[04:32] <mapps> HI ALL
[04:32] <shauno> already?  that must mean it's time for work :(
[04:33] <mapps> heh
[04:33] <mapps> i just finished..but im gmt+1 now.so guess u have an extra hour?
[04:33] <mapps> :P
[04:35] <shauno> lol, no you're not.  you're gmt+2
[04:36] <mapps> its 638 here
[04:37] <shauno> exactly.  go to google and type in 'time gmt'.  it'll tell you it's 4:36 gmt ;)
[04:37] <mapps> hm
[04:37] <mapps> well uk +1
[04:38] <shauno> :)
[04:38] <shauno> I know, I'm a pedant.  I just keep having this lecture at work because people keep writing the wrong timezones in logs :/
[04:39] <mapps> :D
[04:39] <shauno> gmt doesn't move for summer.  that's why we call it bst instead.  so in winter, uk is gmt, euro is cet (+1).  in summer uk is bst (gmt+1), euro is cest (gmt+2)
[04:40] <mapps> yea
[04:41] <shauno> this is my favourite rant at work, because how are we meant to explain it to the yanks if we keep forgetting our own timezone :/
[04:43] <shauno> oh ew.  I hate when the clothes you were planning on wearing aren't dry yet :(
[04:43] <mapps> heh arent logs basedon server time?
[04:43] <shauno> servers are always gmt.  else people get hurt ;)
[04:44] <shauno> (a teaspoon is good for this.  a bop on the head from a teaspoon hurts more than you'd think, but HR won't take it seriously)
[04:46] <mapps> lol
[04:49] <mapps> hm
[04:50] <mapps> feels faster using the net via my vpn
[05:12] <shauno> see, this is why I rant about timezones.  I've got an email telling me I have a conf call at 08:00 GDT.  what the hell is GDT.  why the hell do they insist on inventing new timezones, we've got enough already
[05:23] <mapps> german daytime
[05:23] <mapps> ;
[05:23] <mapps> ;[
[05:23] <shauno> heh
[05:29] <mapps> 1 episode of the league then bed:)
[06:58] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:37] <zmoylan-pi> don't you feel happier to know that the right people are assigned to a job. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2802349/baroness-lords-tech-panel-left-bamboozled-google-peer-fire-admitting-knew-internet-giant-s-maps-feature.html
[08:52] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:56] <zmoylan-pi> morning mammals
[08:56] <brobostigon> morning zmoylan-pi
[08:56] <zmoylan-pi> all well brobostigon?
[08:59] <brobostigon> runny nose, eczema could be better, otherwise fine, and you?
[09:00] <zmoylan-pi> wonky hip, 4 hours sleep, a mountain of tasks to do
[09:00] <zmoylan-pi> can't complain :-)
[09:00] <brobostigon> :(
[09:01] <brobostigon> i know that feeling, i broke my hip almost 4 years ago now, diagnosed with osteoporosis.
[09:01] <zmoylan-pi> i got an artifical one 2 years ago and haven't bounced back yet
[09:02] <brobostigon> similerly here, last time they did a dexa scan on it, my bone density had increased 2%, so still just the metal work keeping it together.
[09:02] <brobostigon> sorry to hear, zmoylan-pi
[09:03] <foobarry> zmoylan-pi: i didn't realise it took so long to adapt
[09:04] <zmoylan-pi> it happens, some people are grand and some not so grand.  they can only install 2 artifical hips in each leg so if it's not 100% you have to deal with it as long as possible till they install the second and last one seemingly
[09:05] <zmoylan-pi> upgrades... what can you do? :-)
[09:05] <foobarry> my mum waiting for one atm
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> fingers crossed her wait is a short one
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> much less pain afterwards, that's for sure
[09:07] <brobostigon> i think the only bit of me that works, is my brain, maybe i should invent the cyberman, a working body to hold my brain.
[09:08] <zmoylan-pi> wouldn't you prefer a simple life of dignity and be a head in a jar like futurama? :-)
[09:09] <foobarry> my talktalk line is down at home :(
[09:09] <brobostigon> nah, i think my gf might complain, i would need a body to go to the pub with her, and hold her, those things.
