| brousch | mrgoodcat: sorry, was at grpug meeting | 01:00 |
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| _stink_ | so you guys are all playing Go against each other? | 03:10 |
| _stink_ | i might want in | 03:10 |
| _stink_ | getting my ass handed to me | 03:10 |
| cmaloney | That is apparently a specialty | 03:49 |
| _stink_ | haha | 03:57 |
| brousch | _stink_: I'm brousch on DGS | 12:01 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: i was gonna ask if we should resume play for the top left corner. I could have killed that bent 3, thus reducing your territory and increasing my own. I would still have lost but I wanted to see how it played out. | 12:46 |
| brousch | Top left? How would you attack that? | 12:48 |
| mrgoodcat | if i go f12 | 12:49 |
| brousch | ah, top middle | 12:50 |
| brousch | You should have gone for it | 12:50 |
| mrgoodcat | your choices are e12 or f13 | 12:50 |
| mrgoodcat | either way though, you would have been screwed | 12:50 |
| brousch | yeah | 12:50 |
| mrgoodcat | next time i'll just resume play if i'm unsure | 12:51 |
| brousch | Right | 12:51 |
| brousch | Just ignore the statement that it's over and go for it | 12:51 |
| brousch | Or say something like "I'd like to try to attack some more" | 12:52 |
| brousch | I've always gotten a "go for it" from an opponent when I do that | 12:52 |
| mrgoodcat | yea i'm a little unsure of the etiquette on things like that. since it wouldn't have affected the outcome of the game | 12:53 |
| brousch | I can see a 10 point swing in that spot | 12:55 |
| brousch | Might have made it close enough to attempt something in the lower left | 12:55 |
| brousch | I'd lose 4 territory, you'd gain 3 takes and 3 territory | 12:57 |
| brousch | But really, your opponent has no choice but to continue if you don't pass | 12:59 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 13:21 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | Apparently the one thing I'm really good at is letting brousch capture me. | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | I love being handicapped throughout the game. :) | 13:23 |
| brousch | heh | 13:25 |
| brousch | cmaloney: I wasn't sure how long you'd work on that lower right corner before seeing what's up | 13:25 |
| cmaloney | yeah, lost a lot of ground in there | 13:32 |
| brousch | I think you were only 1 liberty from not losing it | 13:36 |
| cmaloney | yeah, unfortunately I'm not strong enough to not shoot myself in the foot. | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | Have a hard time figuring out which shapes are secure and which will get me into trouble. | 13:52 |
| brousch | 2 eyes are the only real defense | 14:02 |
| brousch | 2+ | 14:02 |
| brousch | If you can't make 2 eyes, you need to make it really annoying to attempt to take | 14:02 |
| brousch | Like right now you have a good eye at h10, but it's vulnerable without the second | 14:04 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: i'm not quite sure this is a good idea, but i'm going for it | 14:37 |
| brousch | Yes, I'm curious | 14:38 |
| brousch | I think it is legit | 14:38 |
| brousch | More aggressive than I'm used to | 14:39 |
| mrgoodcat | good counter. was hoping you wouldn't see that | 14:46 |
| brousch | Seems useful | 14:49 |
| brousch | cmaloney: [Discuss] (forw) [clampkin@teksystems.com: TEKsystems] | 15:11 |
| brousch | I like how it's just "Discuss", not "MUG Discuss" | 15:11 |
| brousch | Fits right in with "Michigan User Group" | 15:12 |
| cmaloney | Heh | 15:14 |
| cmaloney | We're all about co-opting everytrhing we can. :) | 15:14 |
| cmaloney | Also about not violating an RFC or two with some of these overloaded subject lines | 15:15 |
| brousch | You only need 1 discussion list in your life, and this is it | 15:16 |
| jrwren | michigan /usr group | 15:16 |
| cmaloney | brousch: ++ | 15:18 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: well at least i'll escape from one side or the other i think | 15:40 |
