[00:02] I have copied the header files needed for quazip and it still doesn't work [00:12] At least now it is QuaZipFile what complains === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [03:14] ahayzen, how goes the music app ? [03:14] akiva-thinkpad, it goes good :) [03:14] ahayzen, good to hear :) [03:14] akiva-thinkpad, we're really really close now :) hopefully hehe [03:15] ahayzen, yah my email has been filled up with your merge requests. you guys have been busy [03:15] akiva-thinkpad, yeah and lots offline as well [03:15] ahayzen, anything you are particularly proud of? [03:16] akiva-thinkpad, u'll see hopefully ;) [03:16] ahayzen, heh; you mean I'll have to wait until the phones are released? [03:16] akiva-thinkpad, mainly lots of polish today though and landing a few other bits [03:16] akiva-thinkpad, no wait until i push the code online aha [03:16] Nice. [03:17] Are you going to the ubuntu online summit? [03:17] 14.11 ? [03:17] https://launchpad.net/sprints/uos-1411 ahayzen [03:17] erm [03:17] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/ [03:17] akiva-thinkpad, yeah i will be but thats next month...i don't plan my next day aha [03:18] heh [03:18] this is my first one; I'm pretty excited. [03:18] yeah lots of sessions to get involved in, its good fun :) [03:18] I miss so many of these events because I never know they are going on in the first place. [03:19] * ahayzen tries to think where he hears of most of them [03:19] ahayzen, I actually found it on here http://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuAppDev/ [03:19] yeah usually on AppDev across social media or podcasts i suppose [03:20] * akiva-thinkpad does not do enough social media [03:21] ahayzen, ping me when you make a nice big release of the music app; I want to be the first to test it. [03:21] G+ UbuntuAppDev is usually enough [03:21] oh never knew about that [03:21] akiva-thinkpad, we are hoping to make a click tomorrow so i'll ping it across for u to test :) [03:21] nice [03:22] Can you install click packages on the desktop? [03:22] akiva-thinkpad, erm no...but u can branch and then run from terminal :) [03:23] ahayzen, will have to wait until unity8 makes it to the desktop I take it? [03:23] akiva-thinkpad, yeah we need mir and things [03:23] ahayzen, figured as much [03:24] akiva-thinkpad, you have got these two on G+ https://plus.google.com/communities/111350780270925540549 https://plus.google.com/111697084657487423167/posts [03:25] ahayzen, thanks adding them now [03:26] akiva-thinkpad, and the mailing lists are good to follow as well [03:27] ahayzen, probably [03:27] thanks appreciate it [03:28] mmmm I really dislike g+'s design. so sporatic with things sitting all over the place. [03:30] its too slow on my machine to load lol [03:30] ahayzen, gotta give that typewriter a new ribbon, and update its ram [03:31] my machine is fast...just FF&G+ seem really slow [03:31] ahayzen, I notice that chrome is pretty quick when I start to use it, but I always go back to ff because I find its search to be so much nicer. [03:31] Chrome bugs me for some reason [03:32] ahayzen, duckduckgo is doing interesting stuff; apparently they embedded support for askubuntu in it [03:32] akiva-thinkpad, i have duckduckgo as my homepage these days been trialling it instead of google, its been quite interesting [03:33] ahayzen, is it good enough to use yet? [03:33] ahayzen, they seem to chime the open source bell a bit more than Google, which is why I am considering switching. [03:33] akiva-thinkpad, like probably 80-90% of the time...sometimes you just have to be a little more specific in your search [03:34] interesting [03:34] akiva-thinkpad, and other times it is far better than google with like the integrated stackoverflow answers [03:34] VERY interesting [03:35] ahayzen, one thing that really bothers me about googles search algorythm, is when I search for the ubuntu help pages [03:35] it always shows 0.1 version [03:35] and I have to navigate around to find 14.10 [03:35] hah yeah and you sometimes get the qt4.8 before 5.3 [03:35] I know [03:35] that bugs me so much! [04:22] akiva-thinkpad: I don't have at all experience with keypresses, but there's already some keypress code in file manager - I think it should be pretty easy to take as an example and adapt to