[00:00] <celroc> bella: I think squid22's got a good suggestion there.  You may want to try that first, actually
[00:00] <Duke__> ever used the mailutils and mail command?
[00:00] <bella> ok thanks let me try it
[00:02] <bella> when doing "sudo apt-get update" it says: 'dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run sudo dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem
[00:03] <k1l_> bella: do that
[00:03] <celroc> bella: Ah, okay, sometimes that happens when the computer freezes during an update.  Type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in the terminal and then it should guide you through the process
[00:04] <wjtaylor> how can I get the motherboard info? Is there a command to read the make/model?
[00:04] <1JTAAQU5Y> brandon@Tobasco:~$
[00:04] <bella> ok celroc
[00:05] <k1l_> wjtaylor: "lshw"
[00:05] <celroc> Avenger_: Well, it looks like someone got their TobascoSauce :-D
[00:05] <Avenger_> celroc : i am very happy now. thank you. my dad says thnk you too.
[00:06] <celroc> Avenger_:  You're both very welcome, but Bashing-om did most of it ;-)
[00:06] <Bashing-om> Avenger_: Welcome to ubuntu system administration.
[00:06] <Avenger_> Bashing-om : is there anything you need sir?
[00:06] <wjtaylor> kll_ do I need a specific package for this?
[00:07] <Bashing-om> Avenger_: "  is there anything you need sir? " -> nope, I am blessed.
[00:07] <celroc> Avenger_: Kind of you to offer to help him back :-)
[00:07] <Avenger_> Bashing-om : the lord has given you a gift sir.
[00:08] <bella> ok "sudo dpkg --configure -a" is done. is there anything else i need to do?
[00:08] <k1l_> wjtaylor: did you run it in terminal?
[00:08] <celroc> bella: Run "apt-get -f install" again, it should finish this time ;-)
[00:09] <k1l_> bella: run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you got all updates now
[00:09] <Bashing-om> Avenger_: Perhaps so. I try. But oft times ,, fall far short of glory.
[00:10] <celroc> Bashing-om: Everyone does.  Thankfully, Jesus gave us a merciful gift :-)
[00:11] <bella> apt-get -f install is not working. doing apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade now
[00:13] <Bashing-om> celroc: Indeed :))
[00:17] <Ben_drowned> Need help with TLP: Every time I use the "STOP_CHARGE_THRESH_BAT0=80" on the /etc/default/tlp config file, my battery just stops charging no matter what %. I commented the line #START_CHARGE_THRESH_BAT0=55 but no effect, and i have no clue whats causing this. If I comment the STOP_CHARGE line and reboot, battery still wont charge, but if i use the command " tlp fullcharge" then its back to normal. Any help is appreciated.
[00:18] <Ben_drowned> (lenovo x200 running 14.04 | kernel 3.13.0-38
[00:18] <Avenger_> i want to learn so much about linux ubuntu so that one day i can help people and create useful stuff with it.
[00:19] <Avenger_> i am very new to linux and i just wanted to be different so i am running linux ubuntu now.
[00:19] <celroc> Avenger_: Give yourself time and take it in appropriately sized steps.  You'll get used to it in time :-)
[00:20] <celroc> Avenger_: Your willingness to use the command-line ("Terminal") is a good sign :-)
[00:20] <Avenger_> celroc : for now i will order a website hosting plan and a domain. then i will create a website with joomla and call it brandons brain repository.
[00:20] <Avenger_> celroc : terminal is the best. i feel like sich a man whenever i type commands to it
[00:20] <celroc> Avenger_: Neat.  What kind of site will it be?
[00:21] <kaddi> the command-line is dope :)
[00:21] <daftykins> Avenger_: that's nice and all, but this channel is for ubuntu support questions only. you're welcome to take general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic though
[00:21] <celroc> Avenger_: I like to hear that about the command line.  You'll find it to be an incredibly powerful, beastly tool once you get the hang of it.
[00:21] <Avenger_> celroc : i think it will be about my quest to learning linux ubuntu. i will post and write about things that have helped me along the way.
[00:21] <yusuf1> yup Avenger_ need try terminal :v im new also, but i use linux since a  7 years ago :3
[00:21] <Ben_drowned> anyone? for TLP help?
[00:21] <yusuf1> just regular usage (browsing , gaming, etc)
[00:22] <LMNOP> the terminal is so boss
[00:22] <LMNOP> useing it all the tiem..
[00:22] <yusuf1> i have no idea with TLP Ben_drowned :3
[00:23] <Ben_drowned> oh :( well thx for replying yusuf1 :)
[00:23] <LMNOP> wuts tlp
[00:24] <Ben_drowned> advanced power management for thinkpads LMNOP
[00:24] <LMNOP> hmm okay i dunno
[00:27] <LMNOP> Ben_drowned, is it a well supported model or is a new one
[00:46] <blueingress> When do we have emacs 24.4 for ubuntu.?
[00:46] <k1l_> !info emacs
[00:46] <twirck-user-2084> #mac
[00:48] <k1l_> blueingress: well, emacs 24 is the version right now iirc
[00:49] <k1l_> blueingress: and, 24.4 was released yesterday. if you see when the freezes were for the past releases that is a clear answer
[00:54] <blueingress> k1l_, want to try it now...
[00:55] <k1l_> blueingress: see if there is a PPA already or a .deb package or compile it yourself
[00:56] <yusuf1> what is emacs? some editor? i always using vim btw :3
[00:59] <dreki> My computer seems to be suddenly running more slowly than usual at times. I have checked the CPU, RAM  and disk usage but those are normal. What could I look for next?
[01:00] <tecywiz121> Hey. In 14.04, I have fetchmail configured to deliver mail to dovecot through LMTP. Problem is, fetchmail is starting before dovecot. I figure I can do something with upstart, but I don't know how to get started. Anyone?
[01:00] <climbup> dreki: are you familiar with the program "top"?
[01:00] <blueingress> yusuf1, I used vim for 15 years, But I am using emacs more and more
[01:00] <climbup> you could leave it running and watch the highest culprits in any category
[01:01] <dreki> climbup: I was using htop to see my processor and memory usage.  I know what top is but haven't used it
[01:03] <climbup> dreki: htop will do the trick, too. the key is just to have it open while you're experiencing the slowness
[01:03] <yusuf1> tecywiz121: you can use upstart,
[01:03] <climbup> if you sort the process list by CPU usage descending, whatever's on top is likely the culprit
[01:06] <yusuf1> tecywiz121: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8608667/
[01:06] <yusuf1> the pre-start script will check the process run or not before the main script running
[01:07] <dreki> climbup: thanks for your help
[01:09] <tecywiz121> yusuf1, It looks like fetchmail is using a different format of script, it's located in /etc/init.d/fetchmail
[01:10] <dreki> climbup: I don't have any processes that use a lot of CPU or memory but I have one that Htop highlights in yellow for a few seconds at a time. I looked online to see what it means when a process is highlighted in yellow but can't find anything.
[01:12] <yusuf1> ohh... tecywiz121, you mush explore the init.d/fetchmail script first, or pre-start will check the output of /etc/init.d/fetchmail status (if available) , or replace the init.d script with upstart (a little bit tricky but not difficult)
[01:14] <yusuf1> or you can add script in dovecot upstart :D and prevent fetchmail auto start when the server boot up:D
[01:15] <ZZRMike> will mv move a file that's currently open in a process?
[01:18] <tecywiz121> yusuf1, So add a "start on" line to /etc/init/dovecot.conf?
[01:18] <tecywiz121> Sorry, I'm really not familiar with how the boot process works :P
[01:20] <B0bsF1sh> if I experience read-error on swap-device followed by kernel panics twice a week running 12.04 LTS on VirtualBox - would it likely be something in my Ubuntu installation or VirtualBox?
[01:23] <yusuf1> i don't know tecywiz121 exactly, if there are upstart script for dovecot, maybe you can add the pre-start script section
[01:24] <yusuf1> so the dovecot will execute the pre-start script first before running dovecot
[01:24] <alashkham> https://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2012/09/pngyTdm25fXBd.png
[01:24] <yusuf1> i'm new also in upstart, just learn a 2 weeks ago :D tecywiz121
[01:25] <alashkham> lines like these appear whenever using 3d acceleration
[01:25] <tecywiz121> yusuf1, Cool, I'll do a little digging around. Thanks so much!
[01:25] <alashkham> whether in Unity or Gnome
[01:26] <alashkham> my graphics card is Radeon Xpress 1250
[01:26] <climbup> dreki: what's the process name?
[01:26] <alashkham> it supports 3d acceleration
[01:27] <ra> hi all
[01:28] <squinty> B0bsF1sh:  might also want to ask in #vbox channel which is also here on the freenode irc network
[01:30] <leadership> UNBUNTU IS A FAD
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[01:30] <leadership> UNBUNTU IS A FAD
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[01:35] <dreki> why?
[01:36] <larryboots> evolution only seems to download my messages from today.  how can i get older messages also?
[01:36] <dreki> wrong channel...
[01:36] <linux_dream> hi guys, can someone help my friend who tried to install Ubuntu 14.04, he is using a RAID laptop
[01:37] <linux_dream> he installed the OS on a partition, but bootloader was installed to sda
[01:37] <linux_dream> and now he cannot boot windows nor ubuntu
[01:38] <ObrienDave> linux_dream, boot system with a live DVD/CD
[01:38] <linux_dream> yeah he is there
[01:38] <linux_dream> I've read on the web that he must install grub on his RAID  Ubuntu partition or so..
[01:39] <linux_dream> but it's not working for some reason
[01:39]  * ObrienDave know nothing about RAID installs
[01:40] <linux_dream> I see.... anyone else can help?
[01:40] <linux_dream> thanks ObrienDave
[01:40]  * Corey84 wishes the little he did he could forget lol
[01:41] <Corey84> LinusTorvaldII, ObrienDave the issue is ?   can try but admittedly im not expert
[01:41] <Corey84> linux_dream, ^
[01:42] <linux_dream> the issue is my friend who is trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on his laptop (RAID)
[01:42] <Bashing-om> !raid | linux_dream , best i recall grub installs to partitions on all drives::
[01:42] <linux_dream> he has windows 7 and he just installed Ubuntu 14.04
[01:42] <linux_dream> but he was asked where to install bootloader... and he chose sda
[01:43] <linux_dream> because no other choice were there or so.  and now he cannot boot windows nor ubuntu
[01:43] <daftykins> linux_dream: what's providing the RAID? intel chipset?
[01:43] <linux_dream> hmm he didn't tell me
[01:44] <Bashing-om> linux_dream: Most levels of raid require a /boot partition, and grub installed to each of the disk's /boot partitions.
[01:44] <linux_dream> i want him to come here
[01:44] <linux_dream> i need a link from web
[01:44] <LinusTorvaldII> hello did someone ask me a question
[01:44] <tracyone> ==!
[01:45] <Corey84> on a fedora box but set to accept raid http://ur1.ca/ig71u
[01:45] <Corey84> see the seperate /boot/
[01:45] <daftykins> linux_dream: a link for what...
[01:46] <Corey84> LinusTorvaldII,   nick complete fail sorry
[01:46] <LinusTorvaldII> i think he needs to install grub
[01:46] <linux_dream> for him to connect to IRC  #ubuntu
[01:46] <linux_dream> from firefox
[01:46] <LinusTorvaldII> ok se ya
[01:46] <Corey84> to the raid master tho right /
[01:46] <linux_dream> he's coming here
[01:46] <Corey84> linux_dream, webchat.freenode.net/#ubuntu
[01:47] <linux_dream> thanks a lot
[01:47] <Corey84> if not on a live or other pc
[01:47] <linux_dream> he's on a live cd
[01:47] <Corey84> can he load a live at least (if you know)
[01:47] <linux_dream> (via usb)
[01:48] <linux_dream> ok I think he's here now
[01:48] <Corey84> the nick ?
[01:48] <linux_dream> Matterwave
[01:48] <Matterwave> Hello
[01:49] <Corey84> Matterwave,    welcome understand you have a raid install issue that correct?
[01:49] <Matterwave> I am unable to boot either my windows 7 or ubuntu after upgrading to 14.04
[01:49] <daftykins> personally i don't think the Ubuntu install would've used a config compatible with whatever RAID Windows was using
[01:49] <Matterwave> I don't know if it has to do with raid, I am not familiar with how all this works well enough to understand if that's the issue
[01:50] <daftykins> telling us the system type and what RAID setup it had would be a good starting point
[01:50] <daftykins> (laptop/desktop - make + model, etc)
[01:50] <Matterwave> What I can say is I had previously installed 12.10 and dual booted with windows 7. I installed 14.04 where 12.10 was, and now when I start up my computer, grub starts, I click "ubuntu" and then I get a black screen, and then an error
[01:50] <Corey84> can you install pastebinit then provide the output link from this in a terminal (from the live)   (lsblk-fm ; sudo parted -l ; locate mdadm)|pastebinit
[01:50] <Corey84> pastebin the error too pls
[01:51] <Matterwave> I took a picture of the error
[01:51] <Matterwave> I can upload it
[01:51] <Corey84> brb   rebooting
[01:53] <Matterwave> my internet is quite slow
[01:53] <MarGul> I use xubuntu and I am trying the startup disk creator to create a windows 7 bootable USB stick for my roommate. I can browse for my .iso file but as soon as I select it nothing happens. I cant click make startup disk. Is there any other programs that do similar things?
[01:55] <squinty> MarGul:  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[01:55] <squinty> MarGul:  or check pendrivelinux.com  for other alternatives and tutorials
[01:56] <Matterwave> http://imgur.com/3sCbLwe
[01:56] <daftykins> MarGul: use 'dd' instead.
[01:56] <Matterwave> that's the error I get upon trying to boot ubuntu
[01:56] <MarGul> Thanks squinty, I will have a look at the first link you sent me first
[01:57] <daftykins> Matterwave: share the output of the above commands Corey84 asked for
[01:57] <Matterwave> ok, hold on
[01:58] <daftykins> Matterwave: you're familiar with pastebin sites yeah?
[01:59] <MarGul> daftykins: is this how you do it using 'dd'? http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-iso-to-a-usb-device
[01:59] <Matterwave> Yeah, I will paste-bin
[01:59] <Matterwave> http://pastebin.com/GxGjaCUf
[01:59] <daftykins> wow i'm horrified to see someone use the term 'burn' for USB devices :(
[02:00] <Sway> lol
[02:00]  * ObrienDave envisions smoking USB ports ;P
[02:00] <daftykins> MarGul: yep, have the flash drive formatted FAT prior to make sure, then it's as simple as "dd if=/path/to/windows.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M"
[02:01] <daftykins> where /dev/sdX is your flash drive.
[02:01] <MarGul> awesome! Thank you
[02:01] <ObrienDave> fat32
[02:01] <sjm> daftykins, why format it first if you're going to overwrite it with dd?
[02:01] <Matterwave> so I have no idea what to do now D:
[02:01] <daftykins> sjm: because reasons
[02:06] <Corey84> former / current unetbootin user   daftykins ?
[02:06] <daftykins> never
[02:06] <Corey84> standard behavior of such users lol hence why i asked
[02:07] <daftykins> Corey84: which part, is standard behaviour?
[02:07] <Corey84> format prior to dd  lol
[02:08] <linux_dream> so how can we help Matterwave?  He must install grub on the ubuntu partition?
[02:08] <daftykins> i've just seen a couple of wonky setups before, so felt like adding it into the mix
[02:08] <daftykins> i don't think it has anything to do with GRUB
[02:08] <linux_dream> he would have to mount Ubuntu's partition and install grub on it?
[02:08] <daftykins> but i don't personally get the /dev/mapper setups so i'm not touching that one with a barge pole :)
[02:09] <Corey84> wait missed the paste hes on /dev/mapper?
[02:09] <Matterwave> If you guys need the links again: Here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/GxGjaCUf and here's the error I get tryign to boot ubuntu: http://imgur.com/3sCbLwe
[02:09] <MarGul> daftykins: I go 'sudo dd if=/home/gullberg/Desktop/X17-24209.iso of=/dev/sdf1 bs=4M' and my terminal wont show me anything. Almost like it froze :(
[02:09] <daftykins> i'd mount the Ubuntu partition and compare the /etc/fstab file's UUIDs to the real UUIDs
[02:09] <daftykins> MarGul: yes dd doesn't give output
[02:09] <MarGul> So I just wait until I get the new line in my terminal? Thats when its done?
[02:09] <daftykins> MarGul: wait and it'll be done shortly, or switch to another terminal, work out the PID of 'dd', then run "kill -USR1 $PID"
[02:10] <daftykins> but, waiting would be easiest
[02:10] <Corey84> lsblk -fm  (notice the space ) pls re run
[02:10] <Corey84> jsut the lsblk -fm |pastebinit not the entirety
[02:11] <Matterwave> ok
[02:11] <Matterwave> http://pastebin.com/nNwzhNKU
[02:11] <Matterwave> This is lsblk -fm
[02:12] <Corey84> so BOTH drives are seen as the same not sure why but that is not helping
[02:13] <daftykins> Corey84: because RAID? :)
[02:13] <Corey84> no should be sepearte
[02:13] <daftykins> what do you mean?
[02:14] <Corey84> revisit the last paste see the uuids
[02:14] <Matterwave> I have really no idea how any of this is set up haha
[02:14] <daftykins> i don't see any UUIDs in any paste
[02:17] <Corey84> sorry about that ---  he needs uuids and doesn t have them is my point
[02:18] <Matterwave> I don't even know what a UUID is
[02:18] <linux_dream> so how do we fix that
[02:18] <linux_dream> he used to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 12.10 without any problems
[02:18] <Yrie> I wonder...
[02:19] <Yrie> !UUID
[02:19] <Matterwave> Yeah, I used to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 12.10. Now that I installed ubuntu 14.04 over ubuntu 12.10 I can no longer boot anything
[02:19] <Matterwave> other than using my flash drive
[02:20] <linux_dream> here is a similar problem I think....: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1559762
[02:21] <linux_dream> not sure if that help
[02:21] <Matterwave> Before I had it set up so that I got an option to boot either windows7 or ubuntu, before grub loaded, so that grub only loaded if I chose "ubuntu"
[02:21] <Matterwave> now, grub just loads from start-up without any previous windows
[02:21] <Matterwave> and it doesn't even have windows 7 as an option, only ubuntu, and advanced options and the like
[02:21] <Matterwave> after choosing ubuntu I get the black screen as mentioned above
[02:21] <daftykins> linux_dream: we don't really need you acting as counsel :)
[02:22] <linux_dream> ok
[02:22] <frib> i have a sony vaio with freshly installed ubuntu and it locks up when i connect a monitor w/VGA cable.  how can I fix this? thanks
[02:30] <Matterwave> so any ideas guys?
[02:30] <MarGul> daftykins: I ran dd and it said that it was successful. When I inspect my usb stick I can see that there has been files added. But when I try to start up the computer with my usb stick it wont show up in the bootorder. Probably meaning that it is not a bootable usb stick?
[02:32] <daftykins> MarGul: i'd use a one-time boot menu key if your system has one
[02:36] <Matterwave> nobody knows how to help me? T_T
[02:37] <MarGul> daftykins: No to sure what that means :/ . Allt the time before when I have done this I have just created the bootable usb stick and then the computer has recognized it. when i go fdisk -l it says that my usb stick is bootable
[02:38] <daftykins> MarGul: what kind of computer is this? laptop? make+ model?
[02:39] <MarGul> No it is a desktop, And it is a ASUS running F2 A85-M Pro as a motherboard
[02:41] <EsoRottica> Where should I report some spam on launchpad?
[02:46] <Zephyr1139> How do I preinstall proprietary nvidia drivers on a livecd (using UCK)?
[02:50] <Zephyr1139> How do I pre-install a wireless broadcom driver (wl.ko) on a livecd (using UCK)?
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[02:56] <Zephyr1139> Has anybody here ever used UCK?
[02:58] <Zephyr1139> Has anybody here ever created a custom liveCD?
[03:02] <arda> hello, anyone can help me?
[03:02] <Zephyr1139> arda, what is up?
[03:03] <arda> I have Lenovo G410
[03:03] <arda> and dual graphich, Intel HD and AMD RADEON
[03:03] <arda> 85xx
[03:04] <arda> Zephyr1139:
[03:04] <Zephyr1139> arda, install problems?
[03:04] <arda> How to install GPU AMD  driver?
[03:04] <arda> Yeah...
[03:05] <arda> I can't install AMD driver
[03:06] <Zephyr1139> I'm struggling with a similar issue trying to get a nVidia driver installed.
[03:06] <Bashing-om> arda: Hybrid graphics; this may be of interest: https://github.com/beidl/amd-indicator .
[03:06] <Zephyr1139> arda, where you able to install Ubuntu at all?
[03:08] <arda> I install to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[03:13] <arda> Heloo
[03:17] <MintNixs> ello
[03:17] <MintNixs> :)
[03:18] <Zephyr1139> arda, are you able to drop into a terminal by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F2 ?
[03:19] <MintNixs> iclrl+alt t
[03:20] <MintNixs> ctrl+alt+t
[03:28] <o11c> okay, proper warning, I'm kind of pissed off right now
[03:28] <o11c> but how does a single maintainer managed to mess up two packages this badly?
[03:28] <o11c> gdb cannot be used with c++ in Trusty
[03:33] <o11c> even after fixing the obvious problem in libstdc++.so.6.0.19-gdb.py, the printers.py file contains raise ValueError, "Cannot find type %s::%s" % (str(orig), name)
[03:33] <o11c> which is python2 syntax
[03:34] <o11c> but the same developer switched gdb use python3
[03:34] <o11c> same ubuntu maintainer I mean
[03:35] <blazingpossum> hello
[03:35] <Artemis3v> o11c, is the debian package the same?
[03:36] <blazingpossum> anyone proficient with gpg in the command line?
[03:37] <blazingpossum> hi jeiworth
[03:37] <o11c> Artemis3v: Debian package told doko to gtfo and reverted to python2
[03:37] <jeiworth> hey blazingpossum
[03:37] <arda> Hello I install AMD DRiver from  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka5gBMlo-zo
[03:38] <blazingpossum> jeiworth how do i highlight a message like that?
[03:38] <lumberjackin> i install buts
[03:38] <o11c> (I think making gdb use python3 is a foolish decision, since it breaks all 3rd-party scripts and it is often impossible to rewrite them, but I can deal with it if at least the whole OS agrees on what version it is!!!)
[03:38] <jeiworth> blazingpossum, like what?
[03:38] <arda> But i see error here http://postimg.org/image/rmgm7qbrd/
[03:38] <o11c> blazingpossum: it highlights when people say your name
[03:38] <arda> Lenovo G410
[03:38] <blazingpossum> ohhhh
[03:39] <blazingpossum> o11c thanks
[03:39] <o11c> arda: did you install the ubuntu package from 'restricted', or the package from amd's website? I'm not going to watch a video
[03:40] <jeiworth> blazingpossum, ;)
[03:41] <blazingpossum> jeiworth do you use gpg at all?
[03:41] <jeiworth> soooo after upgrading to 14.10 i have a strange problem with the context menus of the menu-bar, they are all transparent and don't show anything... anyone has experienced something like that?
[03:41] <jeiworth> blazingpossum, yes, mostly for signing
[03:42] <arda> o11c: I have tried before, but experienced the same problem
[03:42] <jeiworth> all other context menus are fine... tried resetting to standard theme but no show :(
[03:43] <o11c> arda: that does not answer my question
[03:45] <arda> o11c: sebelumnya saya menginstall driver AMD .run dari website namun mengalami kesalahan yang sama
[03:45] <ahsm> whats up homie g's
[03:46] <o11c> arda: um, that wasn't english
[03:46] <o11c> arda: but if you install from the amd website even once you permanently break ubuntu, so you have to reinstall it from the CD or whatever
[03:49] <Zephyr1139> arda, I watched the video.  Did you do everything he described from a terminal session?
[03:50] <ahsm> do any of u guys have ccna?
[03:51] <jeiworth> !beta
[03:51] <rww> !ot | ahsm
[03:51] <arda> Zephyr1139: yap
[03:51] <jeiworth> hmm what was the channel for pre-release again...?
[03:52] <rww> jeiworth: #ubuntu+1
[03:52] <jeiworth> rww, ah yes, thanks
[03:53] <Zephyr1139> arda, and rebooting didn't resolve? Perhaps your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is still configured for your mainboard GPU.
[03:54] <arda> Zephyr1139: ok I try it
[03:56] <Zephyr1139> arda, (I know you just left) perhaps the "sudo amdconfig --initial" command didn't prune that file.
[03:56] <bmelcher84> hello everyone
[03:57] <bmelcher84> trying to mount a raid5, anyone know much about this?
[03:57] <agent_white> Evenin'
[03:57] <bmelcher84> ello white
[03:58] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, is it mdraid or hw?
[03:58] <bmelcher84> in disk utility, i can see the sata host adapter and it says raid5 on it, and below it are the 4 500gb harddrives
[03:58] <bmelcher84> hw
[03:58] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: hw*
[03:59] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, sorry, I meant the sata-adapter is hardware-raid or was it set-up as software-rais (mdraid)?
[04:00] <bmelcher84> hardware
[04:00] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, and the raid is configured in the adapter bios but you see the single disks in the OS?
[04:01] <bmelcher84> correct
[04:01] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, hmm did it work before?
[04:02] <bmelcher84> yes, it was working on windows and i am trying to recover the data with a live boot ubuntu
[04:02] <bmelcher84> so basically trying to mount it
[04:02] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, ok, what adaptor do you have?
[04:03] <jeiworth> perhaps you need an additional firmware package....
[04:03] <bmelcher84> it says ati sb7x0/sb8x0/sb9x0 sata controller raid5 mode
[04:03] <bmelcher84> or do you need the info from the bios?
[04:04] <bmelcher84> or post i mean
[04:04] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, coud be helpfull, let me check with the allmighty google
[04:05] <bmelcher84> i tried the google foo earlier and started going in a circle, so thought i would poke my head in here for a little
[04:06] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, hehe
[04:06] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: i need to remember to quote your name as i talk to you
[04:09] <bubbasaures> bmelcher84, You can tab complete nicks.
[04:09] <bmelcher84> bubbasaures: :)
[04:09] <bmelcher84> bubbasaures: I just forget to :p
[04:12] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: so im basically confused on how to mount this thing... I feel that I am missing something here
[04:12] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, ok it seems to be a chip that is emulating a hw raid but is actually a sw raid
[04:12] <wlxmhls1> hi
[04:13] <bmelcher84> hm
[04:13] <bmelcher84> okay
[04:14] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: so how would I go about mounting this raid
[04:14] <daftykins> !fakeraid
[04:16] <jeiworth> good point daftykins
[04:16] <jeiworth> also, install mdadm
[04:16] <bjrohan> I am starting a program from the command line, which starts, then crashes, the terminal captures the error, but it is so long I can't scroll to the top to get it all, how do I pipe the results to a file?
[04:17] <bmelcher84> daftykins: the read looks like it wants to setup a raid from scratch, not just mount an existing one...
[04:17] <bmelcher84> or i could be missing something here
[04:17] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: okay, 1 sec
[04:17] <daftykins> bmelcher84: the last link was the most relevant
[04:17] <jeiworth> bjrohan, 2>&1 /path/to/file
[04:18] <bmelcher84> daftykins: thats the one i read
[04:19] <bjrohan> jeiworth: so ./DraftSight 2>&1 /home/bjrohan/Draft_Error
[04:19] <jeiworth> bjrohan, if you just want to pipe the error output it's <command> 2> /path/to/file
[04:20] <bjrohan> ok
[04:20] <jeiworth> the &1 just adds all output from the script to the output file
[04:20] <jeiworth> or, mor correct, standard out
[04:21] <bjrohan> jeiworth: gotcha, I did that, and tried to take the pipe as an input file
[04:22] <Steven-mobile> I'm installing ubuntu on an unallocated half of my HD. The other half has win7pro. Ubuntu installation doesn't give me the option to install side-by-side windows. did I do something wrong?
[04:23] <daftykins> Steven-mobile: sounds like Windows is installed in either legacy or EFI mode and you may have booted ubuntu in the other, preventing it from detecting it
[04:23] <ss__> dfs
[04:23] <daftykins> !uefi | Steven-mobile have a read here to confirm
[04:23] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: i am running a live boot, and i am getting errors with install mdadm
[04:24] <bmelcher84> it wants to install postfix but it says it cant intall it
[04:24] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, I suppose to get that mpunted you would have to manually configure the raid5 disks first
[04:24] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: that wont break the raid?
[04:24] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, ok, so you are trying to rescue from a live-cd?
[04:24] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: I have to make sure not to do that, as the data is very important
[04:24] <Steven-mobile> Thanks daftykins, ubottu
[04:24] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: yes
[04:25] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, hmm can you try to run the command mdadm from console, just to see if it's provided?