| mrgoodcat | turns out it was a bad idea to be that aggressive | 15:40 |
| mrgoodcat | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 15:40 |
| mrgoodcat | live and learn | 15:40 |
| brousch | escape? | 15:43 |
| mrgoodcat | try to anyways | 15:45 |
| brousch | Ko fight! | 15:46 |
| mrgoodcat | so it would seem | 15:52 |
| * mrgoodcat just looked up ko fight | 15:52 | |
| mrgoodcat | i know laughably little about this game it would seem | 15:52 |
| brousch | This is my first Ko fight | 15:52 |
| mrgoodcat | you're going to win | 15:56 |
| brousch | I think so | 15:56 |
| brousch | I don't see a way out for you, but you are often unpredictable | 15:57 |
| cmaloney | http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/792447-3-alternatives-to-the-adobe-pdf-reader-on-linux | 17:20 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/gVBIqP - 3 Alternatives to the Adobe PDF Reader on Linux | Linux.com | 17:20 |
| cmaloney | I'm really starting to despise Adobe. | 17:20 |
| brousch | Took you long enough | 17:21 |
| cmaloney | Before it was a dull hate | 17:21 |
| greg-g | that aching tooth you never get looked at | 17:22 |
| greg-g | then BAM, infection and you lose half your mouth | 17:22 |
| greg-g | that is Adobe. | 17:22 |
| cmaloney | greg-g Yeah | 17:22 |
| cmaloney | They make great formats. I still think PDFs and ePubs are the bee's knees | 17:23 |
| cmaloney | and Postscript <3<3<3 | 17:23 |
| cmaloney | but their client software support needs to die in a fire | 17:23 |
| brousch | My favorite interaction with Adobe was when they sponsored a GRWebDev meeting and pimped their new creative cloud stuff. I asked , "Does it run on Linux?" "What's Linux?" "It's what all your creative cloud servers run on" "Oh, no" | 17:24 |
| cmaloney | I'm using YNAB in Wine because it's brilliant, and also because Adobe stopped supporting AIR under Linux | 17:24 |
| jrwren | PDF is NOT the bee's knees. It is a security joke. | 17:24 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: It became one when they added Javascript | 17:24 |
| cmaloney | They couldn't leave well-enough alone | 17:24 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: and AIR | 17:24 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: and SWF | 17:25 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: SWF needs to find a fire real-soon-now | 17:25 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: you can embed a SWF in a PDF and it executes with full desktop security context when you open it in Reader. | 17:25 |
| cmaloney | AIR I'm mixed on | 17:25 |
| cmaloney | Gah | 17:25 |
| cmaloney | What the fuck | 17:25 |
| greg-g | don't download things you don't trust, mmmkay? | 17:25 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: That's probably why they're dropping Linux | 17:25 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: I think the moral is to just cut your network connection | 17:26 |
| brousch | Air on Linux was killed circa 2011 | 17:26 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: air lock and faraday cage, yep. It's the only way. | 17:26 |
| jrwren | but then adobe does cool things like brackets. | 17:26 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I mean they have cool stuff | 17:27 |
| greg-g | like the dude from Enemy of the State | 17:27 |
| greg-g | Enemy of Adobe. | 17:27 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: I'm thinking of Panic Room (or the one with Patrick Stewart) | 17:27 |
| greg-g | never saw that one | 17:27 |
| greg-g | ok, time to do an interview! :) | 17:28 |
| cmaloney | Glass House maybe? | 17:28 |
| cmaloney | for work or something else? | 17:28 |
| greg-g | (I'm hiring a Release Engineer, remote welcome, if you know anyone) | 17:28 |
| cmaloney | Isn't that you? | 17:28 |
| greg-g | https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/29435?t=5fw24x | 17:28 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/deQ1lO - Job Application for Release Engineer at Wikimedia Foundation | 17:28 |
