[00:00] <mikodo> *upgrading testing  I meant
[00:06] <Unit193> amd64 (64bit): http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds/82111/testcases/1310/results and i386 (32bit): http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds/82112/testcases/1310/results
[00:06] <Unit193> You can choose whichever you'd prefer, or have installed already.
[00:06] <mikodo> Another question. What I am downloading is http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/  Should I just then update and upgrade it, then dist-upgrade it?
[00:09] <Unit193> Testcase should say, but  apt-get dist-upgrade  won't get you to the next release,  do-release-upgrade -d  (or whatever the testcase says) will though.
[00:10] <mikodo> Oh, what the ...! Should I be upgrading from Trusty or Xubuntu +1
[00:10] <Unit193> You upgrade from trusty to utopic.
[00:11] <mikodo> Unit193, Right on the apt-get release-upgrade. Thanks, for clarification on the trusty to utopic question.
[00:12] <Unit193> Sure, though  apt-get release-upgrade  isn't a command.
[00:12] <mikodo> I will check out the proper command. Thx
[00:30] <GridCube> elfy said the net upgrades where the recommended tests to do
[00:34] <mikodo> GridCube,  Do you have a link quickly available for me to get it from. Obviously, I am new to this
[00:35] <GridCube> mikodo, for 32 bit http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds/82112/testcases/1310/results
[00:36] <mikodo> Thanks.
[00:42] <mikodo> Just as Unit193 linked. :) Following links, is really slow with everything because of Transmission download.
[00:59] <bluesabre> good evening night owls
[00:59] <Unit193> It's only 9. :P
[01:00] <bluesabre> its late-ish
[01:00] <bluesabre> ~
[01:00] <bluesabre> xnox: thanks for taking a look... good news is that I have no idea why that happens, so that won't be fixed for utopic
[01:02] <Unit193> And he had a comment about feh too.
[01:09] <bluesabre> didn't see that one
[01:11] <Unit193> /lastlog in #xubuntu
[01:17] <bluesabre> ah, cool
[02:19]  * bluesabre adds changelog to http://pad.ubuntu.com/FinalReleaseNotes
[02:46] <bluesabre> knome, ochosi, forestpiskie: added changelog... maybe it will help for highlights
[05:11] <Unit193> FWIW, LP does have the bugs feature, but it's slow as heck and can barely hold the Open Source claim.
[06:45] <dkessel> good morning
[06:45] <dkessel> we have new images ready for testing :)
[06:47] <elfy> bah
[06:59] <elfy> knome: dragging bugs to the result form \o/
[07:10] <elfy> !team | new images landed - seeing more than me on the results would make for a happy elfy - so if you've time in the next 24 hours to do one - thanks :)
[07:15] <elfy> bluesabre: thanks for changelog on pad
[07:18] <elfy> I'll try and spend some time on that today - really don't want to rush tomorrow :)
[08:25] <ochosi> morning everyone
[08:25] <ochosi> just caught up on the meeting's notes
[09:56] <ochosi> bluesabre: are you gonna be around on the upcoming weekend?
[09:57] <ochosi> that, plus, what are your thoughts on last night's settling on lp over trello?
[09:57] <bluesabre> ochosi: I'll be in Ohio Saturday, probably around on Sunday
[09:57] <ochosi> what i'd like to do is a V planning session
[09:57] <ochosi> so we can set up blueprints asap
[09:58] <knome> elfy, it works? nice
[09:58] <bluesabre> I think lp is probably for the better... trello is nice, but its harder to get a clear picture of sectioned todo/doing/done
[09:58] <bluesabre> (for each team, that is)
[09:59] <ochosi> ok, good
[09:59] <knome> updated the processes page with the important translations
[09:59] <ochosi> just wanted to know whether there were any concerns from your side
[09:59] <bluesabre> none here
[09:59] <ochosi> knome: thanks, nice!
