[04:30] <magespawn> good morning
[05:15] <Kilos> morning all
[05:25] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[05:35] <Kilos> hi bduk1  
[06:05] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[06:06] <magespawn> gotta go again 
[06:06] <magespawn> bbl 
[06:07] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:10] <Kilos> hi drussell  
[06:12] <drussell> Kilos: an early good morning to you ;o) How's things?
[06:13] <Kilos> good ty drussell  and by you?
[06:13] <Kilos> summer is here so im good
[06:14] <Squirm> morning
[06:14] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[06:17] <drussell> Kilos: hehe summer, a distant memory, it's now wet and windy here
[06:17] <Kilos> hehe
[06:17] <drussell> Kilos: but yeah, all is good
[06:17] <Kilos> dunno how you peeps survive there
[06:17] <drussell> Kilos: alcohol, and plenty of it :oD
[06:18] <Kilos> rofl
[06:18] <Squirm> drussell: where's 'here'
[06:18] <Squirm> ?
[06:18] <drussell> Squirm: UK
[06:19] <Squirm> ah
[06:19] <Squirm> Where abouts?
[06:21] <drussell> Squirm: technically the middle of nowhere.... an hour north of Worcester, or an hour south of Birmingham...
[06:21] <drussell> Squirm: though right now I'm on a train to London
[06:21] <drussell> (hence the dropping connection a few times no doubt)
[06:24] <Squirm> none that we can see anyway
[06:27] <Squirm> my sister almost went to work at a school outside of Worcester
[06:28] <Squirm> I want to say Fernhill
[06:29] <Squirm> no
[06:29] <Squirm> it's not
[06:30] <Squirm> but I think it was between Worcester and Kidderminster
[06:44] <drussell> Squirm: could be, possibly Droitwich?
[06:45] <Squirm> drussell: no. the name eludes me completely. never mind :P
[06:45] <drussell> Squirm: hehe, np, but yeah that part of the world is where I live :o)
[09:43] <Squirm> quiet in here today
[09:44] <Kilos> very
[09:52] <charl> good morning all
[09:52] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:52]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[09:52] <charl> hi Squirm, Kilos 
[09:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[09:57] <JabberwockyA19> still feels like Monday to me
[09:57] <JabberwockyA19> hi charl, Squirm, Kilos
[09:57] <charl> hi JabberwockyA19 
[09:58] <Kilos> hi JabberwockyA19  
[09:58] <Kilos> hi charl  too
[09:58] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[09:58] <Maaz> Kilos: There isn't a pot on
[09:58] <Kilos> ai!
[09:58] <Kilos> im busy cooking so i lose out
[10:00] <JabberwockyA19> I'm working in cape town now
[10:01] <JabberwockyA19> getting used to the sound of the cannon each day
[10:01] <Kilos> wow you also there now
[10:01] <Kilos> everyone is going south
[10:01] <JabberwockyA19> I was born here :P
[10:02] <JabberwockyA19> moved from stellenbosch though
[10:02] <charl> the cannon ?!
[10:02] <Kilos> ah
[10:02] <JabberwockyA19> signal hill cannon
[10:02] <charl> googling
[10:03] <charl> ah the noon gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noon_Gun
[10:03] <JabberwockyA19> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noon_Gun
[10:03] <JabberwockyA19> hehe :)
[10:04] <charl> they have NTP these days you know :P
[10:04] <charl> that's NTP for oldfags :P
[10:04]  * theblazehen is almost out of data :( can I get a tldr?
[10:05] <theblazehen> OK... Wanna see what that had to do with ntp
[10:05] <Kilos> whats that theblazehen  
[10:05] <theblazehen> Kilos: too long; didn't read
[10:05] <charl> theblazehen: it's a canon that fires at 12:00 exactly every day
[10:05] <theblazehen> A summary
[10:05] <charl> to indicate the time
[10:05] <theblazehen> ChanServ: interesting
[10:05] <theblazehen> Charl*
[10:05] <charl> chanserv is not interesting it's boring :P
[10:05] <charl> lol
[10:06] <theblazehen> I wish I could disable prediction for ChanServ 
[10:06] <charl> it depends on the client you're using
[10:07] <charl> if you use irssi it looks at the list of last active nicknames and then prefers that
[10:07] <charl> but even in irssi it sometimes fails me
[10:07] <theblazehen> Yeah. On quassel
[10:07] <charl> ah don't know it
[10:07] <charl> maybe there are some settings though
[10:07] <theblazehen> Nice mobile client
[10:07] <theblazehen> Nah, unless I maybe mess with the source
[10:08] <theblazehen> Wanna add auto reconnect anyway
[10:11] <charl> for example if i type k-tab i get kilos and not kbmonkey like i would have gotten if it was alphabetifc
[10:11] <Squirm> well
[10:11] <Squirm> I like XChat :P
[10:12] <charl> if i type s-tab i get Squirm and not sakhi
[10:12] <charl> quite handy
[10:12] <Kilos> ha i never tried that before
[10:12] <Kilos> charl  
[10:12] <charl> ah
[10:12] <Kilos> works on konversation it seems
[10:12] <charl> nice
[10:13] <Kilos> ya cool
[10:13] <Kilos> Maaz  seen thatgraemeguy
[10:13] <Maaz> Kilos: thatgraemeguy was last seen 1 day, 3 hours, 47 minutes and 12 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-10-19 23:26:23 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-10-20 00:32:17 PDT
[10:13] <Kilos> wonder what happened to him
[10:13] <Kilos> Maaz  seen inetpro  
[10:13] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 14 hours, 19 minutes and 37 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-10-20 12:54:21 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-10-20 06:33:58 PDT
[10:15] <charl> he was here yesterday evening Kilos 
[10:15] <Kilos> tgraeme?
