[05:09] <ashwin1331> I have a bug with laptop battery where do i get support/fix
[05:32] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I did notice the second lot of changes weren't just image changes
[06:01] <ashwin1331> Hi guys, can i get help to fix my battery issue.
[06:05]  * mgedmin is trying to test the ubuntu-gnome rc images in testdrive
[06:06] <mgedmin> the beginning is not promising: I told testdrive to use virtualbox (because can't use kvm right now because reasons) and it launches qemu
[06:06] <mgedmin> seems to be booting (after a loooong wait while staring at a black screen with a scary failure message)
[06:08] <Noskcaj> mgedmin, Is vbox installed?
[06:09] <mgedmin> yes, and currently in use by a running vagrant vm (which is why I can't use kvm)
[06:09] <mgedmin> (I assume -- the error message was "ioctl(KVM_CREATE_VM) failed: 16 Device or resource busy")
[06:09] <Noskcaj> Is it possible to close the vagrant VM and try?
[06:10] <Noskcaj> also, #ubuntu-quality would be the place to ask for testdrive problems, but everyone there is asleep currently
[06:11] <mgedmin> so far no questions, just sharing the fun :)
[06:20] <mgedmin> ok, testdrive seems to be broken to the point of unusability so I'm not sure I can help with the image testing :/
[06:20] <mgedmin> maybe I can do that manually?
[06:23] <Noskcaj> mgedmin, All testdrive really does is zsync/rsync the image, check it's md5 sum, then launch it in a VM. So it's not too much harder to manually test
[06:23] <Noskcaj> And thank you for testing
[06:39] <ashwin1331> Hi guys i need help in fixing battery bug in ubuntu-gnome
[06:39] <mgedmin> ooh, what a trap: ~/.testdriverc has a section named [testdrive-gtk], so the cli version doesn't use any of those settings!
[06:39] <mgedmin> some vi and I'm finally booting utopic in virtualbox
[06:40] <mgedmin> the boot splash screen was in pure text mode, interesting/strange
[06:41] <mgedmin> no, the graphics are borked
[06:42] <ashwin1331> can any one tell me at least where can i get help
[06:43] <Noskcaj> ashwin1331, try adding more info to the question
[06:43] <darkxst> mgedmin, I gave up using vbox, its virtual gpu is rubbish
[06:43] <Noskcaj> !patience
[06:43] <mgedmin> this is what my mouse cursor looks like: http://i.imgur.com/I98hAQH.png :D
[06:44] <darkxst> hmm seems someone re-spun our images again, suppose that was for the plymouth fix
[06:47] <ashwin1331> Noskcaj, if my battery is less than 50% and  my laptop will shutdown if I unplug changing cable. Its new laptop - Lenovo G580. We have three same laptops in our office.
[06:48] <Noskcaj> ashwin1331, Does this happen with standard ubuntu, or only ubuntu-gnome?
[06:48] <ashwin1331> I am seeing this from ubuntu 13.04 hoping that it will be fixed in next version.
[06:48] <Noskcaj> if so, ask in #ubuntu . If it also happens in a non-ubuntu OS, it's a hardware issue
[06:48] <ashwin1331> no idea, We have ubuntu gnome on 10 laptops here.
[06:49] <ashwin1331> okay, I will try on ubuntu and fedora to narrow my issue and come back. Thank you.
[06:50] <mgedmin> hm, my vm has only 1 gig of ram, will that be enough?
[06:51] <mgedmin> I see release notes saying it needs 1.5
[06:51] <mgedmin> perhaps I should restart from the beginning after some more .testdriverc editing
[06:53] <mgedmin> oh, yes, testdrive just removed my iso and is now downloading it from scratch
[06:53] <mgedmin> brilliant
[06:53] <darkxst> mgedmin, 1GB is fine for testing
[06:54]  * mgedmin made a big mistake when he decided to do some software testing before breakfast
[06:56] <mgedmin> I saw two untranslated strings in the boot menu
[06:56] <mgedmin> now I'm sure it's too late to fix them for the final iso, but maybe I can do that for 15.04
[06:56] <mgedmin> does anybody know which package contains the translations for the iso boot menu?
