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mappsHI ALL04:32
shaunoalready?  that must mean it's time for work :(04:32
mappsheh04:33
mappsi just finished..but im gmt+1 now.so guess u have an extra hour?04:33
mapps:P04:33
shaunolol, no you're not.  you're gmt+204:35
mappsits 638 here04:36
shaunoexactly.  go to google and type in 'time gmt'.  it'll tell you it's 4:36 gmt ;)04:37
mappshm04:37
mappswell uk +104:37
shauno:)04:38
shaunoI know, I'm a pedant.  I just keep having this lecture at work because people keep writing the wrong timezones in logs :/04:38
mapps:D04:39
shaunogmt doesn't move for summer.  that's why we call it bst instead.  so in winter, uk is gmt, euro is cet (+1).  in summer uk is bst (gmt+1), euro is cest (gmt+2)04:39
mappsyea04:40
shaunothis is my favourite rant at work, because how are we meant to explain it to the yanks if we keep forgetting our own timezone :/04:41
shaunooh ew.  I hate when the clothes you were planning on wearing aren't dry yet :(04:43
mappsheh arent logs basedon server time?04:43
shaunoservers are always gmt.  else people get hurt ;)04:43
shauno(a teaspoon is good for this.  a bop on the head from a teaspoon hurts more than you'd think, but HR won't take it seriously)04:44
mappslol04:46
mappshm04:49
mappsfeels faster using the net via my vpn04:50
shaunosee, this is why I rant about timezones.  I've got an email telling me I have a conf call at 08:00 GDT.  what the hell is GDT.  why the hell do they insist on inventing new timezones, we've got enough already05:12
mappsgerman daytime05:23
mapps;05:23
mapps;[05:23
shaunoheh05:23
mapps1 episode of the league then bed:)05:29
MooDoomorning all06:58
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zmoylan-pidon't you feel happier to know that the right people are assigned to a job. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2802349/baroness-lords-tech-panel-left-bamboozled-google-peer-fire-admitting-knew-internet-giant-s-maps-feature.html08:37
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:52
zmoylan-pimorning mammals08:56
brobostigonmorning zmoylan-pi08:56
zmoylan-piall well brobostigon?08:56
brobostigonrunny nose, eczema could be better, otherwise fine, and you?08:59
zmoylan-piwonky hip, 4 hours sleep, a mountain of tasks to do09:00
zmoylan-pican't complain :-)09:00
brobostigon:(09:00
brobostigoni know that feeling, i broke my hip almost 4 years ago now, diagnosed with osteoporosis.09:01
zmoylan-pii got an artifical one 2 years ago and haven't bounced back yet09:01
brobostigonsimilerly here, last time they did a dexa scan on it, my bone density had increased 2%, so still just the metal work keeping it together.09:02
brobostigonsorry to hear, zmoylan-pi09:02
foobarryzmoylan-pi: i didn't realise it took so long to adapt09:03
zmoylan-piit happens, some people are grand and some not so grand.  they can only install 2 artifical hips in each leg so if it's not 100% you have to deal with it as long as possible till they install the second and last one seemingly09:04
zmoylan-piupgrades... what can you do? :-)09:05
foobarrymy mum waiting for one atm09:05
zmoylan-pifingers crossed her wait is a short one09:06
zmoylan-pimuch less pain afterwards, that's for sure09:06
brobostigoni think the only bit of me that works, is my brain, maybe i should invent the cyberman, a working body to hold my brain.09:07
zmoylan-piwouldn't you prefer a simple life of dignity and be a head in a jar like futurama? :-)09:08
foobarrymy talktalk line is down at home :(09:09
brobostigonnah, i think my gf might complain, i would need a body to go to the pub with her, and hold her, those things.09:09
foobarryany talktalk users know how to get help?09:10
foobarrythe website is afail09:10
brobostigonformerly, yes.09:10
zmoylan-pishe could put her handbag on top of your jar and you would technically be holding it09:10
brobostigongood point zmoylan-pi09:10
TwistedLucidityzmoylan-pi: No physio/exercises/something that can help the hip? FWIW - I know physio really translates into "agongy"10:00
zmoylan-pii do exercises and try for a nice 1 hour walk a day.  and some days it's ok but slow and other days not so pleasent10:02
TwistedLucidityI can imagine. Not that I've had a hip replace, just two rounds of knee surgery. Didn't do *that much* to fix it, but buggered me up for nearly a year. :-S10:03
awilkinsWho was the Airfix model junkie?10:07
Seeker`awilkins: someone sniffing airfix glue / paint?10:09
awilkinsSomeone in here likes Airfix models10:09