[04:26] <bmelcher84> i tried, its not there
[04:26] <jeiworth> :/
[04:27] <bmelcher84> i tried apt get update and it keeps failing at the end with the last 5 places to update and says 404 not found 91.189.91.15 80
[04:27] <bmelcher84> maybe apt-get isnt updating all the way
[04:27] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, it's probably because you burnt it on a USB as CD, which is read-only
[04:28] <bmelcher84> well shiet
[04:28] <bmelcher84> lol
[04:28] <bmelcher84> durr
[04:28] <jeiworth> iso9660 file system ;)
[04:28] <bmelcher84> hmm
[04:29] <jeiworth> you could try to make a real install of ubuntu on a USB to have an upgradable system
[04:29] <jeiworth> but that takes time
[04:29] <bmelcher84> yeah, seems like there would be a way to bypass this some how
[04:29] <jeiworth> on the other hand, you'd have a decent rescue system
[04:29] <bmelcher84> true
[04:29] <bmelcher84> I will do that in a few days
[04:30] <squinty> unetbootin + livedvd iso +persistance
[04:30] <bmelcher84> gonna try and make it by with live boot first
[04:30] <bmelcher84> maybe i can mnt a fake drive in memory?
[04:30] <bmelcher84> or maybe that is going backwards
[04:30] <bmelcher84> wait
[04:31] <bmelcher84> actually i installed skype earlier on this thing, how was that possible?
[04:31] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, true, but will obviously not be persistent, next reboot all is gone
[04:31] <bmelcher84> true
[04:31] <bmelcher84> which is okay for now jeiworth
[04:32] <squinty> fwiw, i can log onto 91.189.91.15 here with web browser.  no 404
[04:32] <bmelcher84> odd
[04:32] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, I know, I have also been able to install some things on live usb but some things not, not sure what is the restriction there
[04:33] <bmelcher84> i see
[04:33] <jeiworth> I suppose it's a space issue...
[04:34] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: would you mind poking around for a second with teamviewer
[04:34] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, anyway, it's always good to have a full system on a decent sized usb for any eventuality ;)
[04:34] <bmelcher84> im not sure thats it, mdadm is only 4oookb
[04:34] <bmelcher84> yeah, i think i will do that next!
[04:35] <jeiworth> bmelcher84, ok, but no guarantees
[04:35] <bmelcher84> i feel its something simple and im just missing somehting
[04:35] <bmelcher84> ofcourse
[04:38] <bmelcher84> so even if i did have a full installed system, how would i take a raid on another computer and recover it on the fully isntalled system? wouldn't that break the raid if the raid was setup on another system?
[04:43] <ss__> S4
[04:44] <ss__> whether there is a person had play lol
[04:44] <ss__> ?
[04:45] <DenBeiren> anyone around that knows something purging old kernels?
[04:45] <Tim_Miller> use a big hammer?
[04:46] <DenBeiren> i tried a glass hammer,.. didn’t work :-)
[04:47] <Steven-mobile> im getting errors asking me if /dev/sdb contains GPT partition table while im trying to add an EFI partiton. Would it just be easier for me to just add a partition table with livecd gparted then install windows7pro? sorry, I'm just totally lost
[04:48] <squinty> DenBeiren:  personally I just use the Synaptic package manager to remove them.   do a search for   linux-image   in synaptic package manager to see which ones are currently installed
[04:49] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[04:49] <Tim_Miller> i cannot get xubuntu to connect to the internet
[04:50] <DenBeiren> squinty: and bubbasaures , i’m getting errors purging the old ones (it’s a serverversion)
[04:50] <Tim_Miller> its connected to the network
[04:50] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, pastebin your work.
[04:51] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, What ubuntu release is this?
[04:51] <DenBeiren> http://pastie.org/9664330
[04:51] <DenBeiren> 14.04
[04:52] <DenBeiren> http://pastie.org/9664331
[04:53] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, Did you try to install the 3.16 and it did not finish...etc, in other words does a update/upgrade show anything broken or other errors?
[04:54] <bukai> Hi. I am currently on Ubuntu 12.04, and I need to upgrade it to the latest version. How can I do it from the terminal?
[04:55] <satelite> just tried to install openjdk7 (running version 14.04 of ubuntu), and i have seen an error related to this file path pop up quire a few times at this point: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/java, anyone know what it means? i havent found anything meaningful to me yet while searching online
[04:55] <bean1020> does anyone know if it is possible to create a recovery partition for ubuntu
[04:55] <bubbasaures> !do-release
[04:55] <DenBeiren> bubbasaures: there has indeed been an issue,.. the /boot was 99% full and i didn’t notice
[04:56] <bubbasaures> bukai, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[04:56] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, This a boot partition full?
[04:56] <DenBeiren> bubbasaures: updating/upgrading now,.. paste follows
[04:57] <DenBeiren> yes,.. 98% or sthing, that why i wanted to purge some old ones
[04:58] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, Has to be room, if you're broke cause of no room than removing is different than a command at times.
[04:59] <DenBeiren> uhu,.. where can i get info on that?
[04:59] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, that is last cause act, so it would help if we got down to facts here however.
[05:00] <DenBeiren> i don’t quite understand (not native english) last couse act :s
[05:01] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, Last thing you do only if you have to.
[05:02] <bubbasaures> And not advice that is pertinent yet.
[05:02] <DenBeiren> ok,.. where should i go from here now to solve the issue?
[05:02] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, You have not clearly outlined your situation to be honest, not sure to be honest.
[05:03] <DenBeiren> ok,.. i’ll try to clarify,..
[05:06] <DenBeiren> i’m running 14.04 server, /boot is 100% full (i noticed it filling up too late) i tried to purge the old ones using sudo apt get purge „oldest kernel”
[05:07] <DenBeiren> then i get the errors stated in this paste: http://pastie.org/9664331
[05:07] <squinty> DenBeiren:  maybe a read of  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[05:08] <bjrohan> How do I set a path variable in ubuntu 14.04 so that it is persistent
[05:08] <bjrohan> the program I wish to add is /usr/brlcad/bin/dxf-g
[05:08] <bubbasaures> DenBeiren, Try this  if your not using the 3.2 kernels sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-3.2.0-61-generic linux-image-3.2.0-63-generic linux-image-3.2.0-64-generic linux-image-3.2.0-65-generic linux-image-3.2.0-67-generic
[05:09] <DenBeiren> i’ll try the „autoremove” commands,..
[05:24] <owen1> from some reason i don't have internet on my desktop. got the cable connected but ifconfig doesn't show me eth0
[05:26] <Syne> owen1: What's the output of sudo lspci?
[05:29] <Tim_Miller> i am having the same problem
[05:29] <Tim_Miller> i can even ping the computer and other computers
[05:29] <Tim_Miller> but no internet
[05:30] <WJB> Hey can i ask a crontab ? on here?
[05:31] <owen1> Syne: i see Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5723 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10(
[05:32] <cLoCkWiSe> test
[05:32] <cLoCkWiSe> test
[05:33] <cLoCkWiSe> whois
[05:34] <Tim_Miller> on mine i'm getting ethernet controller : 3Com corportation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 24)
[05:35] <cLoCkWiSe> i am using irssi
[05:35] <n0vice> i need help please. I have ubuntu 12.04 as thge only operating system on my pc. I want to go back to windows 7 however when i put the win7 cd in there is no bios at all and it does not auto run
[05:35] <cLoCkWiSe> there is a bios novie
[05:36] <cLoCkWiSe> you must keep pressing f2 or delete
[05:36] <cLoCkWiSe> when you first power on
[05:36] <cLoCkWiSe> just keep pressing them
[05:36] <n0vice> ok brb i will try
[05:36] <cLoCkWiSe> do you have a very new computer with efi bios?
[05:37] <cLoCkWiSe> update time
[05:45] <AsSlowAsHell> can someone recommend me a backup program that I can use to restore my Ubuntu 12.10LTS system in case the disk takes a dump?
[05:45] <AsSlowAsHell> preferably some cross-platform backup program
[05:45] <AsSlowAsHell> most programs I am finding are focused on things like backing up your home directory
[05:46] <AsSlowAsHell> but I'm looking for something more along the lines of disk ghost / disk clonging
[05:46] <hateball> AsSlowAsHell: Clonezilla
[05:46] <Tim_Miller> crashplan
[05:46] <pam> Has anyone used the liveboot version on a Macbook from 2006?  Trying the live boot.  Not doing anything.  Just seeing the purple screen with some jumbled garbage white specs
[05:46] <AsSlowAsHell> hateball, checking it out
[05:46] <AsSlowAsHell> Tim_Miller, checking that out too
[05:46] <AsSlowAsHell> thanks guys
[05:48] <Tim_Miller> i am having a network problem that i have never ran into before i have a high ping loss on the lan
[05:49] <Tim_Miller> just with one computer
[05:49] <AsSlowAsHell> bad network cable?
[05:49] <pam> anyone?
[05:50] <Tim_Miller> i'm about to unplug the network cable from the computer with the issues and try it on another computer
[05:53] <pam> Has anyone used the liveboot version on a Macbook from 2006?  Trying the live boot.  Not doing anything.  Just seeing the purple screen with some jumbled garbage white specs
[05:54] <Tim_Miller> unplugged network cable from one computer to another same network port on the wall
[05:54] <Tim_Miller> first computer has a 50-75% ping loss, second computer has a 0% loss
[05:56] <pam> Is there any specific version of Ubuntu I should use with a macbook from 2006?
[05:56] <pam> Is there any specific version of Ubuntu I should use with a macbook pro from 2006?
[05:57] <jeiworth> pam, try the latest
[05:57] <pam> jeiworth: tried it.  I'll paste a picture of how the startup looks.  Funky as hell
[05:58] <Tim_Miller> lol, sounds like the normal version
[05:59] <jeiworth> pam, hit us
[06:00] <pam> loading phone
[06:00] <jeiworth> zzzzzzZZZZZzzzz ;oP
[06:01] <Tim_Miller> has anyone heard of a network card that is going out (causing a high packet loss)
[06:01] <Tim_Miller> i have only ever had them completely fail or work normally
[06:02] <Tim_Miller> not an inbetween
[06:02] <jeiworth> Tim_Miller, what you are describing is either taht or your gateway/router dying
[06:02] <pam> Also, does anyone know if you can access mac's icloud via ubutnu?
[06:02] <pam> ubuntu*
[06:03] <jeiworth> pam, afaik only via web
[06:03] <anwarhsagor> I am new here...Help lplzz?
[06:04] <Tim_Miller> i am experiencing 50-75% ping loss i unplug the cable and plug it into a different computer and i am now getting a 0% ping loss
[06:06] <cLoCkWiSe> hello
[06:06] <cLoCkWiSe> Tim_Miller: what OS
[06:06] <cLoCkWiSe> must be your router
[06:06] <Tim_Miller> xubuntu on the system that is having problems, xp on the system that is working fine
[06:07] <cLoCkWiSe> oh i used to have a similar problem with xubuntu
[06:07] <cLoCkWiSe> do you have your default gateway and DNS set properly
[06:07] <Tim_Miller> yes
[06:10] <Tim_Miller> what is the difference between Auto DHCP and Auto DHCP addresses only
[06:12] <drussell> Tim_Miller: auto dhcp sets, everything via dhcp, ip address, default gw, dns etc etc auto dhcp address only means you can set everything manually except the ip address which it will pick up from dhcp
[06:15] <Tim_Miller> i have tried setting the dns manually and automatically
[06:16] <Tim_Miller> when i try to ping a website i get an unknown host
[06:17] <cLoCkWiSe> is your network even working
[06:17] <cLoCkWiSe> can you ping your router
[06:17] <cLoCkWiSe> ?
[06:18] <cLoCkWiSe> your network card on xubuntu machine may not be working? do you have an active connection?
[06:18] <Tim_Miller> i am getting about a 50% ping loss when i ping a computer on the lan
[06:19] <Tim_Miller> same when i use another computer on the lan to ping the ubuntu computer
[06:19] <cLoCkWiSe> /etc/network/interfaces
[06:19] <cLoCkWiSe> you have dchp enabled in there?
[06:19] <Tim_Miller> yes i do
[06:20] <Tim_Miller> it is pulling and address off of the dhcp server
[06:25] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: hey dan, I'm back
[06:25] <bmelcher84> jeiworth: had to run to my shop
[06:28] <cloudbud> how to configure php myadmin for remote mysql ubuntu
[06:30] <bmelcher84> cloudbud: hey there
[06:30] <bmelcher84> is this running on a vps?
[06:30] <cloudbud> bmelcher84 : yeah
[06:30] <bmelcher84> i can take a stab at this
[06:30] <cloudbud> i tried a number of tutorials but failed
[06:31] <bmelcher84> i recently installed phpmyadmin to capture email addresses
[06:31] <bmelcher84> had a hell of a time with it
[06:31] <cloudbud> bmelcher84 : can you help me with this
[06:32] <bmelcher84> i need a little bit, i have to run, but im not sure if ill be of much help
[06:32] <bmelcher84> someone will be here shortly that may know
[06:32] <WJB> Ok, Here is my ? I need to setup in crontab so that at every reboot it updates the time via usr/sbin/ntpdate, so isn’t it just @reboot /usr/sbin/ntpdate..?  I need to know exactly how the crontab line looks and should i use root crontab or crontab -e type?
[06:32] <bmelcher84> try #php maybe?
[06:32] <WJB> or should i put it on the startup demon in unbuntu and how would i do that?
[06:32] <cloudbud> bmelcher84 : hey thanks i have tried no of channels but didnt work
[06:32] <jnhghy> cloudbud: you have phpmyadmin installed right?
[06:32] <WJB> anybody?
[06:32] <cloudbud> jnhghy : yes
[06:33] <cloudbud> i know i need to change config.php.inc but how
[06:33] <cloudbud> no entry is working
[06:33] <jnhghy> can you open config.inc.php?
[06:33] <somsip> cloudbud: what are you trying to achieve?
[06:33] <cloudbud> yeah
[06:34] <cloudbud> somsip : trying to  configure phpmyadmin with remote mysql server on ubuntu
[06:34] <cloudbud> jnhghy : opened should i pastebin it ??
[06:34] <somsip> cloudbud: you have phpmyadmin installed locally and want it to access mysql on another server?
[06:34] <jnhghy> cloudbud: yup
[06:35] <cloudbud> somdip : yup
[06:35] <somsip> cloudbud: can you access mysql on command line locally first? Make sure it is open to connections
[06:36] <cloudbud> jnhghy : http://pastebin.com/dvBarFk3
[06:36] <cloudbud> somsip : i can
[06:36] <cloudbud> i configured it for centos successfully
[06:38] <somsip> cloudbud: what version of ubuntu is this, and did you install from package or from source?
[06:38] <cloudbud> somsip : its 14 ubuntu and installed it using apt get
[06:39] <cloudbud> jnhghy : can you help me ??
[06:39] <jnhghy> cloudbud: I'm editing the file now ... I've just reinstalled my system and I have to take the steps for my config also :)
[06:39] <cloudbud> jnhghy :thanks pls help me if u can
[06:40] <RSchilder> Who can help me? I got a problem with compiling to PHp 4.5.33
[06:41] <somsip> RSchilder: er...really 4.5?
[06:41] <RSchilder> Yes I'm sorry XD
[06:41] <jack> running trusty...no sound, only "0dummy
[06:41] <Tabmow> Is there a way to move the windows controls from the left side to the right side with unity?
[06:41] <somsip> Tabmow: no
[06:42] <jack> ouput" in the panel
[06:42] <Tabmow> somsip: I read a whole bunch about it being possible previously... was the latest release not available to do so?
[06:42] <somsip> Tabmow: maybe. I've never used unity. The currect version can't be moved
[06:43] <RSchilder> I got the error: cp: cannot stat 'sapi/cli/php.1' : No such file or directory. Make: *** [install-cli] error 1
[06:43] <Tabmow> somsip: fair enough... maybe i'll try another WM and see how I like it...
[06:43] <legend> Are there any plans to reintroduce Wubi installer for windows in future versions of ubuntu?
[06:45] <somsip> legend: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449486/windows-installer-for-ubuntu-14-04-lts-onwards
[06:45] <jnhghy> cloudbud: http://pastebin.com/t7H5rnRA
[06:46] <jnhghy> I'm so idiot :))
[06:46] <legend> somsip:
[06:46] <cloudbud> jnhgy : it worked for u ? i tried the sma e
[06:46] <cloudbud> it didnt worke3d for me
[06:46] <cloudbud> earlier
[06:46] <jnhghy> cloudbud: can you access localhost/phpmyadmin?
[06:47] <cloudbud> i dont have local mysql server
[06:47] <legend> somsip: thanx man.. exactly what i needed.. Wubi installer wasn’t present in version 13.04 and it got me really worried.. because some noob students i teach want it badly
[06:47] <jnhghy> clodubud: yup you are right .. you are on a vps ... can you access phpmyadmin on the vps?
[06:47] <cloudbud> jnhghy : yup
[06:48] <somsip> legend: it appears to still be there, but no idea about plans for future versions
[06:48] <cloudbud> the login opage is appaering
[06:48] <jnhghy> and you are trying to configure phpmyadmin on the vps to connect to a remote mysql right?
[06:48] <legend> somsip: they should never remove Wubi, it’s the gateway to Ubuntu for many newbies.
[06:48] <cloudbud> right
[06:49] <somsip> legend: I'm okay with Wubi and believe it has a place. Many people here loathe it and believe it should be killed with fire. Each to his own
[06:49] <jnhghy> and on the vps you've edited the config.inc.php file, you've added the 5 lines I've added and you get nothing with that?
[06:50] <cloudbud> jnhghy : let me try again
[06:51] <legend> somsip: it’s a boon for the noobs. not so usefull for seasoned professionals
[06:51] <somsip> legend: I use it on my wife's laptop when I need emergency ubuntu away from home. Anyway, this is not a support discussion so EOT for me
[06:54] <WJB> what is the daemon in unbuntu that i can use to execute a command at startup or automagically on reboot
[06:54] <somsip> !cron | WJB
[06:55] <WJB> ok now that i have your attention i think
[06:55] <WJB> Ok, Here is my ? I need to setup in crontab so that at every reboot it updates the time via usr/sbin/ntpdate, so isn’t it just @reboot /usr/sbin/ntpdate..?  I need to know exactly how the crontab line looks and should i use root crontab or crontab -e type?
[06:56] <agent_white> WJB: ntpdate already runs at boot.
[06:56] <somsip> WJB: @reboot /usr/sbin/ntpdate in the root crontab looks like it will do what you want, but whether it achieves the aim is a different matter entirely. Surely ntpd is what you need?
[06:56] <agent_white> No need for a cronjob.
[06:56] <cloudbud> jnhghy : i cant view the tables
[06:56] <WJB> everytime i hard boot i have to reset the time an architechture issue apparenlt that may not be fixable unless i can run a command during startup or at reboot time etc?
[06:57] <WJB> it will update it on the command line with sudo after im logged in etc
[06:57] <jnhghy> cloudbud: but can you see the extra tab with the new server in the phpmyadmin login page?
[06:57] <agent_white> WJB: Maybe you need to sync the hwclock at boot? `/sbin/hwclock --adjust && /sbin/hwclock --systohc`
[06:57] <cloudbud> no im pastng the imange
[06:58] <WJB> ok is that the exact command i can use in root crontab?
[06:58] <agent_white> Yep!
[06:58] <WJB> everything inside the tic marks that is?
[06:58] <WJB> ok cool
[06:59] <WJB> tylet me try ill let you know
[06:59] <agent_white> WJB: You should also enable the ntpd service.
[07:00] <WJB> how do i enable it
[07:00] <cloudbud> jnhghy : http://postimg.org/image/5hh41p22n/
[07:01] <jnhghy> cloudbud: I need to see an image before you login :) or is that what you see when you got to the login screen?
[07:01] <agent_white> WJB: `sudo apt-get install ntpd` `sudo service ntpd enable`
[07:01] <cloudbud> whene i do ip/phpmyadmin i see that :(
[07:01] <WJB> awesome thanks
[07:02] <cloudbud> jnhghy : http://postimg.org/image/4hhi3pbct/
[07:02] <WJB> ;-)
[07:02] <jnhghy> cloudbud: take out the password from the config file let it ''
[07:03] <cloudbud> doing
[07:05] <cloudbud> jnhghy : This web page is not available
[07:05] <WJB> weird
[07:05] <WJB> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/07e294fd6f7346d9253e
[07:05] <WJB> wouldn't let me install
[07:06] <WJB> ntpd
[07:06] <jnhghy> cloudbud: one sec
[07:06] <WJB> sudo apt-get install ntpd Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package ntpd
[07:07] <alumno5345234523> hello
[07:07] <agent_white> WJB: `sudo apt-get install ntp`
[07:07] <agent_white> then `sudo service ntpd start && sudo service ntpd enable`
[07:10] <squinty> fwiw on my 14.04 there is no "ntp" package. the one install here is called ntpdate  client for setting system time from ntp server
[07:10] <jnhghy> cloudbud: can you pastebin from /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf please
[07:11] <cloudbud> jnhghy : i have modified document root of apache but not modified the  /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf file
[07:14] <WJB> agent_white craps out
[07:14] <cloudbud> jnhghy : http://pastebin.com/nh70tYYw . i have modified document root of apache but not modified the  /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf file
[07:14] <WJB> Selecting previously deselected package libopts25.
[07:14] <WJB> (Reading database ... 137575 files and directories currently installed.)
[07:14] <WJB> Unpacking libopts25 (from .../libopts25_1%3a5.12-0.1ubuntu1_armel.deb) ...
[07:14] <agent_white> WJB: How so?
[07:14] <WJB> Err http://ports.ubuntu.com/ oneiric/main ntp armel 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1ubuntu12
[07:14] <WJB>   404  Not Found
[07:14] <WJB> Err http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ oneiric/main ntp armel 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1ubuntu12
[07:14] <unopaste> WJB you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:15] <somsip> !11.10 | WJB (oneiric is 11.10 isn't it?)
[07:15] <agent_white> WJB: Most likely you just need to update your package lists... `sudo apt-get check`
[07:16] <cloudbud> knhghy : any help ??
[07:16] <cloudbud> jnhghy : any help
[07:18] <jnhghy> cloudbud: you've modified document root of apache? what did you modified?
[07:18] <cloudbud> documenet root
[07:26] <Tim_Miller> how do you install a program on ubuntu
[07:26] <somsip> Tim_Miller: from the software centre, or from the command line with 'apt-get install {package}'
[07:29] <Tim_Miller> command line
[07:29] <jnhghy> cloudbud: I see, you'll have to allow access to phpmyadmin directory to All, I've modified apache.config from phpmyadmin a little try this: http://pastebin.com/tTZ3UXL6
[07:32] <cloudbud> jnhghy : no still the same issue. anyways thanks for r efforts and help
[07:32] <cloudbud> :)
[07:32] <jnhghy> cloudbud: you still get a page not found?
[07:33] <cloudbud> no page not found error is resolved but i am getting the page that i pastebin you no tabels nothing
[07:33] <jnhghy> cloudbud: you have ssh access to server?
[07:34] <cloudbud> yes
[07:34] <cloudbud> i can
[07:35] <jnhghy> clodubud: ssh to server then using wget call localhost/phpmyadmin and save the html in a file/display the html save it local on your computer and open the html file with your browser
[07:39] <cloudbud> `/join #phpmyadmin
[07:47] <Tim_Miller> i need a program that will allow me to test a website on the lan before transfering the code to the webserver to go live
[07:47] <ikonia> a web browser perhaps ?
[07:48] <Tim_Miller> i need to be able to open it on multiple devices
[07:48] <ikonia> multiple web browsers ?
[07:48] <ikonia> on multiple devices
[07:48] <Tim_Miller> so i need to be able to point mobile devices to an ip address
[07:48] <ikonia> then when you are happy with it click "transfer"
[07:48] <ikonia> you can point mobile devices to an IP, enter an IP in the browser
[07:49] <Tim_Miller> yep, so basically a web server just it will be on the lan rather than the wan
[07:49] <Tim_Miller> as far as i know i dont know of any program that will just allow you to give a folder a ip address
[07:51] <nusr> can i ask about libreoffice calc here? how can i set noncontiugous ranges
[07:51] <geirha> Tim_Miller: That's what web servers do ...
[07:51] <ikonia> Tim_Miller: do you understand how webservers wrok ?
[07:51] <ikonia> work ?
[07:51] <ikonia> at a basic leve
[07:51] <ikonia> level
[07:51] <Tim_Miller> yes i know at a basic level
[07:52] <ikonia> ok, so you understand you can just serve up directories on the file system
[07:52] <Tim_Miller> that just clicked into my head a few minutes ago lol
[07:52] <geirha> nusr: For specific questions about libreoffice usage, you'll probably get better answers in #libreoffice
[07:54] <nusr> thanks geirha, i just searched and realized there is a channel for that too...only problem is ubuntu is the only channel where people are actually alive
[07:55] <m4n14k> with who i chat yesterday as mariusz_k about problem with gpt
[07:56] <blackyboy> Hi everyone, i have setup a local DNS server using bind9 in Ubuntu, while i dig @127.0.0.1 dns.myoffice.com the answer was 0 and i have assigned my forwaders to 8.8.8.8
[07:56] <blackyboy> how can i setup a local dns with the name of my website name ?
[07:56] <somsip> blackyboy: how local? Just your machine or for a LAN?
[07:57] <ikonia> blackyboy: I don't think you really want/need that
[07:57] <ikonia> blackyboy: a simple solution would be to put an entery in your hostfile
[07:57] <ikonia> rather than a dns setup for one url
[07:58] <blackyboy> somsip: for lan
[07:59] <blackyboy> i have 20 vms in my proxmox local server and every vm need to assigned a name so i have to do it, and same time it want to be in the name of my website name, cos i have to use the wildcard certificate with those vms for my applications
[07:59] <blackyboy> ikonia: no already i have added in host file but i want to assigned from DNS
[08:00] <ikonia> blackyboy: why do you want it from dns ?
[08:01] <blackyboy> assume my website was blackyboy.com, now i want to setup local DNS in the same name, while i dig to any one of the local vm as text.blackyboy.com i dont want to look for my website in internet it want to look in my lan.
[08:01] <ikonia> blackyboy: you'll find it easier just using the host file
[08:01] <blackyboy> ikonia: its my boss order to do a DNS local in the name of website we have
[08:01] <ikonia> blackyboy: you'll end up with an over complex soution
[08:02] <ikonia> blackyboy: what dns servers do the clients currently use ?
[08:02] <blackyboy> now its using 8.8.8.8
[08:02] <ikonia> blackyboy: ok - so that is a problem then
[08:03] <ikonia> blackyboy: speak to your boss and either get a.) why he wants it in dns b.) explain that a host file entry would be more realistic
[08:03] <blackyboy> ikonia: just now i have setuped my dns server and while i dig for my localhost from dns server its doing to internet. even i have removed the entry 8.8.8.8 from network entry, now there is only 192.168.1.150 for dns-nameservers
[08:04] <ikonia> blackyboy forget a local dns server - it's not that simple
[08:04] <blackyboy> ikonia: adding hostfile is easier and i want to learn a new way too :)
[08:04] <ikonia> blackyboy: hence why you need to find out a.) why you NEED a dns server b.) explain to your boss a host file is more realistic
[08:04] <ikonia> blackyboy: oh, so it's not a boss mandate then, you just want to learn
[08:05] <blackyboy> ikonia: its order from him. But its a opportunity for me to learn new thinks so me to intrested
[08:06] <ikonia> blackyboy: I think you need to explain to him that a host file is a better option as you've have to change your whole resolver setup
[08:07] <blackyboy> fine let me try my own thanks @ ikona
[08:07] <rindolf> Hi all. How do I install ia32-libs on Ubuntu x8-64? I want to run x86-32 executables.
[08:08] <ikonia> blackyboy: you understand you're not just setting up a dns server fore your url, you'll have to change your whole network resolver for everything for these devices ?
[08:08] <lesshaste>  If I do... x11vnc -ncache 10 -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0  then it listens on port 5900
[08:08] <lesshaste>  how can I get it to listen on port 5901?
[08:11] <rindolf> Anyone?
[08:11] <EsoRottica> rindolf, I think the ia32-libs was renamed to ia32libs-multiarch?
[08:11] <rindolf> EsoRottica: ah, thanks - let me try.
[08:13] <rindolf> EsoRottica: nothing with "ia32" anywhere.
[08:13] <rindolf> EsoRottica: according to apt-cache search.
[08:14] <hateball> !multiarch
[08:14] <hateball> :|
[08:14] <hateball> ubottu: There was a time you had useful factoids. That is no longer so.
[08:22] <lesshaste> is there some way to scp a file from A to C via B without storing it in B?
[08:23] <bibi-23> I'm trying to make a ssh connection from a terminal, but it hangs, I've tried ctrl+c but it still hangs, how can I abort (without closing the window)?
[08:23] <somsip> lesshaste: scp user@A:/path/file user@B:/path/
[08:23] <somsip> lesshaste: erk...should be to C per your example.
[08:24] <lesshaste> somsip, I am on A
[08:24] <somsip> lesshaste: what do you mean 'via B'? To what end?
[08:24] <lesshaste> somsip, ok so A is my home computer
[08:24] <lesshaste> C is my work computer
[08:24] <lesshaste> but I can't connect directly from A to C
[08:25] <lesshaste> A can connect to B and B can connect to C
[08:25] <somsip> lesshaste: gotcha. I'm not aware of a simple one line command then
[08:26] <agent_white> lesshaste: 02:23 < shevy> print '#{TKBPS}' is non-sensical, you could
[08:26] <agent_white> eep
[08:26] <lesshaste> :)
[08:26] <agent_white> http://superuser.com/questions/276533/scp-files-via-intermediate-host
[08:26] <agent_white> ^ :D
[08:26] <rindolf> hateball, found it here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/454253/how-to-run-android-sdk-in-ubuntu-64-bits
[08:26] <lesshaste> agent_white, wow :)
[08:26] <agent_white> I bet there's some netcat fancy things you could do as well, though not mentioned in that list.