[06:57] <mgedmin> (this thing here: http://i.imgur.com/gSMVrYk.png)
[06:59] <darkxst> mgedmin, syslinux or isolinux
[07:02] <darkxst> although the menu may and perhaps translations may be in syslinux-themes
[07:02] <mgedmin> I just love that there's no way to search for package name in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+lang/lt
[07:03] <mgedmin> and sorting by package name sorts just the current batch
[07:03] <mgedmin> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/syslinux/+translations has no translations
[07:03] <mgedmin> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/syslinux-themes/+translations doesn't exist
[07:04] <mgedmin> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/isolinux/+translations doesn't exist
[07:04] <darkxst> syslinux-themes-ubuntu maybe
[07:04] <mgedmin> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/syslinux-themes-ubuntu/+translations has no translations
[07:04] <mgedmin> maybe syslinux's translations are not based on gettext?
[07:05] <mgedmin> pity there's no #ubuntu-translations
[07:06] <darkxst> try #ubuntu-devel, cjwatson would probably know
[07:06] <darkxst> or xnox perhaps
[07:11] <mgedmin> I think I found a bug in the keyboard selection screen: no matter which of the available Lithuanian layouts
[07:11] <mgedmin> I choose, when I type in the test box, it seems only one of them is used
[07:11] <darkxst> mgedmin, all of that stuff is shared with ubuntu and the other flavours
[07:14] <darkxst> mgedmin, you may need to ask again an hour or two, most Canonical devs won't have started the day yet
[07:14] <darkxst> oh but many of them are in washington this week, so even later
[07:14] <mgedmin> :)
[07:16] <mgedmin> so this bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/524826
[07:16] <mgedmin> and hey look who commented on it FOUR YEARS AGO?  *me*
[07:24] <mgedmin> "Stopping SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon" is an interesting message to see in the installer
[07:25] <mgedmin> hm, it doesn't seem to be rebooting successfully
[07:27] <mgedmin> if I were to file a "fails to reboot after installing" bug, where should I file it?
[07:27] <mgedmin> it's probably not ubiquity's fault
[07:28] <mgedmin> could be kernel, could be upstart
[07:28] <mgedmin> is there any way to trigger alt-sysrq in qemu?  showTasks would be interesting to see
[07:32] <darkxst> mgedmin, just hit enter
[07:32] <mgedmin> nothing happens
[07:32] <darkxst> it will then reboot, well should
[07:32] <mgedmin> the only thing that works is Alt-Fn for switching between vt's
[07:33] <mgedmin> I can do ctrl-alt-2 to get the qemu console and system_reset
[07:33] <mgedmin> um
[07:33] <mgedmin> now the entire qemu is frozen and no longer lets me ctrl-alt-1/2/3 or type in the console
[07:34] <mgedmin> the cursor's still blinking
[07:36] <mgedmin> ok, I can run qemu again by hand with the same disk image and see if the install succeeded
[07:36] <mgedmin> can I?
[07:36] <mgedmin> $ qemu-system-x86_64 -uuid 65a27bc0-5a39-40bd-ae72-26ddbf8e9808 -m 2048 -smp 4 file=/home/mg/.cache/testdrive/img/testdrive-disk-xCcxo3.img,if=virtio,cache=writeback,index=0 -usb -usbdevice tablet -net nic,model=virtio -net user -soundhw es1370 -vga cirrus -enable-kvm
[07:36] <mgedmin> qemu-system-x86_64: -smp 4: could not open disk image file=/home/mg/.cache/testdrive/img/testdrive-disk-xCcxo3.img,if=virtio,cache=writeback,index=0: Could not open 'file=/home/mg/.cache/testdrive/img/testdrive-disk-xCcxo3.img,if=virtio,cache=writeback,index=0': No such file or directory
[07:37] <mgedmin> oops, deleted -drive accidentally while deleting -cdrom
[07:37] <darkxst> hmm maybe testdrive uses a temporary vm
[07:37] <mgedmin> yay it boots!
