/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/10/21/#ubuntu-za.txt

magespawngood morning04:30
Kilosmorning all05:15
bduk1Morning everyone05:25
Kiloshi bduk1  05:35
magespawnhi Kilos06:05
magespawngotta go again 06:06
magespawnbbl 06:06
Kilossjoe06:07
Kiloshi drussell  06:10
drussellKilos: an early good morning to you ;o) How's things?06:12
Kilosgood ty drussell  and by you?06:13
Kilossummer is here so im good06:13
Squirmmorning06:14
Kiloshi Squirm  06:14
drussellKilos: hehe summer, a distant memory, it's now wet and windy here06:17
Kiloshehe06:17
drussellKilos: but yeah, all is good06:17
Kilosdunno how you peeps survive there06:17
drussellKilos: alcohol, and plenty of it :oD06:17
Kilosrofl06:18
Squirmdrussell: where's 'here'06:18
Squirm?06:18
drussellSquirm: UK06:18
Squirmah06:19
SquirmWhere abouts?06:19
drussellSquirm: technically the middle of nowhere.... an hour north of Worcester, or an hour south of Birmingham...06:21
drussellSquirm: though right now I'm on a train to London06:21
drussell(hence the dropping connection a few times no doubt)06:21
Squirmnone that we can see anyway06:24
Squirmmy sister almost went to work at a school outside of Worcester06:27
SquirmI want to say Fernhill06:28
Squirmno06:29
Squirmit's not06:29
Squirmbut I think it was between Worcester and Kidderminster06:30
drussellSquirm: could be, possibly Droitwich?06:44
Squirmdrussell: no. the name eludes me completely. never mind :P06:45
drussellSquirm: hehe, np, but yeah that part of the world is where I live :o)06:45
Squirmquiet in here today09:43
Kilosvery09:44
charlgood morning all09:52
charlMaaz: coffee on09:52
* Maaz flips the salt-timer09:52
charlhi Squirm, Kilos 09:52
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!09:56
JabberwockyA19still feels like Monday to me09:57
JabberwockyA19hi charl, Squirm, Kilos09:57
charlhi JabberwockyA19 09:57
Kiloshi JabberwockyA19  09:58
Kiloshi charl  too09:58
KilosMaaz  coffee please09:58
MaazKilos: There isn't a pot on09:58
Kilosai!09:58
Kilosim busy cooking so i lose out09:58
JabberwockyA19I'm working in cape town now10:00
JabberwockyA19getting used to the sound of the cannon each day10:01
Kiloswow you also there now10:01
Kiloseveryone is going south10:01
JabberwockyA19I was born here :P10:01
JabberwockyA19moved from stellenbosch though10:02
charlthe cannon ?!10:02
Kilosah10:02
JabberwockyA19signal hill cannon10:02
charlgoogling10:02
charlah the noon gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noon_Gun10:03
JabberwockyA19http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noon_Gun10:03
JabberwockyA19hehe :)10:03
charlthey have NTP these days you know :P10:04
charlthat's NTP for oldfags :P10:04
* theblazehen is almost out of data :( can I get a tldr?10:04
theblazehenOK... Wanna see what that had to do with ntp10:05
Kiloswhats that theblazehen  10:05
theblazehenKilos: too long; didn't read10:05
charltheblazehen: it's a canon that fires at 12:00 exactly every day10:05
theblazehenA summary10:05
charlto indicate the time10:05
theblazehenChanServ: interesting10:05
theblazehenCharl*10:05
charlchanserv is not interesting it's boring :P10:05
charllol10:05
theblazehenI wish I could disable prediction for ChanServ 10:06
charlit depends on the client you're using10:06
charlif you use irssi it looks at the list of last active nicknames and then prefers that10:07
charlbut even in irssi it sometimes fails me10:07
theblazehenYeah. On quassel10:07
charlah don't know it10:07
charlmaybe there are some settings though10:07
theblazehenNice mobile client10:07
theblazehenNah, unless I maybe mess with the source10:07
theblazehenWanna add auto reconnect anyway10:08
charlfor example if i type k-tab i get kilos and not kbmonkey like i would have gotten if it was alphabetifc10:11
Squirmwell10:11
SquirmI like XChat :P10:11
charlif i type s-tab i get Squirm and not sakhi10:12
charlquite handy10:12
Kilosha i never tried that before10:12