[10:15] <Kilos> ai!
[10:15] <Kilos> i saw the pro yesterday complain about his networks
[10:15] <charl> no inetpro 
[10:16] <Kilos> inetpro  did you fix it??
[11:20] <inetpro> good mornings
[11:20] <inetpro> Kilos: I is here man
[11:22]  * inetpro just got lost somewhere in the ether
[11:26] <Kilos> good
[11:51] <Kilos> ai!
[12:10] <Vince-0> Kilos, !
[12:12] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[12:12] <Kilos> sorry was cooking
[12:21] <Vince-0> no problemo, IRC ain't goin nowhere
[12:23] <Kilos> lol
[12:26] <charl> hi Vince-0 
[12:26] <charl> hi inetpro 
[12:26] <magespawn> howdy all
[12:28] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[12:28] <magespawn> that was a long bbl
[12:29] <Kilos> lol yeah
[12:31] <inetpro> hi charl
[12:33] <magespawn> here is a question, can you run vlan tagging through unmanaged switch's? 
[12:50] <Vince-0> haai charl
[12:55] <theblazehen> magespawn: I assume you can running, but just not create the tags, through them? At least from what I understand
[12:55] <theblazehen> can run*
[12:56] <magespawn> yup that is what i have been reading so far
[12:56]  * Squirm looks around
[12:56] <theblazehen> hi Squirm
[12:57] <theblazehen> heh, and that was just from me reading the ops school thing last december...
[12:57] <theblazehen> http://www.opsschool.org/en/latest/ quite nice
[13:49] <charl> that looks great theblazehen 
[14:03] <somaunn> Hello Guys
[14:03] <somaunn> Hello Kilos
[14:03] <somaunn> Hello inetpro
[14:03] <somaunn> hello superfly
[14:04] <somaunn> hello tumbleweed
[14:07] <Kilos> hi somaunn  
[14:07] <Kilos> you sound desperate
[14:07] <Kilos> what broke
[14:09] <somaunn> nothing
[14:10] <somaunn> lol ... Kilos
[14:10] <somaunn> why are you saying that ?
[14:10] <Kilos> lol because you greeting us in turn
[14:10] <Kilos> all good there somaunn  ?
[14:11] <Kilos> i missed you yesterday, sorry, was outside i think
[14:11] <somaunn> i see 
[14:12] <somaunn> Kilos: all good just enjoying KDE 5 on fedora 21 alpha
[14:12] <somaunn> found it actually faster and better than i've seen up to now from KDE team
[14:12] <Kilos> im on kde as well. the one thats in kubuntu 14.04
[14:13] <somaunn> okay 
[14:13] <somaunn> you should try KDE 5 it's really good 
[14:13] <Kilos> i like it
[14:14] <Kilos> found some interesting things to do to it
[14:14] <Kilos> Maaz  google 20 cool thinks to do after installing kubuntu
[14:14] <somaunn> KDE 5 is even better than the old ones, use less memory from what i've seen up to now 
[14:14] <Maaz> Kilos: "20 cool things to do after installing Kubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr" http://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/ :: "20 things to do after installing Linux Mint 17 Qiana Cinnamon" http://www.binarytides.com/better-linux-mint-17-cinnamon/ :: "Things to do after installing Kubuntu - The Mukt" http://www.themukt.com/2014/09/17/10-things-installing-kubuntu/ ::
[14:14] <Maaz> "Help For Linux: 7 Things to Do After Installing Kubuntu & KDE in ..." http://helpforlin…
[14:14] <Kilos> oh you on fedora
[14:15] <Kilos> might still work some of those tips
[14:15] <somaunn> was expecting to see a mercedes things (massive memory usage) but nothing like that since days
[14:15] <somaunn> yeah Kilos i'm on fedora
[14:15] <Kilos> even give dolphin root powers
[14:15] <Kilos> very lekker
[14:16] <Kilos> you okes with your toffee OS
[14:16] <somaunn> yah u said so very lekker
[14:16] <Kilos> sounds like you sucking toffees with yum this and yum that
[14:17] <somaunn> toffee OS ??
