[08:08] <RegularGuy> hmm
[08:08] <RegularGuy> morning
[09:35] <vitimiti> Hi
[11:26] <Mathisen> does it work to install ubuntu on a " Samsung note 10.1 " Gt-N8000
[11:34] <Douglas> I want to install ubuntu touch an "orange" tablet. can someone help?
[11:34] <Mathisen> !touch list
[11:40] <daker> !devices
[12:15] <kenvandine> jgdx, did you see my comment on your HERE branch?
[12:15] <kenvandine> I think if hereInstalled [12:17] <jgdx> kenvandine, I dids
[12:17] <jgdx> kenvandine, adding some states
[12:17] <kenvandine> jgdx, sorry i didn't notice it on last review :)
[12:18] <kenvandine> i updated the testplan with instructions for utopic and rtm
[12:18] <jgdx> kenvandine, ah, but don't we do that after landing?
[12:18] <jgdx> I mean, after merging.
[12:18] <kenvandine> well, easier for qa verification :)
[12:19] <kenvandine> doing it before helps ensure it gets done
[12:19] <jgdx> ack
[12:21] <jgdx> has uss ci gotten unstable recently?
[12:28] <kenvandine> jgdx, it's always a little unstable
[12:29] <jgdx> yes, but unstabler :p
[12:51] <sergiusens> Chipaca: where are you?
[13:02] <alecu> bzoltan, kalikiana, Kaleo: hi! la_juyis is telling me how annoying it is that there's no way to see passwords all the time while being typed. Is there a bug for that? What would be the project where we need to report this, besides ubuntu-ux?
[13:10] <alecu> la_juyis:
[13:10] <alecu> la_juyis: http://www.nngroup.com/articles/stop-password-masking/
[13:11] <alecu> la_juyis: that explains why I think you are right.
[13:17] <jgdx> kenvandine, pushed r1140 to https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/security-allow-acceptance-of-here-terms-fixes-1375322/+merge/238419
[13:19] <la_juyis> alecu, tnx :)
[13:19] <jgdx> mpt, ping
[13:22] <kenvandine> jgdx, thx, building in utopic silo 17
[13:27] <chrisc> i opened a bug requesting the ability to use a proxy web server https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1383716
[13:27] <jgdx> kenvandine, thanks
[13:44] <kalikiana> alecu: we'll have the last typed character temporarily shown; at least that's a partial improvement
[13:46] <kalikiana> alecu: I can't personally agree with always unmasking as I frequently am at public places where people will look at the screen but not my keyboard
[13:46] <Chipaca> bzoltan: hey, whereabouts can i find you?
[14:00] <alecu> kalikiana: agree with that, phones are used in public places more often than computers; but what about an "eye" icon to show the password while pressed? (like shown at the end of that article)
[14:00] <alecu> I find that very useful in a few programs that have it, like Keepass
[14:01] <alecu> here's la_juyis report for that bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1383734
[14:01] <kalikiana> alecu: I do like the checkbox we have for instance in the wlan dialog. That's clearer than a tiny cryptic icon
[14:02] <kalikiana> not to mention it would conflict with "clear"
[14:04]  * alecu looks at the wifi dialog again
[14:05] <alecu> kalikiana: right, it would conflict with clear; I guess we'll need to follow that ui pattern everywhere a password needs to be entered.
[14:05] <alecu> la_juyis: ^
[14:07] <jgdx> kenvandine, 017?
[14:08] <jgdx> seems unrelated
[14:08] <kenvandine> jgdx, huh?  silo utopic silo 17
[14:08] <jgdx> oh right
[14:08] <ogra_> jdstrand, poke
[14:08] <jgdx> kenvandine, is Pat around?
[14:09] <kenvandine> jgdx, i don't know where he is
[14:09] <jgdx> kenvandine, okay
[14:13] <la_juyis> alecu, kalikiana : a checkbox is ok
[14:13] <la_juyis> alecu, kalikiana just checked the wifi dialog and it's ok
[14:13] <la_juyis> (i can't go back now, but the show password thing is ok)
[14:32] <mardy> kenvandine: btw, this might turn useful: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~online-accounts/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/trunk/view/head:/online-accounts-service/mir-helper.h
[14:32] <kenvandine> mardy, thx
[14:33] <bzoltan> Chipaca: in the Stevens room in the cellar
[14:33] <mardy> kenvandine: we have both a real implementation and a stub one, for X11
[14:33] <kenvandine> cool!
[14:36] <pitti> ogra_: bug 1337253
[14:42] <awe_> davmor2, can you still reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1378416
[14:43] <davmor2> awe_: no idea stupid american sim doesn't do 3g
[14:43] <davmor2> awe_: I was hit by it leaving home for the airport in England though
[14:44] <awe_> davmor2, actually it's the hw, not the SIM
[14:44] <davmor2> awe_: well you know what I mean
[14:44] <awe_> anyways, it shouldn't make a difference 2g vs. 3g in theory
[14:44] <awe_> can you connect to 2g?
[14:44] <davmor2> awe_: let me see
[14:45] <awe_> k, thanks
[14:45] <jgdx> awe_, I can
[14:45] <jgdx> I have the airplain icon and 'H' in the indicator.