Kiloscharl  10:12
charlah10:12
Kilosworks on konversation it seems10:12
charlnice10:12
Kilosya cool10:13
KilosMaaz  seen thatgraemeguy10:13
MaazKilos: thatgraemeguy was last seen 1 day, 3 hours, 47 minutes and 12 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-10-19 23:26:23 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-10-20 00:32:17 PDT10:13
Kiloswonder what happened to him10:13
KilosMaaz  seen inetpro  10:13
MaazKilos: inetpro was last seen 14 hours, 19 minutes and 37 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-10-20 12:54:21 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-10-20 06:33:58 PDT10:13
charlhe was here yesterday evening Kilos 10:15
Kilostgraeme?10:15
Kilosai!10:15
Kilosi saw the pro yesterday complain about his networks10:15
charlno inetpro 10:15
Kilosinetpro  did you fix it??10:16
inetprogood mornings11:20
inetproKilos: I is here man11:20
* inetpro just got lost somewhere in the ether11:22
Kilosgood11:26
Kilosai!11:51
Vince-0Kilos, !12:10
Kiloshi Vince-0  12:12
Kilossorry was cooking12:12
Vince-0no problemo, IRC ain't goin nowhere12:21
Kiloslol12:23
charlhi Vince-0 12:26
charlhi inetpro 12:26
magespawnhowdy all12:26
Kiloshi magespawn  12:28
magespawnthat was a long bbl12:28
Kiloslol yeah12:29
inetprohi charl12:31
magespawnhere is a question, can you run vlan tagging through unmanaged switch's? 12:33
Vince-0haai charl12:50
theblazehenmagespawn: I assume you can running, but just not create the tags, through them? At least from what I understand12:55
theblazehencan run*12:55
magespawnyup that is what i have been reading so far12:56
* Squirm looks around12:56
theblazehenhi Squirm12:56
theblazehenheh, and that was just from me reading the ops school thing last december...12:57
theblazehenhttp://www.opsschool.org/en/latest/ quite nice12:57
charlthat looks great theblazehen 13:49
somaunnHello Guys14:03
somaunnHello Kilos14:03
somaunnHello inetpro14:03
somaunnhello superfly14:03
somaunnhello tumbleweed14:04
Kiloshi somaunn  14:07
Kilosyou sound desperate14:07
Kiloswhat broke14:07
somaunnnothing14:09
somaunnlol ... Kilos14:10
somaunnwhy are you saying that ?14:10
Kiloslol because you greeting us in turn14:10
Kilosall good there somaunn  ?14:10
Kilosi missed you yesterday, sorry, was outside i think14:11
somaunni see 14:11
somaunnKilos: all good just enjoying KDE 5 on fedora 21 alpha14:12
somaunnfound it actually faster and better than i've seen up to now from KDE team14:12
Kilosim on kde as well. the one thats in kubuntu 14.0414:12
somaunnokay 14:13
somaunnyou should try KDE 5 it's really good 14:13
Kilosi like it14:13
Kilosfound some interesting things to do to it14:14
KilosMaaz  google 20 cool thinks to do after installing kubuntu14:14
somaunnKDE 5 is even better than the old ones, use less memory from what i've seen up to now 14:14
MaazKilos: "20 cool things to do after installing Kubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr" http://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/ :: "20 things to do after installing Linux Mint 17 Qiana Cinnamon" http://www.binarytides.com/better-linux-mint-17-cinnamon/ :: "Things to do after installing Kubuntu - The Mukt" http://www.themukt.com/2014/09/17/10-things-installing-kubuntu/ ::14:14
Maaz"Help For Linux: 7 Things to Do After Installing Kubuntu & KDE in ..." http://helpforlin…14:14
Kilosoh you on fedora14:14
Kilosmight still work some of those tips14:15
somaunnwas expecting to see a mercedes things (massive memory usage) but nothing like that since days14:15
somaunnyeah Kilos i'm on fedora14:15
Kiloseven give dolphin root powers14:15
Kilosvery lekker14:15
Kilosyou okes with your toffee OS14:16
somaunnyah u said so very lekker14:16
Kilossounds like you sucking toffees with yum this and yum that14:16
somaunntoffee OS ??14:17
Kilosfedora14:17
Kiloshaha14:17
somaunnlol that's ... lol14:17