[09:59] <bluesabre> I'd be in favor of doing a blueprints sprint on sunday
[09:59] <ochosi> ok cool
[09:59] <ochosi> let's aim for that then
[09:59] <bluesabre> alrighty
[10:00] <ochosi> could send an email to team leads about that
[10:01] <ochosi> btw, has anyone heard from micahg in the "recent" past?
[10:01] <knome> no
[10:01] <knome> at least i haven't
[10:02] <bluesabre> he added me on linkedin a few weeks ago
[10:03] <knome> huhu
[10:21] <brainwash> bluesabre: did you ping the sru team? xfce4-weather-plugin is still stuck in -proposed
[10:22] <brainwash> furthermore, are you going to backport the fix to precise?
[10:23] <bluesabre> there is not really a way to backport the fix... but we might be able to backport the new plugin.  Completely different APIs and code since precise
[10:23] <bluesabre> but yeah, I intend to
[10:24] <brainwash> "Is there an update coming for precise? A locally built package with the same patches works on my system."
[10:24] <brainwash> last comment
[10:24] <brainwash> bug 1377612
[10:25] <brainwash> wait.. maybe he isn't talking about the version in precise
[10:25] <bluesabre> yeah, the version in precise is broken
[10:25] <bluesabre> it probably has been for a very, very long time
[10:28] <bluesabre> brainwash: pinged SRU team
[10:28] <brainwash> thanks
[10:37] <knome> 6 months support left for precise.. is it worth it?
[10:37] <knome> and does it send the right signal
[12:20] <jjfrv8> should I not be seeing the new Power Manager Plugin on my panel after an upgrade?
[12:46] <ochosi> jjfrv8: no, the plugin has to be added to the panel manually
[12:46] <ochosi> those who go trusty -> utopic keep indicator-power
[12:46] <elfy> hi ochosi 
[12:46] <ochosi> hey elfy 
[12:47] <jjfrv8> ok, thanks.
[12:47] <jjfrv8> I'm going to do a clean install on my laptop tonight to see if the screen dimming thing is upgrade-related or U-related.
[12:53] <knome> ochosi, is that in the release notes?
[12:57] <ochosi> knome: might not be there yet, will add it in
[13:08] <ochosi> ok, added
[13:08] <elfy> I'll try to spend a bit of time on those later today
[13:52] <slickymasterWork> ochosi, on Sunday at what time?
[13:53] <ochosi> just during the day
[13:53] <ochosi> since we're in different timezones
[14:04] <slickymasterWork> ok, hopefully not to early in the morning. I'm not what you might call a early bird :P
[14:05] <slickymasterWork> and I have a friend's wedding on saturday
[14:11] <ochosi> sure, no, i think it'll be spread out all over the day, depending on when people pop in
[14:38] <slickymasterWork> good
[15:14] <elfy> ochosi: should be about off and on all day sunday
[15:14] <ochosi> elfy: sounds good
[15:14] <ochosi> thought some early coordination might be good, especially with dev and testing in mind
[15:15] <ochosi> so that you know which areas are going to be worked on in advance and we can set up a clearer scheule
[15:15] <ochosi> schedule
[15:15] <elfy> yep 
[15:15] <elfy> mostly what I need to do is work with *dev* so I'm able to set schedule with what might be happening
[15:16] <elfy> dkessel: I don't know if you've used trello and have an account - but I use it to deal with qa, so you're going to need to be able to use it
[15:17] <elfy> just doing a couple of hardware 64bit tests - as long as all is the same I'll be happy 
[15:25] <dkessel> elfy: hmm yup I had an account to coordinate QA stuff with balloons - I just need to recover my login then I guess ;)
[15:26] <elfy> okey doke - once you're sorted let me know the trello name and I'll add you 
[18:42] <elfy> started the web page release notes from the pad - sure it'll not be right ;) 
[18:43] <knome> huhu
[18:43]  * knome looks
[18:43] <dkessel> hey knome
[18:43] <knome> hey dkessel 
[18:44] <elfy> wasn't sure what to do with the changelog - that'll definitely want looking at 
[18:44] <knome> yeah... maybe we should just drop it from the announcement and keep in the notes
[18:44] <knome> i guess you still have it in the pad?
