[02:04] <imgbot> [03:04] <imgbot> [03:44] <imgbot> [03:44] <imgbot> [04:14] <imgbot> [04:14] <imgbot> [13:02] <sil2100> o/
[13:04] <ogra_> sil2100, rtm 002 says it is publixhed on the dashboard
[13:04] <ogra_> seems the bot disagrees
[13:04] <sil2100> ogra_: it says it couldn't publish
[13:04] <ogra_> sil2100, why did the bot not say that
[13:04] <ricmm> lol
[13:04] <sil2100> ogra_: that the merges are unapproved :)
[13:04] <ogra_> bah
[13:04] <ogra_> :P
[13:04] <sil2100> It's SLOW!
[13:05]  * sil2100 slaps queuebot 
[13:05] <ogra_> snailbot !!!!
[13:05] <sil2100> Anyway, ricmm you usually land things ubuntu-rtm specific things, right?
[13:06] <rsalveti> silo 2 finally landed (rtm)
[13:06] <sil2100> ricmm: did you approve the merge?
[13:06] <sil2100> Ah, thank!
[13:07] <sil2100> *thanks
[13:07]  * sil2100 not used to using this keyboard
[13:08] <ricmm> sil2100: bought a new laptop? what'd u get
[13:09] <sil2100> ricmm: no no, the old one still, but I use an external keyboard all the time at home
[13:09] <ricmm> alright
[13:11] <sil2100> ricmm: so, I prepared a sync silo for this to utopic so that we don't lose track of what needs to land in utopic/vivid
[13:12] <ricmm> sil2100: great, not sure how that works on the distro transitions, so I'll leave it up to you ;)
[13:12] <sil2100> ricmm: we're still working on that, slangasek is also on it ;)
[13:13] <pete-woods> would appreciate someone filling in the right sync: bit for me :)
[13:17] <sil2100> pete-woods: sure :)
[13:19] <pete-woods> thanks!
[13:21] <pete-woods> sil2100: thanks!
[13:33] <sil2100> ogra_: yay, saving space with autopilot \o/ Not much though I guess?
[13:50] <sil2100> davmor2: do you have the list of issues that you guys found regarding the welcome wizard and edges intro?
[13:50] <sil2100> e.g. the first impression buglist we talked about yesterday?
[14:01] <ogra_> sil2100, i think it will be a lot thanks to also dropping a lot of python deps ...
[14:01] <sil2100> ogra_: let's see when that happens then - not expecting much, but if it's more then I prefer being positively surprised
[14:01] <ogra_> but i need to make sure the apport stuff still works, so it might get delayed a little ... i need to test that first
[14:10] <ogra_> err
[14:10] <ogra_> s/apport/apparmor/
[14:10] <sil2100> hm?
[14:10] <sil2100> Ah, didn't even notice that
[14:10] <sil2100> ;)
[14:10] <ogra_> (to many things starting with app nowadays :P )
[14:11] <kenvandine> and apt
[14:11] <ogra_> heh
[14:11] <ogra_> appt
[14:11] <kenvandine> and ap for autopilot... :-D
[14:11] <slangasek> appologies for the namespace
[14:11] <sil2100> APPologies ;p
[14:11] <kenvandine> haha
[14:11] <ogra_> lol
[14:14] <sil2100> pete-woods: ok, looking into the silo, just need to double-check if QA won't like to sign it off
[14:14] <sil2100> (as you know, we're playing safeish recently)
[14:14] <pete-woods> sil2100: no problem!
[14:15] <sil2100> brendand, davmor2, elopio: hey, anyone of you guys looking on IRC?
[14:15] <pete-woods> sil2100: we did already have it checked by a QA guy (can't remember the name), but that was on utopic, I think
[14:16] <sil2100> pete-woods: since basically it *should* be taken as an isolated bugfix, but bigger changes for components that are being used by multiple components I prefer to double-confirm
[14:16] <pete-woods> that's cool. I really don't want to break such a visible thing!
[14:19] <brendand> pete-woods, i already talked to AlbertA yesterday and i didn't get a clarification on the justification for landing it
[14:19] <AlbertA> kgunn: ^
[14:20] <pete-woods> brendand: it makes unity8 freeze for up to 60 seconds sometimes. that's pretty bad!
[14:20] <bdmurray> I'd like to upoad apport to ubuntu-rtm/14.00 so that bug 1381658 will be fixed in it.