that. [04:23] ajalkane, all it says is "keypress"! [04:23] :P [04:23] true that [04:23] ajalkane, going to the ubuntu online summit? [04:23] https://launchpad.net/sprints/uos-1411 [04:23] :) [04:27] akiva-thinkpad: that one might be a bit difficult what with the work intervening :). Will see, would be nice though [04:28] gtg [04:28] later [04:28] o/ [04:28] But going to sleep now too, cya tomorrow === wendar_ is now known as wendar [09:35] Hi === ubot5` is now known as ubot5 [12:24] balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-docviewer-app/add-plugin/+merge/237545 [12:27] dholbach, ^ [12:27] dholbach, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-docviewer-app-utopic-amd64-ci/43/console [12:31] ahayzen: dpm vthompson we're in istanbul for the music app design update session... === renato is now known as Guest9838 [12:49] dpm, mzanetti ok, copy and paste an image from internet to a note works well \o/ [12:49] (I love when we find feature we didn't know to have) [12:50] \o/ === matiasb1 is now known as matiasb === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon-lunch [13:20] mzanetti: when you get time could you push that changes ? [13:20] mihir: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8606830/ [13:21] mzanetti: thanks i'll try and update you. [13:35] jdstrand, ping [13:35] ahayzen: hey [13:35] jdstrand, hey so last confinement thing... we moved to rtm and we're getting this.. [13:35] jdstrand, Oct 20 04:41:08 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [17638.562210] type=1400 audit(1413776468.504:177): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="com.ubuntu.music_music_1.3.672" name="/home/phablet/.cache/QML/Apps/" pid=28161 comm="qmlscene" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=32011 [13:36] jdstrand, i assume this is todo with application caching? but i don't see the same denial for other apps? [13:36] ahayzen: this is bug #1381620 [13:36] bug 1381620 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "apparmor read denial on ~/.cache/QML/Apps/" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1381620 [13:36] jdstrand, so is it safe to ignore for now? [13:36] ahayzen: I'm told it is just noise and doesn't affect anything [13:37] jdstrand, awesome so we can probably land our confinement branch :) === rmescandon-lunch is now known as rmescandon [14:11] Are other mods of /r/UbuntuAppDev here? [14:22] ajalkane, swordfish http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ === Guest9838 is now known as renatu [15:05] dpm: why suddenly pot file is being updated by itself ? [15:05] and we have to do revert all time and that's annoying :( [15:06] mihir, it's updated on every build. You can either revert as you are doing, or remove the ALL keyword in the rule that builds the template in po/CMakeLists.txt [15:06] dpm: okay gotcha. [15:30] ahayzen: nice! :) [15:34] mihir, /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/ubuntuuitoolkit/_custom_proxy_objects/pickers.py [15:34] mihir, then the test is /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/ubuntuuitoolkit/tests/custom_proxy_objects/test_date_picker.py [15:43] fginther: calendar doesn't autobuild at http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/calendar-app-click/ - why? [16:00] balloons: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/calendar-app-click/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/out/com.ubuntu.calendar_0.4.515_all.click [16:06] beuno on the individual app stats pages, we get ~2 weeks of graph. Is there a view where I can see further back, or the raw data? [16:16] nik90: you around ? === gatox is now known as gatox2 === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon-afk [17:29] Hi [17:32] hey rpadovani, ajalkane is implementing the bottom edge for file manager and has some questions. I thought as you implemented it for Reminders not too long ago, you might be able to give him a hand. Are you with the Telegram guys now? === renato is now known as Guest20799 [17:53] dpm, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-docviewer-app/pep8-fixes/+merge/239114 [17:58] dpm, lp:~dholbach/ubuntu-docviewer-app/missing-import [18:21] popey, I don't think so. File a bug? [18:21] ok [18:25] ahayzen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8618033/ [18:36] mihir, how goes it? [18:37] balloons: can you push out a new clock to the store? [18:38] rev 158 [18:42] balloons: i guess we had problem of docking picker and getting values back to the caller object. [18:43] balloons: that was the reason we used this way. [18:48] nik90, ack will do [18:48] thnx [18:48] * nik90 goes back to dinner [18:48] mihir, can you file a bug / show some demo code that does this? [18:53] nik90, uploaded.. popey review? [18:57] balloons: nik90 approved === rmescandon-afk is now known as rmescandon [19:08] balloons: sure , but still let me figure out . before filing bug === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [19:45] zsombi: t1mp is there any way i can dock DateTime control as PickerPanel.openDatePicker does ? [19:51] mihir: DateTime control? [19:53] zsombi: i meant DateTime Picker [19:54] mihir: PickerPanel opens the DatePicker... I Don't get your question... [19:54] zsombi: yes it does, but we're unable to get the object in Autopilot. [19:55] mihir: if you want to show a time picker, then you need to set the mode for the openDatePicker, check teh docs [19:55] zsombi: yup , it works well as expected , the only thing we are not able to get it objectName in Autopilots, is there anyway we can achieve this ? [19:56] mihir: I don't think so... [19:58] zsombi: can i file bug for this , or this is not possible ? [19:59] mihir: I don't think we can do anything about that AP is not finding an object somewhere... [19:59] mihir: perhaps you should check with someone from AP [20:03] zsombi: hmm okay , will do that. thank you. [20:04] balloons: ^^ for your reference. [20:04] mihir: so, do I understand you that the problem is that AP is not finding the DatePicker opened by the PickerPanel? [20:05] mihir: (just for my records :) [20:09] zsombi, mihir is asking how to assign an objectname in this case [20:11] balloons: mihir: AFAIK PickerPanel.openDatePicker() returns the object opened...(unfortunately not documented, so that's a bug!) , which is either the panel or the popover... and AFAIK you can look for an object based on any property, not just objectName, so that might help [20:12] zsombi, very true, indeed you could use a parent object and select the child based upon the property [20:12] balloons: +1 ;) [20:13] zsombi, but of course if he is using openDatePicker, the autopilot helper for the toolkit won't work [20:13] balloons: uhh... [20:13] I think I'll have a play with him locally and see if there's some tweaks we can do === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [20:41] balloons: sadly , AttributeError: 'MainViewTestCase' object has no attribute 'print_tree' [20:42] balloons: this is the testcase , http://paste.ubuntu.com/8619373/ === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [21:19] Hey akiva-thinkpad [21:21] Jarli, heya [21:21] hows it going? [21:21] Its going, just got everything setup [21:21] Should I dl the installer for that or try and get the src instead? [21:22] and thanks again [21:22] akiva-thinkpad: I've done some improvements to your file manager header branch [21:22] Jarli, did you have bazar [21:22] ajalkane, oh great! [21:22] I'll do a merge request to your branch [21:22] i worked on it a bit this morning in bed [21:22] ajalkane, yes please do that [21:22] ajalkane, what did you do by the way? [21:22] let me find bazar [21:23] I considered removing the path history, but seeing how much you must have worked on it I tried another approach. I changed ">" into "/" and i think now it's not confusing [21:23] Bazaar Explorer? [21:23] I implimented a up, down, backwards, and forwards button [21:23] ajalkane, ah perfect. [21:23] many little things and fixes, mainly the Places pullover [21:23] Jarli, yes [21:23] oh great [21:23] ajalkane, here lets exchange screenshots [21:24] should I also get Bazaar Version Control? [21:24] The places pullover is still buggy, it doesn't respect the theme. But I will need to ask around here if someone knows what's the matter with it [21:24] Jarli, erm, that should come with bazar explorer [21:24] Jarli, get guake as well [21:24] and shutter [21:24] ajalkane, thats cool [21:24] I've already dl'd the other list you gave me, those included [21:25] is there anyway to increase the font size in hex chat? [21:25] It appears the designers won't have a