somaunni actually use dnf which is even better and faster but still need to wait the teams make it work easily like yum14:17
somaunncan't get this command sudo yum install kde5-\* to work 14:24
somaunnsomeone to help ?14:24
Kiloslets ask Squirm  he is the fedora man14:26
somaunnokay14:26
somaunnSquirm: have you got any solution to get this kde 5 install command to work ?14:26
SquirmI'm not a fedora man :/14:27
SquirmI know RH14:27
Squirmwith Gome 214:27
somaunnokay i see14:27
Kilosoh 14:27
Kilos0oooops14:27
Squirmsomaunn: what if you leave out the "\" ?14:27
somaunnlet me see14:27
somaunnresult : No package kde5-* available.14:28
magespawnwhy the -* at the end?14:28
magespawnwhy not yum install kde514:29
somaunnmagespawn: never tried that because i've done this one first sudo yum install plasma514:29
somaunnbut it's look like not all is install but only plasma related stuffs14:30
Kilosdoes that thing use dpkg too?14:31
somaunnKilos: not, it uses rpm14:32
Squirmsomaunn: maybe kde5*14:36
KilosMaaz  define rpm14:37
MaazKilos: rpm n 1: rate of revolution of a motor; "the engine was doing 6000 revs" [syn: {revolutions per minute}, {rpm}, {rev}], RPM Radio Packet Modem (Motorola) , RPM Redhat Package Manager (Linux) , RPM Remote Port Module (Ascend)14:37
Squirmbut surely you would want to install the main package and that will install dependencies 14:37
SquirmKilos: it's the same as dep14:37
Squirmdeb14:37
Squirmwell, same thing. it's just a package14:37
Kilosnot the same deb works14:37
Squirmit does the same thing as a debian package14:38
Kilossomaunn  is kde5 not part of the release you are running14:38
Kilosim teasing man14:38
Kiloswe just reinstall kubuntu-desktop14:38
Squirmoh, I see there was meant to me a comma in there14:39
Squirmsomaunn: did you update after you added the repo?14:39
Squirmor did it update14:39
Squirmyum update14:40
SquirmIt needs to download the package lists from the repo's you would have added14:40
somaunnthis is what i did http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kde-plasma-5-on-fedora-20-and-fedora-21-rawhide/14:40
SquirmI know14:41
Squirmbut did it update14:41
Squirmtry `yum update`14:41
somaunnSquirm: yeah i did with both Yum and dnf14:41
Squirmhmm14:41
Squirmand if you `yum search kde5`, does it bring up packages?14:41
somaunnSquirm: yes it does14:43
somaunnSquirm: I have removed 4 sources from dvratil but kept the one from copr14:46
somaunnSquirm: now I get some update for plasma 514:46
somaunnyet it's only 8.2 M14:49
somaunnbut let see what i get after that's done14:49
somaunnat this stage i can't understand how come dnf perform better than Yum since it's a new alternative which is not even massively used by peoples15:00
somaunnthat's ... crazy15:00
somaunnnothing to do 15:17
somaunnSquirm: thanks for help15:18
somaunnwill let it as it15:18
somaunnuntil something new comes on the web15:18
somaunnSquirm: it's now working better, I've found a work arround15:35
somaunnusing the unstable mirror from dvratil 15:35
somaunnyet it's the unstable thing but it's worx and it's a good experience for me 15:35
Kilossjoe15:41
Squirmok17:06
Squirm'lo17:06
magespawnbrb just going up to my room17:24
Kiloswe got thunder and lightning, hopefully rain will follow17:39
Kiloslots and lots17:39
charlgood evening17:44
Kiloshi charl  17:45
magespawnhowdy all18:01
charlhi Kilos18:16
Kiloshi mage18:17
Kilosyou take long to get upstairs hey18:17
Kilosmanual crank handle lifts?18:18
Kilosaw he left18:19
Kiloswb magespawn  what happened18:20
magespawnhey bad wifi signal18:21
Kilossjoe18:21
Kiloscomplain to management18:21
Kilosoffer to sort it18:21
Kilosyou the wifi man18:21
magespawni would be the person to complain to18:22
Kilosrofl18:22
Kilosohi superfly  18:23
theblazehenHi18:23
superflyhi Kilos18:23
magespawnhi superfly 18:24
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:38
superflyhi magespawn18:50
charlnn all20:47

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