awilkinsMy GF has a few in her back room she wants to get shot of10:09
awilkinsI have an array of pictures of them10:11
diploI have a friend who is, can't think that I've spoke about it here though10:12
diploHe's in a few clubs etc, if you want to link to them I can ask if he is interested10:12
shaunoI believe foobarry in here10:13
awilkinsfoobarry : Airfix-ping?10:35
awilkinsLink to the models for anyone who cares : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/abasboi5ftinvrt/AABPGELP2dYYsbwB-0unuwkKa?dl=010:36
awilkinsThe boxes are a bit dusty and foxed but they are all sealed in cling10:36
zmoylan-pimaybe you have to say foobarry 3 times? :-)10:37
shaunoI'm not sure that's safe10:39
shaunooh those cars look purdy though10:40
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Azelphurwow, gnome-screensaver is nice and secure these days11:34
Azelphurthe lock screen only locks :0, I can quite happily use my computer as normal while it is locked11:35
* Azelphur facepalms11:35
shaunonotsureifserious.jpg11:35
directhexhe's serious. lcking the screen is actually a hard problem11:36
directhexthe "right" answer is the locking must be handled by the compositor, as is the case for Unity11:36
directhexbut, e.g., open a menu (e.g. click File in your IRC client). now wait. the screensaver will never start11:36
Azelphurlol11:37
Azelphurhttps://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=1d1176deee2427e976e8262e24604259 functional lockscreen is functional.11:37
zmoylan-pii haven't used a screen saver since... ever i think11:37
zmoylan-pii always turn the flippin things off as they annoy me11:37
AzelphurAnything else I can use? xscreensaver works but it's very old...11:38
Azelphurshame really I wanted to get pidgin-awayonlock but can't without gnome-screensaver I think11:41
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zmoylan-pihack the planet \o/12:37
zmoylan-piwhoops, wrong channel12:39
brobostigon:)12:40
* zmoylan-pi goes back to working on that script...12:40
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directhexthey're trashing our rights, man!12:43
nigelbAzelphur: the thing about old software is that it mostly works.12:44
nigelbwithout annoying new features :P12:44
nigelb(a board member at a company I work todl me that)12:44
foobarryawilkins: hello12:44
awilkinsfoobarry, Hiya12:45
foobarryjust looking at your gf stash12:45
foobarryare you gonna build some?12:45
awilkinsfoobarry, Not planning on it12:46
awilkinsGoing to be unholy levels of busy over the next few months, I've not had an Airfix habit since I was a kid, and I don't need the extra clutter (and neither does she)12:46
foobarryare you selling them?12:50
popeymorning12:50
awilkinsfoobarry, I think she's clearing out her room and eBaying things13:00
foobarrymight be worth doing that as a job lot on gumtree13:01
awilkinsI just remembered the talk of Airfix in here and thought you might like first refusal ; I have no idea what kind of value they have or what kind of price she'd think was fair...13:01
foobarryi might be interested but agreeing price is bit awkward so maybe best if market decides price :S13:02
MooDoo:)13:33
foobarrymy cooleague says a noisy phone line and no internet could be wet wires?13:37
diplodefo a possibility foobarry13:41
awilkinsdiplo, Had terrible interference at my old digs (in the modem days) ; speeds went from abouit 48Kbit/s to less than 33 with frequent drops because of "crackling" on the line that was really noticeable on voice calls14:00
diploA friend of mine has had similar issue on dsl, BT Open Reach won't fix and argueing with ISP, break in the cable outside the house that gets wet when we have the seriously bad weather14:03
foobarrynoisy line and faint dial tone14:04
foobarrynoise is like a wind tunnel eating a packet of crisps14:04
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)14:05
MooDoomorning bigcalm14:10
mappshmm14:21
mappscant get cgiirc and apache to work right14:21
mappshttp://parrots.zapto.org/news/irc.cgi14:22
mappscgi is enabled for doc root surely thats enough?14:22
MooDoodon't you have to enable cgi?14:22
daftykinsas a module, yep most likely14:22
mappsyea14:22
mappsi did14:22
MooDooen2mod cgi isn't it14:23
mappsyep14:23
mappspi@raspberrypi /var/www $ sudo a2enmod cgi14:23
mappsYour MPM seems to be threaded. Selecting cgid instead of cgi.14:23
mappsModule cgid already enabled14:23
mappspi@raspberrypi /var/www $14:23
daftykinswas it not a2enmod14:23
mappsa2enmod:D14:23
