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ScottKRiddell: Accepted.03:15
soeegood morning :)06:28
valoriebtw Riddell, please subscribe to kde-soc-mentor list06:28
valoriehi soee06:28
soeehi valorie, nice speak yesterday :)06:29
valoriethanks!06:29
valorienot what I expected though06:30
valoriebut I didn't waste my research; I blogged it06:30
soee:)06:30
lordievaderGood morning.06:38
soeehiho lordievader06:40
lordievaderHey soee, how are you doing?06:41
soeelordievader: cant complain today :) you ?06:42
lordievaderDoing okay, I guess.06:42
soee:)06:42
Riddell** all new images to test ↑08:10
Riddell!testers | 14.10 release candidates08:10
ubottu14.10 release candidates: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlue  for information08:10
Riddell"Your membership in ubuntu-irc-members is about to expire" Tm_T do I want to be part of that?08:17
Tm_TRiddell: yes, as that's the group that votes IRCC for example08:21
valoriehmmm, am I a member of that?08:21
valorieoh, gotta be, I'm on the irc list08:22
Tm_Twill try install Utopic-plasma5 to new donation laptop I got last week08:25
valorienice!08:28
soeeTm_T: Plasma5 works fine on both my laptop and work machine :)08:28
valoriealthough that's not exactly the testing Riddell is asking for.....08:29
soeewhats more on my work machine it works much better than defualt oine08:29
Tm_Tthat one is going to my soon 6-year old daughter, let's see how she likes it08:29
valorieooo, that's nice to hear!08:29
valoriep5 runs on the little old atom netbook I have08:30
valoriealthough it is slower than a snail08:30
valoriebut it's slow by nature08:30
valorienot plasma's fault08:30
lordievaderI hope to be able to test a few ISO's this afternoon.08:33
Tm_Tvalorie: this one is quite recent Acer Aspire One, I upgraded it to 2 GiB of ram08:36
valorievery cool08:38
valorieI'll trade for the netbook, all loaded!08:38
valorieeven has a case......08:38
valorieand stickers@!08:38
valorielittle, cute08:38
valoriejust slow08:38
Riddellyay, upgrade worked for me10:17
Tm_Thmmmmm, maybe I should upgrade my work laptop too10:24
Riddell** proofreaders needed, how's this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu10:42
soeeRiddell: 8) Time for a coffee, tt will download and install 14.10.  - what is tt ?10:44
bukaiRiddell, Should I register myself for SoK for the test.kubuntu.co.uk project?10:52
bukaiovidiu-florin, ping11:02
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/p9gdjubqe/jxvzgb/raw11:15
Riddellsoee: fixed thanks11:15
shadeslayerRiddell: you most certainly want to try it out in a sid pbuilder11:15
Riddellbukai: sure go ahead11:28
Antisoundhi guys! please help me! 11:30
Antisoundmy plasmashell crashed and i can't restart it anymore11:30
Antisoundhow can i kill complete x-session?11:31
Antisoundplease help me!11:33
Antisoundnobody there?11:35
soeeAntisound: after reboot plasmashell does not start ?11:36
Antisoundsoee: no!11:37
Antisoundthat's the problem ;-)11:37
soeewhat do you have after reboot ?11:37
Antisoundthe old "session"11:37
Antisoundwith the last open programs11:37
Antisoundetc.11:37
soeedo you have access to krunner or temrinal ?11:38
Antisoundterminal11:38
Riddellshadeslayer: may have some info http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/110177/bash-adds-extra-single-quotes11:38
Antisoundvia ctrl alt f111:38
soeeand if you execute: plasmashell ?11:39
Antisoundcould not connect to display11:39
shadeslayerlets see11:39
Antisoundsoee: exactly qxcbconnection: could not connect to display11:40
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/pvocenhp111:40
shadeslayerRiddell: didn't work11:40
shadeslayerlb config: unrecognized option '--option'11:40
soeeoh i have no idea what qxcbconnection is :)11:40
Antisoundme neither11:40
shadeslayerRiddell: because in the end it gets evaluated to : -m http://127.0.0.1:3142/debian --apt-secure false --apt-options=--yes --option Dpkg::Options::=--force-overwrite --source false "${@}"11:41
Antisoundsoee: isn't there a command to kill "everything"11:41
Antisoundto reset everything?11:41
shadeslayerRiddell: without the quotes11:41
soeeAntisound: probably, but im not sure what it is11:41
Antisoundwhat is the window manager in plasma 5? kwin_x11?11:42
AntisoundRiddell: do you have any clue?11:42