[08:27] <somsip> agent_white: impressive. I hope I never have to use it :)
[08:27] <agent_white> lesshaste: I was curious about your question, and I just googled "chain scp through computers"
[08:27] <agent_white> ;PP
[08:28] <agent_white> Though apparently, the 'correct' way to say it is multi-hop scp transfer/scp through ssh tunneling/or scp through intermediate host.
[08:30] <lesshaste> agent_white, I am trying them all
[08:30] <agent_white> lesshaste: Let me know which works best for you! I want to know.
[08:30] <agent_white> :)
[08:30] <Guest001> hi all
[08:31] <lesshaste> scp -oProxyCommand="ssh B nc -v %h %p" thefile C:destination
[08:31] <lesshaste> that works!
[08:31] <lesshaste> I don't really understand what it does
[08:31] <agent_white> yayay i was right! netcat!
[08:31] <agent_white> :D
[08:31] <agent_white> probably a reverse ssh
[08:32] <hateball> you also have the "-3" option in modern scp
[08:32] <hateball> read the manpage ;b
[08:32] <agent_white> man scp
[08:33] <agent_white> hahaha woops!
[08:33] <agent_white> hateball: Nice find!
[08:33] <lesshaste> hateball, oh... can you translate the command line to something modern?
[08:35] <lesshaste> agent_white, it's very confusing.. I would love to know exactly waht the command line deos
[08:36] <johelish> Hey guys! I'm looking for something to monitor and log everytime the internet goes down for my server. We've been having network issues at the office and I want to know exactly how often it happens
[08:36] <johelish> Do you have any tips?
[08:36] <lesshaste> johelish,  ping :)
[08:37] <johelish> lesshaste: you mean an infinite ping and then ctrl+f for when it doesn't hit? And what should I ping? Google?
[08:37] <agent_white> lesshaste: Basically "scp -oProxyCommand" means that you are sending this command to a proxy (or your 'intermediate/B
[08:37] <agent_white> host, who will in turn execute the command following
[08:37] <lesshaste> agent_white, what is interesting is that I have to type in the password for C where you don't if you connect from B to C
[08:38] <lesshaste> johelish, seems sensible. But what is ctrl+f for here?
[08:38] <Ben64> infinite ping isn't really awesome for that
[08:38] <johelish> Ben64: that was what I was thinking
[08:38] <johelish> I'm really just intressted in when it doesn't respond
[08:38] <agent_white> So, upon receving the scp connection it will proxy (or transfer) that scp connection to your final destination via ssh, using the same hostname/port given to scp (%h and %p)
[08:39] <Ben64> why not just fix the networking problem
[08:39] <agent_white> lesshaste: Hmmm...
[08:39] <hateball> johelish: nagios
[08:40] <lesshaste> agent_white, ok so ... it's all very mysterious to me. B has ssh port forwarding disabled afaik. But this proxycommand works
[08:40] <agent_white> Aye, because of netcat.
[08:40] <johelish> Ben64: Our provider claim there's no problems and that they have 99.98 % uptime. The server is connected directly to the wall so I'd like to see
[08:40] <agent_white> netcat basically is like a little tool for sending/receiving/creating sockets n' stuff.
[08:40] <Ben64> johelish: use crontab and wget or something
[08:41] <johelish> That's smart
[08:41] <agent_white> lesshaste: In short, you're tunneling a scp connection over ssh.
[08:41] <Ben64> will make a log entry every x minutes or whatever
[08:41] <lesshaste> agent_white, aha!!  Maybe this could solve my unison problem too :)
[08:42] <lesshaste> agent_white, I really want to sync A and C using unison. Currently I am resorting to copying which is bad
[08:42] <lesshaste> can netcat solve that for me too?
[08:42] <agent_white> I couldn't tell you, I'm not familiar with unison. But I think you should try it :D
[08:43] <lesshaste> agent_white, unison rocks! :)
[08:43] <lesshaste> agent_white, it's an amazing filesystem synchronisation tool
[08:44] <agent_white> Ooo... it's like a nfs...
[08:44] <agent_white> I'll have to check it out :D
[08:44] <lesshaste> :)
[08:48] <decci>  Please suggest http://paste.ubuntu.com/8612446/
[09:02] <jd-yue> 111
[09:02] <waressearcher2> I got used PC and there is a video card inside it says "radeon" but where can I look exact name of that card ? dmesg ? anywhere else ?
[09:02] <DJones> waressearcher2: lspci should give you the info
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> waressearcher2: lspci | grep -i vga
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> waressearcher2: sudo lshw -C display
[09:04] <waressearcher2> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[09:04] <waressearcher2> now, question, is that card supported in linux ?
[09:04] <waressearcher2> I know gforce are supported, what about radeon cards ?
[09:05] <lesshaste> waressearcher2, they  should be
[09:06] <lesshaste> waressearcher2,  is there a problem you are trying to fix?
[09:06] <k1l> waressearcher2, gforce is supported. it just depends on the exact card. old cards get kicked out of nvidia support and you need to run the free dirver then.
[09:07] <waressearcher2> until 10 days ago I used RIVA TNT 16MB, and I used old nvidia driver, and now that PC died and I got another one, used one, Core2Duo E2160, 2GB RAM, and Radeon Video, so now I have one problem to get drivers for radeon
[09:09] <k1l> waressearcher2, it should load the radeon free driver and that should work ootb
[09:09] <waressearcher2> https://www.pcarena.hu/oriaskep/ati-radeon-x300se-1756.jpg that one looks like my card, what are my chances to get it working ?
[09:09] <waressearcher2> k1l: "free driver", I need acceleration, what if I want to run gl software
[09:09] <k1l> waressearcher2, what is the issue actually? is this a new install? or did you run the old install from the other setup?
[09:10] <k1l> waressearcher2, did you look at what the radeon driver got for you?
[09:10] <k1l> waressearcher2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[09:10] <k1l> you could try the fglrx driver in the ubuntu repos, but i dont know if it supports your card anymore. you need to find that
[09:11] <waressearcher2> I'm still thinking of should I return that radeon and get some old geforce card or should I dig in to all that stuff trying to setup that radeon, especially when I heard radeon cards are poorely supported
[09:11] <k1l> waressearcher2, stop
[09:12] <k1l> waressearcher2, please first read the link i just showed you. you dont sem to have any clue and are mixing a  lot of things. read that page to get a basis of knowledge, please
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> waressearcher2: AMD make drivers for Linux, you will need to check if that GPU is supported by the proprietary driver, otherwise the driver in use will be used.
[09:13] <k1l> waressearcher2, just to give you a hint. if you start a pc with a amd/ati card it will load the radeon driver out of the box.
[09:18] <waressearcher2> k1l: that page says "RV370 Radeon X300, M22" is fully supported, but what is "M22" ?
[09:19] <k1l> some sort of technical description.
[09:20] <k1l> waressearcher2, but again: what is your actual issue? i think you just have a " omg i need the latest amd driver" issue, which in fact is none.
[09:20] <k1l> is there anything not working with your video card?
[09:21] <MMukherjee> !info remod
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> imho, a mid range Nvidia will be better
[09:35] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:47] <fortynine> YA
[09:55] <hayer_> Okey, this might sound like a stupid idea but I have my reasons; Can I install a desktop in ubuntu server, configure my software and services, then remove the desktop again? Any downsides?
[09:56] <geirha> hayer_: why do you need a "desktop"?
[09:57] <agent_white> hayer_: Yep you can. The downside would be ensuring you removed everything.  As well as missing a learning experience for setting up a headless server, which is invaluable.
[09:57] <agent_white> I would recommend not installing the desktop.
[09:58] <hayer_> agent_white: I know very well how to set up a headless server. The provider of the software/service requires a desktop for their consultant to configure it, boss signed it said "okey, figure it out".. Well, I've never needed a desktop env in a server, so no experience with "installing a desktop in a server"..
[09:59] <agent_white> hayer_: Well then there's your answer: you have no choice but to do it :)
[09:59] <hayer_> And yes, I've asked them to configure it on one server and move the config files over -- the just pointed to the contract and said "but your boss said you would fix a desktop, and we won't move the config files"
[09:59] <k1l> basically install the ubuntu-desktop package (or another one). might need to install a lightdm, too.
[09:59] <agent_white> Odd a consultant would need a environment to do their work.
[09:59] <hayer_> yes, but.. argargarga WHY?! And what is the easiest way to purge all the packages I dont need?
[10:00] <hayer_> agent_white: their mainly windows guys.
[10:00] <hayer_> k1l: so a apt-get install and remove of ubuntu-desktop should be enough?
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[10:02] <k1l> hayer_, dont know if it will remove all the packages afterwards. that might need to take a look at the package list afterwards
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[10:02] <hayer_> well, save package list before, and compare to the one after should be enough.. then just remove all new packages.
[10:03] <TnSZ> hello there, I'd like to create a partition on a thumb drive and...it is not possible!
[10:03] <agent_white> hayer_: Probably.  Though may as well ask what packages their software depends on, then remove the rest installed on that date as long as it isn't neeeded.
[10:03] <TnSZ> gnome disk utility in 14.04. offers no option to create partition when the disk is blank
[10:03] <Ben64> TnSZ: you might have to make a partition table first
[10:04] <TnSZ> Ben64, it used to be a one-click thing in disk utility before 14.04.
[10:04] <Ben64> TnSZ: nope
[10:04] <staticshock007> hi
[10:04] <hayer_> agent_white: the funny thing is that the software is already installed and running. Its just a rather large config update, no upgrade, new install, only config changes.
[10:04] <TnSZ> now this option seems to have been removed..
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> TnSZ: use gparted instead
[10:04] <agent_white> hayer_: Even better then, I suppose. Since you'll have less chance of removing dependencies.
[10:04] <TnSZ> well, I used it for years for it...now I explicitly had to install gparted, and
[10:05] <agent_white> I would just ask the consultant what additional, unnecessary software he might've used for his tools, and ask him to remove it or notify you of what he did install?
[10:05] <TnSZ> when I go for the partition table, it shows me a list of partition table types, among which nothing is familiar, and I dont know which one is correct
[10:05] <TnSZ> or suitable for me
[10:05] <agent_white> Though if you grep dpkg.log you should see everything he might've installed. Then check if any packages are dependent on things installed there.
[10:06] <k1l> hayer_, will a sftp not work?
[10:06] <Ben64> TnSZ: usually you're going to want msdos
[10:06] <agent_white> k1l: FTP?! What is this, Windows?! ;P
[10:06] <hayer_> k1l: meh, it just seems that they refuse to cooperate and keep repeating "we need the guy"
[10:06] <agent_white> hayer_: Aka, "we need a reason to bill you" ;P
[10:06] <hayer_> gui *   not guy >_>
[10:07] <TnSZ> earlier, in gnome disk utility, there was visibly places buttons over the lower half of the page,  'create partition' 'delete partition'  'lock partition'...why do usable (and useful) things get removed?
[10:07] <agent_white> hayer_: Haha, you should pester them aboutit. "Why can't you do it remotely... etc."
[10:07] <TnSZ> and what would I have to do with msdos? am I using windows?
[10:08] <agent_white> TnSZ: When you choose a filesystem layout, you need to take into consideration if you are going to be using that USB across multiple OS's.
[10:08] <Ben64> TnSZ: i don't know if you're using windows, but the vast majority of drives are msdos partition tables
[10:08] <agent_white> If only on linux/mac, ext4 is fine. If linux/mac/windows, you need to use fat32.
[10:09] <TnSZ> I never was asked to choose msdos..
[10:09] <kevinkien> !status
[10:09] <agent_white> TnSZ: Do you know the path of the USB device?
[10:09] <TnSZ> yes
[10:10] <agent_white> `mkfs.vfat /dev/sdX`
[10:10] <Ben64> which doesn't make a partition table
[10:10] <agent_white> rather... `mkfs.vfat /dev/sdX1` ... X being the drive letter, and 1 being the partition.
[10:10] <TnSZ> if 'across multiple OSes' means windows, too, I dont suppose it needs to be so much of a concern for a linux user. there is FAT format to choose..
[10:11] <TnSZ> there used to be, at least
[10:11] <Ben64> TnSZ: what are you trying to accomplish
[10:12] <agent_white> Ben64: Ah yeah, didn't think about that! He just needs to use fdisk.
[10:12] <TnSZ> agent_white, that's all I'm talking about. not everyone is commandline-savvy, and why does a useful GUI element gets removed?
[10:12] <Ben64> it hasn't been
[10:12] <TnSZ> Ben64, I am trying to accomplish the simplest task of creating a disk partition
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> TnSZ: FAT32 has a maximum file size of 4Gb, if that suits your needs then fine....
[10:12] <dandre> Hello,
[10:12] <dandre> if I run
[10:12] <dandre> lsof|wc -l
[10:12] <dandre> I get 64580
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> hi dandre
[10:13] <Ben64> why is everyone jumping to filesystem when he hasn't even created the partition yet?
[10:13] <dandre> and if I run
[10:13] <dandre> ulimit -n
[10:13] <dandre> I get 1024
[10:13] <cfhowlett> !enter | dandre,
[10:13] <Ben64> dandre: less <enter> please
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> dandre: please press ENTER less
[10:13] <dandre> why is there such a difference?
[10:13] <agent_white> Ben64: More than likely a partition is already sitting there.
[10:13] <cfhowlett> dandre, because I
[10:13] <Ben64> agent_white: not according to TnSZ
[10:14] <agent_white> Ben64: Oh my mistake! I must have missed that.
[10:14] <cfhowlett> dandre, hard to read = hard to follow and understand = less likely to get help
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> dandre: ulimit is used to report file size limit
[10:14] <TnSZ> ActionParsnip, yes, in this case the size doesnt matter.  but I cant find FAT anywhere. I used to be able to select file format, size, everything..but now that window has disasppeared from gnome disk utility, and gparted shows me a list of part types, mac, msdos, bradpitt, madonna..
[10:14] <Ben64> dandre: ulimit and lsof show vastly different things, you might want to check what they both do
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> TnSZ: even in gparted?
[10:14] <Ben64> TnSZ: right, so pick msdos
[10:14] <agent_white> ^
[10:14] <Ben64> TnSZ: then you can create all the partitions you want
[10:15] <Guest61669> !status
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> dandre: my ulimit -n is also 1024  my lsof is 1926
[10:15] <dandre> ulimit -a => ... open files                      (-n) 1024
[10:16] <dandre> and from lsof man : lsof - list open files
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> dandre: ulimit doesn't have a -a option
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> dandre: ahh, it shows all limits
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> dandre: http://ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> dandre: -n   is a subset of information of the -a
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> dandre: are you seeing issues with opren file handles?
[10:19] <dandre> no
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> dandre: then why do you care?
[10:20] <dandre> I was just surprised by this difference
[10:20] <Ben64> lsof shows a whole bunch of stuff that isn't files
[10:21] <Ben64> also duplicates, and ulimit is per user
[10:21] <dandre> ok thanks
[10:30] <flaritycat> Hi, a fast Q. Is there a simple way to get Firefox Always on Top? - Using Ubuntu, not looking for an extension.
[10:31] <k1l> flaritycat: right click on the window bar and select: always on top?
[10:32] <flaritycat> Yeah, ok. But if an update window queries, will that top firefox again?
[10:32] <flaritycat> And I believe I haven't seen "Always on top" funktion in Ubuntu+Firefox.
[10:33] <k1l> flaritycat: what ubuntu are you on exactly?
[10:33] <flaritycat> Uhm, Xubuntu 14.04.01 32bit.
[10:34] <k1l> ok, so its xfce. on ubuntu with unity there is tthat menue entry in the window-bar menu. i am not sure for xfce
[10:34] <EriC^^> hold alt + press space , select always on top
[10:35] <EriC^^> ( you can minimize quickly with alt+space+n btw )
[10:35] <flaritycat> k1l: yeah maybe thats why.
[10:35] <flaritycat> Thanks EriC^^ I will give it a try.
[10:37] <TnSZ> I chose msDDoS, and created the partition..thank you all for your help!
[10:39] <TnSZ> well..apparently not yet..the partition seems to be read-only.
[10:39] <TnSZ> man..didnt need none of this with the old disk utility
[10:41] <TnSZ> it's like barring the front entrance of a building and having people use the fire escapes to get to higher floors.
[10:41] <ment0s_> hello
[10:41] <ment0s_> Hello, Could some one tell me if using linux bridges is  completely secure when used in virtualization ? For example if  I give access to empty bridge br0 for example, so the question  is , is it safe for host operating system and will it take any  traffic load ?
[10:43] <waressearcher2> k1l: also, really ? can't someone just ask a question without having some particular issues ? are you what guardian of channel's purity ?
[10:45] <TnSZ> serious question..why should one -not one who can juggle with linux-admin, but just any average ubuntu user-  have to go through all this meaningless gparted routes just because a very straightforward, absurdly simple way to do the same thing is removed? why does it get removed? to make newcomers hate ubuntu and move to cupertino or redmond?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> waressearcher2, 1.  attitude.  less of.  2.  this is a support channel.  ask or answer support questions is the topic of the day.  other discussions are best held in #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere. these are the community expectations.
[10:45] <agent_white> TnSZ: Learning fdisk is a good idea.  Much easier than digging through gui fog.
[10:45] <TnSZ> absolutely senseless that gnome disk utility is changed from what it was in 12.10. to what it is in 14.04.
[10:45] <waressearcher2> cfhowlett: what about ubuntu derivatives, are they supported here ?
[10:46] <ObrienDave> yes, they are
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !flavors | waressearcher2 everything on this list is supported.
[10:46] <TnSZ> learning is fine, but it doesnt make up a reason for what I mentioned, agent_white.
[10:46] <ObrienDave> waressearcher2, yes, OFFICIAL Ubuntu versions are
[10:47] <agent_white> TnSZ: I understand. I personally find the difficulty to be part of the fun in learning. As once you figure it out, you have it down for good :)
[10:47] <maxvi> I want to write a program which gui is best for ubuntu ? (I prefer Python to write a program and using ubuntu 14.04)
[10:47] <EriC^^> maxvi: maybe python+gtk3
[10:48] <maxvi> EriC^^: Or best will be write some console program ?
[10:48] <TnSZ> agent_white, I agree. but it doesn't necessitate removing the easy one, and only leaving the hard way in there. whoever is curious can anyway go for the higher level. without having to remove the easy one
[10:48] <maxvi> so the people if they need can write gui
[10:48] <TnSZ> and whoever doesnt know yet, would not have to dig through things when the time demands other priorities
[10:48] <agent_white> TnSZ: Very true. You would know more than I, as I use the terminal instead of the GUI (for reasons such as this -- less prone to drastic changes)
[10:49] <agent_white> TnSZ: Maybe you could look into some alternatives?
[10:49] <EriC^^> maxvi: depends on what the program does, etc.
[10:50] <cfhowlett> agent_white, I tend to agree.  I've created far more problems via point and click gui than I have via gui.
[10:50] <ankitshah012> I am unable to install a file
[10:50] <TnSZ> oh yes, looking into..that's the problem, just 'as of now', you know..
[10:50] <ankitshah012> This is pertaining to export of variables
[10:50] <EriC^^> ankitshah012: elaborate further
[10:51] <agent_white> TnSZ: Understandable. But again, the frustration will pay off in the future. And then you can help others in this channel who run into the same problem :)
[10:51] <hateball> maxvi: It all depends on your target audience really. I'd suggest Qt, but that's me
[10:51] <k1l> ankitshah012: please put the command and the errormessage into a pastebin
[10:52] <ankitshah012> Ok I will do that
[10:52] <agent_white> TnSZ: Also, there are heaps upon heaps of guides using fdisk over any GUI you'll find.
[10:52] <ankitshah012> one sec
[10:55] <ankitshah012> http://pastebin.com/JEcpZapu
[10:56] <k1l> ankitshah012: what is the command you run?
[10:56] <ankitshah012> it is ./build.sh
[10:56] <ankitshah012> This is for a RISCV based project
[10:57] <k1l> ankitshah012: ok, can you draw the whole piture of what you are doing on what machine and what happens?
[10:57] <ankitshah012> Trying to build some files for a processor which will be a 6 stage pipeline
[10:57] <maxvi> hateball: it is program for me for now ) so I might be a console app but I don't know how the people will write GUI later I need to write some specificly in my console app ?
[10:58] <maxvi> hateball: or usually all GUI parse console output ?
[10:58] <TnSZ> think I solved it for now with disk utility. tried formatting again, and this time I was asked on mbr/dos compatibility, and therefafter I was able to use the (+) button to create partition as before.
[10:58] <agent_white> TnSZ: Awesome! :D
[10:59] <TnSZ> agent_white, not a gui designer, but those who are say that it is the deadliest sin to change a design that is working for the user..
[10:59] <TnSZ> :)
[11:00] <TnSZ> still, thank you for your help!
[11:01] <k1l> ankitshah012: support only here in this channel please
[11:02] <agent_white> TnSZ: Haha true. I hope you do consider going the cli/terminal route next time, you'll find that knowledge to apply across majority of Linux distro's.
[11:03] <boichev> what is the idea behind disabling the dot in an username on ubuntu and debian ?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> boichev: in the middle?
[11:04] <boichev> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> boichev: hmm,tbh, never used it....interesting
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> boichev: are you sure its not capital letters that are causing the issue (That was a bug of the installer back in the day)
[11:05] <EriC^^> boichev: a dot works in the middle
[11:05] <EriC^^> sudo useradd -m xx.xx
[11:06] <TnSZ> agent_white, yes, I will.
[11:06] <EriC^^> xx.xx:x:1002:1002::/home/xx.xx:
[11:06] <EriC^^> i wouldn't use it, but it works
[11:07] <boichev> EriC^^ useradd is skiping the regexp, adduser does not and tells you to use "--force-badname"... try it
[11:08] <EriC^^> yeah, just tried it
[11:08] <EriC^^> it seems reasonable though
[11:09] <EriC^^> maybe a program you download or something doesn't take into consideration the dot
[11:09] <EriC^^> ( like how /etc/passwd uses : to delimit stuff )
[11:16] <Douglas> Hello everybody! how to install ubuntu on my tablet? and what are the risks?
[11:17] <__unik> Douglas: I don't think it's not a googlable question
[11:17] <__unik> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/linux/3531970/how-install-ubuntu-touch/
[11:18] <k1l> __unik: please dont just tell people to google.
[11:19] <__unik> k1l: yes but it could be a long answer so...
[11:19] <__unik> sorry
[11:19] <k1l> Douglas: that depends on some specs: what tablet exactly? is the bootloader open to flash other OS? which ubuntu do you mean? the ubuntu-touch or the regular desktop? etc.
[11:22] <Douglas> I want to install ubuntu toutch on android in an "orange" tablet
[11:23] <Mathisen> hmm does ubuntu work on tablets now days...  does it work for a " Samsung note 10.1 " ?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> !touch | Douglas
[11:23] <k1l> Douglas: well. since its all community support on arm devices (due to the bad driver situation) your best bet is to see if there was one who already made a port working for you.
[11:23] <cfhowlett> Mathisen, see the !touch wiki
[11:24] <Mathisen> !touch wiki
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !touch > Mathisen
[11:25] <Douglas> Thanks to all
[11:25] <k1l> Mathisen: the next ubuntu unity with MIR is right now made working on phones and tablets. see #ubuntu-touch . but dont expect it running on much devices. its not like putting a cd into a pc and running just fine
[11:26] <Goran_> ubuntu failed to install on my system. It doesn't see the partitions on the discs - says they're empty. I've also tried fedora, it had different problem, but also disc related. It's a Haswell Desktop (the 4Ghz one) with nvidia gpu
[11:27] <Goran_> the discs do contain partitions
[11:27] <k1l> Goran_: what stuff is on the hdd?
[11:27] <k1l> Goran_: can you bring up a live ubuntu?
[11:27] <Goran_> windows 8.1
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Goran_, typical behavior associated with gpt.  open a terminal and run gdisk
[11:27] <Mugen_Deutsche> hi guys
[11:28] <Mugen_Deutsche> how can i enable fire in compiz ?
[11:28] <Two> test
[11:28] <Mugen_Deutsche> so when i close a window the fire will come out
[11:28] <Two> mkay
[11:28] <skyfall> i have an issue in my lockscreen. when i boot into ubuntu , it appears as small screen and when i type in the password only it appears to full screen
[11:29] <k1l> !ccsm | Mugen_Deutsche but be very aware it can make your desktop not start anymore
[11:29] <Goran_> haven't tried the live ubuntu, ill try it now
[11:29] <Two>  isnt there a seection buttons on the top ?
[11:29] <Two> selection*
[11:29] <skyfall> please help me with this
[11:29] <Two> im using xubuntu myself
[11:29] <Two> and im new to this to
[11:30] <Two> my puter is to small to run windows
[11:30] <Two> lolsies
[11:30] <Two> now i have a small piece that can do way more
[11:30] <Two> funny
[11:31] <Mathisen> k1l yeah i understand that.. but can you tell me if they have it working on the model i said ?? no one is answering in other chan.. i have my tablet rooted and am using a custom rom right now but ubuntu would be nice to have on it
[11:31] <cfhowlett> Mathisen, if it doesn't appear on the !touuch list of supported devices, assume no
[11:31] <k1l> Mathisen: read the topic in that channel and see the link to the wiki to supported devices
[11:45] <Goran_> tried the live cd, it works, i can even mount the windows partitions, but the installer says no operating system found, doesnt see partitions!
[11:47] <asbjornenge> yo! is there a way to disable ipv6 dns lookups? Ideally for a particular domain...
[11:47] <Goran_> does ubuntu installer work with mbr and efi combination?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !uefi | Goran_
[11:48] <rypervenche> asbjornenge: Only for a specific domain? Hmmm, not that I know of. What is the problem that you are running into exactly?
[11:49] <k1l> Goran_: can you pastebin "sudo fdisk -l"?
[11:52] <rypervenche> asbjornenge: You can edit your /etc/gai.conf to change the priority of the IP of that one domain.
[11:56] <rypervenche> asbjornenge: If you add the line "precedence ::ffff:1.2.3.4/128 100" where 1.2.3.4 is the IP that you want to take precedence over the rest, that should fix your problem. If the IP of the site changes though, you will need to update it.
[11:58] <asbjornenge> rypervenche: I tried this without any luck....
[11:59] <asbjornenge> rypervenche: I'm running under lxc (docker) and need to prioritize ipv4 for DNS service discovery
[12:00] <asbjornenge> rypervenche: I tried modifying gai.conf, but does not seem to have any effect at all... I've been testing with curl and a python app I'm trying to run...
[12:00] <asbjornenge> curl -4 everything works
[12:00] <rypervenche> asbjornenge: Why exactly? What is happening that is causing problems with just using IPv6?
[12:01] <asbjornenge> rypervenche: docker currently does not support ipv6... I have another containers querying docker API and populating the DNS... it can only get ahold of ipv4 addresses, so that is all I can use...
[12:01] <Ryvius> Help, I have two monitors and everything opens on the wrong monitor. How do I fix that?
[12:03] <xxLIGHTxx> join
[12:05] <rypervenche> asbjornenge: So your choices are to enable IPv6 in the docker container, there are several links to this: http://ryp.io/45 or http://ryp.io/46 . Your second option is to just disable IPv6. Depends on how important IPv6 is to you.
[12:06] <asbjornenge> rypervenche: well, I would like to enable ipv6 for the container, trouble is that the ipv6 addr is not exposed over the docker API, so how do I get ahold for it?
[12:07] <asbjornenge> rypervenche: I have also been trying to disable ipv6 for the container entirely without that stopping the dns AAAA queries...
[12:07] <asbjornenge> The container is on 14.04
[12:09] <rypervenche> asbjornenge: It looks as though they added it to iplocator. I might ask in #docker. Are you using the latest version of docker? https://github.com/docker/docker/pull/8319
[12:10] <asbjornenge> rypervenche: oh - YAY! uhm, I'm not on 1.3 yet... did this PR make it in?
[12:10] <asbjornenge> I'll dig around...
[12:10] <asbjornenge> then it is not too far away anyhow, thats great news! Thanks :-D
[12:13] <rypervenche> asbjornenge: No problem. Glad to see you're not giving up on IPv6 :)
[12:14] <He4dShOt> hey
[12:14] <He4dShOt> I'm having a problem with rsync
[12:15] <He4dShOt> it doesn't resume the file anymore
[12:15] <He4dShOt> I'm trying to copy a file to a samba share
[12:18] <asbjornenge> rypervenche: quick question while I wait :-P If I disable ipv6 on the host, would it not also be disabled on the containers?
[12:26] <rypervenche> asbjornenge: It shouldn't disable it on the containers, not that I'm aware of. But that would be a question better suited for #docker since I haven't tried it.
[12:27] <asbjornenge> rypervenche: alright, thanks again :-)
[12:33] <nkh> hi guys, I've tried to install ubuntu 12.04 on a HP ProBook 4520s, I tried the live session and it does not recognize the entire hard drive and shows it as unallocated space ... I've disabled anything extra in BIOS like UEFI boot and AntiTheft and other stuff (There were no secure boot option) ... any one has any idea? I can't install any other versions so please don't answer that with "Try 14.04"
[12:36] <peto> hi
[12:37] <nkh> Hi peto, seems no one is seeing :D just ask your question :)
[12:38] <peto> thks nkh, just reading
[12:39] <bottleofwater> nkh, you'll have better luck asking in a forum
[12:39] <bottleofwater> Such as askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org
[12:40] <nkh> bottleofwater: Ok thanks, It was like an emergency now so if no one had the experience, you're right.