chance to look at this until probably next week, so we have time to be in the sandbox [21:25] Jarli, don't know. I would think so [21:25] Jarli, yes [21:25] press left alt to bring up the hud [21:25] and type "Preferences" [21:25] its should be the first thing [21:26] * akiva-thinkpad changes mine to ubuntu mono [21:26] :) [21:26] there we go, now I don't need my glasses [21:26] Jarli, heh [21:27] okay open up guake [21:27] :-) [21:27] ok [21:27] F12 to use it I'm assuming [21:27] ajalkane, I definitely want your feedback on something [21:27] Jarli, yes [21:28] Jarli, the only other time you use f12 is when you are inspecting the source code of firefox :P [21:28] damn accidentally tried merging into trunk [21:28] ajalkane, lol [21:28] OK, so really noob question, how can I dl the source code to begin looking at it, and get it going [21:28] Jarli, thats what were gonna do [21:28] :) [21:29] Jarli, in guake btw, go to the settings first, and change the opacity to be darker [21:29] Thats what I usually do [21:29] anyways [21:29] I was reading the source at work on the site there, and there are no mark-ups at all [21:29] Well, hopefully it's linked to correct branch [21:29] now [21:30] ajalkane, :DDDDD [21:30] Jarli, Jarli, okay in guake go type "cd ~" ; as that means go home [21:30] ~ = home [21:30] yep [21:30] now you are probably already in home but whatevs [21:30] Jarli, type "mkdir Programming" [21:30] mkdir Programming [21:30] haha [21:30] thats, "Make a directory called Programming" [21:30] wrong window [21:31] :P [21:31] then cd into Programming [21:31] done, ok im in programming [21:31] yep [21:31] Jarli, okay now we will use bazar [21:31] type "bzr branch lp:nanny" [21:31] Branch means... fork, sort of [21:32] lp: means launchpad [21:32] yep [21:32] nanny is the name of the project page [21:32] its dling [21:32] 368 revisions.... [21:33] Jarli, that just means 368 changes or times its been committed. [21:33] oh good, cause it says Branched, I assumed that there we just that many versions floating out thtere [21:33] Jarli, okay open the dash, and find geany [21:34] k thats running [21:35] alright now I have to find the project page :P I don't develop python projects that often [21:35] * akiva-thinkpad starts poking around [21:35] feel free to poke around too [21:36] https://launchpad.net/nanny [21:40] Jarli, ah here it is; download glade [21:40] this is the gtk3 sdk [21:40] in guake or in term? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [21:40] jarli whereever. Get it from the software center [21:41] terminal [21:41] much easier [21:41] suit yourself [21:41] can guake download and install like terminal, or is it just a programming editor? [21:42] I guess I just answered my own question since I made a folder [21:42] eh [21:42] guake is a terminal [21:42] yes :P [21:42] yah :-) [21:43] anyways Glade is downloaded [21:45] sorry was in the washroom [21:45] no problem [21:45] just don't let it happen again :-! [21:45] :-P [21:46] Jarli, mmmm, this does not appear to be a glade project [21:47] :O bah ! [21:47] * akiva-thinkpad wants to figure this out... [21:47] * uninstalls glade [21:48] can I help some how [21:48] ? [21:48] akiva-thinkpad: I still need to work on the "Unlock full access", so I'll do something about that today later or most likely tomorrow. After that I think I'm very happy with the changes, and we'll see what others think [21:48] ajalkane, okay before you go, let me get your opinion on something [21:51] ajalkane, http://i.imgur.com/7S82DZO.png [21:51] okay so I was playing around with it today. I didnt really like the button on the top right to be a "Backwards" in history button; I found it pretty unintuitive [21:52] so i was thinking of moving the navigation buttons down into the small header at the bottom. [21:53] so what they represent, is backwards and forwards in history, like nautilus has, [21:53] I like that idea akiva-thinkpad, but also you could add the navigation pane onto the left of the image [21:53] and "Up" and "Down" for going in the parents [21:54] left of which image? [21:54] http://i.imgur.com/7S82DZO.png [21:55] Jarli, there is no left --- :P [21:55] add a left column [21:55] this is for a phone [21:55] im saying add it :P [21:55] so there won't be space. [21:55] ah [21:55] well [21:55] ^_^ [21:55] and