[14:17] <Kilos> fedora
[14:17] <Kilos> haha
[14:17] <somaunn> lol that's ... lol
[14:17] <somaunn> i actually use dnf which is even better and faster but still need to wait the teams make it work easily like yum
[14:24] <somaunn> can't get this command sudo yum install kde5-\* to work 
[14:24] <somaunn> someone to help ?
[14:26] <Kilos> lets ask Squirm  he is the fedora man
[14:26] <somaunn> okay
[14:26] <somaunn> Squirm: have you got any solution to get this kde 5 install command to work ?
[14:27] <Squirm> I'm not a fedora man :/
[14:27] <Squirm> I know RH
[14:27] <Squirm> with Gome 2
[14:27] <somaunn> okay i see
[14:27] <Kilos> oh 
[14:27] <Kilos> 0oooops
[14:27] <Squirm> somaunn: what if you leave out the "\" ?
[14:27] <somaunn> let me see
[14:28] <somaunn> result : No package kde5-* available.
[14:28] <magespawn> why the -* at the end?
[14:29] <magespawn> why not yum install kde5
[14:29] <somaunn> magespawn: never tried that because i've done this one first sudo yum install plasma5
[14:30] <somaunn> but it's look like not all is install but only plasma related stuffs
[14:31] <Kilos> does that thing use dpkg too?
[14:32] <somaunn> Kilos: not, it uses rpm
[14:36] <Squirm> somaunn: maybe kde5*
[14:37] <Kilos> Maaz  define rpm
[14:37] <Maaz> Kilos: rpm n 1: rate of revolution of a motor; "the engine was doing 6000 revs" [syn: {revolutions per minute}, {rpm}, {rev}], RPM Radio Packet Modem (Motorola) , RPM Redhat Package Manager (Linux) , RPM Remote Port Module (Ascend)
[14:37] <Squirm> but surely you would want to install the main package and that will install dependencies 
[14:37] <Squirm> Kilos: it's the same as dep
[14:37] <Squirm> deb
[14:37] <Squirm> well, same thing. it's just a package
[14:37] <Kilos> not the same deb works
[14:38] <Squirm> it does the same thing as a debian package
[14:38] <Kilos> somaunn  is kde5 not part of the release you are running
[14:38] <Kilos> im teasing man
[14:38] <Kilos> we just reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[14:39] <Squirm> oh, I see there was meant to me a comma in there
[14:39] <Squirm> somaunn: did you update after you added the repo?
[14:39] <Squirm> or did it update
[14:40] <Squirm> yum update
[14:40] <Squirm> It needs to download the package lists from the repo's you would have added
[14:40] <somaunn> this is what i did http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kde-plasma-5-on-fedora-20-and-fedora-21-rawhide/
[14:41] <Squirm> I know
[14:41] <Squirm> but did it update
[14:41] <Squirm> try `yum update`
[14:41] <somaunn> Squirm: yeah i did with both Yum and dnf
[14:41] <Squirm> hmm
[14:41] <Squirm> and if you `yum search kde5`, does it bring up packages?
[14:43] <somaunn> Squirm: yes it does
[14:46] <somaunn> Squirm: I have removed 4 sources from dvratil but kept the one from copr
[14:46] <somaunn> Squirm: now I get some update for plasma 5
[14:49] <somaunn> yet it's only 8.2 M
[14:49] <somaunn> but let see what i get after that's done
[15:00] <somaunn> at this stage i can't understand how come dnf perform better than Yum since it's a new alternative which is not even massively used by peoples
[15:00] <somaunn> that's ... crazy
[15:17] <somaunn> nothing to do 
[15:18] <somaunn> Squirm: thanks for help
[15:18] <somaunn> will let it as it
[15:18] <somaunn> until something new comes on the web
[15:35] <somaunn> Squirm: it's now working better, I've found a work arround
[15:35] <somaunn> using the unstable mirror from dvratil 
[15:35] <somaunn> yet it's the unstable thing but it's worx and it's a good experience for me 
[15:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:06] <Squirm> ok
[17:06] <Squirm> 'lo
[17:24] <magespawn> brb just going up to my room
[17:39] <Kilos> we got thunder and lightning, hopefully rain will follow
[17:39] <Kilos> lots and lots
[17:44] <charl> good evening
[17:45] <Kilos> hi charl  
[18:01] <magespawn> howdy all
[18:16] <charl> hi Kilos
[18:17] <Kilos> hi mage
[18:17] <Kilos> you take long to get upstairs hey
[18:18] <Kilos> manual crank handle lifts?
[18:19] <Kilos> aw he left
[18:20] <Kilos> wb magespawn  what happened
[18:21] <magespawn> hey bad wifi signal
[18:21] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:21] <Kilos> complain to management
[18:21] <Kilos> offer to sort it
[18:21] <Kilos> you the wifi man
[18:22] <magespawn> i would be the person to complain to
[18:22] <Kilos> rofl
[18:23] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[18:23] <theblazehen> Hi
[18:23] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:24] <magespawn> hi superfly 
[18:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:50] <superfly> hi magespawn
[20:47] <charl> nn all