[14:21] <brendand> pete-woods, not doubting that. can you talk to olli and get it tagged? https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1378311
[14:21] <brendand> pete-woods, ask him to ping me when it's done
[14:22] <kgunn> brendand: am i good enough to tag ?
[14:22] <kgunn> ;0
[14:22] <kgunn> oops :)
[14:22] <brendand> kgunn, i still need to hear from olli
[14:22] <pete-woods> brendand: er. that seems like a totally different bug? (have I put the wrong bug # in?)
[14:23] <brendand> pete-woods, ?? what silo are we talking about?
[14:23] <brendand> pete-woods, i only have 17 here with your name
[14:23] <brendand> pete-woods, or is it 7?
[14:24] <pete-woods> brendand: silo 14 rtm
[14:24] <brendand> pete-woods, okay - i'm really sorry. that isn't in our queue yet
[14:24] <pete-woods> brendand: no worries!
[14:25] <pete-woods> I hadn't marked is as requiring QA. but that was being questioned, I think
[14:25] <pete-woods> I'm obviously happy to have it tested by you guys. but it's been tested by a few other people in addition to me already
[14:27] <brendand> pete-woods, please do
[14:27]  * pete-woods marking
[14:28] <pete-woods> done
[15:35] <bdmurray> sil2100: what shall I do about apport and bug 1381658?
[15:36] <sil2100> bdmurray: hey! So, I still need to get a confirmation from the product team, since this bug by itself is not noted as critical and didn't end up on olli_'s list
[15:37] <bdmurray> sil2100: okay, thanks for the update
[15:47] <ogra_> sil2100, so dbus-property-service and ubuntu-touch-meta were just uploaded into utopic to remove AP ... once rmadison is happy i'll build a utopic image to see how well it still copes
[15:49] <sil2100> ogra_: hah, utopic playground \o/
[15:49] <ogra_> yeah :)
[15:51] <ogra_> plars, ^^^FYI
[15:52] <ogra_> i think we should wait for seeing at least a few tests running on that image (once it exists) to see that smoke tests still work as expected)
[15:53] <plars> ogra_: what's that for?
[15:53] <ogra_> plars, i dropped autopilot (all traces of it) from the rootfs
[15:54] <ogra_> like we discussed yesterday
[15:57] <bdmurray> asac / sil2100: I've updated the bug.
[16:03] <sil2100> bdmurray: thanks!
[16:03] <plars> ogra_: awesome
[16:04] <ogra_> sil2100, do you do a meeting ? (if so, where)
[16:05] <sil2100> ogra_: no, I don't have any
[16:05] <ogra_> i mean the one that just made my phone play harps ;)
[16:05] <ogra_> (landing)
[16:12] <robru> sil2100: ogra_ : landing meetings are off this week, right?
[16:13] <ogra_> robru, sil2100 wanted to keep the "evening" one for briefing you
[16:14] <robru> oh, well is it happening now? should I join a hangout?
[16:14] <kenvandine> brendand, note when testing ubuntu-rtm/landing-019, setting it to "Not at all" maybe trigger indicator-location to crash, which is unrelated to this landing, bug 1382449
[16:21] <sil2100> robru, ogra_: so we're schedule a new meeting for this week
[16:21] <sil2100> robru, ogra_: this will probably be later on in our TZ here
[16:21] <robru> sil2100: it better not be any earlier than the other one ;-)
[16:21] <sil2100> robru: ;)
[16:29] <sil2100> robru: anyway, we'll inform you and everyone through the calendar
[16:29] <sil2100> For now, lunch time
[17:39] <sil2100> robru: when do you usually go off for lunch?
[17:44] <imgbot> [17:49] <ogra_> ^^^build without autopilot ^^
[17:50] <sil2100> \o/
[17:50]  * sil2100 can't wait to see the size difference
[17:53] <robru> sil2100: Oh, I don't have a usual lunch time, just whenever it's convenient
[17:53] <sil2100> robru: ok, since I'm trying to find the perfect timing
[17:54] <robru> Was thinking about it now
[17:54] <sil2100> I was thinking of doing it at 17:30 of our time, just need to nicely convert it to your TZ
[17:55] <robru> sil2100: it's 11am now, will take lunch a bit early today I think
[17:55] <sil2100> We'll start off tomorrow I guess
[17:55] <robru> sil2100: tomorrow's good. Today that conflicts at that time
[17:56] <sil2100> robru: what was your TZ again? ;)
[17:56] <robru> Brb
[17:56] <robru> sil2100: pacific /Vancouver
[18:11] <sil2100> kgunn: ping
[18:11] <kgunn> sil2100: yo
[18:11] <sil2100> kgunn: so, ricmm was looking for you it seems
[18:12] <kgunn> ricmm: what's up?