[18:45] <elfy> knome: yea pad is still all there 
[18:45] <elfy> might be daft - not silly :D
[18:45] <knome> ok
[18:46] <knome> do we have a release notes page on the wiki ready?
[18:47] <elfy> nope
[18:47] <knome> oki
[18:48] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu
[18:48] <knome> now we do
[18:49] <elfy> knome: agreed with changelog - just on release notes I think
[18:50] <knome> hmm, wait
[18:50] <knome> shouldn't we be pointing to the xubuntu download page
[18:50] <knome> not the cdimage server?
[18:50] <elfy> guess so 
[18:50] <elfy> I've not done anything with urls yet on either
[18:51] <GridCube> elfy, i tried to test yesterday but it failed to me :(
[18:51] <elfy> re changelog - perhaps keep removals/additions on the webpage
[18:51] <elfy> GridCube: I saw that - thanks for doing it anyway - got more than me on there now ;)
[18:52] <GridCube> P: great
[18:52] <elfy> also re changelog - keep some of it on the website - default setting changes for example
[18:53] <knome> ok, i'll back out of the website/wiki so others can poke them :)
[18:53] <knome> the wiki page is an almost straight copy of the b2 notes, so you'd might want to double-check that
[18:53] <elfy> knome: I'll not poke the website - don't know why I'd even do that lol
[18:54] <elfy> knome: I'll poke about with the wiki this evening 
[18:54] <knome> worksforme ;)
[19:37] <elfy> knome: consider that poked 
[19:39] <elfy> respins shortly ... 
[19:42] <knome> yay
[19:44] <knome> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelian_hot_pot
[19:44] <knome> today's dinner
[19:45] <knome> hmm, probably more appropriate for -offtopic, but whatever :P
[19:45] <elfy> lol
[19:45] <elfy> food is ontopic ... 
[19:48]  * drc wonders if unicorn is an aceptable substitute for pork/beef/lamb?   Then it might be ontopic.
[19:52] <drc> looks like respins are up
[19:53] <drc> This going to be a "rename" for release tomorrow?
[19:53] <dkessel> what is the record for "number of respins on last day before release"?
[20:16] <knome> so, as far as we know now, release is targeted at middayish (UTC-4)
[20:16] <knome> who's going to be around then?
[20:18] <elfy> utc -4 
[20:18] <elfy> mmm
[20:18] <knome> that converts to 16ish UTC :P
[20:18] <elfy> oh
[20:19] <elfy> right - I should be unless something odd happens
[20:20] <knome> ok, good
[20:20] <knome> i should also be around about that time
[20:20] <knome> just good to have a backup
[20:20] <elfy> yea
[20:22] <knome> and always better if both are around, so we can iron out the last bits if needed
[20:22] <elfy> yep
[20:22] <elfy> I guess bluesabre will be at work
[20:23] <elfy> not sure if ochosi will be about 
[20:24] <elfy> I'll get some smoketests done in vms for the respins - looking at what's left tomorrow am 
[20:25] <elfy> but I'm happy as long as they boot/install to mark ready
[20:40] <drc> well, weather report works...again.
[20:54] <Unit193> bluesabre, ochosi: Whichever I'm supposed to ping, https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/xfce/+packages?field.name_filter=xfda
[21:00] <Unit193> Hmm, new hamster too, do we care about that one? :P
[21:06] <genii> What... is the XFCE getting a new rodent??
[21:21] <CajunTechie> Hey folks, what is the chan for the loco teams?
[21:24] <genii> CajunTechie: I'd hazard a guess it's #ubuntu-locoteams :)
[21:25] <CajunTechie> Oh yeah, I guess that kind of makes sense, huh genii? lol Thanks!
[21:25] <genii> np
[21:50] <Unit193> genii: xfce4-hamster-plugin is some strange plugin, not sure if it's really that useful to most people. :P
[21:51] <genii> Ah, OK
[22:09] <ochosi> Unit193: thanks, copying in process