpad.net/nanny | 21:36 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, ah here it is; download glade | 21:40 |
| akiva-thinkpad | this is the gtk3 sdk | 21:40 |
| Jarli | in guake or in term? | 21:40 |
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| akiva-thinkpad | jarli whereever. Get it from the software center | 21:40 |
| Jarli | terminal | 21:41 |
| Jarli | much easier | 21:41 |
| akiva-thinkpad | suit yourself | 21:41 |
| Jarli | can guake download and install like terminal, or is it just a programming editor? | 21:41 |
| Jarli | I guess I just answered my own question since I made a folder | 21:42 |
| Jarli | eh | 21:42 |
| akiva-thinkpad | guake is a terminal | 21:42 |
| akiva-thinkpad | yes :P | 21:42 |
| Jarli | yah :-) | 21:42 |
| Jarli | anyways Glade is downloaded | 21:43 |
| akiva-thinkpad | sorry was in the washroom | 21:45 |
| Jarli | no problem | 21:45 |
| Jarli | just don't let it happen again :-! | 21:45 |
| Jarli | :-P | 21:45 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, mmmm, this does not appear to be a glade project | 21:46 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :O bah ! | 21:47 |
| * akiva-thinkpad wants to figure this out... | 21:47 | |
| Jarli | * uninstalls glade | 21:47 |
| Jarli | can I help some how | 21:48 |
| Jarli | ? | 21:48 |
| ajalkane | akiva-thinkpad: I still need to work on the "Unlock full access", so I'll do something about that today later or most likely tomorrow. After that I think I'm very happy with the changes, and we'll see what others think | 21:48 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, okay before you go, let me get your opinion on something | 21:48 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, http://i.imgur.com/7S82DZO.png | 21:51 |
| akiva-thinkpad | okay so I was playing around with it today. I didnt really like the button on the top right to be a "Backwards" in history button; I found it pretty unintuitive | 21:51 |
| akiva-thinkpad | so i was thinking of moving the navigation buttons down into the small header at the bottom. | 21:52 |
| akiva-thinkpad | so what they represent, is backwards and forwards in history, like nautilus has, | 21:53 |
| Jarli | I like that idea akiva-thinkpad, but also you could add the navigation pane onto the left of the image | 21:53 |
| akiva-thinkpad | and "Up" and "Down" for going in the parents | 21:53 |
| akiva-thinkpad | left of which image? | 21:54 |
| Jarli | http://i.imgur.com/7S82DZO.png | 21:54 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, there is no left --- :P | 21:55 |
| Jarli | add a left column | 21:55 |
| akiva-thinkpad | this is for a phone | 21:55 |
| Jarli | im saying add it :P | 21:55 |
| akiva-thinkpad | so there won't be space. | 21:55 |
| Jarli | ah | 21:55 |
| Jarli | well | 21:55 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ^_^ | 21:55 |
| akiva-thinkpad | and there actually already is a pane there when the manager expands | 21:55 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, okay back to your project | 21:56 |
| ajalkane | akiva-thinkpad: I don't think that goes well with Ubuntu Touch design language and other core apps. Try out my branch, I think navigation is now a breeze. Single click on the current folder and up you go | 21:57 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, anyways, sorry; not terribly familiar with building the project files for gnome applications, so this is a learning experience myself. | 21:57 |
| ajalkane | But I gotta go now, will be back later in evening | 21:57 |
| akiva-thinkpad | ajalkane, okay. Later | 21:57 |
| akiva-thinkpad | thanks for the work | 21:57 |
| Jarli | sorry last comment on yours, you could do something like a game-pad thumb controller at the top near the 3 - - - | 21:57 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :) | 21:57 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, heh; That would be tough | 21:58 |
| Jarli | adjust it to the left of the file or menu item there to the top right, left 1 use something like <^> | 21:58 |
| Jarli | and a down one as well as needed | 21:58 |
| Jarli | but it would be simple, all of the navigation in one pane | 21:58 |
| Jarli | (end-user) wise | 21:58 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, I think I might copy what nautilus does.... This will be a hard sell | 21:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I could add a pane on top as well. | 21:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Maybe I'll do that. | 21:59 |
| Jarli | akiva-thinkpad, what specifically does nautilus do? | 21:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, Oh it just has a backwards and forwards button side by side. | 22:00 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, you gave me an idea though. | 22:00 |
| Jarli | ah | 22:00 |
| Jarli | what android are you developing for? | 22:01 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, not android; ubuntu touch | 22:01 |
| Jarli | ah | 22:01 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, have you seen it yet? | 22:02 |
| akiva-thinkpad | its slated for a release this december | 22:02 |
| Jarli | I've heard about it, but haven't looked it up | 22:02 |
| Jarli | isn't it being privately launched? | 22:02 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, its amazing. Much nicer than android. | 22:02 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, its being developed in open source. | 22:03 |