[18:12] <sil2100> kgunn: he mentioned that only the DesktopFileReader is the problem here I think
[18:13] <sil2100> But I guess he wanted to meet up with you personally to discuss
[18:13] <kgunn> sil2100: prolly best if ricmm speaks with dandrander about it, i was going off his updates
[18:15] <ogra_> kgunn, hmm, so you pinged me about rtm 017 before .... that doesnt look like it is related to the bug you pointed at
[18:15] <ogra_> (sim unlock dialog iirc)
[18:19] <ricmm> kgunn: just trying to understand the bug, daniel is saying on thing in the bug but the email thread says another
[18:20] <ricmm> pretty sure its related solely to the desktop file changes, but would like to confirm
[18:21] <tedg> trainguards, Can I get a silo for line 80 please?
[18:22] <Mirv> sure ted
[18:22] <tedg> Thanks Mirv!
[18:22] <kgunn> ricmm: you talking about my email thread wrt unapproved MP ? ...those are 2 seperate issues...1 ) potential issue is it's related the bug...2) email thread was more about the mystery of how it got merged
[18:22] <kgunn> ricmm: i'm perfectly happy if it's unrelated to the bug...
[18:23] <kgunn> but even then, there'd be a mystery of how it landed...but seems that's somewhat understood
[18:23] <ricmm> I'm not sure how it landed, at the time the process seemed ok
[18:23] <ricmm> but it landed during the 0.8.0 retries mess
[18:23] <ricmm> so, theres a chance that some things got out of sync
[18:23] <ricmm> and some got dropped
[18:23] <ricmm> kgunn: I mean it went through testing, aprpoving, and the whole story, afaik
[18:23] <kgunn> ricmm: right, actually unrelated to mir0.8 mess...
[18:24] <kgunn> theory is it's related to branching qtmir/rtm
[18:24] <ricmm> right
[18:24] <sil2100> tedg, Mirv: ok confirmed as good to go
[18:24] <sil2100> Mirv: you assigning that? :)
[18:24] <kgunn> ricmm: right...seems related to having qtmir(trunk) in there...but at the same time we created qtmir/rtm
[18:24] <ricmm> kgunn: however that landing did happen during the 0.8.0 stuff, same went for the qtmir/rtm branch
[18:24] <ricmm> kgunn: I do remember that Mirv had to manually sync some branches
[18:25] <kgunn> ricmm: now at the " bug" itself...i'm saying, if it is related, we should not revert your change, but rather uitk AP should be updated
[18:25] <Mirv> sil2100: yes, as soon as googledocs co-operates with me
[18:25] <Mirv> (now it did) tedg: rtm-025
[18:25] <ricmm> kgunn: sure, just want to understand, talking with daniel about it but not sure if he has clear info
[18:25] <ricmm> so maybe will just go repro
[18:26] <balloons> davmor2, ping
[18:26] <davmor2> balloons: slap
[18:27] <balloons> davmor2, has your wifi ever refused to connect after changing the keyboard language?
[18:28] <davmor2> balloons: what did you change it to and would it of effected any of the characters in the password?
[18:29] <davmor2> balloons: other than that no but I tend to mostly change to French
[18:29] <balloons> davmor2, spanish and it was already set. going to try and reproduce.. thanks ;-)
[18:39] <sil2100> kgunn, ricmm: so in the end it seems only the desktopFileReader was at fault here
[18:40] <sil2100> So only the confusion of the landing remains
[18:57] <ogra_> sil2100, FYI http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20141021.1.changes
[18:57] <ogra_> sadly the size changes arent visible much because the langpacks grew so much
[18:57] <sil2100> More then I expected
[18:58] <robru> ogra_: what is the actual size change?
[18:58] <ogra_> robru, it grew due to the langpack updates
[18:58] <sil2100> ;p
[18:59] <ogra_> robru, i dont think it will be visible in utopic ... but rtm will show it
[18:59] <robru> stupid langpacks! everybody should just learn english!
[18:59] <ogra_> lol
[18:59] <ogra_> tell the spaniards
[19:00] <ogra_> plars, can you tell ricmm how long UITK tests usually take ?