| greg-g | I'm now the Release Team Manager :) | 17:28 |
| cmaloney | Nice! | 17:28 |
| * greg-g has a team of 8, soon to be 9 | 17:28 | |
| greg-g | it's weird, it's like they think I'm an adult | 17:30 |
| mrgoodcat | pretty good woot right now if anyone needs an A/V receiver | 17:30 |
| brousch | Do they all wear those goofy foot-shaped shoes and sport beards? | 17:30 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Gah | 17:31 |
| greg-g | brousch: just me | 17:31 |
| * greg-g actually only wears "five fingers" when running | 17:32 | |
| brousch | greg-g: Is it wrong that I think everyone who works for Wikimedia looks like you? | 17:32 |
| greg-g | heh, there's a lot of variance in the SF hipster scene, especially the non-profit one ;) | 17:32 |
| mrgoodcat | gryou have a pair of vibrams? | 17:33 |
| mrgoodcat | wtf tab complete sent a weird character instead of completing.... | 17:33 |
| mrgoodcat | greg-g: you have a pair of vibrams? | 17:33 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: :) | 17:33 |
| cmaloney | Chucks or GTFO. :) | 17:37 |
| cmaloney | I love this bio of J. Random Follower on Twitter | 17:39 |
| cmaloney | Founder / CEO of @[eponymous company] Building a world class company that delivers on networked knowledge for organisations & ultimately explores the same for humanity. | 17:40 |
| cmaloney | I'm the Founder / CEO of @squeekyhoho. Building a world class company that delivers on networked knowledge for organisations & ultimately explores the same for humanity. | 17:41 |
| mrgoodcat | it works for pretty much anything | 17:41 |
| cmaloney | It's a nothing mission statement | 17:41 |
| _stink_ | haha, i love it | 18:05 |
| * _stink_ puts that on a t-shirt | 18:05 | |
| greg-g | mrgoodcat: yeah, I run in them, I like the zero elevation diff betwen front and back of foot | 18:08 |
| mrgoodcat | i've been thinking of getting a pair | 18:09 |
| mrgoodcat | i heard you can hurt your feet but it stands to reason that people are just hurting themselves because they haven't conditioned their feet properly to run without arch supports | 18:09 |
| greg-g | I ran barefoot for a while as well, but the vibrams give you some protection from rocks and such, which is nice :) | 18:09 |
| greg-g | mrgoodcat: exactly | 18:09 |
| mrgoodcat | i run barefoot now | 18:09 |
| greg-g | mrgoodcat: don't go all out at first if... oh, you run barefoot now, cool | 18:10 |
| mrgoodcat | but it limits where i can run | 18:10 |
| greg-g | when I switched to barefoot from shoes, I was running 6 miles a day, so I had to go easy during the transition | 18:10 |
| mrgoodcat | i've done some trail running barefoot but i cut myself real bad last year at the chrysler proving grounds | 18:10 |
| greg-g | eek | 18:11 |
| greg-g | yeah, fivefingers would help | 18:11 |
| brousch | If only you could put something tough yet flexible between your feet and the ground to prevent such things. Maybe like a piece of car tire | 18:19 |
| greg-g | some do! | 18:20 |
| greg-g | as long as there isn't an incline (higher heal than ball) it's probably ok | 18:20 |
| * greg-g goes afk | 18:20 | |
| brousch | It would probably fall off, so maybe you could strap it over the top of the foot to hold it on better | 18:21 |
| mrgoodcat | i think i'll just get a pair of vibrams | 18:22 |
| brousch | Maybe run a strap behind the heel to keep it from sliding off the front, too | 18:22 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: i realize you're making fun of me not just buying shoes | 18:26 |
| brousch | OMG you're right that is kind of like a shoe! | 18:27 |
| * brousch is an ass today. | 18:27 | |
| mrgoodcat | vibrams are shoes. just a lot less supportive and restrictive | 18:28 |
| rick_h_ | gotta love having the "just do it because I said so feeling" ... and then swallowing it as hard as you can | 18:37 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: now why would you ever even think that? ;] | 18:46 |
| rick_h_ | I just have to remember that when I end up being right, that even saying jfdi would not have been a good thing. :) | 18:47 |
