[12:26] <pitti> Laney: yeah, I'm quick on the retry trigger (stupid tar EOF error or the dreaded apt-get update hash sum mismatch)
[12:27] <pitti> desrt: cheers; I think we should just remove the policy entirely
[12:27] <pitti> desrt: that's what we did in the package now
[12:27] <desrt> pitti: ie: not install the file at all?
[12:31] <pitti> desrt: right; there's no real reason for it any more, as the systmed-services split is a thing of the past
[12:32] <desrt> pitti: was this a case of two packages trying to install the same file and the difference causing grief with dpkg or something?
[13:17] <GunnarHj> Hi pitti!
[13:38] <pitti> desrt: no, the files have different names (org.freedesktop.systemd-shim.conf vs o.f.systemd1.conf), they don't collide
[13:38] <pitti> hey GunnarHj, how are you?
[13:39] <pitti> desrt: we needed it in the past as systemd-services didn't ship o.f.systemd1.conf
[13:39] <GunnarHj> pitti: Fine thank; hope you are too.
[13:39] <pitti> GunnarHj: terribly tired, but ok otherwise; thanks
[13:40] <GunnarHj> pitti: Wondering why there is no ce (Chechen) language packs. We created the locale a few weeks ago.
[13:43] <pitti> DEBUG: Processing locale ce...
[13:43] <pitti> ERROR: no supported locales for known language ce
[13:43] <pitti> hmm
[13:43] <pitti> GunnarHj: oh yes, I need to sync maps/supported-locales in langpack-locales
[13:44] <GunnarHj> pitti: Ok..
[13:44] <pitti> GunnarHj: yep, got it now
[13:53] <RAOF_> desrt: Hey, about libhardware.
[13:54] <RAOF_> desrt: Are you trying to build the android platform? Because from a first check that's the only thing with a hard depend on libhardware?
[13:55] <RAOF_> desrt: By default we try to build the Android platform (that changed between 0.4 and 0.8) and don't do autodetect, so that might be your problem?
[13:56] <desrt> maybe
[13:56] <desrt> how do i turn it off?
[13:57] <RAOF_> -DMIR_PLATFORM=mesa to cmake should do it.
[13:57] <RAOF_> Or doing the equivalent in one of the cmake guis.
[14:15] <RAOF_> desrt: Any joy?
[14:16] <desrt> RAOF_: yes!
[14:16] <desrt> RAOF_: but from the tea and pastries -- not from mir
[14:16] <desrt> i'll try now and let you know :)
[14:17] <RAOF_> desrt: Is it tea and pastries time!
[14:18] <desrt> YES
[14:18] <desrt> trying the build now...
[14:18] <desrt> seems to be working
[14:20] <desrt> i have closed the bug
[14:20] <desrt> thx!\
[14:20] <desrt> now i need only to bother duflu about this usleep() issue
[14:21] <RAOF_> Are we not randomly sleeping enough?
[14:23] <desrt> one of the demo programs calls usleep()
[14:23] <desrt> which is a non-POSIXism
[14:23] <desrt> but it doesn't properly #define the right _GNU_SOURCE or whatever
[14:23] <desrt> and you use -Werror
[14:23] <desrt> so ... fail
[14:23] <desrt> meanwhile the issue with failure to open the drm device persists with 0.8
[14:24] <desrt> this may be more interesting for you to look at
[14:24] <seb128> Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/totem/+bug/997370
[14:28] <desrt> RAOF_: i suspect this is caused by a new udev or kernel version, but probably you will have to deal with this eventually....
[14:34] <desrt> RAOF_: seems to be a mismatch of drm version number
[14:37] <desrt> turns out that this is the actual failing call: ioctl(9, 0xc0106407, 0x7fffdd0d4930)    = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[14:38] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128!
[14:38] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, how are you?
[14:38] <desrt> which is the check-version ioctl on the dri device /dev/dri/card0 -- the stuff that followed was just error handling stuff
[14:38] <GunnarHj> seb128: Fine thanks, hope you are too.
[14:38] <seb128> I am, thanks!
[14:38] <GunnarHj> seb128: What has happened with libpango-1.0-0 in precise?
[14:38] <GunnarHj> https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/netid/+build/6480511
[14:40] <Laney> You specified the wrong package name
[14:40] <GunnarHj> Laney: What makes you say that? Exactly the same source builds fine in trusty and utopic.
[14:41] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pango1.0/1.30.0-0ubuntu3.1
[14:43] <GunnarHj> Laney: Hmm... Must check debian/control...
[14:46] <GunnarHj> Laney: So it seems. Thanks!
[14:46] <Laney> np
[15:12] <desrt> RAOF_: one more if you're still around
[15:13] <RAOF_> desrt: Sure
[15:13] <desrt> once i get the mir server started on a VT, how do i switch back to X?
[15:19] <RAOF_> desrt: Ctrl-Alt-F7 ?
[15:20] <RAOF_> desrt: Assuming you started Mir as root, so it has access to the input hardware :)
[15:20] <desrt> this appears not to work
[15:20] <desrt> i started it as a user that has access to .... hmm
[15:20] <desrt> the user has access to ttys dri and input
[15:20] <desrt> maybe some other thing is required for VT-switching that it lacks
[15:20] <RAOF_> Possibly?