[14:45] <davmor2> awe_: no I just see the wifi empty symbol where you at?
[14:46] <awe_> jgdx, if you get it in this state, could you grab the output from 'ip route', 'ip address', and 'ip link'?
[14:46] <awe_> davmor2, ballroom B
[14:46] <awe_> jgdx, wrong bug
[14:47] <jgdx> eh?
[14:47] <awe_> jgdx, this is boot system, mobile data connects, connect to WiFI, use it for awhile
[14:47] <awe_> disable WiFi, H icon appears, but you're not online
[14:48] <awe_> the airplane + 2G/3G icon is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1383357
[14:48] <jgdx> awe_, seems I can repro both
[14:48] <jgdx> disabled wifi, mobile data is off, H is displayed, but no conn
[14:49] <awe_> jgdx, ok great, than can you grab the output of the ip commands I pasted above?
[14:50] <awe_> jgdx, in the case of WiFi being disabled, the code tries to restore the default route to use mobile data, and a failure occurs
[14:50] <jgdx> awe_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8615857/
[14:52] <awe_> thanks jgdx
[14:52] <jgdx> awe_, indicators: http://i.imgur.com/pEDA7Sj.png
[14:52] <jgdx> awe_, np
[14:53] <awe_> jgdx, thanks!
[14:54] <awe_> cyphermox, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8615857/plain/
[15:08] <cyphermox> awe_: this is scaring me a bit: Oct  7 13:22:03 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [14655.999891] (0)[1956:rild][ccci/net] (1)CCMNI0 close
[15:08] <awe_> ugh
[15:09] <cyphermox> I think we should verify what this is and why rild decided to touch ccmni0 :/
[15:09] <cyphermox> *if* we can verify that ;)
[15:09] <awe_> sure...  guess it's back in my court
[15:09] <cyphermox> sorry ;)
[15:09] <cyphermox> I'll keep digging on my side, in case it got prompted by NM in some way
[15:09] <awe_> np, can you please add this in the bug?
[15:10] <awe_> ( if you haven't already )
[15:10] <cyphermox> but there's evidence earlier that when NM asks for it, it's written in the log, and NM logs it as well
[15:10] <cyphermox> sure
[15:34] <awe_> cyphermox, davmor2, did you guys verify that davmor2 is able to reproduce the exact problem here, or do we need jgdx to help us?
[15:34] <cyphermox> we do need jgdx's help; it's not quite the same problem here
[15:34] <awe_> I guess the next step is to get a RILD trace and determine whether or not we're receiving a DATA_CALL_LIST_CHANGED event
[15:34] <awe_> cyphermox, thanks
[15:35] <jgdx> har to halp
[15:35] <cyphermox> davmor2 is getting everything correct, but the context never gets an IP address... possibly because we get just edge, I don't know
[15:35] <jgdx> (for the next 30 mins) :P
[16:32] <Dynamicwork> I need some help about ubuntu touch dual boot at Nexus 5, anyone can help me?
[17:29] <vitimiti> Hi
[17:37] <pdq__> have updated to r243 on N4. App updates no longer work (stay at 0% forever), also downloads from Ubuntu store error out. I can't find anything in the log files. Ideas?
[17:37] <dobey> pdq__: delete ad re-add the u1 account in system settings
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> pdq__: got same issues on updates on my n7
[18:08] <pdq__> deleting and re-adding u1 account as suggested here has fixed it for me
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> pdq__: i tryed reset to factory settings and add one account, and also worked
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> hope it stays this way
[19:28] <Chipaca> davmor2:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-push/+bug/1383867
[19:36] <davmor2> Chipaca: just for your info I'm using  ubuntu-device-flash --channel ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed --revision -10  --wipe to flash
[19:37] <Chipaca> davmor2: and i remain absolutely puzzled wrt the sudden disappearance of that push client
[19:37] <Chipaca> but the crasher is fixed, i think :) i'll build it and get you an arm binary for your enjoyment
[19:38] <davmor2> Chipaca: \o/
[19:38] <Chipaca> davmor2: meanwhile what you could do is not have an sd card in
[19:38] <Chipaca> davmor2: as it's the ciborium notification that's sent out early in the boot, before push's bus is ready
[19:39] <davmor2> sergiusens: ^ see it's all your fault
[19:39] <Chipaca> and that's the crash that we see (not the cause of the missing notification, but it'll clean up the logs maybe)
[19:39] <Chipaca> davmor2: ah, that's rule #3
[19:39] <Chipaca> davmor2: rule #2 is your "it's always two things"
[19:39] <davmor2> Chipaca: rule #1 it's always a one line fix
[19:39]  * Chipaca counts the lines
[19:40] <Chipaca> nope :)
[19:40] <davmor2> hahaha
[19:40] <Chipaca> 80+ lines diff, and that's not counting the tests
[19:40] <davmor2> ouch
[19:40] <Chipaca> eh. mostly moving a chunk of code around for the ordering to fail better
[19:41] <davmor2> hahahaha
[19:41] <Chipaca> the other order is conceptually better :) but yeah, problematic
[19:41] <Chipaca> anyway, enough being social for me. To tests!