| akiva-thinkpad | so | 22:03 |
| akiva-thinkpad | nope | 22:03 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, like you can fork an image right now if you wanted to. | 22:03 |
| Jarli | "Users can surface their content naturally and industry can customise endlessly" what the hell is wrong with this description... | 22:03 |
| Jarli | surface.... surface.... not Surf | 22:04 |
| Jarli | someone smack someone | 22:04 |
| akiva-thinkpad | heh | 22:04 |
| Jarli | Ok anyways, did I thoroughly distract you? | 22:07 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, just reading through this | 22:07 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, You may want to download the ubuntu sdk | 22:07 |
| Jarli | already did | 22:07 |
| akiva-thinkpad | go search for it in google, because there is a custom ppa you should get | 22:07 |
| * akiva-thinkpad is just reading through this... | 22:08 | |
| akiva-thinkpad | okay I think I'm getting close :P | 22:10 |
| akiva-thinkpad | bah so many things to do | 22:15 |
| Jarli | do I open the client or what? | 22:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, go into nanny, and try to run ./autogen.sh | 22:16 |
| Jarli | using ubuntu-sdk | 22:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I believe this will create a makefile that you can use to open up a project | 22:16 |
| akiva-thinkpad | but I am running into dependency issues because this application is quite old. | 22:16 |
| Jarli | (I got it running on qimo4kids) no additional items required | 22:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, did you get the project files though ? | 22:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I am speaking about being able to edit the source code. | 22:17 |
| Jarli | Just did a direct install, I had to add a repo though | 22:17 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Running the program is different. | 22:17 |
| Jarli | how am I supposed to run ./autogen.sh? | 22:20 |
| Jarli | from the directory where I dl's the source? | 22:20 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, "./" and "sh" are basically commands that say "Execute this file" | 22:20 |
| Jarli | sorry (still noobed) here | 22:20 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, no problem :) | 22:21 |
| Jarli | I still don't know where I'm supposed to be running this from | 22:22 |
| Jarli | and I don't see autogen anywhere | 22:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, oh sorry, in a terminal | 22:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | so guake | 22:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | you want to type "./autogen.sh" | 22:22 |
| Jarli | just assuming I need to be in /Downloads/nanny-2.29.4$ | 22:22 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, uhmmm, no, remember we branched nanny in Programming? | 22:23 |
| Jarli | there we go | 22:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I told you to make a directory called "Programming", | 22:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | yah | 22:23 |
| akiva-thinkpad | :) | 22:23 |
| Jarli | installing gnome-common | 22:24 |
| Jarli | and gnome-doc-utils | 22:25 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, I got that far, ; now I am struggling with gtop ~ | 22:26 |
| Jarli | im at pygtk-2.0 | 22:26 |
| Jarli | just assuming this is python | 22:26 |
| Jarli | which is already installed.. | 22:28 |
| Jarli | akiva-thinkpad, gtop system monitoring? | 22:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | gtk is a graphical interface | 22:28 |
| akiva-thinkpad | python is the programming bindings to that graphical interface | 22:29 |
| akiva-thinkpad | so there is also pyqt | 22:29 |
| akiva-thinkpad | python-qt | 22:29 |
| Jarli | whats the installer for pygtk-2.0 I can't find it | 22:30 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, welcome to dependency hell >:D | 22:30 |
| * akiva-thinkpad suddenly receives a flashback of Opensuse, Yast, and RPMs which rely upon eachother, but won't install | 22:31 | |
| akiva-thinkpad | The horrors! | 22:31 |
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| akiva-thinkpad | okay looks like that is actually fairly simple to solve | 22:34 |
| Jarli | still don't have pygth-2.0 ... | 22:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, in terminal, go "sudo apt-get install synaptic" | 22:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | and then run synaptic | 22:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | "sudo synaptic" | 22:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | that is the old package manager | 22:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | a bit more powerful than the software center | 22:36 |
| akiva-thinkpad | and you can find pygtk-2.0 in there I think | 22:36 |
| Jarli | searching now | 22:37 |
| Jarli | I already have python-gtk2-dev... what the hell else... | 22:38 |
| Jarli | found it | 22:41 |
| Jarli | akiva-thinkpad, https://pypi.python.org/pypi/PyGTK/2.24.0 | 22:44 |
| akiva-thinkpad | yep i got that stuff done :) | 22:44 |
| akiva-thinkpad | now I am trying to figure out the project file | 22:44 |
| Jarli | pygtk-2.0 still "isn't installed" | 22:47 |