there actually already is a pane there when the manager expands [21:56] Jarli, okay back to your project [21:57] akiva-thinkpad: I don't think that goes well with Ubuntu Touch design language and other core apps. Try out my branch, I think navigation is now a breeze. Single click on the current folder and up you go [21:57] Jarli, anyways, sorry; not terribly familiar with building the project files for gnome applications, so this is a learning experience myself. [21:57] But I gotta go now, will be back later in evening [21:57] ajalkane, okay. Later [21:57] thanks for the work [21:57] sorry last comment on yours, you could do something like a game-pad thumb controller at the top near the 3 - - - [21:57] :) [21:58] Jarli, heh; That would be tough [21:58] adjust it to the left of the file or menu item there to the top right, left 1 use something like <^> [21:58] and a down one as well as needed [21:58] but it would be simple, all of the navigation in one pane [21:58] (end-user) wise [21:59] Jarli, I think I might copy what nautilus does.... This will be a hard sell [21:59] I could add a pane on top as well. [21:59] Maybe I'll do that. [21:59] akiva-thinkpad, what specifically does nautilus do? [22:00] Jarli, Oh it just has a backwards and forwards button side by side. [22:00] Jarli, you gave me an idea though. [22:00] ah [22:01] what android are you developing for? [22:01] Jarli, not android; ubuntu touch [22:01] ah [22:02] Jarli, have you seen it yet? [22:02] its slated for a release this december [22:02] I've heard about it, but haven't looked it up [22:02] isn't it being privately launched? [22:02] Jarli, its amazing. Much nicer than android. [22:03] Jarli, its being developed in open source. [22:03] so [22:03] nope [22:03] Jarli, like you can fork an image right now if you wanted to. [22:03] "Users can surface their content naturally and industry can customise endlessly" what the hell is wrong with this description... [22:04] surface.... surface.... not Surf [22:04] someone smack someone [22:04] heh [22:07] Ok anyways, did I thoroughly distract you? [22:07] Jarli, just reading through this [22:07] Jarli, You may want to download the ubuntu sdk [22:07] already did [22:07] go search for it in google, because there is a custom ppa you should get [22:08] * akiva-thinkpad is just reading through this... [22:10] okay I think I'm getting close :P [22:15] bah so many things to do [22:16] do I open the client or what? [22:16] Jarli, go into nanny, and try to run ./autogen.sh [22:16] using ubuntu-sdk [22:16] I believe this will create a makefile that you can use to open up a project [22:16] but I am running into dependency issues because this application is quite old. [22:17] (I got it running on qimo4kids) no additional items required [22:17] Jarli, did you get the project files though ? [22:17] I am speaking about being able to edit the source code. [22:17] Just did a direct install, I had to add a repo though [22:17] Running the program is different. [22:20] how am I supposed to run ./autogen.sh? [22:20] from the directory where I dl's the source? [22:20] Jarli, "./" and "sh" are basically commands that say "Execute this file" [22:20] sorry (still noobed) here [22:21] Jarli, no problem :) [22:22] I still don't know where I'm supposed to be running this from [22:22] and I don't see autogen anywhere [22:22] Jarli, oh sorry, in a terminal [22:22] so guake [22:22] you want to type "./autogen.sh" [22:22] just assuming I need to be in /Downloads/nanny-2.29.4$ [22:23] Jarli, uhmmm, no, remember we branched nanny in Programming? [22:23] there we go [22:23] I told you to make a directory called "Programming", [22:23] yah [22:23] :) [22:24] installing gnome-common [22:25] and gnome-doc-utils [22:26] Jarli, I got that far, ; now I am struggling with gtop ~ [22:26] im at pygtk-2.0 [22:26] just assuming this is python [22:28] which is already installed.. [22:28] akiva-thinkpad, gtop system monitoring? [22:28] gtk is a graphical interface [22:29] python is the programming bindings to that graphical interface [22:29] so there is also pyqt [22:29] python-qt [22:30] whats the installer for pygtk-2.0 I can't find it [22:30] Jarli, welcome to dependency hell >:D [22:31] * akiva-thinkpad suddenly receives a flashback of Opensuse, Yast, and RPMs which rely upon