[09:10] <foobarry> any talktalk users know how to get help?
[09:10] <foobarry> the website is afail
[09:10] <brobostigon> formerly, yes.
[09:10] <zmoylan-pi> she could put her handbag on top of your jar and you would technically be holding it
[09:10] <brobostigon> good point zmoylan-pi
[10:00] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: No physio/exercises/something that can help the hip? FWIW - I know physio really translates into "agongy"
[10:02] <zmoylan-pi> i do exercises and try for a nice 1 hour walk a day.  and some days it's ok but slow and other days not so pleasent
[10:03] <TwistedLucidity> I can imagine. Not that I've had a hip replace, just two rounds of knee surgery. Didn't do *that much* to fix it, but buggered me up for nearly a year. :-S
[10:07] <awilkins> Who was the Airfix model junkie?
[10:09] <Seeker`> awilkins: someone sniffing airfix glue / paint?
[10:09] <awilkins> Someone in here likes Airfix models
[10:09] <awilkins> My GF has a few in her back room she wants to get shot of
[10:11] <awilkins> I have an array of pictures of them
[10:12] <diplo> I have a friend who is, can't think that I've spoke about it here though
[10:12] <diplo> He's in a few clubs etc, if you want to link to them I can ask if he is interested
[10:13] <shauno> I believe foobarry in here
[10:35] <awilkins> foobarry : Airfix-ping?
[10:36] <awilkins> Link to the models for anyone who cares : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/abasboi5ftinvrt/AABPGELP2dYYsbwB-0unuwkKa?dl=0
[10:36] <awilkins> The boxes are a bit dusty and foxed but they are all sealed in cling
[10:37] <zmoylan-pi> maybe you have to say foobarry 3 times? :-)
[10:39] <shauno> I'm not sure that's safe
[10:40] <shauno> oh those cars look purdy though
[11:34] <Azelphur> wow, gnome-screensaver is nice and secure these days
[11:35] <Azelphur> the lock screen only locks :0, I can quite happily use my computer as normal while it is locked
[11:35]  * Azelphur facepalms
[11:35] <shauno> notsureifserious.jpg
[11:36] <directhex> he's serious. lcking the screen is actually a hard problem
[11:36] <directhex> the "right" answer is the locking must be handled by the compositor, as is the case for Unity
[11:36] <directhex> but, e.g., open a menu (e.g. click File in your IRC client). now wait. the screensaver will never start
[11:37] <Azelphur> lol
[11:37] <Azelphur> https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=1d1176deee2427e976e8262e24604259 functional lockscreen is functional.
[11:37] <zmoylan-pi> i haven't used a screen saver since... ever i think
[11:37] <zmoylan-pi> i always turn the flippin things off as they annoy me
[11:38] <Azelphur> Anything else I can use? xscreensaver works but it's very old...
[11:41] <Azelphur> shame really I wanted to get pidgin-awayonlock but can't without gnome-screensaver I think
[12:37] <zmoylan-pi> hack the planet \o/
[12:39] <zmoylan-pi> whoops, wrong channel
[12:40] <brobostigon> :)
[12:40]  * zmoylan-pi goes back to working on that script...
[12:43] <directhex> they're trashing our rights, man!
[12:44] <nigelb> Azelphur: the thing about old software is that it mostly works.
[12:44] <nigelb> without annoying new features :P
[12:44] <nigelb> (a board member at a company I work todl me that)
[12:44] <foobarry> awilkins: hello
[12:45] <awilkins> foobarry, Hiya
[12:45] <foobarry> just looking at your gf stash
[12:45] <foobarry> are you gonna build some?
[12:46] <awilkins> foobarry, Not planning on it
[12:46] <awilkins> Going to be unholy levels of busy over the next few months, I've not had an Airfix habit since I was a kid, and I don't need the extra clutter (and neither does she)
[12:50] <foobarry> are you selling them?
[12:50] <popey> morning
[13:00] <awilkins> foobarry, I think she's clearing out her room and eBaying things
[13:01] <foobarry> might be worth doing that as a job lot on gumtree
[13:01] <awilkins> I just remembered the talk of Airfix in here and thought you might like first refusal ; I have no idea what kind of value they have or what kind of price she'd think was fair...