[19:54] <sergiusens> Chipaca: davmor2 fwiw, ciborium has a start on started ubuntu-push-client
[19:54] <Chipaca> sergiusens: yep
[19:54] <sergiusens> and I think we had this conversation already
[19:54] <Chipaca> sergiusens: or something similar
[19:54] <sergiusens> about using emit or something :-)
[19:54] <Chipaca> yeah
[19:54] <davmor2> sergiusens: I don't care it's your fault
[19:54] <Chipaca> agreed
[19:55] <sergiusens> it's not really; it harmless if ciborium fails to deliver the push
[19:55] <Chipaca> sergiusens: so, while we do the emit (if and when), can ciborium sleep 2 seconds after started ubuntu-push-client ?
[19:56] <Chipaca> sergiusens: and, non-relatedly, would you accept a patch to ciborium that kept track of the sd's it's seen, and make it not notify you of ones it's already notified you about?
[19:56] <sergiusens> Chipaca: some people would hang me though
[19:56] <Chipaca> sergiusens: which people? i can talk with them -- make them want to hang me instead
[19:56] <sergiusens> Chipaca: cold reboots, no; just be a user
[19:56] <sergiusens> Chipaca: talk to ogra about adding sleeps
[19:57] <Chipaca> ok
[19:57] <Chipaca> sergiusens: cold reboowha?
[19:57] <sergiusens> Chipaca: where are you?
[19:57] <Chipaca> sergiusens: in dallas
[19:57] <sergiusens> Chipaca: is that in a meeting or just hanging?
[19:57] <davmor2> Chipaca: liar you are in DC :P
[19:57] <Chipaca> sergiusens: no, in actual dallas, with cowboy hats and all
[19:58] <Chipaca> sergiusens: (just hacking)
[19:58] <Chipaca> sergiusens: you?
[19:58] <sergiusens> Chipaca: ballroom b
[19:58] <Chipaca> ooh, aren't you fancy
[19:58] <sergiusens> Chipaca: want to come over? or should I walk over?
[19:58]  * bubbasaures hears sonny rollins playing "I'm an old Cowhand"
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: you also a touch user?
[20:01] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje, Not lately had it on my forst gen nexus 7 at times.
[20:01] <bubbasaures> first*
[20:01] <ogra_> Chipaca, sergiusens, given my state of jetlag i'm all for adding sleeps :P
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> i have the n7 2013 wifi :p
[20:13] <Chipaca> ogra_: i went outside just now and there was a bit of wind. it was whispering "remember chipaca's ppu", so i suspect it wasn't talking to me
[20:15] <ogra_> heh
[20:52] <daker> anyone know how fix the infographics ? it doesn't show stats at all for me for few months now
[20:57] <daker> i think bug 1374553 isn't fixed yet
[21:39] <popey> MacSlow: hey, is there an api for app developers to be able to use the notifications like the volume one, for notifying the user of something?
[21:40] <popey> MacSlow: we have an app developer (here at the sprint) who could do with some advice on this when you're around
[21:40] <MacSlow> popey, no... with unity8 notifications are restricted to non-confined apps only
[21:41] <popey> MacSlow: so what do app developers do? Are they expected to implement their own notifications?
[21:41] <MacSlow> popey, security-reasons force us to restrict access to notifications sadly
[21:48] <nhaines> Ubuntu is removing the notifications API?
[21:48]  * nhaines emails OMG! Ubuntu.
[21:51] <Laney> Security reasons like what?
[21:52] <larsu> popey: I told them this a while ago. The official answer is that apps don't need to notify yet
[21:52] <larsu> Laney: spamming maybe?
[21:53] <Dynamicwork> I need some help about ubuntu touch dual boot at Nexus 5, anyone can help me?
[21:53] <nhaines> !ask
[21:53] <Dynamicwork> !patience
[21:54] <nhaines> Especially when no one's around.  :)
[21:54] <Dynamicwork> ok. thanx :D
[21:54] <nhaines> ubuntu-rtm/14.09 r5 is broken on hammerhead (Nexus 5) as far as I can tell.
[21:54] <nhaines> Use r4 or ubuntu-rtm/14.04-proposed r100 or higher for now.  :)
[21:55] <Dynamicwork> umm, I wanna say that dual boot installation is teasing me ;-;
[22:06] <Dynamicwork> nhaines: where can I download  ubuntu-rtm/14.04-proposed image manually? I'm still finding it but there was nowhere I can download it manually(tar.xz).
[22:18] <nhaines> Dynamicwork: no idea.  I dual-boot with MultiROM Manager.  Tassadar knows all that for me.  (Thanks, Tassadar@)
[22:26] <Tassadar> ^^
[22:30] <the_storm> guys how can I get the source of the kernel on android nexus having an ubuntu phone ?
[22:30] <the_storm> I want to patch the kernel and flash to the device but I can't get the source
[22:41] <the_storm> popey I want to download the kernel source code of ubuntu phone any suggestions to get the source code?