daftykins<o/ \o>14:23
daftykinsrestarted the daemon since the configuration change of doc handling, presumably?14:23
mappsditnt think i need to do anythng else before14:23
mappsyep14:23
MooDoothen restart apache14:24
MooDoo:D14:24
mapps  <Directory /var/www/>14:24
mapps                Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews +ExecCGI14:24
mapps                AllowOverride None14:24
mapps                Order allow,deny14:24
mapps                allow from all14:24
mapps        </Directory>14:24
mappsshouldnt that cover it?14:24
mappsas the dir is /var/www/news14:24
daftykinsi don't like the placement of that +ExecCGI param14:24
daftykinsin the way it pasted14:24
mappsheh14:24
daftykinsbut for the love of Tux, mapps - pastebin site :P14:25
mappsye oops14:25
mappsisnt that enough for what i need tho14:25
daftykinswell like i say, 'cause it pasted oddly the placement might not be happy, though i guess apache would've error'd rom starting had it been an issue14:26
daftykins*from14:26
daftykinsi'd read the access logs to see if it sheds any light on what's going on14:26
mappsit wont tho14:27
mappsas no error14:27
mappsits just showing the file as text14:27
foobarryanyone seen the first episode of rainbow? its horrific14:27
mappsnah what is it14:27
foobarryhttp://i.imgur.com/qM4cZjT.jpg14:27
foobarrybungle was scary14:28
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daftykinsD:14:29
awilkinsReminds me of this sketch14:29
MooDoothe twangers episode is the best14:30
awilkins<George> {pink hippo of indeterminate gender identity} : Oh, Zippy, look, you've annoyed Bungle, he's gone out!14:30
foobarryhttp://i.imgur.com/0eaehs6.jpg14:30
foobarrythis fellow is still on cbbc14:30
awilkins<Zippy> {yellow rugby ball with rasping voice. Basically the Jeremy Clarkson of kid's TV puppets} : Well.... pour some more petrol on him then, George!14:30
ali1234that theme music tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPSzLOu1On414:34
foobarryfirst episode had a really catchy song about shapes14:34
foobarryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXTYfzOXMuA14:34
foobarrylisten and tell me you didn't actually enjoy it14:36
ali1234can anyone read this and tell me if it makes sense? https://github.com/ali1234/vhs-teletext/commit/4b6f602e9fd830f450af6b68887f3f0e2073780c14:43
shaunokinda .. no.  step 1 doesn't appear to be a step, and doesn't appear to be followed by step 2 et al?14:46
ali1234step 1 is the starting condition?14:46
ali1234i could have written "an empty guess is allocated" i suppose, would that be better?14:47
shaunoI mean before 'how it works'14:48
ali1234i'm only interested in the green bits14:48
ali1234that's a diff, parts of the file before "how it works" are not shown14:49
ali1234https://github.com/ali1234/vhs-teletext/blob/4b6f602e9fd830f450af6b68887f3f0e2073780c/README14:50
foobarryif talktalk send an engineer, will they charge me14:51
dwatkinsprobably, foobarry14:52
dwatkinsali1234: very nice write-up14:52
shaunoah.  well 'how it works' makes sense.  just the pre-amble didn't seem logical.  I see how it makes sense with a bit of context though14:52
foobarrydwatkins: unless it is a openreach problem14:53
dwatkinsfoobarry: true, but they should be able to identify that at the exchange14:53
foobarryit my cable outside house is damaged then no charge surely14:54
foobarryif*14:54
daftykinstelco handles up to the demarcation point, yep.14:54
foobarrywe'll see then :D15:06
daftykinsfoobarry: what's the scenario?15:31
foobarrynoisy line, no internet15:51
foobarryeven when removing adsl filter and plugging phone direct tthen loud hissing line15:52
foobarrysince wet and windy weather yesrday, no visible damage15:52
daftykinsnasty!15:52
foobarrygoing home now to no internets :(15:52
daftykinsd'aww15:52
daftykinsyou'll get so much more done! :D15:52
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Myrttiwould anyone happen to have clear or white plastic hose lying about, about an inch or so diameter?17:57
MyrttiI need like, um. a foot or so17:57
Myrttior would they sell it at B&Q by metre?18:00
zmoylan-pido they have a web site you can check?18:28
Myrttiit's not very intuitive18:29
daftykinssearch box? :>18:30
ali1234http://www.amazon.co.uk/PVC-Tube-25mm-Internal-Diameter/dp/B00H84SW9C/ref=sr_1_22?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1414002596&sr=1-22&keywords=clear+plastic+flexible+pipe18:30
Myrttihm, that might work.18:32