[12:42] <peto> bye
[12:45] <gladioacuto> hi there
[12:45] <maxnard> buongiooooorno
[12:47] <gladioacuto> i'm new to ubuntu (coming from debian), i moved from unity desktop to fluxbox which is my preferred wm, but i like some unity-2d-panel appletz, such as the wifi icon and power button. What do they refer to? Where can i found the scripts launched by those icons in order to place them somewhere in my fluxbox wm?
[12:47] <gladioacuto> ciao maxnard
[12:52] <Millsy|Work> .leave
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> gladioacuto: if you run:  nm-applet   do you see the icon?
[12:54] <user74747> Hi! I'm trying to install git on a cubietruck box (arch=armv7l) that runs lubuntu. When I try to apt-get install git, I get a 404 message. What should I do?
[12:55] <user74747> Error messages: *** Err http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ quantal/main git-man all 1:1.7.10.4-1ubuntu1
[12:55] <user74747>   404  Not Found
[12:55] <user74747> Err http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ quantal/main git armhf 1:1.7.10.4-1ubuntu1
[12:55] <user74747>   404  Not Found
[12:55] <user74747> Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/g/git/git-man_1.7.10.4-1ubuntu1_all.deb  404  Not Found
[12:55] <user74747> Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/g/git/git_1.7.10.4-1ubuntu1_armhf.deb  404  Not Found
[12:55] <unopaste> user74747 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:55] <bhalash> Good lord man, use a pastebun.
[12:56] <Pici> user74747: quantal (12.10) is no longer a supported release.
[12:56] <OerHeks> user74747, install a supported version
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> user74747: what you are doing is like searching for Windows updates on Windows 98
[12:56] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> user74747: the packages cannot be found as they don't exist
[12:57] <OerHeks> DOA dead on arrival
[12:58] <user74747> unopaste: Sorry, it didn't seem so much in the term. What should I add to sources.list? Should I upgrade?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> user74747: I suggest you wipe Quantal off and do a clean install of Trusty. Trusty is LTS and supported til April 2019. You can restore your user data from your backups
[12:58] <OerHeks> user74747, upgrade 12.,10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 140.04 lts takes a long road
[12:58] <OerHeks> err 14.04
[13:00] <gladioacuto> ActionParsnip, if i run nm-applet i see a tray with a wifi icon which is different from that of the panel, but yes, i see it
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> gladioacuto: cool
[13:02] <user74747> Can I just install git from some kind of backports or something? I'd really rather use git today and bother with all the updraging later.
[13:03] <OerHeks> user74747, nope, as you need the git software first
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> user74747: your release is no longer supported in any way
[13:05] <__unik> Hello. How can I add more space to / partition?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> __unik: uninstall old unused kernels and run:  sudo apt-get clean
[13:07] <__unik> omg how cool thanks. But ActionParsnip I want to add more using partition tool. Can you pls show me
[13:07] <gladioacuto> ActionParsnip, but it's only the wifi applet?
[13:08] <instigator> Hello. can cron jobs run when a computer is in sleep/suspend mode?
[13:08] <gladioacuto> ActionParsnip, what about battery and power button?
[13:09] <user74747> Ok, thank you! Then I'll just copy my project files to my laptop for now. Can anybody give some guide on upgrading a distro by several versions. Is it just like editing the spuces.list and doing update&&upgrade many times over?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> __unik: dpkg -l | grep linux-image    will show the installed kernels.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> __unik: uname -r     will show the running kernel. You can uninstall the oild kernels but NOT the running kernel
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> __unik: you will get about 120Mb per kenel back in space
[13:11] <__unik> ActionParsnip: Thank you but I meant I wanted to add more _disk_ space
[13:11] <__unik> using
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> __unik: if you want to pastebin the output of both commands, I can give the command to run to remove the old kernels.
[13:11] <__unik> partition tool
[13:11] <__unik> like resize the partition I meant
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> __unik: ahhh then you will need ubuntu liveCD and gparted
[13:11] <__unik> yes, only gparted didn't work
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> __unik: if you dual boot, I suggest you boot to Windows and resize your NTFS to be smaller then resize Ubuntu to the freed space]#
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> __unik: obviously be sure you have your important data backed up in case of catastrophe
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> __unik: it wont work in the running OS as the partitions are mounted, so you cannot touch them, hence why you need liveCD
[13:12] <__unik> ActionParsnip: thanks. I have 20 GB unlocated disk space
[13:12] <__unik> yeah, I will try doing that with an USB.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> __unik: freeing up space with old kernels helps too :)
[13:14] <garotosopa> Hi. I'm trying to use an old EeePC 1000H but the keyboard doesn't work properly. Some keys (capslock, tab, Fn, and some others) aren't recognized on xev or kern.log. Any advice?
[13:14] <__unik> thank you very much ActionParsnip
[13:14] <__unik> I think you better change your nick shorter so that people can thank you easier
[13:15] <lumia900> after i changed the host name yet am unable to ping my host name
[13:15] <lumia900> any idea were its getting missed ?
[13:15] <OerHeks> __unik, type action + tab
[13:15] <OerHeks> :-D
[13:15] <__unik> omg lol I am noob
[13:15] <OerHeks> lumia900, how did you change your hostname?
[13:16] <__unik> thank you OerHeks
[13:16] <hateball> lumia900: make sure both /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts look proper
[13:16] <guntbert> !hostname | lumia900
[13:16] <OerHeks> lumia900, /etc/hostname AND /etc/hosts ?
[13:16] <OerHeks> ah nice factoid
[13:17] <lumia900> OerHeks http://pastebin.com/y7XbpnLb
[13:17] <OerHeks> lumia900, see the message of ubottu
[13:18] <lumia900> which one
[13:18] <lumia900> CML-INDIAFS is host name ..
[13:19] <lumia900> and CML-INDIA.COM is like my WORKGROUP
[13:21] <lumia900> OerHeks ?
[13:21] <igno818> Installed ubuntu server 14.04 and used lubuntu for a gui however, my sound is choppy now. Looks like it's switching from stereo to headphones constantly. Checked gnome and this doesn't happen. Any ideas what it may be?
[13:21] <OerHeks> lumia900, cat /etc/hostname && echo "-------------" && cat /etc/hosts  # to see if the names match
[13:24] <lumia900> OerHeks please have a check with ur pvt
[13:24] <lumia900> Pastebin is currently undergoing some planned system maintenance.
[13:25] <trndr> garotosopa: have you checked if the keys work in bios?
[13:27] <OerHeks> lumia900, try paste.ubuntu.com
[13:28] <pbx> lumia900, or dpaste.com
[13:30] <lumia900> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8614999/
[13:30] <garotosopa> trndr: I can't be sure because the keys that don't work aren't used in the BIOS Setup. How do you suggest me to test?
[13:30] <lumia900> now i have removed the WORKGROUP CML-INDIA and gave a try
[13:30] <lumia900> but still am unable to get the hostname ping :(
[13:32] <OerHeks> lumia900, did you reboot?
[13:32] <lumia900> now i have removed the WORKGROUP CML-INDIA and gave a try
[13:33] <lumia900> yes every time when i run this am rebooting the VM
[13:35] <lumia900> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8615066/
[13:36] <lumia900> yet i dont see my hostname gets ping :(
[13:36] <OerHeks> and /etc/hosts ?
[13:36] <lumia900> i have pasted the either
[13:36] <lumia900> both hosts and hostname
[13:37] <OerHeks> oh yes, should be oke then
[13:37] <dgnorton> is there a way to export the CoreDump from an apport crash report to a core file?
[13:37] <hateball> lumia900: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8615066/ looks all weird
[13:38] <lumia900> hateball wired !??
[13:38] <hateball> lumia900: No. Weird. Wrong.
[13:38] <hateball> lumia900: you've got the first line with two hostnames. One of them not being the same as the second one either
[13:38] <lumia900> please to know where i have messed
[13:39] <lumia900> got the point .. UFF i messed with name
[13:39] <alteregoa> i got a very strange issue when i do mdadm --detail --scan i got garbage
[13:39] <lumia900> let me have change
[13:40] <alteregoa> mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/3: No such file or directory
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: try prefixing with sudo
[13:43] <alteregoa> ActionParsnip, lol
[13:43] <alteregoa> heh im root
[13:43] <alteregoa> it's a bug
[13:43] <lumia900> hateball : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8615164/
[13:44] <lumia900> any idea why am still unable to ping my hostname
[13:44] <hateball> lumia900: the first row still has two hostnames instead of just localhost
[13:44] <sydney> Im having mouse issues. it likes to randomly double or triple click.  Here is a video demonstrating https://cloud.openmailbox.org/public.php?service=files&t=88fdb7754327f1f485e1150ae62eb7fc I only clicked once on everything in the video. What can i do to fix that issue? I have the problem in every DE i use. And i know its not my mouse.
[13:44] <alteregoa> ActionParsnip, show my pastebin
[13:45] <hateball> lumia900: does running "hostname" by itself show the correct name, as entered in /etc/hostname ?
[13:45] <lumia900> 'i have removed the localhost and reboot now
[13:46] <trndr> garotosopa: dosen't it use an AMI bios? I'm quite sure tab should be used in bios.
[13:46] <hateball> lumia900: ... you're supposed to have "localhost". not "localhost CML-whatever" one name on each row.
[13:47] <alteregoa> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/tJDyPazC
[13:47] <lumia900> having local host alone will resolve this ?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: not used any of that. I use real RAID if any, where you configure the array in hardware
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: not this softwae raid rubbish
[13:48] <alteregoa> a real raid is a software raid
[13:48] <lumia900> cause i been tried in one machine adding the CML-whatever  .. was worked when i pinged it
[13:48] <alteregoa> software raid rubbish? that was 10 year ago
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: if you are using dmraid then that is a kernel side thing
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: try a PCI-X RAID card with 512Mb cache
[13:48] <alteregoa> ok i talk to a other more competent person
[13:49] <alteregoa> and if your controller fails
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: the motherboard controller can fail too...
[13:49] <alteregoa> read some abstracts about hw vs sw raid and failure rates
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> sydney: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: if you are having to use Ubuntu to confifure the array, its software raid
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: http://linux.die.net/man/8/dmraid
[13:50] <alteregoa> ActionParsnip, yeah but a additional HW makes it more complicated, and less fail tolerant
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: its still software managed
[13:50] <lumia900> hateball : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8615244/
[13:51] <lumia900> looks like same issue ..
[13:51] <lumia900> am still unable to ping my hostname !
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> lumia900: don't you need the line:    127.0.0.1       CML-INDIAFS      so it can resolve CML-INDIAFS to 127.0.0.1 ?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> sydney: its a single line so no need to pastebin :)
[13:52] <sydney> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[13:53] <lumia900> ActionParsnip: i have hostname only for 127.0.1.1
[13:53] <lumia900> do i need to remove that so  that i can resolve on its own
[13:54] <garotosopa> trndr: I plugged in an USB keyboard and TAB works  in BIOS, but tab doesn't work on EeePC keyboard. So it's a hardware issue?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> lumia900: is the system you cannot ping not the localhost?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> sydney: if you make a fresh ubuntu user, is it the same there?
[13:56] <hateball> lumia900: If you can "ping localhost" but not "ping cml-indiafs", have a look in /etc/resolv.conf so it's not trying to search a weird domain or something
[13:57] <sydney> BRB ;)
[13:57] <lumia900> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8615335/
[13:57] <trndr> garotosopa: Likly, you could try to disconnect the keyboard from the mobo and reconnect it. If you're lucky then it's just the ribbon cable which is disloged slightly.
[13:59] <pikaren> chrome feels much faster than chromium for me
[13:59] <hateball> lumia900: ... you're pinging from windows. that has nothing to do with the settings on your server. come on
[13:59] <lumia900> why not we can get hostname ping from windows machine ?
[14:00] <lumia900> but i was able to do that some times back
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> lumia900: the system isnt sending its hostname to the DHCP server
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> lumia900: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:00] <lumia900> then DHCP server is WATCHgaurd HAS SOME PROBLEM ?
[14:01] <lumia900> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> lumia900: sudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf          change send host-name "<hostname>";      to:   send host-name "cml-indiafs";     save the file and run:    sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:03] <sydney> It would seem not.
[14:04] <sydney> Did actionparsnip leave?
[14:04] <zyuiop> hello there
[14:04] <zyuiop> is itpossible to install sendmail in one server and webmin into an other and make webmin control user configuration, is that possible ?
[14:05] <lumia900> apt-get install gedit is getting lot time :(
[14:06] <rom1504> get a faster computer/connection
[14:06] <hateball> you could have just kept using whatever editor you used before...
[14:06] <lumia900> root@CML-INDIAFS:/# gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[14:06] <lumia900> (gedit:5241): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[14:07] <lumia900> root@CML-INDIAFS:/# cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[14:07] <lumia900> cat: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf: No such file or directory
[14:07] <lumia900> so i need to create a new file for this
[14:07] <zyuiop> is itpossible to install sendmail in one server and webmin into an other and make webmin control user configuration, is that possible ?
[14:08] <Pici> zyuiop: Webmin is completely unsupported here.
[14:09] <Pici> !webmin
[14:14] <helmut_> hi
[14:15] <sydney> hey
[14:17] <decci> I need to set up a DNS server that would tell me all the domains registered in the world every day (or minute or hour).
[14:17] <decci> And specially ".com.br" domains newly registered.
[14:17] <decci> So basically I want to track all new registered domains in the internet.
[14:18] <decci> Is it do able
[14:18] <ikonia> decci: how is this an ubuntu issue ?
[14:19] <decci> Ikonia: coz I want to configure it on ubuntu
[14:20] <ikonia> decci: not really an ubuntu issue
[14:20] <funcpla> I don't really think there's anything Ubuntu specific about that problem
[14:21] <ikonia> decci: look at people like netcraft, or the top level dns registrars,
[14:24] <gladioacuto> hi there
[14:25] <sydney> Anyone with an answer to my problem?
[14:25] <nusr> i have a problem. i installed ubuntu wrongly (without a swap). currently i have daily buffer overflow? when i have too many tabs open on mozilla or i have a vm running..just that one last mint if you know what i mean (monty python ref) before the system becomes unresponsive (alt cntrl f1-6 does not do anything)....is this the problem? if i reinstall with a small swap space will that fix the insufficient ram problem and hard reset req?
[14:26] <somsip> sydney: have you confirm it's not a hardware issue?
[14:26] <gladioacuto> what applets do the power button and battery status in unity-2d-panel link to? Is it possible to use them standalone?
[14:27] <somsip> nusr: is it running out of memory? Run top and open your tabs and see what happens.
[14:27] <sydney> somsip: Ive never had an issue with it before this latest install a month ago.
[14:27] <somsip> sydney: hardware wears out. My old mouse was fine for 7 years, then started double clicking for middle click suddenly. It's worth discounting this possibility before you look for a software solution
[14:28] <nusr> somsip: it's not just the tabs...i will have a Calc notebook open, and maybe a pdf..it's just that one last thing i do..sometimes innocuous like one more tab..and not obvious mistake like opening a new vm
[14:28] <somsip> nusr: pick any testable scenario and test it
[14:28] <nusr> i think i reset my randomize_va_space back to 2
[14:29] <sydney> somsip: And i don't have this issue in a different account on the same computer. ;)
[14:29] <nusr> somsip: so is it just ram insufficient? or do i need a swap space because it presently does not have one.  i have top running. what am i looking for?
[14:29] <somsip> sydney: so you're happy you've discounted the possibility of a hardware problem. Ok - now you may need software solutions
[14:30] <somsip> nusr: for 'free' and 'cached mem' to approach 0 when you enter a testable scenario. If you go all of the way, for it to crash in the same way it usually does when there is 0 mem available
[14:32] <somsip> nusr: you could also check the /var/log/syslog for 'OOM' errors, being Out Of Memory, but that might not pick up every case. I'm not sure
[14:33] <nusr> somsip: i'm looking at top now and I see how the system can fail...wine consistently hogs 20% cpu..
[14:35] <nusr> somsip: my caches mem is too high..how can i make it go to zero
[14:35] <somsip> nusr: it's fine. See http://linuxatemyram.com (from memory, no pun intended)
[14:37] <nusr> somsip: ok. that still leaves the question of swap..i don't have one..could that be the problem? shouldn't there be a tiny space available so i can still killall when i need?
[14:37] <somsip> nusr: you are getting distracted by the issue of swap. If you don't crash because you have no swap, you don't necessarily need it. If you want to add it, just add it.
[14:38] <nusr> somsip: just troubleshooting because i don't know what else can be done is limit mem usage so i always have access to terminal and not buffer overflow
[14:39] <somsip> nusr: 'buffer overflow' is probably not the right term here. What do you really mean when you use this phrase?
[14:40] <nusr> somsip: i mean i have used all available memory,  beyond what my system has
[14:41] <upgrader> hello. i am trying to upgrade to new machine that is 64-bit instead of 32-bit. i used "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" to install my old packages onto new machine. must i restart to see/use those packages? "dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall" does not show ALL old packages. confused. thanks for help!
[14:41] <somsip> nusr: and usually, the kernel will limit mem usage, and it should shut down apps it needs to when it has to. I could be way wrong here but its how I understand it. http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer
[14:42] <Mugen_Deutsche> hi guys i am installing compiz in my ubuntu 14.4 is that safe ?
[14:42] <cable> Mugen_Deutsche does it contain a virus?
[14:42] <cable> :p
[14:43] <somsip> nusr: so when you encounter an OOM condition, the OS will handle that for you, in a way that is possibly ugly for you, but it should not just crash. Which is what you imply, though you haven't clarified this
[14:43] <Mugen_Deutsche> well no. what i mean is if it will not mess up my ubuntu ?
[14:43] <Mugen_Deutsche> i am a newbie by the way
[14:43] <yeticry> hello, world!
[14:44] <somsip> nusr: and that's not a buffer oveflow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_overflow
[14:44] <nusr> somsip: my system freezes..it is not a BSOD, but i am not able to do anything...the mouse can move milimetres but nothin else happens
[14:44] <hans_> hi im running ubuntu-mate but i cant find my nas drives for sabnzbd
[14:45] <somsip> nusr: and have you got to this point while you are watching top to see what happens? Do you have entries in /var/log/syslog when you reboot, or does it 'get better' if you leave it for a while? Does the HD light flash while this is happening?
[14:46] <nusr> i am watching top..and am going through /var/log/syslog now
[14:48] <upgrader> Hi all, I'm upgrading to 14.04 using "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade". Now I want to use BackinTime to restore /home folder, but it appears this and many other packages were not installed. Must I restart to see results of "dselect-upgrade"?
[14:51] <gladioacuto> no answers for me?
[14:51] <pikaren> wow
[14:51] <pikaren> ubuntu now has python3 preinstalled?
[14:51] <somsip> pikaren: yes
[14:52] <somsip> pikaren: but 2.7 is the default (link from /usr/bin/python)
[14:52] <pikaren> hmm
[14:53] <nusr> somsip: these are the errors....acpi PNP0A03:00: _OSC failed (AE_NOT_FOUND); disabling ASPM  i8042: Failed to disable AUX port, but continuing anyway... Is this a SiS EXT4-fs (sda7): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro vboxdrv: module verification failed: signature and/or  required key missing - tainting kernel GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service
[14:54] <nusr> somsip: i looked further back in the log to a previous freeze, and the same errors appeared
[14:58] <aguitel> 14.10 is up ?
[14:58] <somsip> nusr: I have no idea if that is likely to be a fatal error or not. Probably one to ask in the virtualbox channel. Though you said it didn't always happen when vbox was running so it could be a false lead. You could even have memory errors
[14:58] <somsip> aguitel: 23rd is due date
[14:58] <somsip> !memtest | nusr
[14:58] <aguitel> thanks
[14:59] <somsip> !testing | nusr
[14:59] <genii> aguitel: It will be in normal release sometime in the afternoon GMT of the 23rd
[15:00] <nusr> somsip: thank you very much for your help and time. i'll check out memtest86+ package and see if it is my mem
[15:01] <somsip> nusr: np.
[15:03] <cliffer1> i have a program whcih outputs stuff on the console but it is not possible to grep it or to > it to a file
[15:03] <cliffer1> is there anything i can do?
[15:04] <alexgl> i'm setting up drbl on ubuntu server and when configuring it, I get an error of: Package of pxelinux was installed, but pxelinux boot file not found!      anyone know where i can find a goog example of pxelinux boot file?
[15:04] <somsip> cliffer1: what program?
[15:04] <macbook> hello
[15:04] <cliffer1> somsip: its called FileDP, i doubt you knopw it: http://www.securitylearn.net/2012/10/18/extracting-data-protection-class-from-files-on-ios/
[15:05] <genii> cliffer1:  ./programname  >> logfilename 2>&1
[15:06] <cliffer1> yeah i just got that i uses stderr...
[15:06] <cliffer1> WHY?
[15:06] <hitori> how can I enable ssh server? `sudo update-rc.d ssh enable` gives me this: http://sprunge.us/WQBE
[15:07] <mohn305> hello everyone
[15:08] <somsip> hitori: sshd possibly?
[15:08] <somsip> hitori: this is on ubuntu?
[15:09] <hitori> somsip: yes, 14.04
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> hitori: sudo apt-get install openssh-server     will install an SSH service for you
[15:09] <hitori> somsip: `sudo update-rc.d sshd` http://sprunge.us/MHOa
[15:09] <mohn305> my phmyadmin is not working.... i think i messed up with this... n wanna reinstall it how to do tha?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> hitori: the ssh startup is added to the rc levels in postinst
[15:10] <hitori> ActionParsnip: `openssh-server is already the newest version.`
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> hitori: sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server
[15:11] <upgrader> not only did "sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/backup/installed_packages.log && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" fail to install ALL packages to new machine, but now i've lost permissions to mount a USB!!
[15:11] <upgrader> "not authorized to perform operation"
[15:12] <[1]Zealot> i agree
[15:15] <hitori> ActionParsnip: thanks, but I still can't disable it with `sudo update-rc.d ssh disable`
[15:16] <mohn305> my phpmyadmin is not working ... can someone help me?
[15:17] <somsip> mohn305: how is it 'not working'? What did you do to it? Did you install from the repo or from source?
[15:19] <mohn305> somsip,  i just installed in terminal from the ubuntu repo ... sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[15:20] <somsip> mohn305: and answers to my other questions?
[15:22] <mohn305> somsip, its not working means .. in browser localhost/phpmyadmin shows Not Found
[15:22] <mohn305> The requested URL /phpmyadmin was not found on this server.
[15:22] <mohn305> Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> mohn305: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[15:22] <somsip> mohn305: and is this happening immediately after install or have you changed anything?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> mohn305: I  suggest you dont use stuff like that and learn how to manage your OS properly
[15:24] <mohn305> somsip, its just happened after the install
[15:25] <nixfreak> I copied the sources.list and /var/cache/apt to another machine but how do I resync all the packages? Do I have to point to the archive dir in sources.list ?
[15:25] <nixfreak> having a hell of a time trying to figure this out
[15:25] <somsip> mohn305: and have you created the link referred to in the URL ActionParsnip just gave you?
[15:25] <nixfreak> The machine is offline
[15:26] <decci> I have a camera which dumps the images into desktop folder.These are raw files.whenever there is any file under that particular folder it should be dumped to centralized NAS.
[15:26] <decci> he Centralized NAS. The share from the NAS cannot be made as the directory, as the cameras at the upload location cannot understand a share.  Once the files are in the Centralized NAS share, the files has to be pushed automatically to the Download  location.is it possible to automate this
[15:27] <nixfreak> I copied the sources.list and /var/cache/apt to another machine but how do I resync all the packages? Do I have to point to the archive dir in sources.list ?
[15:27] <nixfreak> has anyone done this before ?
[15:27] <ikonia> nixfreak: resync ???
[15:27] <ikonia> nixfreak: that's just a cache file
[15:27] <ikonia> or set of cached files
[15:27] <genii> !apt-offline
[15:28] <genii> Hm
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> decci: I believe so, cheese can be used to take shots from a webcam....
[15:28] <hitori> What package provides these links: `System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/ssh do not exist`?
[15:28] <nixfreak> ok so just having the cache file won't work then even though the *.deb files are in archives?
[15:28] <mohn305> somsip, after running this code to reconfigure..'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow phpmyadmin'
[15:29] <mohn305> somsip,  An error occurred while installing the database:                          │
[15:29] <mohn305>  │                                                                           │
[15:29] <mohn305>  │ ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using      │
[15:29] <mohn305>  │ password: YES)
[15:29] <somsip> mohn305: if you need to reconfigure it, that would be the way to go
[15:29] <mkumar> nixcraft: try using apt-get or synaptic
[15:29] <somsip> mohn305: have you setup a root user and set the password?
[15:29] <ikonia> decci: please show me the output of the command "uname -a" please
[15:29] <mohn305> somsip, yess
[15:29] <nixfreak> apt-get looks at sources.list
[15:29] <somsip> mohn305: can you connect on the command line using that user?
[15:29] <ikonia> nixfreak: thats the same on pretty much any machine
[15:30] <uhun> hello everyone, in the middle of work the computer returned to login screen, and when I entered password, loaded the desktop as if restarted (without showing the interrupted session), yet without being shut down, rebooted and reloading desktop
[15:30] <uhun> never happened before
[15:30] <ikonia> sounds like Xorg crashed
[15:30] <mohn305> somsip,  no i cant.. it give me an error ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'monir'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[15:31] <somsip> mohn305: that's beacuse you're using monir as a user and not root (you said you had set root up)
[15:31] <nixfreak> ok so copying the cache file and archives files to another system won't work is that correct
[15:31] <mohn305> somsip,  how to use it as root interminal
[15:31] <somsip> mohn305: mysql -u root -p
[15:32] <hitori> ok. I fixed my ssh service issue by running this command `sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults`
[15:32] <hitori> thanks
[15:32] <nixfreak> !apt-offline
[15:33] <mohn305> somsip,  i think i got lil idea abt it.. the password may be not working
[15:33] <somsip> !offline | nixfreak
[15:33] <somsip> mohn305: that will often cause a failure when trying to connect with that password
[15:33] <mohn305> somsip,  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[15:33] <nixfreak> !APTonCD
[15:34] <mohn305> somsip,  how to reset the pass in mysql
[15:34] <somsip> mohn305: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[15:37] <mohn305> somsip,  from the link the second line of code is not working
[15:38] <somsip> mohn305: which line of code would that be. Help me a little here...
[15:38] <mohn305> somsip, sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables --skip-networking &
[15:39] <mohn305> somsip,  error '[1] 4094
[15:39] <mohn305> monir@monir-desktop:~$ 141021 21:36:09 [Warning] Using unique option prefix key_buffer instead of key_buffer_size is deprecated and will be removed in a future release. Please use the full name instead.'
[15:39] <upgrader> now i can't "enable networking"--so what is "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" doing? i can't find packages i want, but i can lose USB mount permission and ability to use internet. advice?
[15:39] <ricvail> hello, is this the right place to ask for help with GRUB problems
[15:39] <ricvail> ?
[15:40] <georg> hi guys. I have some trouble to install nvidia-prime on ubuntu14.04/64. When I install the nvidia-331 or nvidia-331-update, lighdm doesn't work or at least I cannot see my gui. When I uninstall mesa-utils, nvidia-* than it works again after a reboot... Any ideas what I should check or where I should find a log file for that?
[15:41] <mohn305> somsip,  anyway i want to reinstall mysql apache and phpmyadmin... could u help me
[15:41] <somsip> mohn305: I'd rather not to be honest. I don't mind helping a bit, but I don't have time for hand-holding through that process
[15:42] <mohn305> somsip, ah its allright
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> mohn305: what do you use phpmyadmin for, exactly?
[15:43] <mohn305> ActionParsnip,  for database
[15:43] <upgrader> is there a better channel to discuss problems upgrading to 14.04?
[15:43] <Toph> upgrader,,, #ubuntu
[15:44] <somsip> upgrader: you are in it
[15:44] <Toph> upgrader,,, oops,, sorry,, we are in #ubuntu
[15:45] <LingoOS> georg: this is ubuntu ;P
[15:47] <georg> LingoOS: I think so ;)
[15:48] <ricvail> #grub
[15:48] <georg> I could also use GDM instead of lightdm, but on ubuntuusers.de it is said to use lightdm
[15:49] <zyuiop> hello there
[15:49] <zyuiop> i got list where i got user mail id i simply would like the part which is after @
[15:49] <zyuiop> how to extract that information ?
[15:50] <manlin> zyuiop: use cut command
[15:50] <gladioacuto> hallo
[15:51] <zyuiop> how to cut after @ ?
[15:51] <Almoullim> ?
[15:52] <gladioacuto> in unity-2d-panel there are some applets i really like: wifi(nm-applet) battery (which points to gnome-power-manager i guess) and power button. Which are the latter two applet names? I found out nm-applet, and now i can use it outside unity, but i'd like to do the same for those latter two
[15:52] <ricvail> hello? i wanted to remove linux from my dual-boot pc, so i deleted all partitions except the wndows recovery one, and created one big ntfs partition. now trying to boot displays grub rescue console. gparted live usb has access to linux terminal. I need to boot the recovery partition, it should also fix the mbr
[15:54] <manlin> zyuiop: if you have the list in a file called emaillist then      cat emaillist | cut -d"@" -f2
[15:54] <upgrader> Toph and somsip, thanks. having impossible time migrating to new machine using "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" which should be flawless but keeps blowing up my new machine (can't mount, can't internet, ...)