Riddellkwin_x11 is the window manager11:42
Antisoundwhy can't i kill it so everything is reset? 11:43
Riddellyou need to export DISPLAY=:111:43
Riddellhowever I recommend this as a great time to test the candidate ISOs11:43
AntisoundRiddell: you mean't me?11:44
Antisoundmeant11:44
Riddellyes11:44
Antisoundnothing happens with export11:44
Antisoundi can't believe there's no command to kill the whole system11:46
Antisoundto set it back to zero again11:46
Antisoundto i really have to reinstall everything?11:47
Antisounddo i have to?11:50
Antisoundare you serious?11:50
soeeAntisound: maybe there is something wrong with some configuration11:50
Antisoundsoee: plasmashell crashed while working and it doesn't restart anymore,... what configuration could be wrong?11:50
soeeAntisound: in your home folder try to rename .kde to .kde_bak and .config to .config_bak, empty .cache and /var/tmp/ {your user kde cache} than try to reboot11:52
Antisoundok11:52
Antisoundi try11:52
Antisoundttyl11:53
kikideeshadeslayer: happy diwali 12:06
sgclarkmorning12:13
kikideesgclark: morning12:13
kikideesgclark: are you a developer?12:14
sgclarkin training12:14
Riddellsgclark: nonsense, you're a developer12:15
kikideeRiddell: hello 12:15
sgclark:)12:15
Riddellyou never get to know it all, we're all in training12:15
Riddellhi kikidee, want to be an elite kubuntu ninja?12:15
kikideeRiddell: I am already :) I am using another nick to stay anonymous for some reason :)12:16
kikideeRiddell: I wasn't sure you would be available now12:17
kikideeso is the release testing still on?12:17
Riddellyep, testers needed12:17
sgclarkRiddell: were you able to read my notes on khelpcenter path issue12:17
kikideeCan i discuss a bug with you now?12:18
sgclarkoh testing, that sounds like my cup of tea today12:18
sgclarkwhat , where? Riddell12:18
Riddellhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds12:19
sgclarkty12:19
kikideeThere is a bug in the kubuntu installer that blocks the main install process12:19
Riddell4 images need testing in various different ways plus upgrades from 14.0412:19
Riddellkikidee: this sounds bad, what happens?12:20
sgclarkok12:20
kikideeI had discussed this with yofel longtime ago,m probably 2 releases back12:20
kikideethe proprietary driver-installer when trying to install the nvidia driver block the main process. In a country where the internet speed is arount 512 kbps this download takes 53 mins approximately12:21
* sgclark grumbles at nvidia12:22
kikideeuntil then the install process waits with a hour glass without proceeding to the partitioning screen12:22
kikideeyofel was looking at the python script way back I dont know happened as I was not in touch with the devs 12:24
Riddellentirely likey that nothing happened12:24
kikidee:)12:25
kikideeas far as I see this is not an issue when the internet connection is good, by saying good I mean > 10 mbps12:26
BluesKajHiyas all12:26
kikideeBluesKaj: hi12:26
kikideeBluesKaj: how are you12:26
soeehiho BluesKaj12:27
BluesKajhi kikidee, fine thanks, and you?12:27
BluesKajHey soee12:27
kikideeBluesKaj: I am fine too, I am in stealth mode :), I am a person you know already 12:28
soeeBluesKaj: you are on konversation right ?12:28
BluesKajyup12:28
soeewhat icon on taskbar does it have for you (on plasma5) ?12:28
Riddellkikidee: yep sounds like something that should get looked at but alas I won't have the time soon and it's fiddly especially since I don't have nvidia12:29
kikideeRiddell: ok, not an issue, but can you takecare of this later when you have time ?12:30
ovidiu-florinbukai: pong12:31
kikideeRiddell: I mean ask someone to fix this later?12:32
bukaiovidiu-florin:  Can you please send me some linksfrom where i can get somee idea on drupal themes12:32
ovidiu-florinwhy drupal themes?12:33
sgclarkkikidee: can you make a bug report? so we remember to look at it12:33
soeedrupal ?12:33
kikideesgclark: no12:33
kikideesgclark: I need to first confirm if this a policy and get to know something before filing a bug report12:35
ovidiu-florinbukai: if you must: https://www.drupal.org/documentation/theme12:36
BluesKajsoee, it has the recognizable konversation icon, but make sure it;s always visiable in the system tray settings , it tends to change settings for no reason to auto which doesn't always work12:38