Myrttias if I'm not already sourcing everything for my wedding from Ebay, Amazon and Etsy already.18:32
daftykinswhat a hardship ;)18:32
ali1234i'm not sure if i dare ask why you need a 1 ft hose for your wedding18:33
zmoylan-pifor the gate crashers, duh :-)18:33
Myrttia handle for a bouquet18:33
ali1234so it being hollow and water tight is not a requirement?18:34
daftykinshollow for the stalks.18:34
zmoylan-pithrowing a bouquet with water in it would be fun... :-p18:35
daftykinsthat'll learn 'em18:36
daftykinsspeaking of which i got yet ANOTHER wedding invite just today18:36
daftykins*sigh*18:36
zmoylan-pibulk order toasters online and distribute accordingly :-)18:36
daftykins:D18:37
popey\o/ Toasters18:37
* popey misses his toaster18:37
ali1234popey has "toaster" on highlight18:37
zmoylan-pieach personally monogrammed toaster wedding present number x with a certificate of authenticity18:37
daftykinspopey: what happened to it?18:37
popeynothing18:38
popeyit's just far away18:38
ali1234wouldn't let you take it through the metal detectors huh?18:38
popey3675 miles away apparently18:39
popeyyeah, bastards18:39
daftykinsah yes18:39
daftykinsi could even get toast delivered to me in a hospital ICU ward, i'm sure you can source some sir :D18:39
popeyOh i can source toast18:39
czajkowskiAlanBell: popey Surrey drinks next Wednesday in Guildford if you're about18:41
czajkowskiAlanBell: can you tell the lord please18:41
daftykinswe need more alans.18:41
Myrttihollow for the Adafruit Arduino board18:43
Myrttiand battery18:44
Myrttiand leads18:44
daftykinsintercom at my friends new house - https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n039cc2e84np93/intercom.jpg?dl=018:45
bob4nk]p!top xxx18:45
bob4nk]p!tops xxx18:45
daftykinsbob4nk]p: stop that thanks18:45
ali1234!info xfwm4 utopic18:53
lubotu3xfwm4 (source: xfwm4): window manager of the Xfce project. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.11.2-0ubuntu2 (utopic), package size 388 kB, installed size 2352 kB18:54
daftykinsa wild hexy!19:00
dutchiewhat kind of encryption do i get if i choose the "encrypt my home dir" option on a 14.10 desktop install?19:06
popeydutchie: ecryptfs19:16
dutchiepopey: thx19:30
popeynp19:30
* popey switched from that to full disk encryption19:30
* DJones hacks popey and deletes his goat porn to save him the need to have encryption19:31
* popey continues to hug his Hudl219:32
dutchieyeah, think i'm going to go with that19:32
DJonespopey: Is it still pink?19:32
popeyit is19:32
popeylovely pink19:32
DJonesHave to say that my wife is impressed with her pink hudl219:33
popeyhttp://imgur.com/BDSGSom19:33
zmoylan-pihow long before you have enough tesco clubcard points to get a second hudl at same price?19:33
DJonesIts as fast as her old N7, although a bit too heavy incomparison19:33
DJonespopey:  That looks orange19:34
* brobostigon hugs his nexus7. :)19:36
DJonesMust have been taken with the ubuntu phone camera, colours not qute right :)19:36
popeylolz19:37
popeydunno what colour they call it19:37
DJonespopey: Are you ok for a pm, not urgent if you're busy19:37
popeybut it's quite pinky/orangey19:37
popeyalways19:37
zmoylan-pithe flouresecents have mucked up the sensor19:37
popeyDJones: sure19:38
mappsmadrid goatING19:38
brobostigonwas it taken with an Iphone?19:39
popeyno, thinkpad x220 camera + cheese19:40
brobostigon:)19:41
* brobostigon thinks he is getting worse at jokes.19:41
zmoylan-piwhat type of cheese? :-)19:42
brobostigonwensleydale?19:43
davmor2Look it's wot no job popey19:45
* zmoylan-pi pictures a dozen mice putting on sunglasses when you said wensleydale :-)19:46
brobostigon:)19:59
mappsgood tv day apprentice..criminal minds..modern family..the middle..stalker..the league and arrow20:11
mappsAND YAY my vpns working fine..watching bbc live:D20:15
* davmor2 shuts down mapps vpn access20:19
mapps:((20:19
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mappsworking well too..no lag20:25
mapps:D20:25
mappsthink the uploads like 40mbit tho which is obv enough20:25
* zmoylan-pi has just finished listening to every episode of welcome to our village, please invade carefully. now has to wait till next week...20:27
mappshm whats that?20:31
zmoylan-piwas this weeks comedy of the week.  quite liked it.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_To_Our_Village,_Please_Invade_Carefully20:33
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diddledan_bbc iplayer geoblock. discuss.23:54

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