[15:55] <zyuiop> -f2 for what ? manlin
[15:55] <Toph> upgrader,,, well, ask your questions here,, some pretty smart people in here
[15:55] <mohn305> any php expert here?
[15:55] <somsip> mohn305: just ask the question, but be prepared to be referred to ##php
[15:56] <manlin> zyuiop: to cut the second field
[15:56] <zyuiop> perfect working but there is  \ after the domain name how to remove that one to ?
[15:56] <gladioacuto> no answers for me?
[15:57] <manlin> cat emaillist | cut -d"@" -f2 | cut -d"\" -f1
[15:57] <mohn305> somsip,  it takes 5-10 min to install the lamp stack... recently i switched from windows thats why im facing the problem...
[15:57] <somsip> mohn305: that doesn't appear to be a question
[15:57] <mohn305> somsip,  but u dont have time for 10 min
[15:57] <somsip> mohn305: ok - I'll just ignore you then
[15:57] <pzn> I did by mistake "dpkg -i *.deb" and it installed or upgraded a dozen of packages. in which log can I see which packages were upgrades and which were installed?
[15:58] <mohn305> somsip,  thats stupidity of u
[15:58] <manlin> cat emaillist | cut -d"@" -f2 | cut -d"\\" -f1
[15:58] <zyuiop> | cut -d"@" -f2 | cut -d"\" -f1 not working manlin  it gives : >
[15:58] <mohn305> somsip,  cuz u dont know what php is so u cant help help thats it but why u bluffing
[15:59] <LingoOS> zyuiop: while read email; do echo ${f##*@}; done < "/path/to/file"
[15:59] <LingoOS> zyuiop: while read email; do echo ${email##*@}; done < "/path/to/file"
[15:59] <mohn305> somsip,  why u r telling u dont have time but u r still here
[15:59] <upgrader> Toph, 6 commands to migrate: sudo cp ~/backup/sources.bak /etc/apt/sources.list ; sudo apt-key add ~/backup/repositories.keys ; sudo apt-get update ; ##sudo dpkg --clear-selections ; sudo apt-get install dselect ; sudo dselect update ; sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/backup/installed_packages.log && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[15:59] <mkumar> pxn: /var/log/apt/history.log
[16:00] <manlin> zyuiop: sorry it should be double \
[16:00] <upgrader> i then sudo apt-get -f install, update, upgrade until no errors
[16:00] <manlin> zyuiop: cat emaillist | cut -d"@" -f2 | cut -d"\\" -f1
[16:00] <upgrader> then i restart
[16:00] <bartel> hello, how can i make the smallest (in disk spage) ubuntu virtual machine? Using the minimal CD still requires 1.5GB. Is there anyway to get it smaller?
[16:00] <Toph> upgrader,,, sorry,, I'm not one of the experts
[16:00] <xiaolong> Hey! My vlc and videos app has no sound. Rest of the apps work fine. Any clues?
[16:00] <xiaolong> Im on 14.04
[16:00] <upgrader> when i restart, i do not have the machine i want with the packages i want
[16:00] <mkumar> pzn: /var/log/apt/history.log
[16:01] <zyuiop> perfect working manlin
[16:01] <zyuiop> THANKS  a lot
[16:01] <pzn> mkumar, command was done directly with "dpkg -i", didn't use apt. nothing in apt history
[16:01] <upgrader> what am i doing wrong in my migration and restore??
[16:01] <tarik> lo
[16:01] <pzn> mkumar, /var/log/dpkg.log does not show which one were replaced/upgraded and which one was a new install
[16:02] <zyuiop> now i would like to add next to  each line i would like to add USELESS
[16:02] <xiaolong> Hey! My vlc and videos app has no sound. Rest of the apps work fine. Any clues?
[16:03] <LingoOS> zyuiop: try adding emails in a file, separated by lines.. then try what I gave you ;)
[16:03] <zyuiop> lol
[16:04] <zyuiop> how to add a word next to an other
[16:04] <zyuiop> ?
[16:04] <zyuiop> when you got thousand lines ?
[16:05] <Pici> zyuiop: You might want to check out the topic in #bash for more information on writing scripts.
[16:07] <fshp> hi! How to lock workspace in second monitor? I will have 1 workspace on secont monitor and 4 on first.
[16:07] <gladioacuto> no answers for me^
[16:07] <mkumar> pzn: try /var/lg/dpkg.log
[16:08] <mkumar> pzn: /var/log/dpkg.log
[16:13] <manlin> zyuiop: cat emaillist | cut -d"@" -f2 | cut -d"\\" -f1 > temp.txt
[16:13] <manlin> zyuiop: while read line; do echo $line USELESS;done < temp.txt
[16:13] <manlin> zyuiop: #bash would be a better place for this discussion
[16:14] <daznis666> Sup guys :)
[16:15] <tester> holaaa
[16:17] <Aetion> hello
[16:18] <Hurri877> Hey i'm trying to build a package with gitbuildpackage and i'm encountering some issues and was wondering where I could ask for help?
[16:22] <iptable> manlin, zyuiop cat emaillist | cut -d"@" -f2 | cut -d"\\" -f1 | while read line; do echo "${line} USELESS";done > result.txt
[16:24] <manlin> iptable: cool... i'm not a big fan of lengthy command :)
[16:24] <Jalk> Hi there
[16:25] <iptable> or cat emaillist |awk -F'@' '{print $2}' |sed -E 's/\\$//g' | while read line; do echo "${line} USELESS";done > result.txt
[16:25] <iptable> that would work better as it only removes the \ at the end... well, it's from memory so might need tweaking :P
[16:25] <daznis666> I would so much like to learn to code, but damn thats hard :“
[16:26] <iptable> manlin, I'm a one-liner-crazed-basher :P
[16:26] <Hawkerz> don't all the cool kids use zsh these days
[16:26] <iptable> hmpf
[16:27] <iptable> zsh is what they teach you in uni. my brother was forced to learn it :/
[16:27] <rom1504> they teach sh here
[16:28] <iptable> zsh in UK
[16:28] <iptable> although that's a bit awkward since bash is the standard on 99% of platforms now. anyways...
[16:28] <daznis666> when i went to uni, they tought me how to "code" in cmd.exe. :D
[16:28] <rom1504> and sh is available on 100% of decent linuxes
[16:29] <rom1504> (ie not android)
[16:29] <iptable> ahh, the batch files
[16:29] <iptable> brings back memories. choice /n ...
[16:29] <iptable> rom1504, sh on most distros is actually just a symlink to bash
[16:29] <daznis666> it would be ok if i could make a bot in cmd.exe.... :D
[16:29] <Hawkerz> I feel like MS appropriated a bunch of really good stuff, and then made some really unnecessary changes just to seem different
[16:30] <Hawkerz> and over the years they haven't improved any of it
[16:30] <Hawkerz> like there is no tab completion by default in windows? wtf
[16:30] <daznis666> no
[16:30] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:30] <daznis666> there is no completion.
[16:31] <ClickClickNext> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time, well, I'm testing it with a usb pen drive.  I cannot access internet now, any advice?
[16:31] <iptable> ClickClickNext, WiFi or cabled?
[16:32] <ClickClickNext> Wifi, i haven't tried connecting the cable yet
[16:32] <daznis666> ClickClickNext, irc does not need internet
[16:33] <daznis666> this trol made my day :D
[16:34] <iptable> ClickClickNext, if you have no internet, how are you on this chat btw?
[16:34] <Pici> People often have other computers...
[16:34] <iptable> daznis666, he could be using IRC from phone or tablet...
[16:34] <somsip> zyuiop: sed 's/\\.*/ USELESS/g' emaillist | cut -d"@" -f2
[16:35] <iptable> people often do that
[16:35] <Hawkerz> Pici, is it really necessary to strictly enforce rules about offtopic conversation over a couple of lines exchanged in a room that's been mostly dead?
[16:35] <tgm4883> I'm going to go out on a limb and say that computer companies had this crazy idea to make a profit and sell more than 1 computer
[16:35] <ClickClickNext> Using another computer
[16:35] <tgm4883> Hawkerz: that wasn't enforcement, that was a reminder
[16:35] <iptable> ClickClickNext, is your WiFi connected on that ubuntu box?
[16:35] <ClickClickNext> When I connect ethernet, it states that it is connected.  However, the preinstalled firefox cannot get to the internet
[16:35] <daznis666> iptable, holly, i forgot you can access the net from several devices...
[16:36] <ClickClickNext> I have modem & a router, I am running ethernet from the router to the machine but still cannot access the web
[16:37] <daznis666> can you connect to the router from firefox? ClickClickNext
[16:37] <ClickClickNext> I'll check
[16:38] <daznis666> ClickClickNext,  if you can connect to the router via firefox, problem isn't on ubuntu it's mostly elsewhere isp... maybe
[16:40] <iptable> ClickClickNext, 1. connect via WiFi. 2. execute ifconfig wlan0, 3. check if it displays an IP, like 192.168.0.10 or similar. 4. if so, ping 8.8.8.8. see if that works. 5. retry tests with cable if any tests failed. 6. report back to us.
[16:41] <daznis666> iptable, everyone has own methods, right? :)
[16:41] <ClickClickNext> Okay
[16:42] <daznis666> Anyone using chrome on ubuntu 14.04 ? it started to freeze my machine after like 6hours of use. What could it be
[16:43] <iptable> daznis666, well, I like methodical troubleshooting by removing one step at a time form the equation until the troubleshooting circle is so small I can troubleshoot it
[16:44] <daznis666> iptable, doing the same, just without a terminal :))
[16:44] <iptable> I don't trust GUI enough
[16:44] <Hawkerz> doesn't chrome have an error logging internal url?
[16:44] <daznis666> it doesn't show an error
[16:44] <Hawkerz> and yeah, you can launch it from the command line with xtreme verbosity and pipe stderr somewhere useful
[16:45] <Hawkerz> daznis666, are your video drivers up to date and installed correctly? do you have hardware acceleration turned on in chrome?
[16:45] <daznis666> i use nvidia - 331
[16:45] <daznis666> ill check
[16:45] <iptable> me too
[16:45] <gladioacuto> could someone tell me what applications do those funny buttons on unity-2d-panel, like power button battery status, link to? I found out that the wifi button links to nm-applet which now i can use calling in standalone mode, i would like to do the same with the other two
[16:45] <iptable> :)
[16:46] <daznis666> Hawkerz, should i turn of hardware acceleration?
[16:46] <Hawkerz> daznis666, I was going to suggest turning it on :p
[16:46] <daznis666> it's on
[16:46] <Hawkerz> I use chrome, and chrome beta, and both work fine
[16:47] <Hawkerz> you sure it's not a tab you're leaving open that's crashing it
[16:47] <Hawkerz> could be you didn't install flashplayer correctly or something, idk
[16:48] <Ineedhelp> ok so i need help mith getting a gui onto my server. i typed in  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop and i got :no file or such directory. so i did update and it said unable to mkdir /var/lib/sudo/name of server: no such files, so i did upgrade and same thing happens. how the hell do i get an gui onto this thing. do i need to put it onto a flash drive first?
[16:48] <erol007> hi leut
[16:48] <daznis666> Hawkerz, maybe it's a tab, but it crashed on gmail.com and youtube.com
[16:48] <ClickClickNext> upon executing "ifconfig wlan0" it states device not found.  Is that suggesting this machine does not have a wireless adapter?
[16:48] <alaba> Hi, little question. I need to install Ubuntu to a friend's notebook (Her Windows sucks and she is really annoyed because of that). She has a dual core cpu with 64bit architecture, but she has only 2GB RAM and I guess the bottleneck is the hard disk. Is it better to run 32Bit Ubuntu or 64 bit? On the one hand, 64 bit has bigger words and more instructions (AFAIK), but 32bit has smaller binaries. What version (32 bit or 64 bit?)is proba
[16:49] <iptable> ClickClickNext, either that OR your WiFi adapter is not compatible
[16:49] <daznis666> alaba, 64bit anyway
[16:49] <Hawkerz> alaba, yeah, 64bit
[16:49] <Hawkerz> those specs are fine
[16:49] <Ineedhelp> ok so i need help mith getting a gui onto my server. i typed in  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop and i got :no file or such directory. so i did update and it said unable to mkdir /var/lib/sudo/name of server: no such files, so i did upgrade and same thing happens. how the hell do i get an gui onto this thing. do i need to put it onto a flash drive first?
[16:50] <iptable> ClickClickNext, run lspci and lsusb and see if it shows something "wifi-like" ;)
[16:50] <daznis666> alaba, 64 or 32 has nothing to do with ram capacy
[16:50] <Hawkerz> I ran ubuntu (barely) on a tiny netbook with 1gb ram and an atom processor
[16:50] <Hawkerz> (I would not recommend that)
[16:50] <Hawkerz> daznis666, crashed as in it gives you taht 'this page is not responding' thing?
[16:50] <Hawkerz> or crashed as in, became unresonsive
[16:50] <Hawkerz> ^ spell that correctly
[16:50] <rubiksmomo> I installed Ubuntu 3 times today. Every time I tried to load it up it kept complaining "cryptsetup failed, bad passphrase or options". What could cause it?
[16:50] <Ineedhelp> i dont mean to sound like a moron, just creating a jinzora music server for a school project.
[16:50] <iptable> rubiksmomo, trying to do encryption?
[16:51] <daznis666> Hawkerz, loading, usually it loads very fast, but after alot of browsing chrome gets tired and freezes, it does not crash.
[16:51] <rubiksmomo> iptable: Yeah
[16:51] <iptable> rubiksmomo, set a simple password and try again. one that doesn't have special shars
[16:51] <alaba> i know, but 64bit can address more and due to not having more than 4gb, 64bit has no advantages
[16:51] <somsip> iptable: there is no real need to put a gui on a server. What do you need it for?
[16:51] <alaba> that was my consideration
[16:51] <iptable> rubiksmomo, my guess it that the keyboard setup is different during install than once installed
[16:51] <iptable> somsip, I never used a GUI on a server... wrong person ;)
[16:51] <daznis666> alaba, add like 4gb swap space to be good :)
[16:52] <rubiksmomo> iptable: I guess I have to go install it 4th time...
[16:52] <alaba> daznis666 well, I'd like to minimize hard disk access
[16:52] <Hawkerz> daznis666, do you scroll with a mousewheel?
[16:52] <somsip> iptable: oops. Meant for Ineedhelp
[16:53] <daznis666> Hawkerz, yep
[16:53] <somsip> Ineedhelp: so why do you need a gui on a server?
[16:53] <Ineedhelp> i would much rather work in command line then gui (im a networker) but theres no command book and the commands dont make anysence to my tiny cisco brain.
[16:53] <Hawkerz> daznis666, does the page lag while scrolling?
[16:53] <Hawkerz> like, takes a second to catch up?
[16:53] <iptable> Ineedhelp, learn it?
[16:53] <iptable> Ineedhelp, for a server, most things cannot be done from a GUI
[16:54] <daznis666> alaba, it wont use all 4gb , but if it has enough space it will choke to death.
[16:54] <daznis666> Hawkerz, nop
[16:54] <ClickClickNext> Okay
[16:54] <iptable> Ineedhelp, so it will not help you. linux server software is a command-line-configuration software.
[16:54] <upgrader> anyone know about migrating packages from 32-bit 14.04 to 64-bit 14.04, is there a reason "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" would not work properly?
[16:54] <Hawkerz> hmmk, that's really weird.  Do you use adblock, daznis666
[16:54] <daznis666> Hawkerz, ye, everyone does.
[16:54] <iptable> upgrader, you are about 6 motnhs late. 10.04 is not supported and packages no longer available for the GUI
[16:54] <gladioacuto> my sound in 12.04 LTS doesn't work anymore, what's going on? At the startup lightdm reproduces the standard sound...in my fluxbox session now no sound are played
[16:55] <Hawkerz> hum, that's really odd then
[16:55] <daznis666> iptable, it's 14.04
[16:55] <Hawkerz> what version of chrome?
[16:55] <somsip> upgrader: you have 32 bit installed and you want to upgrade to 64 bit? Nooooo...
[16:55] <iptable> daznis666, I know
[16:55] <upgrader> iptable: 14.04 system to 14.04 system
[16:55] <daznis666> Hawkerz, Version 38.0.2125.104 (64-bit)
[16:55] <iptable> oh
[16:55] <Hawkerz> Version 37.0.2062.120 (64-bit)
[16:55] <iptable> daznis666, upgrader sorry. eye-number-reading-issue
[16:56] <Hawkerz> this is a new issue daznis666?
[16:56] <Ineedhelp> all i need is to set up a LAMP webserver, which for me is much easier using gui, and put jinzora  on. but i keep hitting tiny roadblocks that i have to search for hours to find a solution too. so id be much easier for me to have a gui. and the damned thing just ont download
[16:56] <daznis666> Hawkerz, it's from chrome stable ppa from google
[16:56] <upgrader> somsip: so i can't take package list from 32-bit system and ask 64-bit system to install those same packages?
[16:56] <iptable> upgrader, I wasn't aware you can migrate to 64 bit from 32 bit. that's libc and kernel and all package and library upgrades. I would expect it to break during upgrade
[16:56] <Hawkerz> daznis666, yeah, but were you using chrome before you updated to this version?
[16:56] <alaba> daznis666 it's not about the 4GB, it's about having a fluent system that does not need to access the harddrive the whole time. so, you recommend 64bit anyway?
[16:56] <Hawkerz> it's possible that the upgrade breaks things
[16:56] <daznis666> alaba,  yea
[16:57] <Hawkerz> alaba, 64 bit doesn't access the haddrive anymore than 32 bit would
[16:57] <Ineedhelp> all the videos and how to's n jinzora use a gui. there are none that  can find using a command line interface
[16:57] <somsip> upgrader: that's not what you implied in the last question. Upgrading from 32 to 64 is theoretically possible but a practical nightmare (according to the one source I found who tried to document doing it)
[16:57] <upgrader> it appears to me that dselect-upgrade isn't doing its job, but maybe you're suggesting that's because 64-bit system won't allow certain packages..
[16:57] <iptable> Ineedhelp, for server software? like what?
[16:57] <Hawkerz> upgrader, so you're not trying to upgrade from 32bit 10.04 to 64bit 14.04?
[16:57] <iptable> upgrader, that's just one of the issues
[16:57] <alaba> hawkerz i know, but binaries are bigger if they are compiled for 64bit and i have only 2gb ram.
[16:58] <Hawkerz> or alaba
[16:58] <Hawkerz> whatever, you're all confusing me
[16:58] <daznis666> Hawkerz, well i installed sigil an ebook format tool and then ubuntu sdk dev crap http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa/ubuntu and updated the software maybe something is bad in there, before there was no freeze
[16:58] <iptable> alaba, with 2GB RAM, use xubuntu/linux mint or similar and don't use chrome and you will be fine
[16:58] <Ineedhelp> its a Jinzora Music program put into a web server setup using LAMP.
[16:58] <upgrader> somsip: machine2 has 64-bit installed, machine1 i use every day, but it is 32-bit 14.04. how can i make machine2 look like machine1?
[16:58] <iptable> upgrader, reinstall?
[16:58] <alaba> iptable: mint sucks
[16:58] <Hawkerz> 2gb of RAM is still plenty to run ubuntu, but yeah, performance will be better with one of the lighter versions
[16:59] <iptable> alaba, personal opinion. I'm guessing you haven't tried it for years...
[16:59] <somsip> upgrader: ah - I see now. I'd reinstall too.
[16:59] <iptable> alaba, I use mint. use xubuntu then or buy more RAM
[16:59] <Hawkerz> daznis666, is it possible that chrome updated when you installed all that?
[16:59] <daznis666> Hawkerz, doubt it
[16:59] <Snaps> I did a release upgrade to utopic but it fails to install the linux-image-3.16.0-23-generic package due to the initrd being missing. Ive tried everything I can come up with to no avail: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8617162/    Any Ideas?
[17:00] <daznis666> alaba, use minimal cd and take all the lightweight stuff custom
[17:00] <Hawkerz> hmmk, would be a weird issue anyawy. Who knows, I bet the ubuntu sdk fucked you up
[17:00] <unixt> cia
[17:00] <Hawkerz> i'd try purging it and checking :p
[17:00]  * trollolol is away: I'm busy
[17:00] <upgrader> hawkerz, iptable, somsip: maybe i don't know meaning of migrate vs. upgrade vs. reinstall, but i hope my last comment was clear: machine2 has 64-bit installed, machine1 i use every day, but it is 32-bit 14.04. how can i make machine2 look like machine1? I don't know how a "reinstall" will help. The 64-bit is a "fresh install" off live USB and is waiting to be populated with machine1's properties, packages, files, /home folder, etc.
[17:00] <daznis666> Hawkerz, is there a way to remove those upgrades, like downgrade?
[17:00] <somsip> alaba: I put minimal install with openbox on a 500MB RAM 701 eeepc and it was fine for simple stuff.
[17:00] <alaba> iptable: I installed it several friends and everytime it got a corrupted database after a few months...
[17:01] <Hawkerz> daznis666, well i don't actually think it was an upgrade issue because the beta worked fine
[17:01] <iptable> Snaps, utopic is not supported as it's still beta
[17:01] <alaba> i want default install because it's for a friend that knows _nothing_ about computers^^
[17:01] <Ineedhelp> all i need the gui for is initial setup and then i can run and configure everything else remotely. but without this gui  im a bag of pupies thats been thrown into a river.
[17:01] <daznis666> Hawkerz, upgrade from a third party source
[17:01] <somsip> upgrader: it seems like you want to do this in one clean command. I'd suggest installing what packages you need sort-of as you need them
[17:01] <iptable> upgrader, install the packages manually and copy the configs over
[17:01] <Snaps> iptable: for two more days, yeah, so this might be a good thing to find prior to that if it potentially affects more people than me.
[17:02] <iptable> Snaps, kernel packages are still being updated etc
[17:02] <Hawkerz> daznis666, upgrades? you can set package versions, I don't think apt has 'downgrade', which is somewhat silly
[17:02] <iptable> Snaps, #ubuntu+1 is for 14.10
[17:02] <Snaps> iptable: okay, thanks!
[17:02] <somsip> Hawkerz: you can 'downgrade' to other candidates, but they tend to be limited in what is available
[17:02] <alaba> are there any hybrid images of ubuntu?
[17:03] <somsip> alaba: define hybrid?
[17:03] <Hawkerz> daznis666, but if you suspect the issue came from the ubuntu dev ppa, you can disable it and remove new packages it installed, and downgrade ones it upgraded
[17:03] <daznis666> Hawkerz, how?
[17:03] <somsip> !ppa-purge | daznis666
[17:03]  * iptable goes to enjoy an evening
[17:03] <Hawkerz> ^ what the bot said
[17:03] <alaba> well, an image containing 32bit and 64 bit. I don't want to burn 2 dvd's
[17:03] <somsip> alaba: no
[17:04] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i can do it with gui, why would i do it with terminal ? :D
[17:04] <Hawkerz> daznis666, you can't
[17:04] <Hawkerz> well
[17:04] <Hawkerz> you can
[17:04] <Hawkerz> but it's really tedious
[17:04] <upgrader> somsip, iptable: if i restore /home folder now on machine2, do packages one at a time on machine2 as needed, will they overwrite /home settings? meaning, i have skype, or backintime, or r-base packages with files in /home/.skype, will install of skype later write on tome of /home/.skype and lose me my personalized settings and files?
[17:05] <Hawkerz> ppa-purge will go through the ppa in question, see what is installed from there on your local machine, completely remove it and revert to the version in the repositories, and disable the ppa you are purging
[17:05] <upgrader> write on *top of*
[17:05] <Hawkerz> it's damn useful, I wouldn't recommend doing it by hand
[17:05] <daznis666> Hawkerz, but this makes no sense, if they upgrades were bad, it should lag and freeze instantly, but it does not
[17:05] <Hawkerz> I mean, I don't know what that ppa provides, it could easly overwrite some library and replace it with one that has a memory leak
[17:06] <Hawkerz> who knows
[17:06] <somsip> upgrader: sensible installers should not overwrite existing conf files without checking what you want to do with them
[17:06] <Hawkerz> it should take like 4 seconds to remove it, then you can see if that fixes, if so, problem solved
[17:06] <Hawkerz> if not, well, now you know how to purge ppa's properly
[17:06] <daznis666> ok
[17:06] <somsip> upgrader: but if they do, you always have the original on machine1
[17:07] <Hawkerz> purging ppa's is a skill you will want to have if you ever do a release upgrade
[17:07] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i want to be a linux guru
[17:08] <upgrader> somsip, iptable, hawkerz: many thanks. i will have to consider if this "packages as needed" approach makes migration worth it, but i'm tempted by 64-bit plus double RAM in machine2 as a better everyday use machine. thanks again! =)
[17:09] <Hawkerz> daznis666, if you can purge ppa's you're a guru
[17:09] <somsip> upgrader: np. When I reinstalled for 14.04 I knew what main packages I wanted, but missed loads. I found them as I needed to use them. It wasn't a big deal.
[17:09] <Hawkerz> i will get you a tshirt made to reflect this occasion.
[17:09] <daznis666> Hawkerz, ppa purging is easy as pie :D
[17:10] <Hawkerz> compared with the process if you had built all of that from source yourself? yes.
[17:11] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i let others build
[17:11] <daznis666> i believe in peoplez skillz
[17:11] <klaas_> hey, i have a question....
[17:11] <klaas_> i have a laptop with linux mint on it....
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> !mint | klaas_
[17:12] <richac> ubottu: which derivatives are supported?
[17:12] <richac> lol
[17:12] <somsip> !flavors | richac
[17:12] <klaas_> oh, i thought i can also come here, because mint is based on ubuntu?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> klaas_: none of the "ubuntu based" distributions are supported by the Ubuntu community. It has it's own community and support
[17:13] <daznis666> Hawkerz, Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: sunab sigil-git, hm, it worked on the first one, but it does not work on the second one ppa. O_o
[17:13] <Hawkerz> daznis666, what was the ppa called?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> klaas_: similarly, ubuntu is based on debian, but if you ask for Ubuntu support in #debian you will be pointed here
[17:13] <daznis666> Hawkerz, ppa:sunab/sigil-git
[17:13] <Tecan> gravity wars in the repository's is kinda problematic
[17:14] <Hawkerz> ah, daznis666: sudo ppa-purge ppa:sunab/sigil-git
[17:14] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i told you im a linux guru, it didn't work
[17:14] <Hawkerz> run sudo apt-get update
[17:14] <Hawkerz> then do it
[17:15] <rubiksmomo> Finally, after 4 installs I have a working OS. Maybe there should be a warning when choosing encryption key "you may not be able to load Ubuntu if you use special characters in the key"...
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> daznis666: linux guru huh....
[17:15] <daznis666> ActionParsnip, wannabe :D
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> daznis666: dont we all :)
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: or just avoid encryption.....
[17:16] <Hawkerz> Linux still makes me feel like an idiot all the time, when I encounter bizarre issues and obsessively try to correct them
[17:16] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: I kinda expected it to work like other encryption systems
[17:16] <ryanarchy> regarding upgrading, if I move from 13.04, it will not remove my current kernel, correct?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: not something I use personally
[17:17] <Hawkerz> ryanarchy, it will replace your kernel with the one in the 14.04 repos, I would hope
[17:17] <rubiksmomo> I like privacy
[17:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hawkerz, don't worry too much, Linux is probably idiotic in a few respects too
[17:17] <Hawkerz> also it will replace a ton of your system with 14.04 compatible stuff which would then have to be downgraded to use the kernel you have now, ryanarchy
[17:18] <daznis666> Hawkerz, ok im good, i remember the time when i had to fix one issue when i've plugged out the DC from a netbook it went into suspend mode...
[17:18] <tgm4883> rubiksmomo: is there a bug report for that?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: i have it, my login pasword keeps people out. Privacy achieved
[17:18] <rubiksmomo> tgm4883: I haven't found
[17:18] <ryanarchy> Hawkerz, that's potentially annoying considering I'm running Xen on the machine I want to upgrade
[17:18] <Hawkerz> daznis666, I spent 12 hours with a team of engineers trying to figure out why a server wouldn't connect to the network -- none of us thought to check that the ethernet cable was actually plugged into the switch
[17:18] <tgm4883> rubiksmomo: you should file one then. I could attempt to reproduce the issue if you want
[17:19] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: Just load up another OS and read all your files
[17:19] <daznis666> Hawkerz, hahahahahahhahaa :DDDD
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: yes but you have to get to my kit first
[17:19] <richac> according to tripwire,  almost every important file on my pc has been modified since the 18th and I can't figure out why
[17:19] <rubiksmomo> tgm4883: OK, I'll file one
[17:19] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: kit?
[17:19] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i've made an ebook yesterday and wrote bussiness on the cover..... :D gimp does not have spelling.... :D
[17:19] <Ineedhelp> ok so apparently, when i go to boot options and press ubuntu nothing happens. so i have to boot into the first  hard drive, i have 3 drives that are raided together using ubuntu's raid software. first drive has a 16gb parition the othe two have a 8gb partition. and i cant write to any of the harddrives i boot into. What could be the problem and why cant i boot into ubuntu.
[17:20] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: physical access?