[15:21] <desrt> bah
[15:21]  * desrt should just run it as root
[15:21] <desrt> i hate that i end up with a root-owned socket in that case
[15:21] <desrt> seems that we talked about this 6 months ago :)
[15:28] <RAOF_> desrt: Just suck it up and chown :)
[15:28] <RAOF_> (Also, yes, sucky)
[15:29] <desrt> RAOF_: i recall that there was going to be an option to fix this :)
[15:31] <RAOF_> Hm. I don't recall that :P
[15:31] <desrt> be nice.
[16:16] <Laney> yeah vaapi is bad for me
[16:16] <Laney> it breaks totem
[16:16] <Laney> libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/nvidia_drv_video.so init failed
[16:20] <Laney> seb128: install vainfo
[16:20] <Laney> and then just run the command
[16:20] <Laney> assuming you get vdpau-va-driver
[16:21] <Laney> so try this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-libav1.0/+bug/1290368/+attachment/4095344/+files/00004.MTS
[16:21]  * Laney stabs ubot5 
[18:18] <larsu> qengho: hi
[18:18] <willcooke> qengho, hihi
[18:22] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, I filed bug #1384361 if you have any comment on the issue (I mentioned to Olivier who said to file it)
[18:30] <desrt> larsu: can you jhbuild mir for me?
[18:30] <desrt> but wait!
[18:31] <desrt> http://ur1.ca/ihazy
[18:32] <desrt> ur1 predicts apple's next product line: vaporisers for weed
[18:33] <larsu> desrt: sure.
[18:33] <larsu> desrt: do I need to update the modulesets or something?
[18:33] <desrt> larsu: this is a patch against the git master version of jhbuild today
[18:34] <larsu> okay
[18:34] <desrt> larsu: i want to know what happens with examples/progressbar.c
[18:34] <desrt> the __USE_BSD in there is questionable
[18:34] <larsu> it wants a bunch of system pkgs :/
[18:34] <desrt> so?
[18:34] <desrt> apt-get build-dep mir should help :)
[18:35] <larsu> glog...
[18:43] <Sweet5hark1> qengho: ping?
[18:51] <chrisccoulson> seb128, thanks. I commented on it ;)
[18:52] <chrisccoulson> and assigned it to you :P
[18:52] <seb128> chrisccoulson, thanks
[18:52] <seb128> lol
[18:52] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I saw what you did with that naming email!
[18:52] <seb128> you troll
[18:52] <chrisccoulson> lol
[18:52] <seb128> it's not even friday yet ;-)
[18:53] <chrisccoulson> Every day is appropriate for trolling
[19:11] <Sweet5hark1> qengho: reeeping!
[19:11] <Sweet5hark1> thank God its Trollday!
[19:29] <robert_ancell> seb128, yo
[19:30] <robert_ancell> willcooke, now I know what you meant about the weird inter-terminal transfers at Dulles
[19:30] <willcooke> robert_ancell, ha!  Bad luck
[19:30] <willcooke> robert_ancell, welcome to 1980
[19:30] <robert_ancell> 80s sci-fi movie!
[19:30] <robert_ancell> I like the fins on the top of them
[20:11] <seb128> mterry, hey
[20:11] <seb128> mterry, what .qml has the pam password entry ui?
[20:12] <mterry> seb128, /usr/share/unity8/Components/*Lockscreen*
[20:12] <seb128> mterry, thanks
[20:19] <Laney> larsu: why?
[20:19] <larsu> Laney: -1 lame
[20:19] <Laney> :(
[20:19] <larsu> -1 sad
[20:19] <larsu> +2 has-feelings
[20:20] <seb128> -1 is only a desktop
[20:21] <Sweet5hark> http://fishandchipz.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/so-many-feels.gif
[20:34] <kenvandine> seb128, do you by chance have a copy of an old version of a google calendar click?
[20:36] <seb128> kenvandine, no, but popey sure has?
[20:37] <seb128> kenvandine, people.canonical.com/~alan/clicks/2014-06-04-100001/com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-googlecalendar_1.0.1_all.click
[20:37] <kenvandine> seb128, no... he trusted his mirror to btrfs
[20:37] <kenvandine> woot!
[20:37] <kenvandine> he has two mirrors!
[20:37] <seb128> or is that the current?
[20:37] <kenvandine> no
[20:37] <kenvandine> that's old
[20:37] <kenvandine> perfect
[20:38] <seb128> great
[20:38] <willcooke> happyaron, FJKong - are you free?  can you come downstairs to Las Vegas?
[20:49] <seb128> mterry, it seems to not use those files?!
[20:49] <mterry> seb128, who doesn't?
[20:50] <seb128> unity8's lock screen on desktop
[20:50] <seb128> I did vi away without seeing any result :/
[20:52] <seb128> mterry, tried to edit /usr/share/unity8/Components/PassphraseLockscreen.qml
[20:53] <mterry> seb128, ...  I don't know where else it would get a passphrase screen
[20:54] <seb128> mterry, Lockscreen.qml hits the
[20:54] <seb128> if (resetting || !root.required) {
[20:54] <seb128> return ""
[20:54] <seb128> }
[20:54] <seb128> case
[20:54] <seb128> in the Loader
[20:57] <larsu> desrt: why does jhbuild insist on building glib 2.42?