| rick_h_ | and chew on some times I was wrong...but damn I'm cranky about how 'right' I was on this one and the fact I let it go until now pisses me off | 18:47 |
| jrwren | jfdi is NEVER a good thinkg | 18:47 |
| rick_h_ | oh I can think it :P | 18:48 |
| rick_h_ | and then swallow hard and move along | 18:48 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: ha, funny that I don't even know what you are talking about ;] | 18:48 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, I'm trapped. I can't vent on twitter because everyone follows me, then G+...same boat, and now in IRC you're here so at least it's only one person lol | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | my dog doesn't give a damn about api implementations :P | 18:49 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: you can still vent. I'll just /ignore you. | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | good plan | 18:49 |
| jrwren | someone let me know if rick_h_ responds. I have him on /ignore :p | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: is the best guy on the team, shame he /ignores me ! | 18:50 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: i keep a connection to *other* irc networks for just venting. I drove everyone away. | 18:50 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 18:50 |
| brousch | I thought CHC was for venting | 18:54 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I've missed the last few weeks with travel | 18:55 |
| rick_h_ | guess we know what tomorrow will bring :P | 18:55 |
| jrwren | ... unless i crash :p | 18:55 |
| cmaloney | brousch: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pi-top-a-raspberry-pi-laptop-you-build-yourself | 20:59 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/LcByDg - Pi-Top, a Raspberry Pi laptop you build yourself! | Indiegogo | 20:59 |
| brousch | cmaloney: I'm not convinced the rpi is useful for general computing | 21:01 |
| brousch | ah, but I have to run. bbl | 21:02 |
| cmaloney | Laterness | 21:02 |
| cmaloney | Wow, apparently my linode instance had a hardware fault. | 21:47 |
| rick_h_ | boom | 21:57 |
| cmaloney | They took care of it before I could figure out what was going on. :) | 21:59 |
| rick_h_ | nice | 22:02 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: i've done general comp with my pi no problem | 22:57 |
| mrgoodcat | model B | 22:57 |
| mrgoodcat | just basic web browsing and media | 22:57 |
| mrgoodcat | I ran arch and i3-wm on it | 22:58 |
| mrgoodcat | with everything running it only had like 20 processes in htop | 22:58 |
| brousch | It's quite slow on Raspbian | 23:02 |
| mrgoodcat | i never really bothered much with raspbian | 23:05 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm surprised its slow though | 23:07 |
| mrgoodcat | have you tried a lighter weight window manager | 23:07 |
| mrgoodcat | ? | 23:07 |
| mrgoodcat | i'd try slim login manager and openbox or something like that. might free up some resources for you | 23:10 |
| brousch | Lighter than lxde? | 23:25 |
| mrgoodcat | oh yea | 23:25 |
| brousch | It's the browser itself that is slow | 23:25 |
| mrgoodcat | lxde is pretty light as far as traditional window managers go but there are definitely lighter options | 23:25 |
| mrgoodcat | ever try links browser? | 23:26 |
| rick_h_ | links2 | 23:27 |
| rick_h_ | or w3m is what I tend to use for html mail from mutt | 23:27 |
| mrgoodcat | w3m is just the renderer for mutt right? | 23:27 |
| rick_h_ | no, it's a browser | 23:28 |
| mrgoodcat | how do you scroll emails in mutt? | 23:30 |
| mrgoodcat | i've been using alpine | 23:30 |
| rick_h_ | <space> ? | 23:31 |
| mrgoodcat | wow thats quite the help page | 23:34 |
| mrgoodcat | alpine is quite a bit simpler but it seems like mutt has a lot more commands | 23:34 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 23:45 |
| mrgoodcat | yea mutt seems ok | 23:48 |
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