[17:20] <richac> 2137 binaries modified,  4 tripwire binaries lol,  22638 libraries, 411 root file-system executables, 6 tripwire data files,  143 system boot changes,  2051 root libraries,  14485 system boot files,  2904 config files,  189 boot scripts,  2 security control fiels,  115 root config files,
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: the physical hardware
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: yes
[17:20] <Hawkerz> no surprise, it's probably intended to be that way so artists don't feel judged when they intentionally misspell things for artistic value
[17:20] <richac> i looked at apt and dpkg history,  I don't know what could have affected this
[17:20] <daznis666> Hawkerz, maybe they are tired and playing it COOL
[17:21] <jhutchins> richac: Did you do a software udate?
[17:21] <daznis666> When is the 14.10 comming out?
[17:21] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: True, but you never knows who'll get to it some day :)
[17:21] <richac> jhutchins: i'm looking at the apt and dpkg history,  but i'm not sure if any of these updates would affect all those files?
[17:21] <somsip> daznis666: due on 23rd
[17:21] <Ineedhelp> ok so apparently, when i go to boot options and press ubuntu nothing happens. so i have to boot into the first  hard drive, i have 3 drives that are raided together using ubuntu's raid software. first drive has a 16gb parition the othe two have a 8gb partition. and i cant write to any of the harddrives i boot into. What could be the problem and why cant i boot into ubuntu
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: im careful with my stuff. I'm not some clown shoes who doesnt look after my gear
[17:21] <daznis666> somsip, thx cool 3 days to go.
[17:22] <tgm4883> richac: we are even less sure, since we don't know the contents of either of those files
[17:22] <richac> tgm4883: would you mind if I pastebin?
[17:22] <jhutchins> richac: Either you trust tripwire, and accept that something altered your system, or you don't, in which case why run it?
[17:22] <tgm4883> richac: you can, I don't guarentee I can help you but that would be one of the first steps to getting help
[17:23] <Ineedhelp> ok so apparently, when i go to boot options and press ubuntu nothing happens. so i have to boot into the first  hard drive, i have 3 drives that are raided together using ubuntu's raid software. first drive has a 16gb parition the othe two have a 8gb partition. and i cant write to any of the harddrives i boot into. What could be the problem and why cant i boot into ubuntu
[17:23] <tgm4883> jhutchins: I think it's, he trusts tripwire that something modified his system, and he is trying to figure out if it's because of updates or if his system is compromised
[17:23] <tgm4883> jhutchins: which IMHO sounds like a pretty reasonable stance
[17:23] <daznis666> Ineedhelp, you have no grub loader in the master record O_o
[17:24] <daznis666> Ineedhelp, or do you ? :)
[17:24] <richac> here is dpkg  http://pastebin.com/jxJQzE9b
[17:25] <richac> here is apt http://pastebin.com/qXDiaLuN
[17:25] <somsip> richac: looks like someone installed a GUI...
[17:25] <Ineedhelp> daznis666, i think i do but just to make sure how would i chenk to see if i did? sorry i dont know much on ubuntu servers, learning with this one
[17:25] <richac> somsip: which gui is that?
[17:26] <somsip> richac: I just see a lot of gnome libs and icons.
[17:26] <daznis666> Ineedhelp, if you cant access the terminal i don't know how you can check it O_o
[17:26] <somsip> richac: so did the sysadmin install all of this stuff or not?
[17:27] <richac> hmm  i'm using kde
[17:27] <richac> lemme search that file
[17:27] <Ineedhelp> daznis666, well see i can access the terminal but i cant write to the disks and to be able to even access terminal i have to boot into one of the three hard disks.
[17:28] <somsip> richac: when etherape and nmap are installed at the same time, it looks like someone is up for some pen testing, malicious or not
[17:28] <mistawright> hi guys i have an issue with logrotate and rsyslog. whenever logrotate roates logs it doesnt forward the logs I had it forwarding through udp initially. I have to restart rsyslog in order for it to send again.
[17:28] <mistawright> does anyone know how to fix this?
[17:28] <daznis666> Ineedhelp, i have no idea, if you can't write you need sudo  - admin access
[17:28] <richac> somsip: i installed those
[17:29] <richac> ya i was checking one of the devices on my lan
[17:29] <somsip> richac: so...your concern is exactly what? To make sure each file reported by tripwire is one related to the ton of software you installed? Bit tricky...
[17:29] <vitimiti> Hi
[17:30] <sl1rpy> where is the xorg.conf for ubuntu 14.04?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> sl1rpy: one doesn't ship by default. It will need to be in /etc/X11 as normal
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> sl1rpy: if one is present it will be used
[17:30] <richac> there has to be one update,  that can affect all the files man.    a "ton" of updates shouldn't even do that
[17:30] <somsip> richac: you probably need to rebuild your tripwire DB (or run whatever is usually run regularly) after you install any packages that might cause false positives. Then you know when it's you and when it's not
[17:30] <richac> somsip: it runs everyday
[17:31] <rubiksmomo> Maybe this is the bug I'm having with 14.04.1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1362333
[17:31] <richac> last i updated was right before these updates
[17:31] <richac> so i'm sorry but nmap and etherape,  are not going to affect every binary on my system,  something else must of
[17:31] <somsip> richac: so your routine whould be to update right after you do updates too. So you know all changes you have made. Not sure how you would backtrack to confirm the changes now
[17:31] <somsip> *should be
[17:32] <richac> somsip: yes i thought I was apparenlty not
[17:32] <richac> I guess I should just reformat again :(
[17:32] <somsip> richac: or look for other evidence of an intrusion. Up to you like
[17:33] <richac> somsip: so the answer is you have no idea which of those packages could affect all the binaries,   so I will reformat
[17:33] <tgm4883> richac: you could also inspect all of the packages you installed
[17:33] <richac> my linux bites the dust again.....
[17:33] <tgm4883> richac: whoa, I wouldn't blame this on Linux
[17:33] <Ineedhelp> daznis666, i am admin and i have sudo. it still wont let me write to the disks. heres my problem, i linked all 3 drives to ubuntu raid software(raid 5 parity)  and i cant actually access the ubuntu boot option( might be a fake option might not) so i think my solution is to acces that ubuntu boot option, but shit aint doin its job.
[17:33] <richac> well i mean i was going to do an apt-file search or somethign,  or policy
[17:34] <richac> tgm4883: linux is very insecure
[17:34] <tgm4883> richac: oh really
[17:34] <richac> lol yes
[17:34] <tgm4883> richac: and you are running it because...?
[17:34] <richac> i've been at this for like 4 weeks now,   its terrible
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> richac: its only as secure as you make it. DXefault Ubuntu config isnt too bad
[17:34] <daznis666> Ineedhelp, have no idea, never had this problem - maybe installation went wrong - you know shit happens.
[17:34] <Spec> i'm pretty sure linux is a tool and its security is dependent upon configuraiton
[17:35] <richac> tgm4883: for giggles,   and because i put lxde on some family old laptops
[17:35] <richac> since xp is no longer supported and their machiens are old
[17:35] <tgm4883> richac: my understanding is that you're reformatting because you don't understand how to update tripwire
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Spec: exactly
[17:35] <richac> tgm4883: then you don't understand very much
[17:35] <richac> and weren't paying attention to a dam thing I said
[17:35] <tgm4883> richac: so what is your OS of choice then (out of curiosity)
[17:35] <richac> tgm4883: stop responding to me,  sorry your mad
[17:35] <richac> tgm4883: windows 7
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> richac: you're   not your
[17:36] <richac> ActionParsnip: noone was talking to U
[17:36] <tgm4883> richac: what do you run on windows to verify binaries?
[17:37] <richac> i'm using file integrity,  cause my linux keeps getting borked lol
[17:37] <richac> i don't understand why does it say startup archives unpack,   and then all these libs   are they from curl?  what called for curl?
[17:38] <tgm4883> richac: you're right, linux is really insecure
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> richac: sounds like a PEBCAC issue
[17:38] <Ineedhelp> daznis666, so thats what i thought. ive restarted this server literally 20 times. wiped everything and started from scratch. my first thought was that the hardware raid controller was fucked up( figured ths out around the 15th time) so i used the ubuntu software and shit still aint workin. my next thought is to not even raid. or maybee my partitions are wrong. but i followed the 14.04 help guide for that so i doubt it
[17:38] <richac> tgm4883: part of it,  is because most of the software is old and outdated,  and has less eyes on it
[17:38]  * tgm4883 tells his admins we're switching to windows and IIS
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Ineedhelp: how do you figuratively restart a server 20 times?
[17:39] <richac> tgm4883: if all your concerned about is random drive bys,  and not being actually targeted,  then linux is fine lol
[17:39] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: you press the restart button and nothing happens
[17:39] <daznis666> tgm4883, :D
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: no, why the need for "literally" ?
[17:39] <richac> tgm4883: or if you don't plan to do anything on your pc but turn it on, then ya linux is fine.
[17:39] <tgm4883> richac: that must be why everyone turns to microsoft for security
[17:40] <richac> tgm4883: yes most of the security tools in linux are severely deprecated
[17:40] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: I know, I was just answering you ;)
[17:40] <daznis666> if linux becomes mainstream it's dead :D
[17:40] <davidmaness> where can i go for help with music recording daws on ubuntu?
[17:40] <richac> I don't even think the etherape i supported is known to anyone anymore
[17:40] <richac> i'm surprised osmeone in here knew what it was haha
[17:40] <skyfall> i cant install any new programs
[17:40] <skyfall> showing "waiting for apt-get to exit"
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> skyfall: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[17:41] <skyfall> i was trying to install quake
[17:41] <daznis666> skyfall, you can't install multiple files, your apt-get is "working" or broken
[17:41] <skyfall> how to stop
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> skyfall: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[17:41] <tgm4883> daznis666: it won't. It's too insecure. Can you imagine that some people think you can run it as a web server?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: what do you thikn wikipedia use....?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: *think
[17:42] <richac> tgm4883: linux webservers are under 50% now,  down from 70% pre 2012
[17:42] <Ineedhelp> ActionParsnip, i used literallly to make sure he meant that i wiped everything ( i know i also said i wiped everything) but that was an afterthought and forgot to remove literally, just a grammatical error.
[17:42] <richac> tgm4883: all linux is leading is on phones,  with android,  and ios will pass them soon.
[17:42] <skyfall> can you tell me how to stop
[17:42] <skyfall> apt-get ?
[17:42] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: windows server 2012 datacenter edition with IIS 8 of course
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Ineedhelp: "literally" doesn't mean "i wiped everything"
[17:42] <tgm4883> richac: any actual data to back that up
[17:42] <skyfall> anybody
[17:42] <skyfall>  ?
[17:43] <daznis666> skyfall, restart your pc
[17:43] <daznis666> easiest way
[17:43] <daznis666> then sudo apt-get install quake
[17:43] <daznis666> then sudo apt-get install quake- y
[17:43] <daznis666> then sudo apt-get install quake -y
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> tmghow very wrong you are: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Technical#What_software_is_used_to_run_Wikipedia.3F
[17:44] <skyfall> thanks
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: guess what OS Spotify uses?
[17:44] <daznis666> ActionParsnip, linux?
[17:44] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: Windows NT
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> daznis666: Debian :)
[17:44] <daznis666> ActionParsnip, nailed it
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: gues what servers Pixar use?
[17:45] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: I think you should redirect all of your responses to richac, and that I should just start ending mine with /s
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: basically, you dont know what you are talking about and you are prodding and poking your OS and breaking it, then saying it's poor
[17:45] <daznis666> anybody here know how to code? :)
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> daznis666: a few
[17:45] <Ineedhelp> ActionParsnip. first off dont know why we are being a child about a word i said but i will entertain you. "i reset the server"  means(implies) that i just turned it on and off while "i literally reset" implies a hard reset meaning to wipe everything from the drives. we use this reset hard reset literally reset lingo in my team of networkers. just something i say
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> skyfall: if it's no good after a reboot try this:
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt | skyfall
[17:46] <daznis666> ActionParsnip, i want to learn to code, but it's damn hard to start because everything is so confusing  - for a start i would like to make a d2 bot :) don't know where to start :)
[17:46] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: lol, no, I know exactly what I'm doing. You need to direct that at richac
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Ineedhelp: then say hard reset. I've never heard "literally reset". You either reset it or ou didn't.
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: sorry
[17:48] <Ineedhelp> actionparsnip, you seem like a smart man you mind helping me out with this problem of mine?
[17:48] <pzn> which is the ubuntu package that keeps the gpg-keys of official repositories?
[17:53] <daznis666> chat went dead
[17:54] <daznis666> i remember chatting was popular like 5 years ago, we had chat.lt, now it's just ubuntu support :(
[17:55] <k1l> daznis666: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat. we try to keep this channel clear for technical support only :)
[17:55] <daznis666> k1l
[17:55] <daznis666> ok
[17:59] <k1l> pzn: ubuntu-keyring is the package for the gpg keys of the repos
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Ineedhelp: wassup?
[18:00] <pzn> k1l, thanks! worked as expected.
[18:03] <tozen> hi all! is it possible to get back to default kernel settings in ubi 14.04? so i've installed kernel from mineline miself as result i've lost kernel autoupdate option. can i get it back witout reinstall? thx. sorry 4 my eng.
[18:03] <tozen> *without
[18:03] <hayer_> Does ubuntu have like the windows window management? super + < | > = move windows around, super + ^ | v = maximize, minimize etc ?  (I don't want "move between workspaces")
[18:04] <Ineedhelp> actionparsnip. my second problem of not being able to write to my disks has been resolved, but i still cant get my main problem figured out. i cant install a gui onto my server. its really hard to configure my server when i have to constantly switch my monitor between my computers. itd make my life easier if i could get this desktop onto my server
[18:04] <chowder> tozen: I think if you download the mainline ubuntu 14.04 kernel you can get the configuration options it has. Is your machine running at all? Also what is your native language? I speak spanish.
[18:04] <mgolisch> Ineedhelp: ssh?
[18:04] <EriC^^> hayer_: ctrl+super+leftarrow/rightarrow moves windows around and maximizes and stuff
[18:05] <tozen> chowder: native is latvian, pal. my pc is fine just piss off lost this option.
[18:05] <tozen> :)
[18:05] <ilk> so my gf just brought me my 16 gb usb flash drive that she found in the clothes dryer, it had all my files on it ! Im afraid to plug it in.... took me so long to d/l those isos
[18:06] <gaganjyot> Hello, I am unable to download ubuntu via torrent
[18:06] <gaganjyot> the utopic release
[18:06] <chowder> tozen: on some linux distos you can do /proc/config to get the config for the currently running kernel
[18:06] <gaganjyot> says unauthorised for use with this tracker
[18:06] <gaganjyot> :(
[18:07] <gaganjyot> any help
[18:07] <rubiksmomo> I submitted a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1383831
[18:07] <tozen> chowder: brrrr... ???
[18:07] <supay> would it be a good idea to run Ubuntu on Macbook Pro Retina?
[18:08] <chowder> my advice would be to download the mainline kernel, update grub, and run Ubuntu with each kernel (one at a time of course). When you run it with your custom kernel output the configuration and save it to a file. Then do the same with the mainline kernel. After that you can use diff to see what is different between the two files.
[18:08] <supay> i wanted to go with Arch, but they say there are a lot of compatibility issues
[18:08] <rapture> I am testing out logrotate max size rule and am wondering what the best way to "fill" a log file would be so I can test it?
[18:09] <Ineedhelp> mgolisch that would work but my server is 100x as powerfull as my school computer. so to download unity would solve many more problems then just that one problem i mentioned. also the guide im using to setup jinzora uses a gui. so i wouldnt have to dig ffor hourse trying to find a way around ths.
[18:09] <chowder> tozen: cat /proc/config.gz or /boot/config or /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[18:09] <chowder> tozen: one of these commands should have the configuration of your currently running kernel
[18:10] <chowder> tozen: that's why I said that you will have to run these commands on EACH kernel individually
[18:10] <chowder> tozen: I don't know of any other way to do it
[18:10] <Zephyr1139> !nvidia
[18:10] <chowder> tozen: do you know how to pipe output to a file?
[18:11] <Zephyr1139> !uck
[18:11] <chowder> tozen: you will at least need a basic understanding of the shell to follow my instructions.
[18:11] <jhutchins> chowder: You're talking about the build config - it's in /boot/config`uname -r` - but I think tozen is talking about being able to install from apt.
[18:11] <mgolisch> Ineedhelp: why didnt you just install with a desktop iso if you wanted a gui all along?
[18:11] <chowder> jhutchins: thank you for clarifying.
 hi, I have just purchased a brand new Toshiba Laptop, and I am attempting to run the live-CD of Xubuntu on it.
 The CD appears to start working as I see the Xubuntu logo and the scrolling progress bar as it is booting / loading
[18:11] <jhutchins> tozen: Are you talking about compiling the kernel, or about installing it from apt/software center?
 but then it drops me straight into a command line prompt with no GUI / interface
[18:12] <Anom01y> the laptop has a AMD radaeon 2gb graphx driver,
[18:12] <jhutchins> chowder: Also, while using cat on a .gz (gzip) file will just show binary nonsense, zless will allow you to page through the text in the file.
[18:12] <Anom01y> I would like to install Xubuntu onto it, but since it does not even load the "try xubuntu before installing"   I am hesitant
[18:13] <chowder> jhutchins: yea I forgot to mention that he would have to pipe it through gunzip but I don't think he understands what I'm telling him.
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> Anom01y: try a lubuntu or ubuntu to test
[18:13] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[18:13] <jhutchins> ilk: Put it in a jar of dry rice for a couple of days (draws the water out).
[18:14] <Zephyr1139> !kde
[18:14] <Techathy> Sorry for asking a really dumb question but my google foo seems weak today - what is the proper way to enable a service in ubuntu 14.04 on the commandline without installing any utilities
[18:14] <gladioacuto> back again
[18:14] <Zephyr1139> !server
[18:14] <chowder> Techathy: I'm not sure I understand. How can you do anything on linux with utilities?
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | Zephyr1139
[18:15] <jhutchins> Anom01y: Check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded, and verify that the CD matches as well (or was verified when you burned it).
[18:15] <JokesOnYou77> I'm forwarding a local port on my machine to a port on a remote machine with ssh -L, but I would like to allow other machines on the LAN of my local machine to access that port (and use that forwarding).  How can I do that?
[18:15] <ircnode0> I want to make a hotkey that take screenshot of an are to clipboard, but according to man gnome-screenshot doesn't seems to have option for clipboard or does it?
[18:15] <Ineedhelp> mgolisch, because several steps to download LAMP in the desktop version and 1 command to download gui, 1 command sounds easier to me. but the problem just fixed itself.  i have no idea why it wasnt working before. guess it was a human error
[18:16] <ircnode0> e.g. gnome-screenshot -a -some_magic_option_for_copy_to_clipboard
[18:16] <jhutchins> Techathy: WHich release?
[18:16] <tozen> jhutchins: i'm thinking about to how can i get default settings so my kerlnel can be updated from update-manager or apt-get. at this moment in case of self installing i've lost this option and forced to do manually.
[18:16] <Techathy> 14.04 Server
[18:16] <mgolisch> Ineedhelp: good to hear :)
[18:16] <chowder> Techathy: what service are you working with? for things like Apache you would do /etc/init.d/apache start
[18:16] <ponyofdeath> hi, in 14.04 when i do gem list i see nothing under *** LOCAL GEMS *** even tho i have ubuntu packages installed and lots of gemspec files in /usr/share/rubygems-integration
[18:16] <Techathy> chowder: as in some other package which does stuff
[18:17] <Techathy> chowder: ics-dhcp-server
[18:17] <Techathy> & I don’t want to log & type service ics-dhcp-server start every time
[18:18] <chowder> Techathy: why not put it in a script? Upstart has the ability to start/stop services on boot. You should start there.
[18:18] <richac> tgm4883: i think the problem is,  that I just installed fedora on another partition yesterday,   and the selinux labeled all the files in the other system
[18:18] <richac> so if I go in the media directory for usr/bin for example,   for ubuntu,  all the files have selinux labels now lol
[18:19] <chowder> Techathy: why do you need to start your dhcp server? Can you explain what exactly you're doing so that I can get a better grasp of the issue?
[18:19] <ircnode0> nevermind found the option in gnome-screenshot --help
[18:19] <Ineedhelp> theese commands for ubuntu are 1000% more confusing then cisco commands. i didnt actually think this was possible
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> !info jobs-admin | Techathy
[18:20] <jhutchins> Techathy: For SysV init, you could manually create links from the script in /etc/init.d/ to /etc/rc2.d/ to a link beginning with S and a priority number, but it's easier to manage with something like rc.conf.
[18:20] <Techathy> I’ve done ‘apt-get install ics-dhcp-server’, I’ve configured the file but dhcpd doesn’t start at boot time. what’s the proper way on ubuntu 14.04?
[18:21] <chszaszcz> hi
[18:22] <chowder> Techathy: sudo apt-get install bum. Its the Boot Up Manager. Its graphical and easy to use. I'm assuming you're running X though
[18:22] <jhutchins> Techathy: For upstart, that should still work, but it's more complicated: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[18:22] <Ineedhelp> mgoglisch one more question once the desktop is done downloading how do i access it?
[18:23] <Pici> Techathy: Thats not a valid package name. Are you sure that is what you installed?
[18:27] <yoal3> how do i linux?
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> Pici: maybe he means isc-dhcp-server
[18:27] <Pici> lotuspsychje: seems that way.
[18:29] <OerHeks> Doing linux = using it, yoal3
[18:29] <chowder> OerHeks: here here :-)
[18:29] <gladioacuto> Please help! After configuring fluxbox as my wm in lightdm, going back to ubuntu default wm all graphics changed in a horrible way, dunno what happened!
[18:30] <gladioacuto> sound does not work anymore
[18:30] <JokesOnYou77> I'm forwarding a local port on my machine to a port on a remote machine with ssh -L, but I would like to allow other machines on the LAN of my local machine to access that port (and use that forwarding).  How can I do that?
[18:30] <gladioacuto> is there anyway to restore default ubuntu configurations?
[18:30] <chowder> gladioacuto: can you be more specific? Did the resolution change? Did the colors change? Have you tried using lightdm to go back to Unity instead of fluxbox?
[18:30] <JokesOnYou77> yoal3, start with opening a terminal and typing "man man" and hit enter
[18:31] <JokesOnYou77> then do a lot of reading
[18:31] <chowder> gladioacuto: when you go back to unity does it still work the same? etc. etc.
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:31] <ex-ada> Hey, what's a decent alternative to demon tools for ubuntu?
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: whats your end goal?
[18:31] <Techathy> Pici: typo isc not ics
[18:31] <JokesOnYou77> ex-ada, do you mean for mounting iso files?
[18:31] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, I want to mount isos
[18:31] <ex-ada> yes
[18:32] <gladioacuto> chowder, going back to unity shows colors, themes and all other stuffs changed and moreover sound does not work anymore
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> !iso | ex-ada
[18:32] <chowder> gladioacuto: fluxbox is meant to be very bare bones and requires a good deal of configuration. It can look REALLY nice but it takes a lot of work. You don't just install fluxbox and are ready to go.
[18:32] <Techathy> jhutchins: thanks the answer was burried in that page
[18:33] <ex-ada> thanks lotuspsychje.. although I do just want a program that does it
[18:33] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, but I do appreciate it.
[18:33] <JokesOnYou77> ex-ada, well, it's actually a built-in funcitonality in the OS, you can mount an ISO as a loopback location I think.  But if that's not your thing, give the docs a try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso
[18:33] <ex-ada> okie dokie
[18:33] <k1l> ex-ada: just right click the iso.
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: apt-cache search iso or software centre :p
[18:33] <chowder> gladioacuto: I recommend you stick with unity for now and do some research on properly configuring fluxbox. Beware: fluxbox will take time to configure. You will need to edit configuration files manually for things like menus. It is highly configurable and very lightweight but you have to learn how it works before jumping into it.
[18:34] <ex-ada> yeah, I'm searching for it in the software center now
[18:34] <gladioacuto> chowder, i'm a long term fluxbox user, it does not care! the problem is why if no packages were removed from the system unity changed so much
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: playing movie iso's can be opened by vlc also
[18:34] <chowder> gladioacuto: sorry, I tend to assume people are newbies
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: depends what you want exactly
[18:34] <Hurri877> can anyone tell me why git-dch appends the string ubuntu when passing the snapshot option
[18:35] <chowder> gladioacuto: you got me, dude. I honestly have no idea. If the sound isn't working then maybe pulseaudio isn't running. have you checked that?
[18:35] <gladioacuto> chowder, i was a debian user, i'm a newby for ubuntu, is the sense that i don't know what is loaded, when and how
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: maybe try creating a new user to test?
[18:36] <ex-ada> hooray, it looks like gmount does exactly what I want it to
[18:36] <chowder> gladioacuto: I understand. try a ps aux | grep "pulse". lotuspsychje's advice is also good. I'd do that as well.
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> !info gmount
[18:37] <ex-ada> ubottu, but I just installed it
[18:37] <ex-ada> and I use trusty
[18:37] <ex-ada> oh.. right
[18:37] <ex-ada> I'm stupid
[18:37] <gladioacuto> chowder, you were right about sound, for some unknown reason pulseaudio was not running. How to add applications to system boot by default in ubuntu?
[18:37] <ex-ada> but hey, my thing works
[18:38] <ex-ada> It's not *as* easy as daemon tools, because it requires a mount point
[18:38] <ex-ada> but hey, it doesn't come loaded with malware, and does exactly what I need it to do
[18:38] <ex-ada> huzzah!
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: and whats inside your iso's?
[18:39] <ex-ada> not like Linux has a problem with malware at all
[18:39] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, starcraft...
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> games ok
[18:39] <chowder> gladioacuto: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-manage-startupboot-up-services-in-ubuntu
[18:40] <linuxuz3r> anyone use apache here
[18:41] <chowder> gladioacuto: it mentions a nice GUI tool for managing services and a more lightweight commandline version using ncurses. Since you're a fluxbox user I'm guessing you'll tend towards the commandline. :) just apt-get install bum or apt-get install rconf. I think rconf should already be installed though
[18:41] <Hurri877> gitbuildpackage can anyone help?
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> linuxuz3r: try the #httpd guys
[18:41] <TLoFP> when i start nano I get home/user/.nano_history permission denied what is up with that?
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> TLoFP: did you try sudo?
[18:41] <sjO> Question: What does the update-manager? upgrade, dist-upgrade or some other things?
[18:42] <gladioacuto> chowder, i added a new user, i'll be back in a while
[18:42] <chowder> gladioacuto: hope it works out dude
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | chowder
[18:42] <DJones> linuxuz3r: Probably a lot of people, but before they'll reply, they need to know what your particular issue is
[18:42] <Zephyr1139> Would the following be equivalent: "install 14.04 server image" followed by "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" to just "install 14.04 kubuntu" ?
[18:43] <bubbasaures> sjO, The update manager shows you all available updates.
[18:43] <linuxuz3r> just wanna know if you can wget -R path to apache webserver
[18:43] <Techathy> oops… note to self - don’t reboot the system that has the VM which is serving as a temporary dns & dhcp… stuff does break
[18:43] <bubbasaures> can be adjusted for release updates however sjO
[18:44] <sjO> bubbasaures: Which commands do the update manager?
[18:44] <TLoFP> Totuspsychje ofcourse, but I don't wanna be root to use nano
[18:44] <linuxuz3r> does anyone wonder how apache webserver enforce permissions
[18:44] <chowder> random question: I've always wondered why apt-get update; will update everything except the kernel headers but the update-manager will update the kernel headers
[18:45] <bubbasaures> sjO, There is the app update manager that is what I'm addressing, apt-get update apt-get upgrade and for kernels included apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:45] <bubbasaures> terminal commands^^^^^^^^
[18:45] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I'm on a no carb diet. :/
[18:45] <gladioacuto> back again
[18:45] <chowder> gladioacuto: welcome back
[18:45] <gladioacuto> chowder, all fine for the new user
[18:45] <chowder> gladioacuto: that is quite weird
[18:46] <bubbasaures> chowder is no good without butter and cream
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: so the old users config must be messed up
[18:46] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, yes, in some way i don't know
[18:46] <j1729> Hello !
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> !glutenfree cookie
[18:46] <j1729> How are you guys ? :)
[18:46] <gladioacuto> so is it possible to restore user onfig to defaults? which are the reference files?
[18:47] <j1729> Are there any bugs or something to fix or do in order to get started with open source ?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: try the users /home folder and show hidden files for configs
[18:47] <gladioacuto> that's why i like command line and simple wms though...;)
[18:47] <Quatroking> quick question - can I create windows 8 bootup sticks using linux
[18:47] <Quatroking> and if so, how
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: winusb can make win7 usb's not sure bout win8
[18:48] <bubbasaures> j1729, No, just install an OS, or try it out.
[18:48] <chowder> gladioacuto: I love fluxbox but it takes so much to get it looking the way I want it. Ideally I'd just have a small dock with a clock and notifications and another with minimized windows. I wonder if if I can put minimized windows in the fluxbox menu...
[18:48] <k1l> Quatroking: i am not aware of. better ask the ##windows guys about that
[18:48] <Quatroking> k1l, thanks for that suggestion, I will. Wouldn't be surprised if they redirected me back to this channel though, lol
[18:48] <Quatroking> lotuspsychje, I'll look into that. On windows the win8 bootup sticks are actually made using software made for win7 so who knows
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: winusb needs ppa adding, so be carefull ok
[18:50] <ex-ada> I know it's probably not recommended, but how do I always be root?