[19:00] <ogra_> (over the thumb)
[19:01] <sil2100> robru: I just made a direct commit to cu2d, HORRIBLE ME!
[19:01] <robru> sil2100: you're fired
[19:01] <sil2100> robru: :<
[19:02] <sil2100> robru: anyway, a no-brainer that I didn't want to push through CI without any reason - just added vivid to the series list
[19:02] <robru> sil2100: yeah, so the thing is, we hard-code series names in too many places. like eg in the sync code it hardcodes utopic<->14.09. We need to stop doing that.
[19:03] <ogra_> sil2100, we'll make davmor2 blame you all evening if it breaks
[19:03] <sil2100> robru: well, I didn't change that for now and didn't want to, as we do not switch to it by default for now
[19:03] <sil2100> I just added it to the list, nothing more
[19:03] <sil2100> There are too many questions unanswered to switch to vivid... plus, we can't release anything to vivid right now anyway
[19:03] <robru> sil2100: yeah I know, that's fine in that spot, but generally we should stop hard-coding series names
[19:03] <sil2100> It's still closed
[19:04] <plars> ogra_: ricmm: maybe 30 minutes when it works? it's had problems lately though
[19:04] <ogra_> thats what he is looking at ;)
[19:04] <sil2100> robru: true, but ubuntu-rtm is a big hack in overall, and it was supposed to only work with utopic - if the plans change, then well ;)
[19:04] <robru> sil2100: when vivid really opens, then we should rip out all rtm sync code ;-)
[19:04] <sil2100> We'll change the approach to a more rolling one, where it would just somehow hook up to the currently active series
[19:06] <sil2100> robru: hah, we could do that for sure - assuming that ubuntu-rtm would stay then as only something that we cherry-pick stable fixes to of course
[19:06] <sil2100> The direction of ubuntu-rtm now is also under questioning I think
[19:08] <ricmm> elopio: hi, trying to understand something about AP tests
[19:08] <ricmm> elopio: we launch with UAL, but tear down with a simple SIGKILL ?
[19:10]  * brendand used ubuntu-app-stop
[19:10] <ricmm> brendand: you? or autopilot
[19:10] <ricmm> I see things like 19:10:30.108 INFO _launcher:567 - Killing process 10917
[19:11] <ricmm> ahh yes
[19:11] <ricmm> os.killpg(pid, sig)
[19:11] <ricmm> useless
[19:12] <brendand> ricmm, talk to veebers
[19:12] <veebers> ricmm: applications using UAL should be using UpstartApplicationLauncher or ClickApplicationLauncher which use UbuntuAppLaunch.stop_application(app_id)
[19:12] <veebers> ricmm: where are you seeing these logs?
[19:13] <ricmm> UITK tests that seem to be using application/_launch.py
[19:14] <veebers> ricmm: how are the tests launching the application? Where are the tests that you're looking at>
[19:14] <ricmm> ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot
[19:14] <ricmm> I guess they are actually launching them manually?
[19:14] <ricmm> instead of UAL
[19:14] <veebers> ricmm: perhaps? I'm not sure how they are launched, taking a quick look noe
[19:14] <veebers> now*
[19:15] <ricmm> yea looks like it
[19:15] <veebers> ricmm: which test id are you looking at (to make it easy to check)
[19:15] <ricmm> sounds broken to me considering all the implications of the very coupled dance of QtMir / UAL
[19:15] <ricmm> uh lemme check
[19:15] <ricmm> ubuntuuitoolkit.tests.test_fixture_setup.LaunchFakeApplicationTestCase.test_launch_fake_application_with_qmlscene
[19:15] <ricmm> all of them seem to do the same, so thats just a random one
[19:15] <veebers> ricmm: thanks, taking a look now to see what it's doing
[19:15] <veebers> ack
[19:17] <sil2100> robru: will you have time tomorrow at 5:00 pm of our time?
[19:18] <veebers> ricmm: yeah looks like it using launch_test_application not launch_click_package or launch_upstart_application
[19:20] <ricmm> ChickenCutlass: http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=38.90856934&lon=-77.01797485&zoom=8&pin=Washington%2c%20DC&rad=1&wxsn=0&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=0&hur=0
[19:21] <ricmm> veebers: ok, yea some seem to be launching with upstart, others manually
[19:21] <ricmm> I'll take it up with the team to better understand / fix
[19:21] <veebers> ricmm: aye, that's what it looks like to me
[19:21] <ricmm> veebers: thanks for the help
[19:22] <veebers> ricmm: nw, let me know if there is anything else I can help with
[19:25] <robru> sil2100: yeah 5PM should work
[19:26] <sil2100> Crap, there's a different meeting on that time
[19:27] <sergiusens> plars: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu&q=goget-ubuntu-touch
[19:27] <ToyKeeper> kenvandine: About silo rtm-019 (ubuntu-system-settings, accepting HERE after setup), it doesn't work until after a reboot.