| Jarli | I installed 2.24... | 22:47 |
| Jarli | so wtf | 22:47 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, did you search for it in synaptic? | 22:48 |
| Jarli | I didn't see it in there | 22:48 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, it should be libgtk-python | 22:48 |
| akiva-thinkpad | or something along those lines. | 22:48 |
| Jarli | I don't see anything close, all VNC installers | 22:50 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, sec i'll check again | 22:56 |
| akiva-thinkpad | jarli python-gtk2-dev | 22:58 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, also ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-init-scripts=debian | 22:59 |
| akiva-thinkpad | that apparently is developer mode | 22:59 |
| Jarli | ok let me get this installed | 22:59 |
| Jarli | dbus-1 .. one more to go i think | 23:00 |
| Jarli | sorry about that had to troubleshoot my internet | 23:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, no problem | 23:31 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I'm super busy today so :P | 23:31 |
| Jarli | it's night, tell em to go have a coffee :P | 23:32 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, Well anyways; I am told in #gnome, that python based programs do not typically have workflows, which is true in my experience | 23:32 |
| Jarli | so basically it's a pain in the ass to try and revive this app? | 23:33 |
| akiva-thinkpad | so what you may end up doing is just editting the text files, make, and then make install to test. | 23:33 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, I'd see if you could get the developer on irc, and ask him for some advice on workflows | 23:33 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, in short though... I would say yes, and potentially non fulfilling | 23:34 |
| akiva-thinkpad | because this is gtk2 after all | 23:34 |
| akiva-thinkpad | its like upgrading windows 2000 | 23:34 |
| Jarli | I upgraded windows 2000 | 23:34 |
| Jarli | was totally worth it :) | 23:34 |
| Jarli | trouble is just functionality is broken a bit | 23:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | errm, I mean, not upgrading from 200 | 23:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | err | 23:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | nvm :P | 23:35 |
| Jarli | even if it was just to change the screen position of "Add a domain" to bring to front | 23:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, track down the developer. Ask him what his workflow was like. What ide he used, etc. | 23:35 |
| Jarli | idk if you installed and demo'd it to understand what I specifically mean | 23:35 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, Fraid not :P | 23:36 |
| Jarli | any kids? | 23:36 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, I wish I could have been of more help. Nope not yet | 23:36 |
| Jarli | give it a try, you might have an idea of what I mean. | 23:36 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I think one of the best filters though is just to have one desktop in the family living room | 23:36 |
| akiva-thinkpad | and then the kids can only access it there. | 23:36 |
| Jarli | I was browsing the source on launchpad and its all listed there, I just don't know where to begin compiling it | 23:37 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, I think its an easy process. | 23:37 |
| akiva-thinkpad | find the file | 23:37 |
| akiva-thinkpad | edit it. | 23:37 |
| akiva-thinkpad | make, make install | 23:37 |
| akiva-thinkpad | or something along those lines | 23:37 |
| Jarli | "or something" | 23:38 |
| Jarli | :P | 23:38 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, this stuff is just a lot of trial and error | 23:38 |
| Jarli | oh I know | 23:38 |
| akiva-thinkpad | if this was a cmake application | 23:38 |
| akiva-thinkpad | I would have had you going by now :P | 23:38 |
| akiva-thinkpad | turned out to by some python gtk2.0 app though | 23:39 |
| Jarli | It's be great if I could just download the entire source, read over in something like notepadd++ and get a bearing on it | 23:39 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, contact the developer | 23:39 |
| Jarli | I | 23:40 |
| Jarli | I'll see what I can do on that | 23:40 |
| akiva-thinkpad | yep :) | 23:40 |
| Jarli | It's definitely worth trying, he's in Madrid from what I saw on his site | 23:40 |
| Jarli | but the "main" site is dead... | 23:40 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, also remember; you are stepping into the deep end of programming; editting someone elses project with a toolkit you have never used before. | 23:40 |
| Jarli | like just a vacant hole of "Here's Nanny, and no info" | 23:40 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, go to the github page, and find the contributors | 23:41 |
| Jarli | no better way to start | 23:41 |
| akiva-thinkpad | their github pages usually have contact details in it | 23:41 |
| akiva-thinkpad | Jarli, let me know if you need anything else; I do have a ton of work to do :P | 23:41 |
| Jarli | Well looks like their new "main site" is @ openshine.com | 23:44 |
| Jarli | I'll see who I can reach their | 23:44 |
| akiva-thinkpad | gl | 23:44 |
| Jarli | thanks | 23:44 |
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