Riddellkikidee: do you know if there is a bug report?12:56
kikideeRiddell: dont know, I will check now12:57
RiddellMirv: any thoughts on when Qt 5.4 will get into the archive? release is expected end of this month and I'm wondering if Plasma 5.3 to be released at the end of the year should be allowed to use it12:58
Riddellmitya57: ↑12:59
MirvRiddell: there are quite a few complexities. the good thing (from your point of view) is that I'm hearing the rtm derivative will be around for a couple of months still. at minimum that should mean that I can upload at least my 5.3.2 work to vivid quite soon.13:02
RiddellMirv: rtm?13:02
apacheloggerRiddell: touch image13:02
MirvRiddell: for 5.4.0, I know that from touch point of view (which is kind of rolling LTS instead of development version...) .1 or .2 would be better choices to upload to archives, but on the other hand if 5.4.0 would be as good as 5.3.0 was (although 5.3 was stability oriented too), then it would not pose too big problems hopefully13:02
MirvRiddell: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm the derivative distro used to build images in addition to ubuntu13:03
Mirvit'd also be nice to see what kind of packaging changes Debian does with 5.4.0, if they package it to experimental now that they're frozen for 5.3.2 for the release13:05
MirvRiddell: it would be very very nice if it could be considered what kind of implications would having Qt 5.3.2 initially for Plasma 5.3 have. because I know there are conflicting schedules, as usual.13:06
Riddellshadeslayer: apachelogger: Plasma 5.2 meeting  in #plasma13:07
Mirvand to speak truth, at this point I simply don't know completely what I will be allowed to do or not and in which time frames. I'll start preparing 5.4.0 in a PPA as soon as it's available though, and since 5.3.2 starts to be ~ready I'll look at 5.4.0 beta too13:07
* soee is going to spy the meeting in #plasma13:07
kikideeRiddell:  seached ubiquity-kde and ubiquity in bug reports, can't find any report relevant to the problem I stated13:08
Riddellkikidee: thanks, please report one then13:08
Riddellthanks Mirv 13:08
apacheloggerirc meetings are much confusing13:12
* sgclark is lurking in plasma meeting13:16
Riddellhow's this for release image? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-14.10-launch.png15:20
Riddellwhy no iso tests?15:25
Riddelllordievader: high five for being a lonely iso tester15:25
* Riddell nudges more to test http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds15:25
lordievaderRiddell: Sad news though. On my kvm the iso's cannot shutdown they hang. And the first install I did doesn't seem to boot properly... :(15:26
Riddellwaa15:26
lordievaderI hope it is my kvm/kvm-settings...15:27
sgclarkI am testing, slowly15:29
Riddellsgclark: can you mark tests as running so we don't duplicate too much15:32
Riddellnot that duplication is a bad thing necessarily15:32
sgclarksorry yes15:32
lordievaderAh selecting a different video device seems to have fixed the boot problem. Phew, it was my kvm :)15:36
sgclarkauto-resize does not seem to exist, are there some requirements that must be met for this to show up?15:44
lordievadersgclark: Yes. Your disk needs to be large enough. I forgot how large.15:45
HmpfCBRanyone tried the installer of the current daily with kvm? I get ubi-console-setup error 141 when using german language in the installer, going from timezone to keyboard (german keyboard). If I ignore it the error, the installer crashes during the installation step.15:47
lordievaderHmpfCBR: And to answer, I've installed it in kvm and did not face that error. It installed fine.15:48
HmpfCBRlordievader: which language did you use in the installer (not keyboard language)15:48
lordievaderEnglish15:48
HmpfCBRtrying that currently, and it seems to work for me as well. but with german language it did not. will try to reproduce one more time.15:49
lordievaderHmpfCBR: Please report your findings on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com15:51
shadeslayerRiddell: this looks weird http://launchpadlibrarian.net/186984283/casper_1.344_1.345.diff.gz15:53
shadeslayerRiddell: why not put it in XDG_DATA_DIRS or something similar15:53
shadeslayerto override the plasma one15:53