[19:27] <sergiusens> plars: just dpkg-deb -x the ubuntu-device-flash.*.deb
[19:28] <ToyKeeper> kenvandine: So, it's still an improvement...  but shouldn't this take effect immediately?
[19:28] <sil2100> robru: what about 30 minutes prior to that?
[19:28] <ogra_> ricmm, http://dashboard.ubuntu-ci:8080/smokeng/utopic/touch_stable/krillin/95:20141010:20141008-8ea26ef/549/
[19:28] <robru> sil2100: that should be fine too. can you use the google calendar to confirm the schedule? it'll show what I'm doing at that time. I have a thing at 1PM my time but I think it's before that anyway
[19:29] <sil2100> robru: sure, we just need msm to do that though, as she needs to assign a room for us
[19:29] <robru> ah
[19:29] <imgbot> [19:29] <imgbot> [19:30] <sil2100> robru: once that's done you'll be added to the invite
[19:31] <robru> sil2100: alright
[19:37] <ricmm> plars: are you around?
[19:37] <ricmm> plars: got an idea you can help me with :)
[19:39] <plars> ricmm: kinda, talking to pitti right now, what are you looking for?
[19:40] <ricmm> plars: could you fire off a run of smoke tests for krillin *skipping* the hanging reminders test?
[19:40] <ricmm> and applying this before hand to the ubuntu-ui-toolkit autopilot https://launchpadlibrarian.net/187841873/fix_ubuntuuitoolkit_desktop_file.diff
[19:40] <ricmm> I'm really only interested in the autopilot run, to be fair
[19:56] <kenvandine> ToyKeeper, shouldn't matter, i didn't need a reboot
[19:56] <kenvandine> ToyKeeper, unless maybe your indicator had crashed before starting settings?
[19:56] <kenvandine> or location service
[20:01] <plars> ricmm: unlikely today, and it would have to be done locally
[20:01] <plars> ricmm: it's just the ubuntuuitoolkit tests you want though?
[20:02] <ricmm> plars: nevermind
[20:03] <ricmm> just wanted some parallel check, I can deal with it
[20:03] <plars> ricmm: sorry, just in the middle of some other stuff right now
[20:03] <ToyKeeper> kenvandine: Nope, don't think so...  I tried twice (flash+silo+test) and it failed the same way both time.  GPS doesn't work inside this building so HERE is the only method to get location, and I couldn't get location to work until after a reboot.
[20:04] <kenvandine> well, that is different :)
[20:04] <kenvandine> for this silo you just need to test that the app shows up in the list there
[20:04] <ToyKeeper> kenvandine: I approved it regardless, but it's something to watch out for later.  Accepting HERE post-wizard doesn't take effect until after restarting something.
[20:05] <kenvandine> and that the list item showing HERE as an option should be there on krillin/rtm
[20:05] <kenvandine> ToyKeeper, thanks!
[20:05] <ToyKeeper> s/time/times/  oops
[20:07] <ToyKeeper> kenvandine: I didn't try restarting services individually to identify which one needed to be kicked,  Might be good to add a SIGUSR or SIGHUP something to the location daemon(s) to make it reload config.
[20:07] <ogra_> sil2100, looks like 295 isnt coming out worse than former images with AP dropped from the image (bit early to properly judge, but i see the app tests run (and fail the same ways they did in former images) ...