[13:02] <foobarry> i might be interested but agreeing price is bit awkward so maybe best if market decides price :S
[13:33] <MooDoo> :)
[13:37] <foobarry> my cooleague says a noisy phone line and no internet could be wet wires?
[13:41] <diplo> defo a possibility foobarry
[14:00] <awilkins> diplo, Had terrible interference at my old digs (in the modem days) ; speeds went from abouit 48Kbit/s to less than 33 with frequent drops because of "crackling" on the line that was really noticeable on voice calls
[14:03] <diplo> A friend of mine has had similar issue on dsl, BT Open Reach won't fix and argueing with ISP, break in the cable outside the house that gets wet when we have the seriously bad weather
[14:04] <foobarry> noisy line and faint dial tone
[14:04] <foobarry> noise is like a wind tunnel eating a packet of crisps
[14:05] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[14:10] <MooDoo> morning bigcalm
[14:21] <mapps> hmm
[14:21] <mapps> cant get cgiirc and apache to work right
[14:22] <mapps> http://parrots.zapto.org/news/irc.cgi
[14:22] <mapps> cgi is enabled for doc root surely thats enough?
[14:22] <MooDoo> don't you have to enable cgi?
[14:22] <daftykins> as a module, yep most likely
[14:22] <mapps> yea
[14:22] <mapps> i did
[14:23] <MooDoo> en2mod cgi isn't it
[14:23] <mapps> yep
[14:23] <mapps> pi@raspberrypi /var/www $ sudo a2enmod cgi
[14:23] <mapps> Your MPM seems to be threaded. Selecting cgid instead of cgi.
[14:23] <mapps> Module cgid already enabled
[14:23] <mapps> pi@raspberrypi /var/www $
[14:23] <daftykins> was it not a2enmod
[14:23] <mapps> a2enmod:D
[14:23] <daftykins> <o/ \o>
[14:23] <daftykins> restarted the daemon since the configuration change of doc handling, presumably?
[14:23] <mapps> ditnt think i need to do anythng else before
[14:23] <mapps> yep
[14:24] <MooDoo> then restart apache
[14:24] <MooDoo> :D
[14:24] <mapps>   <Directory /var/www/>
[14:24] <mapps>                 Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews +ExecCGI
[14:24] <mapps>                 AllowOverride None
[14:24] <mapps>                 Order allow,deny
[14:24] <mapps>                 allow from all
[14:24] <mapps>         </Directory>
[14:24] <mapps> shouldnt that cover it?
[14:24] <mapps> as the dir is /var/www/news
[14:24] <daftykins> i don't like the placement of that +ExecCGI param
[14:24] <daftykins> in the way it pasted
[14:24] <mapps> heh
[14:25] <daftykins> but for the love of Tux, mapps - pastebin site :P
[14:25] <mapps> ye oops
[14:25] <mapps> isnt that enough for what i need tho
[14:26] <daftykins> well like i say, 'cause it pasted oddly the placement might not be happy, though i guess apache would've error'd rom starting had it been an issue
[14:26] <daftykins> *from
[14:26] <daftykins> i'd read the access logs to see if it sheds any light on what's going on
[14:27] <mapps> it wont tho
[14:27] <mapps> as no error
[14:27] <mapps> its just showing the file as text
[14:27] <foobarry> anyone seen the first episode of rainbow? its horrific
[14:27] <mapps> nah what is it
[14:27] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/qM4cZjT.jpg
[14:28] <foobarry> bungle was scary
[14:29] <daftykins> D:
[14:29] <awilkins> Reminds me of this sketch
[14:30] <MooDoo> the twangers episode is the best
 {pink hippo of indeterminate gender identity} : Oh, Zippy, look, you've annoyed Bungle, he's gone out!
[14:30] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/0eaehs6.jpg
[14:30] <foobarry> this fellow is still on cbbc
 {yellow rugby ball with rasping voice. Basically the Jeremy Clarkson of kid's TV puppets} : Well.... pour some more petrol on him then, George!