[07:39] <mgedmin> it doesn't appear to be using my keyboard layout correctly
[07:39] <mgedmin> and there seems to be some video corruption
[07:40] <mgedmin> in the window title: http://i.imgur.com/6RUDZBl.png
[07:41] <darkxst> mgedmin, qemu uses llvm software rendering, so should work but isnt really comparable to a real install where you have openGL
[07:43] <mgedmin> iow it's a known bug and I needn't bother reporting, yes?
[07:44] <mgedmin> right, so http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds/82403/testcases/1300/results is probably failed because of that 'didn't reboot' thing
[08:02] <mgedmin> do I need to create a hardware profile I was testing in a VM?
[08:06] <mgedmin> ok, what?
[08:06] <mgedmin> I submitted my testcase result, with links to bugs and everything
[08:06] <mgedmin> it told me "every failed testcase needs to have a bug blah blah"
[08:07] <mgedmin> and now it doesn't show my report and it doesn't show the form for submitting a test report
[08:08] <darkxst> I don't bother with hardware profile, just put in comments 'tested in qemu VM' or whatever
[08:09] <mgedmin> wait a second, build 82403 got archived already
[08:09] <mgedmin> and the current one is 82441
[08:09] <darkxst> hardware profile is only relevent when running reall hardware
[08:09] <mgedmin> do I test again?
[08:10] <darkxst> mgedmin, they got re-spun about an hour ago
[08:10] <darkxst> probably ok though, not much would have changed since this mornings image
[08:11] <mgedmin> on 2nd boot my keyboard layout is correct
[08:11] <mgedmin> also rebooting works
[08:15] <mgedmin> hey, maybe that's why my .iso got clobbered -- new images showed up, rsync ran
[08:15] <mgedmin> I panicked (why is it rsyncing, it had the full is already), hit ^c, and rsync (or testdrive) deleted the half-rsynced .iso
[08:16] <mgedmin> anyway I relaunch testdrive and rsync is instant
[08:16] <mgedmin> so I was testing the newest image already
[08:16] <mgedmin> just tried to submit my report in the wrong place
[08:19] <mgedmin> this is fun, I'll test again -- with lvm and encryption
[08:21] <mgedmin> oops out of disk space
[08:22] <mgedmin> whew, deleted the old .img in time
[08:22] <mgedmin> (please gently tell me if I'm too chatty)
[08:36] <mgedmin> whoops, not in time
[08:36] <mgedmin> my qemu got stopped and I didn't notice
[08:36] <mgedmin> ctrl-alt-2, cont, enter, ctrl-alt-1 and it's continuing
[08:52] <mgedmin> ok, reboot got stuck again
[09:44] <darkxst> mgedmin, really just try vmware ;)
[09:45] <darkxst> you can get the tech preview free, though it will expire once they release VMware 11
[09:48] <darkxst> https://communities.vmware.com/community/vmtn/workstation/vmware-workstation-technology-preview-2014
 ricotz, hi, sjoerd gave me the ok to host packaging branches on alioth
 still waiting on steve to make a script to automate uploading initial branches, but that may never happen, so will just whip up something quick
[10:04] <darkxst> branches will be at git.debian.org/pkg-gnome/ubuntu/
[10:07] <l3on> darkxst, awesome!