[18:50] <chowder> Quatroking: well you can always save the disk image and then write it directly to the USB stick
[18:50] <j1729> bubbasaures, thanks. I am on ubuntu 12.04.  How does one start contributing to ubuntu ? by writing codes
[18:50] <gladioacuto> chowder, for sure you can! take a look at fluxbox menu "Workspaces"
[18:50] <Quatroking> chowder, previous experience tells me that that doesn't really work too well though
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> j1729: developing?
[18:51] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, which config files should i copy back?
[18:51] <j1729> lotuspsychje , yes. How can I get involved ?
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> j1729: #ubuntu-devel
[18:51] <chowder> Quatroking: I use brasero. I have a LEGIT (GO AWAY MICROSOFT) copy of Windows 8.1 that I ripped off a DVD. The image file is sitting on my hard drive.
[18:51] <j1729> lotuspsychje, thanks a lot buddy ! Cheers.
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> j1729: or #ubuntu-touch also needs many help for the touch version on mobiles
[18:52] <chowder> Quatroking: I suppose you could try dd if=/path/to/image/file of=/path/to/device
[18:52] <j1729> lotuspsychje, thanks again !
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> j1729: thank you for helpin the devs :p
[18:52] <bubbasaures> j1729, You can do it with support, here, is ITT an end or working goal at the moment?
[18:52] <chowder> Quatroking: but read the documentation before you use dd. If you write something incorrectly it will destroy all of your data.
[18:52] <Hurri877> why does gitdch append the string ubuntu to all my versions?
[18:53] <Quatroking> chowder, I'll go and try winusb first
[18:53] <chowder> Quatroking: that'd probably be best. If that doesn't work I'd look into making a bootable USB stick. You can install Grub to a USB stick which can in turn boot Windows.
[18:53] <alexgl> need a refresher, I have a samba user that I want to let use of a drive i mounted at /mnt/samba-user   for that share to be available i need to give samba-user permissions to use that folder. is it chmod 775 that i need to use there?
[18:53] <ex-ada> I mean, it's kind of a drag always having to type gksudo nautilus *every* time I want to apply changes to a .whatever folder
[18:54] <ex-ada> so is there a way to always be root?
[18:54] <ex-ada> or have root access?
[18:54] <gladioacuto> chowder, do you know if it is possible to call the unity-2d-panel battery button app and power button one standalon?I did it for the wifi button, which points to nm-applet, dunno for the others...it would be great for me
[18:54] <Jonathan19919991> Hey, I just installed ubuntu 14.10 october 17 build and I cannot log in because it didn't save somehow that I want to use Hungarian as the input language so I cannot type my password. Any advice?
[18:54] <k1l> ex-ada: if you need to be root all the time you are doing something wrong at all
[18:54] <j1729> bubbasaures,  I want to be a part of the development community :)
[18:55] <bubbasaures> Quatroking, This app works nicely, if used, use gparted to make the fat32 on the usb. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:55] <jhutchins> alexgl: Samba runs as root and has it's own permissions configuration.
[18:55] <chowder> gladioacuto: I'm really not sure. I don't even use Unity. I use gnome3.
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: i also use multiboot, for all my ubuntu iso's on 1 stick
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: +1
[18:55] <chowder> gladioacuto: I think there's a unity channel here on freenode though
[18:55] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje, Yeah nice app. ;)
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: a bit weird method to install, do you know location of a proper .deb?
[18:57] <opus_> Hello, anyone else getting crashes every 3-4 hours on Intel Corporation Mobile GM965 ? My display goes blank but my machine is up. This is after doing apt-get update/upgrade
[18:57] <jhutchins> ex-ada: Running graphical programs as root can have very destructive and unexpected consequences.  Strongly recommended against, with the exception of using gksudo to configure settings.
[18:57] <gladioacuto> chowder, if you use gnome3, are there equivalent for gnome that i can use to those i wrote above?
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> opus_: did you install ubuntu with internet enabled?
[18:57] <opus_> I think I turned on crash reporting after the fact if thats what you are referring to
[18:57] <opus_> how do I check that?
[18:58] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje, Not sure on a deb but this works fine adding the repo and key. http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[18:58] <rww> Jonathan1991: 14.10 questions go in #ubuntu+1
[18:58] <ex-ada> so.. nobody knows how to always have root access at all times?
[18:58] <rww> (#ubuntu only deals with released versions of Ubuntu)
[18:58] <bekks> !root | ex-ada
[18:59] <bekks> ex-ada: You always have root access using sudo.
[18:59] <ex-ada> thanks bekks, but what I'm trying to do is not have to use the sudo command or have to type gksudo nautilus every time I want to make .whatever changes
[18:59] <k1l> ex-ada: why do you want be have root access all the time? there is no need for that on ubuntu tbh
[18:59] <OerHeks> ex-ada, you can have a terminalsession as root: sudo -i
[18:59] <ex-ada> kll, why not?
[19:00] <k1l> ex-ada: why?
[19:00] <ex-ada> OerHeks, okay, what about having root access all the time
[19:00] <bekks> ex-ada: you can always use sudo and configure sudo to your needs.
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: tnx for the addline, i did the .sh install last time :p
[19:00] <k1l> ex-ada: can you give serious examples? beeing root all the time is a bad windows habit.
[19:00] <opus_> Do you think my laptop is dying or is it a new driver update for my X11 crashes?
[19:00] <ex-ada> k1l, it's mostly for convenience\
[19:00] <alexgl> jhutchins: if there is an active connection or if a user just logged onto the server through samba, would it show under the gadmin-samba gui in the connections tab?
[19:00] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje, I always ssh as well, had to look for the other.
[19:00] <ex-ada> k1l, I agree, but I want it anyway. How do you do it?
[19:00] <bekks> opus_: you ould take a look at the logs in /var/log/
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: no i mean the .sh script install of multiboot
[19:01] <k1l> ex-ada: ubuntu is build on the basis of sudo. the regular user doesnt need to be root all the time.
[19:01] <ex-ada> k1l, okay, granted, it's a bad idea. But even if I don't need to, how do I do it?
[19:01] <DesuDesu> story time: the first person i told how to become permanent root crashed his system within a few hours
[19:01] <k1l> ex-ada: the answer was already given. but dont come in here and complain your system is ruined.
[19:01] <tgm4883> ex-ada: also, based on channel rules, even if we wanted to (which we don't ), we couldn't tell you how to do it
[19:01] <opus_> bekks, what log file would it be in? thanks
[19:01] <ex-ada> hm.. I'll have to look for it
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> opus_: also check your lshw -C video what driver loaded
[19:02] <bekks> ex-ada: you have to read the message of the bot closely, again.
[19:02] <k1l> DesuDesu: exactly that is the issue with the "but is need to be root all the time"-guys
[19:03] <opus_> Weird, kern.log doesn't show anything of the regular
[19:03] <opus_> ?
[19:03] <Vadomo> hi
[19:03] <ex-ada> I guess it's not too huge of a deal... it's just an extra step.
[19:03] <bekks> opus_: Take a look at /var/log/syslog more likely
[19:04] <gladioacuto> is there any settings-daemon launched in ubuntu by default?
[19:04] <bekks> gladioacuto: Whats a settings daemon?
[19:04] <Zephyr1139> Has 14.10 reached the LTS state or is it still in (bleeding) alpha state?
[19:04] <gladioacuto> bekks, like gnome-settings-daemon
[19:04] <Pici> Zephyr1139: 14.10 will never be an LTS.
[19:05] <tgm4883> Zephyr1139: 14.10 is not an LTS release
[19:05] <k1l> Zephyr1139: 14.10 will not be a lts at all
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: you can edit stuff in dconf-editor
[19:05] <mgolisch> hm why doesnt --name and --class work on gnome-terminal
[19:05] <mgolisch> is this expected behavior?
[19:05] <opus_> Hey guys I found the error!
[19:05] <opus_> http://pastebin.com/M501HPU4
[19:05] <Pici> Zephyr1139: The official release date is sometime on the 23rd.  LTS releases are every 2 years, 14.04 (April 2014) 16.04 (April 2016), etc.
[19:06] <mgolisch> also is there some other way to add some property to a started terminal so that i could distinguish it among other instances of gnome-terminal ?
[19:06] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, i've no dconf-editor by default in 12.04 LTS
[19:06] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, i meant any script that loads settings by default
[19:06] <opus_> any else have that issue before?
[19:07] <chowder> gladioacuto: sorry I didn't reply I was a bit busy. As for the gnome apps I
[19:07] <chowder> I'm not sure off the top of my head if there's a standalone battery app. I'm sure there is but gnome3 is so different from gnome2 that I just can't be sure.
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: make your life easy and reinstall it clean with whatever you need
[19:07] <chowder> gladioacuto: I'd look into xfce apps
[19:08] <k1l> opus_: your system freezes occasionaly?
[19:08] <Zephyr1139> Pici, do releases toggle between XX.04 (stable) an XX.10 (experimental) ?
[19:08] <Pici> Zephyr1139: No.
[19:08] <Pici> Zephyr1139: 04 Means april .10 Means October.
[19:08] <eer> Is it possible to open 2 instances of VLC player? When I watch a video and open another one the one open is replaced by the 2nd one? How can I open 2?
[19:09] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, i didn't uninstall anything! i just want my default user run correctly with unity. But the problem at this point, is that unity seems to me to be a so "close" wm, it seems to be so far from the linux phylosophy...
[19:09] <opus_> k1l : yes, every 4-6 hours
[19:09] <rww> Zephyr1139: Ubuntu version numbers are year.month. Ubuntu releases an LTS every two years.
[19:09] <rww> Zephyr1139: so 16.04, 14.04, 12.04, 10.04, 6.06 (delayed)
[19:09] <opus_> k1l: Whenever I do video or do a bunch of windowing
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> eer: open vlc from terminal twice
[19:10] <bekks> gladioacuto: And whats your actual issue besides a "settings daemon"?
[19:10] <eer> lotuspsychje, is there no other way?
[19:10] <eer> lotuspsychje, only by using the terminal?
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> eer: i tryed rightmouse, but there's no new window option so..
[19:11] <opus_> People are saying to switch to UXA ? any idea?
[19:11] <k1l> opus_: i had that, too on 14.04 and before. but not on 14.10 so far. i did not have a solution for this.
[19:11]  * o11c can't help but think it would decrease confusing if Ubuntu released in *any* month other than .10
[19:11] <o11c> everybody always tries to say 14.1
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> opus_: did you check your additional driver list?
[19:11] <o11c> but with 14.09 or 14.11 they couldn't do that
[19:11] <gladioacuto> bekks, i was trying to understand why from some point onward audio stopped working in my default user fluxbox session in ubuntu. I argued that there is a settings daemon not launched in this custom session so a lot of things could not work properly
[19:12] <opus_> lotuspsychje?
[19:12] <eer> ok thx
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> opus_: to see what intel drivers loaded
[19:12] <chowder> anyone use tiling window managers? I use gnome3 and sometimes its a hassle to switch between different workspaces. I like the idea of having custom layouts but I have a laptop. Are tiling WMs better suited to larger screens? HALP PLZ
[19:12] <bekks> gladioacuto: It stopped working after doing what exactly?
[19:12] <opus_> http://www.mail-archive.com/desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net/msg346182.html
[19:13] <opus_> lotuspsychje, I'm not running Unity btw so I think you are referring to some kind of GUI configorator?
[19:13] <gladioacuto> bekks, i don't know, otherwise i would not have been heere...apparently nothing, i didn't uninstall anything
[19:14] <k1l> opus_: that seems to be caused by the intel driver. i had the same with my intel hd4000 card on unity
[19:14] <bekks> gladioacuto: Maybe it's because you installed something? Things dont stop working without a reason. :)
[19:14] <opus_> This guy is also having the same issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2248299
[19:15] <gladioacuto> bekks, yes i installed a lot of things
[19:15] <bekks> gladioacuto: So thats not "nothing".
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> chowder: apt-cache search show a few, like tritium
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> !info tritium | chowder
[19:16] <eer> lotuspsychje, I found the solution
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> eer: share :p
[19:16] <opus_> Strange Firefox does NOT crash my system but chrome does. Even if I run chrome --disable-gpu
[19:16] <eer> lotuspsychje, https://wiki.videolan.org/How_to_play_multiple_instances_of_VLC/       in Interface tab scroll down to playlist and instances
[19:16] <eer> untick checkbox Allow only one instance
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> eer: cool trick
[19:17] <eer> ;)
[19:17] <gladioacuto> bekks, so i come back to my question: which are the reference files i can copy back from my new "test" user, where thing work as expected in unity, to my default user, where things changed under unity?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> eer: but ill stay with 1 movie at time :p
[19:17] <chowder> lotuspsychje: a tiling wm in python? idk. I'd go with something a bit more robust like C or Haskell.
[19:18] <bekks> gladioacuto: All settings files of all applications related to sound, I guess.
[19:18] <Guest27042> hi. my laptop is asus x550 and the os I installed on it is Xubuntu 14.04. everything was ok but I no output voice when I used apps like skype. so I dealed a bit with sound setting. I didn't change anything but now I have no sound even when I play MP3! what should I do?
[19:19] <asarch> How do you install Evolution?
[19:19] <eer> lotuspsychje, yes but handy when watching porn. :)
[19:19] <mgolisch> hm seems like gnome-terminal cant set a custom wm_class or instance name
[19:19] <mgolisch> too bad
[19:19] <mgolisch> guess ill look for another terminal then
[19:19] <mgolisch> any suggestions?
[19:19] <asarch> ...on AMD64 platform?
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> eer: lol, terminator 16 shell tabs/start vlc :p
[19:20] <bekks> !info evolution | asarch
[19:20] <asarch> apt-get -y install evolution seems not to be the correct way
[19:20] <gladioacuto> bekks, could you be more specific? there are a lot of hidden dirs
[19:20] <bekks> asarch: Why not?
[19:20] <eer> gotta run ...
[19:20] <eer> CU
[19:20] <asarch> I doesn't show any access in the app menu
[19:20] <bekks> asarch: Which doesnt mean it isnt installed.
[19:20] <asarch> You have to start it manually by typing evolution from a terminal
[19:21] <asarch> I already did: apt-get -y install evolution
[19:21] <Guest27042> asarch: plz help me too :d what should I do with my sound setting?!
[19:22] <asarch> Can you paste the lspci output?
[19:22] <asarch> Nevermind, it seems that the system needs a reboot
[19:22] <asarch> Thank you bekks
[19:22] <asarch> Thank you very much :-)
[19:23] <oritromax> Anyone noticed the problem with skype 4.3 in 64bit?
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> chowder: maybe somthing interesting here: http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/customization/screenshots/nix/?order=9&q=tiling+manager
[19:23] <Guest27042> asarch: how should I see the lspci output?! any command for terminal?!
[19:23] <asarch> Of couse!
[19:23] <asarch> sudo lspci please
[19:24] <oritromax> Any comment on skype's Problem? Guyz?
[19:24] <bekks> oritromax: Can you define "the" problem?
[19:25] <chowder> lotuspsychje: thanks. these actually look really beautiful and, since I have a Windows 8.1 VM on my machine, I was looking to a tiling wm to help me preserve resources
[19:25] <oritromax> Its not working in 14.04 64 bit
[19:25] <oritromax> And 32 bit also
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: i have 64bit and its wotking here, how did you install?
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> chowder: you know preload?
[19:26] <oritromax> Downloaded the official Version ( .deb ) and installed it
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: wich .deb
[19:26] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I've heard of that but I'm unsure what its for.
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | chowder
[19:27] <Guest27042> asarch: http://pastebin.com/K74rUQRt
[19:27] <opus_> How do I downgrade to kernel <3.14?
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> chowder: i use it togheter with my ssd, system fast as rocket :p
[19:27] <oritromax> Ubuntu 12.04 Multi arch - File name: skype-ubuntu-precise_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb
[19:28] <k1l> opus_: downgrade? 14.04 got 3.13
[19:28] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I have an SSD as well.
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> chowder: wich one
[19:28] <Guest27042> asarch: I really don't know what I did to sound setting :D
[19:28] <opus_> Well, how do I downgrade to a older kernel. It definite is my issue.
[19:28] <opus_> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/41979 <-- exact issue
[19:28] <bekks> opus_: Can you pastebin lsb_release -a and uname -a please?
[19:29] <asarch> Are you really sure it is actually not working?
[19:29] <k1l> opus_: uname -a gives you what?
[19:29] <asarch> Intel has a great support in Linux
[19:29] <asarch> Maybe it is muted
[19:29] <opus_> http://pastebin.com/xQRJg7wi
[19:29] <chowder> lotuspsychje: to be honest I don't even remember lol. I think its a Western Digital. Also I googled preload and readahead. I don't think it'd help me. I mainly stick to like 5 applications.
[19:29] <k1l> opus_: so you got 3.13
[19:30] <OerHeks> opus that regression started with 3.14
[19:30] <oritromax> @lotuspsychje : here is a screenshot
[19:30] <oritromax> lotuspsychje
[19:30] <asarch> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/253558
[19:30] <oritromax> http://i.imgur.com/E02w0Le.png
[19:31] <Guest27042> asarch: No I don't think so! I checked wether it's mute or not! but it seems that it's not muted
[19:31] <opus_> Alright then I need to upgrade?
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> chowder: for me it speeds up, togheter with my fstab tweaks
[19:32] <chowder> lotuspsychje: what kind of tweaks do you make to fstab? I haven't touched fstab since I have full disk encryption with LVM
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> chowder: lemme paste it holdon
[19:32] <k1l> opus_: on 14.10 i didnt have that issue so far.
[19:32] <OerHeks> opus_, wait for utopic, with 3.16 http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/kernel/
[19:32] <opus_> is there anything I can do now? I need to get work done without my desktop crashing every 3-4 hours
[19:33] <teward> is it sane to run `do-release-upgrade -s` before the actual upgrade to see if anything breaks?
[19:33] <opus_> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85069 that issue and  this issue https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77104
[19:33] <opus_> ugh I should have never upgraded
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> chowder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8618722/
[19:34] <oritromax> Anybody wanna put some light on Skype 4.3 Problem in 14.04 64 bit?
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> chowder: i also use: swappiness=10 en grub boot with 'quiet splash' off
[19:34] <teward> oritromax: keep in mind Skype isn't maintained by the Ubuntu people - therhe's not too much that can be done
[19:34] <bekks> opus_: you could try using the nightly driver as suggested in the first link.
[19:34] <k1l> opus_: is there a bug on launchpad to it? does it link to the actual freedesktop bugs?
[19:35] <oritromax> I know, i just wanted to know, if there is any workaround that can solve my problem
[19:35] <elham> help plz!!! I wanna listen to music :d but there is  no sound and I have no idea what to do
[19:35] <chowder> oritromax: its kind of hard for anyone to troubleshoot skype since its closed source. This doesn't mean that no one can help but its something you should keep in mind.
[19:35] <k1l> opus_: if the ubuntu devs dont have that error they dont get to know
[19:35] <teward> oritromax: you're probably better off asking on the Skype site, but unless you ask your actual question nobody can help
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: try make another user, and download skype from there
[19:35] <teward> oritromax: that said, troublemaking is difficult because closed-source
[19:35] <chowder> elham: take some ice. dip a washrag in it. now put it on your face. wait.
[19:36] <chowder> elham: open your terminal and type this: ps aux | grep "pulse"
[19:36] <elham> chowder: :))))))))
[19:36] <chowder> elham: tell me the output
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: you have an optimus graphics card?
[19:36] <oritromax> The actual question is, skype doesn't run from dashboard, but in terminal it shows: skype: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtOpenGL.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZNK14QWidgetPrivate17hasHeightForWidthEv
[19:36] <oritromax> I have ATI REDON 5450
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: you sure you install all your drivers correctly?
[19:37] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I think I have swappiness set to like 10 or less
[19:37] <dagerik> im having problems sending email with msmtp. symptom: email not showing up in email inbox after 4 hours. https://bpaste.net/show/7dad8658e6a6
[19:37] <elham> chowder: http://pastebin.com/LpY7cr17 :d
[19:37] <oritromax> I am using X.ORG Driver for My GPU
[19:38] <oritromax> and when i changed the environment from /usr/share/applications/skype.desktop - it worked
[19:38] <oritromax> but couldn't use that fix in 64bit, not working
[19:39] <chowder> elham: pulseaudio is running and that's what outputs the sound. was the sound working before? did you make any changes to your setup?
[19:40] <chowder> elham: if you need more in depth help you can pm me. I know the chat can be a bit much at times.
[19:43] <elham> chowder: yeah it was ok but when I used to voice chat with skype my friend didn't have my sound so I dealed a bit with sound setting. I didn't change anything (as I remember) but suddenly voice muted! and until that time I have no sound :d
[19:43] <elham> chowder: any suggestion wht to do?
[19:44] <chowder> elham: do you see a volume icon on your machine? try raising the volume. You might have just muted it.
[19:45] <elham> chowder: yes I see! no! I tested it before :d the sound is up!
[19:45] <chowder> elham: what application did you use to mess with the volume? PulseAudio can be made to output to the speakers or take input from a program such as skype
[19:45] <oritromax> elham: did you checked the Sounds Settings?
[19:46] <elham> chowder: oom.I just used sound setting from taskbar! nothing else.
[19:47] <elham> oritromax: yeah. I did everything I can! but problem didn't fix
[19:47]  * elham feels like a poor girl with no sound laptop :D
[19:47] <oritromax> elham: i had kinda same problem before. There was some settings problem !
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> elham: open a tail -f /var/log/syslog en fool around with sound a bit
[19:48] <elham> oritromax: and what did u do?
[19:48] <oritromax> Did some googling and found the solution
[19:49] <oritromax> But before that, check the system log as "lotuspsychje" suggested
[19:49] <elham> oritromax: I googled it before! but no answer
[19:49] <elham> oritromax: lotuspsychje http://pastebin.com/m9HvpB8J
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> elham: no sound issues yet, look at older logs yourself
[19:51] <dagerik> my email is not showing up even after this message from msmtp: okt. 21 21:35:57 host=smtp.stud.ntnu.no tls=off auth=off from=dageriv@stud.ntnu.no recipients=dageriv@stud.ntnu.no mailsize=131 smtpstatus=250 smtpmsg='250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as A806D916DF9' exitcode=EX_OK
[19:51] <elham> lotuspsychje: what do u think about hardware?! any hardware problem?
[19:51] <oritromax> it seems clear ! at least no known issue with your sound ! Did you tried your sound hardware somewhere else?
[19:52] <oritromax> Like using the 3.5 mm with a phone to check if its okey?
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> elham: your sdb1 shows an error
[19:52] <elham> oritromax: the headset is ok with other devices. the problem is laptop
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> !sound | elham
[19:53] <ex-ada> good news, though. Starcraft works flawlessly.
[19:53] <ex-ada> the first one, I mean
[19:53] <ex-ada> I haven't actually tested the second one.
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: how did you run it on ubuntu?
[19:53] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, I had WINE and installed it normally and it worked
[19:53] <ex-ada> Oh, I also applied a patch, which also worked fine
[19:53] <elham> lotuspsychje: :d yes. I tried to make an iso image and have a live session and check the sound there! but there was a problem with sdb :d
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | ex-ada check also this package
[19:54] <hyde> is there a standard way to debug into Ubuntu libraries? I've got the debug symbols, and I've got the stack trace and disassembly view in in debugger (Qt Creator with gdb as backend). Alternative is of course to provide path for the sources and get them where ever I want, but before I do that, I'd like to know if there's a standard location found
[19:54] <hyde> "automatically"
[19:54] <ex-ada> thanks lotuspsychje
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> !debug | hyde
[19:55] <ex-ada> I'm trying to determine whether I should keep unity. When I first had a vanilla install of ubuntu, unity was slow.. but since I "fixed" it, everything is very fast.
[19:55] <ex-ada> so right now I'm just wondering if I like it aesthetically...
[19:56] <ex-ada> I like gnome 2, but not gnome 3.. hmm
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: unity is very intuitive once you get used to it
[19:56] <bubbasaures> ex-ada, unity is tiny, a plugin in compiz, just install another DE I would not try and remove unity.
[19:56] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, yeah, it doesn't give me problems.. especially since I turned off the web suggestions
[19:56] <ex-ada> bubbasaures, oh yeah, I wouldn't remove it either.. I just might use something else. Maybe.
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: ofcourse we cant discuss flavors right, everyone chooses whats right for his needs
[19:57] <ex-ada> but it isn't bad.
[19:57] <ex-ada> and since I added the classic menu indicator, it's great.
[19:58] <ex-ada> canonical should have the classic menu indicator in addition to unity by default. that would be great
[19:58] <hyde> lotuspsychje: thanks, but I didn't find an answer from that page. I do have the debug symbols, and they appear to be loaded by debugger... So perhaps this means, I do need to specify the path to the sources.
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: you can also drag your fav icons onto unity left bar
[19:58] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> does anyone know where I can it an older version of the world of warcraft installer?
[19:59] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> trying to play it on ubuntu but the current installer doesn't work
[19:59] <JokesOnYou77> I'm forwarding a local port on my machine to a port on a remote machine with ssh -L, but I would like to allow other machines on the LAN of my local machine to access that port (and use that forwarding).  How can I do that?
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> Ryu_Fitzgerald: did you try playonlinux yet?
[19:59] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, I did know that. What I don't like is how unity sometimes puts newly installed programs onto the bar without asking me. But it's a minor gripe, really
[19:59] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> yes and so far no response,  will be waiting in that channel
[19:59] <pablopf16> hi
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | JokesOnYou77
[20:00] <John_John_> i would like to download 14.04 LTS and setup a mail server. Should i need to download the desktop or server edition ?
[20:00] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I have returned
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> chowder: wb
[20:01] <hyde> John_John_: do you want GUI on local monitor?
[20:02] <John_John_> yes i would prefer to
[20:02] <hyde> John_John_: if yes, then I'd install Lubuntu variant, then optionally uninstall some of the unnecessary desktop apps that come with it
[20:02] <hyde> of course you can also install the server, then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> Ryu_Fitzgerald: maybe this can help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[20:03] <John_John_> and what about the mail server ?
[20:03] <hyde> (or whatever)
[20:03] <John_John_> is the mail server already installed in the server edition ?
[20:03] <chowder> lotuspsychje: thank you.
[20:04] <chowder> lotuspsychje: have you ever tried running Xen?
[20:04] <tab1293> What do '0' permissions mean for the owner of a directory?
[20:04] <elham> lotuspsychje: what will happen if I remove the pulseaudio and installing it again ? :d
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> chowder: no never
[20:04] <hyde> John_John_: you can select to install it on installation I think... but you'd still need to configure it I think...
[20:04] <chowder> elham: pulseaudio is an integral part of the system. It won't do anything.
[20:04] <FooMunki> Hey has anyone here seen an error like: iptables v1.4.14: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[20:05] <chowder> elham: your issues are in how pulse is configured
[20:05] <hyde> anyway, it's just an apt-get away for a desktop ubuntu, so not much difference, AFAIK
[20:05] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> lotuspsychje, thanks but that just takes me to the website to get the instaler
[20:05] <richac> you can uninstall pulse and you will have sound with alsa
[20:05] <FooMunki> I’m lost with it - Am i right in thinking its because i need to recompile my kernal
[20:05] <richac> but you will lose pavucontrol and an eq if you have one installed
[20:05] <elham> chowder: yeah! any way to reset all the configuration to defult one? t
[20:05] <richac> the you use alsamixer
[20:06] <John_John_> so i guess i would start with the server eddition and then apt-get lubuntu-desktop right ?
[20:06] <squidly> richac: that is true.. but you will have som eissues but you can cause issues with some applicataions.
[20:06] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I wanted to make linux my Dom0 and have Windows 8.1 and my DomU. But now I'm debating it. I use Windows at work but it can never compare to Linux.
[20:06] <richac> dunno, i've never had an y issues
[20:06] <squidly> richac: but most people can do that. skype required pulseaudio now
[20:06] <richac> oh ok i see
[20:06] <richac> ya i don't use skype
[20:06] <hyde> is pulseaudio *still* causing problems? after all these years it's been around?
[20:06] <chowder> elham: not that I know of. its hard to diagnose the issue without being there and seeing your screen
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> chowder: i dumped winblows for years now :p
[20:07] <squidly> hyde: yes
[20:07] <richac> hyde: ya its terrible,  linux people don't listen to audio
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:07] <elham> chowder: team viewer?! :d
[20:07] <richac> the only desktop, thats lets me control the master volume,  without breaking the levels on my surround channels,  is cinnamon
[20:07] <richac> when controlling master volume from panel
[20:07] <chowder> elham: I'd love to help but I'm at work. I think this is the most they'll let me get away with.
[20:08] <elham> chowder: :) thank u dude :)
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> chowder: i also want a work where i can xchat for hours on ubuntu :p
[20:08] <chowder> elham: no problem. don't give up hope. your answer is probably a google away.
[20:08] <chowder> lotuspsychje: lol I'm a student. I'm doing college work/study.
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> elham: many problems dissapear after a good ol clean install :p
[20:09] <Guest53385> Hi, Steam's not running properly, possibly something to do with curl due to connection problems (another PC running 14.04 works fine)
[20:09] <Guest53385> Any suggestions?
[20:09] <bekks> Guest53385: Whats the complete, detailed error you get?
[20:09] <chowder> elham: yeah I'd do a reinstall if its that much of an issue. Just back up your important stuff and burn an Ubuntu DVD then reinstall.