RiddellHmpfCBR: ug really? nasty16:00
RiddellHmpfCBR: please report on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds16:00
Riddell** proofreaders please read over this http://www.kubuntu.org/content/download-kubuntu-016:01
sgclarkwhy is 32bit recommended?16:02
Riddellgood question16:02
Riddellit used to be because 32bit worked on all PCs while 64 didn't so default to what works everywhere16:03
Riddellbut with uefi that's no longer the case16:03
sgclarkotherwise looks good16:03
Riddellubuntu switched over a couple of releases ago16:03
Riddellbut we didn't for reasons I forget16:03
Riddellalso if anyone can work out how to make that page work if you don't have javascript that would be good16:04
Riddellsgclark: alternate wording suggestions welcomed16:09
Riddellbut there's no easy way for a non-techy user to know what their computer is16:09
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BlizzzRiddell: 14.10 LTS?16:15
sgclarkRiddell: I guess I am confused. We did not switch to uefi? so then it is still an issue? if so we have to leave 32bit as recommended I guess...16:15
sgclarkahh yes you have 14.10 as LTS16:16
sgclarkme thinks that is wrong16:16
lordievaderIt was on the mailing list a couple of months back.16:19
Blizzzthe MD5 sums go over the edge16:20
Blizzzon 14.10 Plasma 5 the download buttons are all labeled 14.0416:21
Blizzzand it is written "Install from Kubuntu 14.10 with Plasma 4" instead of … Plasma 516:22
sgclarkactually that is right, the directions are to upgrade16:22
RiddellBlizzz: 14.10 lts fixed thanks (check I got them all please)16:22
Blizzzin the following regular text as well16:22
BlizzzRiddell: 14.10 /w Plasma 5 still looks odd too me, though refreshed via Ctrl+R16:23
sgclarkRiddell: Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5 download says 14.0416:24
RiddellBlizzz, sgclark: updated, please check I got them all16:27
sgclarkRiddell: you can use <noscript> tags with info, will make for a very long page though. to I guess non js users would be used to that16:27
BlizzzRiddell: the header say Plasma 4 not Plasma 5 (total wording: Install from Kubuntu 14.10 with Plasma 4)16:28
RiddellBlizzz: yeah that's right, it's instructions for people who are running Plasma 4 and want to upgrade to Plasma 5, suggestions for better wording welcome16:28
Blizzzah16:29
Blizzzok, sorry16:29
BlizzzRiddell: looks good!16:29
sgclarkRiddell: keep capitalization consistant. first 14.04 LTS has older PCs/newer and last one has Older PCs etc16:30
Riddellsgclark: fixed16:31
Riddellalthogh Older PCs isn't accurate either since you can buy new netbooks with i38616:32
HmpfCBRRiddell, lordievader, false alarm, used an old iso instead of the current daily. sorry for noise.16:32
RiddellHmpfCBR: awooga :)16:33
lordievaderHmpfCBR: \o/16:33
RiddellI thought I'd fixed that bug16:33
Riddell(at the cost of translations, sigh)16:33
lordievaderHmpfCBR: If you have some time, please test the current iso too :D16:33
HmpfCBRcurrently on it. that bug is solved. but Riddell is correct keyboard selection dialog says German instead of "Deutsch" now. one can live with that I think. ;)16:34
sgclarkRiddell: looks good16:34
_Groo_guys to test next, do i need to add the next ppa, or utopic already has all thje pckages upstream?16:44
Riddell_Groo_: you either need to install the Plasma 5 image (testers very welcome) or you need to follow the instructions at https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu16:49
Riddell** proofreaders please review kubuntu.org/content/kubuntu-141017:10
sgclarkRiddell: releaess under upgrading17:12
sgclarkRiddell: comma in here: bugfixes but  under Choose Stable..17:13
sgclarkRiddell: comma before but:  We love testers but 17:14
sgclarkotherwise looks good17:15
Riddellyous americans and your love of Oxford commas :)17:17
sgclarklol17:17
sgclarkblame my english teacher17:17
_Groo_k, im doing a dist-upgrade from trusty -> utopic and a kde 4.x -> 5.x via ppa update17:17
_Groo_lets see howmuch it breaks17:17
_Groo_hurrah for apt-btrfs-snapshot :)17:17
Riddell_Groo_: hang on can you follow the upgrade process?17:18
Riddell_Groo_: this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu17:18
Riddellalthough that misses out a step17:19