[10:11] <ricotz> darkxst, hi, nice! thanks for the notice
[10:13] <darkxst> will try get stuff in ubuntu GNOME packageset (gdm, mutter, shell etc) up over the weekend
[10:15] <darkxst> but longer term would be good to get everything on ppa's with ubuntu delta up there
[10:17] <darkxst> ricotz, also I test debian g-i, it works fine at run-time for everything
[10:17] <darkxst> (i.e. multiarch gir's)
[10:18] <darkxst> the fallout in debian was purely build related, and I think now that is mostly fixed
[10:18] <l3on> I asked yesterday .. no answer, I'm asking again ..  what you think about http://paste.ubuntu.com/8614197/plain/ ?
[10:19] <darkxst> l3on, I think use a pastie that doesnt require login to view!
[10:19] <l3on> mmm .. ah reight .. p.u.c requires lp login
[10:19] <l3on> *right
[10:20] <darkxst> yeh its stupid and a pain!
[10:20] <l3on> then remove /plain -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8614197/
[10:20] <ricotz> darkxst, alright
[10:20] <ricotz> darkxst, btw, it is nice to get things updated, but it would be better to actually build those in the ppa rather than binary copy them to make use of dbgsyms
[10:21] <ricotz> l3on, or use paste.debian.net ;)
[10:21] <l3on> :P
[10:23] <darkxst> ricotz, right and crap, I probably called you out on that in the past ;(
[10:33] <mgedmin> re: vmware -- I try to avoid non-free software when free alternatives exist
[10:34] <l3on> tada -> http://people.ubuntu.com/~l3on/tmp/ubuntu-themes_gtk-3.14.png :)
[10:36] <mgedmin> wheee can't enter my cryptsetup passphrase
[10:36] <mgedmin> keyboard layout issue?
[10:37] <mgedmin> sort of, yes
[10:37] <mgedmin> managed it
[10:42] <mgedmin> whee graphics
[10:42] <darkxst> l3on, can you ping me tomorrrow and I will take a look
[10:42] <l3on> darkxst, ok
[10:42] <darkxst> mgedmin, vmware has a fully open-source graphics stack and it works really well
[10:43] <mgedmin> yeah, because https://twitter.com/mgedmin/status/524873517834440704 is ridiculous
[10:44] <darkxst> mgedmin, there is a reason vmware drivers are in mainline kernel and vbox is barred from it!
[10:44] <mgedmin> I'm using kvm, not vbox
[10:45] <mgedmin> (my attempts with vbox failed even more miserably, so I shut down all my vagrant vms and switched to kvm)
[10:45] <darkxst> mgedmin, kvm, qemu etc, all use software fallbacks
[10:45] <darkxst> they don't have gl drivers
[10:46] <mgedmin> llvmpipe is surprisingly fast
[10:49] <darkxst> mgedmin, it works well enough on multi-core real hardware, but I see no end of artificats in VM's with it
[10:50] <mgedmin> isn't that strange?
[10:51] <darkxst> not really
[10:55] <mgedmin> tried gnome-boxes instead of testdrive just for fun, it segfaulted: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1384170
[11:04] <darkxst> yeh boxes has been problematic on ubuntu most of the time
[15:26] <c0mrad3> hi
[15:26] <c0mrad3> any redshift users
[15:29] <c0mrad3> no one ??
[16:01] <jnxd> hi
[16:16] <jnxd> I was trying to obtain the artwork creation kit from the wiki page, but I'm getting a 503 error. Could someone point me to alternate download links or alternate kits? thanks in advance
[21:55] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Should we sync appstream-glib to PPA?
[21:55] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I think it needs packagekit update?
[21:56] <darkxst> and that seems risky
[21:56] <Noskcaj> ok
[22:06] <darkxst> we may backport it, when/if it lands in vivid
[23:43] <darkxst> Noskcaj, actually its gnome-software that depends on packagekit update
[23:43] <darkxst> and that is probably on the only component using appstream-glib right now
[23:45] <Noskcaj> vinagre uses it
[23:45] <Noskcaj> or at least wants to, debian had a revert
[23:45] <darkxst> well there is no metadata yet anyway
[23:46] <darkxst> I have no idea when Ubuntu will actually get dep11 support