eachother, but won't install [22:31] The horrors! === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [22:34] okay looks like that is actually fairly simple to solve [22:35] still don't have pygth-2.0 ... [22:35] Jarli, in terminal, go "sudo apt-get install synaptic" [22:35] and then run synaptic [22:35] "sudo synaptic" [22:35] that is the old package manager [22:36] a bit more powerful than the software center [22:36] and you can find pygtk-2.0 in there I think [22:37] searching now [22:38] I already have python-gtk2-dev... what the hell else... [22:41] found it [22:44] akiva-thinkpad, https://pypi.python.org/pypi/PyGTK/2.24.0 [22:44] yep i got that stuff done :) [22:44] now I am trying to figure out the project file [22:47] pygtk-2.0 still "isn't installed" [22:47] I installed 2.24... [22:47] so wtf [22:48] Jarli, did you search for it in synaptic? [22:48] I didn't see it in there [22:48] Jarli, it should be libgtk-python [22:48] or something along those lines. [22:50] I don't see anything close, all VNC installers [22:56] Jarli, sec i'll check again [22:58] jarli python-gtk2-dev [22:59] Jarli, also ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-init-scripts=debian [22:59] that apparently is developer mode [22:59] ok let me get this installed [23:00] dbus-1 .. one more to go i think [23:31] sorry about that had to troubleshoot my internet [23:31] Jarli, no problem [23:31] I'm super busy today so :P [23:32] it's night, tell em to go have a coffee :P [23:32] Jarli, Well anyways; I am told in #gnome, that python based programs do not typically have workflows, which is true in my experience [23:33] so basically it's a pain in the ass to try and revive this app? [23:33] so what you may end up doing is just editting the text files, make, and then make install to test. [23:33] Jarli, I'd see if you could get the developer on irc, and ask him for some advice on workflows [23:34] Jarli, in short though... I would say yes, and potentially non fulfilling [23:34] because this is gtk2 after all [23:34] its like upgrading windows 2000 [23:34] I upgraded windows 2000 [23:34] was totally worth it :) [23:35] trouble is just functionality is broken a bit [23:35] errm, I mean, not upgrading from 200 [23:35] err [23:35] nvm :P [23:35] even if it was just to change the screen position of "Add a domain" to bring to front [23:35] Jarli, track down the developer. Ask him what his workflow was like. What ide he used, etc. [23:35] idk if you installed and demo'd it to understand what I specifically mean [23:36] Jarli, Fraid not :P [23:36] any kids? [23:36] Jarli, I wish I could have been of more help. Nope not yet [23:36] give it a try, you might have an idea of what I mean. [23:36] I think one of the best filters though is just to have one desktop in the family living room [23:36] and then the kids can only access it there. [23:37] I was browsing the source on launchpad and its all listed there, I just don't know where to begin compiling it [23:37] Jarli, I think its an easy process. [23:37] find the file [23:37] edit it. [23:37] make, make install [23:37] or something along those lines [23:38] "or something" [23:38] :P [23:38] Jarli, this stuff is just a lot of trial and error [23:38] oh I know [23:38] if this was a cmake application [23:38] I would have had you going by now :P [23:39] turned out to by some python gtk2.0 app though [23:39] It's be great if I could just download the entire source, read over in something like notepadd++ and get a bearing on it [23:39] Jarli, contact the developer [23:40] I [23:40] I'll see what I can do on that [23:40] yep :) [23:40] It's definitely worth trying, he's in Madrid from what I saw on his site [23:40] but the "main" site is dead... [23:40] Jarli, also remember; you are stepping into the deep end of programming; editting someone elses project with a toolkit you have never used before. [23:40] like just a vacant hole of "Here's Nanny, and no info" [23:41] Jarli, go to the github page, and find the contributors [23:41] no better way to start [23:41] their github pages usually have contact details in it [23:41] Jarli, let me know if you need anything else; I do have a ton of work to do :P [23:44] Well looks like their new "main site" is @ openshine.com [23:44] I'll see who I can reach their [23:44] gl [23:44] thanks