sgclarkRiddell: if you want to avoid a comma, Split this sentencfe, it is much to long. support is offered if there are . offered and if is a good breaking point.17:20
_Groo_Riddell: unfortunatelly i cant because the link at work is very slow, so im running apt-fast to speed things up17:20
sgclarks/sentencfe/sentence/17:20
kubotusgclark meant: "Riddell: if you want to avoid a comma, Split this sentence, it is much to long. support is offered if there are . offered and if is a good breaking point."17:20
_Groo_but i tested with manager-update 2 weeks ago and it worked17:20
_Groo_update-manager17:20
_Groo_but i tested only kde 4.x to oneiric17:21
Riddellbukai: did you get anywhere with adding the google stuff to drupal?17:21
bukaiI am getting an hold of the drupal , will be able to put the analytics code to use by tomorrow17:22
Riddellsgclark: voila17:22
sgclarkbukai: all you need to do is put it in template.php17:23
sgclarkbukai: no need to learn drupal as I am fairly positive we are going to wordpress17:23
bukaisgclark:  just that will be all?17:23
sgclarkyup17:23
Riddellright, adding it to the current drupal site is just a quick way to check on traffic17:23
bukaiok17:24
* sgclark is a retired web designer17:24
sgclarkRiddell: looks good17:25
Riddellhttp://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-14.10-launch.png  how's this?17:42
lordievaderRiddell: Fancy :)17:43
sgclarkRiddell: one desktop is blurred at bottom but not other? seems awkward17:43
Riddellno deliberate effect, they're just resized somewhere along the line17:48
soeeRiddell: kdetelepathy 0.9 wont make into 14.10 ?17:54
Riddellsoee: alas no, d_ed was slow and lazy and missed it, but we'll get it into backports17:55
soee:D17:55
soeeok so next year i have to get into packaging 17:56
_Groo_k, i just upgraded from trusty to oneiric17:57
_Groo_and from kde 4,.x to 5.x in ppa net17:57
_Groo_next17:57
soeeoneiric :o17:57
_Groo_aparently im missing the keyboard, icons and there are less options in systemsettings?17:57
_Groo_utopic utopic17:57
sgclarkRiddell: what time frame on that image? I think I can improve it.17:58
soee_Groo_: i can tell you teh same i did to other that had problems with Plasma5 after upgrade, best is to "reset" kde settings and condigurations also ampty cache17:59
Riddellsgclark: the kubuntu-14.10-launch.png ?  needs to be ready when we release tomorrow which will be some unspecified time in the european afternoon/washington DC midday18:00
_Groo_soee: i removed .kde entirely18:00
Riddellit's complex because the sysadmins need to copy it over to the web server but we can find somewhere else to host it worse case18:00
sgclarkwashington DC? lol18:00
_Groo_where do i clean the cache?18:00
Riddellsoee: yay, packaging is great, you know you want to18:00
Riddellsgclark: seems canonical had the great idea of having a conference in DC at the same time as release week18:01
soee_Groo_: i suggest remove (bckup) .kde, .config, empty .cache and /var/tmp/ {your user kde cache}18:01
sgclarkoh I see18:01
sgclark<Riddell: well I can work images well, (just not imaginative) I can do that instead of testing if you wish, keeping the same concept but making "prettier"18:02
Riddellsgclark: sure go ahead18:03
_Groo_soee: k, let me test18:03
RiddellI'll get into some testing18:03
sgclarkRiddell: ok great18:03
soee_Groo_: give me some info if it worked for you after reboot18:05
_Groo_still missing the icons18:13
_Groo_its showing the ubuntu ones18:13
_Groo_although in settings i have breeze set18:14
soeeubuntu ?18:14
_Groo_yeah18:15
soeein whole system or only gtk apps ?18:15
_Groo_soee: no, for ex, system settings is showing the gnome icons18:18
soeeoO18:18
soeeyou are running multiple DE ?18:19
_Groo_let me create a test user18:19
_Groo_yeah, unity and plasma518:19
soeeah sorry then, im using only teh best one :D18:19
_Groo_lolol18:19
soeecan t help you with oters :)18:19
_Groo_how do i resize the plasma notification, like network manager18:20
_Groo_its too small as it is18:20
soeei think you cant atm18:21
_Groo_btw in your system settings, is shortcuts missing an icon?18:22
soeenope18:23
soeeits some cache issue probably18:23
* Riddell pops open some wine and shares it around for the evening's testing18:25
_Groo_alcohol and testing, are you learning from apachelogger ? 18:27
Riddellspeaking of which.. where is apachelogger?18:32