[20:10] <elham> richac: lotuspsychje chowder I'm not sure about removing pulseaudio! but I have alsa :D maybe it's good to remove pulsaudio
[20:10] <chowder> elham: in the future, you will want to do research before you attempt to mess with core parts of Ubuntu like PulseAudio.
[20:10] <Guest53385> bekks, sorry for the long name, forgot to set my normal ID and I forgot how to change it in XChat, It just throws me the "steam is having trouble connecting to the servers"#
[20:10] <chowder> elham: alsa alone won't let you use skype like you wanted. Alsa is like a software layer that pulseaudio runs on top of.
[20:11] <richac> all linux uses alsa
[20:11] <k1l_> elham: did you check alsamixer already if its muted?
[20:11] <elham> chowder: Ao ! Thank you very muck
[20:11] <elham> much
[20:11] <richac> but  i don't use skype so can't comment
[20:11] <chowder> Guest53385: type /nick newNickName where newNickName is your desired nick name
[20:12] <jhutchins> Guest53385: Troubleshoot your connection.  It could very well be at their end, server load or some such.
[20:12] <elham> richac: I don't have sound now in the system! I mean I can't listening to the music :d
[20:12] <richac> beats me
[20:12] <richac> go goole
[20:12] <richac> *google
[20:12] <bazhang> richac, dont say that here
[20:12] <richac> elham: what did you do really?
[20:13] <k1l_> elham: richac can we stop the myths in here and stick to actual support please?
[20:13] <elham> k1l_: all the pdif's sho 00 ! I want to rise them but no way
[20:13] <toma678> jhutchins, when I click the troubleshooting link, I get a zero data error, or it just endlessly sits there until it hits it's TTL
[20:13] <richac> i figured he was lying and joking
[20:13] <k1l_> elham: what is the output port/media?
[20:13] <toma678> jhutchins, now it's thrown a 502
[20:13] <toma678> (bad gateway)
[20:14] <toma678> Leading me to believe it's a curl problem..
[20:14] <k1l_> toma678: the steam repos do have some downtime sometimes
[20:14] <elham> k1l_: what do u mean?
[20:15] <k1l_> toma678: its down for me, too
[20:15] <toma678> k1l_, Alright, guess their auth servers are having their oil changed, thanks :3
[20:15] <elham> k1l_: headphone and laptops speaker! both of them are not working
[20:16] <toma678> just to confirm, k1l_, does the troubleshooting link go dead for you?
[20:16] <k1l_> elham: what is the output port? hdmi? internal speaker?  headphone plug?
[20:16] <richac> elham: what desktop are you using?
[20:16] <k1l_> elham: does it say MM under the lines in alsamixer?
[20:17] <toma678> has he tried PAVU?
[20:17] <richac> toma678: is he telling the truth?  i'm not sure
[20:17] <richac> corey is here to save the day!
[20:17] <k1l_> toma678: steam down. the link, too
[20:18] <toma678> richac, no idea, but you can only do what you can do... PAVU config tab would be my first port of call if he hasn't been there before
[20:18] <toma678> Especially if it's a soundblaster, those damn things have so many little amps an soft-switches...
[20:18] <toma678> Alright, thanks k1l_ :)
[20:23] <Guest23414> I cheked the sound in live session and everything was ok. it means that there is a priblem with configuration :d
[20:23] <Guest23414> :D
[20:24] <pkruz> I've just configured my Ubuntu; installed and configured SW and devices' drivers. It's ready to use but before I will, I want to create something like system/disk backup...
[20:24] <azizLIGHT> anyone try virtualbox with win10? i get error 0x0000005D. what should i do? im on ubuntu 14.04
[20:25] <pkruz> could you give me any general tips what is the best option in Ubuntu?
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> pkruz: option to do what exactly?
[20:25] <pkruz> to create backup of system/disk
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> !backup | pkruz
[20:27] <toma678> pkruz, If you're looking for something more permanent, you could use this. (The site has a nice example to simplify Amanda as much as possible..) http://www.zmanda.com/quick-backup-setup.html
[20:32] <azizLIGHT> is it possible to tell if PAE or NX is enabled without rebooting and cehcking bios
[20:32] <pkruz> OK, thank you guys. One more question in this matter. Let's say I'm going to replace my computer soon and I'd like to migrate with all my stuff to the new one. What solutions should I check?
[20:34] <toma678> pkruz, That would depend on what you want to keep. If you just want to keep your documents and files, you could just backup your ~ folder, if you want a complete system copy, that's a bit more involved.
[20:34] <bubbasaures> pkruz, Have everything you can't loose backed up and clone the HD and reload the new computer. Be aware of the uefi gpt issues if you have a msdos mbr now.
[20:37] <pkruz> toma678: yes, I've on my mind sth like complete system copy
[20:37] <pkruz> I'm wondering if that's possible
[20:38] <adoniscik> why might a command, which is at the front of the path and the top of the which -a list not be the first to the executed?
[20:39] <bubbasaures> pkruz, Did you check the bot's links?
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> how can i disable cups and other services easy?
[20:41] <toma678> pkruz, If you were using LVM, you could just snapshot..?
[20:42] <installer0111> Hello, I have a new computer Im trying to install ubuntu in it, but grub2 cant install itself in the boot mbr... Any ideas on what the problem can be?
[20:42] <pkruz> bubbasaures: I'm checking it, I must read more about it
[20:42] <pkruz> toma678: LVM?
[20:42] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | installer0111
[20:42] <bubbasaures> pkruz, There are handfuls of backup and cloning options, just be sure what you do works. heh.
[20:42] <pkruz> virtual machine?
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> installer0111: did you disable secureboot?
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> how can i disable cups and other unwanted services easy?
[20:43] <installer0111> lotuspsychje: have to go snd check... Thanks
[20:44] <tim-ct> hi all  am i in the right channel for help for the poodle ssl problem
[20:45] <BluesKaj> tim-ct, which OS?
[20:45] <tim-ct> ubuntu 12.04 lts and 14.04 lts
[20:48] <BluesKaj> tim-ct, http://askubuntu.com/questions/537196/how-do-i-patch-workaround-sslv3-poodle-vulnerability-cve-2014-3566
[20:48] <tim-ct> blueskaj: no updates have been issued for it
[20:50] <k1l_> tim-ct: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2385-1/
[20:51] <k1l_> but the askubuntu site really explains that very good
[20:52] <will_> Hello
[20:53] <will_> any girl wanna join me drinking coffee
[20:53] <install001> Hello, I`ve tried to disable secure boot but the option does not exist and UEFI is also disabled, grub can`t install itself on mbr. Any ideas, sugestions?
[20:53] <k1l_> will_: this is not the right channel for this.
[20:54] <will_> I realized that
[20:54] <will_> thank you
[21:00] <EriC^^> install001: which partition table?
[21:00] <EriC^^> gpt?
[21:03] <install002> EriC^^: Did not understand the question...
[21:03] <Guest40782> hi all, I need hel with an ubuntu server 12.04, errors during boot are "mounted filesystem without journal" and "initctl event failed" can you help me?
[21:05] <EriC^^> install002: is the partition table mbr (msdos) or gpt ?
[21:05] <install002> EriC^^: msdos format
[21:05] <EriC^^> install002: ok, so how are you installing grub?
[21:05] <Es0teric> question -- when using a2enmod it works using the filename that was created in sites-available right?
[21:05] <EriC^^> ( msdos shouldn't have a problem with legacy booting, gpt needs a bios-boot partition )
[21:06] <install002> EriC^^: booted from the cd now trying to do grub-install --root-directory=mountedBootDir /dev/sdc
[21:06] <EriC^^> ok, did you chroot?
[21:06] <install002> EriC^^: no...
[21:06] <EriC^^> did you mount the /dev /sys etc. filesystems?
[21:07] <install002> EriC^^: also no...
[21:07] <EriC^^> ok,
[21:07] <EriC^^> so you mounted your ubuntu installation at /mnt ?
[21:07] <sunco50> Hey, I just ran sudo apt-get update and got this error message: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/apps/binary-amd64/Packages  521  Origin Down [IP: 104.28.25.125 80]
[21:07] <sunco50> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/games/binary-amd64/Packages  521  Origin Down [IP: 104.28.25.125 80]
[21:07] <sunco50> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/apps/binary-i386/Packages  521  Origin Down [IP: 104.28.25.125 80]
[21:07] <sunco50> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/games/binary-i386/Packages  521  Origin Down [IP: 104.28.25.125 80]
[21:07] <sunco50> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:07] <sunco50> What does it mean?
[21:07] <install002> EriC^^: only the boot
[21:07] <unopaste> sunco50 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:08] <EriC^^> install002: ok
[21:08] <install002> EriC^^: i`ll try mounting what you said was missing
[21:08] <Ben64> sunco50: we cannot support 3rd party repositories, you should check with getdeb
[21:08] <EriC^^> unmount the boot
[21:08] <EriC^^> umount /path/to/mountpoint
[21:09] <install002> ok
[21:09] <install002> EriC^^: ok
[21:09] <EriC^^> ok, mount the ubuntu installation at /mnt
[21:10] <install002> done
[21:10] <install002> EriC^^: done
[21:10] <EriC^^> ok, mount the boot partition at /mnt/boot
[21:11] <Nectar> Hi. when installing samba, should i plug an ethernet between the two computers or does i haveto go though a router?
[21:11] <install002> it seems to be in the same system (I did a reinstall early before)
[21:11] <install002> EriC^^: it-s in the same /mnt/boot so it`s ok
[21:11] <Ben64> Nectar: when installing samba, you don't need to worry about ethernet at all, to use samba, you do need a network. you can use a crossover cable to directly connect two computers, but using a router would be much easier
[21:12] <Siraris> I have always struggled with file permissions in Linux so I’m hoping someone can help me.  I’m trying to use fputcsv to write a csv to a directory.  The directory is /tmp/MyDir/mysubdir.  I first check if the directory exists using file_exists, and if not, mkdir the dir.  It says I don’t have permissions to create the directory. First of all, what does the permissions of MyDir need to be?  And second of all, who does the owner need to be?
[21:12] <Siraris> drw-rw-rw-  2 www-data www-data    4096 Oct 21 20:44 ParentDir this is the permissions of my parent dir that I’m trying to create a directory into
[21:13] <EriC^^> install002: ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:13] <Ben64> Siraris: what is the actual path, and you do need +x on a directory to properly use it
[21:13] <Nectar> Ben64: My router is abit out of the way, the computers are next to each other. ist a crossover cable an ethernet?
[21:14] <Siraris> Ben64: the path is /tmp/ParentDir
[21:14] <Ben64> Siraris: why are you doing this in /tmp ?
[21:14] <install002> EriC^^: done
[21:14] <Ben64> Nectar: not a standard ethernet cable
[21:14] <Siraris> Ben64: Why not?
[21:14] <EriC^^> install002: ok, sudo chroot /mnt
[21:15] <install002> EriC^^: done
[21:15] <Ben64> Siraris: because it is a temporary directory?
[21:15] <EriC^^> install002: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdx
[21:15] <Siraris> Ben64: This is for writing temporary files
[21:15] <install002> EriC^^: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdc
[21:15] <install002> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[21:15] <install002> Installation finished. No error reported.
[21:15] <Siraris> Ben64: I’m trying to write a csv temporarily to this dir and then delete it
[21:16] <EriC^^> install002: ok, update-grub
[21:16] <Ben64> Siraris: ok well you should re-read my first reply to you
[21:16] <install002> EriC^^: done
[21:16] <Siraris> Ben64: So do I do chmod u+x for the dir?
[21:16] <EriC^^> install002: ok, type exit
[21:16] <install002> EriC^^: ok
[21:17] <Buzhang> !ops
[21:17] <Ben64> Siraris: probably a+x
[21:17] <EriC^^> install002: sudo reboot
[21:17] <Buzhang> whats up mother fuckers
[21:17]  * Ben64 pokes k1l_ 
[21:17] <EriC^^> install002: the bios is set to boot /dev/sdc right?
[21:17] <ahsm> hey guys
[21:17] <Siraris> Ben64:  But that just 777’s it...
[21:17] <Buzhang> ahsm, what the fuck do you want?
[21:17] <install002> EriC^^: Yes, I`ll have to quit because the computer is going to reboot
[21:17] <Ben64> Siraris: correct
[21:17] <ahsm> I added conky to startup applications and added command conky-p10, just rebooted system and it didnt start at startup
[21:17] <EriC^^> install002: ok
[21:17] <Siraris> Why would I want to 777 it?
[21:17] <install002> EriC^^: thank you, brb
[21:18] <Ben64> Siraris: because you want to write to it from your user
[21:18] <Siraris> But isn’t 777 unsafe?
[21:18] <Ben64> depends what is in it really, 777 by itself isn't unsafe
[21:19] <bekks> Siraris: 777 is pretty much always the wrong approach.
[21:19] <Siraris> bekks: I agree
[21:19] <Ben64> its a folder in /tmp you're serving using http for a csv file, what is the problem?
[21:19] <Ben64> unless you want to make your user the owner of it, and make it 755 or something
[21:22] <Nectar> Ben64: Thanks
[21:29] <ahsm> I added conky to startup applications and added command conky-p10, just rebooted system and it didnt start at startup
[21:30] <ahsm> any ideas?
[21:30] <OerHeks> is that script eXecutable?
[21:31] <cryptic0> Why isn't setfacl working for me?  I get no errors, but permissions are not being set correctly.
[21:32] <EriC^^> cryptic0: which fs?
[21:32] <installer001> EriC^^: it worker, but the installation might have some problem...
[21:32] <installer001> EriC^^: thanks again
[21:32] <EriC^^> installer001: what do you mean?
[21:32] <cryptic0> EriC^^: ext4
[21:32] <EriC^^> installer001: no problem
[21:32] <installer001> EriC^^: I was installer002
[21:32] <EriC^^> yes i know
[21:32] <EriC^^> :)
[21:32] <EriC^^> what do you mean about the installation might have a problem though?
[21:33] <EriC^^> cryptic0: what's the command you're issuing?
[21:33] <geirha> cryptic0: And you've enabled acl on the filesystem?
[21:33] <geirha> (you have to enable it via the "acl" mount option)
[21:33] <cryptic0> EriC^^: sudo setfacl -R -d -m g:groupname:rwx /test
[21:34] <cryptic0> geirha: I assumed it was enabled since I didn't get an error
[21:36] <geirha> cryptic0: It's not, you have to add acl to the list of options in the fstab entry
[21:37] <EriC^^> cryptic0: which ubuntu is this?
[21:37] <cryptic0> EriC^^: latest 14.04 server
[21:38] <EriC^^> ok, i think it's not necessary
[21:38] <EriC^^> you could try to add it if you want
[21:39] <cryptic0> EriC^^: I added acl to the filesystem in /etc/fstab
[21:39] <cryptic0> how do I make that go into effect
[21:40] <EriC^^> cryptic0: you have to remount it i guess
[21:40] <cryptic0> so umount and then mount?
[21:41] <EriC^^> mount -o remount /
[21:41] <cryptic0> sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda4 /mountpoint  <- like that?
[21:41] <EriC^^> not necessary, sudo mount -o remount /mountpoint
[21:42] <cryptic0> ah ok
[21:42] <structuralist> does anyone know about haskell-platform? I installed it and "ghci" gives me "command not found", though ghc is fine
[21:44] <cryptic0> does not work
[21:44] <cryptic0> EriC^^: ^^
[21:44] <sogeking99> hey guys, i'm trying to write a cd for music, that will play on cd players. It seems that it writes data cd's? Do they work in cd players?
[21:45] <EriC^^> cryptic0: yeah
[21:45] <EriC^^> what's the exact command you're running?
[21:45] <EriC^^> ( the setfacl command )
[21:45] <cryptic0> sudo setfacl -R -d -m g:groupname:rwx /path/to/folder
[21:46] <cryptic0> then I go to /path/to/folder, and do mkdir blah, and it fails
[21:46] <navetz> sogeking99, some cd plays can play data cd's which can hold over a lot of songs. Others can only play certain formats which you have to burn as an audio cd. it can only hold 20-25 songs
[21:46] <cryptic0> EriC^^: drwxr-xr-x+ 2 root    root     4096 Oct 21 17:43 test
[21:46] <EriC^^> ok and mkdir inside of test doesn't?
[21:47] <cryptic0> EriC^^: nope
[21:48] <sogeking99> navetz, oh I see. I don't use cd's these days, a friend asked me to burn them to a cd for her. I worry that I'll waste the disks making a data disc.
[21:49] <Blaster> How can I make Ubuntu and RhythmBox stop freezing when I plug in my iPhone?  I only really want to charge it and it always messes my system up when I plug it in.
[21:49] <cryptic0> EriC^^: this is getfacl output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8619965/
[21:50] <navetz> sogeking99, if she is trying to use it in a car you should probably burn it as an audiocd
[21:51] <sogeking99> navetz, She uses it in a CD player which she has in her house.
[21:52] <cyphase> does anyone remember the name of that service that lets you redirect a port on their server to yourself through a nat?
[21:53] <cyphase> i think you connected to them, and the traffic was piped back to you through that
[21:54] <cyphase> i just can't remember the name
[21:54] <jhutchins> Blaster: What if you shut down rythymbox before you plug it in?
[21:55] <sogeking99> can ubuntu even burn audio cd's by default? I don't see the option.
[21:55] <Ben64> pretty much any burning software can do so
[21:55] <MagicSpud> hey I tried to change the skype icon using alacarte and it vanished!! how do i get it back???
[21:58] <MagicSpud> I tell you what then I tried...just to load the /usr/share/skype/avatars/skype.png icon but...it wont show!
[21:59] <sogeking99> wait a second. she said she usually takes them from the cd and puts them on her mp3. you think that means she can use data discs? or can you do that with audio discs?
[22:00] <Ben64> sogeking99: it would be quite silly to go from mp3->audio cd->mp3
[22:01] <sogeking99> yeah ok, it's really late so im going to do a data disc, which seems most logical as you pointed out. If I mess up I will reimburse her haha. Thanks.
[22:04] <sauce> hey, i have ubuntu server 12.04. I am missing /usr/bin/Mail.  so i tried to apt-get install update-alternatives, but the package doesn't exist. anyone know what i'm talkin about?
[22:10] <MagicSpud> there is a /usr/share/alacarte/ folder...but  I cant find there my customized shortcuts...where would I find my chosen preferences?
[22:11] <MagicSpud> I dont see that info stored in my home folder
[22:11] <MagicSpud> oh
[22:12] <MagicSpud> /home/me/.local/share/applications is that it?
[22:20] <akiva-thinkpad> how do I force install a deb I downloaded?
[22:20] <n1> hi all
[22:20] <n1> wow so much people
[22:20] <n1> how to install virtual box on kubuntu?
[22:20] <bekks> sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[22:21] <n1> 2 upgraded, 20 newly installed, 0 to remove and 324 not upgraded.
[22:21] <n1> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:21] <n1> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[22:21] <akiva-thinkpad> n1 open a terminal, and type "sudo apt-get install virtualbox"
[22:21] <akiva-thinkpad> thats is what he means.
[22:22] <akiva-thinkpad> n1, that may mean that you have another program trying to install software
[22:22] <n1> ah
[22:22] <n1> ok
[22:22] <n1> yes thats right
[22:22] <n1> im just not find virtualbox in muon discover
[22:22] <k1l_> you cant open the package system from multi apps. close all and just use the terminal for now
[22:23] <n1> yes. thanks alot.
[22:23] <n1> trying later
[22:24] <n1> so much people here
[22:24] <n1> im just moved from Mint
[22:24] <dagerik> my email is not showing up even after this message from msmtp: okt. 21 21:35:57 host=smtp.stud.ntnu.no tls=off auth=off from=dageriv@stud.ntnu.no recipients=dageriv@stud.ntnu.no mailsize=131 smtpstatus=250 smtpmsg='250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as A806D916DF9' exitcode=EX_OK
[22:28] <n1> why I cant find Skype in Muon Discover
[22:29] <n1> sudo apt-get install skype
[22:29] <n1> Reading package lists... Done
[22:29] <n1> Building dependency tree
[22:29] <n1> Reading state information... Done
[22:29] <n1> E: Unable to locate package skype
[22:29] <unopaste> n1 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:29] <k1l_> !skype | n1
[22:29] <OerHeks> n1 enable 3th party stuff in muon > sources
[22:30] <n1> what URL?
[22:31] <n1> ok i got it
[22:31] <n1> thanks
[22:31] <n1> ubottu is a bot?
[22:31] <EriC^^> what is Muon Discovery?
[22:34] <k1l_> muon is the kde software center thingy
[22:34] <gstaniak> hi
[22:34] <EriC^^> oh ok
[22:34] <gstaniak> is there a way to install a firefox addon for all users in 14.04?
[22:44] <guest541> why ubuntu does not gparted installed by default?
[22:46] <akiva-thinkpad> Is there any file here that acts as a project file that I can open in an ide? http://i.imgur.com/5Oudqjz.png
[22:47] <Chotaz> Hey guys, anyone has any advice on an good utility for data recovery of half-broken or recently formatted HDDs?
[22:47] <EriC^^> Chotaz: testdisk
[22:48] <Bashing-om> mic-w: :)
[22:48] <Chotaz> EriC^^: does it come along with ubuntu? I'm going for a livecd boot
[22:49] <EriC^^> Chotaz: nope, sudo apt-get install testdisk
[22:49] <acerspyro> Keyboard = User?
[22:49] <acerspyro> "You are the interface"?
[22:49] <Chotaz> EriC^^: thanks mate, will be back in a bit
[22:49] <acerspyro> That's what it seems to be telling me when the live CD loads.
[22:49] <EriC^^> Chotaz: no problem
[22:50] <rww> acerspyro: "for accessibility options, press any key"
[22:50] <rww> acerspyro: it's not clear, i agree
[22:50] <acerspyro> oh
[22:50] <k1l_> acerspyro: it actually says: if you are a human beeing press a key
[22:50] <acerspyro> lol
[22:50] <acerspyro> Mystified me a lot
[22:50] <rww> acerspyro: we can't translate that screen though, so putting words on it is a bit of a problem
[22:50] <acerspyro> rww: Just put it in the 5 most common languages
[22:51] <acerspyro> one over the other
[22:51] <rww> I gather they didn't like that option. But yeah, that's what it means :)
[22:51] <acerspyro> rww: I am not disabled and idk what it means
[22:52] <acerspyro> do you expect someone who is disabled to understand it more?
[22:52] <ultrixx> today is utopic unicorn release day, right?
[22:52] <rww> no
[22:52] <rww> thursday
[22:53] <ultrixx> oh thanks
[22:53] <acerspyro> Monday, tuesday, uTpic unicorn release day, thursday, fiday...
[22:55] <rww> Ubuntu releases are always on Thursdays ;)
[22:59] <Linnak> hu, is there somthing that i miss when I want full working in vbox?
[22:59] <Linnak> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11
[23:00] <jhutchins> Linnak: If nobody here knows there's #vbox
[23:00] <Linnak> They don't know ubuntu
[23:01] <Linnak> ubuntu wrote those packages so this is the place where i have to ask
[23:04] <rww> Linnak: 1) is Ubuntu the guest or host? 2) if the guest, are you running a graphical desktop environment or commandline?
[23:04] <Linnak> 1 guest 2 gnome
[23:04] <rww> Linnak: just install virtualbox-guest-x11, it'll pull in what it needs
[23:05] <Linnak> ok thanks
[23:05] <fakam> Hi I am downloading Lubuntu, can you run gnome with lubuntu? and does lubuntu have all the hardware drivers as ubuntu does?
[23:05] <rww> (if I recall correctly, it pulls in the other two packages you mentioned too)
[23:05] <rww> fakam: Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE desktop environment by default. Yes, you can switch it to GNOME (but you could also just get Ubuntu GNOME), and yes it has the exact same kernel/drivers.
[23:06] <fakam> yea but not a fan of unity
[23:06] <Stinky_Feet> Linnak: If Ubuntu is the guest, you can tell VirtualBox (on the host) to install the guest additions, but it will need the kernel headrs and minimal tool chain installled on the guest, because it will try to compile it on the fly.
[23:06] <fakam> ubuntu runs slow on my laptop
[23:07] <bekks> Linnak: And "they" know Ubuntu, they even provide official packages and installation instructions. I already gave you the link.
[23:07] <fakam> 4 gigs of memory  1.2ghz
[23:07] <rww> fakam: I said Ubuntu GNOME, not normal Ubuntu
[23:07] <acerspyro> Why doesn't Ubuntu come with Pavucontrol?
[23:07] <fakam> ahh
[23:07] <rww> fakam: http://ubuntugnome.org/
[23:07] <richac> acerspyro: you can just use alsamixer from terminal
[23:08] <fakam> i guess i will stick with lxde since its faster
[23:08] <acerspyro> richac: any normal user would install it right after the OS is done installing, or will be told to.
[23:08] <fakam> thanks rww
[23:08] <Linnak> bekks: I'm looking for the line which says use distro packages I read last week
[23:08] <Chotaz> EriC^^:  apt-get cant seem to find testdisk, is it not available on the general repos_
[23:08] <bekks> Linnak: There never was a line like that on the link I gave you.
[23:09] <EriC^^> Chotaz: try to add the universe repo
[23:09] <richac> acerspyro: i don't use it,   i do use the pulse audio equalizer though
[23:09] <Jeffrey_f> join #thunderbird
[23:10] <acerspyro> richac: And why would it not be included with pavucontrol???
[23:10] <acerspyro> Now if I want basic stuff I need to install a ton of things that should come with pulseaudio in the first place...
[23:11] <squinty> Jeffrey_f:  irc.mozilla.org   /join #thunderbird
[23:12] <Jeffrey_f> squinty: Yep. I knew what I wanted to type, my finger missed the slash
[23:12] <squinty> Jeffrey_f:  the offical thunderbird channel is on irc.mozilla.org not here on freenode
[23:13] <sjuxax> Suppose I want to wipe the only filesystem on the server but still be able to trigger a shutdown from the shell. It seems likely /sbin/shutdown is dynamically linked. How could I do this?
[23:14] <nuke1989>  i have only port 80 open and that cant be changed. So i want to make a server and route traffic through that server so that i can finally access whatever port i want. any help? :D
[23:14] <Jeffrey_f> Thanks squinty
[23:14] <EriC^^> sjuxax: ?
[23:14] <squinty>  Jeffrey_f: yw
[23:22] <sjuxax> EriC^^: I'm intentionally destroying the filesystem mounted at /. I want to turn off the machine after the carnage is complete. How do I do that, considering all shutdown binaries will be removed? I copied /sbin/shutdown into /tmp, but since it's dynamically linked, it will just be sad that its friends at /lib and/or /usr/lib aren't around anymore and will not actually shut off my machine.
[23:22] <daftykins> that doesn't sound like a legitimate problem.
[23:23] <rww> alt-sysrq-b
[23:23] <rww> or is it a remote server
[23:24] <Kawaiola> Would I run into any problems running server services on a desktop verzion of ubuntu
[23:24] <rww> It has security impact because you have more stuff running. Otherwise, no.
[23:25] <kbrosnan> and the desktop would be running so there would be less free ram and other system resources
[23:25] <Kawaiola> rww, Okay so less security, otherwise the services should work just the same?
[23:25] <rww> Kawaiola: yep
[23:26] <Kawaiola> I'm trying to make a web interface with wordpress that people in my house can access locally but I want to use elementary os gui .
[23:27] <Kawaiola> Can you download any desktop distro on top of ubuntu server?
[23:28] <rww> Elementary OS isn't Ubuntu, it's a derivative that we don't support.
[23:28] <EriC^^> Kawaiola: you can sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:28] <rww> You can install any desktop environment in our repositories just fine on Ubuntu Server, yes.
[23:29] <Kawaiola> EriC^^, rww I know it isn't Ubuntu but I figured they were pretty similar, and I had ubuntu-desktop but it had too much installed with it.
[23:31] <EriC^^> you can try xubuntu lubuntu ubuntu-gnome etc.
[23:32] <Kawaiola> EriC^^, I saw those as well as lxde, I guess I have just been real stuck on elementary os but if I can use it to run my lamp and samba services then I guess I don't need to install it on top of ubuntu server.
[23:33] <awesomess3> what games do you play?
[23:33] <richac> bf3, skyrim, mwo, rift
[23:33] <pkruz> can I use bootable pendrive with linux to install system on VBox?
[23:34] <awesomess3> richac, all of those on ubuntu?
[23:34] <EriC^^> pkruz: there's no need, you can use the .iso directly
[23:34] <richac> no all on windows lol
[23:34] <richac> on ubuntu  css and dota2 i guess
[23:37] <k1l_> awesomess3: for that sort of polls better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:37] <sjuxax> rww: it's remote
[23:37] <dreki> TF2, CS:GO, Xcom:enemy unknown, dota2 all work great for me on ubuntu.
[23:38] <dreki> Oh, I thought we were in offtopic
[23:45] <parshap> Does anyone know how to regenerate GraphicsMagick's type.mgk configuration file to include new system fonts?
[23:48] <tapout> when it comes to printers, how do we know if it's supported or not?
[23:48] <Magni> #argentina
[23:57] <squinty> tapout:  http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[23:59] <bubbasaures> tapout, Open printers and see if it is recognized.
[23:59] <Steven-mobile> when installing ubuntu on ssd, do i just want root / on my ssd and swap and home on my hdd?