[14:34] <ali1234> that theme music tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPSzLOu1On4
[14:34] <foobarry> first episode had a really catchy song about shapes
[14:34] <foobarry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXTYfzOXMuA
[14:36] <foobarry> listen and tell me you didn't actually enjoy it
[14:43] <ali1234> can anyone read this and tell me if it makes sense? https://github.com/ali1234/vhs-teletext/commit/4b6f602e9fd830f450af6b68887f3f0e2073780c
[14:46] <shauno> kinda .. no.  step 1 doesn't appear to be a step, and doesn't appear to be followed by step 2 et al?
[14:46] <ali1234> step 1 is the starting condition?
[14:47] <ali1234> i could have written "an empty guess is allocated" i suppose, would that be better?
[14:48] <shauno> I mean before 'how it works'
[14:48] <ali1234> i'm only interested in the green bits
[14:49] <ali1234> that's a diff, parts of the file before "how it works" are not shown
[14:50] <ali1234> https://github.com/ali1234/vhs-teletext/blob/4b6f602e9fd830f450af6b68887f3f0e2073780c/README
[14:51] <foobarry> if talktalk send an engineer, will they charge me
[14:52] <dwatkins> probably, foobarry
[14:52] <dwatkins> ali1234: very nice write-up
[14:52] <shauno> ah.  well 'how it works' makes sense.  just the pre-amble didn't seem logical.  I see how it makes sense with a bit of context though
[14:53] <foobarry> dwatkins: unless it is a openreach problem
[14:53] <dwatkins> foobarry: true, but they should be able to identify that at the exchange
[14:54] <foobarry> it my cable outside house is damaged then no charge surely
[14:54] <foobarry> if*
[14:54] <daftykins> telco handles up to the demarcation point, yep.
[15:06] <foobarry> we'll see then :D
[15:31] <daftykins> foobarry: what's the scenario?
[15:51] <foobarry> noisy line, no internet
[15:52] <foobarry> even when removing adsl filter and plugging phone direct tthen loud hissing line
[15:52] <foobarry> since wet and windy weather yesrday, no visible damage
[15:52] <daftykins> nasty!
[15:52] <foobarry> going home now to no internets :(
[15:52] <daftykins> d'aww
[15:52] <daftykins> you'll get so much more done! :D
[17:57] <Myrtti> would anyone happen to have clear or white plastic hose lying about, about an inch or so diameter?
[17:57] <Myrtti> I need like, um. a foot or so
[18:00] <Myrtti> or would they sell it at B&Q by metre?
[18:28] <zmoylan-pi> do they have a web site you can check?
[18:29] <Myrtti> it's not very intuitive
[18:30] <daftykins> search box? :>
[18:30] <ali1234> http://www.amazon.co.uk/PVC-Tube-25mm-Internal-Diameter/dp/B00H84SW9C/ref=sr_1_22?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1414002596&sr=1-22&keywords=clear+plastic+flexible+pipe
[18:32] <Myrtti> hm, that might work.
[18:32] <Myrtti> as if I'm not already sourcing everything for my wedding from Ebay, Amazon and Etsy already.
[18:32] <daftykins> what a hardship ;)
[18:33] <ali1234> i'm not sure if i dare ask why you need a 1 ft hose for your wedding
[18:33] <zmoylan-pi> for the gate crashers, duh :-)
[18:33] <Myrtti> a handle for a bouquet
[18:34] <ali1234> so it being hollow and water tight is not a requirement?
[18:34] <daftykins> hollow for the stalks.
[18:35] <zmoylan-pi> throwing a bouquet with water in it would be fun... :-p
[18:36] <daftykins> that'll learn 'em
[18:36] <daftykins> speaking of which i got yet ANOTHER wedding invite just today
[18:36] <daftykins> *sigh*
[18:36] <zmoylan-pi> bulk order toasters online and distribute accordingly :-)
[18:37] <daftykins> :D
[18:37] <popey> \o/ Toasters
[18:37]  * popey misses his toaster
[18:37] <ali1234> popey has "toaster" on highlight
[18:37] <zmoylan-pi> each personally monogrammed toaster wedding present number x with a certificate of authenticity
[18:37] <daftykins> popey: what happened to it?