_Groo_prolly plotting... in the dark, laughing... insanely... eating small kittens...18:32
_Groo_the usual[18:32
apacheloggerRiddell: hiding18:32
_Groo_soee: interesting... when i apply a new package (breeze, oxygen, whatever), it changes most icons in the system, but NOT systemsettings, thoughts?18:33
Riddellapachelogger: ah excellent, you can do some testing while you hide away18:33
lordievaderRiddell: When testing the oem installer I stumbled upon a window claiming the installer has crashed. Below seems to be a text field but it is empty.18:53
Riddelllordievader: wibble18:56
Riddelllordievader: at what stage of the install?18:56
lordievaderThe last stage, after rebooting the oem setup.18:57
Riddelllordievader: are you able to get a screenshot/18:57
Riddell?18:57
Riddelllooks like we have new images :(18:59
lordievaderRiddell: http://lordievader.no-ip.org/files/utopic-oem.png19:00
lordievaderAin't that great...19:00
Riddelllordievader: I'm just trying it, I think I know what bug it is, a long standing one19:03
Riddellnew Plasma 5 images coming too, not sure why but I guess it's important19:04
Riddellowncloud package just removed from the archive too19:04
lordievaderRiddell: Ok. Seems a bit strange though that the text field is empty. As if the exception does not know what it is excepting :P19:05
Riddelllordievader: that box is ment to show a backtrace, not sure why it didn't get one19:06
Riddellbut oem installer is a strange beast19:06
lordievaderTrue that ;)19:07
Riddelllordievader: hah, you seem to have reported this bug before, bug 115453519:09
ubottubug 1154535 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Back and Continue buttons present in Oem-config" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115453519:09
lordievaderIs that the same>19:09
lordievader>=?19:09
Riddelllordievader: yeah I think so, you need to click the continue button one extra time for no obvious reason when installing19:10
Riddellelse it'll crash19:11
Riddellsee how in your screenshot Continue is still enabled, if you click it once more it becomes disabled and everything works19:11
lordievaderHmm, I'll try that.19:11
apacheloggerRiddell: not at home I am hiding :)19:11
lordievaderRiddell: Doing that gets it a bit further bit is still fails: http://lordievader.no-ip.org/files/utopic-oem2.png19:14
Riddellwibble19:14
Riddellguess oem installer is not happy19:15
lordievaderCould it be the manual partitioning that breaks the oem installer?19:15
Riddellunlikely19:16
Riddellcan you get it to start a desktop session19:16
Riddellthere will be logs in /var/log/installer I think19:16
lordievaderDesktop session, not sure. But I can get the logs.19:17
Riddellfile a bug with the stuff in /var/log/installer and /var/log/syslog19:17
soeeThis images and latest updates are RC ?19:25
Riddell20141022.1 images are the candidates for release19:26
Riddell** proofreaders needed, added step 4) and 5) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu19:26
soeeRiddell: if it is RC whan in grub we have Ubuntu and in system settings About system also ubuntu and link to ubuntus page ?19:27
Riddellsoee: grub is known, that caused problems and apachelogger removed it19:29
Riddellsoee: plasma 4 or 5?19:29
soeeRiddell: 519:29
RiddellI know plasma 5 doesn't set about-data yet19:29
Riddellyeah that's known19:29
soeeah ok19:29
Riddellreport a bug if you think important https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+filebug  tag plasma519:30
lordievaderRiddell: The path /var/log/installer contains quite a number of files, do you want that I include all of them?19:31
soeeRiddell: the upgrade steps look fine19:31
Riddelllordievader: please19:33
soeehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/138441519:37
ubottuUbuntu bug 1384415 in Kubuntu PPA "Kubuntu 14.10 with Plasma 5 installed uses wrong About data" [Undecided,New]19:37
soeeBluesKaj: ping19:38
BluesKajpong, soee19:39
Riddellthanks soee 19:39
soeeBluesKaj: can you confirm my bug and add yourself as affected ?19:39
soeeahi see Riddell already posted comment19:40
BluesKajsoee, sorry I can't, I reinstalled plasma 4 19:40
soee:)19:40
soeeBluesKaj: may i know why ?19:40
sgclarksoee: I confirmed it as I had mentioned it once before19:41
soeesgclark: thank you19:41