[20:08] <sil2100> My biggest concern was UITK, which will be probably hard to judge
[20:08] <ogra_> hmm, in fact i see even reminders not go into the usual hang/loop
[20:09] <sil2100> I think it was finally fixed in reminders
[20:09] <sil2100> I mean, failing properly
[20:10] <ogra_> sil2100, hmm http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/mako/293:20141020:20141017.2/11059/ubuntuuitoolkit/
[20:10] <ogra_> thats from two images ago
[20:10] <sil2100> ogra_: yeah, so a new reminders landed in 112 so it shouldn't loop infinitely anymore
[20:11] <ogra_> i doubt we'll actually get any results that are usable on utopic for UITK
[20:11] <sil2100> Ugh
[20:11] <sil2100> Yeah
[20:11] <sil2100> Well, on ubuntu-rtm it will be hard to judge as well, as currently those are failing as well
[20:12] <sil2100> Because of the change of the DesktopFileReader
[20:12] <Mirv> ogra_: wow, locally we just tested UITK and they were "fine" (the qtmir caused ~70 failures)
[20:12] <ogra_> sil2100, well, ricmm sits next to me and has them fully passing all the time :)
[20:12] <ogra_> (with his tiny fix)
[20:12] <ogra_> someone should land that asap
[20:12] <Mirv> that was using qt 5.3.2, which seems quite fine so far
[20:13] <sil2100> Yeah ;) But that's a fix to UITK, right?
[20:13] <sil2100> The desktop file change?
[20:16] <ogra_> sil2100, yup
[20:16] <ogra_> sil2100, actually the uitk-autopilot package
[20:17] <sil2100> ogra_: I only hope it would be possible to release just that, as we have an UITK landing in the queue all the time
[20:18] <sil2100> Just it cannot be let through because it has many non-critical-rtm14 fixes
[20:18] <ogra_> sigh
[20:18] <ogra_> we really need to revise the policy ...
[20:18] <sil2100> And we'll probably have to wait for Thu to get this on the list...
[20:18] <ogra_> releasing with known bugs just because they are not on some artifically made up spreadsheet is a bad idea
[20:19] <sil2100> Since according to the new rules, we only land what is on the list, and if it's not on the list then we wait for it to be evaluated on Thu's
[20:19] <ogra_> yeah
[20:19] <sil2100> This is the revised policy, so I wouldn't expect anything newer ;)
[20:19] <ogra_> right
[20:46] <popey> davmor2: seen this.. http://imgur.com/qJt9YGP ?
[20:46] <popey> network indicator seems to sometimes go a bit funny
[20:49] <ToyKeeper> olli: I'm trying to figure out if silos rtm-005 and rtm-009 can land or if they need to be delayed.  One has 4 bug fixes (1 on the blessed list, 3 not but marked rtm14 high with a milestone of last week, this week, or ota-1)...  the other has two bug fixes not on the list but marked high with this week's milestone.
[20:50] <ToyKeeper> olli: The trello cards have the bug links and details.  https://trello.com/c/lLrGPdMw/     https://trello.com/c/dgnqv5Sa/
[20:51] <ToyKeeper> olli: Any hints on whether to test/approve or delay them?
[20:59] <olli> ToyKeeper, I can tell you tomorrow
[21:00] <ToyKeeper> Okay, thanks.
[21:07] <davmor2> popey: yes network indicator crashes I refer you to cyphermox and awe :)
[21:13] <popey> k
[21:14] <cyphermox> moo?
[21:22] <Mirv> moo powers
[21:28] <ogra_> plars, hmm, so looking at the test results it seems that all click tests are fine on utopic 295, but non-click apps dont look so happy
[21:30] <sil2100> ogra_: on which step are those failing and complaining?
[21:30] <sil2100> During the autopilot tests?
[21:30] <sil2100> Maybe we're missing some deps in the -autopilot packages
[21:31] <ogra_> sil2100, yeah, i think so
[21:31] <ogra_> sil2100, i'm already in istanbul for the meeting, will talk to paul
[21:31] <sil2100> Which meeting?
[21:38] <dobey> what part of the machinery is responsible for the debian/changelog commit message entries with bug numbers? cupstream2distro?
[21:39] <ogra_> sil2100, the one you set up ?
[21:40] <ogra_> sil2100, nobody showed up so we are going again ... i'll find you
[21:40] <sil2100> ogra_: I didn't set it up
[21:40] <sil2100> ogra_: my calendar is empty
[21:40] <ogra_> sil2100, check mail
[21:40] <sil2100> ogra_: it's Michelle setting up meetings, so for now we only reserved one for tomorrow
[21:41] <sil2100> Wait
[21:41] <sil2100> Then there's a mistake
[21:41] <ogra_> yeah, obviously
[21:41] <ogra_> sil2100, she just moved it
[21:41] <sil2100> ogra_: wait, but I have nothing in my calendar
[21:41] <sil2100> Yeah...
[21:42]  * ogra_ is off, drooping stuff 
[21:42] <sil2100> o/