[18:38] <popey> nothing
[18:38] <popey> it's just far away
[18:38] <ali1234> wouldn't let you take it through the metal detectors huh?
[18:39] <popey> 3675 miles away apparently
[18:39] <popey> yeah, bastards
[18:39] <daftykins> ah yes
[18:39] <daftykins> i could even get toast delivered to me in a hospital ICU ward, i'm sure you can source some sir :D
[18:39] <popey> Oh i can source toast
[18:41] <czajkowski> AlanBell: popey Surrey drinks next Wednesday in Guildford if you're about
[18:41] <czajkowski> AlanBell: can you tell the lord please
[18:41] <daftykins> we need more alans.
[18:43] <Myrtti> hollow for the Adafruit Arduino board
[18:44] <Myrtti> and battery
[18:44] <Myrtti> and leads
[18:45] <daftykins> intercom at my friends new house - https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n039cc2e84np93/intercom.jpg?dl=0
[18:45] <bob4nk]p> !top xxx
[18:45] <bob4nk]p> !tops xxx
[18:45] <daftykins> bob4nk]p: stop that thanks
[18:53] <ali1234> !info xfwm4 utopic
[19:00] <daftykins> a wild hexy!
[19:06] <dutchie> what kind of encryption do i get if i choose the "encrypt my home dir" option on a 14.10 desktop install?
[19:16] <popey> dutchie: ecryptfs
[19:30] <dutchie> popey: thx
[19:30] <popey> np
[19:30]  * popey switched from that to full disk encryption
[19:31]  * DJones hacks popey and deletes his goat porn to save him the need to have encryption
[19:32]  * popey continues to hug his Hudl2
[19:32] <dutchie> yeah, think i'm going to go with that
[19:32] <DJones> popey: Is it still pink?
[19:32] <popey> it is
[19:32] <popey> lovely pink
[19:33] <DJones> Have to say that my wife is impressed with her pink hudl2
[19:33] <popey> http://imgur.com/BDSGSom
[19:33] <zmoylan-pi> how long before you have enough tesco clubcard points to get a second hudl at same price?
[19:33] <DJones> Its as fast as her old N7, although a bit too heavy incomparison
[19:34] <DJones> popey:  That looks orange
[19:36]  * brobostigon hugs his nexus7. :)
[19:36] <DJones> Must have been taken with the ubuntu phone camera, colours not qute right :)
[19:37] <popey> lolz
[19:37] <popey> dunno what colour they call it
[19:37] <DJones> popey: Are you ok for a pm, not urgent if you're busy
[19:37] <popey> but it's quite pinky/orangey
[19:37] <popey> always
[19:37] <zmoylan-pi> the flouresecents have mucked up the sensor
[19:38] <popey> DJones: sure
[19:38] <mapps> madrid goatING
[19:39] <brobostigon> was it taken with an Iphone?
[19:40] <popey> no, thinkpad x220 camera + cheese
[19:41] <brobostigon> :)
[19:41]  * brobostigon thinks he is getting worse at jokes.
[19:42] <zmoylan-pi> what type of cheese? :-)
[19:43] <brobostigon> wensleydale?
[19:45] <davmor2> Look it's wot no job popey
[19:46]  * zmoylan-pi pictures a dozen mice putting on sunglasses when you said wensleydale :-)
[19:59] <brobostigon> :)
[20:11] <mapps> good tv day apprentice..criminal minds..modern family..the middle..stalker..the league and arrow
[20:15] <mapps> AND YAY my vpns working fine..watching bbc live:D
[20:19]  * davmor2 shuts down mapps vpn access
[20:19] <mapps> :((
[20:25] <mapps> working well too..no lag
[20:25] <mapps> :D
[20:25] <mapps> think the uploads like 40mbit tho which is obv enough
[20:27]  * zmoylan-pi has just finished listening to every episode of welcome to our village, please invade carefully.  now has to wait till next week...
[20:31] <mapps> hm whats that?
[20:33] <zmoylan-pi> was this weeks comedy of the week.  quite liked it.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_To_Our_Village,_Please_Invade_Carefully
[23:54] <diddledan_> bbc iplayer geoblock. discuss.