BluesKajnot my cuppa tea, still too many glitches, that's all I'm saying about it19:42
soeeBluesKaj: ok, i undurstand :)19:42
soee*e19:42
lordievaderRiddell: I think I uploaded everything: bug 138440619:48
ubottubug 1384406 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-installer crashes in the last step" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138440619:48
Riddellthanks lordievader 19:49
bukaiRiddell: should I mail you the modified template.php file?19:51
Riddellbukai: bonus points if you put it in a bzr branch on launchpad for me to merge in19:53
bukaiRiddell: Kubuntu crashed while I was upgrading it so I am using fedora as of now, and I am having problem with the lauchpad in fedora but still I will try. You need it by tomorrow, rght?19:56
Riddellbukai: by tonight preferably, so if you have issues with bzr then e-mail or the like is fine19:57
bukaiRiddell: what should i put as the reporting time zone?20:03
Riddellbukai: I don't know what that means20:04
RiddellUTC is easiest generally20:04
bukaiRiddell: Where are you from ? 20:06
RiddellI'm from scotland20:06
RiddellI live in Catalonia20:06
bukaiRiddell: ok, :)20:08
_Groo_guys, half my plasma 5 wallpapers are all black20:20
_Groo_can someone check is the plasma-wallpapers package isnt corrupted?20:20
soeehow many wallpapers you have ?20:31
_Groo_420:47
_Groo_but i have 8 slots, with 4 black ones20:47
_Groo_soee: how many do you have?]20:50
soee_Groo_: few custom, but there is abug in Plasma 5 where 3 are just default thumbs20:52
_Groo_soee: ahhh then it must be it20:57
_Groo_okdok then20:57
bukaiRiddell: ping21:01
Riddellhi bukai 21:01
bukaiRiddell: I have sent you the files,  please check if you got it.21:02
* Riddell looks21:02
Riddellbukai: hmm will that make it get added to the html ?21:06
sgclarkRiddell: template.php is what is used by the drupal engine to generate pages21:07
bukaiaccording to google it will21:07
Riddellsgclark: so this change will include the javascript in all pages in a sensible place? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu.org/revision/2121:08
sgclarkRiddell: yup looks right21:10
bukaisgclark: In analytics it was suggested for best result the script should be included in the body tag of the template file, the way i added it ,will it make a big difference?21:10
Riddellbukai: ok request sent off to canonical sysadmin to update kubuntu.org for that bzr branch21:11
sgclarkI don't think that it would21:11
Riddellsgclark: hows your artistic skills coming along?21:11
sgclarkbit rusty, will have something by your am though21:12
bukaiRiddell: 21:12
Riddellplasma4 images working good for me, still waiting for plasma5 images to rebuild21:12
bukaiis kubuntu.org registered in wwebmaster tools?21:13
Riddellbukai: what does that mean?21:13
bukai*web master21:14
sgclarkyou mean google webmaster?21:14
bukaiyes21:14
RiddellI don't understand21:15
sgclarkbukai: Riddell: it would have code with a very long id which I don't see. So my guess is no.21:17
sgclarkRiddell: webmaster is another set of tools by google to see statistics etc21:18
Riddellah21:18
sgclarkRiddell: you have to sign up for it, I would suggest you doing it with your email so it is always available21:18
RiddellI'm not too keen on google having details of everyone who views our website as it is21:18
* sgclark thinks you really don't have a choice21:19
Riddelland I still half expect canonical sysadmin to say no21:19
sgclarkahh21:19
Riddellbut aye, google already know all about me so get over it :)21:19
sgclarkwell I have found it useful. but alas it is entirely up to you21:19
sgclarkanalytics should really be fine21:20
bukaiRiddell, that is how you will know how many people clicked on your site which is the most clicked link and other cool stuff!21:20
Riddellsometimes I visit Harvey Nickols' website just to mess up their idea of who I am :)21:20
sgclarklol21:20
* sgclark returns to fighting with gimp21:21
Riddellyay i386 upgrade worked :)21:22
Riddellwell no sign of plasma5, I think I'll go to bed and get up at a sane hour to test that tomorrow21:23
Riddellbut anyone else is welcome to test it before then21:23
Riddellbuenos noches todo!21:24
bukaiRiddell: what should I do next?21:25

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